Speaker 1: Welcome in What'll Drive in the Great Episode three twenty
Speaker 1: four on NFL Draft Day. Now, obviously we're in the
Speaker 1: middle of an amazing first round of the NBA Playoffs.
Speaker 1: Every series in the West tied at one game a piece,
Speaker 1: except for the series in the West that really doesn't
Speaker 1: need to be happening in the Thunder and the Grizzlies
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference series Nicks Pistons good. The other ones probably not,
Speaker 1: but we can get to them as well. However, today
Speaker 1: is really an NFL day, and I think the NBA
Speaker 1: did as good of a job as it could have
Speaker 1: with setting up tonight's schedule, acknowledging that, yeah, people are
Speaker 1: going to be focused on the NFL by putting the
Speaker 1: by choosing the games and the time of those games
Speaker 1: that they did. I if you don't know the NBA
Speaker 1: schedule tonight, Nick Pistons at seven o'clock, that's a good one,
Speaker 1: you know. I maybe wish that was yesterday if it
Speaker 1: could have been, but so be it. Thunder Grizzlies at
Speaker 1: nine thirty, totally irrelevant, and then Nuggets Clippers at ten.
Speaker 1: Now it's weird that Nuggets Clippers is an NBA TV
Speaker 1: game and thunder Grizzlies is the T and T game,
Speaker 1: but set that aside. The what that will allow for
Speaker 1: is the NFL Draft to end. And you if you're
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Speaker 1: has been an awesome series in Nuggets Clippers. Also, by
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Speaker 1: what missed the cut. Jalen Brunson wins Clutch Player of
Speaker 1: the Year. Lebron should have Oh, I didn't know this.
Speaker 1: The ufcason Kansas City this weekend. I had no idea
Speaker 1: and the Cavs win Game two against the Heat in
Speaker 1: a game that had moments of Oh wait, are the
Speaker 1: Heat gonna pull this off? And then Donovan Mitchell a
Speaker 1: little personal eight to ozero run at the end of
Speaker 1: that game, a hilarious Kenny Atkinson challenge after Tyler hero
Speaker 1: tried to flop his way into some free throws. So
Speaker 1: that's what missed the cut Demons. Before we get to
Speaker 1: the draft. Huge game in Houston last night in your
Speaker 1: kind of adopted claimed hometown. The Rockets get the win,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 3: Rockets got the dub against a somewhat depleted Warriors team
Speaker 3: last night. Jimmy Butler obviously went down. I think Pods
Speaker 3: was dealing with a stomach flu thing. You called this
Speaker 3: a must win, and you also picked the Rockets in
Speaker 3: this series. Do you think the Rockets figured something out
Speaker 3: or do you think this is more credit to the
Speaker 3: Warriors having some injuries slash sicknesses over there?
Speaker 1: So I think the Rockets, even if Jimmy Butler didn't
Speaker 1: get hurt, we're gonna win that game. Now, Jimmy Butler's
Speaker 1: health could go a long way in determining who's going
Speaker 1: to win that series. Because the Rockets as evidenced by
Speaker 1: last night, or not a deep team. They played a
Speaker 1: guy last night who I will admit and I had
Speaker 1: never seen play in the NBA. And the only reason
Speaker 1: I knew who he was was because he's one of
Speaker 1: the greatest lacrosse players of all time in Pat Spencer
Speaker 1: so and I mean he, by the way, was really
Speaker 1: good for them off the bench, gave him twelve decent minutes,
Speaker 1: made five shots. I want to talk about the Jimmy
Speaker 1: Butler injury to start with Demonse, did you think that
Speaker 1: was a dirty play by Amen Thompson.
Speaker 2: I did not. I didn't think it was dirty. I
Speaker 2: didn't think it was dirty.
Speaker 3: Daniel said he might have gotten pushed a little bit
Speaker 3: into in teaching me there, but.
Speaker 1: Uh, I didn't think it was dirty either. I think, listen,
Speaker 1: I thought it was You could argue a little reckless,
Speaker 1: but I think the recklessness started with Draymond. I think
Speaker 1: Draymond gave him a little shove. He went maybe trying
Speaker 1: to sell the shove flailing, and Jimmy was the victim
Speaker 1: of it. But I did not at all think that
Speaker 1: was Now, if you remember in our series preview, I said,
Speaker 1: and Rockets fans got super pissed at me. I said,
Speaker 1: you gotta watch out for Dylan Brooks. He might undercut you,
Speaker 1: he might hurt somebody. And then this obviously wasn't Dylan Brooks,
Speaker 1: this was Amon Thompson. But that to me was not
Speaker 1: an intentional undercut. It was unfortunate undercut. And that was
Speaker 1: a hard damn fall for Jimmy Butler. And obviously I
Speaker 1: can't prove that even if Jimmy played, the Rockets were
Speaker 1: going to win that game. But unless you think, and
Speaker 1: maybe you would have, that Jimmy was gonna shut down
Speaker 1: Jaialen Green, the reason the Rockets won that game was
Speaker 1: because Jalen Green had one of the best games of
Speaker 1: his life. In fact, to be honest, I understand he's
Speaker 1: had bigger scoring nights in the regular season, given the stakes,
Speaker 1: given it that it's his first playoffs, it was the
Speaker 1: best game of his life. And Jalen Green, this is
Speaker 1: a he's a unique player because he's number two pick
Speaker 1: of the draft four years ago and in his second
Speaker 1: year Demonse, he was twenty two points, four rebounds, four
Speaker 1: assists on forty two percent from the field thirty four
Speaker 1: percent from three. That was in year two, twenty two,
Speaker 1: four and four on forty two thirty four. In year
Speaker 1: four he is twenty two four and four on thirty
Speaker 1: two thirty four. He is so the The Jalen Green
Speaker 1: angst is why hasn't he gotten better? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like if he was that guy in year two,
Speaker 1: now you can argue he got better because he was
Speaker 1: doing that for a bad team. Now he's doing that
Speaker 1: for a good team. And where he deserves massive credit
Speaker 1: is eighty two games played last year, eighty two games
Speaker 1: played this year, So he's super available. I think, one
Speaker 1: of only six guys to play all eighty two this year.
Speaker 1: But you'd like to see him become a better shooter.
Speaker 1: You'd like to see him, you know, the game evolve
Speaker 1: a bit. But when he goes off, this Rockets team
Speaker 1: can beat anybody because defensively, they're just monsters. And Amon
Speaker 1: Thompson got in foul trouble again, Dylan Brooks got in
Speaker 1: foul trouble and Steph still struggled mightily. Because if Jimmy's
Speaker 1: not out there, and this is where his loss was
Speaker 1: really felt, the defense can just be like, all right,
Speaker 1: we are top locking Steph, we are following Steph, we
Speaker 1: are just not gonna let Steph kill us and who
Speaker 1: else can score? Draymond Green with his second consecutive triple
Speaker 1: single with five turnovers to go along with it, and
Speaker 1: didn't have great defense to and didn't take it. This
Speaker 1: was another noteworthy thing for Draymond. Didn't take a single
Speaker 1: shot inside the three point line.
