WEBVTT - Second Date Update: Gammy's Bar Crawl 0:00:00.220 --> 0:00:03.040 All right, big thanks to everyone who's here. We appreciate you. 0:00:03.140 --> 0:00:05.420 It's Brooke and Jeffrey, and you found the official second 0:00:05.460 --> 0:00:08.380 date podcast. Before we get into our brand new episode, 0:00:08.460 --> 0:00:10.610 we do always love to highlight your comments. 0:00:10.820 --> 0:00:14.150 Yes, and this one said, I saw Jeff in my dream. 0:00:14.170 --> 0:00:18.050 I swear it wasn't what you think. He was so quiet, 0:00:18.130 --> 0:00:20.610 and I told my friend, and I said... he's known 0:00:20.650 --> 0:00:23.209 as the awkward one in the show. As if I've 0:00:23.230 --> 0:00:24.870 known him my whole life. 0:00:25.350 --> 0:00:27.230 Well, just a dream. 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:29.680 Dude, somebody once told me, what do they call him? 0:00:29.700 --> 0:00:32.700 They were like, yeah, the show with Brooke and who's 0:00:32.740 --> 0:00:34.720 the quiet one? I think it was the quiet one. 0:00:34.740 --> 0:00:36.440 I'm like, he's the lead. 0:00:36.460 --> 0:00:40.180 That's Jeffrey, the quiet one. 0:00:40.300 --> 0:00:40.729 I love it. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:42.940 Keep your comments coming. We got a brand new episode 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:43.640 starting right now. 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:45.660 Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:47.019 Second date update. 0:00:48.670 --> 0:00:52.510 We've heard that guys, even attractive looking ones, sometimes on 0:00:52.530 --> 0:00:55.580 the dating sites, can go weeks and end up with 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:59.410 zero matches. But what about the flip side of that? 0:00:59.740 --> 0:01:03.430 What happens when an attractive woman is getting matches, but 0:01:03.450 --> 0:01:06.470 the dudes that she's linking up with always flake on her? 0:01:06.569 --> 0:01:09.130 Those are probably the same dudes that are complaining about 0:01:09.170 --> 0:01:09.809 not having matches. 0:01:10.250 --> 0:01:11.710 That's probably right. 0:01:11.870 --> 0:01:14.130 At that point, she needs to change up her game plan, 0:01:14.650 --> 0:01:17.789 spice things up a little, do something new to find 0:01:17.830 --> 0:01:19.550 herself a different type of guy. 0:01:19.709 --> 0:01:20.429 Okay. 0:01:20.450 --> 0:01:23.240 And that's what one of our listeners, Ava, did. She 0:01:23.380 --> 0:01:26.580 changed up her dating profile and thinks she may have 0:01:26.620 --> 0:01:30.479 finally met the right kind of man, but he's not 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.900 calling her back now. Oh, wait. 0:01:32.940 --> 0:01:34.220 Hold on. 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.380 Well, I mean, the difference here is that they actually 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:38.839 went out. The other guys never even showed up. 0:01:38.900 --> 0:01:40.429 But now, then she messed it up. 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:41.550 Then something went wrong. 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:42.929 In person. Different problem. 0:01:43.470 --> 0:01:45.410 Ava, welcome to the show. Hi. 0:01:45.450 --> 0:01:46.690 Thank you for having me. 0:01:46.970 --> 0:01:49.110 I'm so curious. What kind of guy were you hoping 0:01:49.130 --> 0:01:49.650 to match with? 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:53.700 I just thought like somebody fun kind of down for whatever. 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.980 I mean, in the past, there's just been so many flakes. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.420 I feel like you book a day. It doesn't happen. 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.520 OK, the bar is so low. It's just someone who 0:02:01.580 --> 0:02:03.540 shows up. Yeah. 0:02:03.620 --> 0:02:05.360 Even that that's expecting a lot. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.299 I guess it sounds bad that way. OK, OK. 