1 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My 2 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: name is Sean Coleman. Pleasure to be with you as always, Hope, 3 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: wherever are you are, wherever you are listening, you're having 4 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: a great week so far, final week of the season, 5 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: and listen. You know, the Braves are playing good baseball 6 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: and so we figured that we would get some first 7 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: hand experience and analysis when it comes to praise baseball. 8 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: And we are very thrilled to have former Brave and 9 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: major league baseball player and join retirement now Kevin Pollar 10 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: has been kind enough to join us. Kevin new member 11 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: of the Foul Territory team. Thank you so much for 12 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: your time. It's a pleasure to speak with you, sir. 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice to meet you. Yeah, it's retirement has 14 00:00:58,880 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: been great. 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: Faultriusry's been a great outlet and resource for me. 16 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 2: So I'm happy to be helping you guys out. 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yes, sir. Well, and like I say, we 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: just we really wanted to get your perspective on several things. 19 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: I know that you're you're a ten year plus major 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: league veteran. You have had plenty of success. Congrats to 21 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: you in a great career. Obviously you've had, you know 22 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: more many hats throughout your career, so just really gonna 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: value your opinion now. Obviously for those who follow Himer Territory, 24 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: Kevin was of course a part of the twenty and 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: twenty three Braves, also was drafted by alex Enthopolis back 26 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven and as a member of the Toronto 27 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: Blue Jays, for whom he spent much of his career. 28 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: And Kevin, let's go right into it. You know, I 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: know that you know now being a member of foul Territory, 30 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: you follow all the teams in Major League Baseball. You 31 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: were there in twenty twenty three when the Braves had 32 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: their historical offense, just an absolutely outstanding regular season, the 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: playoffs did not work out, and then over the past 34 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: two years it's been a bit of a struggle. When 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: you were there with that team in twenty twenty three 36 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: and you've kind of seen how things have developed over 37 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: the past few years, what really has stood out to 38 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: you is the biggest reason as to why the Braves 39 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: have not been able to return to that level of success. 40 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: Why they Yeah, I wish I had a crystal ball. 41 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 3: I mean, I think the obvious you thing you could 42 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: point to his injuries. Yeah, I mean, I know it's 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: part of sports, but they've just been hammered by injuries, 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: you know, not having Ronalds for a full season, you know, 45 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: starting a year without Schreider. You know, the list goes 46 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: on and on, Guys in the bullpen, others starting pitching. 47 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 3: This is a star league, and the Braves when I 48 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: was there, had stars and they. 49 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: Were all healthy. 50 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 3: And when you have them all in the field, it's 51 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: a you see the result of it, you know, to 52 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 3: be able to collectively have over three hundred home wins 53 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: as a team, I always forget the number. 54 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: Was it one hundred and five wins or one hundred 55 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: and three wins? 56 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: I think it was one hundred and three hundred and two. 57 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: To over one hundred wins, which is like you don't see, 58 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: you know, every year. 59 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: You don't see teams win one hundred games every year. 60 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: It was just a team full of not only really 61 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: good baseball players, but really good people. And I know, 62 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: potentially we'll go down that sort of rabbit hole with 63 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: Alex over there in. 64 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: My connection with him. 65 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: But I think even though it hasn't worked over the 66 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: last two years, I do believe that's his secret, sauce. 67 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: I think that's his secret. 68 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: You know, recipe is he values good people and he 69 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: wants that clubhouse. 70 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: He wants he wants everything to kind of fit. 71 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: He wants to know that the best player in the 72 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 3: team and the twenty sixth player are all pulling on 73 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: the same rope, that they're going to get along, that 74 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: the players that come from Latin America or other countries 75 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: are going to get along with the American players. He 76 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: believes in the sum of the hole is greater than 77 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: the you know, it's part. So he does an amazing 78 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: job of doing that. And it's kind of crazy to 79 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: be sitting here two years later from when I played 80 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: for the Braves and talking about the missing the playoffs 81 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: two consecutive years. When I was there, you know, it 82 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: felt like it was the beginning of a dynasty. And 83 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: when I was here, it felt like it was kind 84 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: of we just ran into a good team. 85 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: We ran into a great team. You know, we ran 86 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: into an. 87 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: Unbelievable, unbelievably hot Phillies team that had a ton of 88 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: momentum going to the playoffs, and you obviously want to 89 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 3: win as many games as you can in baseball. You 90 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 3: want to win a division, you want to be able 91 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: to kind of set that rotation up give everyone rest. 92 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: But what people forget we ran away with that division early. 