WEBVTT - The Penalty Box

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<v Speaker 1>I got Well, I'm back, so we know his parenting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Peter McNerney. We're still in the airbnb. We're still

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<v Speaker 1>in the airbnb. How is How's what's your review of

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<v Speaker 1>this airbnb? This airbnb is great for what we needed

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<v Speaker 1>for but I am slowly going insane at not ever

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<v Speaker 1>being in my own home. Yeah, it was really great.

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<v Speaker 1>Post vacation. We have an empty house and nothing to do,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a sad place. We well, it's we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been our own home in over two weeks now, just

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<v Speaker 1>because of travel and bathroom renovation, and that makes me

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<v Speaker 1>feel insane, Like every once an hour I go to

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<v Speaker 1>look for something that would be convenient to my life, life,

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<v Speaker 1>my work, my health and hygiene, and that thing is

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<v Speaker 1>not there, and then I just feel like I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>being driven slowly mad. And also our children we're not

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<v Speaker 1>in school Britains and back in school until today, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's just been floating around, just ruining all activity, just

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<v Speaker 1>floating around. I mean, I'm so excited to get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of them, But do you feel like they've grown up

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand years in the last few weeks. Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>like real kids. We say this every month on the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast where like, oh my god, our kids are so huge,

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<v Speaker 1>but now we really mean it. Um, yeah, they're just

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<v Speaker 1>like kids, like they had like a kid Christmas. We

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<v Speaker 1>are we probably already talked about this, but they like

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<v Speaker 1>hung out with their cousins and played with them, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're out of our way and entertaining each other. We

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<v Speaker 1>ignore them for hours. We didn't have to worry about

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<v Speaker 1>anyone like falling down a flight of dairs. Every second.

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<v Speaker 1>We send them down the stairs and say stay there

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<v Speaker 1>playing the basement. Hey, go fall down the stairs. What

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<v Speaker 1>do we care, You'll be fine. Oh, your dad had

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<v Speaker 1>a great quote over Christmas. By the way, so you're parents,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess kind of all boomer parents are notoriously blase

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<v Speaker 1>about safety and notorious. Yeah, it's like a stereotype of

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<v Speaker 1>boomers just any older generation is like, we live through it,

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be fine. A factory I fell down the factory

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<v Speaker 1>that I am much more a boomer than you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You're much more boomer in terms of safety. Well anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's like an attitude that I feels. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like part of it genuinely comes from a time when

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<v Speaker 1>people had like seven kids and they were like well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna lose one or two like you like. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the quote is going to say is someone said something

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<v Speaker 1>about like our nephew like falling down the stairs or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know they were he was going to the

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<v Speaker 1>stairs alone and someone made some comment and your dad

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, if you're going to fall down the

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<v Speaker 1>stairs at any age, that's the age. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess true, but it's just like very harsh. He's

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<v Speaker 1>all he's practically on the ground, being that short the

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<v Speaker 1>fall is, you know. Yeah, and my dad is six

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<v Speaker 1>four when he falls. You know, he's got a lifetime

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<v Speaker 1>between tripping and hitting the ground. If anyone's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a strong recovery, it's going to be a two year old.

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<v Speaker 1>You all can fall down the stairs anyway. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a good holiday, and our kids we already

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this, but yeah, our kids are huge. So

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<v Speaker 1>the big change for me is I now say to them,

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<v Speaker 1>go get your jammies on, or in the morning, I

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<v Speaker 1>go get dressed, and they do it. But they also

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<v Speaker 1>sort of both like space even really spaces out. This

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<v Speaker 1>morning we were early to dropping to dropping Maven off

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<v Speaker 1>at daycare in Britain school. Because I get out, I goes, all, right,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want for breakfast? What's cereal? And they

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<v Speaker 1>picked and I go get dressed and you can have it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went out and I poured two bowls of

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<v Speaker 1>cereal and I put them on the table and then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I need to take your own shower.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I turned around and there they were in

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<v Speaker 1>their clothes. It's incredible what this takes. I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is supposed to take twenty five minutes of me wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>you into the clothes. I do think that this week

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<v Speaker 1>they're like kind of excited to be back in their routine,

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<v Speaker 1>like they genuinely have started to actually in this school.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved going back to school after a break. They

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<v Speaker 1>all have so much to talk about. That's how I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, I must be so funny to hear what

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<v Speaker 1>they say to each other. Oh, I have so many

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<v Speaker 1>things to explain to people. Well, like it's like today

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm so curious to hear how they say it

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<v Speaker 1>out of context because today we we've talked to Bran

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<v Speaker 1>about the rule of threes in comedy because he like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>in comedy, if something happens three times it's funny, but

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes Brat pushes it and he just repeats something ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand times, and we were like kind of trying to explain.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, always confused why he's not getting laughs, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, because it's gonna laugh one second ago. So

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<v Speaker 1>then he got onto this thing about the rule of

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<v Speaker 1>a hundreds and that's when things are not funny anymore. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so what he said, I don't think you're there. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>he's told this joke over and over and we all

