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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing

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Speaker 1: in Keels. The show is all about celebrating extraordinary superwomen

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Speaker 1: who will be sharing their incredible journeys to the top,

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Speaker 1: all while staying glamorous. Today with me, we have writer, performer,

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Speaker 1: and entrepreneur Aaron Foster on the pod. You may remember

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Speaker 1: her sister Sarah, who was on a few weeks back,

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Speaker 1: and in this episode, Aarin talks about trying on different

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Speaker 1: identities throughout her twenties and not knowing who she truly

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Speaker 1: was at that age until really much more recently, but

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Speaker 1: now clearly Aarin feels more comfortable in herself than ever

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Speaker 1: before and is so proud of all that she's accomplishing.

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Speaker 1: And I've been lucky enough to watch a big part

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Speaker 1: of her journey. And I'm pretty sure I'm the number

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Speaker 1: one fan of Aaron Foster and always have been and

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Speaker 1: will continue to be and I cannot wait to see

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Speaker 1: what she does next because she's living her dreams. I

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Speaker 1: am so excited for you all to listen to this episode. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: it was such a good conversation. One of my favorite

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Speaker 1: things about Aaron is she's a stray shooter. She absolutely

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Speaker 1: is just incredibly self aware and you know, and I

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Speaker 1: think she's very candid about her feelings about herself, her journey.

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Speaker 1: She's very humble, And again, I think it's important to

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Speaker 1: note that, you know, some of the guests I've had

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Speaker 1: on the podcast have admittedly grown up in privilege, and

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Speaker 1: I just want to really point out that that doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean it makes the ride easier. It really doesn't, not

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Speaker 1: for everybody. And I think that we're all human and

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Speaker 1: we all have very real human challenges and insecurities, and

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, Aarin speaks very openly about that,

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Speaker 1: and I think it'll be very helpful for a lot

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Speaker 1: of you to learn that despite sort of the splashy

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Speaker 1: sort of images that you may have of people that

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Speaker 1: are very real people with very real life you know,

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Speaker 1: challenges and victories and triumphs. But Aaron is incredible. She's

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Speaker 1: very impressive and very real.

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Speaker 2: So I love this one.

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Speaker 1: I always like to start a little bit because obviously

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Speaker 1: I've known you for a bajillion years.

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Speaker 2: It feels like, but of what kind of kid was

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Speaker 2: Aaron Foster like?

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Speaker 1: Were you like quirky and weird and outgoing, or like

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Speaker 2: Are you the same? Are you different?

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Speaker 3: Are you?

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Speaker 4: I think I'm different, hopefully hopefully. I was very like

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Speaker 4: I really needed a lot of attention. I was really

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Speaker 4: like the funny kid in class and like always acting out.

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Speaker 4: I did very badly in school. I really hated school.

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Speaker 4: I just felt like you did. I would think of

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Speaker 3: A good student.

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Speaker 1: I was good, and I was well behaved, and I

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Speaker 1: was all the things, but I didn't like being a

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Speaker 1: student at all. I would have started working at like

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you were just very like entrepreneurial.

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Speaker 4: I think I was just not great at following the

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Speaker 4: so I would get really frustrated, and so I would

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Speaker 3: I was always just pushing back on so many things.

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Speaker 4: And I wasn't ever just like calm the hell down

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Speaker 3: I was just always like fighting something.

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Speaker 4: And so I was then like a really frustrated teenager

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Speaker 4: and you know, growing up in a big, complicated family.

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Speaker 3: It kind of added to a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of my passe because I didn't know, like what's my position?

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Speaker 4: Like I really wanted to stand out, and that was

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Speaker 4: because I was just so scared of being like forgettable

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's so interesting. I've done so interesting.

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Speaker 1: Okay because now I like because now I think about

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Speaker 1: like it was sort of you were clearly like having identity,

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Speaker 2: And it was it was this huge thing where I

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Speaker 2: But like, I think this is like she's done.

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Speaker 4: Like a circle, Like I finally gave up this. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think I was just so didn't want to be

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Speaker 3: And so I was always trying to create an identity

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Speaker 4: I think that your twenties is a lot about that

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Speaker 4: for a lot of people. Sure, mine was just maybe

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Speaker 4: Women, are really trying on a lot of different identities

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Speaker 4: in the twenties. And then sometimes you take an identity

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Speaker 4: on because of a relationship. And I did plenty of

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Speaker 4: forgive myself for being so like immature about that for

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Speaker 3: I wish I had just like taken a deep breath and.

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Speaker 4: Accepted myself for who I was and settled into it

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Speaker 4: sooner because it's just sort of like lost time in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that, I do. I understand that.

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Speaker 1: I know, but you know then, but don't you in

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Speaker 1: a way feel like I feel more and more and

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's really helped me a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I feel like every single chapter it was almost like this.

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Speaker 1: It's like laying brick right, and it's like I feel

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Speaker 1: like this epic place professionally personally, but yes, like it

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Speaker 1: But think about it the other way. What if you

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Speaker 1: and then all this stuff that I've been younger, you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, life is long in a lot of ways, and

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Speaker 4: and so I do think that, you know, however windy

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Speaker 4: You just have to be moving in a forward direction,

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Speaker 4: it's really easy to blame a lot of different external factors.

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Speaker 4: You can blame bad boyfriends, or bad bosses, or of

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Speaker 4: a lot of things, pressures and stuff. But really and

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Speaker 4: truly you have to take responsibility for yourself because the victim,

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Speaker 3: You can't be a victim.