93 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: We pretty much had that thing clinched in the middle 94 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: of August. You know, we weren't really playing meaningful baseball 95 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: down the stretch. And did that kind of catch up 96 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: to us a little bit? 97 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: Maybe? 98 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 3: Is it hard to kind of flip that switch and 99 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: get back into you know, fight or flight mode, which 100 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: we didn't really have to play with, you know, for 101 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: the last two months of the season. 102 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: You know, all that stuff kind of added. 103 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: Up, and those things definitely do add up. But I 104 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: think you hit the nail on the head. 105 00:04:58,839 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: You know. 106 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: The thing about it, Alex and Thopolis is that and 107 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: you've been with, you know, two versions of Alex when 108 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: you were in Toronto and also obviously when you were 109 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: with Atlanta. One thing that you mentioned is that he 110 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: values good people, and obviously that keeps that clubhouse dynamic 111 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: so strong. You were there in twenty twenty three, I'm 112 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: sure you stayed connected with several of the players that 113 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: were there as well, you know, keeping that part of 114 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: things going well, the clubhouse dynamic as strong as possible. 115 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: I imagine that's still the case, and that's one reason 116 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: to have faith that this team can get back on 117 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: track to be in the contender. We all hope they 118 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: could be in Braves Country. 119 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: I'll tell you, I'll maybe aside from like what I 120 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: would consider like my first born, my team's in Toronto, 121 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: because there's there's nothing like your first firstborn, you know, 122 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: my first team, my first experienced. 123 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: Going to the playoffs. 124 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 3: That team was super tight. The twenty fifteen Toronto Blue 125 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 3: Jay team even more so, even more so than the 126 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: team in twenty sixteen, which was really a lot of 127 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: the same people, but just the way everything kind of fit. 128 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: In twenty fifteen was the closest team I ever been 129 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 3: a part of until I went to Atlanta, because I 130 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 3: would say in Toronto it was it was probably about 131 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: twenty of the twenty five guys or twenty six guys 132 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 3: were super tight. 133 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: You know. 134 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: We obviously had some guys that you know, showed up 135 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: to play. They kind of did their own thing, and 136 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: that's not a problem. But when I tell you one 137 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: through twenty six were in it tight, wanted to hang out, 138 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: wanted to go play golf on off days, wanted to 139 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 3: go to team dinners, you know, wanted to spend time 140 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: with each other in their hotel rooms and hang out 141 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: away from the field. 142 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: I never been a part of anything like that. 143 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: There were just so many good people, and you think 144 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: about the kind of the leaders in that clubhouse. You know, 145 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 3: from a Matt Olson, Austin Riley, and even Marcello Zuna 146 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: is like just an amazing teammate. You know, he probably 147 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: doesn't get the same sort of respect as some of 148 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 3: these other guys, but Marcel was nothing but just a 149 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 3: wonderful teammate to me and everyone else that was there. 150 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: You know, when the. 151 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: Pitching staff had all of those guys too. 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You know that that 190 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: we we there were the clubhouse dynamic has been so awesome. 191 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: But over the years the Braves have lost a lot 192 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: of those more long tenured, well known guys Freddie Dansby, 193 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: Max Freed, Marcelo Zuna's time maybe coming to an end 194 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: with him being a free agent, and now some of 195 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: the longer tenured guides are Ozzy Alby's, Austin Riley, Sean Murphy. 196 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: Each and every one of those guys are so talented, 197 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: so important to our success, but they've had multiple years 198 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: of injuries that they're working through just from personal experience 199 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: or just being in clubhouses where guys have gone through 200 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: that where years now have not gone as they have 201 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: wanted to. What's the mindset to get back on track 202 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: and you know, really be able to get back to 203 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: what you once worries It going back to old ways. 204 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Is it changing things up? What helps you goes through 205 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: those multiple years of injuries or years not working out 206 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: as you had anticipated. 207 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean from a personal standpoint, like from a 208 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: player's perspective, you know, I felt like I did a 209 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: really good job staying healthy. 210 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: In my career. 211 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: I obviously had some injuries related to like impact and 212 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: you know, sliding. 213 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 2: Things that you really couldn't you can't really avoid. 214 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: But I would say one of my greatest strengths as 215 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: an athlete a competitors, I always continue to explore. I 216 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 3: always continue to try to grow in the off season. 217 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: I always kind of changed up, you know. And a 218 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: lot of people say, it's not broke, don't fix. But 219 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: a lot of these guys are getting broken. And my 220 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: body never really broke down. But I stopped running as fast, 221 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: I stopped moving as well. You know, I never had injuries, 222 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 3: I never pulled anything. But I always went back to 223 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: the drawing board every off season. I always tweaked my 224 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: off season workouts, my diet, you know, my workout routines. 