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Speaker 1: Welcome in What'll Drive in the Great Episode three twenty

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Speaker 1: four on NFL Draft Day. Now, obviously we're in the

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Speaker 1: middle of an amazing first round of the NBA Playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Every series in the West tied at one game a piece,

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Speaker 1: except for the series in the West that really doesn't

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Speaker 1: need to be happening in the Thunder and the Grizzlies

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference series Nicks Pistons good. The other ones probably not,

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Speaker 1: but we can get to them as well. However, today

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Speaker 1: is really an NFL day, and I think the NBA

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Speaker 1: did as good of a job as it could have

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Speaker 1: with setting up tonight's schedule, acknowledging that, yeah, people are

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Speaker 1: going to be focused on the NFL by putting the

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Speaker 1: by choosing the games and the time of those games

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Speaker 1: that they did. I if you don't know the NBA

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Speaker 1: schedule tonight, Nick Pistons at seven o'clock, that's a good one,

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Speaker 1: you know. I maybe wish that was yesterday if it

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Speaker 1: nine thirty, totally irrelevant, and then Nuggets Clippers at ten.

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Speaker 1: Now it's weird that Nuggets Clippers is an NBA TV

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Speaker 1: game and thunder Grizzlies is the T and T game,

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Speaker 1: but set that aside. The what that will allow for

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Speaker 1: is the NFL Draft to end. And you if you're

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Speaker 1: a single screening and which you know, why would you

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Speaker 1: do that unless you're obligated to. But if you are,

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Speaker 1: you can then flip over to the end of what

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Speaker 1: has been an awesome series in Nuggets Clippers. Also, by

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Speaker 1: the way, a little self promotion here. We are doing

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Speaker 1: something incredibly ambitious and what should be hopefully fingers crossed

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Speaker 1: We've never done anything quite like it. It is going

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Speaker 1: to be potentially difficult to pull off. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to spoil what it is, but if you're a fan

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Speaker 1: of First Things First, or even just an occasional viewer,

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Speaker 1: this is one that I would ask you to watch

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Speaker 1: at three o'clock and see if you stick around for

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Speaker 1: the whole show, because it's not gonna be I don't

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Speaker 1: think consuming it in clip form is going to do justice.

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Speaker 1: What we're doing today in relation to the NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: seemed like I got Demand's interest pequed there. Demand's a

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Speaker 2: I'm watching throughout the week ye.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, so that should be good demonse. Great

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Speaker 1: to see you, ton to do today. Also, by the way,

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Speaker 1: the five stars does help. But here's why it's a

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Speaker 1: good time of year. We've done a pod every day

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Speaker 1: this week because we have been the way the NBA

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Speaker 1: playoffs been going, we've been reacting to it. We might

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Speaker 1: do the rare weekend pod depending on how Lakers, Timberwolves

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Speaker 1: And so you'll get the update if we go live,

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Speaker 1: or you'll get the update when we're on the air

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Speaker 1: if you're subscribed. But let's get to the show. Here's

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Speaker 1: what missed the cut. Jalen Brunson wins Clutch Player of

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Speaker 1: the Year. Lebron should have Oh, I didn't know this.

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Speaker 1: The ufcason Kansas City this weekend. I had no idea

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Speaker 1: and the Cavs win Game two against the Heat in

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Speaker 1: a game that had moments of Oh wait, are the

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Speaker 1: that game, a hilarious Kenny Atkinson challenge after Tyler hero

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Speaker 1: that's what missed the cut Demons. Before we get to

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Speaker 1: the draft. Huge game in Houston last night in your

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Speaker 3: Rockets got the dub against a somewhat depleted Warriors team

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Speaker 3: last night. Jimmy Butler obviously went down. I think Pods

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Speaker 3: was dealing with a stomach flu thing. You called this

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Speaker 1: So I think the Rockets, even if Jimmy Butler didn't

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Speaker 2: I did not. I didn't think it was dirty. I

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Speaker 3: Daniel said he might have gotten pushed a little bit

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Speaker 1: Uh, I didn't think it was dirty either. I think, listen,

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Speaker 1: this was Amon Thompson. But that to me was not

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Speaker 1: an intentional undercut. It was unfortunate undercut. And that was

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Speaker 1: a hard damn fall for Jimmy Butler. And obviously I

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Speaker 1: can't prove that even if Jimmy played, the Rockets were

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Speaker 1: Jaialen Green, the reason the Rockets won that game was

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Speaker 1: because Jalen Green had one of the best games of

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Speaker 1: angst is why hasn't he gotten better? You know what

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Speaker 1: But you'd like to see him become a better shooter.