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<v Speaker 1>stopped laughing and he noticed. So he's like, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>rule of threes, right, daddy. After three, it's not funny anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you're not laughing. And I was in my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yes, that's very intuitive. Yes, he goes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the rule in Winnetka, the rule of three, which is

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<v Speaker 1>where we are, we're for vacation. And then he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>but here where we live, now that it's the rule

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<v Speaker 1>of a hundred. Well, but this was secondary too in

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<v Speaker 1>original conversation that I was trying to explain, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that he's he learned about the rule of threes and

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<v Speaker 1>how things feel less funny. So he yeah, he the

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<v Speaker 1>rule of threes is actually a comedy rule and the

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<v Speaker 1>rule and there are improv teachers. I think Billy Murritt

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<v Speaker 1>used to say the rule of seven was that it

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<v Speaker 1>would stop being funny after three, and then when he

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<v Speaker 1>got back around to twenty seven, it would start getting

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<v Speaker 1>funny again, which is pretty much the rule that Brian

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<v Speaker 1>has now come up with, exactly that. The rule of

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<v Speaker 1>three is after two everyone sees a pattern, and three

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<v Speaker 1>confirms it. So at three everyone's like, got it, I

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<v Speaker 1>got it, and then four it's like no, no, no no,

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<v Speaker 1>I already got it. But then is the well can't

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<v Speaker 1>just repeated over and over. Sorry, I'm trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>to is that the brand has this rule. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he was trying to explain it to Nick in a

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<v Speaker 1>video today that we're going to send to Nick. But

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<v Speaker 1>then Nick, an adult man, my comedy partner who understands

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<v Speaker 1>comedy rules and so brands starts telling the story and

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<v Speaker 1>just like starts the story in the strangest place, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the rule the rule of one hundreds in

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<v Speaker 1>our town is the It's just like he said, the

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<v Speaker 1>rule of one hundred in our town is that you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell any joke a thousand times. Yeah, it just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't anyway. So that's sort of what my point was.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm picturing him back at school, and he's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>played in the puppet theater and I flew an airplane. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I flew in an airplane. I piloted an airplane. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I taught the world about how ears were because he's

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<v Speaker 1>been saying some really weird lies lately. You've been watching

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of storybots. So he learned how a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things work and only sort of gets it, and

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<v Speaker 1>he loves to explain, and then he loves to change

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<v Speaker 1>the story in the strangest way. Don't correct him. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>teaching mayven days of the week this week. I realized

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<v Speaker 1>that may even does not know the days of the week,

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<v Speaker 1>which brand new when he was very young. Because I've

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<v Speaker 1>spent all day quizzing him on things, and I've been

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<v Speaker 1>ignoring my daughter. Or she's just interested in more interesting

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<v Speaker 1>things like princesses. Jinna warns babies, more practical knowledge, like

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<v Speaker 1>like sparkles and rainbows. She like. So she got this

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<v Speaker 1>necklace making kit for Christmas, which she loved. She loved

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<v Speaker 1>all of her girly things, and she got a doll

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<v Speaker 1>from her cousin. That was her favorite thing ever. And

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<v Speaker 1>she one of these necklaces was sitting out here and

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<v Speaker 1>she was like this one broke a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 1>like she's pointing at the beads and like noting. Like

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<v Speaker 1>she's just in that really girly mode where she'll turn

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<v Speaker 1>to you and be like it's not perfect, Like she

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<v Speaker 1>just like wants everything to be like so beautiful. She's

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<v Speaker 1>very particular like her mother, which has led to a

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<v Speaker 1>gorgeous bathroom. I keep going over there at night when

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<v Speaker 1>the workers are away, and I peek at the progress. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you like to sneak peeks, like the sneak peaks. I

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<v Speaker 1>just like to sneak peaks in bathrooms. What I'm no

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<v Speaker 1>creep um. The sink, the vanity, the toilet are in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good except for this one thing that our contractor

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<v Speaker 1>improvised without consulting me. With the tiles. Well there, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's like what they contractors referred to as shampoo boxes,

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<v Speaker 1>which are these indians in the tiles in the shower

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<v Speaker 1>where you can put your shampoo and stuff. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the back of that, he decided on his own to

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<v Speaker 1>do a totally different tile separate from the two tiles

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<v Speaker 1>I picked out for the wall and floor, and he

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<v Speaker 1>chose this very cheap, tacky looking tile to insert into

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of all the subway tile, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like one of those sheets. It's like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>every kitchen, Yeah, like fake colorful glass. And granted it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's all like gray, so it's like it could be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot worse. And it's going to be the shower

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<v Speaker 1>behind the shower curtain, and no one's going to look

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<v Speaker 1>in the shower and inspect my shampoo boxes. So at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, I just want everyone to leave my bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to move back into my home. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to argue about it, but I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>why why this? Why not the other tile that we

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<v Speaker 1>have a whole other box of? Well, why not just

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<v Speaker 1>the white subway tile that is? That's what I mean? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or why not ask us? Yeah, I gotta say they've