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Speaker 4: Like you could have toxic family, you could have toxic friends,

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Speaker 4: bad boyfriends. Absolutely, but like at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: either take yourself out of those situations or cut off

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Speaker 4: your expectations of them. But you can't let it like

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Speaker 4: So it took me a long time for me to

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Speaker 4: So even if it's not like it's not about blaming yourself,

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Speaker 3: You have to take yourself out of that rotation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's polarizing, and it ultimately like trips you

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Speaker 1: up Right, I always say the biggest obstacle in my

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Speaker 1: life has always been me, and I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of times to your point, you're just tripping over yourself. Right,

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Speaker 1: we're in our heads and listen, in all fairness, all

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Speaker 1: of those things do influence your behavior and how it

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Speaker 1: whether it's a tough family, whether it's friends, boyfriends, whatever

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Speaker 1: you're saying, it's how you actually choose to deal with things.

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Speaker 1: And it was interesting because Tina Turner just said something

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Speaker 1: I think, to your point, otherwise, we're just a victim

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Speaker 4: Lives of a situation, even if you are a victim, right,

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Speaker 4: even if you are a victim, look at yourself as

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Speaker 3: It doesn't get you anywhere. It can get you.

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Speaker 4: Sympathy from people, absolutely, but like that doesn't really take

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Speaker 3: So you can do it, you can have.

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Speaker 4: My mom used kind of always say like I would

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Speaker 4: then I start over again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because what else are you going to do? We

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Speaker 3: don't have a choice, you know.

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Speaker 1: Well you do, And I think that choice once you

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Speaker 1: sort of to your point for you later in life.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I think for me later in life,

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Speaker 1: I got to that point where I'm like, ah, like

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Speaker 1: these toxic people, no, no, no, no, I'm just going to

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Speaker 1: feel like you've made so many kind of like transitions.

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Speaker 1: To me, you've always been the same person, right Like,

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Speaker 1: been this straight shooter, very courageous. I don't feel like

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Speaker 4: makes you feel like, oh, I have a partner.

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Speaker 3: Yep, It's that's the best stuff. It's just being well

443
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Speaker 3: suited for each other.

444
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Speaker 4: And like, I think that for me, it's the domestic

445
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Speaker 4: bliss that I'm in that is so like simple and clean.

446
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Speaker 4: That is the most exciting week. I never thought that

447
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Speaker 4: I was going to have that. So like, you're in

448
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449
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450
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451
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Speaker 3: He's appreciative of you. Like that's the dream. Yeah, that's

452
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453
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458
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459
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Speaker 1: It's it's so onnial, but you're you're right though, You're

479
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Speaker 1: you're very right about that, because it's funny Rogers, you know,

480
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Speaker 1: a couple times a year he gets these like beautiful

481
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Speaker 1: gifts and all these things, and really like the fact

482
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Speaker 1: that he gets up and goes to Starbucks at six

483
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Speaker 1: and is back by six twenty five and then takes

484
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Speaker 1: the kids to school at seven point fifteen. I'm like,

485
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Speaker 1: what you don't understand is this is everything, like the

486
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Speaker 1: fact that I'm literally too like one eye open and

487
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Speaker 1: you just handed me this.

488
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Speaker 2: Like Vecti store books. It's six fifteen.

489
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Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't understand that that's more meaningful than

490
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Speaker 1: anything right now, and so and I mean it, I

491
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Speaker 1: really do mean it, because I don't know. For me

492
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Speaker 1: to watch you in this and sort of having this

493
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Speaker 1: life and also being able to do what you love,

494
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Speaker 1: you just seem very at peace. And I think that,

495
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Speaker 1: Like I think for me just as your friend, it's

496
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Speaker 1: very obvious to me that like, okay, so it didn't

497
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Speaker 1: happen at twenty five, but I mean I do only

498
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Speaker 1: it happened like, yes, I chose my career very early,

499
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Speaker 1: but like I don't know that I found peace until

500
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Speaker 1: I was your age or more.

501
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I don't.

502
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Speaker 1: And piece is like it's a that's a hard thing

503
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Speaker 1: to find. Honestly, you can find success, but that doesn't

504
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: mean you find peace, if that makes sense.

505
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Speaker 3: No.

506
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Speaker 4: I think we also like we're always looking at what

507
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 4: else somebody else is doing and thinking, oh shit, maybe

508
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Speaker 4: I should be doing a little bit more of that,

509
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 4: or maybe I should be a little more of this,

510
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 4: and it really gets in your head. I really don't

511
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Speaker 4: believe that the same recipe works for the for everybody. No,

512
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 4: it's a different Yeah, there's a different formula for everyone's happiness.

513
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Speaker 4: But I do think there's like some main factors in

514
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Speaker 4: peace of mind and happiness that sort of runs throughout humanity.

515
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Speaker 3: And I don't think that it's money and fame and success.

516
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Speaker 3: I think those things strip you of it.

517
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Speaker 2: I would agree with that, and especially I think.

518
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Speaker 3: It's something that you do.

519
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Speaker 4: You know, you want people to think you're good at

520
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 4: something and like respect that you do a good job

521
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 4: at it, and look up to you or be able

522
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 4: to mentor someone. And obviously being able to sustain a

523
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Speaker 4: life for yourself and support your family on something that

524
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Speaker 4: you and enjoy doing is extremely fl It makes you

525
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Speaker 4: feel independent as a person, and you've been doing that

526
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Speaker 4: since you're so young. And for me, more like when

527
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 4: I started in my thirties, I was able to actually

528
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 4: support myself properly and so that feels fulfilling. But I

529
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Speaker 4: don't need to be a billionaire to feel like I

530
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Speaker 4: made it. Like, No, I don't need that.

