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Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to you, and that's what you really missed podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is a this is the pot of Gold episode.

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Speaker 1: We've got the sweetest irishman you will ever ever encounter.

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Speaker 2: And that's because the Irish are very sweet.

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Speaker 1: I know, especially Jamien mckintie. Are you kidding? Are you kidding?

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Speaker 3: Rory? Rory?

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Speaker 1: I am. I'm excited for you guys to get to

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Speaker 1: know Damien Moore if you haven't already. He is a

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Speaker 1: really good human, good human.

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Speaker 2: And hasn't changed, has always been the same and all

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Speaker 2: the great and every right way.

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Speaker 3: And what a.

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Speaker 2: Lovely, lovely conversation we just had. So here is Damian McGinty.

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's up guys? Those two faces out and seeing

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Speaker 3: in a while. How you doing? Oh good are you?

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Speaker 1: I know, it's been so long.

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Speaker 3: It's good to see you guys. Host things good. How's

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Speaker 3: everything with you? It's good month.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a I'm in Nashville noise. So moved here

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Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. Well yeah, so fall of

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Speaker 4: twenty one, so yeah, I love it here. Great city, Hi,

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Speaker 4: big fun so like it a lot.

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Speaker 2: I've never been to Nashville.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's great.

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Speaker 3: It's really really good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's kind of it's like, I feel like it's

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Speaker 4: a good hybrid between like LA and kind of normality

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Speaker 4: a little bit kind of you know, you can get

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Speaker 3: So so yeah, it's a it's a great place pokon and.

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Speaker 2: It's such a great place for music you have. Yes,

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Speaker 2: there's so much going on there, right.

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Speaker 4: I know, Yeah, songwriters and producers and the mean, it's

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Speaker 2: So I feel like so many songwriters I know in

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Speaker 2: They go back and forth and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's kind of back and forth. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I also feel like, and since COVID, I was put

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Speaker 2: It's like Texas. Yeah, that's like a lot of places

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Speaker 1: And then there's a mass accident.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's people to spare here, right, it's so true.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's so good to see you. We're so happy

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Speaker 1: that you came on. There's lots that's happened in between

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Speaker 1: Glee and you're about to be a dad, So exciting, Grass.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. It's crazy and you're and you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's huge, so life changing in the best way possible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I need tips, Jenna, I need.

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Speaker 1: Just trust your you know, you get to know them

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Speaker 4: Well, actually, it's what me and my wife we have

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, because there's certain things that my wife

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about all of this. We got to

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Speaker 4: So, first of all, I remember seeing back Home. It

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Speaker 3: Talent because of the TV show that you guys have made.

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Speaker 4: I felt for me, Like I think you guys, did

441
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 4: you know you'd already made forty eight episodes, fuff the episodes?

442
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 3: But I got there in the space.

443
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 4: Of two years, which is ridiculous, Like when you think

444
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 4: about it now, guys, like they make TV shows a

445
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 4: series seasons ten episodes eight like twenty four episodes. Yeah,

446
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 4: I reflection on it now, it's different than what it

447
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 4: was at the time. Where my reflection when I got

448
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 4: out at the end of season three, I remember sort

449
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 4: of feeling like I'd lost myself a wee bit. I

450
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 4: remember being exhausted. I remember so now reflecting on that,

451
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 4: and in hindsight, I'm like, you guys have just started

452
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 4: season three after just finishing a tur by the way,

453
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 4: like you didn't break in the middle, So like when

454
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 4: I got there, use were beyond exhausted.

455
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 3: You probably found us in quite the state.

456
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'd be so curious to see through your

457
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: eyes what you saw when you walked in the first time.

458
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 4: I made even think about that, But like, actually, my

459
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 4: actually experience was actually a very good one.

460
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 3: Like I really didn't.

461
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 4: Have you know, I don't have anything negative even think

462
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 4: about it.

463
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: Like everyone was really really nice.