Speaker 2: I think he had his first points in the third
Speaker 2: quarter or something like that.
Speaker 1: I'll trust you on that. I mean, listen, he only
Speaker 1: had six points, I mean, or eight points because he
Speaker 1: made free throw a couple free throws. But Draymond's impact
Speaker 1: was not really felt all of a sudden. You know
Speaker 1: they're playing. I mean, the Warriors played, even if you
Speaker 1: remove the garbage time minutes of Key Knox and Tray
Speaker 1: Jackson Davis. They played twelve guys. They played fifteen guys
Speaker 1: in the game when.
Speaker 3: You included guys and took in there. They put well
Speaker 3: Through Kaminga in there. It was probably because of the
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler thing. I was curious if they were gonna
Speaker 3: try throwing him in the mix if they got sour
Speaker 3: on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they they did put Kaminga in there. It was listen,
Speaker 1: Kaminga lost his spot to Jimmy Butler essentially like that.
Speaker 1: They just want so that's why when Jimmy went out,
Speaker 1: they put him in almost immediately, And Kaminga kind of
Speaker 1: reminded you why Steve Kurt doesn't really want to play him.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Kaminga in twenty six minutes, took twelve shots. Jonathan
Speaker 1: Kaminga was very active and looking for his offense, inefficient
Speaker 1: and not that great anywhere else. And now listen, you
Speaker 1: feel for him because he's rusty, so I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: kill him on not being super efficient offensively. But when
Speaker 1: you get put on ice because they want you to
Speaker 1: rebound and defend, and you get twenty six minutes for
Speaker 1: an undersized team and you come away with three rebounds
Speaker 1: and you make kind of some boneheaded plays, you just
Speaker 1: kind of got the feeling. This is the frustration Pods
Speaker 1: being what was they said, food poisoning. I mean, Pods
Speaker 1: played fourteen minutes demons zero points, zero rebound, zero assists,
Speaker 1: zero steel, zero block, zero turnover, zero fouls, five miss threes.
Speaker 1: All Right'm sorry, five miss shots, two miss threes. That
Speaker 1: so POD's was not really available and the team's just
Speaker 1: too thin to deal with those types of losses. So
Speaker 1: what does this mean for the series. I thought the
Speaker 1: Warriors could be in trouble to begin with. I think
Speaker 1: they are in significant trouble if Jimmy has to miss
Speaker 1: even just a game or two, because let's just say
Speaker 1: Jimmy misses both games in Golden State. Now, you're probably
Speaker 1: best case scenario coming back to Houston tied to two,
Speaker 1: staring at We're gonna have to win a game seven
Speaker 1: and on the road, and I'm not listening. We saw
Speaker 1: Steph win a game seven on the road in Sacramento
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago with a fifty point game. Now,
Speaker 1: that was a very different team. That was a team
Speaker 1: that was relied on its offense and at shooting. This
Speaker 1: team relies on its physicality. But I would I think
Speaker 1: the Warriors are going to be fighting a major uphill
Speaker 1: battle against either the Timberwolves or more likely the Lakers
Speaker 1: in round two. And if this series is a seven
Speaker 1: game physical war, I just don't think you're gonna end
Speaker 1: up seeing the best of the Warriors in round two
Speaker 1: if they get there. Here's the other concerning point. I
Speaker 1: think for Golden State. Fred van Vliet can't be worse.
Speaker 1: Fred van Vliet in this series is six for twenty
Speaker 1: seven from the field, three for twenty from three and
Speaker 1: they got the split. And so if Fred van Vliet,
Speaker 1: who has been historically not like dominant but a good
Speaker 1: postseason performer, is fi you know, in his final two
Speaker 1: years in Toronto, he's sixteen a game, thirty six percent
Speaker 1: from three, seven assists. Like, if Fred van Vliet just
Speaker 1: stops being terrible, that's another offensive option for the Rockets.
Speaker 1: And now Jalen Green. Yesterday was such a huge game
Speaker 1: for Jalen Green, because when you've never played in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: when you're that young, and you're bad in game one,
Speaker 1: if you're bad in game two, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you just might be in your head the rest of
Speaker 1: the series might be like, oh man, I'm not coming there.
Speaker 1: But now he was not only was he not bad
Speaker 1: in game two, he was great in Game two, and
Speaker 1: so he's gonna be feeling good. And I just don't
Speaker 1: love the ice. You watch the Warriors and it's like, man,
Speaker 1: Buddy Healds prominently involved. He couldn't get on the court
Speaker 1: for the Sixers in the playoffs last year. Gary Payton's
Speaker 1: prominently involved. He really hasn't been the exact same since
Speaker 1: sadly Dylan Brooks broke his elbow a few years ago.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to shoot, they don't. KURR is grasping
Speaker 1: its straws a bit. And without Jimmy, I think you
Speaker 1: are in real, real trouble. And so I think that
Speaker 1: the Rockets were likely going to win last night even
Speaker 1: if Jimmy didn't get hurt. But I think that if
Speaker 1: Jimmy misses time. I don't know what this, I don't
Speaker 1: know what answers, the Warriors can have go ahead.
Speaker 2: They could yeah, I mean that was without Jimmy.
Speaker 1: What Now, here's the bright side, because I know there
Speaker 1: are some people that are Warriors fans, and then there's
Speaker 1: some people that are just Steph Curry fans. We all
Speaker 1: know the rules as they've always been with Steph Curry.
Speaker 1: When he's awesome and or when they win, we start
Speaker 1: talking about him being better than Magic Johnson. Is this
Speaker 1: the Steph Curry or does he belong in the goat conversation?
Speaker 1: And when they lose in round one or miss the
Speaker 1: playoffs or anything like that, we just move along to
Speaker 1: the next thing. So Steph is not going to be
Speaker 1: under massive scrutiny about why he couldn't carry them past
Speaker 1: round one against a Rockets team that had no all
Speaker 1: stars and no you know, no guys that was considered
Speaker 1: an overrated tu or an overseeded team at two. Like,
Speaker 1: don't don't worry, folks, The sports media apparatus will have
Speaker 1: his back and there will not be any referendums on
Speaker 1: what Steph Curry what you said?
Speaker 3: Do you think he's supposed to be able to do
Speaker 3: that right now? Lead that team and you know, just
Speaker 3: evil without Jim's power that eye.
Speaker 1: Do I think he should? No, But I don't think
Speaker 1: he belongs within a country mile of the goat conversation either.
Speaker 1: I do. I think he should know, But I don't
Speaker 1: think he's you know, firmly in the top ten all time.
Speaker 1: I think he's right on the outside. I think, and listen,
Speaker 1: Steph is an unbelievable player and is having one of
Speaker 1: the three greatest old guy seasons ever right now this moment.
