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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Danielle With a podcast that if

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Speaker 1: your hip to industry. LINGO recently flipped into my solo

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Speaker 1: interview series teen Beat. But since I Danielle Fischl, director, podcaster,

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Speaker 1: mom of two, and TV ready ballroom dancer, I am about

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Speaker 1: to go out on the road for the Dancing with

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Speaker 1: the Stars Live Tour. I figured that I'd not only

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Speaker 1: be updating you from all cities like Hershey, Pennsylvania and Banger, Maine,

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Speaker 1: I'd also prep a bit and return to talk to

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Speaker 1: some of my favorite pros and contestants from the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm hosting twenty eight live performances over three months, and

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Speaker 1: since this is a safe space, I will admit one thing.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what to expect.

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Speaker 1: Yet I am very excited to meet some of you

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Speaker 1: live and in person at these shows, and if worse

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Speaker 1: comes to worse, I will just use any free time

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Speaker 1: I have on the bus to force Jenna Johnson to

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Speaker 1: help me get abs. But today I wouldn't just return

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Speaker 1: to Danielle with for any meaningless reason. It would have

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Speaker 1: to be for a guest of the utmost importance, a

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Speaker 1: superstar even, And so for this week's special episode, I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by the owner of not only one, but two

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Speaker 1: mirror ball trophies, with her most recent victory capturing the

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Speaker 1: nation by storm and forever changing the culture of the

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Speaker 1: show moving forward. She first appeared on the ballroom floor

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Speaker 1: as a member of the troop in seasons sixteen and seventeen,

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Speaker 1: then the following year was promoted to big League competitor,

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Speaker 1: and it only took two cycles to score her way

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Speaker 1: into the winner's circle, partnered with Alfonso Ribero, who at

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Speaker 1: the time was just a lowly celebrity contestant, but with

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Speaker 1: her help not only transformed into one of the most

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Speaker 1: impressive winners in the show's history, he would later become

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Speaker 1: the face of the process. Then, over the next thirteen seasons,

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Speaker 1: she'd have eight top five finishes, including her turn with

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Speaker 1: Milo Mannheim, whose second place showing is often referred to

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Speaker 1: by dance experts as a total effing crime against rhythm.

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Speaker 1: But in twenty twenty five, things began to look up

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Speaker 1: or should I say down under, when she paired with

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Speaker 1: human Koala Bear Robert Erwin, and right out of the gate,

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Speaker 1: the pair stole America's hearts, gliding into the finals and

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Speaker 1: securing the len Goodman Trophy. It makes you wonder how

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Speaker 1: could she top it? What's next for this fellow mom

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Speaker 1: of two adorable boys who seems to capture dance magic

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Speaker 1: year after year. Well, i'll tell you what. She's sitting

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Speaker 1: with me to talk about her undeniable Hall of fame

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Speaker 1: career in the hollowed halls of Dancing with the Stars

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Speaker 1: and what I can expect on this tour. I'm wildly

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Speaker 1: reigning champ, Miss Whitney Carson.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what an intro. Chills Like, Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: this is incredible. How do I put that Danielle in

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Speaker 1: I will get it for you. We'll we'll snip it,

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Speaker 1: we'll send it in. It's actually a really a really

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Speaker 1: great intro for my one of my first questions, which

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Speaker 1: is I when we had Alfonso on the show, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: talk about getting chills. The way he spoke about you

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Speaker 1: and the love and the reverence and the respect he

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Speaker 1: like really sees you was so special. And one of

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Speaker 1: the clips of him talking about you, what pretty viral.

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Speaker 1: What did you think when you first heard that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, he is just such a gem of

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Speaker 3: a human. I mean, you know him, you've known him

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Speaker 3: spread my wings in this Hollywood world. Because I'm from

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Speaker 3: on we've just had like this inseparable bond and something

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Speaker 3: that's really traveled with us through adulthood and through my marriage.

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Speaker 3: And he's always been a mentor to me. But that

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Speaker 3: And so I was like, you know what, that is

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Speaker 3: And I'm just so grateful that he's always been in

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Speaker 3: So that was really sweet to see that kind of

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, that's very apparent.

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Speaker 1: I am speaking to you the day before you leave

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Speaker 1: for Australia with your family. We were just discussing before

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Speaker 3: We are so extremely excited. We honestly weren't planning on

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Speaker 3: have facetimed and texted over what we're going to do

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Speaker 3: and our plans. He's like, can I just go ahead

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Speaker 1: You're in very good, capable hands, so that's at least

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Speaker 2: Robert so oh, I love it.

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Speaker 3: I will let you guys know because I know you

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Speaker 2: Are we are? Yeah, we're going to book a trip.

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Speaker 2: So yes, yes, you guys should think it'll be fun.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine when you started a career in ballroom

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Speaker 3: You never And that's what's so beautiful about this show though.

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Speaker 2: He's truly incredible.