225 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: You know, some of these guys have to honestly look 226 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: themselves in the mirrors, and it's hard when You've had 227 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 3: a ton of success and what you've done has gotten 228 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: you to this point. But sometimes you kind of have 229 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: to turn over a new leaf in this game to 230 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 3: kind of, you know, change the way your body kind 231 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: of functions, the way it operates, the way your body 232 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: trains in the off season, if you're you know, and 233 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: some I'm thinking about mrph right now, and some of 234 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: the stuff that's happened to him isn't necessarily his fault. 235 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: You know, he's had you know, the impact injuries, you know, 236 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: but he's also had the oblique injuries. So you know, 237 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: you have to kind of, like you say, you got 238 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: to kind of look yourself in the mirror. 239 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: Ronald too. 240 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: You know, Ronald's gonna have to And maybe some of 241 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 3: that isn't the off season stuff. Maybe that's some kind 242 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 3: of dialing back some of the things he does on 243 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: the field, which he did a good job of this year. 244 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: But I think as a player, you always have to 245 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: be willing to make changes. 246 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 3: You have to be willing to look yourself in the 247 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: mirror and be like, Okay, it's worked, but I am 248 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 3: getting older. You know, objectively, look at yourself, objectively, look 249 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 3: at your numbers, your career. You know, the way your 250 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 3: body feels after one hundred and sixty two games, you 251 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: know what the data is telling you, and be willing 252 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 3: to make some change. From an organizational standpoint, it would 253 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: be very interesting because I know there's a lot of 254 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: you know, uh, you know, rumored that Snip might be 255 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 3: leaving after this year. 256 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: You know what kind of direction they go is that? 257 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 3: Is that an entire overhaul of the coaching staff as 258 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: a guy like Walt Weiss, you know, maybe get a 259 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: chance to, you know, step up and take a leadership role. 260 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: You know, is is Cranny coming back? You know, I 261 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: know he had missed some time, he had some family issues. 262 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: You know, they the Braves obviously last year with the 263 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: first year, the not having success in what like eight 264 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: or nine straight years, you know, founder reason to move 265 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: from their hitting coaches. You know after one year this 266 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: is a second year. Are a lot of changes coming 267 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: you know? Or are minimal changes coming? I don't know, 268 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: you know. 269 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: I don't have a crystal ball. I'm not Alex, but 270 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,119 Speaker 2: what I would. 271 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 3: Tell you, and obviously this is a Brave show and 272 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: your viewers are Braves fans. 273 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 2: It's really hard to. 274 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: Have the level of success that the Braves have had 275 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: over the last ten years. I know it's only resulted 276 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: in one World Series, but if you look at the 277 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: history of the game, there hasn't been a back to 278 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 3: back World Series winner since the Yankees did it in 279 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: the late, you know, nineteen nineties. So it's really hard 280 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: to win in the sport. What the Braves have been 281 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: able to do and get to the postseason win division 282 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: year after year after year has a lot to do 283 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: with the person leading the charge in Alex and with 284 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 3: whatever may happen this year, with whatever changes might happen. 285 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 3: As a Braves fan, which I am, because I love 286 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: the organization, I love the people there, I still root 287 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: for them, I have the utmost trust in whatever decision 288 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: and whatever route he decides to take with this organization 289 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 3: because I know more than anything. Obviously, talent wins a 290 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: lot of games, but building a culture and building an 291 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: organization with the right people, I trust no one else 292 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: more in this game than Alex. 293 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: That's very reassuring to hear because it's a great segue 294 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: into into my next question. You know, this is a 295 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: pivotal off season, right It's the first off season, you know, 296 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: in which Alex really is coming from not making the playoffs. 297 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: What he had hoped would be the outcome that was 298 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: not there. So do you you know one thing in 299 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: Toronto that Alex was kind of known for. He would 300 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: make those those gutsy trades. He would go out and 301 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: get those big contracts or those big guys. But he's 302 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: also a very loyal general manager. He loves his guys, 303 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: you I know more than most probably know that first hand. 304 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: Just do you think that some type of shakeup makes 305 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: sense for this Braves team. I'm not looking to get anything, 306 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, just you know, you know, off the wall, 307 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: just you know, say something that it's going to turn heads. 308 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: But from your personal experience, do you think that it 309 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: makes sense for him to do a move like that 310 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: or to trust that internal development, slash players getting back 311 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: to their old ways is going to be the best 312 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: route for success. 313 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: I think I think a combination of all of them 314 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: is kind of the answer. But Alex is known to 315 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: be kind of the person that hides back in the 316 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 3: weeds and then makes these deals where. 