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Speaker 1: I am your host, Brian Baumgartner, and as you just heard,

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Speaker 1: I am sitting down today with the comedic genius that

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Speaker 1: He's a golfer. Rob Wriggle. Everyone, Bubble and Squeak. I

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Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy delirious. I just thought that was the best

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00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 1: stand up I've ever seen. And his style was storytelling.

425
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: He was a great storyteller. He would tell the story,

426
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: he'd played the characters in the story. He would you know, great,

427
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 1: he would use sound effects. He he was the most

428
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: dynamic storyteller. I remember being enthralled with him. So I thought,

429
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: that's the kind of stand up I want to do. Well.

430
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: Not at the comic strip Live, my friend. That's not

431
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 1: what they teach. They teach three jokes per minute. Set

432
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: up punch, set up punch, set up punch, That's how

433
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: we do it. And I was so scared. I'd never

434
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: done any really any public speaking, and I wasn't that

435
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 1: good at it. And I was I was so afraid.

436
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: I wasn't afraid to fly planes, I wasn't afraid to

437
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: fire machine guns and rocket lawsuits and whatever. But I

438
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: was afraid to speak in front of people or tell

439
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 1: a joke in front of people, terrified, trembling, pulse out

440
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: my neck. And I remember, like I get up and

441
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: I pitch an idea in class, or he goes, regally,

442
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: you got a joke lest here, and I'd stand up

443
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: and I'd say it, and I would bail on the

444
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: joke because I was so embarrassed that, like, I wouldn't

445
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: even get to the punch, I wouldn't commit to it.

446
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,479
Speaker 1: I would just kind of start talking about it. And

447
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: it's it's almost like Will for All and Stepbrothers and

448
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to sing, you know, He's like, but

449
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's just not right. It's not right. You know.

450
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: The South's the lights off come with that, because it

451
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: was pathetic. It was pathetic. I was so afraid all

452
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: the time. And then finally it was that it's that, okay,

453
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the class, you have to do

454
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: your five minutes set oh and all the you also

455
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 1: need to bring your friends right to buy drinks, which

456
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: I was like, good god, you know, I didn't have

457
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: any friends, and I definitely didn't really want me to

458
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: see me, So I don't think I invited anybody, and

459
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: I think I'm in trouble for it. But I went

460
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: up on stage. I did five minutes. I came off

461
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: the stage. I felt like I had been in some

462
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: sort of trauma, no joke. I felt like it had

463
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: been in a car crash or a fist fight because

464
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: my adrenaline was I've never felt it like that. It

465
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: affected me in such a way that I felt like

466
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: things were delayed, like people were talking to me but

467
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't hearing them. It was almost like a state

468
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: of shock. It was that dramatic, which is shocking too.

469
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: But they gave me a videotape and said, oh yeah, hey, regol,

470
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: here's a videotape they tossed to me, and it's like, huh.

471
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: I remember. I took it home and I watched it

472
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: and I started to calm down and I watched myself.

473
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was. Uh,

474
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, the crowd reaction, but what to me. I

475
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: couldn't hear them, I couldn't see them. I didn't listen

476
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: to if they were laughing or not. I just powered

477
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: through my three jokes per minute that I hated to me.

478
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: None of them were funny. I hated all my material.

479
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: I hated it. So I got done with that whole experience,

480
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: and I was depressed because I was like, I can't

481
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: believe I gave up flying planes for this. This I

482
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: made the biggest mistake of my life. I mean the

483
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: biggest mistake of my life. And I was so depressed,

484
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: and I remember thinking, why did I do this? What

485
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: was I thinking? And I was really down on myself.

486
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: And a friend of mine suggested, Hey, you know, I

487
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: got a friend who does comedy. He was on Saturday

488
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: Night Live. He's a really nice guy. So I call

489
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: the guy and it's Dave Keckner, who is a wonderful,

490
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: wonderful human being, very gracious. His enthusiasm for life is

491
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: still it's still amazing even today. Yeah. So I called

492
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: up and said, hey, Dave, you don't know me. I'm

493
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 1: sorry you know this person? Oh yeah, yeah, they told

494
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: me you might be calling. What's going on, big man?

495
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I think I made a big mistake.

496
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: I tell him my whole story is like, oh, hell,

497
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: you should be doing stand up man, you gotta do it.

498
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: Prov I was like, they don't have it here in

499
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: New York at that time. They didn't all there. It

500
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: was Chicago City limits in New York, which is like

501
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: short form improv, like improv sports games. Yeah, well here's

502
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: an idea from the audience or whatever. Yeah, And so

503
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to do short form.