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Speaker 1: I tell everybody every chance I get, like, exactly what

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Speaker 1: Kid Whitney, your mom was a travel agent and your

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Speaker 3: I go off timing so it looks like they're on timing.

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00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 3: We find little tricks that kind of allow them to shine,

439
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 3: which in which in turn honestly makes makes you like

440
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: look better as well, because you know, it's it's a

441
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 3: win win when you when you do it that way

442
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: and you really think about their journey and their and

443
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 3: what makes them shine and finding those moments to really

444
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 3: make them stand out.

445
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think made him such a perfect

446
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: contestant for the show.

447
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:41,239
Speaker 3: If you know Alfonso, he is good at everything and

448
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 3: that mentality it takes a certain personality, takes a certain

449
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 3: person whether it was it was something in their childhood

450
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 3: or their career or whatever they that made them that way.

451
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 3: But Alfonso is that like if he wants to golf,

452
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 3: he's the best at golf. If he is trying to

453
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 3: do tennis, he's the best at that. He will go, go,

454
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: go until he is he's mastered it. And so that's

455
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: how he came into the Dancing with the Stars. He

456
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 3: wasn't like, Okay, I'm here to have fun. Obviously, I'm

457
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 3: sure that's yeah, that comes with it, but he was like,

458
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 3: I'm going to give this everything in my like like

459
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: everything that I have. And I think that was the

460
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 3: same with Robert too. And you have those few personalities

461
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: where you're like, Okay, like this, I know, I know

462
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 3: he's going to do amazing because he's got he's got

463
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 3: what it takes to really go there and on a

464
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 3: show like this, you have to do that. You have

465
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 3: to put your whole soul and heart and everything into it.

466
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 3: And that's just his personality. And I think that he's

467
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: been in TV for very for so long, so he's

468
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 3: comfortable on camera and that really helped. He was very

469
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 3: mature in the way that he handled the producers in

470
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 3: the studio and with me, and very much like calm

471
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: and collected, and he was I think that he was

472
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: just such a just a special person for people to

473
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: watch too. They just connected to us so much because

474
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 3: we connected obviously, and people root for the connections and

475
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 3: the partnerships too. Yeah, we made We made the talk

476
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 3: shows quite a bit from our little banter, which was

477
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 3: really funny.

478
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: That's so cute.

479
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 3: People still tell me they're like, my favorite thing you

480
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 3: ever said to him was when you hit hit him

481
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: in the crotch and you said you need a snack.

482
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 3: It's like, that's a good line. I still do that

483
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 3: nowadays too. I'm like, I hit people like, you need

484
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 3: some food. Food get better. You have some chips, will

485
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 3: make it better, I promise. But yeah, I think just

486
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: his personality and his drive and the way that we connected.

487
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: I think what is what made us successful. And now

488
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 3: he's like such a big part of the show. He's

489
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: such a he's the heart of it, you know my opinion.

490
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 3: So I think that it all worked out for the best.

491
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he's such an incredible host.

492
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: I know everyone who's ever seen the show with him

493
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: knows that he is spectacular to watch and everybody talks

494
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: about Everybody just watches him, and then every now and

495
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: then someone will just look at each other and go, Wow,

496
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: that's he's good.

497
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 3: He's really good.

498
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: He's really good.

499
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: I love that he is so invested in each of

500
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 3: the celebrities too. Yeah, don't you feel like he gave

501
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 3: you like some good advice and he was very much

502
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: like just he wants everyone to genuinely do well. Yeah,

503
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 3: and he takes his job seriously. So it's like if

504
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: if he knows that you're struggling with something in the week,

505
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 3: he'll he'll maybe bring that up or he just really can.

506
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 3: He really puts everything he has into everything that he does.

507
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: So he really does. He's everyone's safe space. I mean

508
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 1: really that he is. He gives everyone that feeling. If like,

509
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: as long as I'm here and I'm with him, I

510
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: know I'm in a safe place.

511
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. Oh I love that. How did you feel

512
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 3: like your last your last week, Like did you feel

513
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 3: like did you feel like you got out what you

514
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: wanted from this experience? Or like, well, how what was

515
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 3: your mental space coming into it? Like did you just

516
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 3: want to have fun or did you want to win?

517
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 3: Like what was your mentality?

518
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: I'm curious when I first started, before we even started,

519
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: once I knew I was doing the show, So like

520
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: sometime at the beginning of August, when I knew, Okay,

521
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm doing the show, I was like.

522
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna win. I want to win.

523
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm very competitive, but I'm also like competitive and a realist.

524
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: And so once we actually started and I saw all

525
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: the other dancers, and you know, going into it, obviously

526
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: I was a fan of the show, so I knew

527
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: there was going to be a lot more involved in

528
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: winning than just dance ability. It's likability and personality and

529
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: who connects with the audience, and you don't know, like

530
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: those are all factors kind of completely out of your control.

531
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 2: And I remember then, like on pretty.