317 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: You know when sees him coming. 318 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you think about the Chris Sale deal he 319 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: made two years ago. People don't even know Chris Dale 320 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: was available. 321 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: You know, that's just kind of Alex. How Alex works. 322 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: He operates in the dark, so you know, as much 323 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: as he operates in the dark in terms of stuff 324 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: like that, when it comes to like trade dead trade 325 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: deadline acquisitions, he does a really good job of And 326 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: not to say that the player, like myself or any 327 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: player in that clubhouse, has the ultimate say if you're 328 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: bringing him or operinging him, but he does a really 329 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: good job with his guy. You know, think Austin Riley, 330 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: Ozzy Alby's Matt Olson. If he's thinking about acquiring someone 331 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: that you know is rumored to be acquired, he's gonna 332 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: do his homework himself. 333 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: He's gonna make his phone calls. 334 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: But he's also gonna ask the players, what do you 335 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: know about this guy? I know you played with him 336 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: somewhere in the minor leagues where you played with him 337 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: in Oakland, Like, he really does trust the opinion of 338 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: his players because he wants to protect the Braves Brands 339 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: so much, and he wants to make sure that everyone 340 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: fits when they come into that clubhouse, don't I don't 341 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: know if he would care me sharing this story, but 342 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: this is dating back to twenty sixteen when Alex got 343 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: let go from the Toronto Blue Jays after having those 344 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: kind of two magical runs, and you know, there is 345 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: front office turnover, you know, you know, Rogers made some 346 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: decisions to move on. But I'll never forget getting a 347 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: phone call from Alex in the winter of twenty sixteen 348 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 3: basically just thanking me. And it wasn't he didn't just 349 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: call me. He called a lot of those core guys 350 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: from those teams and just thanked them, you know, for 351 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 3: the success that we had, but also the growth that 352 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: he had as a general manager. And a big thing 353 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 3: he talked about is I always used to get caught 354 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: up on the back of the baseball card. It was 355 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 3: all about numbers for me. What I learned through my 356 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: experience with you guys through some trial and air was 357 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: exactly what I was talking about. You obviously need talent, 358 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: but you need the right talent. We need to bring 359 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 3: the right people. So he learned that he had to 360 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: make some tough decisions with some ten yured guys in 361 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: Toronto sort kind of towards the beginning of my career 362 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 3: when I wasn't even established, but guys that were you know, 363 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 3: household names in Toronto he had to cut the cord 364 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: with because he didn't feel like they were the right pieces, 365 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 3: you know. So moving forward, they definitely have the right 366 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 3: pieces in place, but I would expect them to continue. 367 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 2: To build on what they have there. You know, there may. 368 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: Be some shakeups, you know, anytime you go. And what 369 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 3: I do know about Alex is there's not a lot 370 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: of patients. There's patients for someone like Drake Baldwin who 371 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 3: they're gonna allow to develop in the minor leagues, and 372 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: when it's his time to come up, he's gonna allow 373 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: him to come up. What he is not patient with 374 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 3: is he's not going through a rebuild. He is going 375 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: to He is going to do everything in his power 376 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 3: this offseason to build a sustainable winner, not only for 377 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 3: next year, but for the next couple of years. 378 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: I would say at least through. 379 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 3: You know Olsin and Riley's contract or, Michael Harris's contracts. 380 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: You know a lot of people, I hear a lot 381 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: of things talk. 382 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: I hear a lot of rumors talking about maybe the 383 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 3: complacency when you sign a bunch of these guys up 384 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: and you have, you know, nine guys under contract, are 385 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 3: they less hungry to go out there and perform every day. 386 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: Coming from a player's perspective, someone who never got that payday, yes, 387 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: I was always hungry to continue to go out and 388 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: fight for my life every single day. 389 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: But I can't speak on the other side of it. 390 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 3: But I what I would tell you now that I'm retired, 391 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 3: is if I was fortunate enough to have gotten that payday, 392 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: I think I could have gone out there and played. 393 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: A little bit more free. 394 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 3: The struggles wouldn't have kind of affected, you know, my 395 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: mindset as much anymore. 396 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: There would have been a level of comfort. 397 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 3: There would have been a little bit more comfort to 398 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: go out there and not worry about my statistics, but 399 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: doing whatever I had to do every. 