504
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: I've gone to see their shows and it's just that

505
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: that's even that seems even more stressful than do a

506
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: stand up. And He's like, no, no, no, no, I've

507
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: got some good friends who just moved out here from

508
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: New York from Chicago and they're starting a long form

509
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: improv scene here in New York City. They're the best.

510
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna love them. You gotta go see they do

511
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: a Sunday night show. It was the Upright Citizens Brigade.

512
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: It was Amy Poehler, Matt Walsh, Matt Besser, and Ian

513
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: Roberts with their friends Andy Richter, Horatio Sans Rachel Draft,

514
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: Tina Fey, uh My, Brian Stack, you know, Miriam Toland,

515
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: all these, you know, amazing performers and amazing writers. So

516
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: I went down to this rickety little black box theater

517
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: on thirty six West eighteenth Street, I think or whatever.

518
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: It was a nightmare. The stairs should have been condemned

519
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: getting up there was a death trap anyway you go in.

520
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: And I sat down. I had no idea what to expect,

521
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: and I saw the asscat show that they do, and

522
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: I was so shocked that I was like, they're making

523
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: this up as they go along, like it's too funny,

524
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: it's too good. The characters are so specific. My head

525
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: was spinning. So immediately afterward, I went up to Matt

526
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: Walsh and I said, hey, I'm friends with Dave. He was,

527
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: what do you think I go? Where do I sign up?

528
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: Where do I want? I want to do this? This

529
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: is what I want to do. So he's like, okay,

530
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: great man is basically sign right here and I'll take

531
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: the check. I was like, you got it, and so

532
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: that's that's where it started. I started taking classes with

533
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: the u c B. At that time, Amy Walsh, Bester

534
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: and Ian Roberts were the only teachers. There were four

535
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: of them, and they only had three levels. And I

536
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: took all three levels twice so I could have all

537
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,239
Speaker 1: four teachers because they were all so good and they

538
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: all taught different things. And you know, a level was

539
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: only eight weeks, you know, once a week, and so

540
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: I took all those levels. Then I they started doing

541
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: house teams. I got on a house team, and I

542
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: started playing with so many great, wonderful people Owen Burke,

543
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: Paul Sheer, Rob Hubill, Chad Carter, uh Seth Morris, Brian Husky,

544
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: Rob Cordrey. I mean, you know, people that are just

545
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: truly still in the business and still kicking so much.

546
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: But and so I feel so blessed that we all

547
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: kind of came up together. I mean, we we did

548
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: it all, and we did that. I did that for

549
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: seven years. You know, I was teaching classes down there

550
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: on the weekends. I was whatever I had to do

551
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: to be around the theater. I would do lights and

552
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: tech for other people's shows just so I could watch

553
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: their show, so I could get to meet them, because

554
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: I thought they were so awesome or whatever. And I

555
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: felt like I got a masters in sketch writing and

556
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: improv and comedy in general. And you've got the most

557
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: important things stage time. I got a lot of stage

558
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: time down there, which allowed me to make all those

559
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: mistakes that we all make when you're starting out. And

560
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: then so many things happened. I had to go away

561
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: to Kosovo. Then eleven happened, and then I had to

562
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: go away for a year. Then so when two thousand

563
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: four came here because I moved there in to New York,

564
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: and I got on Saturday Live in two thousand four

565
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: and my my Oprah moment, which I'll share with you

566
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna ever probably be on Oprah. But

567
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: I when I quit flight school, I was down in

568
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: Corpus Christie, Texas. I wrote in a book, if I

569
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: do this, because I hadn't quit anything in my life

570
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: up to that point, if I do this, uh, it's

571
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: got to count, it's got to matter. So what am

572
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: I going to accomplish? And I wrote down, I'm gonna

573
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: get on Saturday Night Live in Corpus Christie. In Corpus Christie. Now,

574
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: ten years later, almost to the day, I get a

575
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: call from Lawren Michaels asking me to join the cast.

576
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: So it took ten years, but it happened. Well, you know,

577
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: it's so crazy because I recently talked to Dave Keckner

578
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: and he was there in Missouri and that was his

579
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: very specific dream as well, to get on us. And yeah,

580
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: I do you know, when you if you experience it,

581
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: it's hard to deny it. And when I say that,

582
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean the law of attraction and what you focus

583
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: on you tend to get. It's not given. Just because

584
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: you think about it doesn't mean it's gonna happen. You

585
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: gotta meet it halfway. You gotta work, you gotta drive,

586
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: you gotta push, you gotta stay focused. If you experience it,

587
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: you really believe in it. So I do believe that

588
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: it's possible. I do believe it's real. It's so crazy

589
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: to me hearing you talk, because I mean, it's obviously

590
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: it's a part of your makeup, right, I mean, but

591
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: hearing you your dedication, I mean, the part of that

592
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: has to come from your childhood, from your time in

593
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: the Marines. That it's about working hard and staying committed,

594
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: and that is so rare, particularly in our business, or

595
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: at least in the entertainment business, if you will. It's

596
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: also flip and people expect things to be given to

597
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: them because of this thing or that thing, and that

598
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: you showed such amazing resolve and commitment and essentially said,

599
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even know what this thing is.