Speaker 1: But what I am saying is folks that want to
Speaker 1: foist him into those conversations that I think are just
Speaker 1: a touch rich for his blood. You don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about those folks being intellectually consistent and holding him
Speaker 1: to those type tapes of standards. You don't You don't
Speaker 1: have to worry that thirty seven year old Steph Curry
Speaker 1: is going to get the same flack that thirty eight
Speaker 1: year old Lebron James got when his co star got
Speaker 1: hurt and round one and they lost to a young,
Speaker 1: upstart Phoenix Suns team, when the Lebron's team was a
Speaker 1: couple years removed from the title. You don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about that, And that's nice. It's a nice, peaceful
Speaker 1: way to be able to be a fan of an
Speaker 1: athlete that you don't have to worry that any type
Speaker 1: of bad luck or ad just didn't quite have enough
Speaker 1: is going to end up being a retroactive referendum on
Speaker 1: their place in history. It's a constant, you know, only
Speaker 1: when can't lose situation, and I imagine it's it's delightful
Speaker 1: and so that's all I'm saying. I I won't be
Speaker 1: because I thought the Rockets, even if Jimmy Butler were healthy,
Speaker 1: were the better team, and so it won't be coming
Speaker 1: for me. I'm just saying, it's nice to know it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be coming from anybody.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: We won't talk about Draymond for a minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: I was about to say, especially with if Jimmian's are
Speaker 3: being out, But even if Jimmian's are coming back, do
Speaker 3: you think that Draymond's gonna be even more unhinged throughout
Speaker 3: the rest of this series?
Speaker 1: So Draymond Yesterday was Draymond yesterday was like bordering on
Speaker 1: losing it and Steve Kerr and I I love Steve Kerr.
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr did a whole Woe is Draymond because the
Speaker 1: fans were chanting f you Draymond, and like, I wish
Speaker 1: they wouldn't do that. Maybe I'm old school. What about
Speaker 1: the kids that would resonate more with me if A
Speaker 1: Draymond wasn't asking them to do it louder and if
Speaker 1: Draymond hadn't two days ago taken credit for Carl Anthony
Speaker 1: Towns is good game one I knew that would make
Speaker 1: you mad. Demonse like terrible, the lack of shame when
Speaker 1: it comes to him and Carl Anthony Towns, juxtaposed with
Speaker 1: Carl Anthony Towns being very open and honest and vulnerable
Speaker 1: about all the losses he suffered in his life, and
Speaker 1: us then finding out that the latest game that Towns
Speaker 1: missed that Draymond said he was afraid of playing Jimmy
Speaker 1: or whatever he said on here I think was Jimmy.
Speaker 1: It was because he was at another funeral. And then
Speaker 1: Draymond's saying, you know, I lit a fire under him
Speaker 1: or whatever it was, Like Draymond asks for this, he
Speaker 1: wants to be the villain. That's fine, But then crime
Speaker 1: a river about the fans in Houston not liking him
Speaker 1: and using a little profanity. But I thought Draymond listen,
Speaker 1: Draymond was flailing about Draymond is going to try to
Speaker 1: get in it, get in in it with the Rockets.
Speaker 1: But here's the difference. There's like four guys on the
Speaker 1: Rockets that could get into a real scuffle or altercation
Speaker 1: with Draymond Green. Dylan Brooks could, Amon Thompson could, Steven
Speaker 1: Adams could, Tarry Easton could. I don't think Jalen Green's
Speaker 1: I don't think that's his flavor. Any of those guys
Speaker 1: the Rockets would be like, Okay, throw them both out,
Speaker 1: throw out Draymond and dealer's choice on our guy. Shngoon's
Speaker 1: not gonna Shingoon's not gonna take the bait, and Draymond's
Speaker 1: gonna target Shingoon because the other thing we know about
Speaker 1: Draymond is he likes you know, he has a type
Speaker 1: of center that he thinks he can intimidate. And in
Speaker 1: my experience, it is Rudy Gobert from France. Uh, demontes
Speaker 1: Sabonis from? Where's Sabonis from? Is it serb is somebody? Right?
Speaker 1: I forget where Sabonis is from. His dad is Yugoslavian,
Speaker 1: but that's not a country anymore. My apologies. I mean
Speaker 1: Sabonis technically is from America, but his because his dad
Speaker 1: was playing here. Uh who am I forgetting Steven Adams
Speaker 1: from New Zealand and Shingoon from Turkey like he likes
Speaker 1: to Lithuania. Maybe I was wrong about this Yugoslavia thing.
Speaker 1: No vlades from Yugoslavia. Bad job by me? So I yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think Draymond's on a knife's edge. And
Speaker 1: it was noteworthy to me that after the scuffle last night,
Speaker 1: Kurr didn't wave the white flag. Kerr was still playing
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, but he took Draymond out, So it wasn't
Speaker 1: like we're taking the starters out. It was no We
Speaker 1: just don't want Draymond to get thrown out, to get
Speaker 1: thrown out of the game. All right, So let's move
Speaker 1: on to the Celtics, and remember everybody like rate, subscribe review.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Yes, not Tatum, no problem. Took care of business last night.
Speaker 3: Beat throw Orlando Magic in Game two thanks to Jalen Brown.
Speaker 3: Porzingis actually got a forehead contusion whatever you want to call.
Speaker 3: He got an elbowed in the head, gush and blood.
Speaker 3: Missoula came out and said, I like watching him bleed
Speaker 3: on the court.
Speaker 2: I think that's important.
Speaker 1: Ula is such a nutcase.
Speaker 2: Yes, what was your biggest takeaway from the Celtics going
Speaker 2: up too?
Speaker 1: Oh, Jalen Brown's knee looked healthy.
Speaker 2: Ne looked healthy.
Speaker 3: And you need to Tatum get that hand on ice
Speaker 3: man game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty close.
Speaker 2: It's the Magic, right.
Speaker 1: That's the well hold on. What do you mean you
Speaker 1: mean the game was too close for comfort for you?
Speaker 3: I think that it's just if that's what because I
Speaker 3: feel like Jason Tatum gets a lot of disrespect.
Speaker 2: You saw what they looked.
Speaker 3: Like against Orlando Magic last night without Jason Tatum. If
Speaker 3: they're looking like that against the Magic, what's it going
Speaker 3: to look like round two whenever we started.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's I So I agree with that that
Speaker 1: I think that I don't think they need Tatum to
Speaker 1: beat the Magic. No, I do think they need Tatum.
Speaker 1: I think they need Tatum in round two against the Knicks.
Speaker 1: And I know they need Tatum.
Speaker 3: No Tatum and we can have anybody else gone, it
Speaker 3: just cannot be Tatum in rest two.