400 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 2: Single day to help that team win. 401 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: And knowing the guys that they have signed up for 402 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: those long term deals, they're exactly those type of guys. 403 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: The struggles aren't gonna affect them as much because they 404 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 3: know that their family is taken care of. Their individual 405 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 3: numbers aren't gonna factor in as much what they're trying 406 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: to do every single days. They're going to go out 407 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: there and try to help their team win. You know, 408 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 3: perfect example, as I know Olsen, you know, last year 409 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: didn't have as great of a year as he did 410 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 3: obviously coming up the historic year with the fifty plus 411 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 3: home runs, the one hundred and thirty RBIs had a. 412 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 2: Little bit of a down year. 413 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 3: It's easy for him to go out there and be 414 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: complacent after the bad year he had last year, and 415 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 3: you see him going off this year, you know, being 416 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: an All Star again, being a top five first baseman. 417 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 3: That just speaks to the type of person Matt Olsen is. 418 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 3: Because you know me or you were secure in the bag, 419 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: it's easy to kind of just you know, downshift a 420 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: little bit and just go into cruise control. 421 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: Not those guys in the clubhouse. 422 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 3: And you're speaking another one of those guys, Riley, you know, 423 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: just the unfortunate injury plagued year. He's a guy you 424 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: know that I'll personally reach out to and offer my 425 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: kind of guidance and advice on. But he's another guy 426 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: who just objectively has to kind of look in the 427 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: mirror too and say, you know, getting hit by a 428 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 3: pitch is kind of out of his control, right, But 429 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: some of the other injuries that happen. It just evolving 430 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: and changing and and and going out and you know, 431 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 3: looking for the best people in those areas of training 432 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 3: and medical and just tweaking your off season workout to 433 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 3: to to to just try to be on the field 434 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: every single day because he's so damn good when he's 435 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: on the field. He's a top three third basement in 436 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 3: the game. It's just about staying healthy. And you know, 437 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: my relationship with him goes beyond you know, the year 438 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 3: that we played with you know, we we formed a 439 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 3: real friendship and brotherhood. And like I said, when the 440 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: season's over, I'll pick up the phone and call him 441 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 3: and just hear what he has to say, and then 442 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 3: I'll just kind of encourage him to go out and 443 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: explore those things because the game is not only the Braves, 444 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 3: but the game of baseball is in a much better 445 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 3: place when he's on the field. And I look forward to, 446 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: you know, getting a text on my phone and the 447 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: lineups posting and seeing his name in it, and and 448 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,120 Speaker 3: me being able to tune in and watch him play. 449 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 4: Ftfam, it's still time for you to check out what 450 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: bathing suit you're wearing and why it's not fair Harbor. 451 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 4: Can we get a little show and tell from Eric Krats? Nice? 452 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 5: I mean Unfortunately, you can't even see all the little intricacies. 453 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 5: We got sharks, we got patterns, we got waves, we 454 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 5: got sailboats. Oh, and they feel super buttery. 455 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: On your skin. 456 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 4: Can you show us the liner so people can understand 457 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 4: how it's different, because I've actually been taking it up. 458 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 4: I was different vacation. 459 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 5: I got the unique liner too, I got the I 460 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 5: got the baby Blue John something about it. I don't 461 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 5: know it like it pops. 462 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: Head to Fairharbor Clothing dot com slash foul twenty and 463 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 4: use code foul twenty foul two zero for twenty percent 464 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 4: off your order. Once again, that's Fair h A R 465 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 4: B O R Clothing dot com backslash foul twenty for 466 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 4: twenty percent off. Make sure you use that promo code 467 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 4: foul twenty so they know FT sent yet. 468 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: I know so many of us are looking forward to 469 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: that as well. Kevin Pullar here with us. You know, 470 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: former MLB player had an awesome career member of the 471 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three Braves. Who's been so kind to join us. Kevin, 472 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: just a few more questions with you. One thing I've 473 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: always wondered is the Braves have had good success yourself 474 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: as well as many others who have joined the team 475 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: for maybe a year or two, and when they come 476 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 1: to the Braves they have success at the level that 477 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: they did not maybe have in previous places. 478 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 2: I know that you. 479 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: Speak to the camaraderie and just the awesome people. They're 480 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: the awesome people presence that sets the Braves team apart. 481 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: Is there anything organizationally as far as their approach towards 482 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: you as a player that stands out offensively defensively? Is 483 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: there anything that separates them, especially you haven't been a 484 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 1: part of so many organizations, Anything that really stands out 485 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: about them that that's for the player on the field. 486 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think like in terms of the x's 487 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: and o's, but I think the Braves do a really 488 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: good job of when they approach you in the offseason, 489 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: if you're a minor league free agent or a free 490 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: agent trying to kind of bounce back, they like you 491 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: who you are. 492 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 2: They liked the type of player. They know exactly who 493 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: they're getting. 