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Speaker 1: You'd like to see him, you know, the game evolve

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they they did put Kaminga in there. It was listen,

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Speaker 1: what does this mean for the series. I thought the

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Speaker 1: Jimmy misses both games in Golden State. Now, you're probably

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago with a fifty point game. Now,

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Speaker 1: that was a very different team. That was a team

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Speaker 1: think for Golden State. Fred van Vliet can't be worse.

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Speaker 1: Fred van Vliet in this series is six for twenty

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Speaker 1: And now Jalen Green. Yesterday was such a huge game

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Yes, not Tatum, no problem. Took care of business last night.

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Speaker 2: I think that's important.

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Speaker 3: I think that it's just if that's what because I

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Speaker 2: You saw what they looked.

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Speaker 3: Like against Orlando Magic last night without Jason Tatum. If

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Speaker 3: There was no part of me that wanted the Magic

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Speaker 3: He was probably enjoying. I don't want to say enjoying

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Speaker 1: You can rep the Jason Tatum is underrated. If he's

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Speaker 1: if they win the Chancechampionship this year, and he's four

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Speaker 1: time first Team All NBA, two time champion, best player

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Speaker 1: on the team both years, all before he turns twenty eight,

433
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: we need to start putting him in some real historical conversations.

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Speaker 1: You can have that lane or you can have the

435
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: There is not another team in the league who's third

436
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: best player would even start for the Celtics. And you

437
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: know we have the best roster and we have the

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Speaker 1: sixth man of the year and our seventh man's Al Horford.

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Speaker 1: And where I give Wilds a hard time is I

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00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: tell him, I'm like, you're trying to argue both cases.

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00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: Tatum's wildly disrespected and the roster is perfect. Like the

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00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: second thing there leads to the first because people have

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Speaker 1: so much respect. So I try to tell Wilds, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you're if you really are all in on Tatum being

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00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 1: an all time right, you actually low key need to

446
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: be like Drew Holiday overrated, like the like the you

447
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: need to like right, you need to like poke some

448
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: holes in the Who was Kris STAPs for zingis really

449
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: before Jay? He got to play with Jason Tatum like

450
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: and so Chris STAPs By the way, this Celtics team

451
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Speaker 1: the reminder for how scary the Celtics can be, or

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Speaker 1: the thing you not the reminder. The thing you have

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00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: to remember for how scary the Celtics can be is

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Speaker 1: that they went on that run last year getting almost

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Speaker 1: nothing from Chris STAPs throughout the playoffs that he got

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Speaker 1: hurt in round one and didn't play, you know, in

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Speaker 1: he was like the second round or the third round

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Speaker 1: and then had the say it again, Starry, he.

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Speaker 2: Was just like Game one of the finals and then

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Speaker 2: he was gone.

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Speaker 1: Correct. No, so he played game one and two and

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Speaker 1: then a little in game five, So you've got it right.

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Speaker 1: Game one was the game he checked in and couldn't miss. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they and they went on basically that playoff run

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Speaker 1: getting nothing from him, and that's unfair because he it

466
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: was awesome in that Game one. But he is such

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Speaker 1: a X factor for them, indifference maker. And so yeah, listen,

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00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: Celtics are really scary, and I think this, I think

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Speaker 1: the Celtics. I think the best sign of how much

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Speaker 1: people respect the Celtics is how little respect we are

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Speaker 1: giving to the Cavs. And by that I mean, like

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Speaker 1: nobody is even though the Calves won sixty four games,

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Speaker 1: you know, they are very well rounded team. All they

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Speaker 1: would have home court advantage over the Celtics in the

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Speaker 1: conference finals. I haven't heard anybody be like, ooh, how

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Speaker 1: do the Thunder or the Clippers or the Lakers or

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Speaker 1: the Warriors match up against the Calves in the finals.

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Speaker 1: Everyone is just like, how does everyone match up against Boston?

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00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: And so I, so I the Celtics are And that

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00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: was a great win yesterday because Orlando. Listen, Orlando scores

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Speaker 1: one hundred points. That's that's a big deal for them,

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Speaker 1: and so it's they got to one hundred. And for

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Speaker 1: the Celtics to be able to get to one o

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Speaker 1: nine against that defense without without Tatum being involved, really impressive.

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Speaker 1: What's our follow up here?

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Speaker 3: What does Polo need to make the to make the

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Speaker 3: Leite next year? Like the same type of leap that

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Speaker 3: k did this year.

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Speaker 1: It's just got to I mean, just got to become

490
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: a better three point shooter. That's really it does everything.