Speaker 1: So I so I agree with you. So my so
Speaker 1: with that said, I would sit Tatum and we'll get
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown a second. I would sit Tatum game three,
Speaker 1: even if he's like I'm Fine're like, no, we'll sit
Speaker 1: you game three. If we go up three to zero,
Speaker 1: we the you know what I mean, they're gonna quit
Speaker 1: Orlando then it's over. So then you can make, you know,
Speaker 1: do what you want. Now. If you lose game three
Speaker 1: and you've sat Tatum precautionary wise, then get him back
Speaker 1: in for game four. Uh, but I would I don't
Speaker 1: think Tatum should play the next game either. I thought
Speaker 1: the Jalen Brown game was important because Jalen Brown since
Speaker 1: getting banged up. He he hurt his knee I think
Speaker 1: in the Sun's game back on April fourth. Since then,
Speaker 1: he played twenty minutes against the Wizards, scored sixteen points,
Speaker 1: played twenty minutes against the Knicks, scored six points, didn't
Speaker 1: play in the remainder of their reg season games, and
Speaker 1: then played thirty minutes in Game one and scored sixteen points.
Speaker 1: It was like, Oh, how big of an issue is
Speaker 1: this knee gonna be? Seeing him play forty two minutes
Speaker 1: every time the Magic made a run. He kind of answered,
Speaker 1: having thirty six points, ten rebounds, five assists. That to
Speaker 1: me was the story that because the Celtics need him,
Speaker 1: they are going to need Tatum and Brown both fully
Speaker 1: go by round three. I don't think they need them
Speaker 1: both full one hundred percent to win round one, certainly,
Speaker 1: and probably not even to win round two without shaking
Speaker 1: the Knicks. Look, but I do think that the Calves
Speaker 1: are for real, and obviously whomever comes out of the
Speaker 1: West is for real. Honest question, Demons before we move
Speaker 1: on to the Magic side of this, because you feel
Speaker 1: like Tatum gets a little too much disrespect. Was there
Speaker 1: a part of you that wanted the Magic to win
Speaker 1: last year.
Speaker 3: There was no part of me that wanted the Magic
Speaker 3: to win last night. But I was kind of thinking
Speaker 3: in my head as I was watching the game, and
Speaker 3: they would like cut to the Tatum mios or whatever.
Speaker 3: He was probably enjoying. I don't want to say enjoying
Speaker 3: it someone. And I don't want to put this on
Speaker 3: his character, but like you.
Speaker 2: Want to feel me, he would.
Speaker 1: I don't think it would have felt great for him
Speaker 1: if the Celtics won by thirty four, yeah, right, yea.
Speaker 3: And so I think it played in his favor, yeah,
Speaker 3: because I think always especially what he means to the team.
Speaker 1: But go ahead, right, And so I just and this
Speaker 1: is where I get into it with Wilds on the show,
Speaker 1: where I just basically tell Wilds he's got to pick
Speaker 1: a lane that he wants to rep. With the Celtics.
Speaker 1: You can rep the Jason Tatum is underrated. If he's
Speaker 1: if they win the Chancechampionship this year, and he's four
Speaker 1: time first Team All NBA, two time champion, best player
Speaker 1: on the team both years, all before he turns twenty eight,
Speaker 1: we need to start putting him in some real historical conversations.
Speaker 1: You can have that lane or you can have the
Speaker 1: There is not another team in the league who's third
Speaker 1: best player would even start for the Celtics. And you
Speaker 1: know we have the best roster and we have the
Speaker 1: sixth man of the year and our seventh man's Al Horford.
Speaker 1: And where I give Wilds a hard time is I
Speaker 1: tell him, I'm like, you're trying to argue both cases.
Speaker 1: Tatum's wildly disrespected and the roster is perfect. Like the
Speaker 1: second thing there leads to the first because people have
Speaker 1: so much respect. So I try to tell Wilds, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're if you really are all in on Tatum being
Speaker 1: an all time right, you actually low key need to
Speaker 1: be like Drew Holiday overrated, like the like the you
Speaker 1: need to like right, you need to like poke some
Speaker 1: holes in the Who was Kris STAPs for zingis really
Speaker 1: before Jay? He got to play with Jason Tatum like
Speaker 1: and so Chris STAPs By the way, this Celtics team
Speaker 1: the reminder for how scary the Celtics can be, or
Speaker 1: the thing you not the reminder. The thing you have
Speaker 1: to remember for how scary the Celtics can be is
Speaker 1: that they went on that run last year getting almost
Speaker 1: nothing from Chris STAPs throughout the playoffs that he got
Speaker 1: hurt in round one and didn't play, you know, in
Speaker 1: he was like the second round or the third round
Speaker 1: and then had the say it again, Starry, he.
Speaker 2: Was just like Game one of the finals and then
Speaker 2: he was gone.
Speaker 1: Correct. No, so he played game one and two and
Speaker 1: then a little in game five, So you've got it right.
Speaker 1: Game one was the game he checked in and couldn't miss. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they and they went on basically that playoff run
Speaker 1: getting nothing from him, and that's unfair because he it
Speaker 1: was awesome in that Game one. But he is such
Speaker 1: a X factor for them, indifference maker. And so yeah, listen,
Speaker 1: Celtics are really scary, and I think this, I think
Speaker 1: the Celtics. I think the best sign of how much
Speaker 1: people respect the Celtics is how little respect we are
Speaker 1: giving to the Cavs. And by that I mean, like
Speaker 1: nobody is even though the Calves won sixty four games,
Speaker 1: you know, they are very well rounded team. All they
Speaker 1: would have home court advantage over the Celtics in the
Speaker 1: conference finals. I haven't heard anybody be like, ooh, how
Speaker 1: do the Thunder or the Clippers or the Lakers or
Speaker 1: the Warriors match up against the Calves in the finals.
Speaker 1: Everyone is just like, how does everyone match up against Boston?
Speaker 1: And so I, so I the Celtics are And that
Speaker 1: was a great win yesterday because Orlando. Listen, Orlando scores
Speaker 1: one hundred points. That's that's a big deal for them,
Speaker 1: and so it's they got to one hundred. And for
Speaker 1: the Celtics to be able to get to one o
Speaker 1: nine against that defense without without Tatum being involved, really impressive.
Speaker 1: What's our follow up here?
Speaker 3: What does Polo need to make the to make the
Speaker 3: Leite next year? Like the same type of leap that
Speaker 3: k did this year.
Speaker 1: It's just got to I mean, just got to become
Speaker 1: a better three point shooter. That's really it does everything.
Speaker 1: Palo's gotten better every single year. His Rebounding's gone up
Speaker 1: every year. His assists jumped in year two, dropped a
Speaker 1: little this year.
Speaker 2: It's fine.
Speaker 1: His scoring from twenty twenty to twenty two to twenty six.
Speaker 1: His efficiency is forty five percent shooter thirty two percent
Speaker 1: from three. If all, if you can just get that
Speaker 1: to thirty six percent from three, then you're twenty eight
Speaker 1: a game. Then you're like that It just adds another element.
Speaker 1: So that's really it. I think Palo's excellent. Now. I
Speaker 1: said yesterday on the show that I think he's you know,
Speaker 1: his destiny is probably best player on a good team,
Speaker 1: second best player on a championship caliber team, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know that he can jump that fi that final
Speaker 1: level to rump is damn hard and so I but
Speaker 1: I'm really impressed by Pellow. I like him a lot.
