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Speaker 1: Nor where you stand with on X. Welcome back, Johnny. Hey, thanks,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Phil, do you still have all the

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Speaker 1: Janice cuts Joannie off. Oh that'd be great. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: So Phil made twenty seven Yanni quotes and he could

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Speaker 1: Phil even set it up where you honestly had answers,

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Speaker 1: telling us though that. Uh. Folks that shoot collared Elk

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Speaker 1: This buck had a goofy name, like like Jumbo or whatever. Right,

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Speaker 1: They take the photos to a guy. Now, this is like,

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Speaker 1: I haven't fact checked Steve's gospel truth. I haven't fact

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Speaker 1: I'm intently listening, you, jerk uh, I'm right, so far right.

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Speaker 1: if you Yeah, it's not like we're like, it's not

422
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: like we sit around. We're like, you know what and

423
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: and uh, here here's where we'll put in a curse word. Yeah.

424
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: And what are you comparing it to Pocahonna's Grandma Willow? Yeah,

425
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: when we're on that raccoon has a foul mouth. You

426
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: know those movies like when they're watching like a I

427
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: don't know, like a like Fast and Furious or whatever,

428
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: they're like ha, this is horrible people cursing. Oh um, yeah,

429
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm alta shocked how few there are. Well, I feel

430
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: like we cut a lot of we cut a lot

431
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: of them out. I feel like bad curse words we

432
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: beat m But you gotta leave the beep in there

433
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: and the beep curse word because it's it shows the

434
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: emotion that was going through the person at that moment

435
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: when Ronnie being got a chegg by that b that's right. People,

436
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: we don't we hang with I don't feel like because

437
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: they're foul people, right, They just at times when emotions

438
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: run high, they tend to use a foul word, which

439
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: I think in the proper context is okay. We don't

440
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: hang around with sailors, so to speak. No, I'm not

441
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: good at sailing. Is there a difference between what was

442
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: coming out on cable and what's coming out on Netflix?

443
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: Do you think? No? I haven't. No, I don't. I

444
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: don't think that there's any No. I don't know. I

445
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: have to go like review because I just don't think

446
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: I feel like now and then like someone will say

447
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: like whatever, someone will say some little kind of innocuous

448
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: swear word. But you know the other thing I wonder

449
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: about is like, I don't know. Um, I'm not in jail. Uh,

450
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: I grew up like I can, I'm gonna I can,

451
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: dang sure, I can, dang sure tell you that what

452
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: I when I grew up, I would I was you know,

453
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: my my father hung out with a colorful crew of

454
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: individuals and my mother would get a little mad now

455
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: and then. And I was exposed as a young child

456
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: to dirty words. And I'm not in jail. I just

457
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: don't know if that's gonna be like the end of

458
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: someone to hear right, is it gonna be? It? Is it?

459
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be the end of someone to hear word?

460
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: And then their parents have to say, he just said

461
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: that word. He's older, don't say that. No, it's such

462
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: a self serving read in it. I'm gonna throw my

463
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: wife onto the bus because she's like, well, I don't

464
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: want my kids running around saying you know shit. I

465
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: heard someone else's boys say ship the other day. You know,

466
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: it's like, come on, Like, if my kids starts running

467
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: around saying it all the time, I'm gonna sit down

468
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: and have a conversation about when you say that when

469
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: you don't White kids shouldn't say it, you know, Yeah,

470
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: we have words for our kids. There's words you just

471
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: can't ever ever say. Yeah, your kids know them all,

472
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: don't they know? They don't know them all all but one.

473
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: And then there's one they don't know. They'll never know it.

474
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: So there's like words like they just hear stuff. I

475
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: mean they get they hang out with their uncle. I

476
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: don't know, they just they hear stuff. You're walking, you're

477
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: walking around at night and you trip on a matchbox

478
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: car and kids are always looking for that too, because

479
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, I don't know what that word is,

480
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: so what is it? If their mom says, if I

481
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 1: say something is in one, you're now with the other.

482
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: If their mom says something, they just fall in love

483
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: with it. There's like something about like you know what

484
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it does that. I just dadd it. But

485
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: their mom like trips on a matchbox car in the

486
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: middle of night, hurts her foot. That word becomes a

487
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: big part of everybody's life for a few days. They

488
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: all love it. But I'm like, there's like words you

489
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: do not like you are for I know you heard it,

490
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: never say that word. Then there's like we're explain why, right, Well,

491
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: you're get in trouble and people think you're a loser.

492
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: And then there's words were like yeah, I get it,

493
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: you can stay in the house around us, but don't

494
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: definitely don't say it at school. Well, you and I

495
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: had conversation with your oldest when we're heading out to

496
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: I think set uh crayfish traps over the summer where

497
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, well, ah, you probably shouldn't say it,

498
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: Like you gotta understand, like in certain circles, that would

499
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: be like the equivalent of you, like cutting somebody's head

500
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: off like that, right, Like you gotta It's it's hard

501
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 1: to like say, like so around here passable, you know

502
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: the net house over that would be like the kids

503
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: going too bad without dinner and I'm gonna get locked

504
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: up for a type of thing, right, Like how do

505
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: you explain it? Like you guys got a hard job. Yeah,

506
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: I like it. It's interesting to argue about or explain

507
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: to kids. Be like you have these things like these

508
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: words um and like we all agree that yellow like

509
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: when we look, we agree that there's a word y

510
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: E L l O W and that word represents this color.

511
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: And that's like how language functions. And you saw this

512
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: weird thing into it where there's like other words um

513
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: that we've all agreed are bad, but we use them

514
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: all the time. It's like you get into it's hard. Yeah,

515
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: sounds hard, and you're like, well, why those ones? You know,

516
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what. We just have all agreed that

517
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: that's bad and you need to get and you need

518
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: to get on board. Sign on the dotted line. Yeah,

519
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: we step back and look at it. It's quite childish

520
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: really to have those words like homett. So I know

521
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: hundreds of words you tell me that don't say that one. No, No,

522
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: that's right, that one don't use you know what those

523
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: some what's a what's a language? Uh? Professor, researcher And

524
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: so if you get into like the sort of history

525
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: of a word, it's the etymology. I don't know if

526
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: there are etymologists, but I know linguists study um. But

527
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: I guess we just have to have them for times

528
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: of extreme whatever happenstance and emotion. That's why we have

529
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: to have those words. That's why there's some I've been

530
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: using the word naughty. That's why there's some naughty. Like

531
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: if there's naughty words in the show, I guess I

532
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: would generally rather than not be there. Uh mean, we

533
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: don't go out our way to put them in there,

534
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,239
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of things that happened. They're like,

535
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: it's it's a style of filming. Um. Yeah, it's like

536
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: like verity filming. It's like a style of filming where

537
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: there's there's an artifice to it because you're putting people,

538
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: You're you're inviting people to come and hang out and

539
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: be on the show, and people are aware there's cameras

540
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: aimed at them, and it's artifice. There's uh there's a

541
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: performance taking place, but in the case of the show,

542
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: we do it like the performance is a real thing

543
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: that people actually do, meaning that what you're watching would

544
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: feasibly would feasibly be happening in the absence of cameras,

545
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: and in fact, most of people that are engaged in

546
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: it would probably almost absolutely be doing that or something

547
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: very similar in the absence of the camera. But you know,

548
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: there's cameras there, and it's not like a surprise. Everybody

549
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: knows they're they're there thirty six inches away from your

550
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: face sometimes, Like so it's a it's a it's a

551
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: distorted reality, but only slightly di started and you are

552
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: trying to capture real people in real moments and experiencing

553
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: real things and real emotions, and oftentimes you get those

554
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: in those moments come with um naughty words like naughty

555
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: or dirty. Better Maggie for the words description, dirty words,

556
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: curse words. There are dirty words that will happen, and

557
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: it would be when you weigh out, uh, like getting

558
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: rid of the moment in order to sanitize for for

559
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: people's sensitivities around language. You just kind of have this thing,

560
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: something's happened, where like that's a great moment, but that's

561
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: just too much, you know, it's too much, too much naughty,

562
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: too dirty to what's your take on the folks? Instead

563
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: of saying funing they get they say freaking. Oh man,

564
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: I would get in so much trouble when I was

565
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: a kid for that. He said, freaking. My dad hated

566
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: it because you're basically saying we've caught our older boys

567
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: saying it freaking. We're like, no, no, no no, no, it's

568
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: the same thing. I have the same person of my dad.

569
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: It's like, my dad's like, we're going to treat it

570
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: like you just said it because you're saying it, Yeah,

571
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: you're playing a game. I remember the the worst bust

572
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: that we ever really care about the kids doing it.

573
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: I want to know how you feel about like adults,

574
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: because I know some adults that have like a I say,

575
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: a clean esque so they lead a clean as you know,

576
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: path through life. And so instead of saying the real

577
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: course where they say freaking, I'm like, yeah, but I

578
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: do it, but I do it now. And then Rogan's

579
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 1: teased me for saying freaking and uh, and the guys,

580
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: the um the outfitters were with him wyoming. They don't

581
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: like to swear. Did you catch them saying freaking? No? No,

582
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: definitely not. Yeah, no, I told you I honor. They're

583
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: like they have like they have they speak with honor,

584
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: honorable lives and speak with honor. But they will say

585
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: like something like son of the Buck or something like that,

586
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, that's like really like a conscious

587
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: decision to like portray a conscious decision to with your

588
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: language demonstrate a ethic or you know, um, and yeah,

589
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm in her. I guess I'm just interesting language. The

590
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: worst time I was really quick story because I remember

591
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: it so vividly, The worst time we got busted, Like

592
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: I think the moment when we all knew that we

593
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: all swore a lot, and our dad knew we swore

594
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: a lot. Was my brother Matt. We had a live

595
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: well like my dad. You know those things like bread racks.

596
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: If you go to a grocer store, you know that

597
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: they got that thing. You roll around and it's got

598
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: those plastic mesh shelves and you put all the loaves

599
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: of bread on there. My old man would make live

600
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: wells by getting one, two, three, six of those and

601
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: zip tieing them together and then put attaching styre foam

602
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: floats and making a hinged lid, so just be like

603
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: a like a plastic mesh box that could float around.

604
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: You tie it to the end of your dock and

605
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: you can put fishing there. And I remember we got

606
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: back from we've been fishing open night of bass season,

607
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: like going out at midnight, and we caught a bunch

608
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: of bass and threw him in the live well, and

609
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: someone didn't fasten the lid down, and I remember Matt

610
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: laying on the end of our dock, like bending over

611
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: at the waist. So he's laying on the dock but

612
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: bent over at the waist, fishing around in the live well.

613
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: Distraught about all the fish that got away, like they

614
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: someone didn't close the latch, and he's down there just

615
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: carrying on. And I look and here's the old man

616
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: coming out the dock. But also he's just like there

617
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: and it's too late, and mag can't seeks his heads

618
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: down in the live well and he's just curse like

619
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: raising hell, and my dad's coming and I can't notify

620
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: him because I'd get busted notifying him. Oh yeah, I

621
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: remember being like, oh man, now everybody just knows everything.

622
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: It's all out in the open. They will never be

623
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: the same. And of the innocence. A question for Maggie

624
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: that came up. There's two questions. My favorite people say,

625
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: what's my was My favorite episode of workout was one

626
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: of the magazine Meg and Tracy. It's the best episode,

627
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: Maggie's first turkey hunt. Screwed it up. Just watch it.

628
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: It's great. Yep, now everyone can see that I screwed

629
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: it up. Can watch it on repeat. By far, my

630
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: favorite episode. So Maggie went through hunter safety. Um. But

631
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: the episode ends and you're talking about how you wanted

632
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: to go back out, and you said you go back

633
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: out on Wednesday, and some persons like that, you go

634
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: back out on Wednesday. I unfortunately did not too much

635
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: work to do, but Yannie gotta go out. Yeah, edit

636
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: have as much work to do. Oh yeah, if you

637
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: watch the if you watch the episode we're talking about,

638
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: you know, the bird sneaky Pete. Yeah, and yeah he

639
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: went back and got my ass hand to me again.

640
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: I was I was pretty much brining his breasts as

641
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: I was sitting there in the dark. I mean I

642
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: couldn't have been definitely closer than fifty yards the tree

643
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: that I was leaning against, the tree that he was

644
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: perched in. And when you went back solo, Yeah, I

645
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: thought there was no way. And it was funny too

646
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: because I snuck in there in the dark and I

647
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: hadn't heard him gobble. I sit down, and I was

648
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: there for at least but you just knew where he'd be.

649
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: He was in the same tree man every time. So yeah,

650
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 1: I was going I was going for broke hero or zero.

651
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: I kind of ended up with something in between, because

652
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: I got the hero because I sat there for ten

653
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: minutes in the dark long enough to start second guessing

654
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: myself and to think, well, maybe I should try to

655
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 1: salvage the morning and go look for you know, trying

656
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: to strike up another gobbler, and all of a sudden gobbles.