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00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 1: Palo's gotten better every single year. His Rebounding's gone up

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00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: every year. His assists jumped in year two, dropped a

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00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: little this year.

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Speaker 2: It's fine.

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Speaker 1: His scoring from twenty twenty to twenty two to twenty six.

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00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: His efficiency is forty five percent shooter thirty two percent

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Speaker 1: from three. If all, if you can just get that

498
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: to thirty six percent from three, then you're twenty eight

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Speaker 1: a game. Then you're like that It just adds another element.

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Speaker 1: So that's really it. I think Palo's excellent. Now. I

501
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: said yesterday on the show that I think he's you know,

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Speaker 1: his destiny is probably best player on a good team,

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00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: second best player on a championship caliber team, Like I

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00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: don't know that he can jump that fi that final

505
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: level to rump is damn hard and so I but

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Speaker 1: I'm really impressed by Pellow. I like him a lot.

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Speaker 1: I like him a lot. All right, let's do a

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00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: couple quick previews before we get to our draft stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, see, you said this Nuggets Clippers series is going

510
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: to be super tightly contested and just gonna be a

511
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: great series overall. Kawhi is obviously coming off the really

512
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: good game the other day. These teams played a night

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Speaker 3: in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: Who do you have.

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Speaker 1: Tonight? I do like the Clippers. I picked Nuggets in seven,

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00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: so my I think it goes back to Denver to two.

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Speaker 1: But I am very curious what the Intoit Dome is

518
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Speaker 1: gonna be like. And I'm curious. I'm looking it up

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Speaker 1: right now with our friends at seat Geek. Code right

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Speaker 1: ten get ten percent off for free plug. I guess

521
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: not a free plug, but regardless, I'm curious what what

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Speaker 1: tickets are like at the end of it Dome compared

523
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Speaker 1: to at Staples. The okay, so they are no, they

524
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: are much cheaper, but the I just kind of feel

525
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Speaker 1: like sitting in that now you there are no seats

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Speaker 1: available in the wall. The wall is the wall. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's just for season ticket whatever it is, but there's uh.

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Speaker 1: I'm really that was a great job by Bomber. Those

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Speaker 1: were you know, he his his foresight on build this arena,

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Speaker 1: give us a real home court. I think was was

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00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: really smart and it's paid off. And listen, they bet

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Speaker 1: on the fact that Harden was gonna be worth the

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Speaker 1: contract they gave him and that Kawhi wasn't cooked, and

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00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: throughout the majority of this year I thought it was

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00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: a bad bet because Kawhi missed like the first thirty games,

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Speaker 1: and then when he came back, he was a twenty

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Speaker 1: point a game guy, if that I think seventeen point

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00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: a game guy. But now since March first, he's been unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: And I am you know, Michael Porter Junior saying he

540
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: has the shoulder sprain. That one concerns me a bit,

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Speaker 1: and I just think this is hard fought series where

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Speaker 1: I expect, I'm it's not yet late enough in the

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Speaker 1: series for me to just really bank on James Harden

544
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Speaker 1: having a playoff James Harden moment. I think that he'll

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine today. I do worry that

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Speaker 1: if Michael Porter Junior's banged up, it's gonna be a

547
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: lot of Russell Westbrook, and I think that is potentially

548
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Speaker 1: for Denver. But I think Jokers a little worn down

549
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: and I think I do like the Clippers tonight. What

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00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: follow ups do we.

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Speaker 3: Have with how you've hyped up the series. If Jokich

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Speaker 3: ended up losing this round to the Clippers, would it

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Speaker 3: be a huge knock on him in your book?

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Speaker 1: No, I do not think it would be a huge

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00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: knock on him. What I do think is this. I

556
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: think that going out last year in Round two to

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00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: a team that was not a championship caliber team and

558
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: blowing that game seven lead at home, and then if

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Speaker 1: they were to go out this year in round one

560
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: in a series they had a home court advantage, where

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Speaker 1: Game two you can say part of the reason they

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Speaker 1: lost was because jokicch didn't play very well. What I

563
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: think is it could depending on what happens with the

564
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: rest of the playoffs open the door for the best

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Speaker 1: player or alive conversation to start up again, like Jokich

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00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: has sealed that door shut where it is just consensus

567
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: clear he's the best player in the league. You have

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Speaker 1: a you have back to back early playoff exits against

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Speaker 1: team now, especially if the Clippers then get popped in

570
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Speaker 1: round two. Like that's the other thing. It's one thing,

571
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: we got a tough draw. We played the champs in

572
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Speaker 1: round one last year. You didn't have a tough draw.