Speaker 1: I like him a lot. All right, let's do a
Speaker 1: couple quick previews before we get to our draft stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see, you said this Nuggets Clippers series is going
Speaker 3: to be super tightly contested and just gonna be a
Speaker 3: great series overall. Kawhi is obviously coming off the really
Speaker 3: good game the other day. These teams played a night
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Who do you have.
Speaker 1: Tonight? I do like the Clippers. I picked Nuggets in seven,
Speaker 1: so my I think it goes back to Denver to two.
Speaker 1: But I am very curious what the Intoit Dome is
Speaker 1: gonna be like. And I'm curious. I'm looking it up
Speaker 1: right now with our friends at seat Geek. Code right
Speaker 1: ten get ten percent off for free plug. I guess
Speaker 1: not a free plug, but regardless, I'm curious what what
Speaker 1: tickets are like at the end of it Dome compared
Speaker 1: to at Staples. The okay, so they are no, they
Speaker 1: are much cheaper, but the I just kind of feel
Speaker 1: like sitting in that now you there are no seats
Speaker 1: available in the wall. The wall is the wall. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's just for season ticket whatever it is, but there's uh.
Speaker 1: I'm really that was a great job by Bomber. Those
Speaker 1: were you know, he his his foresight on build this arena,
Speaker 1: give us a real home court. I think was was
Speaker 1: really smart and it's paid off. And listen, they bet
Speaker 1: on the fact that Harden was gonna be worth the
Speaker 1: contract they gave him and that Kawhi wasn't cooked, and
Speaker 1: throughout the majority of this year I thought it was
Speaker 1: a bad bet because Kawhi missed like the first thirty games,
Speaker 1: and then when he came back, he was a twenty
Speaker 1: point a game guy, if that I think seventeen point
Speaker 1: a game guy. But now since March first, he's been unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And I am you know, Michael Porter Junior saying he
Speaker 1: has the shoulder sprain. That one concerns me a bit,
Speaker 1: and I just think this is hard fought series where
Speaker 1: I expect, I'm it's not yet late enough in the
Speaker 1: series for me to just really bank on James Harden
Speaker 1: having a playoff James Harden moment. I think that he'll
Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine today. I do worry that
Speaker 1: if Michael Porter Junior's banged up, it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of Russell Westbrook, and I think that is potentially
Speaker 1: for Denver. But I think Jokers a little worn down
Speaker 1: and I think I do like the Clippers tonight. What
Speaker 1: follow ups do we.
Speaker 3: Have with how you've hyped up the series. If Jokich
Speaker 3: ended up losing this round to the Clippers, would it
Speaker 3: be a huge knock on him in your book?
Speaker 1: No, I do not think it would be a huge
Speaker 1: knock on him. What I do think is this. I
Speaker 1: think that going out last year in Round two to
Speaker 1: a team that was not a championship caliber team and
Speaker 1: blowing that game seven lead at home, and then if
Speaker 1: they were to go out this year in round one
Speaker 1: in a series they had a home court advantage, where
Speaker 1: Game two you can say part of the reason they
Speaker 1: lost was because jokicch didn't play very well. What I
Speaker 1: think is it could depending on what happens with the
Speaker 1: rest of the playoffs open the door for the best
Speaker 1: player or alive conversation to start up again, like Jokich
Speaker 1: has sealed that door shut where it is just consensus
Speaker 1: clear he's the best player in the league. You have
Speaker 1: a you have back to back early playoff exits against
Speaker 1: team now, especially if the Clippers then get popped in
Speaker 1: round two. Like that's the other thing. It's one thing,
Speaker 1: we got a tough draw. We played the champs in
Speaker 1: round one last year. You didn't have a tough draw.
Speaker 1: You played Minnesota who lost to the team that then
Speaker 1: lost to the team. If you you know, if you
Speaker 1: lose to the Clippers and they go on to win
Speaker 1: the championship, that's one thing. You lose the Clippers and
Speaker 1: they end up getting waxed in round two, in five
Speaker 1: or six at something else. It also matters how well
Speaker 1: you play, Like Joker was good in Game one, and
Speaker 1: I thought was not good in Game two, and I
Speaker 1: thought the foulbating was bad, the flopping the turnovers. Now
Speaker 1: he should again. I still think the Nuggets are gonna
Speaker 1: win this series, and I'm not gonna kill him if
Speaker 1: they lose it. But I do think that it could
Speaker 1: reopen the door on that conversation, just like Giannis having
Speaker 1: a tough round two loss followed by a round one
Speaker 1: loss opened the door and Joker stormed through it. Now
Speaker 1: who would storm through it? Am I really gonna say
Speaker 1: Shay is the best player in the world? Probably not
Speaker 1: like I just probably like I gotta see what happened,
Speaker 1: But that do I actually think in my bones Shade
Speaker 1: is better than Joker? I don't Could Luca storm through
Speaker 1: it if they win the tie? Demonty Schikan said, what
Speaker 1: do the Lakers win the title? Lakers win the title? Luca?
Speaker 1: Could Luca could have a claim to it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Uh could Tatum? Could Tatum be like? What about me?
Speaker 2: Like, yes, Tato, Luca and.
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay Aunt? Sure if they were to win the tie,
Speaker 1: I got his affairs fair. Yes, if the Timbrelves were
Speaker 1: to win the title, then Aunt would probably have to
Speaker 1: be the best player in the world for them to
Speaker 1: do it, because I don't think they have a championship
Speaker 1: caliber roster. I mean to that note, I guess Kate
Speaker 1: Cunningham like this win. I just give it to him.
Speaker 1: So again, I'm not even saying he would lose the title.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the door would be open a like,
Speaker 1: and people you would now be allowed to submit names
Speaker 1: for consideration, so to speak. Also, Daniel, you can tell
Speaker 1: me in the chat what's up with your interim coach
Speaker 1: whining about the Clippers piping and crowd noise. You guys,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear anything from Nuggets folks complaining
Speaker 1: about unfair home court advantage when you guys get to
Speaker 1: play on the moon.
Speaker 2: You, I mean, it's fair enough, actually fair.
Speaker 1: Enough, Daniel saying, learn to breathe, I mean, give me
Speaker 1: a break. Um, all right, let's quickly get to these
Speaker 1: other previews before we get to the draft stuff.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, the Knicks are coming off that upset in
Speaker 3: Game two against Detroit the other day a few days ago,
Speaker 3: I should say, So they're back tonight, They're playing in Detroit.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be Detroit's first playoff home game since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3: How nervous should Nicks fans be right now?