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:10.339 So tell us about what you did. You said you 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.340 changed your dating profile when you wrote your email. What 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:13.720 did you do? 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:16.660 Yeah, I thought I had to juice up my profile, 0:02:16.700 --> 0:02:20.139 make myself sound a little more fun. So I said, 0:02:20.580 --> 0:02:22.920 who's up for a bar crawl? I'm up for making 0:02:22.980 --> 0:02:24.100 questionable decisions. 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:25.100 Oh, goodness. 0:02:25.180 --> 0:02:27.700 Oh, wow. I love that vibe. I used to do 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.540 that all the time. Jose and I both swiped right 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:30.060 on that profile. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:30.300 Yeah. 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.380 I mean, 10 years ago, yeah. But you're getting the 0:02:33.419 --> 0:02:35.960 guys then that aren't looking for a second date. But 0:02:35.980 --> 0:02:37.680 they're showing up, Brooke. 0:02:37.740 --> 0:02:38.680 Right. 0:02:38.820 --> 0:02:40.060 I mean, I got a lot of responses. 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:41.180 Okay, done. 0:02:41.340 --> 0:02:41.700 Yeah. 0:02:41.780 --> 0:02:44.989 Yeah. Were any of them quality responses? 0:02:45.850 --> 0:02:48.730 Yeah, well, there was this one guy named Dean. And 0:02:48.790 --> 0:02:51.380 I thought he was really cute. And he told me 0:02:51.419 --> 0:02:54.180 that he'd never had a bar crawl since college. 0:02:54.870 --> 0:02:55.390 Okay. 0:02:55.410 --> 0:02:58.350 Yeah, it's typically like when you do it, eventually the 0:02:58.370 --> 0:02:58.870 hangover sucks. 0:02:58.889 --> 0:03:00.550 You call him a loser and unblock him. 0:03:01.850 --> 0:03:02.329 Okay. 0:03:02.830 --> 0:03:04.130 Yeah, he agreed to do one. 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:04.760 I mean, it was fun. 0:03:04.820 --> 0:03:07.040 I mean, we were planning it for a while, actually. 0:03:07.540 --> 0:03:09.139 And there are a lot of quirky bars near where 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.059 I live. So I thought maybe I can show them 0:03:11.100 --> 0:03:12.780 around to a few of them. 0:03:12.820 --> 0:03:14.100 So what was on the, can I ask, what was 0:03:14.150 --> 0:03:17.500 on the bar crawl itinerary? Like, what was the plan? Yeah, 0:03:17.540 --> 0:03:19.549 the first one, it was a tiki bar. 0:03:19.570 --> 0:03:21.730 So, you know, it was like, it felt like we. 0:03:21.650 --> 0:03:23.470 Were, yeah, tropical. 0:03:23.570 --> 0:03:26.630 There was a DJ and there were little umbrellas on 0:03:26.970 --> 0:03:27.710 the drinks. 0:03:28.190 --> 0:03:30.809 I can already tell you're mixing a lot of sugary drinks. 0:03:30.830 --> 0:03:33.330 Those drinks are never as good as they look. 0:03:33.350 --> 0:03:35.210 Yeah, I don't know if you should, like, trust a 0:03:35.250 --> 0:03:36.410 cocktail that's bright blue. 0:03:36.430 --> 0:03:37.930 And, like, smoky. 0:03:39.250 --> 0:03:39.850 Okay. 0:03:39.890 --> 0:03:40.570 And that was fun. 0:03:40.610 --> 0:03:41.580 That was a good one. 0:03:42.460 --> 0:03:44.640 Vibes were good at the tiki place. What was next? 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:46.720 The next place was a speakeasy. 0:03:47.210 --> 0:03:50.270 That's always fun. I mean, even though it's not illegal anymore, 0:03:50.290 --> 0:03:51.750 it's still fun to find. Where's the handle? 0:03:52.010 --> 0:03:55.430 How do you get in? What's the secret passcode? Yeah, 0:03:55.470 --> 0:03:56.150 and it was hidden. 0:03:56.190 --> 0:03:58.010 It was like totally hidden. So I thought that this 0:03:58.030 --> 0:04:00.170 would be a little bit more mysterious, kind of like 0:04:00.210 --> 0:04:01.530 a level up from the Tiki bar. 0:04:01.550 --> 0:04:02.900 Yeah, and you don't want to do that at bar 0:04:02.970 --> 0:04:04.810 six because you'll never be able to find how to enter. 