Speaker 1: Welcome to the Best of the Week for What's Right
Speaker 1: with Nick Right the best takes and moments from this
Speaker 1: week on the show. Enjoy.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you went.
Speaker 3: Off on your on your show yesterday, you called James
Speaker 3: Harden the biggest choker in modern sports history?
Speaker 2: Was that what you called him? Yeah? Yeah, do you
Speaker 2: think that's you think that's fair?
Speaker 1: Who else is in the argument? Just tell someone. I
Speaker 1: just need someone to tell me who the other contenders are.
Speaker 1: And here's the deal. I'm going to pull up these
Speaker 1: I'm going to pull up these numbers real quick. So Harden, Lebron,
Speaker 1: Steph Durant, those are the four guys of the era.
Speaker 1: And as far as just having uh okay, sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe I should have included Chris, but I didn't. But
Speaker 1: that's and that that's a fair one. But I just
Speaker 1: want to give you these numbers. Career playoff games Demons
Speaker 1: less than four made baskets. Durant has two, Steph has three,
Speaker 1: Lebron has five. Give me a guess for Harden, Just
Speaker 1: give a number Harden.
Speaker 3: All right, So you said those guys numbers, I'll go
Speaker 3: nine thirty five. Yeah, and those guys have obviously played
Speaker 3: a lot more than well.
Speaker 1: I don't Harden's played a bunch. I don't Lebron's played
Speaker 1: a lot more. But yeah, but you know Harden was Okay,
Speaker 1: hold on, that was so again? Thirty five career playoff
Speaker 1: games with less than four making How many of those?
Speaker 1: Uh A hand? A decent amount? But again he the
Speaker 1: only one you can really throw out is the like
Speaker 1: his for you want to throw out you know, ten
Speaker 1: of those games because it was young, young James Harden,
Speaker 1: but he was you know, sixth Man of the year
Speaker 1: and going two for ten in the finals. All right,
Speaker 1: hold on, I got a couple more for you. Career
Speaker 1: playoff games with with under five made baskets. Again, I'll
Speaker 1: give you the numbers for everyone else. KD four, Steph eight,
Speaker 1: Lebron nine, James Harden fifty five. Okay, yeah? And then
Speaker 1: last one career playoff games where you have at least
Speaker 1: as many turnovers or more turnovers than made shots Durant seven,
Speaker 1: Steph thirteen, Lebron's seventeen James Harden.
Speaker 2: More turnovers than made shot Yes, all right, yeah seven
Speaker 2: Steph thirteen, Lebron seventeen, James Harden forty two.
Speaker 1: Forty two more turnovers than made shots.
Speaker 2: It's the biggest, right there.
Speaker 1: Or as many turnovers as made shots, as many or more.
Speaker 1: Uh So, here's the thing. So even if you want
Speaker 1: to be like, well, those first two stats were about
Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't playing as many minutes he's off
Speaker 1: the bench. That clears that up. And it's just demons.
Speaker 1: I used to be the biggest hardened defender. He had
Speaker 1: such a horrific Game six against San Antonio in twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen when Kawhi and Tony Parker were out and the
Speaker 1: Rockets lost by thirty nine points that I said, I
Speaker 1: thought he had an undiagnosed concussion. It's just and so
Speaker 1: there is there is no comp for it. And so
Speaker 1: if people want to, we don't have to. It's just
Speaker 1: at this point who he is, the moment gets too big.
Speaker 2: It was turning around there for a second.
Speaker 1: He always has these moments. And then it's the game
Speaker 1: six or a game seven, and he takes seven shots,
Speaker 1: he takes eight shots. He has he has I think
Speaker 1: six playoff games where he was two for ten, two
Speaker 1: for eleven or two for twelve from the field. Ask
Speaker 1: this follow up about Russ and then we'll get to
Speaker 1: the Warriors.