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<v Speaker 1>done a very fine job. I think he thought. I

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely think he thought he was doing me a favor.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think there's he has a lot of customers

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<v Speaker 1>who are probably like, yeah, when they added in this

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<v Speaker 1>fancy detail over here like that, I think that he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm going to add some visual interest. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't see it. He probably was like, this box

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<v Speaker 1>of child costs five box versus two for the white

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<v Speaker 1>subway tiles. So I'm gonna treat her, you know, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an easier it's a much easier thing to install

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<v Speaker 1>because it's one sheet and it's like a flexible sheet.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta cut those subway tiles and put it in

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<v Speaker 1>an awkward spot. Yeah. But anyway, dang girl, you designed

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<v Speaker 1>the hell out of that bathroom and it is Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't put it. We'll have to have a picture,

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<v Speaker 1>not this week's episode. We'll have to do a pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. My friend, whose husband is an architect,

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<v Speaker 1>I was asking her sure, I was talking to her

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and she recommended Cohler like sink fixtures and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really pleased with that aspect of this. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 1>I could say they were the showerhead fixtures are gold. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a curveball. I didn't see that coming. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see the gold coming. I mean I saw none

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<v Speaker 1>of it coming because I was not part of the process,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm not complaining you. I trust you and you

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<v Speaker 1>deliver Anyway, it looks great. We can't wait. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to have the an octional bathroom that doesn't leak

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<v Speaker 1>into our downstairs neighbors and the toilet doesn't run all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and the door closed, the window sill isn't

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<v Speaker 1>rotting away, and the door has a lock on it

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<v Speaker 1>because we're fancy now. Also, the door is made out

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<v Speaker 1>of solid wood, so you don't necessarily have to hear

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's don't have to hear everyone's pub in our apartment

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<v Speaker 1>where the echoes throughout. Um, we just used to call

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<v Speaker 1>it the pp echo room. Anyway, we're moving up, moving

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<v Speaker 1>on up, And can we talk about the tantrum that

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<v Speaker 1>happened tonight? Is it interesting? Well? The thing that was

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<v Speaker 1>interesting about it, So Maven's been having some big tantrums

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just she's hitting me, and so I have

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<v Speaker 1>to hold her down gently carefully. Um. I try to

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<v Speaker 1>keep my cool, but sometimes I don't. And I'm just remembering, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Brand went through this that phase where he would go

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<v Speaker 1>crazy and you'd have to really pin him down and

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<v Speaker 1>because he wasn't being safe and he was stomping and

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<v Speaker 1>all this, and remember how hard it was. Yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 1>not nearly this. She's not as strong as he is.

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<v Speaker 1>And but he was. It's the same age that he

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<v Speaker 1>was doing this. But tonight we went through one of

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<v Speaker 1>them and she didn't have quite the fight in her

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<v Speaker 1>that she did for the last couple, and that it

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<v Speaker 1>ended with her. She gave up. And that is brand

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<v Speaker 1>new and boys, it satisfying. I think we're past the

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<v Speaker 1>worst of that. But she started screaming, you're hurting me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I'm not. My impulse would go like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not hurting you. You can't engage at all. Canna

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<v Speaker 1>engage to that because she's gonna scream it more. And

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<v Speaker 1>we are to Airbnb, and and the woman who rents it,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is in this building. She's got a little

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<v Speaker 1>secret compartment somewhere, not a compartment apartment secret. She told

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<v Speaker 1>us she's in an attached apartment on the property. I

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<v Speaker 1>think she might be directly blows yeah she is anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>daughter screaming. She's listening to this podcast right now. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you're welcome free content. This next segment is called would

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<v Speaker 1>you knows? That's where you guys are listeners or us

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<v Speaker 1>present parenting hypotheticals. Oh yeah, we gotta repeat writer in

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<v Speaker 1>her for would you knows? This is from Nicola, who

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<v Speaker 1>wrote do you're a member that would you know? Scenario

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<v Speaker 1>about the the guy from that like still money or

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<v Speaker 1>something from us and then years later run into a

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<v Speaker 1>month playground and he acts like he doesn't know you.

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<v Speaker 1>I got all those details wrong, but it was a

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<v Speaker 1>good one anyway. Read this one. Hey guys, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for your trouble shooting with my previous would you know

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<v Speaker 1>this question? It brought a smile to my face on

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<v Speaker 1>a particularly tough day trying to juggle children, work, in

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<v Speaker 1>life in general. Due to the feedback from the Graham

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<v Speaker 1>slash Matthew scenario, which is the last one, I challenged

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<v Speaker 1>myself to think of another descent. So here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the Christmas holidays and you are currently experiencing

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<v Speaker 1>the common confusion of it's Tuesday today, right, it's Wednesday?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sure what happened to Tuesday? Along with the

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<v Speaker 1>calendar amnesia, everyone's sleep schedules also messed up. Brandon Maven

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<v Speaker 1>had started staying up late, and therefore you two are