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:09.400 Or leave. We'd never get home, yeah. But we also 0:04:09.420 --> 0:04:10.940 planned one, the one after that, I have to tell 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:12.700 you about this one, it was a robot arm that 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:14.600 makes drinks and serves. 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:14.720 Them to you. 0:04:14.740 --> 0:04:16.839 So I thought we had like a really fun night planned. 0:04:16.860 --> 0:04:19.320 Dude, wow, that's an amazing. 0:04:18.779 --> 0:04:21.540 Array of bars. Can I ask, are you a sloppy drunk? 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:22.479 Do you know that. 0:04:22.300 --> 0:04:24.990 Ahead of time? She's looking to hang out with you, 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:25.690 depending on your answer. 0:04:25.710 --> 0:04:26.950 I can just imagine how I would be with a 0:04:26.970 --> 0:04:29.570 guy at this point, but I'm curious how you would be. 0:04:29.970 --> 0:04:33.150 I don't want to be, but sometimes if I am 0:04:33.190 --> 0:04:36.910 drinking the wrong things, I think I get a little sloppy. 0:04:37.029 --> 0:04:38.229 Okay. 0:04:38.270 --> 0:04:41.210 So did you go to all three bars? No, we didn't. 0:04:41.250 --> 0:04:42.750 Well, speaking of being, yeah, we didn't make it. 0:04:42.770 --> 0:04:45.920 Oh, you didn't make it to the robot bar? 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:47.420 It's not because of what you think. 0:04:47.460 --> 0:04:48.920 It's not because I was sloppy, I promise. 0:04:49.020 --> 0:04:52.000 Robots cut you off. What was it because of? 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:55.100 Well, no, what happened is that at the speakeasy, he 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.370 told me that he lived an hour away from Ooh, 0:04:58.470 --> 0:04:59.089 that's going to be. 0:04:59.029 --> 0:05:00.390 An expensive Uber ride. 0:05:00.430 --> 0:05:01.110 Yeah. 0:05:01.290 --> 0:05:03.190 But it gets worse because he told me, well, that's 0:05:03.230 --> 0:05:04.470 why I got a hotel room. 0:05:04.490 --> 0:05:04.550 Oh. 0:05:04.870 --> 0:05:07.349 Oh, is that a strategy? 0:05:07.529 --> 0:05:09.210 Is that why he got a hotel room or was 0:05:09.230 --> 0:05:10.530 it because of what your profile said? 0:05:10.550 --> 0:05:12.930 That's what I'm saying. Is that a strategy? 0:05:12.990 --> 0:05:14.610 But it made me think about that. I thought, why 0:05:14.650 --> 0:05:17.010 would he do that straight away? But then I thought 0:05:17.060 --> 0:05:20.140 about my profile and maybe he thought the questionable decisions, 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:21.540 it was kind of lock and key. 0:05:21.740 --> 0:05:22.880 Yeah. Yeah. 0:05:22.980 --> 0:05:24.940 And was that exciting to you or how did you 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:25.480 feel about that? 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.080 I wasn't sure what to do, honestly, for a second. 0:05:28.140 --> 0:05:30.900 But it was later at this point, too. The hotel 0:05:30.940 --> 0:05:33.080 was brought up. I didn't know what would make sense 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.370 if we just kept drinking. So, I mean, look, we. 0:05:36.270 --> 0:05:37.510 Did go back to his hotel. 0:05:37.529 --> 0:05:37.589 Oh. 0:05:37.589 --> 0:05:39.190 But we just talked. 0:05:39.230 --> 0:05:40.310 We, like, talked all night. 0:05:40.390 --> 0:05:41.490 We talked for a few hours. 0:05:41.510 --> 0:05:42.610 You only talked. 0:05:43.390 --> 0:05:43.630 What? 0:05:44.110 --> 0:05:45.110 I know. I know. I know. 0:05:45.130 --> 0:05:48.860 It's about the art on the walls, I'm sure. Yeah. 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:49.480 Hold on. 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:50.520 You didn't even make out? 0:05:50.540 --> 0:05:52.380 He kissed me on the cheek. 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:53.140 Whoa. 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:57.409 Whoa. Why whoa? 0:05:57.830 --> 0:06:00.490 I mean, if you're drinking with a guy, you're at 0:06:00.510 --> 0:06:01.950 a bar crawl and he's like, come back to my 0:06:02.010 --> 0:06:02.650 hotel room. 