Speaker 3: So who do you think will end up having a
Speaker 3: better legacy when it's all said and done between Russ
Speaker 3: and Harden.
Speaker 1: So I think this is really it depends on what
Speaker 1: your value. So Harden's a better all time player, and
Speaker 1: like he has, he's gonna have better numbers on better teams,
Speaker 1: more of a part of winning. They both won one MVP.
Speaker 1: But Russ is going to be an icon and Harden
Speaker 1: is going to be a placeholder for choking like to
Speaker 1: like in the future. And so the answer is Russ.
Speaker 1: Like the answer is definitely Russ.
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Speaker 1: The Knicks deserve, They deserve to be the story, but
Speaker 1: they are not the story. The Knicks deserve to have
Speaker 1: us talking about how they have gone to Boston. They
Speaker 1: have been down twenty points in the second half in
Speaker 1: both of these games. They have not played great, honestly,
Speaker 1: in either game. Yesterday, Mikhale Bridges is terrible for the
Speaker 1: first three quarters before being awesome. Jalen Brunson is six
Speaker 1: of nineteen in the game. With a few minutes left
Speaker 1: in the game, he had made four shots and it's
Speaker 1: not like he was getting He had made four shots
Speaker 1: and gotten to the free throw line once. And they
Speaker 1: found a way to win, and they deserve credit for that.
Speaker 1: But the story, and we will, I promise we'll spend
Speaker 1: a lot of time on the Knicks, but the story
Speaker 1: is Boston. The next story is about what I said
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, planning for this moment for more than a year,
Speaker 1: and there being a lot of similarities to what how
Speaker 1: Minnesota was able to beat Denver to what we are
Speaker 1: seeing with the Knicks and the Celtics. Let's table those
Speaker 1: and we will get to those shortly, because the story
Speaker 1: really is the defending champs falling apart in real time
Speaker 1: physically and mentally. And now let me make this clear,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's over. I don't think like, oh,
Speaker 1: no chance the Celtics come back. The Celtics are talented
Speaker 1: enough and good enough obviously to win four out of
Speaker 1: five against New York. In fact, most people thought they
Speaker 1: were going to win four out of five against New York.
Speaker 1: They just thought it was gonna be the first five games.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a nice, friendly, gentleman suite. But
Speaker 1: we are now here. Everyone's gonna focus on the three
Speaker 1: point variants, and I get it, twenty five of one
Speaker 1: hundred from three fifteen of sixty in Game one, the
Speaker 1: exact same percentage in Game two, except they were ten
Speaker 1: of forty. I actually don't think that is that might
Speaker 1: be the biggest reason they're down. I don't think that
Speaker 1: is the biggest story surround them being down. The biggest
Speaker 1: story surrounding them being down is Jason Tatum. And we
Speaker 1: gave him all his flowers and all the credit for
Speaker 1: what was, without a doubt, at least to my eye,
Speaker 1: the best regular season of his career. I understand he
Speaker 1: didn't even have. It wasn't the best numbers. He's averaged
Speaker 1: almost exactly this many points. He's averaged twenty six point
Speaker 1: eight or twenty six point nine points three of the
Speaker 1: last four years his you know his numbers in the
Speaker 1: one year he did and he averaged thirty. His numbers
Speaker 1: have been consistent, his field goal percentage has been consistent.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't that he played more games. It was
Speaker 1: just this felt like the best Tatum year because you
Speaker 1: didn't get a great year from Jalen Brown by his standards,
Speaker 1: Horford's a year or older. You saw some real deterioration
Speaker 1: from Drew Holliday over the course of the year. And
Speaker 1: yet Tatum answered the bell on both ends of the
Speaker 1: court every night. And and this is the key piece,
Speaker 1: not vkey, but one of the key pieces of it.