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<v Speaker 1>also staying up late and sleeping in to compensate. Excuse me, Peter, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm drinking a bubbly beer over here, Peter. One night,

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<v Speaker 1>you wake up to hear Maven crying. At a glance

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<v Speaker 1>of your phone, you predict you've only just fallen asleep. Groggily,

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<v Speaker 1>you get out of bed to check on Maven. Once

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<v Speaker 1>in the kid's room, you see Beth is already there,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to console Maven, but nothing is working. Maven is

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<v Speaker 1>pushing to sit up and break out of Beth's arms,

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<v Speaker 1>but can't get out of her hold and continues to

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<v Speaker 1>cry out in frustration. Upon hearing you walk in, Beth

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<v Speaker 1>looks up at you and says, this isn't Maven. This

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<v Speaker 1>must be an alien to you. Maven looks and sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like herself, and you say so to Beth. She only

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<v Speaker 1>shakes her head and repeats with some with stone cold sincerity,

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<v Speaker 1>that the child she is holding is an alien. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to call someone, she adds, this time with urgency.

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<v Speaker 1>Take her into our room, get him out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll hold it until you get back. Peter. You're naturally

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<v Speaker 1>confused as hell. You suspect that Beth is still half asleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe whatever she was dreaming is still running through

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<v Speaker 1>her system. Maybe she was dreaming about people being addict

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<v Speaker 1>abducted by shape shifting creatures from out of space. But

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<v Speaker 1>what if she's not What if this isn't Maven. The

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<v Speaker 1>possibility is extremely slim that your daughter has been replaced

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<v Speaker 1>by a shape shifting extraterrestrial, But it's still a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>The more you try to reason with Beth, the more

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<v Speaker 1>she digs her heels and she keeps a tight hold

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<v Speaker 1>of your quote unquote daughter who's trying to break free.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do? Thanks, Keola, Wow, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't believe it? I just go back to sleep. This

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<v Speaker 1>is so classic. It was so classic. Don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just go back to sleep and let my hallucinating wife

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<v Speaker 1>wrestle my daughter. I would not go back to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>because I would be in great fear that my wife

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<v Speaker 1>has lost her mind and that she's going to harm

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<v Speaker 1>our child. So I would apply reason. I would let

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<v Speaker 1>you know Beth that okay, okay, great, Well let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a second. Let's figure this out to calm you down,

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<v Speaker 1>make you feel like this alien is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt us. And I'd say, let's talk to it um

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<v Speaker 1>and I try to get Mavin out of your arms.

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<v Speaker 1>This could really make or break our relationship. Okay, great,

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<v Speaker 1>I would show you that I was taking it seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean also, at first, I need to assess how

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<v Speaker 1>crazed you are, if we can calm you down. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like we need a code word or something like

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<v Speaker 1>where it can be like, I'm not losing my mind

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<v Speaker 1>right now. This is an alien Like what, Beth are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you read this email? Because I didn't read the

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<v Speaker 1>ps to this email. You want to hear the ps

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<v Speaker 1>ps once you have solved it. In our household, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a code word that we use when one of

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<v Speaker 1>us needs to take a step back from a situation

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<v Speaker 1>because the other is getting frustrated, whether it's cleaning, fixing

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<v Speaker 1>a broken drawer, or handling our daughter after only one

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<v Speaker 1>hour of sleep and still in dream mode. It is

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<v Speaker 1>coming handy at times, and I'm so grateful to have

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<v Speaker 1>my husband to lean on. In the early days of

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<v Speaker 1>being a mom, I used to dream of people hiding

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter in pillow cases, so I'd wake up tearing

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<v Speaker 1>the bed she's trying to apart, trying to find her.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you said that, because we're all in

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<v Speaker 1>a simulation. Peter, Oh my gosh, I was programmed different.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy code word. But in their scenario, the code

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<v Speaker 1>word is sort of like wake up, like it snaps

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<v Speaker 1>you back to reality. Well it sounds like no, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't actually process that. I was just too shocked that

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<v Speaker 1>you also said code words. I mean, it is shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>In our household, we have a cold word that we

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<v Speaker 1>use when one of us needs to take a step

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<v Speaker 1>back from a situation because the other is getting frustrated. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so when things are getting too intense and someone needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be like reminded, So what I say the code

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<v Speaker 1>word to you to be like you need to take

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<v Speaker 1>a break, or do I say a code word? Because

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<v Speaker 1>the person who's trying to calm the other person down

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<v Speaker 1>says so I say, like, Bob, that's a flipper. It

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<v Speaker 1>means it's like giving each other a time out that

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<v Speaker 1>you've agreed upon. Well, I'm most I'm a little confused.