Speaker 1: Nervous Like I have overreacted to every game of this series,
Speaker 1: to be fair, But now I think the Knicks just
Speaker 1: have to feel like, let's just get it, let's just
Speaker 1: be two to two, coming back to New York, like,
Speaker 1: just find a way to get a split. And because
Speaker 1: right now it's fair to say they have been out
Speaker 1: played for seven of the eight quarters in this series,
Speaker 1: that they had the one amazing rally twenty one to
Speaker 1: nothing run, an all time run in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: of Game one, and I just I know this is
Speaker 1: not breaking news to anyone, but you just worry, are
Speaker 1: these guys gonna wear down a bit the where Let
Speaker 1: me let me just pull it up real quick with
Speaker 1: the minutes that these guys are already playing. Now. I
Speaker 1: understand their young guys, I get it. I understand that
Speaker 1: Tibbs doesn't want to hear it. And you can argue
Speaker 1: Tibbs basically calloused them by how he plays them in
Speaker 1: the regular season. I get all that. But when you
Speaker 1: are Jalen Brunson has played eight forty two minutes per game,
Speaker 1: OG has played forty four minutes per game. I you know,
Speaker 1: Josh Hart, Karl Anthony Towns, and Michale Bridges all at
Speaker 1: thirty five minutes per game. Gotta feel fresh, and so
Speaker 1: you try to see if you can get a little
Speaker 1: more out of Mitchell Robinson. I've never been a campaign guy.
Speaker 1: He did play well in that first game, and the
Speaker 1: Pistons just right now do feel deeper. The Knicks are
Speaker 1: more talented, but the Pistons deeper.
Speaker 3: Well, you can't have that mindset like, let's leave it,
Speaker 3: let's get back to New York too too. I think
Speaker 3: you got to go in there and show him his boss.
Speaker 1: Oh you're saying, you're saying get back to New York
Speaker 1: three to one. And what I'm saying is what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is you got to be careful. You don't go
Speaker 1: back to New York one three. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like I and again I have totally overreacted. I'm not
Speaker 1: giving great analysis on this series. I will be honest
Speaker 1: with you. I'm being emotional about it. I think it's
Speaker 1: part of going to the game and bet live, betting
Speaker 1: the game and still feeling a little bitten by it.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do a few follow ups here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you expect a pretty similar foul baity type
Speaker 3: of game from Brunson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just how he plays correct. He's an excellent player,
Speaker 1: but he's got some Jabbroni elements to his game. And
Speaker 1: now listen, maybe that's what he has to do. Because
Speaker 1: of his size and he is skilled at it. But
Speaker 1: fair is fair. I didn't like I don't like Trey
Speaker 1: Young doing it. I don't like him doing it. I
Speaker 1: like Jalen, I like his dad a lot. I you know,
Speaker 1: I think he's your mom at this point, one of
Speaker 1: her three or four favorite players in the league. You know,
Speaker 1: your mom just now claims she's a Knicks fan. Wow,
Speaker 1: she's like, I live here, I love going to Sorry,
Speaker 1: I just rolled over right here sal you guys, how
Speaker 1: good of a boy is he being? Though you guys
Speaker 1: didn't even know he was here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right and right by you too? At that none
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, buddy, but uh the no. So, yeah, your
Speaker 1: mom's a Knicks fan, now, all right?
Speaker 2: That's fair.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's it because when we were living
Speaker 3: in Houston, I feel like she was she was a
Speaker 3: Rockets fan.
Speaker 1: So she's yeah, just adopts the team of where she's at.
Speaker 1: Uh and listen, I would I want the Knicks to
Speaker 1: win this series. I really want to be able to
Speaker 1: go to Nick Celtics in the garden. I think that
Speaker 1: would be a ton of fun. But I fair is fair.
Speaker 1: Like Brunton is flopping all around the place and in
Speaker 1: ways that I don't really love. All right, do we
Speaker 1: have anything else on the series?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So is Detroit playing with house money here or do
Speaker 3: you think that they still have something to prove?
Speaker 1: Both they are playing with house money, but I think
Speaker 1: that they are like, this was a good season, a
Speaker 1: great season already, no matter what. But I think at
Speaker 1: this point they're like, hey, we can win, like it'd be.
Speaker 1: It's it. It's one thing if you get if you're
Speaker 1: not supposed to, you had no expectation going into the season,
Speaker 1: you overachieve, you get to the playoffs and it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: we're out classed, you know what I mean. But a
Speaker 1: good year. But now, but that's not what's happened. Now
Speaker 1: they're like, we're not only are we in this, maybe
Speaker 1: we're better, Maybe we have the best player on the
Speaker 1: court in kid, we're the deeper team, you know all
Speaker 1: of that, And so that is that's where they're at.
Speaker 1: And then also, I don't you can ask this last
Speaker 1: follow up, I don't remember this story. So I don't.
Speaker 2: Are you scared of Knicks fans coming up to you
Speaker 2: in the boldhega again?
Speaker 1: After I don't, I'm sure that happened. I don't remember
Speaker 1: talking about it. That is, Oh wow, they got me
Speaker 1: with the hot cheetos and not to No, that's not
Speaker 1: brew that's Jim Dole' that's the owner of the Knicks.
Speaker 1: That's super funny that you thought that was Brue just
Speaker 1: because of the color of the hair and the goateate. No,
Speaker 1: that's the owner of the Knicks. That's super funny. It's
Speaker 1: a reason to watch this on YouTube. All right, let's
Speaker 1: Dottle Lakers Timbrels befo where you get to the draft. Uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So thanks to their defense, the Lakers evened up
Speaker 3: that series the other day.
Speaker 2: So they're playing on Friday, and JJ Reddick might have
Speaker 2: schemed some nice stuff here.
Speaker 3: And I said after the game the defense was confusing
Speaker 3: in something he hadn't seen.
Speaker 2: So you talked yesterday on You talked yesterday on an.
Speaker 3: Emergency pod and said that Lebron would be whatever the
Speaker 3: Lakers needed to be.
Speaker 2: What do you think that's gonna be tomorrow?
Speaker 1: Uh, it's probably gonna have to score a little more
Speaker 1: uh than he did in Game one or Game two,
Speaker 1: but I think mostly and by score a little more,
Speaker 1: it really just means hit a couple more hit a
Speaker 1: couple open shots. Lebron is I eighteen for his last
Speaker 1: sixty eight from three? I think and so and that
Speaker 1: is you. You guys have heard me say this one
Speaker 1: hundred times. I'll say it again. Lebron never shoots his
Speaker 1: average from three. And by that, I mean if he
Speaker 1: shot thirty eight percent this year, You're not gonna find
Speaker 1: a month he shot thirty eight percent. You're gonna find
Speaker 1: a months where he shot forty five percent, and then
Speaker 1: months where he shot twenty seven percent. And it evens out.
Speaker 1: He goes hot on these hot and cold streaks from three.
Speaker 1: Right now, he's on a cold streak. But I think
Speaker 1: him being the head of the Snake defensively is what
Speaker 1: they need from him, what they The guy who I
Speaker 1: actually think they need more from offensively is Austin Reeves.
