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Speaker 1: welcome in to the Wednesday Morning Podcast. My buddy Ion Russillo.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ever been on my podcast.

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Speaker 1: I've been on his, and apparently he told me set records.

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Speaker 1: Coward Podcast that I'm excited. A couple of things I

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Speaker 1: want to address. Sometimes there's something going on in my industry,

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Speaker 1: it or let you kind of behind the curtain. There's

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Speaker 1: something going on called the Netflix effect. So we all

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Speaker 1: have favorite sports. I'm more of a football guy than

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Speaker 1: got more activity, better on television. Blah blah blah, aada, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 1: But when Anyboddy says, you know, these NBA ratings are down,

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Speaker 1: here's the important distinction. Hockey, Baseball, MLS, NBA ratings are

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Speaker 1: all down over the last five years. Monday through Friday,

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Speaker 1: and it's called the Netflix effect. Networks and leagues put

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Speaker 1: their best games on Saturday and Sunday. Right Here's where

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Speaker 1: the ratings aren't going down. NFL major college football games

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Speaker 1: What the American viewer has been doing over the last

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Speaker 1: Netflix or Hulu or Amazon Prime. But sports on the weekends,

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Speaker 1: So when people, you know, pick on the NBA, the

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Speaker 1: do like the baseball playoffs if the right teams are in.

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Speaker 1: But you know, if somebody picks on any league, the

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Speaker 1: enjoy the seventy fifth anniversary weekend for the NBA. People

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Speaker 1: do often romanticize the past. In the NBA, I think

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Speaker 1: he's okay in my book. You know what is that?

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00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: I do always think that I've got to be fair,

423
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 1: like I will admit I think Aaron Rodgers is incredibly needy.

424
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 1: He's just not my kind of guy at all. I mean,

425
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: I've broken off friendships because guys were high maintenance. Two

426
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: things I break off a friendship you're a shitty tipper

427
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: or your high maintenance. I don't know about his tipping,

428
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: but he is so high maintenance. By the way, let

429
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: me segue to you, let me pivot to you. You

430
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 1: got to watch out for this because when you're a

431
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: good looking guy, you get close to forty and you've

432
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: never been married, no kids. Yeah, you know what happens

433
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: is you start you have a high IQ. You got

434
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: to maintain your high IQ because what happens is I

435
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: mean I talked about this in the intro. If I

436
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: went to it sounds like Vince Vaughan right now, that story,

437
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: This is no more than v This is McConaughey, a

438
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: director's cut out take from Wolf of Wall Street when

439
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: he's talking at DiCaprio. Let's go ahead. If I went

440
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: to Anne and said, hey, babe, I'm gonna take a

441
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: twelve day cleans. You got the kids, you got the house,

442
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: you got the dogs, I'll see him like two thursdays.

443
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: She would. She would literally look at me and say,

444
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: get out, go stay at a hotel. But when you're forty,

445
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: no kids, it's the Oberman thing. It's I love Bill Maher,

446
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: but it's like you become the center of your universe.

447
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: Kids humble you. Relationships humble you, Animals humble you. I'm

448
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: cleaning shit out of my yard four times a day

449
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: with my dogs, and so you've got to be careful

450
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: at Rosilo because your life right now is working out,

451
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: crushing a podcast and eating steaks. You've got to be careful.

452
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: It's a fair observation. I would. I would admit, you know,

453
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: when people try to tell me, like, hey, kids completely

454
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: round you out. It's it's not that they make you

455
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: happy all the time. It's that they bring you to

456
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: even right, they bring you to even whether it's their

457
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: support and the younger age is unconditional love or their

458
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: hatred for you as they grow older. And then it

459
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: kind of just makes you go, all right, whatever issues

460
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 1: I have to deal with, I gotta try to get

461
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: my fourteen year old to stop hating me. I understand

462
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: these things. I do understand the things without understanding it,

463
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: which is what I try to explain to people. But

464
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: then I don't know, people never want to hear it.

465
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: They never want to hear from somebody that's older and

466
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: doesn't have any kids. And then I'll just think, like, hey,

467
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 1: you do realize there's like seven billion of us, Like

468
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that have had kids. So yeah,

469
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: like you know, see you're pushing back a little bit.

470
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: You know. It didn't Anne essentially do that to you though.

471
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: Oh she broke up with me seven times. I mean seriously, yeah, right, No,

472
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm just meaning like if you said, hey, I'm taking

473
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: off for a couple of weeks, she kind of moved Yeah.

474
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: I mean listen, I mean, Anne was it was. It

475
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: was really funny for two people that were in love.