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<v Speaker 1>I think time outs are good. I agree. That's something

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<v Speaker 1>I have learned a little bit being with you, is that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel a lot of things, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>give myself a time out so that I can am

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<v Speaker 1>capable of remembering what I'm saying now. Otherwise I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of things I can't defend. Later, this

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<v Speaker 1>Airbnb feels like we're in a time out. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that is completely true. I feel like my whole life

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm i M gonna have a time Yeah. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just such a weird. Yeah, anyway, I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>say time out with our kids, do we do? You

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<v Speaker 1>say time out? I say alone time? I think you

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<v Speaker 1>need some alone time. It feels less love of punishment,

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<v Speaker 1>more meeting their needs. Sometimes you gotta cool down. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you believe you said we need a code word? I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually had so many insane synchronicities this week like

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<v Speaker 1>you would not like it's like it's just like crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like sitting here trying to write something, and

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't been so frustrated because like the kids keep

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<v Speaker 1>entry up to me all week, and I was having

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like a breakthrough realization of like just like

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<v Speaker 1>forcing myself to like actually get something done. And as

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<v Speaker 1>it was happening, this hawk and we're are Airbnb is

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<v Speaker 1>on this golf course, and so this hawk flew down

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<v Speaker 1>to the golf course and like caught an animal in

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<v Speaker 1>its mouth, like right in front of me. As this

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<v Speaker 1>was happening, and I was just like, what is happening?

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<v Speaker 1>And like I had I've had so many moments in

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<v Speaker 1>this Airbnb where I'll be thinking about something I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do or buy or whatever and something and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'll literally look up and be like, there's a painting

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<v Speaker 1>of that thing on the wall right in front of me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I just have had so many, so many weird things. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>that reminds me of the still the most insane things

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<v Speaker 1>that's ever happened in my entire life. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>in high school. I was getting ready for breakfast for school,

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<v Speaker 1>was eating breakfast, Um, I was done, and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>putting on my shoes at the breakfast table and I

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<v Speaker 1>was tying my shoes. I finished tying them, and I

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<v Speaker 1>looked up and in our backgyard there was a big pond,

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<v Speaker 1>and across the pond it was a very big, weeping willow,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful giant tree right on the edge of the water.

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<v Speaker 1>And I look up and I, for no reason, I

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<v Speaker 1>decided to take a second to just actively think about

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<v Speaker 1>this tree and appreciate it. My mind, really is an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible tree. And just in that moment, the entire tree

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<v Speaker 1>split into and fell into the pond. That's how they're

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<v Speaker 1>reminding us. It's all fake. It was. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>it started cracking. It was loud, like the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>cracked and splashed and there were waves. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>I heard a noise and looked. I was looking at

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<v Speaker 1>it and then it went I can die. Now we're

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<v Speaker 1>in a game. I later read that this is common

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<v Speaker 1>for weeping willows, especially close to the water, and this

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<v Speaker 1>one was freakishly big. To following someone's staring at them,

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<v Speaker 1>that's common. Yeah, they're very shy, so like, don't look

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<v Speaker 1>at me. Um. So, I don't know what I learned

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<v Speaker 1>from that. There's a pps in this email about half

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<v Speaker 1>of the Graham slash Matthews scenario is based on true events. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I figured her style is like a mix of fact

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<v Speaker 1>in fiction where the lines are always blurred. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a really good movie adaptation of real events where it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that real. Yeah, you shouldn't get into she is.

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<v Speaker 1>She's doing a great job, I gotta say. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>you got characters the really indicate how how to read

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<v Speaker 1>the lines is clear. I feel like she could write

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<v Speaker 1>a really great thriller in the same way that like

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<v Speaker 1>in the way that Jordan's Peels films get it, like

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<v Speaker 1>the visceral feeling of experiencing racism. I feel like she

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<v Speaker 1>could do that for like the visceral like sort of

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<v Speaker 1>rage and overwhelm of being a mom. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like she's like you wake up and

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<v Speaker 1>there's an alien Like I just want her to write

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<v Speaker 1>we knows pod fan fiction you wanted to be about you? Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I love it. Um, although you gotta don't

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<v Speaker 1>learn how to spell brand too many ends. There's only

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<v Speaker 1>one end. I mean. This is not to you. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not for everybody to scold them. I love you,

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<v Speaker 1>I take it back, But everybody, we gotta go over

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<v Speaker 1>this again because almost nobody gets them right. Bran d

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<v Speaker 1>R Y D M A E. Just don't give us.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't don't give us an excuse to talk about our

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<v Speaker 1>kids names again because you don't want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just try to spell them correctly. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear it. They don't want to hear us talk about names. Spelling.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about spelling. One of my favorite books I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever read was just about the history of the English language,

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<v Speaker 1>just the phonetics. You know, I have to bring her

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<v Speaker 1>up almost every episode. Elizabeth Warren this week said that

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<v Speaker 1>her favorite book she was asked by a childbird favorite

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<v Speaker 1>book is and she said The Little Engine That Could.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the only person who could answer that in the

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<v Speaker 1>way that she answered it. And I would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe what this politician is saying. I believe she

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<v Speaker 1>actually feels this way. I believe I believe she. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe she like she named her dog Bailey, after George

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<v Speaker 1>Bailey in It's a Wonderful Life and Hello Yo, building

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<v Speaker 1>him loan. Someone asked her recently in an interview. They

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<v Speaker 1>tried to argue that like George Bailey's philosophy was actually

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<v Speaker 1>predatory towards like he was a predatory lender, and She's

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<v Speaker 1>like flipped out defended it. I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the one who really loves that movie and really loves

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<v Speaker 1>a Little Engine. Anyway, Well, for whatever difference is, Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 1>Warden and I have we are on the same page

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<v Speaker 1>about defending George Bailey, who called him a predatory lender.