532
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: Much the first week, being like, oh wow, this is

533
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: a stacked season on all of those fronts, like different,

534
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: different likabilities, different rivalries, different partnerships that people are going

535
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: to root for, lots of prior dance experience, and I,

536
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: similar to Robert, had no prior dance experience. Wow, so

537
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: you know, I'd never even taken a dance class.

538
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 3: So it was like, my goodness, I didn't know that.

539
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: Yeah I have, I've never I'd never danced, and so

540
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: then I kind of was like, Okay, well, maybe I'm

541
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: not gonna win, which is fine. Maybe there's a win

542
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: in a different way, and that is then I was like,

543
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: the win is competing with myself and getting better every

544
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: week and feeling like, you know, the language of dance

545
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: is both in my body and in my brain, and

546
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: I feel like I just understand it more and I

547
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: definitely feel like I got all of that out of it.

548
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: What I will say is that if I wasn't if

549
00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: I didn't have small kids, I probably would have. And

550
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if it really would have made that

551
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: much of a difference, because I don't look back on

552
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: my experience on the show and say I didn't work

553
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: hard enough, like.

554
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: We brusted our butts.

555
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: But when I left the studio, I then did have

556
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: to come home and be a mom, and I had

557
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: to put my kids to bed, and I had to

558
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, there were things I had to do that

559
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to do in order to not feel like

560
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: I just a bit truly abandoned my family. There was

561
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: enough feeling like you do that anyway, And then it

562
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: meant like I had fifteen to twenty minutes at night

563
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: to review tape and right before I would fall asleep.

564
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: And if I were younger and or did not.

565
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: Have children, there probably would have been more I would

566
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: have I would have been able to do than just that.

567
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: So who knows though if it would have made a difference,

568
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't change anything about my experience.

569
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: That's so I'm so glad. I just was curious about that.

570
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: I feel the exact same way because I have two

571
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: little ones as well. But I think that's what makes

572
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: us have such a unique perspective when we do get

573
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: get out on stage, when we do dance, and when

574
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: we do emote like like, I feel like I connected

575
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: to you so much because you are a mom, and

576
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 3: like your heart and your passion and your like the

577
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: way that you emoted on stage like made that so personal,

578
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: like so cool, So I feel like it was all

579
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: it was all meant to be. I mean, is your

580
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: balance like we balance so much as a mom, Like

581
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 3: I know, it was crazy like towards the end, like Carson,

582
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 3: my husband was like, just go for it. He's like,

583
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 3: I got the kids, so they didn't have a mom

584
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 3: honestly for probably the last like four weeks of competence,

585
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 3: Like I left before they got up, and then I

586
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: came home when they after they went to bed, like

587
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 3: they did not have a mom. I was like, so sorry,

588
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: I will see you in four weeks.

589
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: And there there was no other way around it.

590
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: Had I made it, had I made it that far,

591
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: that would have been the exact same situation for me.

592
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: Too, exactly. And it's just it's just so hard when

593
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: you are balancing so many different things.

594
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 1: Yes, and you feel so guilty too because you're like,

595
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: they don't understand, they have no idea. And my son,

596
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: my son did have a meltdown. I told you about

597
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: my oldest son's meltdown. He was like, I hate this job.

598
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: I did not hear that.

599
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, he said to me. He was like,

600
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: I hate this job. Why did you even take this job?

601
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: You don't have time for me? And Keaton anymore. All

602
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: you do is dance, dance, dance.

603
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, shattered, shattered, literally kill me. I'd be like, okay,

604
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 3: I'm quitting. I know.

605
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: I was like, it's not gonna last forever.

606
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: It's nice weear, but if I make it to the finals,

607
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: We've only got four more weeks, Adler, and he was

608
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: like he was very upset.

609
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Oh that's far. The mom guilt is

610
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: so real.

611
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: Yes, it really is.

612
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: Once you win your first Mirror Ball trophy, does the

613
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: pressure lesson or do you have like a taste for

614
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: blood now and you just want to keep winning another one?

615
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: Oh goodness. I got to think back to when I

616
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: first won. I feel like you can kind of take

617
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: a deep breath a little bit. You can kind of

618
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: be like, Okay, I feel like I've proven myself a

619
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: little bit, I can win, and now it's just kind

620
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: of I think it was interesting what you said take

621
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: the wins in different ways, like, and I think that

622
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: that is the mentality you have to have because not

623
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: everyone can win, and it's not really about the pros

624
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: winning anyway, So it's not really about us winning our wins.

625
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: Like I feel like with Danny last season, not Daniella,

626
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: but with my danny E Minola, it was more about

627
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 3: like you know, the viral stuff like on social media,

628
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: and like that was like our in our own way,

629
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: like our win, you know, like for us, like that's

630
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: what we were trying to really push because we knew

631
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: like there were some crazy good dancers, so like we are,

632
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: we're not gonna win, so let's let's do our thing.

633
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: Let's try and win in different ways. And I think

634
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: that's how you have to think on this show. But

635
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: after I won the first time, I feel like that

636
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: was kind of the mentality. So each somebody after that

637
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 3: was like, well, how can I make him look good?