600
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: I hear there's a couple of places in Chicago that

601
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: are good but that you persevered that is amazing. Thanks. Thanks,

602
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: that's very nice. But I think you probably have a

603
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: very similar journey, uh in some in some respect. I mean,

604
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: I think anybody who searches for a life unique or different,

605
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: or especially in the arts, they're going to meet resistance

606
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: for a long time before they even get their opportunity.

607
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: So from UCB, obviously you audition, right, you audition for Lauren,

608
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: You went through that process at that point, did you

609
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: feel confident, had the feeling of of of leaving your

610
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: body had that kind of dissipated and were you more

611
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: confident on stage? Yes, I I didn't have the adrilline rush.

612
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't like I just got out of a car accident.

613
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: But the adrenaline was still very intense because after seven

614
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: years of grinding every night every weekend, now this this

615
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: dream that you had had kind of done everything in

616
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: your power to put yourself in a position to happen. Well,

617
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: now it's happening, and it's up to me. Like I

618
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: I could look around the room, but there's only one

619
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: person up here auditioning. So these are these great moments

620
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: in life, These are these wonderful opportunities in life where

621
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: you get to have a gut check, and you get

622
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: to have a conversation with yourself, you know, saying are

623
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: you gonna do it? 're not gonna do it? Why

624
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: did you come here? I have had so many conversations

625
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: with myself out loud that if anybody was filming them,

626
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't look like a crazy person because I do

627
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: it out loud. I actually do it out loud. Usually

628
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: I do it in the privacy of my car, or

629
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: you know, in in in the bathroom or something, or

630
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: the golf course when I'm off in a sandtrap screaming

631
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: at myself. But I remember, this is the summer of

632
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: two thousand four. I had just taught a class at

633
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: the u c B. It was a seven to ten

634
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: pm class. I had worked all day and I got done,

635
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: and all I wanted to do was go home and

636
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: go to bed because I was tired. I was a

637
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: little piste. So I came out of that class and

638
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: I stood on thirty feet and seventh Avenue, and I

639
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: knew SNL auditions were coming up, and I knew I

640
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: was behind. I didn't have it done, but I was tired,

641
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: and I was afraid of you know, all these and

642
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: So I'm literally standing on the corner yelling at myself,

643
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: saying things like what the fun are you doing? People

644
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: walking by me, and I'm going, what the funk are

645
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: you doing? Are you telling me you quit flight school?

646
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: You moved up here, You've been grinding your fucking ass

647
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: off for seven years, and you're just gonna go home

648
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: and go take a nappy nap because you're tired. Be

649
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: motherfucker fucking Marina. Get your ass down to the damp theater.

650
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: Work on a motherfucking character. Literally screaming at myself to

651
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: get the funk down to the theater and do it.

652
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: And I had to have those kinds of conversations and

653
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: it sounds hilarious, but I had to be my own

654
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: drill sergeant. I had to be my own coach. I

655
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: had to be my own kick me in the ask

656
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 1: guy because nobody was doing that. So I'm literally barking

657
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: at myself to get down there. And the reason I

658
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: didn't want to go down because I was not prepared.

659
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: I did not have any material. So I got down there,

660
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: I signed up. I'm in the green room. So I

661
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: started like throwing out a few thoughts on this character,

662
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: and it was an old characters. It was a far

663
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: too old Jim teacher that is still teaching sex heade

664
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: classes U and has no business doing it right. And

665
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: that's but that was the premise. But that's all I had.

666
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: So then I said, okay, well maybe i'll try. So

667
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: I get out there and I kind of walk out

668
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: there with like a walker or whatever, and I started

669
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: talking about penises and vaginas and it was working because

670
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: I was getting last but I'm improvising the whole thing.

671
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to remember that work. That worked, and

672
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: it went so well that I went back into the

673
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: green room and there was still time and there weren't

674
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: enough people signed up. So I said, I'm gonna go

675
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: back and doing another character. So I went back out

676
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: and I did a recruiter who wouldn't take no for

677
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: an answer. So I tried to recruit a guy in

678
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: the audience. You know. I was like, hey, young man,

679
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: how are you paying for college? And he's like, I

680
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: don't know, my parents are really you can put the

681
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: burden on your parents. How about your man up? How

682
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: about you don't? It didn't matter. I could come here

683
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: and said, you know, he could say anything to me.