476
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: It was we did it. We had a lot of conflict.

477
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: I mean it was. I'm not talking back in the day.

478
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get into your business. No, I'm

479
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: finally done something right. But she just doesn't deal with

480
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: my You know, she's not going to deal with anything.

481
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: Like if I throw stuff at her, she just throws

482
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: her right back. But see, this is what I need.

483
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: I need somebody who likes me but not so much

484
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: they want to see me everything that's right, because that's

485
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: what I would need in my life. And that's why

486
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: I think what you have is perfect. Man. So who's

487
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: your I don't want to well, I am going to

488
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: get personal. So are you dating right now? You're not

489
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: getting this on? No, you're not dating, Oh Jesus. So

490
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: you're just out there throwing fastballs and seeing who can catch.

491
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,239
Speaker 1: That's dangerous, Jesus. You're just throwing out that you got

492
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: thirty pound test line, you got bait on there. You're

493
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: throwing it out there and just whatever shark grabs it,

494
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: you're reeling home. I don't know if that's I finished

495
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: a feature script the other day, so I was very

496
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: excited about that. I'm dating my work Colin. Oh God,

497
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: that sounds awful. It really does. I'm in a relationship

498
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: with art. Oh good, hell you sounded. I was trying

499
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: to make an Aaron Rodgers. I was gonna say, so

500
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: let's let's let's pivot to that. So here's how I

501
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: read the Instagram. There's a lot of hearts. It felt

502
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: like Monday. I didn't make it a couple of lines.

503
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: I couldn't do that. It had an onion feel to it.

504
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: I was like, Aaron, honestly, stop sipping tequila, like scale back,

505
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: when you start drinking, you start kind of being. You

506
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: either get snarky or sweet. He got I mean, he

507
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: went off a little bit right like. I read it

508
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is a Hallmark card, man,

509
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: this is one of those bad, cheesy posters you buy

510
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: at Hallmark. You know, like wine is good for the soul,

511
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: get drawn on it. It's like, now I just want

512
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: to get drunk without the soul. I don't need the soul. Yeah,

513
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't want Yeah, I don't want to soul. I

514
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: just want to feel a little loose. I'll always I'm

515
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: always amazed, just in general of the pursuit. I just

516
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: don't have that in me. I don't know what that is.

517
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just the efficiency. Maybe it's a shoal peer

518
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: where when I'll hear about these people that will be like, oh,

519
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: you know, for a year or so, I turned him down.

520
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, Like if I don't get a text

521
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: back that has some sort of emotion to it, I'm like,

522
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm out. You know, So he was he was saying,

523
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: it's it's like you'd let me chase. I still would

524
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: like to know, like how hard of a cell was it?

525
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: Multiple MVP starting quarterback in the NFL. I can't imagine.

526
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: It was just like I don't know, I'm not I

527
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: don't see it. Yeah, you know I have. Are we

528
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: being too personal about this? I guess I don't know.

529
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to be unfair here. No, we're not

530
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: being unfair. I mean, listen, I just think this started

531
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: with Aaron's a lot of work. It's like, you're not

532
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: You're not high maintenance at all. Like I'll call you

533
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: into it, Hey, dude, stakes tonight on me. You're like, no,

534
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: it's on me. Let's do it tomorrow. Literally we'll talk

535
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: for a minute. You are the lowest maintenance guy. But

536
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: there are things with Aaron. I'm like, and I said

537
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: this in the preamble to you, I said, you know,

538
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: we doc Brady because of his age, and Garoppolo because

539
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: of his health, and Wentz because of his risk factor. Ryan.

540
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: If I'm a general manager, Aaron's a lot of work.

541
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: He's a lot of work for the staff. He's a

542
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: lot of work for the front office. I'm not giving

543
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: up four firsts for him. I think you have to.

544
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm serious about this, Like we doc quarterbacks

545
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: based on age and health, and Aaron, to me, is

546
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: not as valuable as Matt Stafford on the open market.

547
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: Stafford is like a total adult, low maintenance, great in

548
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: the fourth Like I feel like with Matt, he just

549
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: does his shit, goes home to his wife and kids,

550
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: and I don't worry about him. Aaron's gotten to the

551
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 1: point where it's like, man, it's a little like Durant.