638
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: And how can I make us go as far as

639
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: we can? And I think at the beginning you can

640
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: kind of tell if you have a winner or not,

641
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 3: like kind of you can tell. You can be like

642
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: maybe not a winner, but you can tell if you're

643
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: gonna make it to the finals. And then there's obviously

644
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: that dark horse where people don't really know. But I

645
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: think every season I have a pretty good intuition. So

646
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: I mean with Milo, I thought, really we had it. Yeah,

647
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: that was the only one where my intuition was not right.

648
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: Did you were you just as shocked by that finale

649
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: as everyone else.

650
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, but at the same time, looking back, looking

651
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 3: back at the time now, but looking back, you know,

652
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: Milo was so young and we did not have TikTok,

653
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: so we did not have that that younger viewership that

654
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: we have now. And I do believe if we had

655
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 3: that younger viewership, we probably would have won. But because

656
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: Bobby was so popular with that demographic. But that, I mean,

657
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: it makes sense looking back.

658
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: Now, why that right, Yeah, you're right, that younger demographic.

659
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: You don't think about that that like, before the age

660
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: of social media and really getting to get this younger

661
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: generation hooked on the show. That that wasn't his youth,

662
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: which would be such an asset now, was actually a

663
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: detriment back then, right.

664
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 3: Like if I think if I you know, if he

665
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: did the show right now, I think hands down he

666
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 3: would he would win. He would take it. And it's

667
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: just the timing of it all. But honestly, we talk

668
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 3: about it all the time, Milo and I it actually

669
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 3: did us good, didn't win because now it's so talked about,

670
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: which you know, we'll take it, we'll take it.

671
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it really is finding wins in other

672
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: ways that like that really was the win, you know,

673
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: the win was in that situation that everyone for years

674
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: since has been like talk about a robbery.

675
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: Talk about exactly. Yes, And I remember the first who

676
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: was it that? Do you remember Chelsea High Tower? Yes,

677
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: for the first pros. I remember her telling me celebrate

678
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: in the small successes. So like every if they point

679
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: their toe on a certain count, that celebrate, celebrate that, right,

680
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: So like I kind of had that mentality throughout the

681
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: years of just like celebrating those moments.

682
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: Yes, well that it's a perfect transition into our buddy

683
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: Robert Irwin. I remember after Week one, a dance that

684
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: I think goes down in the show's Hall of fame

685
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: for Week ones. I saw you at rehearsal and I

686
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: told you, guys, how thought how much I just how

687
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: magical I thought it was, And you mentioned how hard

688
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: it was going to be to continue that trajectory. Were

689
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: you nervous coming off a dance that Derek said might

690
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: be the best Week one performance ever?

691
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 3: Yes, I was very nervous. I mean I think we

692
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 3: were the thing about that Week one and I think

693
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 3: about the thing about Robert Irwin coming in after Bendy.

694
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: Bendy was so beloved and she obviously won, and now

695
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: her brother coming in and the Irwin family is just.

696
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: A trus Yes, yes, yes they are. There are royal family.

697
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: They are They're not even American, but there are somehow

698
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: there are a royal family, yep.

699
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 3: And they deserve all of it. But it was a

700
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: lot of pressure for us because that first week, so

701
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 3: we were like, my mentality was like, just do the

702
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: absolute best that you can do, Like I'm not holding

703
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 3: anything back. I'm just gonna push, push, push, And you know,

704
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 3: normally I feel like I would maybe hold some things

705
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 3: back week one, maybe I wouldn't, you know, go as

706
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 3: strong as I did. But because we had this pressure

707
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: my mentality and we had so much time that it

708
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: kind of just that's kind of just what it was.

709
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: So we just we pulled out all the stops on

710
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: that week one, and I think Derek saying that it

711
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: was the best he's ever seen was great, but it

712
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: also hindered us just a little bit because after that,

713
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: people had an expectation every single week, So of course

714
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: we had that pressure, and but I think that's what

715
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: makes the show so beautiful and our journey so beautiful.

716
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 3: Is it kind of did this? Yeah, people love to

717
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: root for that. People will love to root for you

718
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: when you do go down, and they need, you know,

719
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: a hero story, they need an arc. So like if

720
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: we stayed there the whole time, I don't know if

721
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: the you know, our journey would be the same and

722
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: the same outcome, you know. So I think that it

723
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: all played out to how it was supposed to do.

724
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 3: But lots of pressure, definitely, But I love what Robert

725
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: always says is pressure is a privilege. So that's our mentality.