Speaker 1: Luke has been awesome man and Luca Game two, Like
Speaker 1: you all, you've got to adjust your eyes to what
Speaker 1: some of these stat lines mean within the context of
Speaker 1: the game. So Luca in game two having thirty one,
Speaker 1: twelve and nine in a game that the team scores
Speaker 1: ninety four points, responsible for seven rights in the points, right,
Speaker 1: it's just remarkable. So It's just like Steph in game
Speaker 1: one scoring thirty one when they scored ninety five, Kawhi
Speaker 1: in game two scoring thirty nine when they only score
Speaker 1: one to Ozh five. Those are big time numbers, like
Speaker 1: big outputs. I've said for I've said for years that
Speaker 1: I think and this is part of his legend, and
Speaker 1: it's a deserved part of his legend that I think
Speaker 1: the greatest game Michael Jordan ever played was his final
Speaker 1: game with the Chicago Bulls. Uh. And that game, you
Speaker 1: see he scored. He was fifteen of thirty five from
Speaker 1: the field, so that was not he was hyper efficient,
Speaker 1: but Michael Jordan in that game, and again the stat
Speaker 1: line's funny because it was forty five points, one rebound,
Speaker 1: one assist. But the reason I think that was the
Speaker 1: greatest game of his career was he scored forty five points,
Speaker 1: his team scored eighty seven, so like that, you know,
Speaker 1: and it was to win a championship, and he knew
Speaker 1: it was his final game. Just a remarkable performance, so
Speaker 1: you gotta always It's also why I thought people were
Speaker 1: a little too critical of the statline Lebron had offensively
Speaker 1: in Game two, twenty one to eleven and seven, they
Speaker 1: scored ninety four, and so I'm good with that. I
Speaker 1: also think Anthony Edwards was a little too honest. It's like, man,
Speaker 1: they had me frasfled, haven't. I haven't seen that, and
Speaker 1: so I'm really people upset. You know, typically role players
Speaker 1: play better at home. I'm curious the level of pressure
Speaker 1: or anxiety the Timberwolves feel going into this Game three
Speaker 1: where they laid down to but yeah, I mean they
Speaker 1: they they were not ready to work the way they
Speaker 1: needed to work offensively. Let me say one other thing
Speaker 1: about Anthony Edwards. Anthony edwards last ten playoff games demonsey
Speaker 1: zero thirty point games, thirty point games, His previous twelve
Speaker 1: playoff games before that eight thirty point games, four forty
Speaker 1: point games.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I don't think that's I don't think
Speaker 3: that's a sign of him taper it off or jumping
Speaker 3: off the deep end. That means it's just probably a
Speaker 3: thirty piece coming soon.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, but he needs to be more aggressive in
Speaker 1: driving to the basket on this Lakers team that is
Speaker 1: never in protection. And so listen, I think the Lakers
Speaker 1: are gonna win game I think the Lakers will win
Speaker 1: Game two or Game three, pardon me to go up
Speaker 1: to one, and I think it probably goes like this,
Speaker 1: Lakers win Game three, Timberwolves win Game four, Lakers win
Speaker 1: Game five at back in LA, and then the Lakers
Speaker 1: close them out in six in Minnesota. But I think
Speaker 1: it's two to two going back to LA. And so
Speaker 1: that's where that's where I think we're at right now,
Speaker 1: all right time now for one of our favorite things
Speaker 1: we do every year, Nick Wright, GM consultant.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, so, after finishing among the top Monck Drafters
Speaker 3: last year, NFL gms know that you, Nick right, are
Speaker 3: the secret.
Speaker 2: To nailing the draft once again.
Speaker 3: All thirty two teams have your number and on deck
Speaker 3: and to call you tonight in case they can't make
Speaker 3: a final decision. So in the extremely likely scenario that
Speaker 3: some of them call you to weigh in on their
Speaker 3: pick and get them right, you need some practice. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna play an NFL GM calling you with a dilemma
Speaker 3: and you've basically got sixty seconds to convince me what
Speaker 3: I should do.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So demanse if I have this right,
Speaker 1: is going to play different gms for different teams. The
Speaker 1: first one, well, demonte's just gonna tell us and I
Speaker 1: am playing myself. Easy role for me. Ronda, Oh a lot?
Speaker 1: Where it is?
Speaker 3: Take it away, Hey, Nick, it's the Jags GM James Gladstone.
Speaker 3: We're picking an offensive player to help restore the Prince's throne.
Speaker 3: Will Campbell is off the board. Do we draft a
Speaker 3: weapon for Trevor Lawrence or do we draft someone to
Speaker 3: protect Trevor Lawrence? Sixty seconds go?
Speaker 1: All right, So if you're listen, if you're dead set
Speaker 1: on an offensive player, then this is an easy pick.
Speaker 1: You don't need to draft Membo. Probably it's not that
Speaker 1: it's too high for him. But you at the fifth pick,
Speaker 1: you want to be able to say you got the
Speaker 1: best player at a position. This is not a wide
Speaker 1: receiver draft. You had Brian Thomas Junior last year. I
Speaker 1: thought you guys would go defense here, potentially Mason Graham
Speaker 1: out of Michigan. But if you're going offense, there's no
Speaker 1: question who you take. You take Ashton Genty. You take
Speaker 1: Ashton Gent at number five. You then also call teams
Speaker 1: like say the Dallas Cowboys, and see if they want
Speaker 1: to give you a mid round pick for Travis Attn
Speaker 1: get more draft capital. But the answer is you take
Speaker 1: Ashton gent if that if you're dead set on offense,
Speaker 1: that one was easy. I mean again, I think they're
Speaker 1: probably gonna go defense. But that one's easy. All right?
Speaker 1: Who's next to Monsay?
Speaker 3: It's Saints GM Mickey Loomis, Hey, don't say it, man,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna fix the cap eventually. Ca Whart cam Ward
Speaker 3: is the only quarterback taken, so we can pick the
Speaker 3: future face of our team. But the Giants are calling
Speaker 3: with a great offer to trade back in the round one.
Speaker 3: We don't really know what's going on with Carr, so
Speaker 3: now it could be the time to take our cap
Speaker 3: medicine and retool for next year. Do we trade the
Speaker 3: pick to New York or do we draft a quarterback?
Speaker 2: Sixty seconds?
Speaker 1: Oh, this is very easy. You trade the pick to
Speaker 1: New York. However, you really need to squeeze Joe Shane.
Speaker 1: Joe Shane is terrified he's losing his job. Joe Shane,
Speaker 1: because of that, is does not care so much about
Speaker 1: future draft capital because he thinks it might not be
Speaker 1: his to deal with. So what you need to do
Speaker 1: is hang up on New York and tell them hold on,
Speaker 1: you're getting another call. You gotta call him back, and
Speaker 1: then you need to call him and say, wow, we
Speaker 1: just got an unbelievable offer for number nine. So what
Speaker 1: we're gonna need is we're gonna need your second this year.
Speaker 1: That's obvious. But we're also gonna need your first round
Speaker 1: pick next year, your third round pick next year, and
Speaker 1: a fifth this year. That's what you're gonna need. And
Speaker 1: Joe Shane, you know what he's gonna say. He's gonna
Speaker 1: say yes, trade back, squeeze him. Take advantage of the
Speaker 1: desperate guy. He doesn't want to take his kids out
Speaker 1: of private school, he doesn't want to have to move.