494 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: I mean, at least with me, they knew, and obviously 495 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: my relationship with Alex had a lot to do with that. 496 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 3: But it wasn't about me being anything that I wasn't 497 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: or couldn't be you know, it was about just being 498 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 3: me and being my authentic self. And the guys just 499 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 3: make it so easy for you to come in and 500 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: be your authentic self. And obviously, you know, when I 501 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 3: went in there, you know, I had you know, I 502 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: think I was on my eight I was in my 503 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: eighth year or ninth year. You know, I was closing 504 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 3: it on ten years. I already had a reputation in 505 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: the game, and I learned that from going from team 506 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: to team. Obviously, the first time getting traded it was 507 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 3: really tough. You know, the second or third team was 508 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 3: also a little bit more difficult. 509 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 2: But when you kind of. 510 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: Have a track record and you're an established person in 511 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 3: this game, I found it really easy for me to 512 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: just come and be myself. And I see, the Braves 513 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: were very welcoming, inspiring, encouraging. It was just easy for 514 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: me to be myself. And that came from not only 515 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 3: Alex the players, but Snitt and the coaching staff all 516 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: the way down. They're like, we know who you are, 517 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: you know who you are as a player, Just be 518 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: that guy and that's it, and that gives you comfort. 519 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: And obviously, you know, in terms of the ex as 520 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 2: the nose. It wasn't so. 521 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: Much a really in my opinion, a really good organization 522 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 3: isn't necessarily getting the x's and knows from the hitting guys. 523 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: You're getting it from your peers. 524 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: You know, the braves are really good at I could 525 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 3: go in a cage with Austin Riley or Ozuna ended 526 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 3: up being kind of my guy that I would spend 527 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 3: a lot of time with in the cage because him 528 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 3: being a DH maybing a part time player. You know, 529 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 3: we found time during the game, you know, when he 530 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: was getting ready and I would kind of mix in 531 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 3: when I was pinch hitting. I could sit on the 532 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 3: bench and kind of talk approach with him. But you know, 533 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 3: your best hitting coaches are your peers, and I think 534 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: that's why I think a lot of guys that maybe 535 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: have underperformed, or guys like me kind of on their 536 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: last leg and their career kind of go in and 537 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 3: have good years. Is you're surrounded by great guys and 538 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 3: you it's easy for hitting coach to kind of objectively 539 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: give you kind of advice and analytically and motion capture, 540 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 3: but being able to talk to a guy who's also 541 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: standing in that box with you is so invaluable. 542 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 2: Guys that have struggled, guys that have had success. 543 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: You know, when you're a right handed pitcher and you're 544 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 3: facing a lefty and you're talking to other right handed 545 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 3: hitters in the lineup, there's no replacement for that. And 546 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 3: you would hope that that's how it is across the board, 547 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 3: but it's not everywhere I've been. And that's just another 548 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 3: example of why the Braves are able to bring in 549 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: guys like me and have success, and why collectively they're 550 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 3: able to have success for such a long period of time. 551 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: One last thing I would love to get your perspectable 552 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: and is a big factor and why they've had so 553 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: much success besides Alex and Thopless. Of course, that's manager 554 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: Brian Snicker. You know, the future to be determined. You know, 555 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: there could be a possibility that this may be, you know, 556 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: the end of his career, and if it is, it's 557 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: been a wonderful career with the Brakes. But also then 558 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: bringing back Charlie Morton Kevin to know that you know 559 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: Charlie from the game as well also being teammates in 560 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: twenty three. Just any perspective that you can give on 561 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: those two if this is to be it. 562 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: For their careers. 563 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: Any perspective, any fun stories is what could be their 564 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: final weekend together. And maybe in baseball in general. 565 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Snick just automatically, you know, when you're 566 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: a baseball lifer, you spent your whole time an organization. 567 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: You came up in a time when. 568 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: Things were ugly, and he was kind of just able 569 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 3: to kind of motivate that group. And you know, previous 570 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 3: manager before him was kind of Delta, a little bit 571 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 3: of a tough head. You know, the teams weren't really good, 572 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 3: and Snick kind of came in at the right time 573 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 3: when a lot of these young what are now superstars 574 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: are kind. 575 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 2: Of you know, getting to the big leagues. 576 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 3: But yeah, you just automatically just have a respect for 577 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 3: guy who's you know, put his life's work into not 578 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: only baseball but the Braves organization. 579 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: And I think he never. 580 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 3: Took that position for granted, and I think the players 581 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 3: understood that. 582 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,239 Speaker 2: I understood it. 583 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: Even though when I got there he had won a 584 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 3: World Series, he had a ton of success, you could 585 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 3: still see the humility he had for the position, the 586 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: appreciation he had for the position. Never took it for granted, 587 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 3: never abused his power, understood his place. And that was 588 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 3: another thing is when he spoke, you listened, But he 589 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: didn't speak all that time all that much. He allowed 590 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: the players to kind of dictate the direction of that ship. 591 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: Was going to go in. And that's a. 592 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: Not to say he couldn't do it, but that's just 593 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 3: what a humble leader does is he understands that he 594 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 3: could be a dictator in that sort of that role, 595 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 3: but instead he wanted to delegate to his leaders on 596 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: his team, his coaching staff. He allowed us coaches to coach, 597 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: and that doesn't happen everywhere. 