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.120 No one is thinking that just a kiss on the 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:06.000 cheek is going to happen. 0:06:06.180 --> 0:06:07.320 Maybe the guy was nervous. 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:09.440 A guy who gets a hotel room on a first 0:06:09.460 --> 0:06:10.740 date is not nervous, Jeff. 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:14.360 If it's his first hotel room. He doesn't know how 0:06:14.380 --> 0:06:15.860 to proceed. He's like, I don't want to fool around 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:19.100 too hard. I may lose the deposit. 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.920 When did you leave? The next morning or that night? 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.890 It was that night, but it was very late in 0:06:24.930 --> 0:06:27.109 the morning, but I didn't want to stay over. Yeah, 0:06:27.350 --> 0:06:30.250 because I didn't want to have that part happen. You know, 0:06:30.270 --> 0:06:31.969 I think I had to kind of draw the line somewhere. 0:06:31.990 --> 0:06:33.950 Also, they charge you extra if you have a guest 0:06:34.029 --> 0:06:35.770 in the room, so you have to leave by midnight. 0:06:35.850 --> 0:06:37.830 You get a kiss on the cheek and you're fully clothed. 0:06:37.850 --> 0:06:39.450 I don't think you need to be worried about anything 0:06:39.490 --> 0:06:40.130 at that point. 0:06:40.390 --> 0:06:41.470 So what's happened since then? 0:06:41.890 --> 0:06:44.930 Well, I texted him the next day and I said, hey, look, 0:06:44.950 --> 0:06:48.470 I had a great time. Last night, would you want 0:06:48.490 --> 0:06:51.450 to like see again, me again? But he's now, he 0:06:51.490 --> 0:06:52.870 hasn't replied to me at all. 0:06:53.010 --> 0:06:54.739 Ooh, that's weird. 0:06:55.060 --> 0:06:56.200 Yeah, I don't. 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.120 Know if maybe he just wanted me to come to 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:00.200 his hotel room the whole time. 0:07:00.650 --> 0:07:03.210 Yeah, that's weird. But you're saying that you didn't try anything. 0:07:03.770 --> 0:07:06.789 No, he just kissed me on the cheek. Yeah. That is, yeah. 0:07:06.830 --> 0:07:07.490 That's kind of lame. 0:07:07.550 --> 0:07:07.890 I know. 0:07:07.970 --> 0:07:10.410 What's wrong with this guy? We're going to ask him 0:07:10.450 --> 0:07:12.450 that exact question when we come back and get you 0:07:12.470 --> 0:07:15.120 your second date update right after this. Hold on. 0:07:15.180 --> 0:07:18.040 Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update. 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.240 If you're just joining us, this one's a little bit 0:07:22.420 --> 0:07:25.420 of a head scratcher because our listener Ava attracted a 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.500 guy to her dating profile by saying, Who's up for 0:07:28.540 --> 0:07:31.120 a bar crawl and making questionable decisions? 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:32.440 Yeah, Ava. 0:07:32.500 --> 0:07:36.710 Which, honestly, A plus. No notes on that, Ava. Well done. 0:07:37.170 --> 0:07:40.910 It's how she attracted a guy named Dean. They did 0:07:40.930 --> 0:07:42.990 at least a portion of that bar crawl together. 0:07:43.010 --> 0:07:45.190 I mean, nobody ever finishes a bar crawl, Jeff. Have 0:07:45.210 --> 0:07:45.950 you been on one? 0:07:46.070 --> 0:07:46.830 Such a good point. 0:07:46.850 --> 0:07:47.770 You don't get to the end. 0:07:47.870 --> 0:07:50.640 If you finished, you've done it wrong. But that's when 0:07:50.700 --> 0:07:54.360 Dean revealed that he already had a hotel room because 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:55.660 he lives an hour away. 