726
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: We were like, this is a privilege to match that,

727
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 3: try and match that. And obviously each I mean, you know,

728
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 3: because you've done it, Each style is different. You have

729
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: weaknesses and strengths within each style, and Robert's strength was jive,

730
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,959
Speaker 3: like he is the jive King. So anything after that

731
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 3: was a big challenge. And what you what everyone saw

732
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 3: on the live show was hours and hours and hours

733
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: of of you know, training, And I really realized that

734
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: after we did the team dance. Did you were at

735
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: the team dance, right? You did your other team? But

736
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 3: I realized that really it was very apparent when we

737
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 3: did the team dance because I was watching Alex Earl

738
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 3: and Robert side by side learn the same things. Yeah,

739
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: and her hit the position immediately, and with Robert it

740
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 3: took a long time to get there. And I think

741
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 3: that's the difference when you have dance experience versus when

742
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 3: you don't and you don't so it, I mean it.

743
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: Took and I was wit next to Whitney.

744
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: Levitt exactly exact so you got it.

745
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, oh, okay, yeah, but.

746
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: You have to you have to work that much harder,

747
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: in which I wish people would have seen in the

748
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 3: packages a little bit more grind like. It's a grind

749
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 3: like if you don't know how to put your hip

750
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: to the left and put your arms straight like immediately,

751
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: like it takes some time.

752
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: It takes some time, and you look like a baby

753
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: deer just you're like.

754
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 2: And so the fact that where you start.

755
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: On day one and some time even in the middle

756
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: of day two, compared to like, oh my gosh, only

757
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: a week later, here we are with what we put

758
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: out in front.

759
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: Of millions of people.

760
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: Live you don't if you're only there a small period

761
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: of time or you're not really committing, it's not.

762
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 2: Going to look great. But it but with the hours

763
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: and hours and hours and hours in the grind, I.

764
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: Know, then yeah, then that's what people see. And and

765
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: that's the other thing too. With the week one, we

766
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: had three weeks to prepare versus five. Yep, that was

767
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: also I mean, if we had three weeks for every dance,

768
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 3: like we.

769
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: Got it like unbelievable, exactly. I know, And I remember

770
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: those first three weeks because I know there were a

771
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: lot of people that had already then learned their second

772
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: week during those three weeks, and we talked about what

773
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: we were going to do. We did like a little

774
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: bit of it, but I think, you know, Pasha didn't

775
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: know me well enough at that point, and I think

776
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: he was worried that if we'd learned too much of

777
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: that second week things for this first week, we're going

778
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: to fall out. And also like you don't really know

779
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: what your celebrity is gonna be like at that first

780
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: live show until you have your first live show.

781
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: You can do run throughs and you can do show

782
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: and tells.

783
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: But like the night of that live show is a

784
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: you can't prepare for it, No, you can't.

785
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 3: And I think the pros are just as nervous as

786
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 3: the celebrities on that one because, like you said, the

787
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 3: like what do you crack under pressure? Do you live

788
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: under pressure? Like we don't know. Are you gonna forget

789
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: everything that we can hit the last three weeks? Yeah,

790
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 3: So it was very telling when Robert came alive, like

791
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: he comes alive like with when the cameras are on,

792
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: and so that for me, I was like, Okay, I

793
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: can take a deep breath now, like he's he's good

794
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: with pressure, which you don't get that a lot.

795
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, what was your connection to him?

796
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: Like right from the beginning, so many people felt like

797
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: they saw you guys as like a big sister little

798
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: brother relationship.

799
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: Did it feel like that at day one?

800
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: It honestly did like it honestly really did. He. I

801
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: met him when he was eleven, when Bindy did the show,

802
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 3: So it felt very much like someone that I already knew.

803
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: And obviously I didn't have a chance to really get

804
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: to know him when he was there with Bindy, just

805
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 3: because you know, we were all in our own worlds.

806
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 3: But when he showed up and he walked in, he

807
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: was just so excited and I could tell he was

808
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: really nervous. Yeah, I mean he Robert doesn't really get nervous,

809
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: but the energy, I just felt like a little bit

810
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 3: more nervous energy. And I felt instantly like I wanted

811
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: to like shield him and like him. And I think

812
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 3: because because I am a mom now and like him

813
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: being so young, and you know, I have two boys,

814
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 3: and I immediately wanted to just protect him and be

815
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 3: like it's fine, you're good, I've got you. We got this,

816
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: like we're so and it was just the energy was

817
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: so infectious and it was it just felt really warm,

818
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 3: and it felt really really good. And then I started

819
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: doing a few like kicks and flicks with him because

820
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: I knew our first dance with Jives. I was like, Okay,

821
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: we're going to test this out a little bit. And

822
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 3: I was like, what have you been doing for three months?

823
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: Because you got announced? Yeah, now are you taking dance?

824
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 3: Were you taking dance lessons this whole time? And he

825
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: had done none of it? I'm like, why wouldn't you

826
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: do something?

827
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 4: Hello?

828
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 3: Anyway, So we were starting from ground zero, but he

829
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 3: learned so quickly that I was like, Okay, that's a

830
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: really good sign that his agility was really good. He

831
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 3: was very athletic and he was able to learn quickly,

832
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: which is exactly what I was looking for. So I'm like,

833
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: even if you don't have dance experience, if you can

834
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 3: learn pretty quickly and keep it retained, yep, that's going

835
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 3: to be really important. So that's what I was kind

836
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: of looking for with that one. But immediate connection, immediate

837
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: like protectiveness.