598 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: He didn't. 599 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 3: When you're a manager, you have the right to step 600 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: put your foot in, you know, any meeting, any door 601 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: that you want to step in, you could open your 602 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 3: mouth and hitting meeting, you can overstep wherever you see fit. 603 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: He allowed us coaches to coach, and I think that's 604 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: why those coaches, whether it's the you know, the bullpen 605 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 3: coach or the hitting guys, or the pitching coach or 606 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: the bullpen coach or whatever coach, the bench coach, he 607 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: allowed them to be them. 608 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: He allowed them to thrive in their roles. And you know, 609 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: it's powerful and if it is the last year. He 610 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: had a heck of a ride. 611 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: He deserves retirement much more than than most coaches in 612 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: this game. Someone that, like I said, dedicated his life 613 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: to one organization more beyond paid his dues to get 614 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: his chance in the big leagues and to be able 615 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 3: to go out as not necessarily go out this year, 616 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: but to go out right off in the sunset as 617 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 3: a World Series championship as well deserved. And you know, 618 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 3: just to speak to the class of him too. He 619 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 3: was someone that had reached out to me when I 620 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: officially retired. Not a man of many words, but powerful 621 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 3: a message he had sent me and just you know, 622 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 3: basically respecting, you know, my career and what I had 623 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: done and appreciate for it, and for me to you know, 624 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: really understand where I come from, you know, being a 625 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 3: late round draft pick and to survive ten years to 626 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: really sit back and celebrate that and enjoy that, you know, 627 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 3: pat myself on the back. 628 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: It's time to do that when your career is over. 629 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: And it just kind of speaks to who he is 630 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: and kind of the relationship that we kind. 631 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: Of formed just over a one short year there, and. 632 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: Charlie just an amazing career, talk about you know, just 633 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: the you know, I've spent a lot of time now 634 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 3: that I'm done, you know, talking to you know a 635 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 3: lot of youth, youthful players, you know, whether they're you know, 636 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 3: my five years here where guys that are in high school, 637 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 3: guys that are in college. But just reassuring him that 638 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 3: everyone's path is not linear in this direction, and you 639 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 3: know obviously mine, you know, going to a D two, 640 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 3: getting drafted late late, making it is you know, one 641 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 3: sort of un parallel, you know, skyrocket sort of. 642 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: Journey to the big leagues. 643 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 3: And then you think about a guy like Charlie Morton 644 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 3: who maybe had that kind of quick rise to the 645 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 3: big leagues but didn't have success right away and kind 646 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 3: of had to reinvent himself two or three times over 647 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 3: and really found his best success in his thirties. You 648 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: talk about kind of an un parallel path to success 649 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 3: and same and longevity in his career. Talk about a 650 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 3: guy who had to look himself in the mirror objectively, 651 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 3: make some changes, reinvent himself, and to be able to pitch, 652 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 3: you know, in his late thirties, be the best version 653 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 3: of himself kind of into his forties. Is uncharacteristic, but 654 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 3: just kind of speaks to the work ethic, the humility, 655 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 3: the ability to look at himself objectively in the mirror. 656 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 3: And Charlie as a teammate was. 657 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: Honestly like a father figure. 658 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 3: And it's weird to think that we're really only like 659 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 3: four six years apart, but in baseball years, that's light years, 660 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: you know. 661 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 2: You know, he had much older kids. 662 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 3: I have kids like still that are like babies, and 663 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 3: he has like kids that are going to high school. 664 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: So he was always like a father figure to everyone 665 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 3: behind the scenes. Very funny, goofy guy, almost awkward to 666 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 3: some degree, but he's just you know, he was just 667 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 3: awesome teammate, you know, super lovable, great, great competitor on 668 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 3: every five days. And then you know, as a starting pitcher, 669 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 3: obviously there's guys you want out. 670 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 2: There you're taking the ball. 671 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 3: Charlie, much like a lot of teammates, one of those 672 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 3: guys that wanted it's what is that guy like the 673 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 3: other four days? And Charlie was just a great teammate. 674 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 3: You wanted to be around him. He loved talking the game, 675 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 3: he loved helping the younger pictures. So if if hopefully 676 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 3: this you know I can't speak portray, but hopefully this 677 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 3: the end for him because he put a lot of 678 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 3: years in the big leagues and he's got a beautiful 679 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 3: family that it's probably ready for him to be home 680 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: and he'll get a chance to enjoy that. 681 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Kevin, this has been a great interview. Thank you 682 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: for the thoroughness and in the sincerity. Great to get 683 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, your perspective on things, and it's also just awesome. 