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.060 Yeah, I'm sure that's the reason he got it. 0:07:57.390 --> 0:08:01.170 Maybe, yeah. Definitely seems a little presumptuous. But they did 0:08:01.210 --> 0:08:03.510 go to his hotel, hung out in his room for 0:08:03.550 --> 0:08:03.950 an hour. 0:08:03.970 --> 0:08:06.330 I thought that she was there longer than even an hour. Yeah, 0:08:06.450 --> 0:08:07.560 it sounds like a few hours. 0:08:07.770 --> 0:08:08.980 But not, she didn't stay the night. 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:09.760 No, she didn't. 0:08:09.860 --> 0:08:12.420 Is the point. Even Ava sounded a little disappointed when 0:08:12.500 --> 0:08:15.320 she told us. But ever since, Dean has been acting 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:19.240 even stranger, not really responding. So she's come to us asking, 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:20.640 what is going on? 0:08:20.660 --> 0:08:22.750 I think that maybe he just wanted to sleep with me. 0:08:23.220 --> 0:08:25.160 See, I don't think so. I think that he would 0:08:25.180 --> 0:08:25.760 have done more. 0:08:25.900 --> 0:08:29.090 I've never heard a guy ever just wanting that. Yeah. 0:08:29.130 --> 0:08:31.210 But what guy only goes in for a kiss on 0:08:31.250 --> 0:08:32.710 the cheek if that's what he wants? 0:08:32.730 --> 0:08:33.670 Like, he's the worst at. 0:08:33.690 --> 0:08:35.450 Yeah, well, that's what I don't know. 0:08:35.470 --> 0:08:35.970 I don't know. 0:08:37.020 --> 0:08:39.840 And if he still wanted to, like, he's already had 0:08:39.860 --> 0:08:41.439 a night with you. Why not have a second date 0:08:41.460 --> 0:08:41.800 with him? 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:42.640 Yeah, exactly. 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:44.830 Maybe because it's an hour away from his house and 0:08:44.850 --> 0:08:47.170 he can't afford all those hotel rooms. 0:08:47.210 --> 0:08:47.569 You're right. 0:08:47.630 --> 0:08:49.730 It's like 500 bucks for him every time he wants 0:08:49.750 --> 0:08:50.490 to hang out. 0:08:50.590 --> 0:08:52.050 I mean, I wish he would just tell me that. 0:08:52.250 --> 0:08:54.710 Let's get those answers for you right now. I'm going 0:08:54.730 --> 0:08:56.530 to dial his number. We'll see if he picks up 0:08:56.570 --> 0:08:58.370 and hopefully we can get everything answered. But here we go. 0:08:58.390 --> 0:08:58.490 Hello? 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:06.920 Hey, is this Dean? 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:09.780 Yes, this is Dean. Who's this? 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:11.540 Hey man, this is a radio show called Brooke and 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:12.300 Jeffrey in the morning. 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:12.980 Hi. 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:13.740 Good morning, Dean. 0:09:14.860 --> 0:09:15.699 What's the reason for the call? 0:09:16.179 --> 0:09:18.380 I think we got business Dean on the phone right now. 0:09:18.500 --> 0:09:18.920 I like it. 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:19.300 Yeah. 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.240 I'm a fan of business Dean. So let's just, we're 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.720 going to get right down to business Dean and tell 0:09:24.740 --> 0:09:27.020 you that this is called a second date update. It's 0:09:27.059 --> 0:09:29.420 a segment where you do, where we help our listeners. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.420 If they've ever gone out on a date with someone 0:09:31.460 --> 0:09:34.000 and they're not getting a call back afterwards, we can 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.459 reach out on their behalf. to see if there's a 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:41.020 reason why. Okay. That's the most business-like explanation I can 0:09:41.059 --> 0:09:44.580 give of it. This is an organized thing. Yeah. And 0:09:45.220 --> 0:09:47.870 the reason we're calling you is you went out with 0:09:47.900 --> 0:09:49.260 one of our listeners named Ava. 0:09:51.090 --> 0:09:51.490 Yes. 0:09:52.150 --> 0:09:55.030 Yes, I did. Hey, Bar Crawl Ava. 0:09:55.110 --> 0:09:56.429 I hear a smile on his face. 0:09:56.470 --> 0:09:57.530 I do too. 0:09:58.150 --> 0:10:00.480 Ava tells us that you have been... a little bit 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.120 more distant since the Bar Crawl. 