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Speaker 1: You played Minnesota who lost to the team that then

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00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: lost to the team. If you you know, if you

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Speaker 1: lose to the Clippers and they go on to win

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00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: the championship, that's one thing. You lose the Clippers and

577
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: they end up getting waxed in round two, in five

578
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: or six at something else. It also matters how well

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Speaker 1: you play, Like Joker was good in Game one, and

580
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: I thought was not good in Game two, and I

581
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: thought the foulbating was bad, the flopping the turnovers. Now

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00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: he should again. I still think the Nuggets are gonna

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Speaker 1: win this series, and I'm not gonna kill him if

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00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: they lose it. But I do think that it could

585
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: reopen the door on that conversation, just like Giannis having

586
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: a tough round two loss followed by a round one

587
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: loss opened the door and Joker stormed through it. Now

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00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,479
Speaker 1: who would storm through it? Am I really gonna say

589
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: Shay is the best player in the world? Probably not

590
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: like I just probably like I gotta see what happened,

591
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: But that do I actually think in my bones Shade

592
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: is better than Joker? I don't Could Luca storm through

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00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: it if they win the tie? Demonty Schikan said, what

594
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: do the Lakers win the title? Lakers win the title? Luca?

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00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: Could Luca could have a claim to it?

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00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: Uh could Tatum? Could Tatum be like? What about me?

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00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 2: Like, yes, Tato, Luca and.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Okay Aunt? Sure if they were to win the tie,

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Speaker 1: I got his affairs fair. Yes, if the Timbrelves were

601
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: to win the title, then Aunt would probably have to

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Speaker 1: be the best player in the world for them to

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Speaker 1: do it, because I don't think they have a championship

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00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: caliber roster. I mean to that note, I guess Kate

605
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: Cunningham like this win. I just give it to him.

606
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: So again, I'm not even saying he would lose the title.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying the door would be open a like,

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00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: and people you would now be allowed to submit names

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00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: for consideration, so to speak. Also, Daniel, you can tell

610
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: me in the chat what's up with your interim coach

611
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: whining about the Clippers piping and crowd noise. You guys,

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00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear anything from Nuggets folks complaining

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00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: about unfair home court advantage when you guys get to

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00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: play on the moon.

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00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 2: You, I mean, it's fair enough, actually fair.

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00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: Enough, Daniel saying, learn to breathe, I mean, give me

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00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: a break. Um, all right, let's quickly get to these

618
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: other previews before we get to the draft stuff.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, the Knicks are coming off that upset in

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00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: Game two against Detroit the other day a few days ago,

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Speaker 3: I should say, So they're back tonight, They're playing in Detroit.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be Detroit's first playoff home game since twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: How nervous should Nicks fans be right now?

624
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Speaker 1: Nervous Like I have overreacted to every game of this series,

625
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: to be fair, But now I think the Knicks just

626
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: have to feel like, let's just get it, let's just

627
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: be two to two, coming back to New York, like,

628
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: just find a way to get a split. And because

629
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Speaker 1: right now it's fair to say they have been out

630
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: played for seven of the eight quarters in this series,

631
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Speaker 1: that they had the one amazing rally twenty one to

632
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: nothing run, an all time run in the fourth quarter

633
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: of Game one, and I just I know this is

634
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: not breaking news to anyone, but you just worry, are

635
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: these guys gonna wear down a bit the where Let

636
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: me let me just pull it up real quick with

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00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: the minutes that these guys are already playing. Now. I

638
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: understand their young guys, I get it. I understand that

639
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: Tibbs doesn't want to hear it. And you can argue

640
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: Tibbs basically calloused them by how he plays them in

641
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: the regular season. I get all that. But when you

642
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:24,479
Speaker 1: are Jalen Brunson has played eight forty two minutes per game,

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00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: OG has played forty four minutes per game. I you know,

644
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Speaker 1: Josh Hart, Karl Anthony Towns, and Michale Bridges all at

645
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: thirty five minutes per game. Gotta feel fresh, and so

646
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 1: you try to see if you can get a little

647
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: more out of Mitchell Robinson. I've never been a campaign guy.

648
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: He did play well in that first game, and the

649
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: Pistons just right now do feel deeper. The Knicks are

650
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: more talented, but the Pistons deeper.

651
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: Well, you can't have that mindset like, let's leave it,

652
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 3: let's get back to New York too too. I think

653
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: you got to go in there and show him his boss.