464
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: That's because you were so nice that I think we

465
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: all were just like charmed by you. We were like

466
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: when we watched you singing your songs in Pot of Gold,

467
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: we were all like swooning, and we were like, I

468
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: think that was real life. We were all just so

469
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 1: happy to see somebody so innocent and pure that we

470
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: hadn't had on a set in such a why.

471
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 2: I think it also was reminiscent of like when Chord

472
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: came on in a way where it was like, oh,

473
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: you're both and you know you're both. Once you get

474
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: to know you, you're much more extroverted you and Chord,

475
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: and in Chord sense is just extroverted.

476
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, a whole nother one.

477
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: But it was sort of like we felt protective, I

478
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 2: think with you coming on and understanding, especially having sort

479
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: of like trial runs with Cord and Darren and Ashley,

480
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: where like, Okay, here are things we didn't do well,

481
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 2: here are things we can do better. And I think

482
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: because of the person you are, everyone was just instinctually like, oh,

483
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: let's just take care of him.

484
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: He's great.

485
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 4: That's kind I like, thank god you did, because, like,

486
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 4: quite honestly, for me in my shoes at the time,

487
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 4: you know, I'm thirty one night. When I joined the show,

488
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 4: i was nineteen, which is really really kind of terrifying.

489
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the second person, second youngest person next to

490
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: Chris ever to have joint Yeah because Chris Chris.

491
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: Wow.

492
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 4: Like I had just moved to LA a week before that,

493
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 4: and now after living in LA for ten years, I'm

494
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 4: like being in La for a week.

495
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 3: You know nothing.

496
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 4: I don't have a driver's license, I doesn't have I

497
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 4: didn't have a credit card.

498
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 3: Oh my god, literal fundamentals and basics.

499
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 4: I was like rocking up to the Fox lot being like,

500
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna work on Glee here, you know, because

501
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 4: it's my job.

502
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 3: Haven't just no idea.

503
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 4: What was going on, No idea of Los Angeles, no

504
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 4: idea of this deep into the acting business, just all

505
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 4: of it. So like it was really really difficult because

506
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 4: I was funning into a new city as well as

507
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 4: like doing this really hard.

508
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: Job, yeah, really hard Glee. It was also like college

509
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: for you. Then I learned how to do my laundry

510
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 1: in college, opened to credit card, all of that, and

511
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: Glee was just college for you, which is mind boggling

512
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: mind but it's actually crazy. That's actually really crazy.

513
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 2: The situation in which you, guys, you did the Top

514
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: two hundred eighty boot camp and then you did the

515
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: actual show for Glee project, which was wild, like where

516
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: they had you all living? Did you you did it?

517
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

518
00:25:54,800 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like actually making a TV show because like often,

519
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 4: how often in your life, guys, can you go somewhere

520
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 4: for ten weeks and not worry about a single thing

521
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 4: and just make a TV show.

522
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: This perspective is mind boggling, because I don't know at eighteen,

523
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 2: if people realized that they have that perspective of especially

524
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: if they come from like we were saying, if they

525
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 2: plucked people from like all over the country who are

526
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: so inexperienced, I have done anything, and then all of

527
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 2: a sudden, that could be really difficult for a lot

528
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: of people. But you've been touring, Yeah, I've been turned,

529
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: I've been working.

530
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 4: But like you know, it was interesting the Glee project

531
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 4: where they they took everything away most we didn't the

532
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 4: phones in the laptops, we had no contact to day

533
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 4: outside world.

534
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: So it was literally ten weeks we were in the counter.

535
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 3: It was Big Brother, and we were in dorms. They

536
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,479
Speaker 3: like built dorms for us that were freezing, cold, stopping.

537
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 4: So it was like, probably realized that probably things that

538
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: went down that wouldn't fly.

539
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: And I in this honest but like at the time,

540
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: you don't care. You're just like this is so exciting. Yeah, well,

541
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 3: making a TV show like this is fun. Then you

542
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: just kind of sink or swim and you just learned

543
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 3: to swim really.

544
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: So did Glee seem easier than comparatively like you have

545
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: or different different Yeah, very very different experiences.