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Speaker 2: It's very exhausting.

532
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Speaker 3: Yeah, when do you get to stop?

533
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Speaker 4: You don't When do you get to stop and just

534
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 4: be like, Okay, I did some great things, and now

535
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Speaker 4: I'm going to enjoy my life, Like I don't have

536
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 4: an obsession with success. I want to be successful, but

537
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Speaker 4: I don't have an obsession that it needs to get

538
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Speaker 4: to like an insane place.

539
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Speaker 2: That's so okay. So that's super interesting.

540
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about that because I think there's

541
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: this huge, like umbrella of success and what it means

542
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: to people. And I have, as I'm sure you do,

543
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: countless people in our lives who already worth billions, and

544
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: they keep starting new things, going on these big public endeavors,

545
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Speaker 1: Like there's a huge prominent figure right now that's launching

546
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: a hair care line and like God's speed. I think

547
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 1: that's great, but it's clearly going to take down probably

548
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 1: like fifty of the best smaller businesses that are inarguably succeeding.

549
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Speaker 1: And I literally have this reaction to it, even though

550
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Speaker 1: it shouldnt affect me one way or another. I was like,

551
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Speaker 1: can't you leave some stuff to like the little people?

552
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Speaker 4: Like?

553
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: Can't you like?

554
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 3: Don't you realize I like it when things kiss you off,

555
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 3: Nothing ever pisses you off.

556
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 4: So I really like something making me mad because everything

557
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 4: makes me mad, and nothing makes me mad.

558
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Speaker 3: Things make me mad.

559
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Speaker 2: Things make me mad.

560
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: I get mad about like injustice and things I do.

561
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Speaker 1: I get not to sound like a martyr. I just

562
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: get really pissed off about things that are seemingly very

563
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: easy to sort of do the right thing, and people

564
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Speaker 1: just don't.

565
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Speaker 2: A lot of the time.

566
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Speaker 1: That sort of pisses me off. And sometimes I feel

567
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: like to get louder about things like that. But I

568
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Speaker 1: like what you're saying because I think that where I

569
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Speaker 1: think anyone would perceive you as being very successful and

570
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: at the top in many ways, right, And I'm sure

571
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Speaker 1: that you don't sit there thinking that about yourself. I

572
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: don't think most people do. But at the same time,

573
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Speaker 1: you're basically saying, Okay, if I am doing what I

574
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: love and I do some great work, right, I'm super happy.

575
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 1: Like I'm going to keep doing things that excite me. Right,

576
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: You're going to keep doing taking great opportunities collaborations, But

577
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: you don't like go to sleep at night like I

578
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: need to have this, I need to this house, I

579
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: need to make a billion dollars, I need to like when.

580
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Speaker 2: Is it enough?

581
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 4: Right?

582
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Speaker 1: Because I think, in my opinion, that's extremely toxic and

583
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: I and I see a lot of that here, So

584
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Speaker 1: how'd you get to that place where you're like, Okay,

585
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Speaker 1: I'm happy doing what I love. Granted there's a writer

586
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: strike right now, which you know you later, but which

587
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: is why I'm able to do this right on p.

588
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Speaker 2: One hundred percent.

589
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: But I think I think that's an important thing to

590
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: talk about because I think the top is such a mystery,

591
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: right because it means something different to everybody, which is

592
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Speaker 1: why the work kind of scares me a little.

593
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Speaker 4: Growing up in la and seeing so many people at

594
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 4: the top who aren't happy, you know, had a big

595
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 4: effect on me. I think watching that thing and that

596
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 4: like when you get that infectious bug of success or fame, notoriety,

597
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 4: I think that it really becomes this like endless loop

598
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 4: that you can't get out of. And I don't know

599
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 4: a lot of people who have all the things that

600
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 4: they want, who feel like they have all the things

601
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 4: that they want, right Like, we just don't know a.

602
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: Lot of those people.

603
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: And so I think that the marriages that we admire

604
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 4: are not the person who's married to like the billionaire.

605
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 4: We're envious of the person who's married to someone that

606
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 4: makes them happy and that they laugh with and who

607
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 4: they're well suited for Like, those are the relationships we admire,

608
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 4: Like the parent piled relationships we admire are the ones

609
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Speaker 4: who have like a parent who gets them and who

610
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: they want to be around, not the parent that like

611
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 4: flies them private.

612
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: You know.

613
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 4: So I think if you just look at that formula,

614
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 4: you just can clearly see those are not the elements

615
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: that were supposed to be drawing into our lives. And like,

616
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: I really believe that I really have like an abundance

617
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 4: mentality and it's not intentional. I just feel like kind

618
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: of like lucky to be here all the time because

619
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 4: I always felt like I was like the underdog when

620
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 4: I was growing up, and so the fact that I

621
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: have a seed at any table, I'm kind of like, oh,

622
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Speaker 4: that's pretty cool, like that I'm like included in this.

623
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: Or invited in this. So to me, making any money

624
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: feels like a huge win.

625
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 4: And I feel like I always will make money and

626
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 4: we'll make enough money because I think I could be

627
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 4: happy kind of at any stage that I needed to

628
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: be at and for me, like, you know, Simon started

629
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 4: his own company three years ago in COVID, and it

630
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 4: took time for it to like take off, and I

631
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 4: you know.

632
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Speaker 3: I knew that there was like friends of mine who

633
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: might be like, what does he do? What is he doing?