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.100 More distant? He hasn't called her at all. Or texted. 0:10:05.179 --> 0:10:07.280 I think that still qualifies as more distant. 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:08.040 Very. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.760 So she's confused and doesn't know if she did something 0:10:11.830 --> 0:10:14.569 wrong or what's going on in her head. That's why 0:10:14.650 --> 0:10:14.950 we're here. 0:10:14.970 --> 0:10:15.190 Okay. 0:10:17.100 --> 0:10:20.160 Well, you know, she didn't do anything wrong. Actually, she's 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.219 a super fun, really, really nice girl. I actually kind 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:24.780 of feel bad. 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:26.219 That's good to hear. You do. 0:10:26.380 --> 0:10:28.730 When you showed up for the first bar, you were excited. 0:10:29.630 --> 0:10:30.829 Oh, yeah. 0:10:31.130 --> 0:10:32.929 She told you our date? 0:10:33.390 --> 0:10:33.850 Yeah. 0:10:33.870 --> 0:10:36.910 Yeah, we got the highlights of it. Some tiki bar action, 0:10:36.990 --> 0:10:38.150 speakeasy action. 0:10:38.190 --> 0:10:38.270 Yeah. 0:10:38.770 --> 0:10:40.240 And then I want to tell you about a moment 0:10:40.260 --> 0:10:43.199 that Ava revealed to us that was kind of interesting 0:10:43.700 --> 0:10:47.319 because this is a girl who's been drinking with you 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.589 for a few hours. She goes with you to your 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.630 hotel and there's a moment. 0:10:52.690 --> 0:10:55.290 Why are you laughing? 0:10:55.309 --> 0:10:56.150 She told you about the, okay. 0:10:56.470 --> 0:10:56.850 I'm sorry. 0:10:56.870 --> 0:10:59.010 She told you everything. Yeah, she did. And she said 0:10:59.030 --> 0:11:01.790 there was a moment where you got to maybe go 0:11:01.809 --> 0:11:04.300 in and kiss her and you went in for a 0:11:04.420 --> 0:11:08.199 peck on the cheek and, OK, for us, it seemed 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:09.260 a little odd. 0:11:09.580 --> 0:11:11.260 No, it just seemed anticlimactic. 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:11.600 Right. 0:11:11.980 --> 0:11:14.250 You get a hotel room, you're at a bar crawl 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.309 like most people would assume at least. 0:11:17.110 --> 0:11:18.429 A makeout session was going to happen. 0:11:18.470 --> 0:11:19.190 Yeah. 0:11:19.210 --> 0:11:21.590 So why just go in for a peck on the 0:11:21.630 --> 0:11:22.410 cheek at that point? 0:11:23.429 --> 0:11:26.210 Well, OK, so we had a lot of fun. We 0:11:26.250 --> 0:11:28.750 went back to the hotel and I mean, we just 0:11:28.790 --> 0:11:31.809 got deep in the conversation. It was awesome. Really connected. 0:11:31.830 --> 0:11:35.580 But then something kind of came up and it was 0:11:35.620 --> 0:11:37.770 just it was a huge turn off to me. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:43.100 Oh, like something in conversation made you not attracted to her. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.480 She's got eight kids. Actually, yeah. 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.559 Well, we were talking about nicknames growing up and things 0:11:48.580 --> 0:11:52.179 like that. And then she said she had a nickname, Gammy. 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.000 And I'm like, oh, that's funny. Like, where did that 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.640 come from? And then this is and this is the 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.230 first time I've ever heard of this. She's like, oh, well, 0:12:01.250 --> 0:12:05.579 you know, I have two kids and I'm now a grandma, 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.080 hence gammy. 