1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Everybody. Welcome to another edition of the Dave Pash Podcast. 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm your host ESPN and Arizona Cardinals broadcast for Dave Pash. 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: My guest this week is simply one of the best 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: in the business, one of the most talented guys on 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: radio or television, the one, the only, Scott Van Pelt. 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: If you have an opportunity and you're watching a game, 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: you know that after the game's over, you want to 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: stick around because not only are you going to hear 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: from Scott on Sports Center with Scott Van Pelt, but 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: you're going to hear from great guests. Oftentimes it's the 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: players themselves that just played in the game, or it's 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: another analyst from ESPN breaking down the game you just watched. 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: It's one of the best shows on TV. Scott does 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: a great job. Stanford Steve, who's part of the production team, 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: does a great job. Scott's one of my favorites in 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: this business. So talented, and it's great to catch up 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: with Scott, and so many things like how did this 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: come about in terms of Sports Center with Scott Van Pelt, 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: how much being a radio talk show host prepared him 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: for this role. 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Next step all right, time for 39 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: our conversation with the Great Scott van pelt So Scott. 40 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: You probably don't even remember, but we actually met in 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: the nineties. Both of us had hair. I think you 42 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: were at the Golf Channel and it was at a 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: US Open and Mike Tarico introduced us. I don't know 44 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: that I've actually seen you in person, since we always 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: see each other on TV when you know, we have 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: a late game and we're throwing it too or whatever. 47 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: But happier for your success. Man. It's it's been incredible 48 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: to watch What year is this now? For Sports Center 49 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: with SVP? Is it year eight? Did you guys start 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen? Yes, yes, we just began our eighth year. 51 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny just to backpedal on just 52 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: sort of how all of us in this goofy business 53 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: sort of know each other. I feel like so many 54 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: of us have done what you're explaining right. We've we've 55 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: crossed paths somewhere. It's in a press room, it's on 56 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: a field, it's buy an eighteenth green, it's whatever. And 57 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: then you go do your thing and I go do mine, 58 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: and we're certainly aware of and rooting for each other 59 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: as we watch, and uh, you know, things evolved and 60 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: you've obviously done great stuff as well and continue to 61 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: get to do all of that. And I've been lucky too, 62 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: and I just feel like I'm I really enjoy how 63 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: how our fraternity of Slash sorority, whatever you want to 64 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: call it, it's it's it really is a fraternal thing. 65 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: I find that mostly we root for each other. I 66 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: don't know if people get that, um, but that's always 67 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: how I feel people mostly, And then you know, every 68 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: now and you meet people that just suck, but that's 69 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: just life. I mean, that's not exclusive to any specific occupation. 70 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: But mostly it's a really cool and supportive family because 71 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: it's such it's such a weird gig to do where 72 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: you're on the road and weekends aren't necessarily weekends, and 73 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: holidays might not be holidays and all the rest of it. So, um, 74 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, we we signed up to do this late 75 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: night thing and it's been fun. It was a total 76 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: like just a whiteboard, you know, empty do what you 77 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: want with it, and they've let us kind of do 78 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: our own thing, and some stuff has stuck and others didn't. 79 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: And mostly we just come on after games because we 80 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: like to watch sports and try to reflect that and 81 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: how we cover it. But it's it's really been not 82 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: anything I ever dreamt would happen, that's for sure. So Scotty, 83 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: how did it go down with the approach? Who approached 84 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: you at the ESPN about the idea? Was this something 85 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: that you pitched them? How did it all come together? 86 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: Because you were obviously doing a lot of different things 87 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: at the time, including your radio show, and you were 88 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: doing some Thursday college football pre and post and doing 89 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: Sports Center. How did this show in particular come about? 90 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: It was John Wildhack was in charge at the time. 91 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: He's now at Syracuse as an a d and good 92 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: for the Orange of having a nice year this fall, 93 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: and frankly could have won on Saturday at Clemson. That's 94 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: neither here nor there. John Skipper was our president at 95 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: the time, and the conversation was just kind of an organic, 96 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: what do you want to do sort of a thing, 97 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: and I thought, I said, it'd be pretty cool to 98 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: be able to take the idea of radio and bring 99 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: it to Sports Center and have it a little bit 100 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: less structured, but not just entirely abandoned the notion of 101 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: who won the games and what were the cool things 102 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: that happened, And so it was it was just out 103 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: of that conversation. It was the type of thing where 104 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: I never thought they do it. I mean, Sports Center 105 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: orgy know, has always been this sacred sort of a brand, 106 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: and the idea that they give me the keys to 107 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: the car, so to speak, and let me go where 108 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: I wanted. I just didn't think it had happened. But then, 109 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: to John Wildhau's credit, he said, speak like to use 110 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: the car analogy. He said, Look, I don't want you 111 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: to stand in the middle lane. I mean treat it 112 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of a lot of lanes that 113 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: you can explore and see what you want and see 114 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: what works and what doesn't. And so that's that was it. 115 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just kind of born out of 116 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: that idea that that maybe it would work, and it 117 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: it was. It wasn't like it was a high stakes gamble. 118 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: It was you know, it's midnight, you know, and the 119 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: space after games matters. That real estate is important. But 120 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: if it just didn't sort of take then we could 121 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: have just punted. But you know, it worked well enough 122 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: that we're continuing to do it. And you know, on 123 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: a night like on Monday tonight, as you and I talk, 124 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: we follow up the Bears and the Patriots, and then 125 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 1: Tuesday we follow the NHL, then Wednesday we follow the NBA, 126 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: and and I mean it's I still love games. I'm 127 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: sure you do too. If you didn't, you wouldn't call right. 128 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the watching games is still endlessly interesting because 129 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: things happen you just can't ever imagine, and greatness and 130 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: happens and disappointment and all of it, and we get 131 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: to document that. And that's sort of that's the space 132 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: we've lived in since whatever it was twenty fifteen. I 133 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: guess it wasn't that fall. And we will be throwing 134 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: it to you Wednesday. I'm doing Lakers Denver. It's uh 135 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: jj Reddick and Richard Jefferson. It's the first time that 136 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: the two have worked a game together. So I'll actually 137 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: be thrown at you after we're done. Like I said, 138 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: I haven't seen you in twenty five years, but we 139 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: end up talking. That's the business in a nut job. Yeah. 140 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: One of the reasons I think your show has worked 141 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: is because you're so likable on the air. And I'm 142 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: curious how much do you think the radio show helped 143 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: in that regard. I had Golok on a few weeks 144 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: ago and I got to do one college football season 145 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: with Mike and just seeing the number of people that 146 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: are just attracted him in his personality. And I feel 147 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: like for a play by play announcer, for the most part, 148 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: you're playing a role. You're calling a game. You're not 149 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 1: really putting your personality out there. Although maybe it's different 150 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: when I do college basketball with Bill Walton because you 151 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: can't help, but you know, get into conversations outside of 152 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: just calling the game. My jobs to document the games. 153 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: As a talk show host on radio or doing Sports Center, 154 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: you you're allowed to have your personality really out there 155 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: and people gravitate to you. Scott, how much do you 156 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: think doing the talk show, combine with all your history 157 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: with Sports Center helped create what you've got going now 158 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: enormously because what you learn in radio, which I've said 159 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: and I'll say again, was the hardest thing that I did, 160 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: And I don't know what else could be harder in 161 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: this in this field because it requires hours and hours 162 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: and hours of conversation and interesting conversation and it's every 163 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: day and it's a lot, a whole lot, And Rissillo 164 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: helped me massively just to know, you know, I've always 165 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: credited him for saying, you know, okay, well we'll talk 166 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: about the Bears and Patriots in a block of wait, wait, 167 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: what's the topic? Right, just saying we're going to talk 168 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: about the game. Fine, Well what's the topic. What's interesting 169 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: about the topic? Is it fields? Is it who's the 170 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: quarterback in the indiand is it narrowing that down? But 171 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: anyone can do that, anyone on radio can talk about sports. 172 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: What you should get to share there is who you are, 173 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: what you think, what matters to you. If I don't 174 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: mind being, you know, vulnerable and sharing part of my life, 175 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: the highs and the lows. Talking about losing our dog, Otis, 176 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: our Wheredesian ridge back this past spring, I mean it was. 177 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna bear your soul. I sat on 178 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: television and balled about my dog. I can't tell you, Dave, 179 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: how many times. Just I was in a Maryland football 180 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: game this weekend. It was homecoming. These strangers come up 181 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: to me and they say, the thing you did about 182 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: your dog, that thing you said about Otis. They know 183 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: his name? I said, I tell my wife, like our 184 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: dog became famous posthumously. You know, and when you share 185 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: yourself and the way that Mike and Mike did in 186 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: the mornings about their children and watching their kids grow 187 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: up and sharing that part of their lives. If you're 188 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: willing to, then your audience gets to know you as 189 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: a human, not just some person they say on television, 190 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: and they care about your life if you're willing to 191 00:09:55,120 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: share it. And I've done that, and so undoubtedly that 192 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: part has helped. I think people recognize that I like sports. 193 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: I tell them while I'm from they know I'm a turp. 194 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: When Marilyn gets, you know, beat, then I get I 195 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: gotta wear it, I get heckled. But when they win, 196 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: people know I'm psyched and they're psyched for me. So 197 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: that coupled with having done sports in er for a 198 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: long time, getting to sit alongside a guy like Neil 199 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: Everett who we had a great relationship with, alongside Stuart Scott, 200 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: who he and I had a great thing. You have 201 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: all these different ways that you connect to an audience, 202 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: and radio was the one that made it really personal. 203 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: And so that's been a huge, huge help to connecting 204 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: to an audience. Because now it's harder than everything, easier 205 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: than ever to have a show, harder than ever to 206 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: connect to people because there's so many of them to 207 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: sort of choose from. Yeah, you mentioned Neil. I've gotten 208 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: to know Neil a little bit through Bill Walton. Neil 209 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: will come to some of the Oregon UCLA games and 210 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: then we'll go out to dinner. I think they also 211 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: have a tequila company to yeather. I don't know. Neil 212 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: will shout out a zunia sometimes if people are watching 213 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: Sports Center and they just hear Neil shout that out, 214 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: or if you hear Bill shout that out. Apparently it's 215 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: a tequila company that I think they Well, there you go. 216 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't surprise me. It could be anything with those guys. 217 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: As we know that Neil is one of the truly, 218 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: he's my brother forever. I love him. He's such a 219 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: such a gentle kind, unique soul man. I'm just so 220 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: blessed that I got to know him. I don't know 221 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: if you'd say the same of Bill. Watching you guys, 222 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to turn the tables on you, but 223 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: I do. Can may I ask one question? Oh yeah, 224 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: of course, that's whatever. Do whatever you want? How do 225 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: you do it? Because we had Bill on once and 226 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: he's such a joy, But it's like getting on a 227 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: ride in an amusement park and not knowing where it ends. Yeah, 228 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: so you probably are aware of this. It has been 229 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: out It is out there that they're doing a thirty 230 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: for thirty on Bill and his whole life and a 231 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: big part of his obviously going to be his playing days. 232 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean the interviewed Kareem, Doctor, j ry Bird, Magic John, 233 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you name it, Michael Jordan, they interviewed, well, 234 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: I met with them in March for about an hour 235 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: because they want to do a piece on Bill with 236 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: the broadcasting and they were they were asking the same 237 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: questions and you know, how do you do it? And 238 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: what's the key? And I think I've had other teammates 239 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: of his, including Lionel Hollands, who is a teammate of 240 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: his with the Blazers, tell me this that Bill views 241 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: me as Kareem and that I'm kind of his rival, 242 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: but I'm his teammate. So for the audience's sake, we're rivals. 243 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: But when when the lights are not on and we're 244 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: not on the air, we're teammates. Does does that make sense? 245 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: Like I guess I grasped that and that helped me understand, Okay, 246 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: it's not personal. It's a game. This is part of 247 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: the entertainment, and it allows him to feel like he's 248 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: playing in Game seven of the NBA Finals against Kareem 249 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: It makes sense. It's just it takes a rare talent 250 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: to be able to do it so capably. I feel 251 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: like you and and Benetti. I remember watching Benetti and 252 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: Maui and just being blown away because I mean, it's 253 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: Dayton's playing whomever at noon it's or something, and he's like, 254 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: have you read on Fire the Vanities or something? And 255 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh, this poor guy, and Bannetti hits it 256 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: back at him with pace, and then just for the 257 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: next two hours, it's just this running who knows what. 258 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: But the ability that you have to weave in the 259 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: actual calling of the game, which matters to the two 260 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: Oregon UCLA fans that are watching. They'd like to just 261 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: have some sort of context of the play by play, 262 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: but also never missing where the he's meandering. I just 263 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm marvel at it, and I just uh, but I 264 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: also know, I mean, I don't do play by play, 265 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 1: so I don't try to put myself in that seat. 266 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: I just but I think it's it's a truly a 267 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: rare man or a woman that could sit there and 268 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: actually do it, and you're great at it. I appreciate it. 269 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it too, is just we're 270 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: very different, but we're both accepting of the other and 271 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: our personalities and our beliefs and backgrounds. And you know, 272 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: one of the greatest compliments I got, And this was 273 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: very early on. This was twenty thirteen or fourteen. I 274 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: had done the Pactol Championship game with Bill, and I 275 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: had a Warrior's game. I think it was the next 276 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: night or two nights later. I walk in at the time. 277 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: First of all, Luke, Bill's son, is one of the 278 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: assistant coaches. I walk in and Luke comes over to 279 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: me and gives me a hug, like you look like 280 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: you need a hug. And we're doing this and so, 281 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: and then we go to a sit down with Steph 282 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: Curry and we're about to start and Steph goes, why 283 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: didn't you answer his question? I said, excuse me. He goes, 284 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: you didn't answer Bill's question. And I'm like, Steph, what 285 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: are you talking about? He goes, Bill asked if you 286 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: had ever been inside of a volcano while it's erupting, 287 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: and you didn't answer it. I'm like, because I just 288 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: kind of blew off the question, which I do a lot. 289 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: I think actually people kind of enjoy that more than 290 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: if you actually answer it. I don't know, right, but 291 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: how cool is that? And you asked earlier about having 292 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: a radio show, and am I said about sharing my life? 293 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: I did a thing about my daughter on the show 294 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: once in a segment we call one Big Thing. Then 295 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: the night after I did it, it was her birthday. 296 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: She was six, and Steph scores twenty three and the 297 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: fourth they beat Houston in Houston to knock them out 298 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: of the playoffs, and Steph Curry is on with us, 299 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: and I'm he's always gracious, and I'm trying to let 300 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: him go and I'm trying to say goodbye, and he says, no, wait, wait, 301 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: hold on that thing you did last night about your daughter, man, 302 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: And I mean, you just those things blow you away, 303 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: don't say. I mean, you know someone's out there on 304 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: the other side of the television, But when it's somebody 305 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: that you're talking about on the television and they're consuming 306 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: it actively, I think that's not that it's better or 307 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: worse than anybody listening to you and me talk right now. 308 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: But I just don't know that you're ever really prepared 309 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: for that, right right, And it's affirmation that you're what 310 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: you're doing is bringing joy to somebody else, right, you're 311 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: in attaining which is in a way that you know. 312 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Steph, So how you you I assume who's 313 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: who who among us has been inside of volcano when 314 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: it's rupted, and now of course I have. But if 315 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: you say that, it kind of you know, you're almost 316 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: better off just kind of going back to the game exactly. Yeah, 317 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: that's that's the thing, I you, It's like having It's 318 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: like my kid in the car in the back. I 319 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: just I answer a lots of other stuff that's just 320 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: non secutors. I just figured out he didn't really want 321 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: to know that if he doesn't last again. Oh man, 322 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: good stuff. Well let's um, let's talk a little football. 323 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm curious because you know, obviously you're watching games all 324 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: the time, and you know you're on after the Thursday 325 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: night game, so you watch the Cardinals beat the Saints 326 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: last week. Give me your sense of what you think 327 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: there are three and four? They are a game out 328 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: of first place in the NFC West despite struggling mightily 329 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: offensively for the most part this season, which is so 330 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: weird because just to be honest with your listeners, I mean, 331 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: I know Cliff a long time. I like him. He's 332 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: an easy guy to like, right, fair enough, Yeah, great guy? 333 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: Right right? So we I mean I go back to 334 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: like the college days, and we had a moment you know, 335 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: a lot during our Rascillo days on radio, and it's 336 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: just like I didn't. I mean, I thought, like a 337 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: lot of people thought he was going to be the 338 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: sc you know, offensive coordinator, and then well it took 339 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: a left and as he said a couple of weeks ago, 340 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: like this is new to me. I've never struggled with offense. 341 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: When they went to Sea Allen scored nine points, I thought, whoa, 342 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: what are we looking at here? Now we get a 343 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: little more context with Sea Alle and you think, you know, like, 344 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: good to Pete Carroll. Good for them, they're they're they're competitive, 345 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: don't They're leading the West. Good for Gino Smith, good 346 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: from the whole bunch of them. Um the way things 347 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: have gone. But I have a friend that always say 348 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: is if you say good for you, it sounds like 349 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: it's it sounds patronizing, but I'm being sincere. I think 350 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: it's great that they've done as well as they have 351 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: when everyone thought they were just sort of punting on 352 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: the present. Well, it doesn't look what they are. I 353 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: think the good news for Arizona clearly is you're not 354 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: in division with Philadelphia. You don't find yourself. I was 355 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: behind the leader, um, and you get you need to 356 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: be better at home. Obviously that's a secret. But you 357 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: know what I looked at it. I looked at it 358 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: was a schedule before they buy. And there's not a 359 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: single game that is easy on that not long. And 360 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: but there's also not a single game that I think 361 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: isn't if they want it would surprise me because I 362 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: think the NFL right now is as weird as I've 363 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: ever remembered it, just in terms of how few teams 364 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: I really accept as being excellent. I mean, Minnesota's records 365 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: says they're really good. Are they I don't know. I 366 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: watched how they beat Detroit it felt like they've stolen one. Um. 367 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: I watched how they beat New Orleans the same thing 368 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: kind and so I don't know that they're really good 369 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: or not. And When I watch Arizona and I see 370 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: new comeback, I think instantly, man, that's that's the difference 371 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: a guy makes. Like when I watched Aaron Rodgers struggle, 372 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: I think, how much of that's not having seventeen a 373 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: guy he just trusts on third and five to get 374 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: him a first time, to keep the ball, move the chains, 375 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: I think a lot. Well, how many times the Hopkins 376 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: get targeted in that Thursday It was like fourteen and 377 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: you instantly see the connection that they have with one another, 378 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 1: and how much of the differences that make to an 379 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: offense A ton So I mean, I think they'll they're 380 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: likely to be better. I think with the two bags 381 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: that filled in for Connor last week, they both played well. 382 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: It sucks that Hollywood Brown got hurt, but you know, 383 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: maybe more can stay healthy. You've got enough weapons out 384 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: there that at some point I just have to believe 385 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: the offense is going to look like it's capable of 386 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: looking and what it does. Then there's no reason that 387 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: Arizona can't win enough games to be in the mix 388 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: for a playoff spot, particularly given what the West is. 389 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: But if they want to mess around and play like 390 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: they've played at home or they want to mess around 391 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: and play like they played it, but up in Seattle. 392 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: Then looking at these games before to buy, there's not 393 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: one of them looks like an obvious win to me either. 394 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's reasonable, but from a 395 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: long way away, that's that's what I've noticed when I 396 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: watch it play. To your point, though the NFL, it's 397 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: it is crazier than ever. Who saw Carolina pummeling Tampa 398 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: Bay and Brady looking as pedestrian as he has And 399 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: oh look that that was? That was that was? That 400 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: was a string I said on the show in Sports 401 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: Center like that. In the end of the year, like 402 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: towards December, I'll I always sort of say this is 403 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: the best one and the worst loss of the day, 404 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: because the stakes are such that you know, if you're 405 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: in the mix, you just can't afford this loss. It's 406 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: premature to say that, you know, something's the worst loss 407 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: of the day, but I didn't think it was yesterday. 408 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 1: I think if you're Carolina and you've traded away your 409 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: best player on Thursday night and you're on your third 410 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: string quarterback and you're sort of trying to figure out 411 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: what are we going to be well, you're not supposed 412 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: to be Tom Brady and Tampa Bay and tam Tampa. 413 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: This Tampaga is awful on Sunday. Awful. Yeah, this were 414 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: three points, and I wouldn't say they were lucky to 415 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: do that because they got in the red zone. But 416 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: Brady looks a mess, Rogers looks a mess. I'm here 417 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: in Washington. I mean, Washington beat Green Bay. Those two together, 418 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: keep we keep. I think we do this thing where 419 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: we just presume good teams are good forever and then 420 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: and then when they're not, you just sort of baffled 421 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: by it. Well I'm baffled, but neither one of those 422 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: teams looks like a good football team right now. You 423 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: obviously have a close connection to Washington, and I'd love 424 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: to know your thoughts there on the team, first of all. 425 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: And then also you got Jim Mercy taken shots of 426 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder trying to you force a sale of an ownership. 427 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: You know, we have that here in Phoenix with Robert Sarvaen. 428 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: To me, that was eye opening because again I keep 429 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: referencing things I've said on Sports Center, but it's just 430 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: obviously that was the topic of conversation and we had 431 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: Dan Graziano one, and I said, I don't know this 432 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: to be true, but I can't imagine that Jim is 433 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: out there saying that on his own. I clearly think 434 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: he would. I don't think Jim needs anyone's permission to 435 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: say what he thinks. But I don't presume that he's 436 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: out there saying that unless he believes that there are 437 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: others in the room that feel the same. There's a 438 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: significant hold on a second, hold on a second. We 439 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: have we have to manage this. We have to manage 440 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: the room. Fellas. I have two young kids, we have rustlemania. 441 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 1: We can't have it. Answer ourselves, answer ourselves, okay, so forward. 442 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: Failing as a dad. The amount of listening that's going 443 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: on is minimal. I've been there, brother, I've been there. Man. 444 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: I feel for you. Oh, this is what happens when 445 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: you have kids, your forties and you're an old guy. 446 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: You have you have three timeouts. If you need to 447 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: use one, you can um so on the earth say bit. 448 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't presume that he speaks without feeling like there's 449 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: some consensuses and overstanding that there's somebody else in the 450 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: room that feels that way. And that's eye opening because 451 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: typically these guys don't break lank and so in DC, 452 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: as you can imagine, that plays really well because people 453 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: here largely would love to see it something change in 454 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: regards to ownership. Um, spend a long time. It's been 455 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: a long time since they've been any good and if 456 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: you're an older guy like me, you remember when they 457 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: were great. So, um, it's it's just it's that they're 458 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: just an energy around it. It's just such that they've 459 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: lost a fan base. If you'd have told me when 460 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: I was a young man that someday Washington would be 461 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: last in the NFL and attendance, I would have just 462 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: fought you on site, just on principle, because that's that's 463 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: an impossibility that never could have happened, and it has. 464 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: And so I mean, it's just it's I guess it 465 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: speaks to that anything could happen. Um, if you think 466 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: back to the RFKA days and what was and now 467 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: to the FedEx days with you know, stadium largely is 468 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: overtaken by whoever they're playing that week, and it's just sad. 469 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's a it's an incredibly sad 470 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: state of affairs. And you know, I think URSA is 471 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: saying that had a lot of people here that are 472 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: in that sort of sell the team camp, saying wow, 473 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: what does this mean? Well, it hasn't been anything yet. Um, 474 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: I just no idea what will happen next, But a 475 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: lot of Washington fanciers are sort of waiting to see 476 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: a couple more and then we'll let you go. So 477 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: we kind of mentioned a second ago about the dog. 478 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: So and I texted you you you had done the 479 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: story the summer on Otis and I don't even have 480 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: a dog, and I text you to tell you man, 481 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: I was like, I was emotional watching it. I don't 482 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: have a dog. I haven't had a dog since I 483 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: was a kid, and I was emotional. So you get 484 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: the new puppy and the puppy. Kevin Clark was on 485 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: this pod. I think actually the week that happened, it 486 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: might have been the week before what happened? And how 487 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: did you guys survive to get through it given what 488 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: was going on in the background. Well, it was kind 489 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: of you. You were one of many people that reached 490 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: out and showed, you know, your kindness after we lost 491 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: our dog. It was it was off horribly sad, anyone 492 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: that's ever had a dog. No, it's just how much 493 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: they mean and how integral they are to the family. 494 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: And we thought following the summer, when we were traveling 495 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: so much, that maybe we'd have the time to actually 496 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: pay attention and and correctly take care of a puppy, 497 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: because it's a great deal of work. So um Otis 498 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: was and our dog, Read is a Rhodesian ridge back, 499 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: and there ended up being these big balls of muscling. Um. 500 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 1: He's going to be a big, big guy eventually. At 501 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: the moment he's little um. But what dogs and all 502 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: living creatures do. Davis the poop And so he came 503 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: walking in behind me as I looked into the zoom camera, 504 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: and like a true star, he got right into the 505 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: frame and he squared up his shoulders and he squatted 506 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: and he took a big old dump, and so I 507 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: took I took a twenty, and then we went ahead 508 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: and made it a full and we cleaned up the 509 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: mess and um, and we carried on, because what else 510 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: are we to do. He's a puppy, He's gonna do 511 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: puppy things. But those things continue, They're just not happening 512 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: on podcasts. So it's just you're sort of scurrying around 513 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 1: behind the guy making sure you can get outside. But um, 514 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: you know, he's the new guy in town, and we're 515 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: we're grateful to have the new puffed. And it's just 516 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: very different because otis we got right after I got 517 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: married and so it was just me and my bride 518 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: at the time. We now introduce the new guy into 519 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: this chaos, some of which you got a chance to hear. 520 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: With three young kids and now a puppy, and so 521 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: mostly I just try to survive until I get to 522 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: leave for the sanctuary of work. What time do you 523 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: normally go in? How long are the meetings and the 524 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: prep to do a show? And what time do you 525 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: get out of there? And then are you like you 526 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,239 Speaker 1: go to bed at four in the morning, wake up 527 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: at noon type person. It's it's not so that we 528 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: meet it like four to thirty Eastern. We do. We 529 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: do a zoom. I think a lot of the things 530 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: that sort of came out of COVID is that we 531 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: realize we don't need to be in the office sitting 532 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: there for that many hours. It's sort of counterproductive. So 533 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: we meet via zoom because we can just as effectively 534 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: do that. We probably meet for between half an hour, 535 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: sometimes it could go as long as an hour. And 536 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: when there's a lot going on, you're trying to sort 537 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 1: out what's going to fit in what isn't, and I 538 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: generally get I'll eat at home with our family and 539 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: head in sometime in theres seven o'clock hour. And on 540 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: a night like Monday, as you and I are talking, 541 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: we'll do our pod, Steve and I'll do our pod tonight, 542 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: we'll watch, we'll do the Monday Night game. We'll come 543 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: on when it's over. Depending on when the game ends, 544 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: we'll be live until maybe twelve thirty, sometimes one. And 545 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, Sunday night was chaos because the Yankee game 546 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: got pushed back I should say the Astro as they 547 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: won the Astro game got pushed back through the rain. 548 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: So it ends as we come on live, which meant 549 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: if in TV the first segments called the A Block, 550 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: the A Block for the re air show was live 551 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: at one thirty in the morning. That's not normally the 552 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: way things go. So Sunday was a long night. Didn't 553 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: get home till three well, I stilept till probably eleven today. 554 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: But it's just it's just weird sort of third shift life, 555 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like you operate um during 556 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: a time frame where there's nobody on the roads coming 557 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: home at night, which is great. Um, you're able to 558 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: pick up your kids from school during the day. You're 559 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: present for a lot of stuff that a lot of 560 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: folks might miss, and then you miss some weird stuff 561 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: that other people wouldn't you know. So, but this is 562 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: sort of what we signed up for. But you know 563 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: I'd be doing it anyway. I watched the games mostly 564 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: when I'm off, just because they interest me. So you 565 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: know that the schedule is different than most, but it's 566 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of the only thing I've done for twenty 567 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: whatever years. So now it's just very like a very 568 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: well worn in lane, you know what I mean. Well, listen, 569 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: I'll let you go because I know you got to 570 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: get back to the fam. I could ask you about 571 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: one hundred more questions. We're good, no one's bleeding, everyone's 572 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: still upright. If you have I mean, if we could 573 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: go rapid Fire, I'll just okay your questions. Sure, okay. 574 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: Rapid Fire is favorite guest meaning favorite regular mine for 575 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: your show is Tim Legler. Do you have a favorite, 576 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: or I don't want you. I don't want you to 577 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: get in trouble if you answer this, but do you 578 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: have one? I see what you mean. Well, I mean no, 579 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: I honestly don't, because when I'm talking to Damian Woody, 580 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm having a blast. When we have Ryan Clark on 581 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: after Money and Night Football, I think, how does this 582 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: man have the energy when he was on Get Up 583 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 1: this Morning? When we have Legs on, I think nobody's 584 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: smarter telling me about basketball than this guy. When we 585 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: have people sort of you know, different athletes that I've 586 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: had the chance to talk to through the years, I'd 587 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: say Pat Beverley was always one I loved just because 588 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: I thought he was just so himself, you know. I mean, 589 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: and now you know you're seeing him do some stuff 590 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: in like a podcast space, which only makes sense, and 591 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: you saw him do some media last year after they 592 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: got the season ended. That didn't surprise me at all. 593 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: I thought he'd always really kind of break, he'd cut 594 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: through with people just because he doesn't give a crap. 595 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm lucky to have so many people 596 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: that whenever Tim Kirchin pops up, I think, oh, here's 597 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: my guy. You know what I mean, it's so many 598 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: of those Doris Burke talk at basketball with doors like 599 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: I talked to dB until the cows come home. So 600 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm lucky in that sense that there's so many people 601 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: I enjoy it. I hear from Stanford Steve often during 602 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: college basketball season for obvious reasons because he's Stanford Steve 603 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: and we're doing back twelve games. How long have you 604 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: known and worked with Stanford Steve? He became our producer 605 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: on radio a couple of years in with me and Ryan, 606 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: and knowing him as you do, you can understand how 607 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: easy it is to to just sort of latch onto 608 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: the guy. He's he's a great company, he's funny, he's 609 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: an incredible sports fan, knows more about more than anyone 610 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: that I know, and it's it's blows my mind, Like 611 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: I get I know why I remember my team's regional path, 612 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, because it was my team, But he remembers 613 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: just I remember ninety two the West Regional is a phoenix. 614 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: He's like what And he's never wrong. It's just us 615 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: just one of those people in cyclopedic knowledge. And oh, 616 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: by the way, he was the number one recruit in 617 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: high school when he came out of high school. He 618 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: was a five star guy, but he never big times. 619 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: So we just sort of instantly hit it off because 620 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: he was just such a great company and amazingly loyal friend. 621 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: And I've told the story often, but for your listeners 622 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: are just the cliffs notes. Was when we had that 623 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: meeting with wild Hack and talked about doing the show. 624 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: I said, look, Stanford Steve needs to be on. They're like, 625 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: what is he going to do? I said, well, he's 626 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: gonna be Stanford Steve And they said, well, what is that? 627 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: And I said, I don't really know, but it's just 628 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: trust me. He's just I need him to be there, 629 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: otherwise I'll feel sort of, you know, I'll naked and alone. Well, 630 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: you guys have great chemistry too. I feel much more 631 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: comfortable with his presence and you guys have great chemistry. 632 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: It's I enjoy when when you have him on. Um, 633 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: all right, last one not the fake SVP is your 634 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: Twitter handle at some point where you impersonated. Is that 635 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: why you did that or were you just trying to 636 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: be because it really like latched on because at the 637 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: time I don't even know that the fake Twitter accounts 638 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: were that big or if they were somebody somebody. Well, 639 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: first of all, it seemed like early in the Twitter days, 640 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: at least early for me knowing about it, everyone was 641 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: the real sell and sell. And then someone did pretend 642 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: to be me and they were making all these ridiculous 643 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: um you know, just saying things that I wouldn't have said. 644 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: And then you know, I can't remember exactly all the 645 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: different whatever whatever it was. I mean, it's just it 646 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: was if anybody was pretending to be you and saying 647 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: things that wasn't it wouldn't you. You wouldn't want that 648 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: to be anyone to think it was you. So I 649 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: wasn't the real me. I was just I was not 650 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: the fake one, and that that was where we started. 651 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: And however many years ago that was that was it 652 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,239 Speaker 1: in the Twitter space, which I was as anti as 653 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: as a lot of people are sort of like this is, um, 654 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: who cares if you're eating a sandwich? But you realize, oh, 655 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily eating a sandwich. It's this is where 656 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: we find out everything that's happening in real time. Right sure, 657 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: all right? I lied last one? Um Live golf versus 658 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: the PGA. Is this ultimately good or bad? For golf, 659 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: good for the dudes, it got all the money. It's 660 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: just I don't think it's I don't think it benefits 661 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: people to like the game because you don't. You don't 662 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: end up with him as any of the best people together. 663 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: Um as you would hope, you'd you'd hope that these 664 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: people are playing. I don't know, pick pick a PGA 665 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: Tour event, you know, the memorial, you know, or some 666 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: some tournament we've seen a lot through the years were 667 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: you're just used to seeing all those all these people playing. Um, 668 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, not having them all together benefits nobody. And 669 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: it's just it's a bummer. I get why they did it. 670 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a pot full of money. I don't 671 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: I don't know who among us if they were. I 672 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: mean I get people saying that where the money comes from, 673 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: and that doesn't you know, I understand that, but none 674 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: of us are presented with that moral alema of one 675 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: hundred million or not, right, Um, And so it's just 676 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know where it ends. I mean, 677 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: at some point they will have had it, they will live, tour, 678 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: will have as many people as they can get on it, 679 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: and there won't be any more guys getting posted at 680 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: least for the foreseeable future. But uh, certainly for the 681 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: last year and a half. It's been an incredible amount 682 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: of conversation. It's just I don't know, I don't know 683 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: where to go with it anymore. Last week, one of 684 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: our production folks, it's like, what do you think about? 685 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: You know, Rory's talking about what Phil said, and I said, 686 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: how how many weeks do you guys want to do this? 687 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: You know, how many? How many times do you want 688 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: me to do Rory responding to Phil who said this 689 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: about Live, I mean, this is this is a dog 690 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 1: chasing tale story. Nothing's advancing, We're just saying the same 691 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 1: sorts of things where I just don't think every side's 692 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: pretty well established. I know what the Live guys think, 693 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: and I know what's the PGA two where people think, 694 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: and that isn't going to suddenly change um, at least 695 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: for the time being. So I don't think. I don't 696 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: think it benefits anyone that loves golf to not have 697 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: people playing together, because then you don't ever really know 698 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: for sure, you know, outside of the majors, who who 699 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: the best player in the world is that week? Scott 700 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: you've been so gracious with your time. Go back to 701 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: your family. My son, I'm late to pick him up also, 702 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: so okay, Well, at least they didn't at least at 703 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,479 Speaker 1: least hopefully he didn't fall off the bed and injure 704 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: himself in the middle, which hopefully we could carefully edit 705 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: around the part where I I did the poor parents. Yes, yes, 706 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: well my son's almost seventeen. If he's still he's falling 707 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: off the bed, then we get issues. But exactly, you 708 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: didn't wait till you're an old, middle aged guy to 709 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: start your family, so presumably exactly he's fine. Well, my 710 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: best too of your family, and it's kind of you 711 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: to spend the time with me. I thank you for 712 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: asking Scott until we meet again twenty five years down 713 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: the row. Yes, sir, you are the best. Thank you, 714 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: my friend. I appreciate it all the best. Continued success, man, 715 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: thank you too. Scott did a great job answering the 716 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: rapid fire questions. I had about ten more, but I 717 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: had to go. He clearly had to go. Hopefully his 718 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: kids are okay. But man, what a great guy, what 719 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: a great guest, so good You can see why he 720 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: is loved by millions. When I tweeted out that he 721 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: was the guest on this show. I got great response 722 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: because of Scott's wonderful work on so many platforms, and 723 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: like I said, I'll be throwing it to him Wednesday 724 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 1: night when the Lakers Denver game is over right to Scott. 725 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: But I literally have not seen him in person for 726 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: two and a half decades. It's just a crazy aspect 727 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: of this business. But thanks so much to Scott, and 728 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: thanks to you again for listening as well. You can 729 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: follow us on Twitter at Pash Pod. We are presented 730 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: by bet MGM, the official sports betting partner of the 731 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and by Healer River Resorts and Casinos. I'm 732 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: Dave Pash. Thanks again to Scott Van Pelt and to 733 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: you for listening to another edition of the Dave Pash Podcast.