684
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: He said, I'm a double anpt A. That's great. We

685
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: got that all day. We can do that all day.

686
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: I gotta wait with And I went home that night

687
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: like a sucking one thirty or whatever. By the time

688
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: I got home, I was so proud of myself that

689
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: I had gone down there and made progress. So that

690
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: was that was a good moment. But it required me

691
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: being my own coach for sure. That's amazing. Was your

692
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: dream of getting on SNL? Was it everything that you

693
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: had hoped that it would be? Yes, unequivocally yes, it

694
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: was a total dream come true. And I wouldn't trade

695
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: a minute of it. Would I do things differently knowing now, Yes,

696
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: absolutely I would. I I was so green. That was

697
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: the first job I had to show business. I didn't

698
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: know shipped from Shinola. I didn't know anything. I remember

699
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: Amy Poehler was on the show at the time, and

700
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: she's very wise and very very smart and very savvy.

701
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: All I knew was the Marines and work ethic. That's

702
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: really all I brought to the table. And I remember

703
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: Amy pulled me aside, maybe my first or second day,

704
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: and she goes congratulation. She was so happy for me

705
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: because she was one of my teachers. You know, she's

706
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: very happy, and I think I was the first UCB

707
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: student to actually get on the show. So she was

708
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: happy that had gone through all of the classes yea,

709
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: and she was super happy for me, and I was,

710
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, it was my dream come true. And she

711
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: kind of leaned over and said, hey, don't give this

712
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: place too much power. And I remember going, yeah, good,

713
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: got it. I didn't know what that meant, and instead

714
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: of asking for clarity, like what do you mean, I

715
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: just went yeah, yeah, good, good, good call it, good call,

716
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: good call, and yeah, hindsight, now I realized I did.

717
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: I did just that. I got there, and I gave

718
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: that place so much power that I forgot how I

719
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: even got there. I forgot. I looked around. I was like, well,

720
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: I need to write with all the writers so they

721
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: all get to know me. So that's what I did.

722
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: I'd go knock on doors and hey, would you like

723
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: to write a sketch? Would you like to write a sketch?

724
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: Would you like to drisking? So I ended up trying

725
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: to please twenty masters and I please none. And again,

726
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: these are all lessons you learn as you go and

727
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: as you grow. So I'm not beating myself up, and

728
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm not judging myself. I would just do I would

729
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: have done it differently. And you gotta remember too, I

730
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: was the only guy hired that year. You were the

731
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: only new guy. Only new guy. So I talked to

732
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: Will Ferrell about it and he said, uh, well you're

733
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: kind of fucked. Go. I go, what I I don't

734
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: want to hear that. What do you mean? He goes, Listen,

735
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: he goes when I When I came on, the cast

736
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: was only twelve, and I think they hired six of

737
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: us that year. They had to use us. We were

738
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: being we were gonna be in every scene no matter what.

739
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: You're on a cast of fifteen and you're the only

740
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: new guy. And he goes, so you know you're gonna

741
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: have to do your best to try to find a

742
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: way to be seen and heard. And I was like, yeah, yeah,

743
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so it's a matter

744
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: of how do I find a way? And the thing was,

745
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: by anybody's standards, I had a great first year. I

746
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: did you know, I made every show. I had characters

747
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: get on the air. I had sketches that I co

748
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: wrote get on the air. I had I did okay

749
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: for a first year guy flying by himself. People thought

750
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: I had a good year. I thought, I did, Okay,

751
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: you're a great year. It's just making me think of

752
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: It's making me think of squid Game though, right when

753
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: squid Dame says like, okay, everybody find a partner, and

754
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: you look around and you're like, wait, a second fifteen

755
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: is an odd number. Guy, Where am I going? Now? Yeah? No,

756
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: I get it. That's really it is challenging. It's super tricky.

757
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: And so I remember we all left in high spirits

758
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: that season, and I thought, okay, well when I come

759
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: back next year, I'm gonna lose some weight because the

760
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: costume department was very mean to me and they said,

761
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: I would, you know, you gotta lose weight, stop eating?

762
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: They would. I mean they were brutal, you know. So

763
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 1: I'm trying to lose weight. I'm out there running every

764
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: day and working out over the summer, and I'm doing

765
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 1: character work and I was trying to grab stage time

766
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: and I was just doing everything I could to come

767
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: back stronger than ever. And I got a call say

768
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't want to send me send my contracts.

769
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: So I'm remember I being devastated by that, and I

770
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: gave myself about a fifteen minute pity party. I remember

771
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: just I was scared, I was hurt, I was embarrassed,

772
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: I was all those negative emotions. I wanted to change it.

773
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: Can I call somebody? Is there anything I can do?