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Come on, he sacrificed profits left and right to help

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<v Speaker 1>the little guy. Um, all right, Well, that was an

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<v Speaker 1>excellent um, we knows, would you know? I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to say, what the hell is called? Is called? We knows?

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<v Speaker 1>This is an excellent We know the episode is not over,

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<v Speaker 1>but the reviews are in in this episode, we're killing it.

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<v Speaker 1>This next secment is called listeners want to Know. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we take questions and comments from you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Does the email comes to us from Matthew

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<v Speaker 1>our friend? All right? He writes a parenting win on

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<v Speaker 1>par with a Stanley cup. It's the bold subject line. Hi, Betty, Peter.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do a quick fun fact we've probably

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<v Speaker 1>talked about before, which is that we used to live

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<v Speaker 1>in a block where there's a big mural of sports

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<v Speaker 1>figures and of New York sports hero and it was

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>painted by children, and it was not the best way.

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>It was not painted by children, it definitely was. It

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:51.959
<v Speaker 1>was painted by like teenagers anyway, I don't think so.

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>It had clearly been there for years and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a little wonky, and they there was what was it,

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Wayne Gretzky in the sun Mark Messier, Mark Messier holding

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<v Speaker 1>up a Stanley cup. Dropy. That was just the way

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>it had been painted was just kind of crooked. It

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>was not. It was a very floppy Stanley cup. But

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<v Speaker 1>instead of walking past like a normal person and thinking, well,

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>a teenager probably made this mural and they did their best,

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's cute. Every time you walked by, you got

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>so angry, angry and that it was funny. You had

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>to point it out every time, how crooked it wasn't

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>It got under your skin, and you couldn't not in

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<v Speaker 1>my town. It's the rule of a thousand. You couldn't

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>not say it every single time I walk past. So

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<v Speaker 1>I told my sister that you did that. And then

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>we were driving past in the car with my family

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>at one time, I think, anyway, we're going past with

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<v Speaker 1>their sister and she turns to just and goes, wow,

0:29:55.440 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that Stanley cup is really crooked. And you for out

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>so excited that someone shared your animosity towards this mural.

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Animosity is not the right word. Okay, Well your fixation,

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>that's fair. Your fixation is validated, and he felt on

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<v Speaker 1>top of the world. I was like, I know, right,

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 1>And then you both looked at each other and laughed,

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, I just got a new

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>old Okay. Anyway, continuing the email, it's really embarrassing. I

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>thought I could trust your sister, and that was a

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>moment I realized, No, we're bonded by blood. Sarcastic blood.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, parenting went on par with the Stanley Cup. Hi,

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Beth and Peter wanted to share with you a recent

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>parenting win that I feel Peter in particular, we'll get

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>a kick out of are almost four year old son,

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<v Speaker 1>as most kids, sometimes gets a bit overexcited and has

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<v Speaker 1>difficulty calming down. The holiday season with an abundance of

0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>candy and baked goods available only serves to exhaust abait this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's usually something as innocent as running through the house

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.239
<v Speaker 1>or screaming, and by giving him attention and maybe some

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>activity to focus on, he can get himself calm and centered. Sometimes, however,

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>he just can't and needs to get the energy out.

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 1>This is when the innocent playing can quickly shift to

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>the naughty side of throwing things, jumping on or off furniture,

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>or getting in the face of the family dog, basically

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>all types of things that can result in injury, so

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<v Speaker 1>it needs to be addressed at the same time. Matthews

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:34.719
<v Speaker 1>developing an appreciation for hockey definitely as a result of

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>projection from Daddy could work Dad. This fall, he experienced

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 1>his first hockey game, his first time ice skating, and

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>for Christmas received an indoor hockey set. So while he

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<v Speaker 1>was learning about the game, I tried to incorporate some

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<v Speaker 1>of these rules into everyday life, namely the penalty and

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the penalty box. I know what you're thinking, it's just

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>time out by another name, except it's not. Time out

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 1>has worked to our Time out hasn't worked for Matthew

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<v Speaker 1>in the past because it doesn't lend itself to communication

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 1>about what, how, and why something is not acceptable. It

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:13.479
<v Speaker 1>has always felt more like solidaryn solitary confinement where there

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.959
<v Speaker 1>is no talking or moving. Just wait for the end

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and then maybe we can talk about what happens several

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 1>minutes ago if you pay attention. When an NHL player

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>receives a penalty, the ref usually escorts them to the

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>box explaining their penalty, and then they can still communicate

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>with the bench and the official in the box during

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>their penalty time. The only rule is that they have

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in the box for the penalty time. So