654
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: Oh you're saying, you're saying get back to New York

655
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: three to one. And what I'm saying is what I'm

656
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: saying is you got to be careful. You don't go

657
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: back to New York one three. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

658
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: Like I and again I have totally overreacted. I'm not

659
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: giving great analysis on this series. I will be honest

660
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: with you. I'm being emotional about it. I think it's

661
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: part of going to the game and bet live, betting

662
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: the game and still feeling a little bitten by it.

663
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: All right, let's do a few follow ups here.

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00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you expect a pretty similar foul baity type

665
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 3: of game from Brunson.

666
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just how he plays correct. He's an excellent player,

667
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: but he's got some Jabbroni elements to his game. And

668
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: now listen, maybe that's what he has to do. Because

669
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: of his size and he is skilled at it. But

670
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: fair is fair. I didn't like I don't like Trey

671
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: Young doing it. I don't like him doing it. I

672
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: like Jalen, I like his dad a lot. I you know,

673
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: I think he's your mom at this point, one of

674
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: her three or four favorite players in the league. You know,

675
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: your mom just now claims she's a Knicks fan. Wow,

676
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: she's like, I live here, I love going to Sorry,

677
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: I just rolled over right here sal you guys, how

678
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: good of a boy is he being? Though you guys

679
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: didn't even know he was here.

680
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, right and right by you too? At that none

681
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: of that.

682
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, buddy, but uh the no. So, yeah, your

683
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: mom's a Knicks fan, now, all right?

684
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 2: That's fair.

685
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 3: I feel like that's it because when we were living

686
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 3: in Houston, I feel like she was she was a

687
00:43:59,000 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: Rockets fan.

688
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: So she's yeah, just adopts the team of where she's at.

689
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: Uh and listen, I would I want the Knicks to

690
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: win this series. I really want to be able to

691
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: go to Nick Celtics in the garden. I think that

692
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: would be a ton of fun. But I fair is fair.

693
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: Like Brunton is flopping all around the place and in

694
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: ways that I don't really love. All right, do we

695
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: have anything else on the series?

696
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

697
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: So is Detroit playing with house money here or do

698
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: you think that they still have something to prove?

699
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 1: Both they are playing with house money, but I think

700
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: that they are like, this was a good season, a

701
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: great season already, no matter what. But I think at

702
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: this point they're like, hey, we can win, like it'd be.

703
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: It's it. It's one thing if you get if you're

704
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: not supposed to, you had no expectation going into the season,

705
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: you overachieve, you get to the playoffs and it's like, okay,

706
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: we're out classed, you know what I mean. But a

707
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: good year. But now, but that's not what's happened. Now

708
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: they're like, we're not only are we in this, maybe

709
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: we're better, Maybe we have the best player on the

710
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: court in kid, we're the deeper team, you know all

711
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: of that, And so that is that's where they're at.

712
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: And then also, I don't you can ask this last

713
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: follow up, I don't remember this story. So I don't.

714
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 2: Are you scared of Knicks fans coming up to you

715
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: in the boldhega again?

716
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: After I don't, I'm sure that happened. I don't remember

717
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: talking about it. That is, Oh wow, they got me

718
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: with the hot cheetos and not to No, that's not

719
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: brew that's Jim Dole' that's the owner of the Knicks.

720
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: That's super funny that you thought that was Brue just

721
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: because of the color of the hair and the goateate. No,

722
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: that's the owner of the Knicks. That's super funny. It's

723
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: a reason to watch this on YouTube. All right, let's

724
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: Dottle Lakers Timbrels befo where you get to the draft. Uh.

725
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, So thanks to their defense, the Lakers evened up

726
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: that series the other day.

727
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 2: So they're playing on Friday, and JJ Reddick might have

728
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: schemed some nice stuff here.

729
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: And I said after the game the defense was confusing

730
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: in something he hadn't seen.

731
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: So you talked yesterday on You talked yesterday on an.

732
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 3: Emergency pod and said that Lebron would be whatever the

733
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 3: Lakers needed to be.

734
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 2: What do you think that's gonna be tomorrow?

735
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: Uh, it's probably gonna have to score a little more

736
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: uh than he did in Game one or Game two,

737
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: but I think mostly and by score a little more,

738
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: it really just means hit a couple more hit a

739
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: couple open shots. Lebron is I eighteen for his last

740
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: sixty eight from three? I think and so and that

741
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: is you. You guys have heard me say this one

742
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: hundred times. I'll say it again. Lebron never shoots his

743
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: average from three. And by that, I mean if he

744
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: shot thirty eight percent this year, You're not gonna find

745
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: a month he shot thirty eight percent. You're gonna find

746
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: a months where he shot forty five percent, and then

747
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: months where he shot twenty seven percent. And it evens out.