657
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, he's right there, you know, and I'm

658
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: here and I haven't like moved, I haven't no noise

659
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: for ten minutes, like no call and nothing. I wasn't

660
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: gonna call. I was gonna just let him fly down

661
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: in front of my gun barrel. And at that point

662
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: we were like, hey, but do you want to just

663
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: jump in the truck. It was basically over. Yeah, pretty much. Man.

664
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: I did know what strip was because we had hanging

665
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: right here in our studio, uh, our our probability thing. Yeah,

666
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: he had two landing strips that we knew of that

667
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: we knew knew that he had, you know, kind of

668
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: we never saw him actually fly down, but we he

669
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: would appear and we'd see which way he went, and

670
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: twice we watched him, so we knew he had gone

671
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: two different directions. I definitely had one. It was the

672
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: same direction that we set up Maggie and I set

673
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: up where we had him come by us. I had

674
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: set up on that same sort of general old path.

675
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: I thought I had set up kind of choked in

676
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: tight enough on him that if he went to the

677
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: other way, I would catch a glimpse of him. Well, somehow,

678
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't He didn't gobble as hard

679
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: as he had earlier in the week that morning, and

680
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: maybe got twenty gobbles off the tree, and then he

681
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: hit the ground and didn't make another peep until he

682
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: was yards away. Where did he hit the ground, like,

683
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: let's say he's at the center of the clock you're

684
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: at I don't know for sure, but somewhere between three

685
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: and nine, you know, so on the far end of

686
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: the clock. If but if he so, wouldn't work just

687
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: to lean against Sneaky Pete's tree because he pitches up

688
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: too far out. Plus, how are you going to get

689
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: in there? Because he got all day to get in there,

690
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: and when he's coming out. For a fact, Sneaky Pete

691
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: comes back to the same tree every night. Why can't

692
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: you sit with your back to the tree. You could

693
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: do that for sure. Why didn't you guys? This was

694
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: a morning hunt? Why why didn't you do that? Well,

695
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: we just about did. Why didn't you do it that

696
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: night when you went back solo? I did that. I

697
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: was a morning hunt. When you just hang out and

698
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: then because I was at work by like hunted in

699
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: for an hour and left. We did go out though

700
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: one other morning, but not sneaky Pete. Yeah, Maggie, I

701
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: went hunting turkeys and other more so you did do

702
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: a turkey return. Yeah, but we didn't even have the

703
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: same zone though. We just we just wanted locally here

704
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: in Bozeman. Nothing, nothing, not even I was very impressed with.

705
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: And I kind of want to know if this is

706
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: like this for people that watched the episode. But um,

707
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: I had bumped into Maggie earlier this week or last week.

708
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: I said, I mean, I haven't watched that yet. I

709
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: gotta watch that. And then uh watched it, and I

710
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: was amazed at like how even though I knew what

711
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: the outcome was, how I was like, shoot at like

712
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: I wanted Maggie to have that type of success so

713
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: badly that like part of my brain was still like

714
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: she can still make it happy. When we started cutting

715
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: the episode, months went by, we started calling the episode.

716
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: In the minute I finally got to watch, I wasn't

717
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: there at the moment and I was off doing my

718
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: own thing. When I got to watch the footage, I

719
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: just immediately called her for me like four times. I

720
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: was like, I just I just don't understand what what

721
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: you're thinking? I was too much thinking too much. It's frozen.

722
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: Are you gonna have you? Did you hear from people

723
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: that when the show came out? Did you hear people

724
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: you hadn't heard from in a long time? Yeah, a

725
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: lot of people from high school? And what do they

726
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: have to say? Like, what were you thinking? They were

727
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: just still No one called you a dog on you.

728
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: I think they were more like jealous of the opportunity

729
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: that I was given high schoolers tons of Minnesota. Yeah,

730
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: tons of guys from high school. I from high school

731
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: and the old flames people don't say people will say

732
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: that anymore. Well I was, I was a nerd in

733
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: high school. So is there right? Huh? Yeah? Bad val Victorian?

734
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: Is that right? Good deal? Meg? I made a lot

735
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: of friends by helping people cheat. Um, you can do

736
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: a little hunt in this fall. It's not on the

737
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: agenda right now, but I wouldn't be against it. You

738
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: don't have a single hunt planned. That's not true, because

739
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: I heard a rumor this morning about a little hunt plan.

740
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: I thought maybe with HANSI, but he already did duck camp.

741
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was done. He just did it

742
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: for like a week. Oh yeah, but you don't you

743
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: just want to do like the early mornings around here. Yeah, yeah,

744
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: we didn't make that happen. Okay. I heard someone mentioned

745
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: getting you out on a little white tailed dough excursion

746
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: began this is what I heard. You're willing, but you haven't.

747
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: Like so what You're one of the people we always

748
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: hear about. There's this big conversation in this country and

749
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: in the sporting community about uh, our three and what

750
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: our three is? In and in and in and and

751
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: and and recruitment, retention, reactivation of hunters. Um my brother

752
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: is vehemently opposed to it, and and I understand where

753
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: he's coming from, Like, why would you want more people

754
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: on the woods? Sorry? Crowded? But um, you're like a

755
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: case study because the thing is you can what they

756
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 1: find is you can take it. You get a new hunter,

757
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: you take them out hunting, you show them a great time. Um,

758
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: but then they don't go out. They don't go out

759
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: there like, oh, that was the greatest thing I've ever seen.

760
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I did it. But then they don't,

761
00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: on their own volition go back out so what is

762
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: preventing you too? Busy, really busy. But I don't know.

763
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: I think like to go with other people. I still

764
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: think I have a lot to learn. You need more

765
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: and I feel like tote more confidence out there were toutelage. Yes,

766
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: but I have a lot to learn, and I go

767
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: out by myself as much as I can. Yeah. Yeah,

768
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I'm still intimidated by it too. Yeah.

769
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 1: Where do you think Meggie is in the oar threes?

770
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: Because technically she's been recruited, I mean because she bought

771
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: the license, right, it's still it's still recruitment phase. Yeah,

772
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: it's not like reactivation. It's like you went out turkey. Yeah,

773
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: she might be somewhere between recruitment and she might be

774
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: like our one point five another. Okay, go ahead and

775
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: rip one out. Question. I got a I got a

776
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: couple of saves. Man, Well, why don't you go let

777
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: me look at this list? Oh you want to take

778
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: a look at the list? I got NB one. Uh,

779
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: how do you all spend so much time together and

780
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: yet maintain such good friendship? That's a good question, but

781
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't Uh, we don't have the problem of Um,

782
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: I don't know why you don't. We don't have the

783
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: problem with people getting of we had directed directly at

784
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: you and I when I read it, and I think

785
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: that they have a distorted view of how much time

786
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: we spend together. I spend more time with you than

787
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: I do with my wife. Come on, not quite. Yeah,

788
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time together, but nuts on a dog.

789
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean, look at it now. We've been trying to

790
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: have a meeting for at least a week because we

791
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: haven't been out filling it and we haven't had it.

792
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: We haven't been able to get that done. Okay, I'll

793
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: never see you, Johnnie. I don't know. We get into

794
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: we have some scuffles. Yeah, but I was gonna say

795
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: if we had the time, we'd probably we'd hang out

796
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: more because we'd go hunting and fishing together. But rise,

797
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: um to guilt ridden more. At home, we're trying to

798
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: be like how you're supposed to act. And in the

799
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: wintertime I turned into a skier and you don't know

800
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: you like ski Maggie raced growing up. It was not

801
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: an Annie's level. But um, yeah, I don't think that

802
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: it's I've never had it. Uh, We've had some disagreements

803
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: but never had uh, never had a problem. But I

804
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: think it also really it's something that like reinforced itself

805
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: because at this point, if we were going to not

806
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: get along, we have not gotten along a long time ago.

807
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: That's right, But there's something to be said that, like

808
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: a huge part of this job is communication too, and

809
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: you guys are practiced skilled communicators, so and that's just

810
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: not something a lot of folks are good at and obviously,

811
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: oh you guys probably aren't good at it twenty four

812
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: hours a day. You mean, the ability to always be like,

813
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: here's what I'm thinking. Here's what I'm thinking. I understand

814
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: where you're coming from, but here's what I'm thinking. Let

815
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: me explain this again. This is yeah, right, not a

816
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: whole lot of tongue biting. Yeah yeah, that's actually probably. Um,

817
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: the lack of tongue biting can burn I probably can

818
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: burn things out, but I think it's like done in

819
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: the right way with a certain level of maturity. Um,

820
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: a lack of tongue biting is probably good. Absolutely, I

821
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: would agree a hundred percent. Maggie's very good at this.

822
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: She lack of tongue biting. Yeah, yeah, because you I

823
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: said something to Maggie. UM, and she immediately clarified, like, hey,

824
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: you you said this to me. This is like a

825
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: five minute time lapse. Is this what you intended by that?

826
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh god, no, I was like

827
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: I was just joking around and really yeah. And and

828
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: in turn, I said, hey, thank you very much for

829
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: for you know, following up on that, because that would

830
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: have been that rather than spending all week thinking you

831
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: meant something, you said something that you didn't say for

832
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: months for some people. Right. And then it's like, well

833
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: Ryan thinks this, Well, thanks very I think that's part

834
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: of just my job too. Yeah, let one rip, Ronnie Man,

835
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: you got one, I know, you gotta go. You want

836
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: to pick one out? Do one? Then you can pick

837
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: one out. In the Blue Mountain Bugle episode, which is

838
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: the Archery Elk episode in Washington, Um, we lost some

839
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: of that elk me in this uh fellow road in

840
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: Can I say their Instagram handle? No? I would. I

841
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: kind of like his. I like it too. How much

842
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: meat did you love? Is from that elk? And how

843
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: do you decipher between good and spoiled meat? That's a

844
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: great question because it's hard to do. And I had

845
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: now in hindsight, and we spent a lot of time

846
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: farting around with it. Yeah, in hindsight, I feel that

847
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: I was, Um, I'm trying to think. I don't know

848
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: if it be I was gonna say that I was

849
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: too conservative or too liberal, but I don't know which

850
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: how we will apply here in hindsight, Um, I was

851
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: thinking things were closer to bad than they were because

852
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: nothing I've pulled out of my freezer and thought, whatever,

853
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: that smells like a smell of souring flesh, and once

854
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: it gets in your nose, it's like trapped in your

855
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: nose for a long time. I think, And I think

856
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: that you start psyching yourself out and you're thinking that

857
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: everything right. You can't get like a clean you can't

858
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: almost get like a clean palate. So thoughts of out

859
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: of my freezing now, I thought out and like smells

860
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: smells like elk, Yeah, but smell any other way. Well, No,

861
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: remember that morning we were I don't know if it

862
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: was maybe it was the afternoon, and it was the

863
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: afternoon before that, our last afternoon they after we had

864
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: packed it out, we were taking chunks of meat off

865
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: a certain areas that were questionable and cooking them yeah,

866
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: and doing a little just fried in the pan will

867
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: catch up on the side. I took some pictures of

868
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: that taste testing. Yeah, because you can get like some

869
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: iridescent meat coloration, right, just like even at home, we're

870
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: kind of you can see it in the meat counter

871
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: now then yeah, yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong

872
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: with iridescence. It doesn't mean that it's getting fresh. It

873
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: doesn't you're a desk on the carcass. Yeah, but yeah,

874
00:53:55,400 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: so it's hard to like, yeah, just do a visual inspection.

875
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,479
Speaker 1: And obviously the nose can give you away. The one

876
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: big game animal that I've got where it was just

877
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: you couldn't do anything with it. Um, we did, like

878
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: the smell thing was just getting overwhelming, and we would

879
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: cook pieces of it and butter and then go out.

880
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: We're like processing it in the kitchen, cook pieces and

881
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: buttered and go outside to just get in the total

882
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: fresh air and then taste it. And everybody you're like, god,

883
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: it is not like we were, like, it is not

884
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: in my imagination, man, It is rank that bull I

885
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: lost in New Mexico this year. I started cutting the

886
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: thing open, and um, the bile was coming up through

887
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: the ham m m really yes, Like it was swelled

888
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: up so badly that the height it like lifted off

889
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: of the face and everything. But I was like, well,

890
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: because it was less than twenty four hours, and I

891
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: was like, well, the if something's gonna be good, it's

892
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: gonna be it's got to be like the top of

893
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: this backstrap because it's not underneath the weight of the elk.

894
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: And then when it'd gotten like the full effect of

895
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,959
Speaker 1: the sun and and yeah, man, I peeled that hide

896
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: back and and like bile was coming up like impossibly,

897
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: it seemed through the meat. H Uh. I wanna give

898
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: this a cleaner answer. Lost more meat than I'd would

899
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: ever want to have happened again, like top chunks of

900
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: the back, hams, anything around the ball, joint um, tenderloins.