774
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: What can we do to undo this? You know, how

775
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: can I fix this? And I think I went through

776
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: all five stages of grief in about fifteen minutes, and

777
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: I accepted the fact that this is, this is what

778
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: it is, and there's it is. It's over. So I said, Okay, well,

779
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: I gotta make a living. So I got back on

780
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: the phone. I called my manager and I said, okay,

781
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: what do we do next? And then Rob Huwill and

782
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: I ended up selling a pilot script NBC. And so

783
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: that's what I worked on that fall of two thousand five,

784
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: and then shortly after that two thousand six, I got

785
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: on The Daily Show. Yeah, but yeah, it was. It

786
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: was a sad, sad, harsh feeling. Did did you ever

787
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: get any closure with SNL or was it just like

788
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: thanks but no thanks. I did talk to one of

789
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: the producer is ken Among, who was really the only

790
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: one who reached out. It's very cold, very cold business.

791
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: I learned a little bit about show business. Again. I

792
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: was so naive. I thought there would be some you know,

793
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: heartfelt handshake and pad on the back from Lauren as

794
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: I exited the building. You know, no, no, it's nothing

795
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: like that. It's it's it's served up very cold. Um.

796
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: But Ken said, listen, Rob, you know you did a

797
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: great job. It wasn't anything you did. You didn't upset anybody.

798
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: You didn't. It was two thousand four, it was carry

799
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: Verse Bush election year, and an election years, SNL gets

800
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: a huge spike in the ratings and for whatever reason,

801
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: people hated that election. No spike in the ratings, and

802
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: so NBC didn't like it, and they demanded that Lauren

803
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: shake up the cast. And so I was last one in,

804
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: first one out. And he said, that's what happened. You

805
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: just got caught up in a bad timing situation. But

806
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: that's okay because the people they did go get I

807
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: love all of them, So congrats. Uh. And then I

808
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: was I was blessed to have John Stewart picked me

809
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: up and make me a correspondent on his show. I

810
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: whish I did for three years and and we won

811
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: the Emmy all three years sn L. Now I'm glad

812
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: you brought up The Daily Show because I wanted to

813
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: talk about that. As you may know, UH, my good

814
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: friend and yours Steve Carrell was on The Daily Show,

815
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert, so many incredible comedians, and around the time

816
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: you were on it, it really took off and it

817
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: really became musty TV or in some ways America's news source,

818
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: because even with all the jokes and and stuff, it

819
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: also gave at least an amount of real information and insights. Uh.

820
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm such a huge fan of that show. What was

821
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: that a good experience for you? It was the best? Um.

822
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: I learned so much. And John Stewart is such an

823
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: amazing leader, uh and and very smart man. He really

824
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: sees through a lot of stuff. And he was very

825
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: very gracious with me. He knew I was still great.

826
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: He knew I didn't have much experience in front of

827
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: a camera. I never worked off a teleprompter. That was

828
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: hilarious because I started reading off a telepropter and I'd

829
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: be like I was, I can only get anything out

830
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: because I would get so scared. It's a tense and

831
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: then I would read faster and it would move faster.

832
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: It was like, I can't keep up, and then would

833
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: just explode right, and it's it's they'll read it your pace.

834
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but they're not. Like I start reading

835
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: and it starts moving and I can't keep up, and

836
00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: they're like, don't speed up. Like so quite literally, on

837
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: my lunch breaks, I would get the teleprompter lady because

838
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: she could eat her lunch at her desk and do it,

839
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: and I would get the floor director. We would go

840
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: into the studio and I would throw up old scripts

841
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: and I would just practice and practice and practice on

842
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: that teleprompter. So I got comfortable, you know, looking and

843
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: seeing the font and and letting the words drift by

844
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: and not panicking that I wasn't gonna catch them or whatever.

845
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: And somehow I think John found out about it, and

846
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: I think he liked He appreciated that. He appreciated that

847
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: I cared enough to get better at it because he

848
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: knew I wasn't good at it. And you know the

849
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: way it works over there is you're hired for six months.

850
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: It's not a job, it's it's an audition. Still, it's

851
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: an extended audition. So then I got I passed the

852
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: first six months, so I got myself another six months,

853
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: but that was it, just another six months. So I'm like, ah,

854
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: you know, so I still I can't commit to moving

855
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: a family across the country. I can't commit to because

856
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: it's also basic cable. It's not paying me anything. You know.

857
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: I could barely afford to live in the Craigslist studio apartment,

858
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: which is what I was living in. And then after

859
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: that second six months, I got picked up for one year,

860
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: so I was like whoo, and then I got one

861
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: year extensions after that, you know, but it was never

862
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: any hardcore commitment. However, that time on that show I'll

863
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: be so grateful for because John allowed me to make mistakes,

864
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: to get better, to get stronger, to contribute in the

865
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: writing room. I just learned so much from him, and

866
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: he was so gracious, so I'm all always be a

867
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: fan of his. And then you know, John Oliver and

868
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: I ended up was shared in office and and you

869
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: know what a treat that was because he was a

870
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: geographic he was a bachelor, and I was a geographical bachelor.