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<v Speaker 1>we tried making a quote unquote penalty box by designating

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<v Speaker 1>a chair in the living room, not separate from anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and use standing a standard time two minutes for minor penalties,

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes for fighting. When Matthew crosses the line from

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>playing to naughty, playing to naughty, we make a horn

0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>sound and call out penalty and then calmly explain what

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>happened and ask him if that's allowed or not. We

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>use our smart speaker as the timer so we can

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 1>quickly and calmly ask Alexa for two minute timer, get

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Matthew into the penalty box, and then continue to communicate

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>about the difference between playful and destructive or dangerous until

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Alexa lets us know the penalty times over. There's no

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>clock watching, no shunning. Proud to say that Matthew has

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>taken to it very well and it has become a

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<v Speaker 1>great tool for the whole family because, just like on

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<v Speaker 1>the ice, any player can get sent to the box,

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<v Speaker 1>even mommy, daddy or puppy. Like most parenting tools, success

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>hinges on our ability to not show anger when using

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 1>but so far it has been a great way to

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>address behavior without the focus being on the punishment. We

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>haven't needed to give five for fighting yet, but Matthew's

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 1>cousin of the same age is coming soon and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a Flyer's Penguins game every time they get together.

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<v Speaker 1>Matth you know what that means, right? He didn't say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I said that. I would also like to thank A.

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<v Speaker 1>Beth for recently identifying a book I've been searching for

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<v Speaker 1>a few times. The Girl Who Owned a City was

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>a book we read in middle school, and while most

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>of the plot has stuck with me, I could not

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 1>remember the title. Thanks to her Austin memory and the

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>overdrive app, I downloaded the audio book from the library

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>and listen to it again. A great premise and book

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>eagerly awaiting. There's no manual best book coming out in

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>February as a birthday present for my wife, who is

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:29.240
<v Speaker 1>pregnant with baby number two. Woo. Last thing on the list.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been meaning to give you a recommendation of a

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 1>great bourbon that's relatively new. Okay, if you can find it.

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>It's called rough Rider and it's now you're talking, and

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>it's distill distilled on Long Island, as well as some

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>great vodka. The distillery is also great, with a tasting

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 1>room and deck that overlooks the farm. It's in the

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 1>same general area as most Long Island wineries and farms,

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 1>so it makes very great stop before or after pumpkin

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 1>picking in the fall as oh A, thanks for this

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 1>awesome podcast and a happy New Year from m J

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and family. Matt. Wow, there's so much to talk about

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>in this email. I don't even know where to start.

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:16.839
<v Speaker 1>Um the penalty. I am so timpted to talk about

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the bourbon first and foremost. Well, then talk about the

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>bourbon just like I really I have developed a deep

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 1>affection for bourbon over other like whiskey, especially Scotch, like

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>a bourbon anyway. Is this interesting? Yeah? Yeah it is. Babe.

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Just start calling you babe, babe, talk about what you

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 1>want a babe, babe. I just want like a smooth bourbon. Um.

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 1>It felt very weird for you to even joke call

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>me babe. Um, like weirder than me doing it to you.

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 1>You're like, this is not my wife. This is an

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 1>aliens and I like it. Okay, all right, I'll get

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 1>to the real. But do you think anyone out there

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>has a wife alien fantasy fetish? Not a fetish fantasy.

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>People have fetishes about like slapping bologna on their feet.

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they have that fetish understandable, but what about

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry you go ahead, Um no, let's keep talking

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>about fetish. You're not my wife, you're an alien. Oh yeah,

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:35.839
<v Speaker 1>come here, alien. I'm sorry that got so I got

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>that got that got more sexual than I would have

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 1>liked it too. I'm sorry, but that was the bit.

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 1>You can take any weird interests and then you get

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 1>you get someone to influence other people to become into it,

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and then and then they just will create finer and

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 1>finer versions of it, until you'd be like, why is

0:36:54.760 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>everyone even this weird smoky peete bug? Why say, for

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 1>eating this weird smoky pezza. I don't get it. It It

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>really just seems like anyway a smoke wait, a smoky

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>peete bog. What have you noticed that all of our

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 1>friends are dressing up like aliens and going to these

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>alien orgies in this peatbock getting into the pa I

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 1>like the aliens, and I can't get into the pea

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>buck anyway. Um, should we get to the actual penalty box?

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Penalty Okay, obviously this seems like it's going great for

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 1>him and our children. I don't think would understand or

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:48.360
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it at all. I disagree. I think if we

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 1>committed to this singular, you know, if they were experiencing

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>hockey outside the home on a regular basis and cared

0:37:56.200 --> 0:38:00.040
<v Speaker 1>about it in the world at large, I think it

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.760
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. I think the peer pressure aspect of people

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>being of like our kids seeing other kids adhere by

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>other rules that is magical. Like remember when we were

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>bringing them to daycare for the first time and we

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.799
<v Speaker 1>were like, um, our children are animals and they don't

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:19.720
<v Speaker 1>nap at times, and you can't make them do things.