901
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: It's like some of the like the part the on

902
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: the downside, part of the animal, like the like the

903
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: heavy part of the shoulder, A lot of stuff. I mean,

904
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: some of the knack um, but certainly not. But I

905
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: mean it's like it was felt like a real disaster

906
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, I mean, just who wants to remember

907
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: one time losing uh, killing the bull one night with

908
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: my bro and I don't know why we thought I

909
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: was gonna get cold that night, and we were afraid

910
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: to open it up because of grizzly bears. And we're like,

911
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: let's just gonna sleep for a little bit and come

912
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: back right at daybreak. And we had lost just handfuls

913
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: of meat from around the ball joints on the back

914
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 1: legs and being like, man, I'll never have that happen again,

915
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: And it happened again. But in terms of like the testing,

916
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: I think there's I guess it's like there's there's three things.

917
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: Some of it like the bull I'm talking about that

918
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: lost my brother when we didn't want to guts we

919
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: didn't want bears to find it or to decrease whatever

920
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: percent decrease the chances of a bear finding by not

921
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: gutting it um and just not know, not want to

922
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: be out there all night massing with it, just being

923
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 1: dumb and lazy. Uh. Color greenish blue, like greenish blue

924
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: color you can get like meat will sour and will

925
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: get a color to it, and you know what you're

926
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: looking at when you see it, you buy that yeah smell.

927
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: And then finally the I guess the only the one

928
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: that the only one that really matters is taste, and

929
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 1: so sometimes you'll see it it'll be green greenish blue

930
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: and have a bruised look to it. That's souring. And

931
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: then the smell is just it smells like what you

932
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: think it smells like. It smells like something that's starting

933
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: to rot. And the taste'll start to get slimier too. Yeah,

934
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: that's a good point. Very soft rotten meat is soft.

935
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: You can you can put a finger into it. You

936
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: can run a finger into rotten meat. Yeah, if you've

937
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about that lates. I've been doing some butchering,

938
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: and you can definitely. Um, just when I start handling

939
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: the meat, I'm thinking to myself, this is gonna be

940
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: tender or this is not gonna be tender eating And

941
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: certainly the longer it hangs, the more it gets that. Yeah,

942
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: because you can get or I have messing around with aging,

943
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: you get that enzyme layer. It's kind of like, all

944
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you have an extra layer of liquid

945
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: on the meat that wasn't there before. Um, that's a

946
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: that's real roll of the dice. It's like, you know,

947
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: you gotta do something with it right then. But yeah,

948
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: oddly enough, never lost anything doing that that's some tender

949
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: meat you got when you want to rip out now, Maggie, Yeah,

950
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: just because you know I'm part of the production team.

951
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: What's the hardest part of hunting with a large production team?

952
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: Does it ever play a role on how many chances

953
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: you had with animals? There's some things you gain, some things.

954
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: There's some things you gained you things you lose alto.

955
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: Don't think our team after being out there is that big.

956
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean you guys really go you know, small team

957
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: well when you comparative being by yourself for people's a

958
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: lot or whatever. There's things you gain and things you lose. Um,

959
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: the extra eyeballs are absolutely nice, especially when you're just

960
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: having like a big old glass in session on top

961
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: of a hill and you're not spooking anything anyways, you're

962
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: just looking. It's like the extra eyeballs. It's great. And

963
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: we have some camera guys that even bring their own binoculars.

964
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: There's nothing to do. They like to glass. They just

965
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: think it's fun to glass. And yeah, you pick up

966
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: They pick up a lot of stuff, so you're seeing

967
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: a lot more stuff up close. It's just harder. Water

968
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: foul is just harder. It's just harder. Um, all in all,

969
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely not beneficial all in all, but um,

970
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: you know the extra eyeballs is interesting. Mhm uh. But yeah,

971
00:59:54,560 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: up close stuff is can be tough. Yeah, And um,

972
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: there's a tendency. I think the on camera people have

973
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,479
Speaker 1: a tendency to want to blame everything on the camera people.

974
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: That's the first place I go. Someone did something like

975
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: I never speak anything. It's always he's ever with me,

976
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: right uh. And and there's a spirited there's a there's

977
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: a there's like a spirited friendly tension um that goes

978
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: on where you're paying people to do a job, and

979
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: their job is to film stuff, and they need to

980
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: film the stuff, and so there a good camera guy

981
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: um is willing to take whatever abuse they need to

982
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: take to like respectfully get the coverage they need to get.

983
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: On the other hand, from my perspective, I'm like, I'm

984
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: interested in making a good show. A thing that will

985
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: help us have a good show is having some action.

986
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: You're preventing us from having a good show, yes, by

987
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: fidgeting around too much, but it never comes to blows.

988
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: I'd be curious your honest's perspective on it. I don't

989
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: know if I have much to add. Thank you pretty

990
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: much at the nail and head there. Um Ducks is

991
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: tough play a role in how many chance you had

992
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: with the animals. I really like um that. You know, you're,

993
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: like you said, you're paying people to round a camera

994
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: and the people that run cameras part of what they're

995
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: doing is always looking for like pretty things and interesting things.

996
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's it's just I I enjoy

997
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: being in the woods with people who are like, it's

998
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: not a big giant bow elk, but it's just like

999
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: a really cool, you know, lin covered rock, or you know,

1000
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: all sorts of little detail things that are really cool

1001
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: that make up a good experience in the woods. And

1002
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: and I always like that. But there are always those

1003
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: times where you're like, yeah, I wouldn't have been moving

1004
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: right there, but it took us a long time to

1005
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: get over here. It's it. We put a lot of

1006
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: pressure on him. It's a tough job because if they

1007
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: don't get the shot in the field because they were

1008
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: sitting behind you, because all the hunters never want the

1009
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: camera guys to get out in front of them for

1010
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: obvious reasons, you know they're gonna break the skyline before

1011
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: you do, they're not gonna be looking etcetera, etcetera. Um.

1012
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: But then when we get back and you're in the

1013
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: editing studio, like, where's the shot? How come there's no

1014
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: shots of me walking out the camera? It's like, well,

1015
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: dumb mass because you were yelling to stay behind and

1016
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: stay low the whole time, you know. So it doesn't

1017
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: make for a fun edit or interesting at it either.

1018
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: But it's just behind the good the good guys, the good,

1019
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: really good ones. They know it so well and they've

1020
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: been out so much that they know, like you're going

1021
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: up a hill and they'll know if they want to

1022
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: get out front to get a walking towards shot. They're

1023
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: like reading the landscape all the time and they know

1024
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: that like at the top of the hill, they're gonna

1025
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: shoot me if I crest over the top of the

1026
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: hill before they get there, and so they'll like run

1027
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: out and get their shots. And they're kind of like

1028
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: watching the top of the hill thing because then they

1029
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: know at the top of the hill they better be

1030
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: back behind you in case you crest over and see something.

1031
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: And they start to it's fun when I can't when

1032
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: you get someone who's so so schooled in it that

1033
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: they're that they're doing all that in their head. You know,

1034
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: they know like when you get up to spot and

1035
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: you first sit down the glass, they know to hold tight.

1036
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: Then you kind of like get a good look around.

1037
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's nothing immediately around. They'll get up and

1038
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,439
Speaker 1: do what they gotta do and and then it's fun.

1039
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: You know. Then the tension levels go way down when

1040
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: they really know the situation. But we don't have camera

1041
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: guys that come We don't work with camera guys that

1042
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: really come out of a hunting background. That's a tough

1043
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: thing to find. Yeah, I would ride of someone that

1044
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,439
Speaker 1: knows how to film more than those how to hunt.

1045
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: I think it's probably easier to learn. You've come around then, yeah, slowly,

1046
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,959
Speaker 1: begrudgingly I have. I have. I mean it'd be great both,

1047
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, but grudgingly I have because it's just the one,

1048
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: like no one which shooters just work the best, right,

1049
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, the shooters we have that are just like such.

1050
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: We have a bunch of great shooters, but the shooters

1051
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: we have that are just really special ones that are

1052
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: kind of like part of the family. They didn't come

1053
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: out of that m hm. You know they always have

1054
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: lens cloths. That's great. Yeah, when my binoculars get messed up,

1055
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: like Leah, they know how to keep stuff dry. How

1056
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: much scouting goes into each of the new locations you hunt, man,

1057
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: it's that's a weird. While I try to answer this

1058
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: one quickly because I feel like we talked about it,

1059
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: so we go to we're always filming in new places.

1060
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: We're rarely filming in a place that we hang out

1061
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: a whole bunch. But we have fashionally over the years

1062
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: developed such a network of contacts and can kind of

1063
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: really like find anyone anywhere within two or three phone calls.

1064
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: Usually that it's we don't scout the way most people

1065
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: are forced to scout. We like a lot of people

1066
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: to scout, like the old fashioned way, like map breeding,

1067
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: you know, looking at airal images, which we do. But

1068
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: a lot of our stuff, just as we know so

1069
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: many people and are well connected, that a lot of

1070
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: our scouting is people being like, yea, I'm at a

1071
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: hunting it two years ago, and you should check this out,

1072
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: check that out, check this out, check that out. Um,

1073
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: we just have a different scouting method. Yeah, as far

1074
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: as species go, we don't really dive into deep because

1075
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: usually well, I don't know. I think we like learning

1076
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: kind of on the go while we're there, and it

1077
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: makes for interesting content when we're learning while we're filming,

1078
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: right because you can then kind of sort of take

1079
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: the view along with you through that ride about what

1080
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: you're learning, whether it's about the landscape or the animals. Um.

1081
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: But I think sometimes it can hurt us too when

1082
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: you get like one, we have a busy schedule, so

1083
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: it's not like we have one big hunt lined up

1084
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna research it all summer long

1085
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: and go and scout at one time during the summer

1086
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: and get ready for it. We have a bunch of

1087
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: hunts going on. So sometimes I feel like it hurts

1088
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: because we're just not doing as much research as we could.

1089
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: It's we're a little bit flying through the night and uh,

1090
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: you know, getting some hot tips from some guys and

1091
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: just hitting the ground going, you know. And it's fine

1092
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: when we have a great time and we have success

1093
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: and we get it done. But I think that if

1094
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: you you know, put ten times more effort into the

1095
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: research and scouting, we would do better. You know, a

1096
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: good example of one we talked about would be Um

1097
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: where we filmed, where we filmed started out film him

1098
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 1: in the Turkey episode that you, Maggie, Um and Tracy

1099
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: were in. Is one of the guys we worked with

1100
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: had heard some birds gobbling right where we started, but

1101
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: then it took five minutes to realize that that's not happening.

1102
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: And then any sort of like quote unquote scouting that

1103
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: we had done was basically someone saying, hey, there were

1104
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: some birds here whatever last spring or the spring before,

1105
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: they were ripping right here, and they weren't there. And

1106
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: then from then on we were just off to the races,

1107
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: running around, flying by the seat of your pants, figuring

1108
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: it out. Kelly, got any faiths Um? I mean, there's

1109
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good stuff on there, but I

1110
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: feel like we kind of hit some of it often.

1111
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: But you don't have one killing. I don't have one.

1112
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: You have there ever been someone someone asked this question?

1113
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: This is a good question. Have there ever been any

1114
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: planned episode hunts that have turned out so bad they

1115
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: never aired? I like that question too. The answer is yes, yes.

1116
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: Next question one or one one for sure, kind of

1117
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: two one for sure kind of too. So we want

1118
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: to be using a fair bit of one once. Uh

1119
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 1: you answer refreshment, well, not refreshed. I know which ones

1120
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: I think you're talking about. We did. We we one

1121
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: time did sort of this like homage to mule Deer

1122
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: long ago and told from an ill fated mule Deer

1123
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: hunt pulled footage. But yeah, we've done a hundred and

1124
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: twenty some episodes now something like that. Yeah, and the

1125
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 1: only one that actually that we just fully didn't use

1126
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: was the bear Hunt, right, yeah, twenty some episodes and

1127
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: there's one time. There's one thing we didn't use. One

1128
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: of my proudest I think sort of I don't know

1129
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: if it's in a acomplishment. I guess it could be

1130
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: an accomplishment, but as a producer of the show is

1131
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: that we went to do another episode of Sooty Grouse

1132
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: with Barbara a second time around, and it wasn't until

1133
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: some point, at some point during that episode, we started thinking,

1134
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,919
Speaker 1: you know what, we might have a pretty good prequel

1135
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: to this. We should look at that footage that we

1136
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: think is so bad that there and there is no

1137
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: episode there. And we went and looked at it, and

1138
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,759
Speaker 1: we said, you know what, there is an an episode

1139
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 1: here and it will be a great prequel to the

1140
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: one with Barbara and so were. I'm proud to have

1141
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: resurrected one that was in the camp. We're not in

1142
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: the camp. How would you say it was in the cards?

1143
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 1: Just chopped. So someone's wondering one hunting out of state

1144
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: or out of the country, Let's just keep it to

1145
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: out of state. What are the logistics when traveling with

1146
01:09:55,680 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: the meat and firearms? Firearms are easy, easy to travel with. Uh,

1147
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: it's just easy. You take your ammunition. Your ammunition has

1148
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: to be in a box designed to hold ammunition. It's

1149
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: best is to carry your ammunition around in the box

1150
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: that you bought it in. But if you're a handloader

1151
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: or whatever and you use those little plastic what's that

1152
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 1: company MGM, not MGM M, t M MTM case whatever

1153
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,799
Speaker 1: the hell? You keep your ammo in a box designed

1154
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 1: to hold ammo and slap a label on it make

1155
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: it obvious it's ammo. Yeah, Like, you're probably going to

1156
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: run into some issues if, for some odd reason you

1157
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: had a bunch of thirty six rounds jammed inside a

1158
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: toothpaste to or Yeah, no, no, no, that would be illegal. Yep, Yeah,

1159
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna probably question you like, oh no, it's in

1160
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: a box. It's in my travel tooth paste box. They'll

1161
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: not like that. Has Yeah, this box made designed for

1162
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: carrying ammunition. That's a good point. I'm not following that.