748
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: He goes hot on these hot and cold streaks from three.

749
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: Right now, he's on a cold streak. But I think

750
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: him being the head of the Snake defensively is what

751
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: they need from him, what they The guy who I

752
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: actually think they need more from offensively is Austin Reeves.

753
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: Luke has been awesome man and Luca Game two, Like

754
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: you all, you've got to adjust your eyes to what

755
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: some of these stat lines mean within the context of

756
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: the game. So Luca in game two having thirty one,

757
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: twelve and nine in a game that the team scores

758
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: ninety four points, responsible for seven rights in the points, right,

759
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: it's just remarkable. So It's just like Steph in game

760
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: one scoring thirty one when they scored ninety five, Kawhi

761
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: in game two scoring thirty nine when they only score

762
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: one to Ozh five. Those are big time numbers, like

763
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: big outputs. I've said for I've said for years that

764
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: I think and this is part of his legend, and

765
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: it's a deserved part of his legend that I think

766
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: the greatest game Michael Jordan ever played was his final

767
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: game with the Chicago Bulls. Uh. And that game, you

768
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: see he scored. He was fifteen of thirty five from

769
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: the field, so that was not he was hyper efficient,

770
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: but Michael Jordan in that game, and again the stat

771
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: line's funny because it was forty five points, one rebound,

772
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: one assist. But the reason I think that was the

773
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: greatest game of his career was he scored forty five points,

774
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: his team scored eighty seven, so like that, you know,

775
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: and it was to win a championship, and he knew

776
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: it was his final game. Just a remarkable performance, so

777
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: you gotta always It's also why I thought people were

778
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: a little too critical of the statline Lebron had offensively

779
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: in Game two, twenty one to eleven and seven, they

780
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: scored ninety four, and so I'm good with that. I

781
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: also think Anthony Edwards was a little too honest. It's like, man,

782
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: they had me frasfled, haven't. I haven't seen that, and

783
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: so I'm really people upset. You know, typically role players

784
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 1: play better at home. I'm curious the level of pressure

785
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: or anxiety the Timberwolves feel going into this Game three

786
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: where they laid down to but yeah, I mean they

787
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: they they were not ready to work the way they

788
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: needed to work offensively. Let me say one other thing

789
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: about Anthony Edwards. Anthony edwards last ten playoff games demonsey

790
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: zero thirty point games, thirty point games, His previous twelve

791
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: playoff games before that eight thirty point games, four forty

792
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: point games.

793
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I don't think that's I don't think

794
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 3: that's a sign of him taper it off or jumping

795
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 3: off the deep end. That means it's just probably a

796
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 3: thirty piece coming soon.

797
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, but he needs to be more aggressive in

798
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: driving to the basket on this Lakers team that is

799
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: never in protection. And so listen, I think the Lakers

800
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: are gonna win game I think the Lakers will win

801
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: Game two or Game three, pardon me to go up

802
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 1: to one, and I think it probably goes like this,

803
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: Lakers win Game three, Timberwolves win Game four, Lakers win

804
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: Game five at back in LA, and then the Lakers

805
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: close them out in six in Minnesota. But I think

806
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: it's two to two going back to LA. And so

807
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: that's where that's where I think we're at right now,

808
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: all right time now for one of our favorite things

809
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: we do every year, Nick Wright, GM consultant.

810
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, so, after finishing among the top Monck Drafters

811
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 3: last year, NFL gms know that you, Nick right, are

812
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 3: the secret.

813
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: To nailing the draft once again.

814
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 3: All thirty two teams have your number and on deck

815
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 3: and to call you tonight in case they can't make

816
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 3: a final decision. So in the extremely likely scenario that

817
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 3: some of them call you to weigh in on their

818
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 3: pick and get them right, you need some practice. I'm

819
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 3: gonna play an NFL GM calling you with a dilemma

820
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 3: and you've basically got sixty seconds to convince me what

821
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 3: I should do.

822
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So demanse if I have this right,

823
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: is going to play different gms for different teams. The

824
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: first one, well, demonte's just gonna tell us and I

825
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: am playing myself. Easy role for me. Ronda, Oh a lot?

826
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: Where it is?

827
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 3: Take it away, Hey, Nick, it's the Jags GM James Gladstone.

828
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 3: We're picking an offensive player to help restore the Prince's throne.

829
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 3: Will Campbell is off the board. Do we draft a

830
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: weapon for Trevor Lawrence or do we draft someone to

831
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 3: protect Trevor Lawrence? Sixty seconds go?