0:12:08.410 --> 0:12:09.240 Oh, what? 0:12:09.420 --> 0:12:10.120 Whoa. 0:12:10.340 --> 0:12:13.960 She sounds like she's 25. We didn't ask her age, but... 0:12:13.940 --> 0:12:16.980 No way. Hey, don't judge. Where I come from, that's 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:17.540 pretty normal. 0:12:17.580 --> 0:12:20.059 Well, she said she had kids super young. 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:21.200 Yeah. 0:12:21.220 --> 0:12:23.050 And I don't have any kids. I don't know anything 0:12:23.090 --> 0:12:25.870 about that. And the fact that she's a grandmother, I mean, 0:12:25.890 --> 0:12:27.370 it just, I don't know, something in my body, it 0:12:27.429 --> 0:12:31.950 just froze up and... I kind of really just closed 0:12:31.990 --> 0:12:34.190 everything off. And I just kissed her on the cheek. 0:12:34.230 --> 0:12:35.290 And I was like, okay, well, you know. 0:12:35.309 --> 0:12:38.750 That is what you do to your grandma. 0:12:38.850 --> 0:12:40.910 I mean, but if she had a kid at 18 0:12:40.910 --> 0:12:42.740 and then her kid had a kid at 18, that's 0:12:42.740 --> 0:12:44.860 36 that she could have been a grandma at. 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:45.680 You know what I'm saying? 0:12:46.980 --> 0:12:50.380 I don't know if it's necessarily like an age question. 0:12:50.460 --> 0:12:53.300 It's more of like, where is she in her personal 0:12:53.340 --> 0:12:55.559 life versus where is he in his? Yeah, she's about 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:56.679 to retire and be at home. 0:12:56.740 --> 0:12:57.080 Okay, okay. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:02.130 What do you got against grandmas? I mean, why was 0:13:02.150 --> 0:13:02.950 that a turn off for you? 0:13:03.650 --> 0:13:05.970 Well, I mean, I don't even have any kids. So 0:13:05.990 --> 0:13:09.730 if we're going to date, like, I'm immediately like a grandpa. 0:13:09.990 --> 0:13:11.850 I can see that being a lot of information to 0:13:12.030 --> 0:13:13.530 intake after a night of drinking. 0:13:13.610 --> 0:13:16.340 Yeah, that's true. And not to overload you with even 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:21.100 more sudden information, but we do have grandma waiting on 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.860 hold right now, listening in on this conversation. 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:24.960 Okay, great. 0:13:25.020 --> 0:13:25.699 I mean, Gammy. 0:13:25.860 --> 0:13:26.220 Sorry. 0:13:27.500 --> 0:13:28.370 Yeah, Gammy's there. 0:13:29.050 --> 0:13:29.309 Gammy? 0:13:30.150 --> 0:13:31.609 Yeah, hi. 0:13:33.550 --> 0:13:35.130 Hi, Grandpa Gene. 0:13:35.590 --> 0:13:36.250 Oh, my gosh. 0:13:36.450 --> 0:13:37.729 I love that she's leaning into it. 0:13:37.730 --> 0:13:40.920 You know, I wish you just would have said something. 0:13:40.940 --> 0:13:43.760 Well, I think he wishes you would have said something earlier. 0:13:43.780 --> 0:13:43.959 Yeah. 0:13:46.850 --> 0:13:48.850 I didn't know what to say, honestly. And I didn't, 0:13:48.910 --> 0:13:51.130 I didn't want to be rude. I mean, I enjoyed 0:13:51.450 --> 0:13:53.829 hanging out with you. I mean, you're super fun. I just, 0:13:54.110 --> 0:13:56.329 I wish maybe you would have said something kind of 0:13:56.550 --> 0:13:58.810 while we were messaging each other before we met up. 0:13:58.870 --> 0:14:00.819 I mean, you know, it's, it's no, it's no big, 0:14:01.030 --> 0:14:04.260 I mean, it is a big deal just because we're. 0:14:03.420 --> 0:14:05.540 Getting to know each other. And, you know, for me, 0:14:11.050 --> 0:14:12.319 That's a lot of extra pressure. 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.380 And I just wanted to hang out with you because 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:16.900 you just seem fun and spontaneous. 0:14:17.020 --> 0:14:17.600 Yeah. 0:14:17.860 --> 0:14:20.140 I mean, grandmas can be spontaneous, too. 0:14:20.900 --> 0:14:22.020 Whoa. 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:26.090 How is that sexy? Pop my hip back in. 0:14:26.130 --> 0:14:27.050 What do you mean, Ava? 0:14:27.740 --> 0:14:29.420