634
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: I don't really understand what it is. And all I

635
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: cared about was like is he happy?

636
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 4: Sure? Like I see this thing in him that is

637
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 4: that it has a goal in mind, and he is

638
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 4: like driven and he is like excited by it, and that,

639
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 4: to me is exactly what you want in your partner.

640
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: And so you know, that's all you that's all you want.

641
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 4: And so now be his company is doing so well,

642
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 4: and it makes me so happy that it's doing so well.

643
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 4: But it's more like the feeling of seeing him come

644
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 4: home every day knowing he worked his ass off. How

645
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 4: I did write by the people who work for him,

646
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 4: like you know that his his the success follows that.

647
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: It just feels good to see that. So I think that.

648
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: Hopefully your your values can get in line with like, Okay,

649
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 4: somebody said this thing.

650
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Speaker 3: I think it was Rabbi Leader said this too. He

651
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: came into the writer's room and talked to us. He

652
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: said that a person is.

653
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 4: A person who is unhappy is when their perceived values

654
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: and their lived values are really far apart. Yeah, so

655
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 4: you say, all I care about is family and my friends.

656
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: But what you actually do is you like go after

657
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 4: whatever celebrities, pay money, whatever it is. Yes, so it's

658
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: like live in line with the thing that you say

659
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 4: you care about. That's when you're going to be the happiest, be.

660
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: Your authentic self, and that's what to be honest. That's

661
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: what I always say about you and Sarah the most

662
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: is that you guys, are exactly who you are. You

663
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 1: are so honest about who you are. And you're so different.

664
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: I mean you are so you are so different. You're

665
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: so different, and I think I think there's just something

666
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: very unique about your in and I think people are

667
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: drawn to you because there is this authenticity about you.

668
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: To be honest, I don't think you've ever been one

669
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: to like pretend to like somebody.

670
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: I think you've ever.

671
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty clear when you don't and.

672
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 4: I do.

673
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: And I think and you're the middle, right, I'm the middle.

674
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: You're a middle right, So I mean, look, that's hard

675
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: to write.

676
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I think in the middle almost kind

677
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 4: of forces you into that position because you don't have

678
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 4: a role, right, you don't have a clearly defined like

679
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: who you are in the scenario so you have to

680
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 4: get comfortable being that like in between things.

681
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: And so I mean, you know, like you and I

682
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: being friends.

683
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: When I first met you, Sarah and you had known

684
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 4: each other for a while, and I was like her,

685
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 4: you know, like lose her little sister coming in and

686
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 4: not everyone was very welcoming to me, because listen, everyone

687
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 4: in that crew, you guys were always you were like

688
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 4: at the peak peak of like you like created stylists

689
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 4: who became famous, Like nobody had known even like what

690
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 4: a stylist was before, so you were like killing the game.

691
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: Everyone in that friend.

692
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 4: Circle was like so relevant and so cool, and Sarah

693
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 4: was always so lessly cool.

694
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: And then she started bringing me around these friends and

695
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: I was like so intimidated that I just like shut down.

696
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: I just didn't know like who I was yet, and

697
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 4: so not everyone wanted to be stuck sitting next to

698
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 4: me at.

699
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 3: A dinner table.

700
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 4: And you were always so kind and welcoming and never judgmental.

701
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 4: You always acted like my big sister.

702
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: Like that's always warm you.

703
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 4: But listen, not everyone was like that, but because you

704
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 4: were very authentic to who you were, and even though

705
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 4: you and I had like opposite things that we were

706
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 4: focused on in terms of like I'm showing up an

707
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 4: anthropology and you're like wearing the coolest bad you know,

708
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 4: and you always have like your hair gun, like your sunglasses,

709
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 4: and I'm like, you know, dressed like some like goth

710
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 4: punk kids, but such a memory visual right now, It's okay, yes,

711
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 4: the elevator, and I wouldn't think the elevator I was

712
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: really clustrophobic. But but you never like judge me for

713
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 4: not being how you are, and I never judge you

714
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: for not being how I am because you were really

715
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 4: confident and comfort well in like your choices. You're like,

716
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 4: I'm going to wear a Maxi dress to this big

717
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 4: sunglasses and my bangold and this is who I am,

718
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 4: this is how I feel good. Is like wearing platform

719
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 4: high heels, and I would be like, I don't know

720
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 4: how to feel comfortable that way, So I'm going to

721
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 4: wear my converse and I'm going to.

722
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 3: Wear whatever a bandana in my hair.

723
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 4: And I think that having people around you who just

724
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 4: let you be yourself, like you don't have to have

725
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 4: the same style and the same interest to get along

726
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 4: with someone to respect each other.

727
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: No, In fact, I actually find I actually really find

728
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: that it's better the other way. I think that's why

729
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: siblings work, you know what I mean. I think that's

730
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: why siblings work because you compliment each other. You can't

731
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: be exactly the same. And I always say that, especially

732
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: with girls. It's like my sister and I are total opposites,

733
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: but we were in separable, right. I think if we

734
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: were more alike, I think that would be a problem.

735
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: And so I actually think that's what works the best

736
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: because it's like you do you, I'll do me right,

737
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: and then we just meet in our happy pla together.

738
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: But I but I think, as it.

739
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: Proutains to like you're working life, like how do you feel,

740
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: like do you feel right now that you're exactly where

741
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: you dreamed.

742
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: You could be? Could ever be?

743
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: And like want to be because I'm I'm sort of

744
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: reading all this stuff on like Deadline and I'm like

745
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: seeing Aaron Foster like splashing across all the trades and

746
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, this is the sickest thing ever.