832
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 1: All right, So if you're listen, if you're dead set

833
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: on an offensive player, then this is an easy pick.

834
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: You don't need to draft Membo. Probably it's not that

835
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: it's too high for him. But you at the fifth pick,

836
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: you want to be able to say you got the

837
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: best player at a position. This is not a wide

838
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: receiver draft. You had Brian Thomas Junior last year. I

839
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: thought you guys would go defense here, potentially Mason Graham

840
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: out of Michigan. But if you're going offense, there's no

841
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: question who you take. You take Ashton Genty. You take

842
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: Ashton Gent at number five. You then also call teams

843
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: like say the Dallas Cowboys, and see if they want

844
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: to give you a mid round pick for Travis Attn

845
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: get more draft capital. But the answer is you take

846
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: Ashton gent if that if you're dead set on offense,

847
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: that one was easy. I mean again, I think they're

848
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: probably gonna go defense. But that one's easy. All right?

849
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: Who's next to Monsay?

850
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 3: It's Saints GM Mickey Loomis, Hey, don't say it, man,

851
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 3: I'm gonna fix the cap eventually. Ca Whart cam Ward

852
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: is the only quarterback taken, so we can pick the

853
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 3: future face of our team. But the Giants are calling

854
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 3: with a great offer to trade back in the round one.

855
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 3: We don't really know what's going on with Carr, so

856
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 3: now it could be the time to take our cap

857
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: medicine and retool for next year. Do we trade the

858
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 3: pick to New York or do we draft a quarterback?

859
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: Sixty seconds?

860
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: Oh, this is very easy. You trade the pick to

861
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 1: New York. However, you really need to squeeze Joe Shane.

862
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: Joe Shane is terrified he's losing his job. Joe Shane,

863
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: because of that, is does not care so much about

864
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: future draft capital because he thinks it might not be

865
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: his to deal with. So what you need to do

866
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: is hang up on New York and tell them hold on,

867
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: you're getting another call. You gotta call him back, and

868
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: then you need to call him and say, wow, we

869
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: just got an unbelievable offer for number nine. So what

870
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna need is we're gonna need your second this year.

871
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: That's obvious. But we're also gonna need your first round

872
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: pick next year, your third round pick next year, and

873
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: a fifth this year. That's what you're gonna need. And

874
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: Joe Shane, you know what he's gonna say. He's gonna

875
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: say yes, trade back, squeeze him. Take advantage of the

876
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: desperate guy. He doesn't want to take his kids out

877
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 1: of private school, he doesn't want to have to move.

878
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: Take advantage if you're gonna do that, and you'd be

879
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: moving down twenty five spots. Mickey, all right, who's next

880
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: to Monsay?

881
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 3: Hey, Nick, it's Mike Tomlin with Pittsburgh. Our GM has

882
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 3: given me the final decision. Ward is still the only

883
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 3: quarterback off the board, so we can finally go with

884
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 3: other options. However, Rogers just called, begging us not to

885
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: take a quarterback and sign him instead. Do we draft

886
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 3: a quarterback or do we sign Aaron Rodgers? Sixty seconds?

887
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: All right, Well, what you should tell Aaron Rodgers is

888
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: that you know respectfully and you appreciate him and no

889
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 1: hard feelings, but you can't work on his timeline. He'll understand.

890
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: It's what he told you guys already. I don't love

891
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: Shador however, at one and with the potential upside and

892
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: with the fact that the Steelers are the one team

893
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: that can I think deal with the potential. Is Dion

894
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: gonna be the head coach noise better than anybody were

895
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: without it affecting their head coach because of Tom Because

896
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: you're there, Mike Tomlin, I think you tell Aaron Rodgers

897
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: to kick rocks uh. And I think you draft Shot

898
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: or Sanders and you try to move on to the

899
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: next iteration of Steelers football. That's what I would do, Mike. Okay,

900
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: you like that one. I also don't think you know

901
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: how to use that phone, Mike. I think that's too

902
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: old time you have a phone. I think you were

903
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: talking into the receiver. I think the whole thing all right, Who's.

904
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 3: Next, Nick is Brandon Beam from the Bills.

905
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: Don't hang up, please, You're the best in the business

906
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: and we need you. Man.

907
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: We can go in any direction here at thirty or

908
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 3: even trade back. What do we need to beat your

909
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 3: Chiefs sixty seconds ago.

910
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: All right, what I would recommend you do, Brandon Bean

911
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: in this draft. This is a real this is the

912
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: real advice. In this draft. There is not a huge

913
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: difference between players that are going to be taking at

914
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: twenty and at forty. So you need to call up

915
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and tell them, hey, man, heads up,

916
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: we're getting a lot of calls teams that want to

917
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: move into our spot to get what's going on here.