871
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: So when I got done with work, I would either

872
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: go back to my studio and grab it Chipotle on

873
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: the way back and then play PlayStation. That's what That's

874
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: how I spend my evenings because it keeps you out

875
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: of trouble and saves money. Anytime you leave your apartment

876
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: in New York City, you're spending money. So I just

877
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: saved money by in that. And and John Oliver same

878
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: boat pretty much. So when we get done with work,

879
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: he'd say, Okay, we're gonna jump in a cab right

880
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: after work and we're gonna hit five mikes tonight and go,

881
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: I don't do stand up, man. I I suck at it.

882
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: I tried it when I got up here. It sucks.

883
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 1: He goes, no, no, no, we're gonna do it different.

884
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: And so we built a set and in one night

885
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: he helped me build like three solid minutes. I was like, okay,

886
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: so I got three. He goes, all right, we're just

887
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: gonna keep doing this until you have forty five minutes.

888
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: And so we did wow, and then eventually I had

889
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: a stand up set and was able to do stand

890
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: up for about four years, touring around and all because John,

891
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: I think, was bored and was like, you're coming with me.

892
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: I needed someone to I need someone to split cab

893
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: fare with because we're going all over Manhattan and doing

894
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: stand ups. Well, you can thank John, but it's again

895
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: perseverance and hard work. And you know the story of

896
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: you during your lunch hour practicing to get better because

897
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: you knew you had to get better. That's about perseverance

898
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: and hard work. And that's that is something truly well

899
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: to respect the hell out of you for. I mean,

900
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: come on, and now during all of this time, you're

901
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: also you know, starting to do straight acting work. And

902
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: of course I can't not mention Captain jack Uh your

903
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: role of the office coming out to film what was,

904
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: without a doubt, the most difficult film we that we

905
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: had in ten years. There's no question, there's no question

906
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: working from seven pm to like seven am out on

907
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: the water, it was. It was were you aware of

908
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: the office when you got that job? What was your okay?

909
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: So I was. I was very aware of the BBC

910
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: version while I was on snl Uh. You know, we're

911
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: on the writers are on seventeen and the studios down

912
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: on eight and on sixteen. They have a casting directors

913
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: and stuff. I actually auditioned for Michael Scott. I knew this,

914
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: and I auditioned for Dwight and Keckner's role. I forget

915
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: his name, packer. They made the right choice, obviously, but

916
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: I was fresh in their minds because I think I

917
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: did the episode that I did the Booze Cruise before

918
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: I got the Daily Gap between S and L. And

919
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: when I got the Daily Show, that's when I got

920
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: the office role, which I was so happy to get

921
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: and so honored. And for me it was super cool

922
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: because one I love the show is Your Guys second season.

923
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: I think the show's a hit. Everybody knows and everybody's

924
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: loving it, and I was one of them. I was

925
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: like more and more and I get to be part

926
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 1: of it, which was great. But I'm still so green

927
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: as an actor and as a performer. Being on cameras

928
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: still made me nervous. I'm nervous as hell. And when

929
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: we got out on the water, remember whenna we floated out. Okay,

930
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: between between setups, normally everybody goes back to the trailer,

931
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: they go back to crafty kind of everybody separates against

932
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: their space. There was nowhere to go on that boat.

933
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: When they say, okay, we're setting up for it, moving on,

934
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: it's time for a new shot, they'd go to set up.

935
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: We all just go sit on the dance floor or

936
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: sit in those boots and hang out, yeah, those booths,

937
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: And I remember thinking this is awesome. I just remember

938
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: enjoying the hell out of it, and not even dawning

939
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: on me that we were dust till dawn, um and

940
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: it was draining, and I think, if I'm not mistaken,

941
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: Correll was shooting Evan Almighty and he would literally leave.

942
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: We'd pull back to the to the dock, he would

943
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: get out, get into sedan and drive to film all day.

944
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: And I remember thinking, when's this guy getting his sleep?

945
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: This is insane. And and yet his performance on the boat,

946
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: and I'm sure his performance in the movie fantastic, but

947
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: it was totally fun. One thing about that episode that

948
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: bumps me out to this day. Okay, for whatever reason,

949
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe it was the Devil, maybe evil

950
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: demon angel. Somebody would not let me get the words

951
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: wall in Paul Pack out of my mouth. I couldn't

952
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: say it. I couldn't say it. We're supposed to be

953
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: on Lake waldon Paul Pack. I can say it now

954
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: as if it's nothing. I can say it with ease.