546
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,479
Speaker 4: Like the Glee project everyone was on par and everyone

547
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 4: kind of but Glee, like everyone was not on par

548
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 4: at least from my shoes anyway. I naturally, as you

549
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: would expect, there's often you know, there was people that

550
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 4: were a star names, and then there's people that were

551
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 4: fresh and new and kind of building the way up

552
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 4: or trying.

553
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: You know.

554
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, whenever, whenever, I feel like whenever a work environment.

555
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 3: Has different levels, it creates, it creates different.

556
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 4: Challenges, It creates different archies, it creates hierarchies. You know,

557
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 4: it creates things that are that are good, but then

558
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 4: it creates things that are not so good. And I

559
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 4: think the good thing but the Glee project at least

560
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 4: was we were just all on the same planted and

561
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 4: we were just like, what's going on? And also the

562
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 4: production crew hadn't got a clue what they were doing,

563
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 4: like they were making it open as they went along, like.

564
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: She would never been made before. Right, There was no formula,

565
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 3: there was no blueprint for like what what what we

566
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: were doing? They were like, we'll make a music video,

567
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: and then you know, you get judged on your on

568
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: this theme in the music video, and then you know

569
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 3: the way bottom three and the way I sang off

570
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 3: and you know that, and they were cannon just making

571
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: up us go along. So everybody's kind of be in

572
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: it together.

573
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 4: It was just like it was a It was a

574
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 4: scramble of complete chaos that I really enjoyed.

575
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: We were all in it together. It was like that

576
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: kind of cumual feeling. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. So when you

577
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: were on the show and you would want a seven

578
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: episode arc, right, that was your understanding past the seven?

579
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: Did you find out before that or did you just

580
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: think like you were going away after the seven? Do

581
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: you remember like getting a call being like we're going

582
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: to keep you for more. You just get kept getting

583
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: written in.

584
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: I just kept getting the scripts great all the time. Yeah. Remember,

585
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 3: did you guys ever live in the Palazo Across?

586
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they put me there for the pilot because I

587
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: also came to l A for the show. Everybody else

588
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: had been in l A already. Yeah, so Chris and

589
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: I lived at the Plazzo there you go.

590
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, So yeah, I just I literally kept getting the

591
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: scripts and I was like, well, I suppose suppose doing

592
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 4: an eighth episode of the ninth do you my rent

593
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 4: a month?

594
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: Do I not? Wow?

595
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: Wow?

596
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: Like also this ridiculous even think about it. I don't

597
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: have an agent or anything.

598
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: You better take that full check. You no commissions to anyone.

599
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't even know what was I don't even

600
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: know I started. I remember I started getting residuals. I

601
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: was like, what the what is this this is?

602
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: And if you didn't have fact, if you were in

603
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: a series regular, then you would get those like fat

604
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: foreign residuals.

605
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: Oun't know where right they built those into a contract.

606
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 4: So yeah, I got foreign I wasn't a regular, I

607
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: think it foreigners.

608
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 3: They just was a guest star.

609
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, we want Wow.

610
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 4: I was yeah, I remember remember my first day. I

611
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 4: got a reciel, Jack got alfa sofa. It was just

612
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: like what in gauge name of this?

613
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: It seems crazy to me that I know we were.

614
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: So it was third season, back of a tour, second tour,

615
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: and like we're like, oh god, how are we going

616
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: to get through another twenty two episodes? Yeah, but having

617
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: someone like Damien come in and then we just didn't

618
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: know any of that was going on. Right, Like, I

619
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,719
Speaker 2: don't know how we didn't. I think also by that

620
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: point people had become like famous, and we were probably

621
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: to an extent like so up our own asses totally

622
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: that we weren't even We're like, oh we'll be nice working,

623
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: he's so sweet, great, but not any questions now, probably

624
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:12,239
Speaker 2: not like are you okay?

625
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 4: In your defense, you were also like like, you know,

626
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 4: it's not a normal it's really not a normal existence.