918
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, we're getting a called. Your Chiefs are

919
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 3: trying to trade up. Tell us what they're planning to do,

920
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: and if we should twelve for this trap again?

921
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: You know they've got.

922
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: Okay obviously, Brandon Bean, hang up on the Chiefs. Just

923
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: hang up on the Chiefs, Brandon. But yeah, there you go.

924
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: You don't do business with the Chiefs. What you need

925
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: to do is call the Browns and get them. Tell

926
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: them someone's trying to move up to get Jackson Dart.

927
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: You know they need a quarterback. Get an extra pick

928
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: from the Browns, move back four spots. That's what you

929
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: need to do. Now. Sadly, that does probably mean the

930
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,959
Speaker 1: Chiefs will end up taking the player you wanted. After

931
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,480
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932
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: you need to do. Great job, great job, Brandon Bean. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Here, Curtis is demonsee.

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01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 3: If you could add either You'll catch or Yiannis to

971
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 3: the Lakers, who would it be.

972
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: And why.

973
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: Who?

974
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: What's your answer?

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01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 3: My answer would be honest, Yeah, you'll catch on that team.

976
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 3: It's like a bunch of like savants on the same team.

977
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 3: No athleticism.

978
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 2: Well, need to put YadA on the athletics.

979
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: Seems a little harsh Lebron James on the team. But uh,

980
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: the answer is janis the answers Yiannis without question, and

981
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: it's for the defense and for all of it. But

982
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: they obviously, listen the Lakers. Giannis could be on the

983
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: move this summer. Yeah, but the Lakers wouldn't be involved

984
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: in that. But the answer for what the Lakers need

985
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: to be honest. Uh. The all right?

986
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 3: Next, Ronnie asked Nick, were you as disgusted as I

987
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 3: that Lebron finished seventh and clutch Player of the Year?

988
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: Right? Listen, I listen. The fact that only one of

989
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: the one hundred voters voted him first is just such

990
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: a joke. It's not worth getting bent out of shapeover.

991
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: But it's just it's a farce. So yeah, there, I

992
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: mean I thought he I thought he should have won it,

993
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: but it certainly shouldn't have been the runaway that it was,

994
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: and it shouldn't have been that he you know, came

995
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: in seventh.

996
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:06,479
Speaker 3: But go ahead, Liam ass is the goat, the best ever?

997
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 3: Is the goat the best ever player of the best

998
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 3: ever career. Uh find it weird how people chop and

999
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 3: change between definitions without clearly stating it.

1000
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: Well, I you know you're correct there that it's kind

1001
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: of a it depends on what you value. I guess now.

1002
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: I happen to think that in the NF in the NBA,

1003
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: they're the same. It's the same guy. I think the

1004
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: best player ever is Lebron James, and I think he's

1005
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: had the best career ever. I think that that is

1006
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: not always like in football, the best career ever is

1007
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. But if Patrick Mahomes, you know, has three

1008
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: more years at this level, he won't have the career

1009
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: as Brady, but he'll be the best player ever. And

1010
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: so you know, and so those are It depends on

1011
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: what you want. I think it's nice and clean. How

1012
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: in basketball it's the same guy. And here's the other thing.

1013
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: On the basketball goat debate, you can argue that Jordan

1014
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: was the best player. You can't argue he had the

1015
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: best career. You can argue Lebron was the best player,

1016
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: and he very clearly has had the best career. But

1017
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: we don't have to do that right now, all right? Next?

1018
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 3: Uh Scott as how many O line guys to the

1019
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 3: Chiefs draft? Over under two and a half? I think

1020
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 3: it should be over. What do you think?

1021
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: Oh? My guess is it's probably two. So I would

1022
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: take slight under, but a lot of those late round picks,

1023
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: it just sees how it falls. All right.

1024
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 3: Next, Jay, For the teams that are uncertain at quarterback

1025
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 3: or are spending too much money on them, like the

1026
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 3: Dolphins and the Niners, should they have been should they

1027
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 3: have been in on getting in developing Joe Milton?

1028
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: Uh? I would have thought the Dolphins with Joe Milton

1029
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: would be more interesting than the Cowboys when they have

1030
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: Dak there. I don't understand the Cowboys fascination and trading

1031
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: mid round picks for guys that they hope to never play.

1032
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: They did it with Trey Lance and then they did

1033
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: it with Joe Milton. All right, enjoy the draft tonight again. Reminder,

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