955
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: That night I maybe got it out once or twice correctly,

956
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: and the rest I just couldn't do it. And I

957
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: remember they were looking at me and they were baffled.

958
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: They were absolutely baffled, like what is this guy has

959
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: a major malfunction? How do you can you not say

960
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: wald In Paul Pack? And I can't explain it. It's

961
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: just one of those moments where you're like, I'm so sorry.

962
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to die. I wanted to go crawl. I

963
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: wanted to dive off that boat and die. Well, first

964
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: of all, everyone has been there. I have not thought

965
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: about that in years, and you and I see each other,

966
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: I don't know ten times a year after are you

967
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: think I have not ever once I thought of that

968
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: moment until right now. And the second you said it

969
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's right. He couldn't say it.

970
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: I couldn't say it. I couldn't say it right. And

971
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: I know it was so simple, and they were literally

972
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: they were looking at me, go Wall and Paul Pack.

973
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: I go, well, it's just Wall and well while Papa Pack,

974
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: I mean really, there was some synapsis in my brain

975
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: that would not connected. And you know, you know Brian

976
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: as an actor. To drive home, I said every line perfectly.

977
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: I said every word perfectly. I mean, I couldn't have

978
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: been more spot on to drive home. Yeah, Oh that's

979
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: so funny. That is Oh that is amazing. Do you

980
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: get recognized? Do people yelled Captain Jack at you every

981
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: now and then? Yes, yes they do. I was probably

982
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: no joke, probably pounds heavier, so I looked a little

983
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: different then. Interesting that episode, by the way, it was,

984
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: was shared with me or reminded by Kevin Riley actually,

985
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: who was the head of NBC at the time, that

986
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: he would call about the ratings after every night, and

987
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: obviously the Office became a big show for him and

988
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: he kind of staked his reputation on it. And after

989
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: Booze Cruise, the Office didn't just retain the number from

990
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: my Name is Earl, which came before, but actually beat

991
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: it in the ratings. And he said, he said, I

992
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: may have cried. It was like that kind of moment

993
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: for him. Like that episode so significantly the only thing

994
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: that brought other than not being able to say well

995
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: in Paul Pack, which still haunts me. I mean, I

996
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: still feel so bad about that. I was bummed out

997
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: because I knew that once my episode was over, you

998
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't see Captain Jack again, and I was like, and

999
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: they're not going to bring me back as some other

1000
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: character because I was wanting to be reoccurring on on

1001
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: the Office, just because it's such an iconic, legendary show.

1002
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: But I won't be greedy. I was very grateful for

1003
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: the opportunity that to be Captain Jack. Well, look, I

1004
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: mean during that time and just setting the Office aside,

1005
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: you were really on had the opportunity to appear on

1006
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: every great show during that time with you know, all

1007
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: due respect to the ones you weren't on, but I

1008
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: mean Arrested Development and thirty Rock and Modern Family and

1009
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: just amazing all of the shows that that that you

1010
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: were on during that time and obviously recurred on a

1011
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: lot of them. Yeah, I was very happy about that,

1012
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: very blessed. But the Office is definitely special. Well, yes

1013
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: it is for me to absolutely it should be. I

1014
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: don't want to take up too much more of your time,

1015
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: but you and I share obviously a love of football.

1016
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: I know you worked at Fox as one of their

1017
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what do you call it contributors prognosticate Yes,

1018
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: some the end and a huge Kansas City Chiefs fan.

1019
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, did you did you watch the Super Bowl

1020
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: or did you say screw it? I watched it. I

1021
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: watched it. I'm I'm a fan of the game. I'm

1022
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: glad they give us a week off from the a

1023
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: f C and NFC championships to the Super Bowl. Allowed

1024
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: me to cool down a little bit. A loved me

1025
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: to walk it off, as they say, you know, this

1026
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: year's playoffs were the greatest playoffs I've seen, maybe in

1027
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: my lifetime. The game before that against Buffalo was probably

1028
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: the single greatest game I've ever seen. And so this

1029
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: playoffs seas were fullest high highs and low lows. And

1030
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: but that's why they play the games, you know, That's

1031
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: what makes it exciting, you know. And and uh, it

1032
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: was it was fun to see such great competition. But yeah,

1033
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: of course, I'm I'll never forgive Cincinnati Cincinnati. Yeah, yeah.

1034
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: Did you root for Cincinnati because they beat you? Or

1035
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: did you root against them because they beat you? You know,

1036
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: it was That's a tough call because there's a couple

1037
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: of schools of thought, because if they go on to

1038
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, they become a team of destiny

1039
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: and it was preordained. So we can live with the

1040
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: loss a little better. You know, they were a team

1041
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: of destiny or do I want vengeance? Um? Tough call

1042
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: because I wanted both, to be honest with you. UM.