747
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 2: Are you just like pinch me I'm dreaming?

748
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: Are you like this is my place, this is my calling,

749
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: this is my because then I want to talk about

750
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: favorite daughter.

751
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: For a second.

752
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 4: So so like it feels like it's my calling for sure,

753
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 4: and it definitely feels like it's my dream, but it's hard.

754
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 4: I also, it's really hard, and so sometimes it doesn't

755
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 4: come naturally to me, and then other times it does,

756
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 4: and I go, oh, I'm really made to do this.

757
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 4: And you know, there are times I'm not as being

758
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 4: not it doesn't come as naturally to me, and I go, fuck,

759
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 4: am I making a mistake?

760
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: Or am I a fraud?

761
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 4: I'm not really sure to be doing this, but I

762
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 4: think it's also I'm leave room for it to not

763
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: work out too Like I am in this place where

764
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: I have this amazing opportunity with this TV show that

765
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 4: I'm making at Netflix, and Kristen Bell playing me.

766
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: It's like she's such an a list star and it

767
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: feels so cool. But then it's like, obviously I don't

768
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: want this to happen, but what if it fails?

769
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 4: Not everything is a hit, and what if it does

770
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 4: really well but people make fun of it or don't

771
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,959
Speaker 4: think it's funny or who knows, like anything could happen,

772
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 4: And so you're opening it.

773
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 3: Up like this is I'm not farm.

774
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: People are gonna judge.

775
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 3: You for sure.

776
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 4: Attach my happiness to its success because I I can

777
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 4: only control so much of it, So I'm trying to

778
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 4: enjoy this part of it where I'm actually in the

779
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 4: position where I get to make the show and enjoy

780
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 4: this process and love this process and do the best

781
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 4: thing that the best that I can. But then also, like,

782
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 4: this is going to be a really important experience regardless

783
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 4: of the outcome. Sure, and I accept that such a virgo,

784
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 4: such a vergo, I'm just protecting myself.

785
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: No, no, by the way, one hundred percent, I speak

786
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 2: the same language.

787
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: I always set myself up for total failure and disaster

788
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: just so I'm prepared.

789
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: Okay. And then so how does this all?

790
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: Because you know, you obviously still do a lot of

791
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: like Aaron Foster staff right where it's like I'm I'm

792
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: the talent so to speak. I hate that word, but

793
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: like still it's sort of like you still do that,

794
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: which I think you're equally as great at and it's

795
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: fun because you get to sort of like partner with

796
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: different brands and things like that. But let's talk about

797
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: Favorite Daughter for a second, because Favorite Daughter obviously was

798
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: born out of your deep.

799
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: Love for fashion.

800
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: No, it was, it was born out of the fact

801
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: that you guys wanted to make comfy, cozy, cute, functional

802
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: clothes and obviously, favorite Daughter could not be a more

803
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: brilliant tag line ever, brand name ever, because you know,

804
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: as a daughter of two, I get I'm a favorite,

805
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: But it's taken off sort of like a rocket. I'm

806
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: sure on the inside it sort of feels like that

807
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: and sort of doesn't because it's so much freaking work.

808
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: But it's nice because all of you are involved.

809
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: You, Sarah, Jordan, Jordan for those of you that don't know,

810
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: Jordan is the I don't want to say secret sister,

811
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: because I don't think she's a secret at all. And

812
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: she's brilliantly talented. She's a stylistic, creative director all the things,

813
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: and the baby and the baby of the family.

814
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: But like, how is it to work with your sisters?

815
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: Obviously you've been working with Sarah for a while, but like,

816
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: how is it to do this and what's your kind

817
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: of role in it?

818
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: And are you kind of stepping back a little as

819
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: you do your writing.

820
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, working at family is hard. Sarah, I

821
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 4: fight a lot, We disagree all the time. We have

822
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: different ideas of how to put an outfit.

823
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: Together or in a fitting.

824
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: We're always fighting, but didn't you do that anyway before

825
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: you started the brand.

826
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, we always fought before, of course, but it's still

827
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 4: cool to be able to do this with your sister,

828
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 4: you know. It's it's cool that when we travel and

829
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 4: prepare daughter, we go a place on an airplane together

830
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: at six am and not by yourself.

831
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: You know, it's nice.

832
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 4: And it's so good having Jordan involved because she's so

833
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 4: talented and I'm just as close to Jordan, and she

834
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: lives in New York, so we don't you know, the

835
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 4: fact that Sarah and I've always worked together, it's so

836
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 4: fun that we can do that now with Jordan and Sarah.

837
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 3: And I never like set out to make a clothing brand.

838
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: I mean, as you know, that was like the farthest

839
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 3: thing that we would be sinking.

840
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: Farthest, literally farthest like.

841
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 3: That so far.

842
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: But that's that's how life is.

843
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think, you know, it ended up being

844
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 4: that we were so favorite. Daughter ended up becoming the

845
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 4: kind of thing that was perfect for us because it

846
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 4: really is a brand for a girl who is not

847
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 4: comfortable spending twelve hundred dollars on a pair of pants.

848
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: From the Row.

849
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: She's not doing that, but she still wants to wear

850
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 4: like really good, well tailored, put together clothes, but she

851
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 4: doesn't want to spend that much money on it. And

852
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 4: so you know, there's a girl who doesn't want to

853
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 4: shop fast fashion at Zara, and she doesn't she can't

854
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 4: shop with the Row, So where she going.