1163
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: If you just had a box, you think it's great

1164
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: for carrying ammo, but it wasn't like an AMMO box. No,

1165
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: it stays specifically, it's got to be designed to carry ammunitions.

1166
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: That can't be a toothpaste box. Yeah, And I was

1167
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: thinking along the path of why would somebody make that

1168
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: point specifically. It's probably because I said in a box, Um,

1169
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: that can go well, I think in your regular Duffel

1170
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 1: bag yep, or or in your case. But that being said,

1171
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: all these things that we're going to talk about now,

1172
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 1: you should. It depends. It's not so much a T

1173
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 1: s A. They have some rules too, but the separate

1174
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: airlines have separate rules. So before you fly, you should

1175
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: just go to their web page look up traveling. But

1176
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell people how to do it, and tell

1177
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: people right now, and you're gonna you're gonna try to

1178
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: cloud it by talking about what am I gonna try

1179
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: to cloud because yes, with some airlines you're allowed to

1180
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: put your AMMO in the case, but oftentimes the people

1181
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: at the counter don't know the rules and that puzzles them.

1182
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 1: I always print out the page on the airline website.

1183
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: I was building this up as how easy it was,

1184
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: and all everybody's doing is making it seem hard. Well,

1185
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: just okay, go ahead, Air Canada, man, they are the worst.

1186
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: That's why I say we're going to keep it to

1187
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: travel within the country. But I always just print out

1188
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: the page and I say, I was like, hey, I

1189
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 1: will do whatever you guys want to make this process easier.

1190
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: But this is what your airline says to do. Here

1191
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: is that they print out from from your website. I've

1192
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,799
Speaker 1: I've had to do that in the past. Is refer

1193
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: someone to their own policy? Yes, Can I just do

1194
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 1: it in a very nice way? Can I get back

1195
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: to tell how easy it is a fail safe way.

1196
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 1: A box or two of AAML. I can't have more

1197
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: than seven pounds of it. You gotta get you can't

1198
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 1: have more. This is per airline. You can't have more

1199
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 1: than eleven which is which, trust me, is a lot

1200
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: of a box or two of amel in the box

1201
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 1: you bought it in and put that in your deffel bag.

1202
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: Put your deffel bag. Don't just put it in there,

1203
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: however you wanna put it in there. And you take

1204
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 1: your firearm and you get a case and your firearms unloaded,

1205
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 1: and you don't have anything else in the case, and

1206
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 1: you just have a gun case. It's a hard sided

1207
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: lockable gun case. And you have a t s a

1208
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: lock or a padlock for every lock spot on the case.

1209
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: Meaning if there's four padlock holes four padlocks, that's why

1210
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: you want to buy a two padlock hole hard case.

1211
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: You get a two padlock whole hard case. I use

1212
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:51,560
Speaker 1: bot and Pelican. Put your padlocks on there. You walk in,

1213
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: you say, I have two bags, a check one of

1214
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: what this is the language I always use, one of

1215
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: which is a firearm. They will then handle all the

1216
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: declaration that says I do hereby swear my gun's empty.

1217
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: You sign it, you put it in there. They either

1218
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: put it on the belt or they have you taken

1219
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: over to the excess baggage place and you hang tight

1220
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: because someone's gonna inspect it. They inspect it, make sure

1221
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: it's not pack full of bombs, and then you go

1222
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: on your way. And when you go to pick it up.

1223
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: It doesn't come out in the luggage carousel used to

1224
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 1: not too long ago, but now it will come out

1225
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: in the special bag, like where you go to file

1226
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 1: a claim. When you they lose your bags, they'll hold it.

1227
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: You go and show them your I d they hand

1228
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: your things. Sometimes I put a big zip tie around

1229
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: the box. Nothing to it. It's supposed to all put

1230
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: a big Giants title on it. Man, that sounds easy,

1231
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:50,560
Speaker 1: Steve Dude. Easy Now with meat, Man, We've done a

1232
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: hundred things. I'm gonna try to give the most typical way,

1233
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: the most typical best way to do it. You go

1234
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: off some other place, you go out of state. Let's

1235
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: say you go to Maryland and you get to seek

1236
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 1: a deer and you want to bring it home. Um now,

1237
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, maybe your uncle has a processing shop. Whatever.

1238
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about, like normal, just normal, how we

1239
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 1: would do it. We would get our dear, bone it

1240
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 1: out and leave it in big primary cuts, so like

1241
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: bone the thing out, put it in gallon size ziplocks,

1242
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: and in the perfect world, put a good freeze on it,

1243
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: or some freeze on it. Get a cold put a

1244
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 1: freeze on it. Whatever you do and then load it

1245
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: into uh Yetie hoppers. Forties were great forties no longer

1246
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: made the thirties because of Yetie hopper. You're allowed to

1247
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: check fifty pounds per box. If you have a big

1248
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: like a big hard sided cooler, you're eating up your

1249
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: poundage with the cooler, but with the hoppers. The hoppers

1250
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 1: weigh six seven pounds, so when you check fifty pounds,

1251
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: you're actually legit. You're checking forty three pounds of boneless

1252
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: meat and only seven pounds is the cooler. So we

1253
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 1: zip it into hoppers um and fly home. And then

1254
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: when you get home, thrown in the freezer, or if

1255
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 1: you got time, sorted out and package at all how

1256
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: you want it. But if not, if we're leaving again

1257
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: on another hunt, we'll take those gallons size zip blocks,

1258
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: put them in a freezer, and then in the winter,

1259
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 1: when you get time, pull them back out, let him

1260
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: fall enough to break them apart, trim them whatever you

1261
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: want to do, get him recipe ready, and then go

1262
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: back in the freezer. And people would be like, they'll

1263
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 1: make this sound that I often they'll make a sound

1264
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: like the dude, the dude, you can't freeze it and

1265
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: then thought and refreeze it the due. You just hear

1266
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 1: this person on Instagram in the comment section. It's like,

1267
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: yes you can, Yes you can. And the reason I

1268
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: know you can is because I have eaten literally thousands

1269
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: of pounds of meat that was frozen and then thought

1270
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: and refrozen and I'm still here, not in jail. What

1271
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 1: is the reason? Someone leave that comment, like what is this?

1272
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: It's just one of the things that people. You got

1273
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: your you got your people that don't know. M okay,

1274
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: you got your people that don't know and they just

1275
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: think you can't because of sanitation whatever. Then you got

1276
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: you're like people who are like Joe wild game mm hm,

1277
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: even a lot more Joe. But you've got people who

1278
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: are Joe wild game and they're like, well, no, I

1279
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 1: actually can't because of the moisture loss and because the

1280
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: food temperature stuff. Yes you can, you can, because we

1281
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 1: do it all the time and we're all fine. The

1282
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: other thing that I want to throw in here is,

1283
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: and I hear this often, if you want, if that

1284
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: meat is near and dear to you and you want

1285
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 1: to take it home, it can be done. Don't let

1286
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: anybody weary you're at tell you that oh no. Yeah,

1287
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: Like sometimes it takes stand up all night and getting

1288
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 1: things really separated to get them cooled down to an

1289
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: appropriate temperature, but it can be done. I hear horror

1290
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 1: stories about outfitters really going out of their way to

1291
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,600
Speaker 1: discourage clients wanting to bring their game home because it

1292
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: just adds to the stuff they have to deal with. Yes, yeah, bad.

1293
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 1: I one time was flying out of I can't remember

1294
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 1: what airport in Florida it was back is Jeff Blue

1295
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: still an airline. They were telling me that it was

1296
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: like Palm Beach or something. They're saying that we have

1297
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: a policy that no one can fly with fish. I'm like,

1298
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 1: that cannot be true. Jeff Lewis telling you that one time.

1299
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: And I raised a big stinking and let me check it.

1300
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 1: But someone at the conner try to tell me that

1301
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 1: you can't fly fish, but you can't fly with fish,

1302
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: and they back down, but just flippingly, like just to

1303
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 1: just to get rid of the half and to deal

1304
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 1: with it. Can't flay off fish. Yeah yeah, And I,

1305
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: um yeah, I've had kind of similar experiences where it's

1306
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 1: like where you start beating them up a little bit

1307
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: just by asking politely. Have a bunch of different questions,

1308
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: and it comes down to, like, let me get the

1309
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: form out Alaska Airlines, that's a fish from hunting friendly airline. Man,

1310
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 1: if you don't have fish, you don't fly and catch

1311
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: Candlelaska Airlines they take your fishing game and go put

1312
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: in the freezer while uh, it goes from the baggage

1313
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: counter into a freezer and then it goes from the

1314
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: freezer a round of the plane when it's time. Do

1315
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 1: they take fishing game? Serious? Mate? Do you want to

1316
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: make the point though that I personally believe of the

1317
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: opinion that the meat does not have to be frozen.

1318
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: A good chill cold is good, But as long as

1319
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:01,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't radiating heat, I would put it into that

1320
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: hopper and stick it into that plane. It's gonna go

1321
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 1: into the belly of the plane and then go up

1322
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: to thirty feet where it as cold as hell. That's probab,

1323
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna be cooling. I mean, unless you're just happy

1324
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: to be flying from Florida to California via Texas and

1325
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 1: just staying in the hot zone the whole time. But

1326
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 1: for the most part, it's probably getting colder as you fly.

1327
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 1: Your meat is gonna be fine even if you it

1328
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: was like a very very long day of flying. It's

1329
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: gonna stay cool, it's not gonna warm up. You're gonna

1330
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: be fine. And then you can fly with I think

1331
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 1: three pounds of dry ice. Really yeah, a couple of

1332
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: chech questions and don't put dry ice and a yetdie

1333
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: hopper and seal it. Oh it'll be other too air tight. Yeah,

1334
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: they they we almost can'ton Greuth and I had almost

1335
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 1: had a couple of meat bombs. We had a couple

1336
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: of scary situations of dry ice and hoppers. If you

1337
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: if you put dry us in the hopp or leave

1338
01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:00,759
Speaker 1: the zipper cracked a little bit, yea, what is that whistling?

1339
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: And I started digging through the back of the handle

1340
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: fire and I'm like, oh my god. I never ever

1341
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 1: messed with try ice. Man. I had a trick. I

1342
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: got in trouble for talking about this one time. But

1343
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: we had a trick once upon time where this is

1344
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: a hotel trick. You know those ice machines at hotels

1345
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 1: where you take your a little bucket ice and go

1346
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 1: out in the hallway and get ice. It's humming away

1347
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 1: down the hall. Man. We've had I was on it.

1348
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: I was doing an NPR interview one time and someone

1349
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: was asking about traveling with fish, and I say, you know,

1350
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: it's a good trick because we used to stick fish

1351
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: and keep it chilled in the icemaker at the hotel.

1352
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: Just kind of dig a trough in the back and

1353
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 1: stick your frozen fish back and then and shove the

1354
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,759
Speaker 1: ice back on it. And I can't here, man. Someone

1355
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: the the NPR station got a lot of complaints from

1356
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: hotel you from hotel, from hotel people being pissed about

1357
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: it's smart. Couple questions. Someone says, Steve never uses a

1358
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: spot and scope? What's up with that? Spot scopes? All

1359
01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: the time I used spotting sculpts. Nine of my spot

1360
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: and scope use is given something a careful examination after

1361
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: I have found it. I don't find a lot of

1362
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: stuff with spotting scopes. I don't know any real serious

1363
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: hunters that we hang with that sit around for hours

1364
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 1: the way we do glassing through binoculars, closing one eye

1365
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 1: am peering through a single spotting scope. It just doesn't

1366
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 1: from what I've seen, it just doesn't work. Yeah, your

1367
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: eyes get tired that way. You're like squinting. Um. The

1368
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 1: panting is harder. You need to have both eyes open

1369
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 1: when you're doing initial glassing. And yeah, and now there

1370
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,799
Speaker 1: is a thing where you can mount two spotting scopes

1371
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: side by side and look through them at the same time. Man,

1372
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 1: oh baby, show me that. That sounds great. But I

1373
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 1: do think even um, if you're doing a lot of

1374
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: like fine looking trying to locate what the spottings go,

1375
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:04,520
Speaker 1: just because of that, I relief, uh kind of fresh perspective.

1376
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: It's great to bounce back and forth, um, because it

1377
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: almost like rejuvenates between bounce back and forth between your eyes.