1043
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: But I also like, since I'm a cancer, I'm die

1044
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: hard Kansa City, Kansas City top never in question. However,

1045
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: I live in l A. So I don't feel bad

1046
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: about rooting for the Rams because their NFC and it's

1047
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: where I live. So and the same thing with the

1048
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: Dodgers their n L National League and uh, it's where

1049
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: I live. So I can root for those guys as

1050
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: long as you're not playing the Royals or the Chiefs. Now,

1051
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: if you play the roles the Chiefs, obviously they get

1052
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: your trumped. So I don't know. Yeah, I you know,

1053
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: because I as a Packers fan, generally for me, it's

1054
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: vengeance like Seattle or the Niners, I can't root for them.

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Speaker 1: I just I mean, it's just it's an impossibility. I

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Speaker 1: the Rams fairly likable, Like I like all of those guys.

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Speaker 1: I think the Stafford story is just a great story.

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Speaker 1: And Cooper Cup and you know you talk about perseverance

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Speaker 1: and determination, I mean that guy, I mean it's just unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: But my dad was from Cincinnati, and no joke robbed.

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Speaker 1: This morning, my sister sent me a photograph my grandmother,

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Speaker 1: who by the way, lived and I always remember her

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Speaker 1: as like dressed impeccably, didn't have a lot of means like,

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Speaker 1: wasn't rich by anything, but just always looked her best.

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Speaker 1: And my sister this morning sent me a photograph and

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Speaker 1: she said this has to have been from because it

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Speaker 1: was my grandmother and my grandfather standing on their porch

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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, Ohio, and my grandmother is wearing a Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Bengals sweatshirt. And it must have been that Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: run back that I would have been the only thing

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Speaker 1: that would have made her where a sweatshirt. So I did.

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Speaker 1: I'd like the Rams. I was rooting for the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: have to admit it. I was reading I Love the

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Speaker 1: I love the good game. I liked a good game,

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Speaker 1: and then I think we got a good game. So

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Speaker 1: that's all you can ask for. Well, speaking of good games,

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Speaker 1: first of all, thank you so much for talking to

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Speaker 1: me and sharing so much about your career and your

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Speaker 1: work ethic, which now it'll probably be a problem for

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Speaker 1: me trying to take money from you on the golf course.

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Speaker 1: But I look forward. I look forward to our competition.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you Rob was Rob was a straight underdog.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's just be honest. Last year in Tahoe,

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Speaker 1: the odds, I don't know what they would have been.

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Speaker 1: He kicked my ass last year and it's so well,

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Speaker 1: and his caddy is teaching me. I'm like where, I how?

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is unbelievable. Put with energy? Put with energy.

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Speaker 1: Next year, I'm gonna come. I'm gonna get you because

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna think about putting with energy. We gotta line

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Speaker 1: up some side action. We did we say we did.

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Speaker 1: We were gonna do it last we didn't get it done.

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Speaker 1: So let's let's figure it out and we'll get the

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Speaker 1: usual cast of characters. Well, now you're the favorite. Now

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Speaker 1: you're the favorite, and I get odds because you you

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Speaker 1: did it to me last year. Oh my god, you

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Speaker 1: played so great last year. Let's let's try to play

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Speaker 1: before that. That's not until absolutely let's do Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got time. Rob. Thank you so much. I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on and talking to me. I'm so

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Speaker 1: glad you invited me. Thank you. I appreciate. It's good

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Speaker 1: talking to you always. You too, and I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: that persever and stuff. I just I'm so happy for

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Speaker 1: you and proud of you. Sounds weird, but like yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you just fucking stuck with it. It's awesome. Well, thanks, buddy,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. Yeah, same with you. Yeah, Rob Wriggle,

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. What a pleasure. Oh, I enjoyed that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for stopping by. Rob. I'll see

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Speaker 1: you very very soon, and thank you to everyone out

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Speaker 1: there listening. Head over to at Off the Beat on

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Speaker 1: to keep us up to speed on who you would

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Speaker 1: like to hear from. Who should I sit down with next? Well,

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Speaker 1: next week we've already got another spectacular guest. Who could

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Speaker 1: it be? Will he tell us no? Until then, everybody,

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Speaker 1: have a fantastic week. Off the Beat is hosted an

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Speaker 1: executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer Langley.

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Speaker 1: Our producers are Diego Tapia, Liz Hayes, Emily Carr, and

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Speaker 1: Hannah Harris. Our talent producer is Ryan Papa Zachary. Our

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Speaker 1: theme song Bubble and Squeak performed by my great friend

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