627
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 4: That level of fame that came up glee, Like, I'll

628
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 4: never forget it.

629
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: It was.

630
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 4: It's pretty miserable, to be honest, Like, I was personally

631
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 4: not a fan of the whole. Like I'd gotten to

632
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 4: the point where where as you guys, well know, we're

633
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: just walking around. I subconsciously was just like even if

634
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 4: people weren't looking at me, I was just like, oh

635
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 4: my god, there's people just looking at me.

636
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

637
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. It makes you paranoid, Yeah, the paranoid, and it

638
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: puts you into this place that's not comfortable. It's a

639
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: horrible heart. It's I honestly, I'm not a fan of it.

640
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 4: And I'm like with caltholic thunder, you know, there's always

641
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 4: I've always had like an element all that but it's

642
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 4: way more manageable.

643
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: Like Glee, it felt like Bieberd level fame, like it

644
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: actually did, where like I.

645
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 4: Remember, like there was like a little mixed concert going

646
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 4: on downtown in La one night, and I had my

647
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 4: bodies over from Ireland and we walked past.

648
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: We were just going to the cinema or something.

649
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 4: We walked past, and like I got hounded by like

650
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 4: hundreds and all these people that were in line and me. Like,

651
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 4: So for you guys that were on it for six years,

652
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 4: my point is that, like I do genuinely have sympathy

653
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 4: for your experience in certain elments of it as well.

654
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 4: You know, not to say that it was incredible, because

655
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 4: it was. We're blessed to have the experience we were,

656
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 4: but like also there was just parts of it that

657
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 4: were very very hard on a human level. So like

658
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 4: me going in and meeting you guys at that point,

659
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 4: it was probably unfortunate for me because like I would

660
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 4: love to work for example, I'd love to work with

661
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 4: you now, do you know what I mean? I really

662
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 4: would where would feel very very different than where we

663
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 4: have a different playing field.

664
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: But like at the time, you're in complete survival mode

665
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: and I'm a baby. I'm like, I have no idea

666
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: what's going on here?

667
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: You really got to run into the deep end.

668
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: It was Jenns and I. We were both.

669
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: Like floored by because you know all the episodes, and

670
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure you feel the same way. At a certain point,

671
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: You're like, I don't know what we did. At what

672
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: point you remember certain things, certain episodes and watching your

673
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: first episode where you had to come in and have

674
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: one on one scenes with really big characters on the

675
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: show and held together multiple storylines and you had two

676
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 2: solos and the like, we were trying to get a

677
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: solo in the season and.

678
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: You came in and got That was kind of awkward for.

679
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: Me though, but also it was it was so great

680
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: and deserved and well done. And I think come and

681
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: maybe it was that you got thrown into the deep

682
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: end and you're like, I don't have anything we compare

683
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: this too, so I just have to do it. Yeah,

684
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: And really it felt like you had been doing it.

685
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: If no one knew the context in which you came

686
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 2: to the show, just and I'm sure a lot of

687
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: people did, just see you on there for the first time,

688
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: it felt like, yeah, this is what you have been

689
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,479
Speaker 2: doing in pursuing and you ended up on the show. Well,

690
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: like it seemed like you fit in perfectly. I'm glad

691
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: it get cross that way.

692
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, you know, it's I look back on

693
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 4: it very fondly, like I really enjoyed it. I really

694
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 4: enjoyed the experience. I learned literally so much from it,

695
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 4: like an unbelievable mind, good on bad, like to be honest,

696
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: and yeah, just just from the different experiences that came

697
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 4: from with So yeah, I'm very I'm very grateful what happened.

698
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 4: And it's just like it's something nice to look back on,

699
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 4: you know, it's kind of memory.

700
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: It was a good season too.

701
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: Well.

702
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: My wife always cracks a joke that, you know, Glee's

703
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 4: ratings were great and then I came in and it wasn't.

704
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah left, yes exactly, YEA tell her season.

705
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: We needed you. Yeah, that's what it was like.