1378
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: Oh no, just from binos to spot or even when

1379
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 1: you haven't located anything, yeah you know, yeah, like who's

1380
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 1: your hunt? I oftentimes just had to lay down and

1381
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: just close my eyes, and my eyes start to get

1382
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: such like just like a weird like I've been staring

1383
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 1: ating my act. There's too long. But we're just not

1384
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: at mule your hunt. I carry it like I had

1385
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 1: my just regular I emols myself with a pair of

1386
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 1: ten power binos, so I had a pair of vortex

1387
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: raisors of tens and then I had a five millimeter

1388
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 1: so that's like the objective lens so big ass spot

1389
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 1: and scope, and I had that thing out ten times. Well,

1390
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, we're seeing four to ten bucks every

1391
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: day every year we found I'd had the spot and

1392
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: scope out looking at it, so it's out all the

1393
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: time or now and then to be like some little

1394
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: pocket you couldn't really see into and you're kind of

1395
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: curious about, I might put a spot in scope on it.

1396
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: But every time we'd be like, there's a box, and

1397
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 1: I would get spots about one to see what was

1398
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 1: up with him, and two to scan around and see

1399
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: if he had anybody's hanging around bedding under some tree nearby.

1400
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: So I'd always give him. I'm doing it all the time, man,

1401
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: I'd like to keep it handy. I don't like to

1402
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: put it where I can't get at it, because then

1403
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, then you're too lazy and you can't get

1404
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: it out when you're glassing. Are there different techniques that

1405
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: you use with your binos checking out a hillside or yeah? Yeah,

1406
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean up, down, back forth, all that kind of

1407
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 1: stuff near far close. Yeah, mine is pretty um. I

1408
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 1: sit down and look at all the good stuff first,

1409
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: and then I start picking the place apart. Yeah, I

1410
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: go over down, back, try to break it up into

1411
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 1: a way. A minute. Let's say youre looking across a

1412
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 1: flat plane at a hill and there's like, you know,

1413
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 1: there's like a big ridge that divides the hill you're

1414
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: looking that. I might be like, Okay, I'm gonna do

1415
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: the left of that ridge side to side. I can't

1416
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 1: do the right ridge. I'm gonna do the flat plane.

1417
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in that order again and again and

1418
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,600
Speaker 1: again and again and again and again and again, and

1419
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 1: try to have some order to it, because if you

1420
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 1: just look at all the cool looking stuff, you miss

1421
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, yeah, it's curious about no the tech question.

1422
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 1: Why fixed blades and not mechanicals. I don't know a

1423
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: man broadheads, I don't know. I just like them because

1424
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 1: they're already in the position they're supposed to be in

1425
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 1: fixed blades. But no, it's not, it's nothing. It's just

1426
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, there it is, is all put together.

1427
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 1: It doesn't need to do anything. I don't think that's

1428
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 1: not enough. That's my reason. It's already the way. It's

1429
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: already the way it's supposed to be. And I don't

1430
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: gotta wonder, right, But I mean, but I know a

1431
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: lot of like very accomplished archers who know more about

1432
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 1: archie tackle than I ever will, who love mechanicals. But

1433
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 1: for me, it's just like one less thing. We we

1434
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: used them for a while and it was kind of

1435
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 1: even the infancy. No, I mean they've been around a

1436
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: long time. It was kind of like when they first

1437
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: started becoming popular and they had the rubber bands, you know,

1438
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,560
Speaker 1: and like they'd get too much sunlight on them, and

1439
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 1: then the rubber band and be brittle, or the rubber

1440
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: bands that we're supposed to be and you're like checking

1441
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: your pockets for just like I messled them and then

1442
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 1: I just something about I like one piece like one

1443
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: piece broadheads, because I just I just look at it

1444
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: and I understand it and I know what's up with it. Yeah,

1445
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 1: you get a little corrosion and stuff just from like

1446
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:44,719
Speaker 1: morning do after multiple mornings in the field running around

1447
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:49,600
Speaker 1: and and they I've had them like stuck together to

1448
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 1: the point where I was like, I don't care what

1449
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 1: you run this through. It's not gonna come open. It's

1450
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 1: just like old man ship. I look at it and

1451
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: I understand it. Nothing needed to be put together. I

1452
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: just know that. It's like that's what it is there.

1453
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 1: It is that makes sense. Yeah, I wouldn't use mechanicals

1454
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 1: much either. You know, I think that the technology has

1455
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: come a long way with those broadheads. If I shot

1456
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 1: my bow at more critters, i'd probably try him. Um.

1457
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, right now, I shoot fixed because they seem

1458
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 1: more sturdy, more durable. They filled the engineer. Remember how

1459
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: earlier today I was trying to get you to go

1460
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 1: to hunter safety. Yeah. Yeah. Let's say you went to

1461
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 1: hunter safety and then you got a bowl and you

1462
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 1: learn how to shoot your bow, and then you developed

1463
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 1: this this insatiable blood lust. Probably probably gonna happen. Uh.

1464
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: Would you be a fixed man or a mechanical man? Well,

1465
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 1: I mean just the same reasons that you're talking about.

1466
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 1: It seems more simple, probably will last longer, I'm guessing,

1467
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 1: like like in the morning, you know less of a

1468
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 1: chance of them falling up. Heart you're worth, is your

1469
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: fixed man? Yeah? From all the knowledge I know about

1470
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: the subject, I've weighed the pros and cons, and I've

1471
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 1: come to the conclusion that I am a fixed man.

1472
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: Well stated, you can hit number thirty one if you

1473
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 1: want to knock it out. Another tech question, Oh yeah,

1474
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:19,560
Speaker 1: great tech question. This one comes up a lot. You

1475
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: can't answer it enough. Go ahead, cal give the question

1476
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: and the answer. What is the electrical tape on the

1477
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 1: end of your barrel? If you just answer that straight out,

1478
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: it would be electrical tape. But we've learned about this

1479
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 1: in hunter safety. I think they like, crap in your gun.

1480
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 1: We discussed it. I can't remember. I think it's on

1481
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: the test putting a piece of tape over the have

1482
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: to ask Tracy, Yeah, there's in one of the videos.

1483
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 1: I think. Really, yeah, preventing stuff from getting down into

1484
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 1: your barrel your gun. That's great, that's it. Yep. They

1485
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 1: didn't tell me that. In hunter safety. Yeah, that there

1486
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: is intense they fail get ready. I remember them discussed,

1487
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 1: like talking a lot about keeping your muzzle clear, you know,

1488
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 1: I mean aware of the fact that you could trip

1489
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 1: stumble poke your muzzle into the mud and it was

1490
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 1: gonna jam eight inches of mud into your muzzle, which

1491
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 1: I've never seen actually happen in real life, and then

1492
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 1: you would pull the trigger in the back pressure would

1493
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: cause the gun to blow up. I packed a barrel

1494
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 1: full of snow this morning. Bad. Really, I I packed

1495
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: my rifle barrel full of mud, packing of bull. The

1496
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 1: bull is already long since expired in in pieces. I'm

1497
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: partially on my back but stumbling through the rifle slit

1498
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: off and uh, that is terrible. But it got cold

1499
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 1: enough to where that whole core of mud just came out,

1500
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 1: and I swear to God that thing was so clean

1501
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 1: actually helped. I don't understand how it worked, but um, yeah,

1502
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 1: it's just an I mean major barrel cleaner like it

1503
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: just yeah, But I did a you know, full maybe

1504
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 1: I had just built up how dirty it was going

1505
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 1: to be in my mind, and by the time I

1506
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:17,759
Speaker 1: got back and actually put a light down the barrel

1507
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 1: and looked at it, I was very amazed at how

1508
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 1: how clean it was. Um, you're feeling good about it? Yeah,

1509
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 1: this is one that I like because I've heard it

1510
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 1: discussed in a lot of circles with with folks that

1511
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:39,680
Speaker 1: have produced all sorts of shows and movies for Netflix,

1512
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 1: which is doesn't bother you that all those months of

1513
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 1: hard work can be watched in a day. Yes, yes, Maggie,

1514
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 1: yeahly season nine, are you getting those comments? The number

1515
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 1: one comment that's probably the number one question on you

1516
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 1: should have that an audio thing? When season nine filming,

1517
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 1: it right now. I think that's just the whole world

1518
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 1: of just I mean, not that I work on the show,

1519
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 1: but just production and post production. It's like a lot

1520
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 1: of stuff I do. Sometimes you have to think about

1521
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 1: You're like, man, the lifespan is less than twelve hours

1522
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 1: in the days and time, and that I put in

1523
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 1: a into it more or less than also all the

1524
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: other people working on it. It's just crazy to think about.

1525
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 1: But a big motion picture that you also watching nine

1526
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: twenty minutes, they can spend years on years millions of

1527
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 1: dollars for those two hours, millions and millions um. But

1528
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:46,600
Speaker 1: nobody complains about that. Good chat question. Do you have

1529
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 1: a pack weight limit? How much is too much? Man,

1530
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 1: it's gone down over the years. Uh. At a time

1531
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 1: we would care area around packs that were approaching a

1532
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:07,719
Speaker 1: hundred pounds um and while and it's like something really

1533
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 1: weird happens when you jump up, like even when you

1534
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: jump up to like seventy pounds, you put it on

1535
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 1: and you suddenly feel kind of fragile, Like you put

1536
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 1: it on, you could picture hurting yourself. You're like, I

1537
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:25,679
Speaker 1: could picture tripping and hurting myself. And I have done

1538
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 1: a couple big pack outs. I don't know if it

1539
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,560
Speaker 1: was probably not over a hundred pounds, but done a

1540
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 1: couple of packouts and now you know over a decade ago.

1541
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: Uh that just that that you didn't feed, your body

1542
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 1: didn't feel right for a week or two after, like

1543
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 1: you like just just I don't do it anymore. I

1544
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 1: just don't do it anymore. When we wait those what

1545
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 1: do we wait? We weigh those packs on that Washington

1546
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 1: Elk hunt, H well, I had, like my was like

1547
01:32:56,560 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 1: eighty four and years was like no low nine these

1548
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 1: maybe and they were pretty brutal. I think nine pound

1549
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 1: pounds over the top. I think for me on that one,

1550
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 1: I can't remember Dandy pulled off a pack to weighed

1551
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 1: one on nine or something once. Yeah, there's a lot

1552
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 1: that you could we could pull off. I mean, I'm

1553
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 1: sure I could carry a hundred and thirty pounder out

1554
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 1: of the woods. But I'm playing the long game these days,

1555
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 1: and I want to be hunting hel can romp in

1556
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 1: the mountains well into my sixties. That means I have

1557
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 1: at least twenty years maybe of good mountain hunting. And

1558
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 1: uh and much rather take this last bull I killed

1559
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 1: in Colorado. We did two trips. The guy that I

1560
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 1: was with was not gonna do one big load anyways.

1561
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 1: I probably could have doubled up quarters and packed it out,

1562
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 1: you know. So if I had two guys like me,

1563
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: we could have done it one trip. But we just

1564
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 1: you know, went lighter packs fifty to sixty pound, did

1565
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 1: two trips. Felt great. At the end of the day,

1566
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 1: walked you know, an extra six miles, but it was

1567
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 1: a nice day to be in the mountains, you know. Yeah,

1568
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 1: I think it's for context, Like I can put ten

1569
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 1: days worth of what I need to live and and

1570
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 1: honestly pretty darn comfortably in the mountains um on my

1571
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 1: back and the whole kit everything I need is under

1572
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 1: sixty pounds for ten days. I don't know if that

1573
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 1: does provide contacts for folks. But yeah, well then you're

1574
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 1: like you put it on, and you're very aware of

1575
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 1: having that pack on. You're like a where that it's there. Yeah,

1576
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 1: And I guess the good news there is like from

1577
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 1: the first snack on, it's getting lighter the whole time,

1578
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,560
Speaker 1: you know, like it will and until it's time to

1579
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 1: start packing animals out, it's it's not going to increase

1580
01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 1: in weight. Uh. Question trophy hunting question, how do you

1581
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 1: learn to gauge the size of a deer long distance

1582
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 1: just by looking at him all the time? And the

1583
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 1: other thing is like you gotta kind of ask you

1584
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: something like why do you care? Uh? We like I

1585
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 1: like to look because you like big giant buck. Yeah.

1586
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: Like the other day I was saying to someone, we're

1587
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 1: hunt with some guys, and whe of these guys have

1588
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 1: passed up a five point bowl, and I was saying,

1589
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 1: my new mantra is that elker for eating and mule

1590
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 1: deer are for looking for big ones. Um. Yeah, I

1591
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 1: guess you just learned a little I don't know, like

1592
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 1: a good like for for us. When we're like looking

1593
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 1: at mule deer and looking at COO's deer and stuff,

1594
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 1: the first thing you're looking for is um. It's kind

1595
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 1: of like the most immediate reference is you describe boxes

1596
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 1: like outside the ears, inside the ears, outside of the ears,

1597
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: inside of the ears. Like if you see a box

1598
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 1: and his horns are wider than his ears, you take notice.

1599
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 1: You're like, let me get a look, right, Yeah, there's

1600
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 1: a buck hey inside the ears. The truly big ones

1601
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what species of antler and animal this is

1602
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 1: our buddy Jay Scott always say this. It's like it's

1603
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 1: gonna look abnormally large on his head. It's gonna make

1604
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 1: his head look little because those are the truly it looks.

1605
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 1: It looks weird because it's so big. You can do

1606
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 1: all the you know, oh, it was touching his butt

1607
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 1: when he put his head back, or when he turned

1608
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: his head. It was his wise is you know, from

1609
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 1: his shoulders to this, that and the other. The really

1610
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 1: big ones, they just like, there's no question about it.

1611
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 1: If you have to try to talk yourself into it.

1612
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 1: It's not as big as you want it to be.

1613
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 1: Other things like if you really are like trying to

1614
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 1: trophy judge an animal. Well, now before we get into that,

1615
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 1: another quick hitter is usually the more mature animals were

1616
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 1: gonna gonna have a little bit of a darker antler,

1617
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 1: especially looking at mule deer, the young spinley ones tend

1618
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:54,600
Speaker 1: to be a little bit whiter in color, a little chalkier.

1619
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:58,080
Speaker 1: The darker ones are with the more mature ones. But

1620
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 1: after that it comes down to high length. You're looking

1621
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 1: for long times, but a big thick chocolate e outside

1622
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 1: the ears. We we were talking abut because we're talking

1623
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:13,559
Speaker 1: like like why why does everyone seem to in our

1624
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 1: group of friends and stuff, everyone sort of agrees on

1625
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 1: what's like absolutely like a shooter box, right, and I

1626
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 1: don't know, it just has certain yeah dark antler Yeah,

1627
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 1: a minimum amount past years. And I was looking all

1628
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,680
Speaker 1: the time. Uh, the last time I gotta go up

1629
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 1: and hunt Alberta for me oldier. My spotting scope actually

1630
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 1: got stolen out of the back of my track. So

1631
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 1: I was up there hunting without a spotting scope and

1632
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 1: it was like very very frustrating, but I so all.

1633
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 1: I had my UM tripod and my binoculars on the

1634
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 1: tripod and was glassing and um, I had to and

1635
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:01,600
Speaker 1: you're looking at deer from a long way way. I

1636
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 1: had to really rely on the body like that is

1637
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 1: a big body. It appears to have a big gut

1638
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 1: on it, and it's got antlers on its head. I'm

1639
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 1: gonna go after that buck, not the rest of these bucks,

1640
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 1: because that is just a significantly bulkier deer that that

1641
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:31,720
Speaker 1: looks older from this perspective way back belly dragger. And

1642
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 1: I will tell you absolutely no exaggeration. I was consistently

1643
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 1: hunting larger deer than the guys that we're hunting with

1644
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 1: spotting scipes. Yeah, because there it's like you want to

1645
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 1: go take off and chase a deer and and go

1646
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 1: hunt it. And and I would have been the exact

1647
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:52,600
Speaker 1: same way. But and they were like, boy, that's a

1648
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 1: really nice dear. Boy, that's a really nice dear. And

1649
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 1: they're like, it's got to be big, like a little

1650
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,679
Speaker 1: bit of talking to yourself off into it because you're

1651
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 1: raring to go and you want to go. I give

1652
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 1: it every deer the benefit of the doubt. Yeah, I

1653
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 1: start out assuming every deer is a bucket, Every buck

1654
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 1: is a big un until until it proves otherwise. That's

1655
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 1: my operating assumption. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

1656
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 1: So here's the question, has nothing to do with the

1657
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 1: season eight of met Eater. How long can you keep

1658
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 1: properly packaged frozen wild game before eating it? Depends on

1659
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 1: what it is. I just got my wife and I

1660
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 1: stayed up late last night, and uh, I made a big,

1661
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 1: big mess and got in trouble me because I just

1662
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 1: had a defrost my freezer, which we're going through a

1663
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 1: cold snap right now, and I was say, a great

1664
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 1: time for freezer first thing about your dad and saying,

1665
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:45,759
Speaker 1: you know what, don't curse the darkness light of candle.

1666
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: It's zero negative something out there right now. That's a

1667
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 1: great idea. Pull everything out of your freezer. Just chuck

1668
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 1: it on the back deck at our house. You do

1669
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:57,679
Speaker 1: have to cover it because the magpies will get after.

1670
01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how the hell they figure out that

1671
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 1: they're meet out there. It's like, I know, because if

1672
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:05,880
Speaker 1: it's just a piece of if it's a bone with

1673
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,560
Speaker 1: some scrap on it, I was like, it's color. But

1674
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 1: how do they know. I don't know. God, he got

1675
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 1: a good nose on him. Yeah, it must be. It

1676
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 1: must be the nose. So anyways, the day before I

1677
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 1: just turned the freezer off after I emptied it and

1678
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:23,800
Speaker 1: opened up the plug at the bottom, thinking there's like

1679
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 1: a little bit of you know, frost in there that

1680
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 1: needs to melt out. When I came home, it's like

1681
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:32,439
Speaker 1: not half but like you know, there was a good

1682
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 1: ten foot radius around the freezer. Really, dude, I need

1683
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:40,600
Speaker 1: to be frost my freezer. But anyways, we put it

1684
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 1: all back in there last night and there was a

1685
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 1: tender loin elk tender loin from seventeen. I get so

1686
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 1: attached to those things that I'm like, let's you guys

1687
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 1: aren't worth it. Let's say it for another year. I

1688
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 1: got no problem. I think it's gonna be a great

1689
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 1: piece of I would say it depends what it is.

1690
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 1: Meaning I like to eat. When we go to our

1691
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 1: fish shack and bring salmon home, I like to get

1692
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 1: them eating up. Yes, all that seafood does not do well.

1693
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't do well like any and all. See like

1694
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: if you got if you got bluegill flas. You know

1695
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 1: there's that fish, giant Travoli, and everybody likes to calm gets.

1696
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:22,080
Speaker 1: Let's start calm bluegills bags. If you got bluegill flase,

1697
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:24,720
Speaker 1: they're so lean, you know what I mean. If you

1698
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 1: freeze like bluegill flas and water, I mean you can

1699
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:30,919
Speaker 1: keep them for a long time. But generally, like seafood,

1700
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 1: I just like to get rid of it. If I

1701
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 1: was gonna say that, I think that the high that

1702
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 1: a high fat content has to do with something has

1703
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 1: to do with how little how I fatty fish can't

1704
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 1: freeze long sure, or fatty meat for that matter. You know,

1705
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 1: pork just doesn't last. The fat ends up going back bear.

1706
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 1: Meat that's not properly trimmed goes bad fast and to

1707
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 1: freeze like the fat goes ransom, and the freezer properly trimmed, like,

1708
01:41:56,360 --> 01:42:00,280
Speaker 1: let's just say we're talking about venison deep members of

1709
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 1: the deer family. Trim the tallow off, trim the fat off.

1710
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 1: It lasts for years if you you can vaccinal it,

1711
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 1: but then you gotta take care of the bags. And

1712
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:14,680
Speaker 1: I use a vaxin there for seafood, so I think

1713
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 1: it does a nice job of seafood. But I like

1714
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:17,880
Speaker 1: to wrap my red meat. I like to wrap it

1715
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 1: in plastic wrap, and I like to wrap in wax

1716
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:25,840
Speaker 1: freezer paper and good tight wrap. Then put the wax

1717
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 1: freezer paper on. It seems like a lot, but you

1718
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 1: can eat it years later. I quit label in the

1719
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 1: meat in my freezer. I quit label in the date

1720
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 1: because then people I don't like have to explain the

1721
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:41,680
Speaker 1: date to people. Right, and my wife looks in there

1722
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 1: and she sees something that says two thousand seventeen. Well,

1723
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 1: you're like, what the hell is that? I just don't

1724
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:48,120
Speaker 1: even put it on it, and then no one has

1725
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 1: the no. Then I don't have to explain why stuff

1726
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 1: on my counter says three years ago if if, if

1727
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 1: it came down to it, it's not like David Meltzer

1728
01:42:56,200 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: brought over the ship from dug it up. But I

1729
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:03,600
Speaker 1: I try to do uh what how do you call it?

1730
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 1: We talked about this, uh lasting first last in, first out,

1731
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 1: first in, first out. Yeah yeah, I used to working

1732
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 1: at a grocery store. First yeah. I try to do

1733
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:16,160
Speaker 1: first and first out. And in fact, now the hunting

1734
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 1: season is totally rolling. I have a plan. I need

1735
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 1: to go do some organization and I'm gonna take uh,

1736
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 1: anything I have from last year is going into my

1737
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 1: kitchen freezer, and and the rule being that's all gone

1738
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 1: before anybody, because I still have some stray stuff from

1739
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:37,680
Speaker 1: last year, that's all gone before anybody taps into this year,

1740
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 1: even though I've been eating this year already, because if

1741
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 1: I come home with stuff rather than just freezing it,

1742
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 1: I'll sometimes just start eating it because like why freezing

1743
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 1: and thought you know what I mean, it's a good rotation.

1744
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 1: It's so nice to do a little freezer clean because

1745
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 1: you forget you have all these little goodies, like I

1746
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 1: found a couple of bags of crabs that you brought

1747
01:43:57,400 --> 01:44:00,160
Speaker 1: for me, that hadn't gotten eaten yet. So those from

1748
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 1: this year, yeah, I hope, so they didn't have a

1749
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 1: date on him. The reason for that? Um? What else

1750
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 1: did I find in there? Some turkey liver pati that

1751
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 1: I froze? Let's say it for some little fancy cocktail

1752
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 1: dinner time type thing. Here's one. How do you know

1753
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 1: when you're done? Okay, I don't know more about shooting

1754
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 1: a wounding and animal. How do you know when you're

1755
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 1: done searching? At what point is the breaking point for

1756
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:36,920
Speaker 1: giving in? Oh? That's tough, man. Um, I think when

1757
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 1: you're exhausted, that's stupid. It's not stupid. You're exhausted. You're

1758
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 1: already tired. It's gonna be no exhausted from the looking

1759
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:49,800
Speaker 1: part you got. Because there's been times when I've we've

1760
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 1: gone back to camp. I've gone back to camp, gotten

1761
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:54,599
Speaker 1: a full, nice rest, and then searched all the next

1762
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 1: day and become exhausted from looking, not exhausted from the hunt. Um,

1763
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:06,440
Speaker 1: it's mentally oh man, yeah, no, yeah, mentally and physically exhausted.

1764
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 1: But when you just I don't know, when you just

1765
01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:12,759
Speaker 1: feel like there's no hope, you have to start what happens.

1766
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 1: I think after a while, with a lot of experience

1767
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:20,240
Speaker 1: of hitting animals with projectiles and making good and bad hits,

1768
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 1: is that you just get to read. You see the

1769
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 1: same things play over and over over again, Like when

1770
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:30,840
Speaker 1: you see a broadhead broadhead tipped arrow going to an

1771
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 1: elks shoulder four or five six, maybe even eight inches.

1772
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm like, Probably not gonna do too

1773
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 1: much looking. I've just seen too many of those. It's

1774
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 1: just like, dude, that thing gets hit worse when he

1775
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 1: fights with his buddy tomorrow, you know, from the Antler Times, right,

1776
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 1: So you after a while you learned to read those hits,

1777
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 1: you know. Um, that's if I had to answer the question,

1778
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 1: that's why I deferred you. If I had to answer it,

1779
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 1: I would say that the more you're exposed to the

1780
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:08,640
Speaker 1: more you start to like make sense of things and

1781
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 1: you and it changes your approach where if you're like

1782
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 1: I did think I know that thing is dead or

1783
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 1: I know that thing's not gonna die, right, Yeah, but man,

1784
01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 1: it's the assumption that that's such a killer two Like

1785
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 1: I I mean, I've just seen the most bizarre stuff

1786
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 1: and and that bowl I lost in New Mexico, Like

1787
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 1: it was such a non lethal hit and it would

1788
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 1: like that placement that every the penetration was just a

1789
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:42,759
Speaker 1: non lethal hit. The way the bull moved afterwards, followed

1790
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 1: the tracks, no blood, no nothing, non lethal, non lethal,

1791
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 1: non lethal. Um. The one thing though, is he was

1792
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 1: still packing that arrow. And I swear to God, man,

1793
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 1: like what we found when we ultimately found the bull,

1794
01:46:56,439 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 1: which was just pure dumbass luck. Um was like, you know,

1795
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:06,599
Speaker 1: backtrack from where the carcasses, and I swear to God

1796
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 1: that thing laid down and jam that arrow into him,

1797
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 1: you know. But I was like doing my due diligence

1798
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 1: here falling in falling tracks, and I know we aren't

1799
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 1: gonna come ount to anything, and we just really have

1800
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah. Man, if people make the call

1801
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 1: without even walking over, that's bad. Yeah, you should never

1802
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 1: do that. And there's some things you learned. Like I

1803
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 1: was on a tracking job one time. Something we didn't

1804
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 1: find where you find like a bone fragment and not

1805
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 1: a lot of blood. Yeah, and you're like lower you know,

1806
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:41,639
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, lower leg, it's gonna be tough. Yeah,

1807
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 1: I've been there, you know. Then then like I said,

1808
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 1: this little telltale signs man, where you're like, people be like,

1809
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 1: holy shit, he must be real dead. It's a bone

1810
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 1: fragment land here, Like how would that happen? You're like, well,

1811
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,519
Speaker 1: I happened to hit him in the Yeah, but he's gone.

1812
01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 1: We gotta look a long time since I told this story,

1813
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 1: but I was way back when was guiding antelope hunters.

1814
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:08,679
Speaker 1: Guy chopped his buck pancake. I was like, oh, something

1815
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: didn't look right, and and he was very very excited, Um,

1816
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:16,799
Speaker 1: real nice antelod buck. And I'm like, reload, reload, reload,

1817
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 1: and he was kind of in the throes of like triumph.

1818
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 1: And finally he snaps back into it, but just in

1819
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 1: time to see that antelope get up and Paul ass

1820
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 1: out of there and go over and there is like

1821
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:36,640
Speaker 1: the very top. I gotta learn the name of what

1822
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 1: this is. But you know, like the long spine, uh,

1823
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 1: chunks of bone that come up from the spine like

1824
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:48,640
Speaker 1: on the Rassic process. Is that on the neck? Yeah? Um,

1825
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 1: how'd you like that, Maggie. That was very impressive. That

1826
01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 1: the version very impressive that I knew that someone wrote

1827
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 1: someone wrote in about that might even been our chiropractor buddy.

1828
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 1: The thoracic processes or whatever, know that it was. I

1829
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 1: wish Phil the editor was more the engineer, like, did

1830
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 1: a lot of fact checking. Wait, outside of his job description,

1831
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 1: we can make it my job description. That's fine. I'm

1832
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 1: gonna rewrite that description. But we made a significant medical

1833
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 1: fact checking. There is hair, blood, and that top of

1834
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 1: that bone land on the prairie. Oh my gosh. And yeah,

1835
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 1: I never seen that. Had a client two weeks later

1836
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 1: killed that buck. Really yeah, and he knew it was

1837
01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:39,640
Speaker 1: the same one just because of oh, because of the

1838
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 1: giant scar and take blood puss um. Yeah. Okay, here

1839
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 1: you want to hear this is from Brian. You hunt

1840
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:52,600
Speaker 1: it with Brian at the the Auction to trc P

1841
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:56,600
Speaker 1: hunt last year in Colorado. I asked him about it

1842
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,919
Speaker 1: after someone else had written in about it, and he replied,

1843
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 1: for most mammals, the projections off the vertebrae are generally

1844
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:11,559
Speaker 1: referred to as spinus processes and transverse processes. That sounds

1845
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 1: like mostly right, that's an educated guess. I have not

1846
01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 1: heard of thorastic processes. That doesn't mean that one doesn't exist. Oh,

1847
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 1: the thorastic is just the first one. Mm hmm. So

1848
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:27,720
Speaker 1: it's the that was mostly wrong. Well, the thorastic is

1849
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:32,200
Speaker 1: seven vertebrae, isn't it because there goes cervical thorastic lumbars,

1850
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:37,719
Speaker 1: spinny is process whatever? That was most right. A couple

1851
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 1: of folks that actually a lot of folks asked this

1852
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 1: different forms of the same question. What are you guys

1853
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:46,639
Speaker 1: packed for food for the longer hunts? Like the Alaska

1854
01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:49,519
Speaker 1: doll sheep hunt. Um that was that episode is a

1855
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 1: lot of people's favorite episode. It's contemplative, contemplative, I go

1856
01:50:54,040 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 1: with contemplative. And the scenery is uh, beautiful scenery. It's

1857
01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 1: kind of like quiet and poetic and nice music. And

1858
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 1: now too, I'd like to add that we have sort

1859
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 1: of we have a very good spectrum um within the

1860
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:14,680
Speaker 1: media library of what doll sheep hunts can be like,

1861
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 1: because when you went on that, when you had the

1862
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 1: toke tag, we ran up there, we found a sh

1863
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 1: ramp before the opening day and then got it that morning. Yeah,

1864
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean we found a mid No, it wasn't because

1865
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 1: remember it was super foggy. We probably actually didn't even

1866
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:31,599
Speaker 1: see him until probably close to noon. But anyways, yeah,

1867
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 1: that next day as as they gotten that morning. But

1868
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 1: he was dead and uh, we kind of complained earlier

1869
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 1: he mentioned We're like, man, sure missed out on running

1870
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:45,679
Speaker 1: a bunch of ridges that would have been fun. Well,

1871
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 1: we got to run our Actually we didn't run too

1872
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:51,360
Speaker 1: many ridges because it's too cloudy floor. We ran a

1873
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 1: lot of valley floors on this last trip. But yeah,

1874
01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:58,639
Speaker 1: we have We have both types of doll sheep punts,

1875
01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 1: and then there's everything in between. I'm gonna give our

1876
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 1: you know where. This is the first time anyone's mentioned it,

1877
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:08,160
Speaker 1: and I hesitate to even mentioned it. We are working

1878
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 1: on two books. Um. One of these books will contain

1879
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 1: you a lot of information like what I'm gonna tell

1880
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 1: you right now. Uh, our basic bad Country meal plan

1881
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 1: goals like this, um instant coffee. Oh check this out.

1882
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 1: We used Starbucks villa mm hmm um. We use Starbucks

1883
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 1: villa and bags of powdered creamer so it looks like

1884
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:47,400
Speaker 1: you got a bag of coke in a in a

1885
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:50,120
Speaker 1: cocaine movie. You guys want to rub it on your

1886
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 1: lips and that's good ship. But a lot of people

1887
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 1: like to complain about the villa. We've tried a lot

1888
01:52:56,640 --> 01:53:01,840
Speaker 1: of other products to find a dude in Missoula. He

1889
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,880
Speaker 1: found one. Hear me out. Hear me out this dude

1890
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 1: in Missoula. Sam, I got his address on my desk. Uh,

1891
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm done with the v is because micro trash, man,

1892
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 1: it does leave a lot of micro trash. You gotta

1893
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:17,200
Speaker 1: please your micro trash. But here's the thing. I thought,

1894
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:20,679
Speaker 1: you know this guy? I do. There's a guy Sam, Yeah,

1895
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 1: is that right? B h A supporter, darn good gay

1896
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 1: he sent me. I think it's like this the surfing

1897
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 1: dude layered Hamilton's. Is that a correct? Okay? I like

1898
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 1: Mike Keely myself. Keely doesn't make the product I'm talking about.

1899
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 1: He's got like all these coffee anyway. He sent me

1900
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:44,320
Speaker 1: this coffee and I haven't tried to x. I'm saving

1901
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 1: it for a backcounch trip. It's coffee and creamer mixed

1902
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 1: super food original and sure, I don't know there's like

1903
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 1: a sweet one original one. It's like instant coffee and

1904
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 1: it's the creamer is supposed to be made of. It

1905
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:01,800
Speaker 1: is funny because he wrote letters saying I don't know

1906
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,600
Speaker 1: that you're in me, Like he's saying I don't know

1907
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 1: you meaning me. Um, if you're into super food. But

1908
01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:17,120
Speaker 1: maybe Janice is like he has personality more pact is

1909
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 1: one likely to be in the superfood. But I amn't

1910
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 1: a super food cause I think squirrel is super food.

1911
01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:23,200
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that. Yeah, there's a lot

1912
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:24,680
Speaker 1: I think that I have because you just get the

1913
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 1: name ship, you think it's super food, right, I think

1914
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:30,760
Speaker 1: squirrel is a superfood. Um, I'm into superfood like it.

1915
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 1: But I'm looking forward to trying that. But I wanted

1916
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 1: to give our here's our basic here's our basic bad

1917
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:40,959
Speaker 1: country meal plan. Hold on the corner, put the coffee.

1918
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm not doing the coffee. So I switched over it

1919
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:49,080
Speaker 1: to going back to old old school, just just getting

1920
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 1: the unfortunately like little glass jar of whatever instant. Yeah,

1921
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 1: we just we just drank that for eight days, you know,

1922
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:00,640
Speaker 1: because I like, no, I didn't I in my trash

1923
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,120
Speaker 1: via the whole time. Other people that we were with

1924
01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 1: had to drink it. Tasters choice, no cafe tasters choice. Yeah,

1925
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:12,000
Speaker 1: the one that, uh, I think it has the Mexican

1926
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 1: flag on there. Well, I was just thinking to myself,

1927
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 1: you know what, it would have been a great product

1928
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:22,120
Speaker 1: for the back country, but I don't. I'm trying to

1929
01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 1: buy it right now on Google and I don't know

1930
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 1: if it's available. But General Foods International Coffee remember those

1931
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 1: They were like a rectangular box with the red lid,

1932
01:55:34,160 --> 01:55:37,880
Speaker 1: kind of sea and it had everything that you needed

1933
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 1: in their creamer, sugar, caffeine. But I don't I'm not

1934
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 1: seeing it right now on the internet. Might have gone

1935
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:45,440
Speaker 1: on a business, it might not be around. I'm looking

1936
01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 1: forward to that stuff that dude Sam sent me. I

1937
01:55:47,240 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 1: need to write him a thank you, know. Um So

1938
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 1: let me give my our meal plan. All right, you

1939
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 1: guys can complexify this all you want. What are you

1940
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 1: gonna start with breakfast? Let's started with coffee. I'm just

1941
01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:01,640
Speaker 1: not going as quick as I wanted to a Starbucks

1942
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 1: via then, whether you do or do not use cream,

1943
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 1: We'll usually take a little container. Some guys put in

1944
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 1: some of our w P. A is put it into

1945
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 1: ziplock bag, which drives me crazy. It's better to have

1946
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:15,120
Speaker 1: like a little container. You get a ari I in

1947
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 1: a little container section full of cream. Yea oatmeal two

1948
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:26,040
Speaker 1: envelopes per person, instant oatmeal packages. You eat the oatmeal

1949
01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 1: out of the bag, just like what what what? I'm

1950
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:36,120
Speaker 1: gonna have to interject because I said, you can complexify

1951
01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 1: all you want to trying to help people out. Go

1952
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 1: ahead what I know, but we've like it's it's not.

1953
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't think you're being honest by saying that that

1954
01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 1: is like our go to anymore, because you might eat

1955
01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 1: two of those packets per trip, Like we just like

1956
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 1: those things. He was asking about our like a dull

1957
01:56:56,480 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 1: sheep hunt. What might one plan on bringing? Okay, but

1958
01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:04,160
Speaker 1: that was one thing. You know what? Sorry, your answer,

1959
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 1: your question cannot be answered. No, it can be answered.

1960
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, are you gonna add more breakfast items?

1961
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 1: Because that's like, it's not because I like the I

1962
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 1: like those vinegare have there's choice breakfast. Ye, those are good.

1963
01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:28,560
Speaker 1: That's not oatmeal. No, but it's like a quick little thing.

1964
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:31,640
Speaker 1: I tell you what I don't like. It's as much

1965
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 1: as I love house, I don't like houses. I don't

1966
01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 1: like houses. Breakfast skill it. We ate quite a few

1967
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 1: of those on that trip though. Um, okay, so bagels

1968
01:57:42,680 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 1: and cream cheese, I like that. But I'm trying to

1969
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:49,680
Speaker 1: talk about like a real anybody can figure out how

1970
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 1: to feed themselves. I'm trying to talk about, like if

1971
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 1: you really like like a Backpacking Applausible backpacking menu. Mm hmm,

1972
01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 1: let me do this. I'm gonna talk about time. Be honest.

1973
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:10,160
Speaker 1: Wasn't there instant coffee, instant oatmeal? Then for lunch, you

1974
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 1: have flatbread with sliced meat and cheese, and you have

1975
01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:20,720
Speaker 1: a container of mayo or mustard or both. M hm uh.

1976
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 1: My brother likes to have an onion that he adds

1977
01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 1: into it. And you make a little thing where you

1978
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:30,480
Speaker 1: get like two flatbreads and a bunch of meat and cheese.

1979
01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 1: We used to use carl budding lunch meat because it

1980
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:38,760
Speaker 1: can't rot. Like it can't rot. I don't know how.

1981
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:41,120
Speaker 1: You'd have it for months in the back of your

1982
01:58:41,160 --> 01:58:44,879
Speaker 1: truck and it's just fresh. It's just as fresh somehow,

1983
01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 1: as fresh as the day you bought it. So we

1984
01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 1: used to like that stuff. Or you can bring donk

1985
01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:53,760
Speaker 1: like summer sausage whatever, like a meat and a cheese

1986
01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:55,480
Speaker 1: that you put on a flatbread and you put mayo

1987
01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 1: or mustard. That's your lunch. You're good luck with all

1988
01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 1: kinds of cured meats lately, because they have some of

1989
01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 1: the same properties as the Carlo. Is it budding your

1990
01:59:05,480 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 1: budding Carl? We always call it carl. We didn't even

1991
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 1: use the second word, like, hey, you go, I'll get

1992
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 1: the instant call, you go the grocer start, I'll get

1993
01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 1: the instant coffee, you get a bunch of carl, I'll

1994
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 1: eat you check out and everybody know who that meant?

1995
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:26,200
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, uh dinner house. And then all throughout the

1996
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:30,560
Speaker 1: day you're eating tons of bars, and you're getting really

1997
01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:33,280
Speaker 1: jealous of the guy at night who has some pringles

1998
01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:39,280
Speaker 1: or corn chips. And then it's great to have candy

1999
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:42,000
Speaker 1: bars and bars and you eat those all throughout the

2000
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:46,960
Speaker 1: day and then uh some dicaffey to tease usually big

2001
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 1: hit that night. The follow up question is what kind

2002
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 1: of bars do you guys like? The answer is all

2003
01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:54,840
Speaker 1: and none, all of them and none of them. Just

2004
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 1: get yourself a variety, because no matter what your favorite is,

2005
01:59:58,240 --> 02:00:01,680
Speaker 1: if it's freaking chocolate cocon today, in two days, chocolate

2006
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:05,200
Speaker 1: coconut will not be your favorite anymore. Yeah. Uh some

2007
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:09,480
Speaker 1: favorites pro Bar nothing with fruit. I don't like any

2008
02:00:09,560 --> 02:00:13,840
Speaker 1: fruity pro bar. I'm a fruit lover. Uh we like

2009
02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:18,560
Speaker 1: pro Bar. We like pack of runs yea from from

2010
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:23,360
Speaker 1: the Heather's Choice. I haven't heard of Those are good

2011
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:25,840
Speaker 1: we just got a little box of those. Uh my

2012
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:30,520
Speaker 1: nostalgia one is the like the sweet and salties. Yeah,

2013
02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:35,800
Speaker 1: doing nothing for you can bar. It's like a hybry

2014
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:37,920
Speaker 1: between a candy bar and all the bar makes you

2015
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:41,440
Speaker 1: feel better. Though. We eat those ones that are all

2016
02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:43,680
Speaker 1: like it's just like hell food. It's like it'll say

2017
02:00:43,720 --> 02:00:49,240
Speaker 1: in the package, like four dates, three eggs. We eat

2018
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:53,920
Speaker 1: a lot of kind. I'm a big kind bar guy. Snickers.

2019
02:00:55,160 --> 02:00:58,760
Speaker 1: People always buying Snickers for our Snickers with almonds. I

2020
02:00:59,040 --> 02:01:00,560
Speaker 1: ate a bunch on my last strip. That was a

2021
02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:03,400
Speaker 1: lot of Snickers. The only time I think I ever

2022
02:01:03,480 --> 02:01:05,840
Speaker 1: eat a Snickers is when I'm around Joanna's. He's like,

2023
02:01:06,920 --> 02:01:10,320
Speaker 1: we always it's always in our loop. There's always Snickers

2024
02:01:10,360 --> 02:01:12,960
Speaker 1: in our loop. Starbursts when we were turkey hunting. Yeah,

2025
02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:16,960
Speaker 1: that's what anything like that gets eating up. If you

2026
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:21,520
Speaker 1: were smart, if you were smart, you'd shop. No, we

2027
02:01:21,600 --> 02:01:23,960
Speaker 1: talked about this. You might not be smart to do that. Um,

2028
02:01:24,480 --> 02:01:27,200
Speaker 1: I say, if you're smart, you'd come out of the mountains,

2029
02:01:27,400 --> 02:01:29,520
Speaker 1: not eat anything, and then grow to a grocery store

2030
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:33,400
Speaker 1: and buy all your stuff for your next trip. Yeah,

2031
02:01:33,600 --> 02:01:36,680
Speaker 1: but then your next trip would be like springles, corn chips,

2032
02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:40,600
Speaker 1: hot dogs, pizza, rotisserie chicken would be like all the

2033
02:01:40,640 --> 02:01:43,200
Speaker 1: stuff where you're like just like totally calorie starved. You'd

2034
02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:44,800
Speaker 1: like go into a store and be like, I was like, oh,

2035
02:01:44,920 --> 02:01:51,320
Speaker 1: this uh miso soup, instant miso soup for cold weather hunts, ma'am.

2036
02:01:51,760 --> 02:01:56,360
Speaker 1: It's really salty. It's just a nice treat and it

2037
02:01:56,520 --> 02:02:01,200
Speaker 1: recharges all that loss sodium like mid mid day when

2038
02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 1: I fire up the jet boil when it's weather like this. Man,

2039
02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:08,320
Speaker 1: I've done the same thing with chicken and beef. Stock

2040
02:02:08,440 --> 02:02:11,440
Speaker 1: cubes has a little bully on cues. That's good. I

2041
02:02:11,520 --> 02:02:19,640
Speaker 1: like pickle juicey hot, but I brought some turkey any

2042
02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:24,480
Speaker 1: in my water bowl? Fool? Is it cut with a

2043
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:29,840
Speaker 1: bunch of water? Is it all pickle juice? Just pickled juice?

2044
02:02:30,120 --> 02:02:31,560
Speaker 1: You have to you can buy it, But I had

2045
02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:33,640
Speaker 1: pickles at home, so I just poured the juice and

2046
02:02:33,720 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 1: a I had like a small water bottle and I

2047
02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:37,920
Speaker 1: just brought that with me because I like gatorade and

2048
02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:42,560
Speaker 1: I had gatorade powder. In that last question, we all

2049
02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:45,760
Speaker 1: know what the answer is for Maggie. Everybody gets to

2050
02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:47,880
Speaker 1: do it, and it's gonna be a rap even Phil,

2051
02:02:48,360 --> 02:02:50,320
Speaker 1: We're even gonna let you do it. Hey, thanks man.

2052
02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:56,400
Speaker 1: What animal gets your blood pumping the most and why

2053
02:02:56,600 --> 02:03:01,480
Speaker 1: we know it? For mag it's obviously turkeys. One specifically,

2054
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:05,200
Speaker 1: Maggie gets around turkey, she loses her ability to shoot.

2055
02:03:07,800 --> 02:03:09,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things going on in my head.

2056
02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:14,800
Speaker 1: We're like, never shoo him in full strut unless side

2057
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:22,760
Speaker 1: he's in full strut. Did say, yeah, like, forget that, man,

2058
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:26,320
Speaker 1: he has a full strut. Go listen to me all

2059
02:03:26,440 --> 02:03:29,600
Speaker 1: the time except for this. But then you gotta know

2060
02:03:29,760 --> 02:03:32,840
Speaker 1: when not to listen to me. I wish I had

2061
02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:35,360
Speaker 1: like a little Steve like still like Pill would have

2062
02:03:35,360 --> 02:03:36,760
Speaker 1: been there with the sound board and it could have

2063
02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:39,480
Speaker 1: been you go and shoot my head. I would have

2064
02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:45,160
Speaker 1: been flipping out. So Mag, you'll let you answer. I

2065
02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:47,360
Speaker 1: don't mean answer for you. I'll go first. What animals

2066
02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:57,000
Speaker 1: my blood pumping the most? And why? Um? Uh? Wild turkeys,

2067
02:03:58,400 --> 02:04:03,360
Speaker 1: mule deer and uh. It's just so much fun to

2068
02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:05,880
Speaker 1: hunt squirrels. It's like fun to go out your friends

2069
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:09,000
Speaker 1: and hunt squirrels, wild turkeys and mule deer and squirrels

2070
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:10,840
Speaker 1: just because it's something like it's not the squirrels so

2071
02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:13,560
Speaker 1: much as it's like the it just is always so enjoyable.

2072
02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:17,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all the pressures of a big game hunt,

2073
02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:19,840
Speaker 1: aren't there. You just having just laughing and having fun,

2074
02:04:21,040 --> 02:04:23,080
Speaker 1: just fun. Walk around the woods your bodies looking for

2075
02:04:23,160 --> 02:04:26,000
Speaker 1: squirrels gets my blood bumping. But like big mule to

2076
02:04:26,040 --> 02:04:31,040
Speaker 1: your box get my blood up pumping. Yeah man, yeah,

2077
02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:34,720
Speaker 1: I mean I the quest for a big meal to

2078
02:04:34,760 --> 02:04:37,320
Speaker 1: your buck is still one I am on. And I

2079
02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:39,839
Speaker 1: mean this bad spot where I feel like I've blown

2080
02:04:41,400 --> 02:04:46,040
Speaker 1: like three chances of a lifetime at just a monster buck,

2081
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:50,160
Speaker 1: I've only I've almost gotten too many of them. Yeah. Man,

2082
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:53,760
Speaker 1: but you're Steve Ronnella. I mean think all the resources

2083
02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:59,680
Speaker 1: you have it your those big fat fingertips here, I'm

2084
02:04:59,720 --> 02:05:06,520
Speaker 1: just average Joe. Uh yeah, that's I've lost my cool

2085
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Speaker 1: on those damn things like embarrassingly twice um and so

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Speaker 1: yeah man that that's still still at the top of

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Speaker 1: the list. I feel like for a long time I've

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Speaker 1: come partmentalized. Elk into you go in the freezer like

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just shuffling you into the freezer. No

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Speaker 1: time to get too excited, Like, let's just get on

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Speaker 1: with the process. Mule, do you her for looking for

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Speaker 1: big ones. Yeah, says that. Yeah, I like I like Phil. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a different answer. It's whichever whichever of

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Speaker 1: the deer that jump out in front of my car

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Speaker 1: when I'm taking the beater whirl roads into town during

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Speaker 1: the winter. Those are the ones that get my blood bump.

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Speaker 1: I hear you for separate reasons than you guys, But

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Speaker 1: I like Phil Man. He's got a smart answer. Yea, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he's getting wiser because the can we jump

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Speaker 1: over and talk about Phil's mustache real quick? I mean,

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Speaker 1: the growth is the luxuriant. I like it luxuriant, but

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Speaker 1: you do need to die. You like fulfill the curtains,

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Speaker 1: don't manage the drapes. Yes, about his face of my face,

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Speaker 1: the drapes of my face. Thank you for that clarification. Um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've talked about just for men. Touch of gray is

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Speaker 1: what lacata just to look distinguished. But yeah, it's for

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Speaker 1: my Halloween costume tomorrow. I hope you guys will be

2108
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Speaker 1: here in the office. I can't wait. I can't wait much.

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Speaker 1: He spends with the headphones on. I want like a

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Speaker 1: real news cast or type of haircut to go with that. Mustache.

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Speaker 1: It would be great, like it's like a side part, Yes,

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Speaker 1: kind of. No one's ever used that word on this

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Speaker 1: podcast the first time, making history, first time. You're welcome

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Speaker 1: many times, yes, I'm sure many times. Quaff never crooner,

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Speaker 1: cro like a like a like a pompa door. You

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02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:28,400
Speaker 1: know you've got a little bit of a lift, a

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Speaker 1: curl and a lift. Just say more of that at tim,

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Speaker 1: more of that already ruined. It can't. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Bill outside. Let's go to Bill outside, Bill guys good

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Speaker 1: Man in the morning announcements. In my high school experience,

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Speaker 1: it's still turkeys, same as the last three times I

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Speaker 1: answered that question. That's change. No, you want me to

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Speaker 1: expect No more is there to say the same as

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Speaker 1: Meggy man gets your blood pumping, But you sure weren't

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Speaker 1: helping her get that turkey? Yeah he did. I was

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Speaker 1: flustered too. A lot going on there, Maggie. What animal

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Speaker 1: gets your blood most pumping? Well, I have to say turkey.

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Speaker 1: You know about getting the turkey's up close, don't you. No, No,

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Speaker 1: my blood runs cold because that same episode. Uh. The

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Speaker 1: only other thing is I had a cockroach crawl at

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Speaker 1: me one time while I sleeping right here. That yeah,

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Speaker 1: at the base of your all that. But we're living

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Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico and was like right here, and I screamed,

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Speaker 1: just yeah, I think that's what they mean. Oh wait,

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02:08:53,720 --> 02:08:59,280
Speaker 1: got my blood pumping. But most turks. Sure, it's the

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Speaker 1: only thing I've gone after. So we'll see question change

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Speaker 1: that in the next couple of weeks months. Dude, maybe

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Speaker 1: you gotta do a deer hunt man. All right, I

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Speaker 1: got my tag. I went and bought that. Joe told

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Speaker 1: me to do that. Good. Yes, I'm gonna go buy

2141
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Speaker 1: my duck stamp right now. Well, since we're done eating

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Speaker 1: cookies for your birthday's birthday, I'm gonna go get my

2143
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Speaker 1: duck stamp. Duck stamp, Old Old Mags, Old Marg. You

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Speaker 1: haven't even you haven't even hit thirty yet. I got

2145
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Speaker 1: one more year of that. Some people find their peak

2146
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Speaker 1: at different ages, do you it's old Mag's old. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to hitting my peak yet to come. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna stay optimistic. Okay, guys, thanks a lot. I hope

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Speaker 1: these questions are helpful to people. And the biggest thing

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Speaker 1: I got to say is this season eight of Meat Eater,

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Speaker 1: available now on net looks go there and stream the

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Speaker 1: whole damn thing, uh and then and then leave it on,

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Speaker 1: so it just appears like you can't stop watching. Thank you,