855
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: There's a handful of brands in that middle area. And

856
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: that's really what we focused on, is like what would

857
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: we buy? What do we want our in our closet?

858
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 4: What are those staples that we can have that aren't

859
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 4: like trend heavy, It will last a while, be good quality,

860
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 4: and still.

861
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: Be like a cool thing to wear it to a

862
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 3: girl's dinner. And so our girl is really supposed to be.

863
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: Us right, And I think it is.

864
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I think people are just living for favorite daughter.

865
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: I mean I'm obsessed with it.

866
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: I love it. I love wearing it.

867
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: So I love that you love it. I do.

868
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: I love it. It's so good.

869
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: It's so good because I really do know that you

870
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: guys are actually all so like touching every piece.

871
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: I mean I know that I see that, and I

872
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: would know if you weren't.

873
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but it is ironic and I think it's

874
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: just funny how like life works, because it kind of

875
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: just pulled you in. And I think started with like

876
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: cute sweats, and I think the fact that you guys

877
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: do that still.

878
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: One of the producers on this show is like, oh

879
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: my god, I just got a favorite daughter had him

880
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 2: so obsessed.

881
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I realized it was Aaron.

882
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: I just love favorite daughter, which is the dream.

883
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's exactly what you want. I don't want

884
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: to us because there's a lot of.

885
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 4: Pressure for us to be posting things to get them

886
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 4: to sell, and you know, not everybody wants to watch

887
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 4: a promotional thing on her Instagram every day, and so

888
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 4: finding that balance, like we wanted to be able to

889
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 4: have life of its own, and there's I mean, that

890
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 4: was a Nashville one time, like a year ago, and

891
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 4: Simon was like, I think the girls were your daughter

892
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 4: jeans and so I looked and I was like, oh,

893
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: I think they are.

894
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: So I go up and I was like, Hi, where'd

895
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: you get those jeans? And she looked at me. She's

896
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: like revolve and like arrive me and walked away and

897
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: I was like okay, And I didn't tell her that

898
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: it was my brand. I was honestly so flattered that

899
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 3: she had no idea who I was.

900
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,479
Speaker 2: She just bout a yes, that's the truth.

901
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: No, you absolutely want people in the wild to buy it.

902
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: Seeing it in the wild is the greatest thing ever,

903
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, like it really is someone who

904
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: doesn't know you, who you didn't like, influence to buy.

905
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: Just like no, I love as in buying them. Yeah, okay,

906
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: So now let's let's talk about oversubscribed.

907
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: So you guys have started to I guess it started

908
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: with Bumble, probably right when you got involved with Bumble

909
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: and started to just kind of put your I guess

910
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: selves into other brands, right and start to advise mentor

911
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: and things like that.

912
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: And then so tell me sort of a little bit about.

913
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: That process, because like what attracted you to like sort

914
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: of investing in advising and things like that.

915
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was a really long slow path there,

916
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 4: because in twenty seventeen, we were hired to be on

917
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 4: a panel with Witny Wolf. We'd never met her before,

918
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 4: and we went to New York and we just spoke

919
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: on a panel with her. I mean, I don't remember

920
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 4: what we talked about, like women in business, something. I

921
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 4: was like so drunk on rose.

922
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: I actually remember that.

923
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 2: I remember when you do Yeah, I do, I remember

924
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 2: when you did that panel.

925
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 3: It was really fun.

926
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 4: I drank a lot before Whitney and she's the best,

927
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 4: and so we just had this really great vibe with her,

928
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 4: and she was sort of launching these new arms of

929
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 4: the business bumble BFF and bumble biz, and she just

930
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 4: had this outside the box idea, was like, would you

931
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 4: guys want to work for me? Like come to Austin, Texas,

932
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 4: let's figure something out. And we thought, I mean, that's crazy,

933
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 4: but what a great opportunity. You know, the company at

934
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 4: that point had like five hundred no, let me see,

935
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 4: it was like worth five hundred million dollars.

936
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm trying to think about what my numbers are.

937
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 4: It was like definitely a very known thing, but was

938
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 4: still sort of like in that like upward trajectory. And

939
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 4: we couldn't believe this opportunity that we had to work

940
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 4: with Whitney and also have equity and a tech company

941
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 4: like that had never happened to us before. So we

942
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 4: said yes, even though we didn't have any idea what

943
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 4: it entailed, and we really really focused on it for

944
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: a couple of years, and that was really a primary

945
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 4: focus for us. And it is a little bit when

946
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 4: my writing started taking a back seat to more business opportunities,

947
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 4: and that was going to take me on a path

948
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 4: that you know, was going to also cause some difficulty

949
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 4: in my identity because I'm figuring, wait a second, I'm

950
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 4: not writing like you know, where I'm supposed to be going.

951
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: But but the opportunity was so great, and so we

952
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: had such a good time.

953
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 4: We learned so much from Winny and from that process,

954
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: and then we got brought into this company, the mirror

955
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 4: the workout Mere, and had empuity in that company. And

956
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 4: so when both of them had these like noisy exits

957
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 4: and acquisitions, it put us in this position where we

958
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 4: were able to look at a lot of great deals

959
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 4: and a lot of companies coming to us wanting us

960
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 4: to invest in their brands. And you know, we're we're

961
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: not comfortable writing like hundreds and hundreds of thousands of

962
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: dollars chests on our own. So the next logical step

963
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 4: was to raise a venture firm and take investors and

964
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 4: then invest through that. And so that's really where it started.

965
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: From, isn't it so much? Fun.