Speaker 1: Responded from what was a really weird few months for
Speaker 1: him where he finally wins a championship, but he's not
Speaker 1: the Conference finals MVP. He's not the Finals MVP. He
Speaker 1: actually plays some of his worst basketball of the season
Speaker 1: last year in the biggest games, most notably those two
Speaker 1: series the Conference finals in NBA Finals. Still, it's not
Speaker 1: like he was bad, but he just dropped a level
Speaker 1: that then was compounded by the fact that Steve Kerr,
Speaker 1: who obviously is despite what lunatic Warrior fans would try
Speaker 1: to tell you. Steve Kerr, who obviously is one of
Speaker 1: the best and smartest basketball minds we have. Steve Kerr
Speaker 1: saw Jason Tatum in the Olympics and said, can't use you. Sorry,
Speaker 1: would love to, but actually you're not one of our
Speaker 1: eight best. And he responded to all of that with
Speaker 1: a year where he had an argument he was the
Speaker 1: third best player in the league and where there was
Speaker 1: no argument whatsoever, he was one of the four best
Speaker 1: players in the league. And for that to then and
Speaker 1: then let me add another piece to it. After a
Speaker 1: kind of rocky game one of the playoffs, but who cared?
Speaker 1: They won? It was easy where he got hurt. He
Speaker 1: then came back after missing a game, averaging thirty six,
Speaker 1: eleven and six the rest of the series. It's like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, Jason. This extra level that Bill Simmons has
Speaker 1: been swearing on his children exists for years. For Jason Tatum,
Speaker 1: we're seeing it. And then in back to back games,
Speaker 1: he is twelve of forty two from the field. He
Speaker 1: is five of twenty from three. He is a total
Speaker 1: and complete non factor in the fourth quarter of these games.
Speaker 1: The only play he made last night was when the
Speaker 1: Knicks screwed up a switch and he got a wide
Speaker 1: open dunk. And now, listen, I'll just tell you what
Speaker 1: I say to Kevin Wilds when I face timed him yesterday.
Speaker 1: And I know this is going to sound unfair, but
Speaker 1: it's just how I feel, and it's not prisoner of
Speaker 1: the moment, because I have felt this way about Tatum forever.
Speaker 1: He's an excellent player. But what I said to Wilds
Speaker 1: is I don't care if the Celtics win the next
Speaker 1: three championships, He's never gonna be the best player in
Speaker 1: the league. That guy is not the best player in
Speaker 1: the league. And I don't even think the reason I
Speaker 1: said that to Wilds is because he keeps trying to
Speaker 1: force the conversation of Jason Tatum's going to force us
Speaker 1: into some really tricky conversations. What do we do with
Speaker 1: the twenty seven year old with two rings and four
Speaker 1: first Team All nbas and all of this, What does
Speaker 1: that mean for where he is historically? And my answer
Speaker 1: to that is Tatum is an excellent player. He is
Speaker 1: not yet in the We need to evaluate his historical
Speaker 1: greatness level, and I don't know that he is going
Speaker 1: to be in that conversation. There is and I can't
Speaker 1: put my finger on it, but there's something that's just
Speaker 1: not there.
Speaker 3: Yes, and it gets a little tight in big spots,
Speaker 3: is what it seems like to me.
Speaker 1: Watching the game. It feels to me like if his
Speaker 1: three isn't falling, it knocks him off the rest of
Speaker 1: his game. And what is And here is the Celtics piece.