838
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: At one point, you jokingly wanted to play matchmaker for Robert,

839
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: the planet's most eligible bachelor, and then your inbox was.

840
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: Attacked with dms.

841
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: Can you give me a little bit of the vibe

842
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: of maybe some of the messages you were receiving?

843
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what started out as like a really

844
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: big joke, it started becoming very real for every girl

845
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 3: in America and Australia. So somehow my email was getting

846
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: leaked and I was getting emails of applications, I was

847
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 3: getting DMS, I was getting text messages. People really did

848
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 3: their detective work with my email.

849
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 4: Oh but some of them were really sweet and like amazing,

850
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: Like some of these girls really just want to meet Robert,

851
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 4: and like I don't blame them, I don't blame them

852
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 4: at all for shooting their shot.

853
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, but a lot of them were just a full

854
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: explanation that they love animals and they're really good. I mean,

855
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: they're great girls, but it just became so overwhelming for

856
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: me that I was like, Guys, I can't focus on

857
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 3: I'm trying to win a competition, like I can't Matchmaker

858
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 3: right now, Robert, you're on your own. And Bendy was like, yeah,

859
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 3: thank goodness, I have someone to help me with this, because.

860
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure that happens to her too.

861
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: Yes, So we've kind of split the load there, but

862
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, Robert, you're on your own now. I'm gonna

863
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 3: let you handle that well.

864
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: Another big discussion this past season involved the online discourse.

865
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: A lot of very passionate fandoms were participating, and social

866
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: media played a much bigger role on the show than

867
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: it ever has before. The word toxic was thrown around

868
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: quite a lot. Did it affect you and Robert at all?

869
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: Not really. I feel like Robert and I are very

870
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: much in the same person as far as like comments

871
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 3: online and feeding into the negativity. We're just not by nature,

872
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 3: we're not negative people, and so we don't like that

873
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: energy at all. So anything negative it kind of bounced

874
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: right off of us, and we kind of focused on

875
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 3: what we were doing. I mean, we're all human, and

876
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: obviously sometimes I would read it and it would hurt

877
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: my feelings a little bit, but I wouldn't let it

878
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: affect me. If anything, my personality being a dancer and

879
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: getting critiqued so much, that's that was my whole life.

880
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: It was getting critiqued. It was fixed, fix your head,

881
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: fix your fix, fix fix fixed. So for me, critiques,

882
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 3: constructive criticism I love and I actually take that and

883
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 3: it motivates me. If it's just nasty and mean, I

884
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: don't really care. I don't really care. It kind of

885
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 3: bounces right off of me. But I know a lot

886
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 3: of people. I mean, I feel like Robert and I

887
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: were lucky enough to not get as much as some

888
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: of the other couples did. Like I felt like Whitney

889
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 3: and my thought a lot, and that would be very

890
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: very hard to deal with if I was getting that

891
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: every single day. And she is a tough she's a

892
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: tough woman, Like that's that's very very hard to do

893
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 3: when you're getting you know, such negative, hateful comments every

894
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 3: single day. And I think people need to realize that

895
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 3: we're all human, we're all trying to do, you know,

896
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: the best that we can. So I do feel bad

897
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: for some of the couples that really got it, yeah, badly,

898
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 3: But I didn't. We definitely didn't feed into it, and

899
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: we would definitely if there was anything negative, we would

900
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 3: just swipe, or we would just not read it or

901
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: you know, kind of protect our peace, I think, because

902
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 3: it's it's mentally challenging already enough as it is.

903
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: You know, yes, absolutely, I feel very much the same way.

904
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: I'm also just not a negative person, and so if

905
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: there is some of it out there, I really try

906
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: to just go, oh.

907
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 3: Okay, did you feel did you feel like you got

908
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 3: any at all?

909
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 2: No? Not nothing. Nothing.

910
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: That was just straight up nasty people being you know,

911
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: people saying whether or not they thought I could dance

912
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: or critical or whatever. Sure, but like people just being

913
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: nasty to me. No, I really was spared. And and

914
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: like you said, some people were not spared.

915
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: That, and and that would be that would be very hard.

916
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 2: But very hard.

917
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: Looking back on your partners, Milo excluded, is there someone

918
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: that sticks out as a competitor who deserved a longer run?

919
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 3: Kind of thing? Packed all my partners I've had, so

920
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: many deserved a longer run. I'm trying to think. I

921
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 3: feel like all of the partners that I feel like

922
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 3: had potential all made it to the finale. Okay, I

923
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 3: do feel like with von Miller, I feel like those

924
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 3: that's one season that I kind of looked back at

925
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 3: and wish I would have tried a lot harder. And

926
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 3: not that I didn't and not that I didn't put

927
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 3: my best effort forward. I just wish I would have

928
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: had him in the last few years to really give it.