966
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 3: I love it. Yeah, it is. I love scary. It's

967
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: like scary with other people's money, but it.

968
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: Is, it is. But it's also fun to have more

969
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: people at the table, and you know, it's kind of

970
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: definitely my favorite part of what we do now is

971
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: the fun because it's just it's nice to have your

972
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: hands in a lot of things, you know, and just

973
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: and talk to other people and learn from other companies

974
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: and like, I don't know, I love the whole thing.

975
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: Okay, So what is next in I don't believe.

976
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: In overplanning anything, as I'm sure you don't either, but

977
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: like I feel like right now, in this peaceful place

978
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: that you are, granted, there's a writer strikes you have

979
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: a little more peace than usual. Yeah, but like what's

980
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: putting you to sleep and waking you up right now?

981
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: Like do you think about like, okay, next this or

982
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: I just want to be present in this and just

983
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: go really deep in what I'm doing and be super happy.

984
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: It's like, what's the dream right now? If there is any?

985
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm just really trying to be at

986
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 4: peace with where I'm at. And you know, obviously, you know,

987
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 4: I really want to be a mom and so that's

988
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 4: really like my next step. So you know, I've been

989
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: trying for a few years and it's just been kind

990
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 4: of really challenging us. And so that's that's kind of

991
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 4: like my where my energy goes is like how do

992
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: I make that happen and what that looks like?

993
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and actually I think I think sharing that

994
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: too is incredibly helpful, probably for you and also for

995
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: a lot of women who are I would say at

996
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: this point, the majority of women in my life are

997
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: going through the same not the same because no one

998
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: says the same, but it's a journey and not an

999
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: easy one.

1000
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 4: So yeah, and I think it's weird as a woman

1001
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 4: to you know, not be It's not like the popular

1002
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: thing that women would naturally say is like that's their focus,

1003
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 4: Like I want to be a mom, you know, because

1004
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 4: we're so career focused, and the truth is.

1005
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: Like that is what I want though, and that's okay.

1006
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 2: I just think that's beautiful.

1007
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: No, by the way, it's not an either or I

1008
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: mean that said Serena Williams came out and said something

1009
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: very clear, but that's also after she won said well

1010
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: she was she made a very valid point because I

1011
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: think she's forty two now and pregnant with her second child.

1012
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: And what she came out and said is I'm stopping

1013
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: after this. I think it was Wimbledon last year, because

1014
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to have another child. And what's sad about

1015
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: that is that if I was a man, I wouldn't

1016
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: have to do this right now because my wife would

1017
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: be home having the child and I could keep playing, right.

1018
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: But she's like, but that's a choice that I want

1019
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: to make, right, And I think, I'm like, look, okay,

1020
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: let's look at Serena. I think she's one what seventy

1021
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: five thousand Wimbledon's and tournaments. But at the same time,

1022
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: I do know one thing is for sure is that

1023
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: every everyone's journey to become a mom is different, and

1024
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: to be honest, very few are easy. And I think,

1025
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I mean, that's a really cool choice.

1026
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: That's a really cool thing to focus on. And as

1027
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: someone who did it very late in the game, yeah,

1028
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: I think, no matter how you get there, you get there, right.

1029
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's right.

1030
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 4: And I think like the gift of getting older sort

1031
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 4: of accepting the timeline that you're on and accepting like

1032
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 4: the truth of whatever your reality is, and so you know,

1033
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: you can kick and scream and like not want to

1034
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 4: get older and not want to have kids a certain

1035
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: way or start a family a certain way, or have

1036
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 4: your career a certain way, and like, but.

1037
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: You know, you also just accept the truth and like

1038
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: you can't have you you kind of have to do

1039
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: I think, I think, I really think you kind of

1040
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: have to because you know, very dear friend of mine said,

1041
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: she said something that really changed you know, when someone

1042
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: just says something that's seemingly so simple and somehow it

1043
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: changes you. A very happy friend of mine, mother of

1044
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: four and very happily married, very nomadic life. And I said,

1045
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: you have any regrets? And she said why? Why would

1046
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: I have regrets? And I said, what do you mean?

1047
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: She said, it's a waste of time And I said

1048
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: what do you mean? She said, every second I would

1049
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: waste on regretting something is a waste of the energy

1050
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: that I'm spending now because I can't change it.

1051
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: I can't, I can't. You can't go back, and you

1052
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: literally can't go back. You literally can't go back.

1053
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: And I'm literally She's like, that's toxic to me, and

1054
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: I was like, shit, She's totally right.

1055
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: Why the hell do I think, Like, I.

1056
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: Know, you know, so we do.

1057
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: Regret is just torture, regrol is And I think, Aaron,

1058
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: here's the thing where everyone sits looking at you or

1059
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: anybody else, it always is a different picture than how

1060
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: we all feel, right, we all know that that's just

1061
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: who we are, that's just how life is. But at

1062
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: the same time, I feel like your journey may have

1063
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: been a little bit later and getting married or whatever,

1064
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: but ultimately, like you.

1065
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 2: Don't know what could have been.

1066
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: Okay, great, you could have goten married and had kids

1067
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: at twenty five, and god knows what would have happened.

1068
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: Right now, you have all your shit together, all your

1069
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: shit's in a row, you're madly in love, you're happily

1070
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: married and all the things, and you're going to have

1071
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: a beautiful family and everything's going to be I don't

1072
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: want to say like everything's going to be perfect, but

1073
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: like it's going to be yours.

1074
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, And I really couldn't imagine it happening in

1075
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 3: any other way.