Speaker 1: And I just did Levotard Show and this is the
Speaker 1: point I was trying to make. The Celtics bum three
Speaker 1: strategy over the long haul, obviously is just a smart
Speaker 1: mathematical strategy. As sample sizes get smaller, you put yourself
Speaker 1: more at you know, the mercy of the variants. It's
Speaker 1: you know, the team that really originated this strategy was
Speaker 1: Darryl Moury's Rockets. But here's why. For Darryl Moury's Rockets,
Speaker 1: it made total sense. The team they were trying to beat,
Speaker 1: the KD Staph Warriors, was flatly better than them, so
Speaker 1: they needed to shake up the snow globe and add
Speaker 1: some damn variants. Because if we just go go to
Speaker 1: the middle of the rain and trade jabs, we got
Speaker 1: no shot. So instead we're gonna throw some wild Haymakers
Speaker 1: and risk getting knocked out because that's our chance. This
Speaker 1: strategy for the Celtics maybe wouldn't make sense if this
Speaker 1: were the NBA Finals against Oklahoma City and they feel
Speaker 1: like they're better than us. All year long, they've been better,
Speaker 1: they have the better resume. They they're best players, better
Speaker 1: than our best player. They're better than us, So let's
Speaker 1: add some uncertainty to it. Up twenty points in the
Speaker 1: second half against the New York Knicks. The last thing
Speaker 1: you want is to add uncertainty. It's it's an insane
Speaker 1: It's not an insane way to play. It's insane. Demon's
Speaker 1: not to adjust, Yeah, and not to have It's a team,
Speaker 1: it's a football team that their identity is chucking it
Speaker 1: deep and up ten in the fourth quarter. They refuse
Speaker 1: to run the ball that and here's the other piece
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 5: You've got Jason Tatum. He's six eight, he's an amazing shape.
Speaker 5: He can get to the hoop, and it is.
Speaker 1: It is stubbornness that at this point might cost him
Speaker 1: their title defense to lose both and it's the first
Speaker 1: twenty point lead. I said it tuesday. The Knicks made
Speaker 1: that a game faster than any team. I can remember,
Speaker 1: it was twenty points, Boston up by twenty with five
Speaker 1: and a half left in the third, and it was
Speaker 1: a six point game with a minute left in the third.
Speaker 1: So the Knicks just in the span of ten possessions
Speaker 1: made it a game again. Yesterday was different in that, Yes,
Speaker 1: it was twenty and then the Knicks chipped away, but
Speaker 1: it was go ahead.
Speaker 3: We were holding it like we stayed out in front,
Speaker 3: in front for a minute, and we just kept shooting
Speaker 3: the three, and they just kept chipping it away.
Speaker 1: It was fourteen with seven minutes left. And so I
Speaker 1: if you look at the Celtics fourth quarter shot chart,
Speaker 1: they did, you know, they didn't just shoot threes. It
Speaker 1: wasn't the third order in Game three. But there were
Speaker 1: just these moments. Most notably was the one Wild's took
Speaker 1: the picture of but it is it's a jarring image
Speaker 1: where it is eighty six seventy seven. Is that I
Speaker 1: want to make sure I have it. I think it's yeah,
Speaker 1: or the let me try to pull out I should
Speaker 1: just pull up Wild's tweet because it is it's a
Speaker 1: wild decision by it's eighty six seventy nine. Pardon me,
Speaker 1: and I don't know why this isn't showing me that,
Speaker 1: but regardless, don't worry about it. Oh here's why, because
Speaker 1: it wasn't. I was like, I thought it was eighty
Speaker 1: six because the score. Remember, and here's a sneaky important
Speaker 1: part of the game that will be forgotten the history.
Speaker 1: The Knicks got an extra point during a time out
Speaker 1: because they had called a Jalen Brunson three a two
Speaker 1: and then they fixed it. Oh on, Mikale Bridges, pardon me,
Speaker 1: And so the score the scoreboard says eighty six seventy nine,
Speaker 1: but it was actually eighty six eighty and Derek White
Speaker 1: misses a three. McHale Bridges then goes down misses a three,
Speaker 1: and Josh Hart tries to save it and starts the
Speaker 1: fast break, and all of a sudden and we can
Speaker 1: put the image up. Jason Tatum finds himself in this position.
Speaker 1: I don't think demons I like it. I well, I
Speaker 1: don't think I like shooting that three if I'm the
Speaker 1: team trailing by seton seven, Like I, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's the smarter move.
Speaker 2: You got a dunk right there, it's not recovering.