929
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: You know, I know a lot more, I'm a lot

930
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: more experienced, and I feel like I could really because

931
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: he was so strong and so athletic. I do feel

932
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 3: like I could give it a better a better season

933
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 3: if I had him in the last few years, for sure.

934
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 3: So that's kind of one season that I go, I

935
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 3: regret a.

936
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: Little bit, right, You wish you knew then what you know.

937
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 3: Now exactly, And that's that's hard, right, Like everyone kind

938
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: of does that. But I think that's one specific because

939
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 3: he just had come from the Super Bowl, he was

940
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: MVP Super Bowl champ and there were a lot of

941
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 3: expectations on us and I really I had just gotten married,

942
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 3: so I feel like I was very much in this

943
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: marriage bubble and you know it's hard, it's hard to

944
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 3: balance all of that, but I really feel like I

945
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 3: wish I would have given it a little bit more.

946
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: I totally get that you are a mom of two,

947
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: as we've mentioned, and you look absolutely incredible. I think

948
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: a lot of listeners, including myself, want your tips and tricks.

949
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: So let's talk about Finesse. Tell me about it. Tell

950
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: me about your app. Why did you create it?

951
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: I want to know everything.

952
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 3: Oh, you're so sweet, Thank you. It's actually been a

953
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 3: passion project of mine for many years. As like I

954
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 3: grew up, I really realized that like a lot of

955
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 3: dancers don't have the accessibility of really good mentors and trainers,

956
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 3: and people either can't afford it, or they don't have

957
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 3: teachers close by, or they don't have studios close by.

958
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 3: And so this was kind of a project for us

959
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: that can be accessible and affordable to anyone that wants

960
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: to learn ballroom dance and wants to learn from me

961
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: specifically and have and learn choreography that I do on

962
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 3: the show. And also we have some workouts on there

963
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 3: as well, so if you're looking to dance and get

964
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 3: some cardio and move your body, there's workouts in there,

965
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: and then if you're wanting to learn just the basics

966
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: and choreography, there's also a lot of options on there

967
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 3: as well. So it really started as like a passion

968
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: project that really anybody can access. And it's been really

969
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 3: well received and we're so so excited about it, and

970
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 3: it's been really fun. It's been really fun to kind

971
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: of give back to a dance community that's given me

972
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 3: so much and and I you know, I'm so grateful

973
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: for my childhood and having great mentors, so I just

974
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: really wanted to make sure that everybody had that accessibility.

975
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: I love that. I'm gonna I'm going to join, by

976
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: the way, Yes you need to, It's so yes, I will.

977
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the chase. After something like

978
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: season thirty four basically winning the show's super Bowl, do

979
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: you plan on returning to the show and defending the title?

980
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 3: It's oh my goodness, he's hitting.

981
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: Me with the hard, hard hitting questions.

982
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 3: I know everyone's uh, not everyone, but you know, people

983
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 3: are asking me, They're like, please don't retire, and I'm like,

984
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 3: it's it's a hard it's a hard decision, right because

985
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: it's a show that I love very much and it's

986
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 3: been so much part of me and I've mentioned that

987
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: so many times, and it's had kind of a resurgence,

988
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 3: and it's beautiful that people are giving dancers a platform

989
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 3: and us this opportunity to share what we love so much.

990
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 3: TBD to be.

991
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: DEBD, I mean, how could you top Robert. That's the

992
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: hardest parts.

993
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 3: That's the hardest part. That's the hardest part. But like

994
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 3: you said, it's it's not every season about winning the

995
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 3: Mirror Ball, right, Like, it's not. That's not necessarily what

996
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 3: it's about. You can find your own experience and your

997
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 3: own growth and your own successes without winning the Mirror Ball.

998
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 3: So and you know, I don't I don't expect to

999
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: win again. But actually, Dina just text me the other

1000
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 3: day She's like, you're not pregnant, right, And I'm like, oh, gonness.

1001
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 3: So we're kind of we're kind of tossing it up

1002
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 3: because you know, my youngest is too and we want

1003
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 3: more children, and you know, unfortunately it's kind of the

1004
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: timing of it all, so it's like, do we have

1005
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 3: a baby? Ye, go back to the show. So we're

1006
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 3: kind of okay. I mean that so TBD. TBD, honestly,

1007
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 3: my honest, honest response to that.

1008
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate the honesty. I am about to embark

1009
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: on a wild adventure. I'm doing the Dancing with the

1010
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: Stars Live tour. You have participated in the past, and

1011
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: you'll be coming for some special dates with Robert on

1012
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: this live tour as well.

1013
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: What should I expect?

1014
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 3: What?

1015
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: The fact that we have to do our own hair

1016
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: and makeup is traumatizing me.