552
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: You've got to walk on eggshells a lot with him. Right. Well,

553
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: first of all, I'm I'm very pro Durant, even though

554
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: I think we could talk about any one of our

555
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: single favorite athletes ever, and if we wanted to make

556
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: a negative argument about him or anti argument, you know,

557
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: we do this for a living. I could come up

558
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: with some stuff, but I just don't even like I've

559
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: almost made a rule recently. It's if I like, like

560
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: ninety percent, yet I don't want to spend time on

561
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: pointing out the ten percent all the time. You and

562
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: I have disagreed about Rogers in the past. I think

563
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: you were harder on him than I was. I think

564
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: I've defended him throughout his entire career. I've loved watching

565
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: him play. You know, he's going to go down as

566
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: one of the all time greats as far as his ability.

567
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: His resume is not going to be close to some

568
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: of the other top guys. But I started to come

569
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: to your side of the argument a little bit through

570
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: this last season because I kept thinking, look, if you

571
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: need to be more specific about what is so bad,

572
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: that's what you said about. Yeah, yeah, Like if you're

573
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: mad about Jordan Love, I get it. I also think

574
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: Brady should have been pissed about Garoppolo or the time

575
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: they took Kevin O'Connell. I think in the third round

576
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: do you remember that, Well, he's now a head coach

577
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: of the Vikings. You don't remember his playing career. It

578
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: was a total whiff. You're like, why do you have

579
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: to get cute with this shit, and so I felt

580
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: like with Rogers, mean, you need to convince me that

581
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: you're basically Matthew Stafford. Like imagine, like I'm looking at him, going,

582
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: you guys have a really good roster. No one's ever

583
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: had a problem with this front office until you've pointed

584
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: out they've actually spent in free agency with this new

585
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: regime much more they did with Ted Thompson. And yet

586
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: they've always put this together. And if I really wanted

587
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: to get a Roger's case, you start pointing to some

588
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: of these home playoff losses and I'm not even going

589
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: there with it. So I didn't feel like he was

590
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: convincing enough for me to believe in all the drama,

591
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: which would then lead towards how high maintenance is this

592
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: guy now? To say is he worth it? Think about

593
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: some of these franchises that go easily two decades before

594
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: they have any answer at the position. If you know

595
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: you can bring him in even at his age, he's

596
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: still worth it. It actually kind of mirrors your Michael

597
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: Porter Jr. Point that we didn't really finish. I heard stuff.

598
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: I also heard the most important thing that he was

599
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: the biggest medical red flag teams that had seen in

600
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: ten plus years. But no one cares about the tow truck.

601
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: No one cares about some of his political No one

602
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: cares about that stuff if he's healthy and scoring twenty

603
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: game And I'm not saying no one, but you understand

604
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: in the scheme of what we do when talking sports,

605
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: if you're productive, those things don't matter as much. And

606
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: for Rogers he still as productive as anyone playing the position.

607
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: Although I agree like this has taken a turn to

608
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: last year plus where I've thought, how are you this

609
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: mad when the team has been this good? Right, Like

610
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: they're not going four and twelve every year. With sports

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Speaker 1: so I threw something out today. You've heard about this

622
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: Havana syndrome in Cuba. We send diplomats to Cuba, they

623
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: go to this hotel, they come back, they're all sick.

624
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: Nobody knows what it is. They called the Havannah syndrome.

625
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: And I said, Brett Favan Aaron Rodgers are completely different people.

626
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: I mean, Southerner, no cow, almost a hippie. They've become

627
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: the same person. Why And I called the Green Bay

628
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: Packer quarterback syndrome. So the organization the Super Bowl trophies

629
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: named after your coach. It's called Titletown. You will win

630
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: the division because you've always been almost always the best

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Speaker 1: run organization. So there is this unique pressure. But over

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Speaker 1: the last twenty to twenty five years, not having an

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Speaker 1: owner is an issue. I mean, Stan Cronky's on the phone.

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Speaker 1: That's why you get Matt Stafford because Cronky's on the

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Speaker 1: tarmac and mcvaan less sneed. Cronky told me this. He's

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Speaker 1: about ready to take off and they're like, we've got

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Speaker 1: to make a decision now. And he's on the tarmac

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Speaker 1: at Lax and his gholst He's like, Okay, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't do that with the Packers. Secondly, they don't

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Speaker 1: get free agents Obj von Miller. That's really important to

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Speaker 1: get great talent. So the Green Bay Packers syndrome is

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Speaker 1: you have this Lombardi Trophy, titletown pressure, you dominate the division,

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Speaker 1: and then you fail in the playoffs and you get

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Speaker 1: a lot of heat and every March, April, May June

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Speaker 1: you get kind of restless because you're continually disappointing people

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Speaker 1: when the truth is it's not easy. I think it's

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Speaker 1: almost essential to have a strong willed owner and free

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Speaker 1: agent viability. It's not built twin titles now. And so

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Speaker 1: I think Farvin Rogers, this is if Jordan's love was

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Speaker 1: great in ten years, this is what he would deal with.