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna try to get recovering. And by the way,
Speaker 1: it's and here's the other thing. If Jalen Brunson is upright,
Speaker 1: you might have a dunk there. Oh yeah, you're seven
Speaker 1: inches taller than him. Horford's there. You have a full
Speaker 1: head of steam. That is an impossible decision. Now you
Speaker 1: can be like, listen, what does Jason Tatum shoot on
Speaker 1: corner threes? Blah blah blah. Again, you're ups You're actually
Speaker 1: up six, but you think you're up seven. It's bananas.
Speaker 1: And the very next possession, we don't have a picture
Speaker 1: of it, but Jalen Brown has an alley to the
Speaker 1: basket and he takes a pull up three. And so
Speaker 1: it's just.
Speaker 3: It is the Knicks just finally want it more, is
Speaker 3: what it seems like.
Speaker 1: Well, they just wanted certainly more comfortable demands. If it's
Speaker 1: close late, yeah, that is undeniable. And the fact that
Speaker 1: the Knicks have now won five road playoff games and
Speaker 1: they have won them. They have played five road playoff games,
Speaker 1: they are five and zero, and they have won those
Speaker 1: five games by a combined This is really unbelievable, situants.
Speaker 1: They have won those five games by combined ten points
Speaker 1: ten one in overtime. They won Game three against Detroit
Speaker 1: by two, Game four against Detroit by one, Game six
Speaker 1: against Detroit by three, Game one against Boston by three,
Speaker 1: and in overtime in Game two against Boston by one.
Speaker 1: It is uh. It is a remarkable turn of events.
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Speaker 2: Warriors won game one on the roll without Steph think
Speaker 2: he went out like eight minutes left in the second quarter.
Speaker 3: They still pulled that off. I think he suffered a
Speaker 3: hamstring strain. It's gonna be out at least a week.
Speaker 3: Do you give the Doves any chance to win without Steph?
Speaker 1: No? And I thought that was a great win by
Speaker 1: and I thought Steve Kerr was brilliant and playing thirteen
Speaker 1: guys adjusting on the fly, and Buddy healed. Like these
Speaker 1: last two games with Buddy Heeld, it reminds you of
Speaker 1: how great the Warriors were when they had prime Klay Thompson.
Speaker 1: Because the last two games Buddy held has been prime
Speaker 1: Klay Thompson. It's been really it's just impressive.
Speaker 2: You give them no chance to win this series? If
Speaker 2: Steph is out? Call it? I mean, this is seven
Speaker 2: more days? Is the series over by then?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: They the Warriors could lose like one game.
Speaker 1: The earliest he could be back, realistically is game six
Speaker 1: because they play tonight Saturday, so that's game Uh so
Speaker 1: let me do it like this. They already played game one.
Speaker 1: Tonight is Game two, Saturday is Game three, Monday is
Speaker 1: Game four, Wednesday is game five. Then they don't play
Speaker 1: Did I do that wrong. They play Thursday, Sat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did do that. No, Thursday, Saturday, Monday, Wednesday, and
Speaker 1: then the next game is Sunday. I think the.
Speaker 3: If the Knicks can go out there and do that
Speaker 3: to the Celtics and win the second game, I think
Speaker 3: the Warriors can go back and beat them without Steph Curry.
Speaker 1: But it's just I just don't listen. I I don't.