1076
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 4: And that's why things like, yeah, I think when you're

1077
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 4: younger and you are questioning like why things aren't happening

1078
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 4: for you, you have to sort of have faith that

1079
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 4: there's a man that's working in your favor even if

1080
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 4: you don't think there are. Because the amal relationships that

1081
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: I like prayed to the God that I didn't even

1082
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 4: believe in, like please let this be the one, Like

1083
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 4: please let me.

1084
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 3: End up with this person. I'll kill myself if I'm

1085
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 3: not with them, and then like God.

1086
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 4: Didn't give it to me, and I was like, God, fuck,

1087
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 4: And I look back, I'm like, oh my God, if

1088
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 4: I had gotten what I wanted, can.

1089
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: You imagine I would be fucked right?

1090
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 2: It's in that basic God.

1091
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 3: I wasn't given what I want.

1092
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: I know, I know.

1093
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: I'm telling you just don't even know your own potential.

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Speaker 2: There's a plan, babe that you don't know about.

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Speaker 1: There's a whole plan happening that you just don't even

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Speaker 1: know about, but you're living it, and I love you madly.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy for your success, honestly, And to me,

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Speaker 1: you've never been the You've never been the underdog or

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Speaker 1: the black sheep that you consistently felt like. To me,

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Speaker 1: you've just been fucking badass eron and I just knew

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Speaker 1: what you were keeping love. None of this, quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: surprises me not to sound like you're a neurotic Jewish mom,

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Speaker 1: but like, none of this shocks me at all.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just excited to continue to watch you do it.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, Thanks Rachel, thanks for always being such a good friend.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love you madly. Bye Rad, Bye Babes,

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Speaker 2: Bye Katie. All right, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Each week, I'm going to finish the show with something

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Speaker 1: called ask Rachel. So let's get right into it and

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Speaker 1: kick off with a very funny question, very ironic question

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Speaker 1: because my team sort of makes fun of me all

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Speaker 1: the time. They call me a vampire. And this question

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Speaker 1: is how many hours a night do you sleep? And

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Speaker 1: the funny thing about that is it's a very loaded question.

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Speaker 1: You know, I have a work husband. His name is

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00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: Matt Walker, and when he first started working with us,

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Speaker 1: he actually texted me and he said, I have a question.

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00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: He said, do you actually sleep? I'm just trying or

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00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 2: do you just nap?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm trying to figure out because you texted me

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Speaker 1: at two am with a work question, then you responded

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Speaker 1: at four thirty, and then you texted me a new

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Speaker 1: question at six, and then that same night you texted

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Speaker 1: me again at like one He's like, so, I'm just wondering,

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Speaker 1: are they like naps or do you sleep consecutive hours?

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because I never really thought about it,

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Speaker 1: to be honest, because I've lived this like insane life

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Speaker 1: as a stylist and really just someone who my whole

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Speaker 1: life really just was never a big sleeper, always the

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Speaker 1: first one to wake up on sleepovers, always the one

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Speaker 1: waiting for everybody to get up, always being up hours.

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Speaker 1: In college, I would still wake up at six seven

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Speaker 1: in the morning after a night out when everyone slept

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Speaker 1: till two three in the afternoon. My Inner mo team

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Speaker 1: likes to joke that I sleep literally like a vampire,

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Speaker 1: like or that I just don't because I wake up

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Speaker 1: with like a full face of makeup or I makeup

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00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: and like my hair probably has not moved all that much.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's because I don't know. I feel

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Speaker 1: like my brain doesn't really shut down. But I do

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Speaker 1: think I'm definitely one of those people that can live

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Speaker 1: on less sleep than most. I think to properly answer

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Speaker 1: the question, I would say between four and five hours

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Speaker 1: a night. I don't think eight hours is in my

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Speaker 1: history of sleeping. Ever, maybe when I get to Europe

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Speaker 1: and I'm super jet lagged, and you know, black out

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Speaker 1: the room and you don't know what time it is.

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Speaker 2: But I hate to say that.

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Speaker 1: I think my eldest son, Sky may have inherited that

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Speaker 1: blessing and curse of not needing as much sleep. So

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Speaker 1: I would say that a big part of my life.

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00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: Probably I run on adrenaline and excitement for what I do.

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Speaker 1: But I would say I definitely am not an eight

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Speaker 1: to ten hour a night sleeper, have never been, probably

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Speaker 1: will never be.

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Speaker 1: details on this exclusive offer. Thank you so much to

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Speaker 1: Aarin for coming on the podcast. I am so incredibly

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Speaker 1: proud of her. I actually really love watching her win

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Speaker 1: I really love people work hard that don't do things conventionally,

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Speaker 1: don't really follow societal norms.

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Speaker 2: Just because that's what they're supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she's launching an incredible new show on Netflix,

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Speaker 1: she's crushing it with favorite daughter their clothing line, and

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Speaker 1: just launched a new venture capitalist firm called Oversubscribed. Also,

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Speaker 1: she found her Prince Charming, who happens to be one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite guys, Simon Tech. So I'm in tich Man.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't say it's so funny we call people by

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Speaker 1: their Instagram names. Anyway, what else could Aaron do? I

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Speaker 1: think she's living her dreams and I loved this episode.

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Speaker 1: So if you want more at Climbing and Heell's content,

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Speaker 1: follow me on at Rachezo and at Cleming and Hills

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Speaker 1: Pod on Instagram for more updates on upcoming guests, episodes,

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Speaker 1: and all things Cure a tour and I'll see you

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Speaker 1: all next week.

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Speaker 3: Come on,