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>And then they were like, oh no, they'll just do

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 1>what the other children are doing. And we were like really.

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.439
<v Speaker 1>And then like a day and they were like, yeah,

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 1>your kids just snapped with the other kids. I wasn't worried.

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.399
<v Speaker 1>Well I was. I was like, they don't I mean

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 1>food when we tell them to eat. I didn't think.

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think they would get on board so quickly,

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 1>that's for sure. Yeah, but I don't think they'd have to.

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to explain hockey at all. If you

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 1>were just like, okay, that's too minutes, you're going in

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the penalty box. You sit in the chair in the

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>midst of a tantrum and you're explaining time out game.

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 1>They're not going to be like, yes, cool, it would

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 1>have to be a minor offense, you know, tripping, ice sticking,

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 1>cross checking. Uh, yeah, we get it. You're sports hunk

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:20.399
<v Speaker 1>who knows all the hockey terms boarding. Boarding. Um. Your

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 1>boarding is when you check somebody not on the boards, um,

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 1>but like a few feet away so that they fall

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and like their face hits the boards. That's dangerous. Back

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:35.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, checking from behind. That was called back checking.

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 1>It's when you skate back. Boy, it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a great idea. I think the phenomenal

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>idea that the core elements of it that work really

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:59.280
<v Speaker 1>well is just clear, consistent, non unemotional consequences, consequences where

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:02.319
<v Speaker 1>a kid can connect A to B. You just did

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 1>this thing. Now you have to go here, and you know,

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 1>the explaining why something is bad. You know, Matt hit

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 1>it right in the head when it's that like you

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:14.800
<v Speaker 1>you send in the room whatever, you have an argument

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 1>and then later you try to talk about it that

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't work. They don't remember, they don't even connect

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>it back to how this happened. But in the moment,

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:27.760
<v Speaker 1>something happens and you go up two minutes for tripping

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:30.839
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is. It's a two B and they

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.879
<v Speaker 1>can actually connect to the thing they did and learn

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 1>from it. That's what I think. I just I don't

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 1>remember him talking about that and his email about sorry

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 1>about what about um not talking to them after he

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 1>said in there that, you know, hoping that after a

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 1>big fight or whatever, you can have a conversation about

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.840
<v Speaker 1>why this all happened. I find that with my kids

0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>if there's a big blow up and they go to

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 1>the room, and then after as they calm down, you

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 1>sit down and you're like, now, do you know why

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:11.280
<v Speaker 1>this happened? That's a pointless conversation because they don't remember,

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 1>and that actually rewards them because at the end you're like,

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:16.840
<v Speaker 1>now we're going to have a heartfelt connection. Do you

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 1>think sometimes though, it's good to be like, hey, were

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<v Speaker 1>you having some big feelings back there? Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>let them be like yeah I felt bad. Yeah that's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like, do you know how why this happened?

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<v Speaker 1>It's weirdly a reward. You're reinforcing the negative behavior by

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<v Speaker 1>giving it a happy cap at the end. What's your

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<v Speaker 1>what's your best best sports parenting analogy that you go,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your go to, um, you know in the paint.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know, I don't. I don't use

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<v Speaker 1>sports analogy. What I mean, I know you don't. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I asked take it to the hoop, you know

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<v Speaker 1>in the paint. You know, when your kids are emotionally needy,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to meet them in the paint, um basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally did. Until you were talking about that, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't put it together that the band five for Fighting

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<v Speaker 1>was named after a sports rule. Oh wow, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't connect that that's what that is either until

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<v Speaker 1>right now, not that I've thought about the band five

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<v Speaker 1>for Fighting my favorite band, uh five for fighting thing?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember it, just Jimmy Eat World. I was

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<v Speaker 1>about this thing. Five for Fighting could be the name

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<v Speaker 1>of a song and not a band fighting. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things where I never actively thought about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm sure you didn't either, but I assumed five

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<v Speaker 1>for Fighting was we're five guys and we are for fighting,

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<v Speaker 1>like table for five five for fighting? But no, should

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<v Speaker 1>we look up five for fighting? Are you looking at

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<v Speaker 1>up right now? Oh? Five for Fighting is a singer songwriter,

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<v Speaker 1>like a one person who has a stage name? What

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<v Speaker 1>if one guy? Who? What is? What's this big song? Um? Superman?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not easy? Oh? Is that that? Like that? I

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<v Speaker 1>could be your Superman? I guess, I guess, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess five for fighting. That guy loves hockey. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>his name's a Vladimir. I'm going to guess. That's it

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<v Speaker 1>easy from where's he from? But this is the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I think ever we we've just forced you all

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to us. He's born in Los Angeles, US.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course he was big hockey fan. I despise, big

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<v Speaker 1>fan of the big Los Angeles hockey team. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to end that sentence. I'll let you all wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what I despise? What is it Los Angeles? Is it hockey?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it five for fighting? What? I don't know? I've

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<v Speaker 1>lost my mind? Tellt ly us hanging. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>wrap it up. Well, friends, this has been the last

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