Speaker 1: I think Jimmy's been good but not unbelievable by keep hitting. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't. I think Buddy healed is you know, going
Speaker 1: to regress more to the mean there? And uh, I
Speaker 1: also think and this was, do you guys remember when
Speaker 1: the Lakers went down three to one to Minnesota and
Speaker 1: I came on here and said, I don't think necessarily
Speaker 1: the series is over. It obviously was, but the Lakers'
Speaker 1: title hopes are done. And the reason I said was
Speaker 1: because now the only way to get out of Round
Speaker 1: one is they have to play every other day, win
Speaker 1: a Game seven, and then start a series where they're
Speaker 1: playing every other day for the entirety of it, basically,
Speaker 1: and there are too old and too thin of a
Speaker 1: team in order for that to be an effective path. Essentially,
Speaker 1: that is now where the Warriors are, and you saw
Speaker 1: it immediately. Bite Steph, a player who has never had
Speaker 1: a hamstring injury in his life, ended up having to
Speaker 1: play every other day against that Rockets defense running around
Speaker 1: like that. Windy said that since they've started tracking, this
Speaker 1: game seven against Houston was the most like mileage Steph
Speaker 1: has run on the court in a game in his career,
Speaker 1: and a quarter and a half into the next game
Speaker 1: he suffers his first ever hamstring injury. Like that, every
Speaker 1: game matters, and the Warriors kind of punted game five
Speaker 1: against Houston and then let go of the rope in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of Game six, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden they find themselves in a Game seven. And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you find yourself two days later
Speaker 1: playing in a Game one, and even though you win it,
Speaker 1: that's the ultimate when the battle lose the war. And
Speaker 1: so no, I listen. I think the Timberwolves. We were
Speaker 1: talking about three point regression with the Celtics. Timberwolves are
Speaker 1: now like twelve of seventy over their last two games
Speaker 1: or something insane. And so I don't I think that
Speaker 1: when we get it to Game five, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: three to one. I think we're gonna be I think
Speaker 1: the Minnesota's gonna win. The next three is the short
Speaker 1: version of it, and I think it's gonna be three
Speaker 1: to one going back to Minnesota. And here's the other piece.
Speaker 1: They ruled Steph out a week immediately, so game six
Speaker 1: is the earliest he could come back. That's probably not realistic.
Speaker 1: But even if he is back for game six, are
Speaker 1: you gonna get a fully healthy, fully functional Steph? I
Speaker 1: don't know, so, yeah, I think though. I think the
Speaker 1: Warriors are done. I think Kur has done a great job.
Speaker 1: I think Jimmy's been good and Draymond the last two games,
Speaker 1: to go along with what had been great defense, he
Speaker 1: actually provided some offensive punch. I don't think any of
Speaker 1: that's sustainable. What are your follow ups here?
Speaker 2: Oh, a couple follow ups.
Speaker 3: So Chris Finch, head coach, came out and said, we
Speaker 3: had one and a half one point in the first half.
Speaker 3: You're the leader of the team and you've got to
Speaker 3: come out and set the tone. If your SHOT's not going,
Speaker 3: you still have to carry the energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: How do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I so.
Speaker 1: Chris Finch is not afraid to kind of call out
Speaker 1: his star player, and Aunt clearly disagreed with him. Ant said,
Speaker 1: you know, I thought I just my shot wasn't falling.
Speaker 1: I was still there on defense. I I think Chris
Speaker 1: Finch has done a really good job. I also think
Speaker 1: that I it wouldn't make sense for Aunt to be tired.
Speaker 1: They only played five against the Lakers. It's only round two.
Speaker 1: He's twenty three years old. We did see last year
Speaker 1: he said he got exhausted by the conference finals. I
Speaker 1: am not yet ready to say I think that is happening.
Speaker 1: I am ready to say it is something to monitor.
Speaker 1: But I think Ant's gonna come out and be outstanding tonight,
Speaker 1: and you know, he finally hit some shots and he'll
Speaker 1: be fine. So I'm not I'm not panicked about that.
Speaker 1: And I also am not as angry at Aunt for
Speaker 1: the laughing about the three point shooting. Bru was pissed.
Speaker 1: Brew is like he's gotta be more serious. I just
Speaker 1: think Ant is so overly confident, that is so incredibly compident.
Speaker 1: I should say that sometimes he feels like everything's gonna
Speaker 1: be fine, and that can be a gift and a curse.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine.