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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today we were joined

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Speaker 2: by Jason and Molly, the stars of this episode and

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Speaker 2: stars within it, and beloved people, the goats within Bacheloration

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Speaker 2: some would call them. They're gonna be here to day

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Speaker 2: to break down this episode of gen season of The Bachelorette,

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Speaker 2: Jason Erlik calls you and asks you to host this date.

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Speaker 2: Did you have any say in the concept of the date?

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Speaker 3: No? I mean, you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 4: They called up and they're like, hey, we're thinking about

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Speaker 4: doing a radio show date. I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: that's similar to what we did on the show, you know,

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Speaker 4: fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 3: They're like, oh, really, like they.

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Speaker 5: Forget they realized exact same date on.

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Speaker 4: I was like, are you guys going to call the

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Speaker 4: guy who hosted it, who Molly's former co host named Bender?

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Speaker 3: Are you gonna call him? And they're like, damn no.

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Speaker 4: We like they had no idea, so luckily, like we're

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Speaker 4: able to kind of run through and make reintroductions to people.

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Speaker 4: So not that we help plan it, but I think

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Speaker 4: we helped get Bender.

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Speaker 3: On the show a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because they were going to use the other guy

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Speaker 4: who's on there. His name is Jubil, who's a big

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Speaker 4: kind of national guy. They were going to him, and

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Speaker 4: Bender loves this stuff. You get to kick out of it.

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Speaker 4: So I think we were able to piece some things

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Speaker 4: together to make it more fun for everybody.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but otherwise no, we have no say.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I do want to kind of briefly

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Speaker 2: run through the whole episode with the two of you,

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Speaker 2: because you have seen the whole episode at this point,

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Speaker 2: but to kind of finish the first couple thoughts on

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Speaker 2: the date did they give you? Because I've hosted a

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Speaker 2: couple of dates for them. They usually give you a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a run around on who the guys

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Speaker 2: are and what you should expect, but it's not extensive.

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Speaker 2: The details have never like I've never been able to

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Speaker 2: make sense of the characters until you watch it maybe

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Speaker 2: the season back and like, okay, now that makes sense

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Speaker 2: of what they were telling me. How much prep did

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Speaker 2: they give you going into that day on who was

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Speaker 2: coming and what they were like?

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Speaker 5: They gave us a rundown of all of the guys coming.

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Speaker 5: They I mean, the biggest thing they honed in on

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Speaker 5: is that she was obsessed.

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Speaker 4: With say, so, my recollection is we didn't get a

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Speaker 4: rundown until we walked into the studio, like right before,

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Speaker 4: and they have like just pictures of each guy and

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Speaker 4: this is like maybe an hour before we start filming,

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Speaker 4: and we're like, Okay, there's that guy. He's gonna be

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Speaker 4: sitting over there, that guy's gonna be here, what's sitting

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Speaker 4: over there? And like, but when they walk in, I

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Speaker 4: think we know some of their faces. And then we

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Speaker 4: talked to Jen a little bit before they before we

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Speaker 4: start rolling, and that's where we kind of figured out

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Speaker 4: like who Sam was and who the other guys were.

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Speaker 5: But it's surprising to me, and I don't know why surprising.

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Speaker 5: I know how the show works, but they they really

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Speaker 5: were like she is obsessed with him, she loves him,

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Speaker 5: she can't get him out of her head. But then

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Speaker 5: watching the season up to this point, they don't make

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Speaker 5: it seem like that. So editing is a tricky, funny thing.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: Well, they also told me, and I don't know if

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Speaker 5: you're remem of us, and I'm not going to say

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Speaker 5: his name because I don't know what they told me.

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Speaker 5: Someone else in the group was more of like the

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Speaker 5: villain that people were getting in fights with, and that's

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Speaker 5: not at all how it's being presented on the show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm not sure your process of like how

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Speaker 4: you want to go through the show, but I will say,

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Speaker 4: based on her conversation with us producer's conversation with us,

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Speaker 4: I can't believe it went the way it did. Like

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Speaker 4: I thought she was all in on this guy and

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Speaker 4: he was hometown days for for sure, and like, I

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Speaker 4: like watching it last night. We just watched it last night.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I mean I knew that at the end,

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Speaker 4: like he wasn't gonna be the right fit. But I'm like,

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Speaker 4: she loved this guy. And within twelve hours she was gone,

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Speaker 4: or maybe twenty four hours he had gone.

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Speaker 3: I was like, what the heck happened?

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Speaker 2: You're getting produced?

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Speaker 6: How does it?

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Speaker 2: How does it feel to get produced? To get it?

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Speaker 2: You're gonna produce real hard.

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Speaker 4: But she also liked him, Like she walked in and

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Speaker 4: we were like, okay, come on, just tell us who

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Speaker 4: do you like And she's like Sam Sam Sam, Sam

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Speaker 4: Sam Sam, And I'm like, okay, like let's dig into Sam.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, when they when we gave

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Speaker 5: them like they're alone time the two of them to talk.

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Speaker 5: We were still in the room. We both walked out.

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Speaker 5: We saw her face change mid conversation, like you could

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Speaker 5: almost see the light bulb go off in her head

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Speaker 5: where it's like this guy, ain't it interesting?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's shocking. Okay, I want to continue this conversation,

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Speaker 2: but let's start at the beginning, because we do have

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Speaker 2: an episode of Breakdown and I don't want to keep

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Speaker 2: you guys all day. Jin and the men are in

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Speaker 2: Seattle this week, obviously because we have Jason and Molly

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Speaker 2: here with us helping break down this week's episode. Jason

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Speaker 2: and Molly, Hey, you live in Seattle, so this was

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Speaker 2: just a ratic around the corner for you too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like old hat.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean actually in the radio station where

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Speaker 4: Molly used to work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a super cool piece of information. I

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Speaker 2: didn't think I realized that you did radio for seven years,

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Speaker 2: but that was the radio station, so it felt at

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Speaker 2: home for you to go back and host a date there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all the people in the building, my boss.

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Speaker 3: Who helped set all this up, Molly's chest pumping, everybody

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Speaker 3: else walk the door.

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Speaker 2: She's always the star of the show, Jason, No, wonder

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Speaker 2: you don't watch it. He's just kind of the goat.

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Speaker 2: She's the goat. We start out this episode with a

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Speaker 2: scene of charity in gin to Together. Charity is probably

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Speaker 2: a breath of fresh air for Jim. I'm assuming Jason,

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Speaker 2: when you were the Bachelor, did any past bachelor's come

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Speaker 4: No, when I was on the Batch, when I was

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Speaker 4: on the Bachelorette, the girl who was the Bachelorette. No, No,

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Speaker 4: when I was the bachelor in New Zealand, the girl

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Speaker 4: who I was on the batch, she came, and I

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Speaker 4: think they wanted to bring some drama into it, and

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Speaker 4: she was just there for advice, but they made it

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Speaker 4: look like she was coming to try to get me back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it.

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Speaker 3: Had nothing to do that.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've mentioned that Jason, you haven't watched a lot

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Speaker 2: of this season, but Molly you have, and so going

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Speaker 2: into this episode, kind of what were you looking forward

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Speaker 2: to finding out about these guys before you got to

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Speaker 2: meet him actually in person. I mean, obviously Marcus has

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Speaker 2: the first one on one date. That's somebody that you know.

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Speaker 2: I think the viewership has been very excited about since

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Speaker 2: So anybody else that you're really excited to learn more

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Speaker 5: Gosh. I mean there's so many guys that I don't

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Speaker 5: feel like they've developed very much. Like we knew nothing

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Speaker 5: has really been focused between Devin and Sam, So I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think I just we wanted to know more about

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Speaker 4: Those two, don't you think when you were Also, when

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Speaker 5: I mean, we'll get into our date. Jason and I

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Speaker 5: walked away from it and we were like, Okay, on

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Speaker 5: the count of three, say who your favorite was in

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Speaker 5: the room, and we both have the same answer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I do think the show has had seasons going back

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Speaker 2: in for and Ashley and I are always very critical

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Speaker 2: but also very celibratory for the show because it has

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Speaker 2: brought us a lot of good things in life. I

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Speaker 2: do think what we're seeing in some of the most

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Speaker 2: recent seasons, not Joey's. I think Joey's was kind of

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Speaker 2: an anomaly here. The character building of the contestants has

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Speaker 2: been weak, Yeah, meaning we don't get to know much

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Speaker 2: about any of them, but when we do, we get

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Speaker 2: most of the time we're just rooting for him. There's

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Speaker 2: very few people from Joe's season we were ever cheering against.

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Speaker 2: It's just you get to know their stories.

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Speaker 4: Is that intentional that they're not doing the character stuff

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Speaker 4: you think or the character development?

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Speaker 2: I would assume it's not, because I think the show

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Speaker 2: this season, I would have blamed it on the lead

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Speaker 2: Jen is bringing out in them. I don't think they're

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Speaker 2: reciprocating kind of that response on here's my story, here's

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Speaker 2: just I think it's hard.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know, and like Jens, Jen was awesome.

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Speaker 4: We had a great time with her, but the producers

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Speaker 4: also said, like from their perspective.

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Speaker 5: Generally having a hard time getting pulling.

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Speaker 3: Stuff out of her.

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Speaker 4: They thought Jen was being a little bit more close

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Speaker 4: and I again, I only have one episode to watch him.

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Speaker 3: Like, man, she looks great, right, she's doing great on

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Speaker 4: But like what they had said up to the point

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Speaker 4: when we met them was it was more challenging for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that makes sense.

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Speaker 5: So good in the episode to see more of Marcus

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Speaker 5: and like hear more of his personal family life. I mean,

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Speaker 5: they just teed him up if he wants to be

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Speaker 5: a bachelor, Like holy hell, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean I watched one episode and I'm like, if he

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Speaker 4: the only reason if he's not the bachelor he is

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Speaker 4: if he says.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, I mean this episode or he gets chosen.

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Speaker 2: But like, yeah, this episode was it was I'd say,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to the adjective maybe shocking to

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Speaker 2: we do know that he know he served, he's a veteran,

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Speaker 2: He's gone through a bunch of stuff, and he's he's

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Speaker 2: mentioned that, but he has been more reserved in every

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Speaker 2: other moment other than when he's like opened up at

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Speaker 2: the very beginning of the season. This episode he shares

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Speaker 2: his story, and his story is one where I'm sitting

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Speaker 2: I'm you know, I wrote a whole book on loneliness

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Speaker 2: and why you know, on connection, and I'm like, this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my first guess is Jonathan.

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Speaker 4: Without a doubt, Like it's not like if they're attracted

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because at this point too, you're hosting a date

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't want to make anyone feel bad, and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's super awkward to be in that room.

441
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,880
Speaker 2: Like she was so she.

442
00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 3: Is so attracted to him. She was, and I think, yes,

443
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 3: said the attraction piece of Sam.

444
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,520
Speaker 4: Yes, Sam's like this former athlete. There were things that

445
00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 4: Sam said that like they had to edit out.

446
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,520
Speaker 3: They were so terrible. We can't even talk about that.

447
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 4: But I will say, like I think and I can't

448
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 4: figure out what happened because I would like if I

449
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 4: didn't expect Sam to win, but I expected Sam to

450
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 4: get a hometown date for sure. Something else must have happened,

451
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,120
Speaker 4: And I know there's the production aspect, like they may

452
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,439
Speaker 4: have told her. Let me give you example, they may

453
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 4: have told her about something that really set her off.

454
00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 4: And I'll give you one example that happened to me.

455
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 4: I remember I was on a date back in Black

456
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 4: and White TV with a girl who was on the show,

457
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 4: and I was They initially said, hey, we need you

458
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:09,919
Speaker 4: to go on a date with somebody that you know

459
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,400
Speaker 4: you're going to send home later that day.

460
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,440
Speaker 3: So that was the plan, and I was like, Okay,

461
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,919
Speaker 3: this sucks. This is how the show works.

462
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,719
Speaker 4: So I go on the date and halfway through the date,

463
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 4: I'm like I really like it, Like she's awesome, and

464
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,679
Speaker 4: they're like, hey, mesnik, she's a full time smoker. What

465
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 4: do you think now, right? So they knew that I

466
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 4: had a kid, and like in like, you got in

467
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,400
Speaker 4: my head and I'm not picking somebody who smokes full time.

468
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 3: That's not my thing.

469
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 4: So they got into my head and they knew that

470
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,879
Speaker 4: I was going to send her home because of that comment.

471
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 3: I feel like.

472
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 4: There's something that was said that set her off because

473
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,880
Speaker 4: she was so in like before she walked in, when

474
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 4: Sam was before all the guys walked in, it was

475
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,239
Speaker 4: like Sam Sam Sam, Sam helped me get to know

476
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 4: these other guys better. But by the way Sam Sam

477
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 4: Sam Sam.

478
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's more something happened that she doesn't

479
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 5: give her anything. It doesn't say she asked him multiple times,

480
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 5: but why do you like me? But why do you

481
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 5: think you're in love with me? Why do you think

482
00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 5: we're compoued? And he gives just words but there's nothing.

483
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,199
Speaker 4: But I know, but that whole thing to me is

484
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 4: like everybody's saying that, And if everybody's saying that, that's

485
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 4: coming from somewhere, you're saying that because they were show

486
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 4: on the show last night.

487
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 5: Also, but I felt that when we were filmy, we're

488
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 5: having an argument on this podcast right now.

489
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: No, this is good.

490
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 5: This we were when we were filming, the two of

491
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 5: them had a Loane time and we were in there

492
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,239
Speaker 5: with him. We had ear pieces in and Sam. They

493
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 5: would ask each other a question. Sam was rambling on

494
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 5: for so long. They'd be like, Molly, cut him off

495
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 5: and ask another question, tell him to stop talking and

496
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 5: ask another question. He just kept going and going and

497
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 5: going and going.

498
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 4: Well, that can be also nerves. And again I don't

499
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 4: think Sam's near Again. I want to like, he's not

500
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 4: nearly as bad as they're bay saying. He's got some stuff.

501
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 4: I'm sure like, and I think what he wanted more

502
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 4: than anything is like and maybe Jen's not the right person.

503
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 4: He does want to be with somebody. He wants to

504
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 4: get married. He wants that and he probably saw it

505
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 4: right in front of him and it.

506
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 3: Just wasn't working out for him.

507
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 5: Well, he's foot in mouth moments where he's like I

508
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 5: thought it was going to be Daisy or Maria.

509
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: A point I was going to bring up where it's like, Okay,

510
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 2: no matter what we say about Sam, I'm not here

511
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 2: to bash him. But like, there are some things that

512
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 2: he was saying that you're like, hey, that's there's just

513
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 2: no way to get around what that you just said

514
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 2: that he thought it was.

515
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 4: And I will say, like, there are things that didn't

516
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 4: make it on the air that will never ever be

517
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 4: said by anybody.

518
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 3: No, It's like that was a.

519
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 5: Moment where I was just like, oh my god, I

520
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 5: can't believe you just said that.

521
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it cannot make Jin feel good. And

522
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 2: so the timeline is this you're saying that Jen came

523
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 2: in and it's Sam Sam Sam Sam is somebody your

524
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: two are going to look out for. And then was

525
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: there a moment during this because we're watching it as

526
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 2: viewers and we're going, this is getting awkward. There are

527
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: things that he's saying that if you know we were dating,

528
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 2: you know, I would definitely been thrown off by or

529
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 2: had a thousand questions to dig into, or just maybe

530
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: said hey, this isn't working, like just got up and

531
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: walked away. Was there a moment during your date where

532
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 2: you felt like she realized this is maybe not the

533
00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: guy that I thought he was.

534
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw it. I saw it when she's when

535
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 5: they were having their alone time and he's talking and

536
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 5: she finally is like but why, but why do you

537
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 5: think it's me? That's where I was like, she's gone

538
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 5: to him.

539
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 4: I again, like I know that that happened, But that's

540
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 4: coming straight from a producer, Like I went through this

541
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 4: with you on the show specifically, I had problems with

542
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 4: you not opening up, and the producers are like.

543
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 2: This is why I want to get it.

544
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 4: Can't continue until she opens up because you were introverted.

545
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 4: Yeah right, And there's something about Sam like and again

546
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 4: I get it, like he's not the right guy for her,

547
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 4: But those questions specifically are coming from somewhere else.

548
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 3: Maybe Okay, she don't like my perspective.

549
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: I think these are great perspectives. This is why the

550
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 2: two of you thrived during your time podcast hosting together.

551
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: So the light ball went off. I do say there

552
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: is a personality trait that I always watch out for

553
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 2: every season. Anybody listens to this podcast knows what it is.

554
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: It's my biggest pet peeve in life. It's somebody that

555
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: describes themselves by, for example, by saying you're a selfless person.

556
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 2: I also am a selfless person. I just don't think

557
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 2: we as humans have the ability to actually describe ourselves

558
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 2: in that way. I think we need to leave that

559
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 2: up to somebody else to say, Hey, you know, you're

560
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: a very selfless person. You say thank you, Jason, same

561
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 2: to you, same to you, Molly. So you guys can

562
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: take that you're the goat Molly that you shouldn't hear that,

563
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: know that, And so that always feels like during the show,

564
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 2: and the reason it bothers me is because it always

565
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: does feel like it comes up in very important moments,

566
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 2: and it does make the conversation more focused on myself

567
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 2: than it does the other person. And that's really outside

568
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 2: of everything else with the you know, without doubling down

569
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: on Sam, what really felt like to me as a

570
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: viewer was most bothersome about this moment and your date

571
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: was that everything did come back to himself at some level.

572
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: It was never a curiosity or an intention of getting

573
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: knowing Jin better. It was more of I need to

574
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: get the words in about myself in this moment. Did

575
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: you guys feel that way when you're hosting it?

576
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's a really good point, Like you're like, hey,

577
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 4: I'm really trustworthy and I'm honest person.

578
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: Well just be that way, don't you even't have to.

579
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 2: Say it right?

580
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: That's a bit. I mean, that's actually a really a

581
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 3: good point. Yeah, I mean I think that's showed through well.

582
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: The Sam Jin kind of fiasco is coming to a

583
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: head during your date. But then we obviously have another

584
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,239
Speaker 2: one on one date to get to before we go

585
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: back to Sam and Jen. As we finish out this

586
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 2: episode of the podcast, we have a one on one

587
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: date with Jeremy. Jeremy is somebody that we really haven't

588
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: heard much about, we don't know much about, and I

589
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: really thought, quite frankly, that he was going home this episode.

590
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: I thought that was going to be a one on

591
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: one date. He's gone, what changed for you know, for

592
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: the two of you during this date to where you go, well, okay,

593
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: he actually is going to stick around.

594
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't know if I had that moment because

595
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 5: I too was like, well, we haven't seen him at all,

596
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 5: so they're setting him up to be the guy that

597
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 5: gets sent home on a one on one date, like

598
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 5: that's why he's getting it. I don't even know if

599
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 5: there was a moment for me. I was like, we

600
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 5: don't know anything about this guy. They're not really talking

601
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 5: about anything, or they're not showing them talking about anything important,

602
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 5: so like, I don't even know, that's a good question.

603
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 5: It was almost like when he was talking about his mom,

604
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 5: do you.

605
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 3: Remember, like and maybe I'm making this up. I thought.

606
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 4: I remember her saying like, I'm pretty sure I knew

607
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 4: who my three hometown kind of date, like she was

608
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 4: kind of getting to the point where she knew who

609
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 4: their three were for the hometown dates, but she didn't

610
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 4: know her fourth when we saw her. Yes, I like,

611
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 4: I have this memory of like some kind of conversation

612
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 4: around there, and maybe it was just like I don't

613
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 4: know who my fourth is, so like, and he really

614
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 4: earned that during the date, maybe because I do. I like,

615
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 4: I remember that from for my season. I'm like, i'

616
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 4: pretty sure I know him three, but I don't know

617
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 4: who the fourth is. I got to really dig into

618
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 4: this one.

619
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, I would agree. I think that is

620
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: probably common that you're like, hey, i've got it solid

621
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 2: top three, but the fourth is kind of you know,

622
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 2: out there. However, Grant seemed to be far in a

623
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: way above Jeremy up until this week. In every episode,

624
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: there was never a chance where he was not going

625
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: to make the final four. And I think most people's opinions, yeah,

626
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 2: that was such.

627
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 5: A good shocking to us. We loved him when we

628
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 5: met him, and Riley, that is Riley's favorite. She's like,

629
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 5: if Grant's the Bachelor, I'm going on it.

630
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, eleven year olds on it.

631
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

632
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: And then he was funny.

633
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: I just don't know what happened there because he was

634
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 2: such a favorite. They had such a good connection. He

635
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 2: obviously opens up. Last week, he has a really sweet

636
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: moment with Marcus where he's like, dude, I'm sorry, I

637
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: have to tell you this. I just don't know have

638
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: anybody else to talk to, but like, I'm in love

639
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: with this girl, and Marcus like, hey, it's all good,

640
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: I got your back. Won't tell anybody, it's all It's

641
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 2: all fine. And then he's gone this week and we

642
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: don't really have a for it other than the fact

643
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 2: that Jeremy does kind of sneak in with this unexpected rose. Now,

644
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: their date was not not great. It was good. It

645
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: was a good date. They had a lot of really

646
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 2: tough conversations about you know, their their fath systems, their

647
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: faith traditions, where they come up in life, what they

648
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: desire for a family, how they navigate that together. Those

649
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: are very important conversations when you're looking to spend your

650
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 2: life with somebody. But still, I didn't feel like that

651
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 2: date pushed him to that place where I would be

652
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: seeing him next week.

653
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 4: But you know, can I tell you, like by watching

654
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: your first episode way midway through this season, Yeah, he

655
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: was great. He didn't surprise me at all. I think

656
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: he deserved to be there and we'll see what happened.

657
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's he's a runner. He's my favorite.

658
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: He's my favorite now.

659
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: It's actually an interesting perspective. Yeah, without any like backstory

660
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: or watching this season that you know, you come in

661
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: you're like, No, that guy's great.

662
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 3: Yes, I see what didn't show up on her date.

663
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: He's my favorite now.

664
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 2: So you know, Jeremy does get the road, so that

665
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: means two people have the rows at this point, Marcus

666
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: and Jeremy. And we're getting to the end of this

667
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: episode where we see Jin come back into the hotel

668
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: that all the guys are staying pretty fired up. And

669
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: the confusion for me in this scene and in this

670
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: moment for Jin is I actually don't know why she's

671
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 2: fired up. Yes, it didn't feel like her and Sam

672
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: were connecting. Yes, it felt like the date that you

673
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: two hosted with Sam. It did feel like they were

674
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: on a communication miss most of the time. But it

675
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: does feel like to me when she comes back into

676
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: the room to find Sam, or back into the hotel

677
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: to find Sam, that like there's this like fire inside

678
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: of her. Do do you have any idea on where

679
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: that would be coming from, because for me, it feels

680
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: like it should have just been one of those moments

681
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: where she's like, I'm just confused. Sam. We got to talk,

682
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: but it feels like she's on a mission for something.

683
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: That's what I said.

684
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 5: That's a producer in our carpent in her.

685
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 4: Ear only because I've been there before and you don't

686
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 4: realize what's happening at the time.

687
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: And I could be totally wrong.

688
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 4: I mean we got produced again and like we've been

689
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 4: to this man.

690
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: That's what I mean.

691
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 4: Like there's something like I just don't we're not privy

692
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 4: to those conversations because like there's no way like she

693
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 4: went from like he's my number one I'm not saying

694
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 4: he was his number one, but like number one attraction,

695
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 4: like she can't get him physically to like being ousted

696
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: and mad at him that quickly.

697
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: I don't know.

698
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 5: It did seem a little like jarring, like whoa, you're

699
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 5: mad about something?

700
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I thought she was gonna go and be like, hey, Sam,

701
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: you have a girlfriend back home, Like I thought, that's

702
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: what it felt like to me, where like this was

703
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: leading up to big revelation, but it wasn't. The two

704
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: of them just had to talk.

705
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 4: Remember, like she like storms out of there and she

706
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 4: needs to cool off, and I'm like, WHOA, Like this

707
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: escalated quickly.

708
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: Something changed, and you have to be right. Somebody got

709
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: in her ear. But it's not like they were getting

710
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: in her ear and telling her something that wasn't probably true.

711
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 2: They were just for sure bringing to light stuff that

712
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: she was not able to see up until this point.

713
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe they told her what he said. Oh god, stop,

714
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 4: I know we'll never say it.

715
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's just this mystery. I read it. I'm

716
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: sure if you go on read it in a couple

717
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: days they'll find out what happened. No, they're really good

718
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: at it. Okay, So she comes back out of the room,

719
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: she has to cool off. To summarize that whole long

720
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: back and forth, it's just more of what was existing

721
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: during your date. It's just the two of them. Well

722
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: mostly he's just talking past her. None of it's connecting.

723
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: Even when, like you, you're like, hey, she's teeming you

724
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: up for a very easy answer. The response was missing.

725
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: And I am going to go back to what Jason

726
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: said earlier because I do think this is true, and

727
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: I feel for any person in this scenario, good not

728
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: the right environment for him. We're not going to double

729
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: down on him and all the stuff that's gone on

730
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: all season for him already. I feel like in this moment,

731
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: what we really saw was that this dude is so

732
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: insanely nervous, probably coming based on some way he feels

733
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: about himself, because once the camera's on him, and once

734
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: the attention is on him, and once he's getting pushed

735
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: a little bit, like he has that catch in his throat,

736
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: he can't even speak.

737
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 4: That nervous cats. There's something ner he was super nervous about.

738
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 4: I mean, it's either allergies or nerves.

739
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: Ye, allergies their nerves. I would mean it could be both,

740
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: but it did feel like to me when I watched this,

741
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: this dude pushed, felt pushed up against the wall that

742
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: he couldn't get out of. He didn't know how to

743
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: answer anything well, he wasn't getting anywhere good. His smooth

744
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: talking had kind of come to an end, so that

745
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna work, and he got very nervous, and it

746
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: felt like that's what caused the massive disconnect to where

747
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: he's ended up going home because he had no way out,

748
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: like there was no good path for him for.

749
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 4: I was still shock like, I like if he was

750
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 4: sitting there, wouldn't you have said one hundred percent he

751
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 4: gets to him down date.

752
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 5: I thought.

753
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: That's such a that's a very interesting perspect because you

754
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: two were with him that week, when you even left

755
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: that date, even after the fiasca that happened, and even

756
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: after their kind of conversation, you two still felt like

757
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: there's no chance he doesn't still get a hometown.

758
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: I felt one.

759
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 5: Hundred percent, Suy, Yeah, I thought he'd get a hometown.

760
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 4: I mean, like I didn't know beyond that because obviously

761
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 4: things went out, but like I was like, hands down,

762
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 4: like sitting in that room, I didn't know anybody else

763
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: Marcus's story. I knew she had a good date the

764
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 4: day before and she told us that, right, we didn't

765
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: know any of that. But sitting there with the guys

766
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: that we knew, like Grant, Sam, Jonathan and then Spencer

767
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 4: and Spencer Yah yeah, I mean and Spencer to me,

768
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 4: like I just remember going, like the guys when I

769
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 4: was on the Bachelor, there's guys that made it to

770
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 4: the final six or seven that didn't even know the

771
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 4: bat know her, so like it didn't surprise me that

772
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: there were people that weren't that close.

773
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, and he felt like so Spencer, who ends

774
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: up going home at the end of this episode along

775
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: with Grant, which was a shock to all of us. Here. Spencer,

776
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: to you during your day, you felt like he's the

777
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: one that probably is on the outside looking in. It's

778
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: pretty clear, but like kind.

779
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 5: Of middle of the road. He didn't stand out. They didn't,

780
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 5: he didn't talk a ton, and then watching the season,

781
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 5: he's non existent.

782
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 4: I mean, it only stuck out the two people that

783
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 4: stuck out to me where she wanted to ask. She

784
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 4: wanted us to dig into Sam and then she's like, Okay,

785
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 4: there's this guy Devin who looks like Pete Davidson, and like,

786
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's just funny or if I

787
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 4: need to find out more, but can you dig into

788
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 4: him because he seems just like the funny guy.

789
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so Spencer was on the outside looking in,

790
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: which makes sense because Spencer is going home along with Grant.

791
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: Final thing I want to talk to you guys about

792
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: before we kind of go in predictions for the rest

793
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: of the season. Spencer's last scene, as he says goodbye,

794
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: he calls his mom. His mom is his mom is

795
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: obviously very sweet, she obviously calls him baby. I think

796
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: we've made that perfectly clear, which is fine. Moms can

797
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: do what they do, what they want, how they want

798
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: to do it. Outside of you know that conversation. Am

799
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: I wrong? You guys have been around the show for

800
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: a while now. In saying yes, I do think Marcus

801
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: is like teed up to be the next lead. It

802
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 2: felt like the show was trying to make Spencer that guy.

803
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 5: They were trying to do something by showing that for sure,

804
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 5: Like when I was like, they've never done this, This

805
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 5: is weird. Why are they showing this? They're setting him

806
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 5: up for something. But how could they set him up

807
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 5: to be the bachelor now when they've been able to

808
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 5: edit everything and he's hardly in the show.

809
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: They know that they need backups, Yeah, they do need backups.

810
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 4: They know that the first person might not accept and

811
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 4: so on, and so far we didn't even talk about

812
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 4: all the girls coming to our house.

813
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's a whole different in Town trista charity,

814
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 5: they all came for dinner. They all came over.

815
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, but not on the show.

816
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 5: No, no, no, they were in town filming the day before. Yeah,

817
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 5: so we're like, why don't you girls all come over?

818
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 5: So we had a rager at the Mesnik house with

819
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:56,479
Speaker 5: all a girl.

820
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they were really tired the day they filmed.

821
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah was it fun?

822
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, we had a blast. We had so much

823
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 5: fun I had. I would have to catch myself every

824
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 5: once in a while and be like, oh my gosh,

825
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 5: I'm like twenty years older than these girls.

826
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: So who was all there? Who were the girls that

827
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: actually came over?

828
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 5: Trista Not Trista obviously Trista, Charity, Daisy and Kelsey and.

829
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: Riley had gotten into the season before, so Riley.

830
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 5: Was super excited for Fine, like these girls on TV

831
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 5: and now they're in my house.