Speaker 1: Take advantage if you're gonna do that, and you'd be
Speaker 1: moving down twenty five spots. Mickey, all right, who's next
Speaker 1: to Monsay?
Speaker 3: Hey, Nick, it's Mike Tomlin with Pittsburgh. Our GM has
Speaker 3: given me the final decision. Ward is still the only
Speaker 3: quarterback off the board, so we can finally go with
Speaker 3: other options. However, Rogers just called, begging us not to
Speaker 3: take a quarterback and sign him instead. Do we draft
Speaker 3: a quarterback or do we sign Aaron Rodgers? Sixty seconds?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, what you should tell Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 1: that you know respectfully and you appreciate him and no
Speaker 1: hard feelings, but you can't work on his timeline. He'll understand.
Speaker 1: It's what he told you guys already. I don't love
Speaker 1: Shador however, at one and with the potential upside and
Speaker 1: with the fact that the Steelers are the one team
Speaker 1: that can I think deal with the potential. Is Dion
Speaker 1: gonna be the head coach noise better than anybody were
Speaker 1: without it affecting their head coach because of Tom Because
Speaker 1: you're there, Mike Tomlin, I think you tell Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: to kick rocks uh. And I think you draft Shot
Speaker 1: or Sanders and you try to move on to the
Speaker 1: next iteration of Steelers football. That's what I would do, Mike. Okay,
Speaker 1: you like that one. I also don't think you know
Speaker 1: how to use that phone, Mike. I think that's too
Speaker 1: old time you have a phone. I think you were
Speaker 1: talking into the receiver. I think the whole thing all right, Who's.
Speaker 3: Next, Nick is Brandon Beam from the Bills.
Speaker 2: Don't hang up, please, You're the best in the business
Speaker 2: and we need you. Man.
Speaker 3: We can go in any direction here at thirty or
Speaker 3: even trade back. What do we need to beat your
Speaker 3: Chiefs sixty seconds ago.
Speaker 1: All right, what I would recommend you do, Brandon Bean
Speaker 1: in this draft. This is a real this is the
Speaker 1: real advice. In this draft. There is not a huge
Speaker 1: difference between players that are going to be taking at
Speaker 1: twenty and at forty. So you need to call up
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and tell them, hey, man, heads up,
Speaker 1: we're getting a lot of calls teams that want to
Speaker 1: move into our spot to get what's going on here.
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, we're getting a called. Your Chiefs are
Speaker 3: trying to trade up. Tell us what they're planning to do,
Speaker 3: and if we should twelve for this trap again?
Speaker 2: You know they've got.
Speaker 1: Okay obviously, Brandon Bean, hang up on the Chiefs. Just
Speaker 1: hang up on the Chiefs, Brandon. But yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: You don't do business with the Chiefs. What you need
Speaker 1: to do is call the Browns and get them. Tell
Speaker 1: them someone's trying to move up to get Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1: You know they need a quarterback. Get an extra pick
Speaker 1: from the Browns, move back four spots. That's what you
Speaker 1: need to do. Now. Sadly, that does probably mean the
Speaker 1: Chiefs will end up taking the player you wanted. After
Speaker 1: you move back, But it's the prudent move that's what
Speaker 1: you need to do. Great job, great job, Brandon Bean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no problem. So I enjoyed that game. I enjoy that
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Speaker 2: Here, Curtis is demonsee.
Speaker 3: If you could add either You'll catch or Yiannis to
Speaker 3: the Lakers, who would it be.
Speaker 1: And why.
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 1: What's your answer?
Speaker 3: My answer would be honest, Yeah, you'll catch on that team.
Speaker 3: It's like a bunch of like savants on the same team.
Speaker 3: No athleticism.
Speaker 2: Well, need to put YadA on the athletics.
Speaker 1: Seems a little harsh Lebron James on the team. But uh,
Speaker 1: the answer is janis the answers Yiannis without question, and
Speaker 1: it's for the defense and for all of it. But
Speaker 1: they obviously, listen the Lakers. Giannis could be on the
Speaker 1: move this summer. Yeah, but the Lakers wouldn't be involved
Speaker 1: in that. But the answer for what the Lakers need
Speaker 1: to be honest. Uh. The all right?
Speaker 3: Next, Ronnie asked Nick, were you as disgusted as I
Speaker 3: that Lebron finished seventh and clutch Player of the Year?
Speaker 1: Right? Listen, I listen. The fact that only one of
Speaker 1: the one hundred voters voted him first is just such
Speaker 1: a joke. It's not worth getting bent out of shapeover.
Speaker 1: But it's just it's a farce. So yeah, there, I
Speaker 1: mean I thought he I thought he should have won it,
Speaker 1: but it certainly shouldn't have been the runaway that it was,
Speaker 1: and it shouldn't have been that he you know, came
Speaker 1: in seventh.
Speaker 3: But go ahead, Liam ass is the goat, the best ever?
Speaker 3: Is the goat the best ever player of the best
Speaker 3: ever career. Uh find it weird how people chop and
Speaker 3: change between definitions without clearly stating it.
Speaker 1: Well, I you know you're correct there that it's kind
Speaker 1: of a it depends on what you value. I guess now.
Speaker 1: I happen to think that in the NF in the NBA,
Speaker 1: they're the same. It's the same guy. I think the
Speaker 1: best player ever is Lebron James, and I think he's
Speaker 1: had the best career ever. I think that that is
Speaker 1: not always like in football, the best career ever is
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. But if Patrick Mahomes, you know, has three
Speaker 1: more years at this level, he won't have the career
Speaker 1: as Brady, but he'll be the best player ever. And
Speaker 1: so you know, and so those are It depends on
Speaker 1: what you want. I think it's nice and clean. How
Speaker 1: in basketball it's the same guy. And here's the other thing.
Speaker 1: On the basketball goat debate, you can argue that Jordan
Speaker 1: was the best player. You can't argue he had the
Speaker 1: best career. You can argue Lebron was the best player,
Speaker 1: and he very clearly has had the best career. But
Speaker 1: we don't have to do that right now, all right? Next?
Speaker 3: Uh Scott as how many O line guys to the
Speaker 3: Chiefs draft? Over under two and a half? I think
Speaker 3: it should be over. What do you think?
Speaker 1: Oh? My guess is it's probably two. So I would
Speaker 1: take slight under, but a lot of those late round picks,
Speaker 1: it just sees how it falls. All right.
Speaker 3: Next, Jay, For the teams that are uncertain at quarterback
Speaker 3: or are spending too much money on them, like the
Speaker 3: Dolphins and the Niners, should they have been should they
Speaker 3: have been in on getting in developing Joe Milton?
Speaker 1: Uh? I would have thought the Dolphins with Joe Milton
Speaker 1: would be more interesting than the Cowboys when they have
Speaker 1: Dak there. I don't understand the Cowboys fascination and trading
Speaker 1: mid round picks for guys that they hope to never play.
Speaker 1: They did it with Trey Lance and then they did
Speaker 1: it with Joe Milton. All right, enjoy the draft tonight again. Reminder,
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