1017
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 3: It's actually it's actually great because you have you get

1018
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 3: to explore some amazing in the country, and you know

1019
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 3: what we don't get to do on camera or on

1020
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 3: the show is to really meet the fans who have

1021
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 3: voted for week after week after week. And that's the

1022
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 3: best part. That's the best part of meeting the fans

1023
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 3: and being able to give them something that you know

1024
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 3: that they want and that they love, and that is

1025
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 3: performing and spreading joy and like you know, then they're

1026
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 3: so excited and it's just it's an amazing full circle

1027
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 3: moment where you're like, Okay, this is why I do

1028
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: what I do. You know, I really feel the love

1029
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: and the energy in each theater, and I love that

1030
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 3: they do theaters now because it used to the arenas

1031
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 3: and it was just it wasn't intimate. So this book

1032
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 3: very intimate. And you have you ever done live performances

1033
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 3: like on Broadway or anything, or.

1034
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: Never have done Broadway, but for we've done a podcast

1035
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: live tour.

1036
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 3: And you know, Okay, so you know how that feels.

1037
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 3: And I think you're gonna you're gonna be way more

1038
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 3: laxed because no one's judging you. They well, they love

1039
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 3: you for you and for what you can offer, and

1040
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: that's that's amazing to them. So they're they're gonna be

1041
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 3: so excited. It's gonna be chill. I mean, nobody's be

1042
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 3: judging you. Honestly, you could go out just like that,

1043
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 3: like I would just do natural makeup and just have

1044
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 3: my hair like this and do the costumes and okay, fun,

1045
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 3: it's so fun. You're gonna don't stress about it. Honestly,

1046
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 3: it's it's it's a blast.

1047
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm really looking forward to it. How do you

1048
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 1: pack to be gone for so long?

1049
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 3: Like?

1050
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: Do you just bring warm sweatsuits? I'm gone through the winter.

1051
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,479
Speaker 1: I'm doing all the January February dates.

1052
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 3: Okay, are you gonna be on the East coast then yes?

1053
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 3: Or yes? Yeah? I mean, I would just plan on

1054
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 3: loungey where plant like a few things that you can

1055
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 3: explore the city, because it's really fun to go do

1056
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 3: that and do kind of the touristy things in the

1057
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 3: city and then you perform and then you go to

1058
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 3: bed and you hang out with everyone and it's it's

1059
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 3: really so how many dates are you doing?

1060
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 2: I'm doing twenty eight shows?

1061
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so exciting. Yeah. No, I would just

1062
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 3: pack light because hugging lugging that suitcase in and out

1063
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 3: of the bus and into the venue. Make sure you

1064
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 3: have like a little carry on so you have like

1065
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 3: your makeup, your toilet stuff, and your shower stuff, so

1066
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 3: that you can just take that little carry on into

1067
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 3: the venue. Great, I mean, so just like do that

1068
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 3: so you don't have to get your whole big suitcase out. Okay,

1069
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 3: just a little carry on and then just have fun.

1070
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 3: I'm I'm jealous you're doing that many dates, like I

1071
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: would love to do that. How are your boys staying home?

1072
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: They're staying home, but my husband is going to bring

1073
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: them out for about a week, So I'm going to

1074
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: be gone for two weeks. Then they're going to come

1075
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: out and join me for a week. Then when they

1076
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: go home, I'll only have one week left.

1077
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 3: Perfect. See that's perfect. Yeah, my kids are coming. We're

1078
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 3: doing an RV, so we're renting an RV. It's so great,

1079
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 3: and they're just doing city to city with me because

1080
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 3: I yeah, and like we've done the whole bus thing

1081
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 3: before where I actually had my contract the last time

1082
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 3: I did tour that Carson had a bunk. Great, actually

1083
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 3: had his own bunk with me, and so that was

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Speaker 3: really fun. But you'll have a blast, You'll you'll have

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Speaker 3: so much fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it and I'm going to have

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Speaker 1: to pick one of your and Robert states I want

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Speaker 1: to come and watch when you guys are there, so.

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Speaker 3: Me too, I think I swear we do la but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you do.

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Speaker 1: You're you're more of the local ones I think. Also,

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Speaker 1: are you Vegas too?

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Speaker 3: Vegas too?

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Speaker 2: Okay? And will you be at the Irwin Gala on

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Speaker 2: September on May third? Yes, me too, I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good Bank reunion, Yes, Okay, great, I'm really looking

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Speaker 1: forward to it. Whitney, thank you so much for spending

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Speaker 1: your time with me. Have the best time in Australia.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to want all the details. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: make sure you have my phone number so we can text.

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Speaker 1: But when you get back, I want to know everything

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Speaker 1: about it. I want to hear all the details. I

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Speaker 1: want to see family pictures. I adore you and just

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Speaker 1: loved my time with you this past season and think

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for spreading your light and sharing

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Speaker 1: it with all of us here today.

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Speaker 3: You are the best. Thank you for having me. Love you,

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Speaker 3: Love you ma.

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Speaker 4: Bye, okay bye.

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Speaker 1: Danielle with the Stars Produced and hosted by Danielle Fischel.

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Speaker 1: Executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge

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Speaker 1: of production Danielle Romo, producer, editor and engineer Tara Sudbosch.

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