832
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mom and dad, you're so cool. Ye wait, why

833
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 2: am I missing something? Where Daisy and Kelsey they weren't

834
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 2: on this episode? Were they?

835
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? They were the Wicked date.

836
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: Oh geez goodness. Yeah, that feels like such a small

837
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: like early part of the episode. Okay, you're right, one

838
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: hundred percent.

839
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was super cool because we obviously know Trista

840
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: really well, but to get they could know some of

841
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 4: the younger girls like they were super cool.

842
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: Well, they're they're and it's fun to see kind of

843
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: this next generation because they are they're they're very similar

844
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: to how we all were coming off the show. They're

845
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: excited it's new, but they're just great hangs. Like they're

846
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: a lot of fun to hang out with. So that's

847
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: that's special. And here's what's really cool. It probably meant

848
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 2: a lot to them like that you guys had them

849
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: over like this means a lot to those contestants because

850
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: you don't get those like really fun, non like event

851
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: moments where it's just like, let's just go have fun

852
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: at a house.

853
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 5: Yeah. Actually, Daisy, who had reached out before after following

854
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 5: just being so grateful. She's like, that was so much fun.

855
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for welcoming us into your home.

856
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 5: We love getting to night like she she is as

857
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 5: sweet as it gets with charity.

858
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god.

859
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. I don't think anybody shocked that Daisy's sweet.

860
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: Her name is Daisy, so it'd be hard not to.

861
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 6: You have to be nice.

862
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, to go back to the Spencer thing, I kind

863
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: of they need backups and it wouldn't be shocking for

864
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: the show is confusing. It is as it is to

865
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: pick a lead who hasn't been shown a lot Clayton,

866
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: Zach come to mind. Yeahigs Jen, Like they have picked

867
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: people who kind of fly under the radarter in their

868
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: season and they kind of try to launch them up

869
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: to be the lead. I don't think it's a great strategy,

870
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: but it is what has happened here as of recently. Okay,

871
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: so Ashley's not with us today, obviously, she's momming it

872
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 2: somewhere well actually nowhere in Rhode Island. They just went

873
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: back to their home and we do this every week

874
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: at the end of this episode when we record Top three.

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Speaker 2: Now it's only four people left. But who are your

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Speaker 2: Top three? Now? Moving into the final few weeks in

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Speaker 2: order from favorite to third.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna say favorite, Marcus Jonathan, me too, Devin,

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Speaker 5: and then Jeremy. I just I don't see it with

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Speaker 5: Jeremy because we don't really know him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Marcus Jonathan for sure. And then I

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Speaker 4: want Grant to come back.

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Speaker 3: Riley and I love Grant. I want Grant like some

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Speaker 3: people come back once in a while.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm surprised Jeremy's not Jason's number one. He said

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Speaker 2: he watched one episode, was like I think this is

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Speaker 2: the guy.

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Speaker 1: Like.

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Speaker 3: Did you were saying only goes so far, but like,

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Speaker 3: well that's you.

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Speaker 2: Guys have the exact same top three as me. I

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Speaker 2: do think Jeremy's on the outside looking in, so I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be shocked. I would be shocked if anybody but Devin,

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Speaker 2: Marcus and Jonathan move on then to the Fantasy Suite week.

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Speaker 2: Jen has been fantastic. She's a great lead, she's carrying

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Speaker 2: the show. Well. She's been a fun watch and we

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Speaker 2: continue to to want to watch her. Jason and Molly,

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Speaker 2: thank you for coming on the show. It means a

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Speaker 2: lot that you spent this much time and that you

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Speaker 2: hosted an episode. It's always fun to catch up with

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Speaker 2: the two of you, and we really really hope to

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Speaker 2: see you back here soon. Hopefully when they come back

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Speaker 2: to Seattle, you can host another day.

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Speaker 3: I know, here's some advice.

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Speaker 4: When you have jenn On, and I know you will

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Speaker 4: at some point, she'll want to take a shot with you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, shot a clock, likes it.

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Speaker 2: What what's the what's the liquor of choice?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 5: None, I hate taking shots for her.

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Speaker 3: It's called alcohol.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jen had tequila.

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Speaker 2: Solid, solid move. I love it. Shot a clock, it's

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Speaker 2: shot a clock here. It's almost Famous podcast Until next time.

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Speaker 2: I've been Ben, just repeat, I've been, I've been then

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Speaker 2: your names? Oh no, go ahead, you guys are great.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon. Everybody. Thank you.

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