684 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: We all want for the success on the field, but 685 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: it certainly means a lot to You're for an organization 686 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: where there's just full of great people that have been 687 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: there for a while and you gradt to you in 688 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: a great career, one of the best fielders of this generation. 689 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: You know, so many awards when it came to the outfield. 690 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: But Kevin, please correct me if I'm wrong. I also 691 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: want to put a little bit of spilight on that 692 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: Division two career of yours, if I'm correct. A fifty 693 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: four game hitting streak, which still remains the Division two record. 694 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: That is awesome. When you were going through that hitting 695 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: streak yourself, I mean, did you keep the same routine, 696 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: What was your secret to success during that time in 697 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: Division two? 698 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: If I might ask, Yeah. 699 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 3: I mean I think initially it was uh, you know, 700 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 3: when you're even in the big leagues, but more so 701 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 3: in college it's a little bit more realistic. But like, 702 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 3: our goal every time we go to home plate is 703 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: to have a successful bad and and in terms of 704 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 3: you know, uh, you know, the simple way of putting 705 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 3: it as success is getting hits. 706 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: Right. 707 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 3: I know, the game's changed a little bit in terms 708 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 3: of expected and a lot. 709 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 2: Of that stuff has some value and stuff. 710 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 3: But when you were a kid playing D two baseball 711 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 3: and it see either you get a hit or you 712 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 3: don't get a hit. When you're playing backyard baseball, you 713 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 3: get a hit or you don't get hit. There's no 714 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 3: I hit the ball hard, you know, I win sort 715 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 3: of mindset, you know, when I was in when I 716 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 3: was playing, so that was kind of always my mindset 717 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 3: was like I was trying to be successful ever at 718 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 3: bad and I was able to stack a lot of 719 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 3: those games on top of each other, and honestly, it 720 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 3: didn't feel any different. 721 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 2: Early on. 722 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 3: I was just kind of playing and that was my 723 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 3: idea of success was getting hits. And you know, when 724 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: I started reaching kind of different milestones, whether it was 725 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 3: the school record, whether it was my conference record, and 726 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: then ultimately when I started getting upwards of Division two 727 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 3: record and the national record, you know, you started feeling 728 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 3: the pressure a little bit more. But really, honestly, I 729 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 3: think I was a little naive and I think, you know, 730 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 3: I just was a ballplayer and I just kind of 731 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 3: kept that same routine, that same mindset. As Yes, I 732 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,479 Speaker 3: felt the pressure when I was kind of getting towards 733 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 3: my last step bat and I didn't have a hit 734 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 3: like it, maybe. 735 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 2: It just helped me focus a little bit more. 736 00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 3: But regardless, if I wasn't chasing these these records, I 737 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 3: was going to feel the same way. If I was 738 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 3: over three and this is my last at bat, I'm like, damn, 739 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 3: I want to go home with a hit. So, you know, 740 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,479 Speaker 3: I think that kind of just mindset kind of helped 741 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: me kind of get through it. And when it was over, 742 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 3: it was kind of sad. But I went back for 743 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 3: my senior. 744 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 2: Year and nothing really changed for me. 745 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 3: It was like, my goal every day is to go 746 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 3: get My goal every about is to get a hit. 747 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: It's not going to. 748 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: Change, Yeah, just keep it simple. Led to a hell 749 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: of a major league career and so now a great 750 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: addition to the foul Territory family. Kevin, if you'll stick 751 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: with us for just a moment, but thank you so 752 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: much for your time and best of luck to you 753 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: and your family continued success. 754 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. Yeah, I mean I love it. 755 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 3: I love the foul Territory brand. I love coming on 756 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 3: helping you out. Obviously reach out during the off season 757 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 3: when things start happening. I love talking Braves. Like I said, 758 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I got to reach out to some of 759 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 3: my Braves buddies over there and kind of pick their 760 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 3: brain a little bit and see what's going on and 761 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 3: would love to share. 762 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, well, thank you so much. With the insight 763 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: of course, Kevin Pilar, you will find him as a 764 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: member of the foul Territory Network. Hammer Territory part of 765 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: the foul Territory Network as well the rest of us. 766 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 2: Excuse me. 767 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: The weekend, the final weekend of the season is wrapping up. 768 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: I know that Kevin's probably sad to see that for 769 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: some of his friends in the game, and know we're 770 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: sad to see that in Braves Country, but hey, the 771 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: off season starts and then we'll all be back to 772 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: that success for Kevin plar again. Thank you so much, Kevin. 773 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: My name is Sean Colemans. Catch us next time. As 774 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: a reminder, go braves, we'll talk to you again soon 775 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: here on the Hammer Territory podcast