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Speaker 1: And so, you know, it's kind of my takeaway. I

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Speaker 1: think it is hard to be farven Ry jurors in

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Speaker 1: that town and that team. I think it's so unique

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Speaker 1: to professional sports. There's nothing else really like it. Your take,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you right or wrong on it,

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Speaker 1: because why do they win ten years ago? You know?

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Speaker 1: Like I think there are times in sports I can

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Speaker 1: remember stuff that's specific to me. I remember forever. All

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Speaker 1: the reasons the Red Sox haven't won in eight decades,

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Speaker 1: it is because of the Monster. You know, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: can't get left handers there, it's impossible. And then they

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Speaker 1: win for a World series and you're like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: well maybe maybe you know, like what happened? You're a

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Speaker 1: point to la Hey, they can go get a OBJ,

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Speaker 1: they can bring in von Miller, Jalen Ramsey wanted to

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Speaker 1: be here, all of these different things. Well shouldn't they win?

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Speaker 1: More than I love the camp though, of Farvan Rogers

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Speaker 1: becoming very similar despite completely different backgrounds. I love that

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Speaker 1: because far I mean, think how selfish you have to

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Speaker 1: be to be far Off towards the end of your career,

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Speaker 1: to basically retire four times, come back okay, and then

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Speaker 1: far act like he was done wrong. He went to

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Speaker 1: play for the Jets just so he could play with

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Speaker 1: the Vikings to get back at him. I kind of

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Speaker 1: respect the pettiness and the grudge holding. As an all

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Speaker 1: time grudge holder, I respected that part of it. That's

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Speaker 1: the part well I wouldn't say, it's the inability to win,

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Speaker 1: and that may not be what you're doing. Maybe because

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Speaker 1: there is this void that it leads to you thinking

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Speaker 1: you're more important and more powerful at that position, especially

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Speaker 1: when we're talking about back to back all timers here, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody's gonna have a top ten

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Speaker 1: list at all time in the position without both of

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Speaker 1: those guys. I think that actually be a big mistake.

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Speaker 1: So maybe that's what it is, that you become this

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Speaker 1: powerful figure that fills this void that only exists in

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Speaker 1: Green Bay. Yeah, so that's the part I would agree

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Speaker 1: with you on. I just don't know. Sometimes I don't

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Speaker 1: love playing the results of like, hey, this team won,

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Speaker 1: So now let's go backwards and say why all these

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Speaker 1: reasons are smart? Like the rams are another perfect example,

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Speaker 1: Like now everybody just draft pick suck. But I think

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Speaker 1: that's a bit extreme. Okay, Now if you want to

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Speaker 1: tell me a we want to start trading picks into

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Speaker 1: twenties all the time. Well, now, now I might be

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Speaker 1: listening to you, you know, probably ones something. So I'm

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Speaker 1: with you on the personality part of it. And look,

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Speaker 1: I don't spend any time out there. It's one of

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Speaker 1: the few places I haven't been. I haven't spent a

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Speaker 1: ton of time, But it is crazy that you've had

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Speaker 1: back to back. Guys think so highly of themselves they

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Speaker 1: basically hold their franchises hostage. And that's what we've had. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's interesting is the point you made I

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Speaker 1: also used on the air, but I didn't use it

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Speaker 1: in art discussion five minutes ago, which is, with no owner,

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Speaker 1: you are the most powerful person. You're much more powerful.

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Speaker 1: You know, It's like what's happened to college basketball and

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Speaker 1: football coaches. You're the highest paid state employee with no owner.

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Speaker 1: Aaron is by far and away the richest most powerful

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Speaker 1: person in the organization. I mean, Matt Stafford, his career

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Speaker 1: earnings are less than Stan Cronkie will make you know

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Speaker 1: over a weekend between his ownership of his teams, like

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Speaker 1: and you you know, is as powerful as Belichick is,

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Speaker 1: Bob Kraft is like Trade Garoppolo. Okay, like you do

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Speaker 1: far An Aaron. One of the few times I believe

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Speaker 1: too in the history of this relationship in New England

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Speaker 1: twenty years now, where for Craft got his way because

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Speaker 1: of Tom So No, I'm agreeing with you. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying that that's how rare that was though in that

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Speaker 1: in that time, I don't think that's happened very often,

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Speaker 1: with those two the volume