706
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 4: I remember the I remember the conversation about me leaving

707
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 4: actually to be honest, and like the opportunity was there

708
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 4: for me. I'm sorry if you hear my dog by

709
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 4: the way, that's just I don't know what's going on there,

710
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 4: and you know, the opportunity was there for me to

711
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 4: play more of like a B part role and honestly,

712
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 4: in lesser terms, be a number in the choir.

713
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: Room like first season four, and personally, I just like

714
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: didn't want that.

715
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: Wait, so they offered it to you.

716
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: It was there, like it was on the table. Yeah,

717
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: they were like, you could do this, or you could

718
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 3: do that, or you know, we could bring you back

719
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 3: and be in the choir room. And I was just like,

720
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 3: I that's just not I just don't.

721
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: Want a nice option to have.

722
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 4: It just didn't be I don't know, it just didn't

723
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 4: failed to me because I remember like towards the end

724
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 4: of season three and it was going in that direction anyway.

725
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 4: Like it was very very clear to me personally that

726
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 4: I was just I was having and this is not

727
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 4: to you know, talk dying upon that because it's still

728
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 4: a great experience, but I was having more time just

729
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 4: sitting in the choir room being in a scene, but

730
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 4: not being in the scene.

731
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, like that's really tough. Yeah, Like that's actually

732
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: harder than its signs sitting there for eight or nine

733
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 3: or ten hours.

734
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I love performing, I love singing live,

735
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 4: I love turn I love doing this that the other,

736
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 4: and so it just didn't quite you know, play out.

737
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 4: And Dante called me and was, you know, saying, like,

738
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 4: you know, season four is not going to work out

739
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: or whatever, and I was like, honestly, Dante, that's I

740
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 4: completely understand, Like I get it, that is what it is.

741
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 3: So but yeah, just such a great experience. Love them.

742
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 2: Wow, I feel like, I mean, you got a good

743
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: head on your shoulder. Yeah, great perspective, dough that whole thing.

744
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's you know, I think towards the

745
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: end of.

746
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 4: It, I got it at the right time, like I

747
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 4: really really did. And I don't speak about this very often,

748
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 4: but like I'm not someone that's ever really got carried

749
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: away ever in my life or like kind of lost

750
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 4: themselves or you know, I've always kind of you know,

751
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 4: tried to stay on a level plan fail or whatever.

752
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 4: But I do remember towards end the season three I

753
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 4: was just my head was like.

754
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 1: It's actually very comforting to hear and also to when

755
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: you mentioned like not it's not a normal lifestyle to

756
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: live the life of fame, right. I just read an

757
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: article recently that was like, I think it takes shaves

758
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen years off if you're really famous of

759
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: your life. And no, it's comforting to hear because you

760
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: got a really good bite, a really good taste, you

761
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: like digested it, and then you got out right You're like,

762
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: I'm good ya. Where our heads were still spinning after

763
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: season you know, four, five, six, and it took a

764
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: long time for us to detox that feeling and to

765
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: process what happened throughout the whole thing. And so it's

766
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: actually really comforting to hear you say that because I

767
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: think we all in some way lost ourselves at some

768
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: point within the show at some you know, and I

769
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: think we all lost ourselves like at different points, and

770
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: we were able to like pull each other out in

771
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: some way. We were very supportive in that way and

772
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: found each other. But I feel that very deeply.

773
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice to have like another perspective of like, okay,

774
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 2: so we weren't totally crazy for feeling the way we

775
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: were feeling, right.

776
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: You know, there's like relationships where they you're like, oh,

777
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: that person brings out like the worst in me. That

778
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: was like a season of Glee. I was like, oh,

779
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: this brought out the worst in me. You know, That's

780
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: the way it felt for me. Yeah, was that season

781
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: three for you, Jenna, Yeah, very season four Yeah, yeah, no,

782
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: actually season four was pretty good. It was season three,

783
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: it was it was season three. Tina was getting board. Yeah,

784
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: I got bored. I was sitting in the back a.

785
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 3: Lot, which the soul destroy. I mean, I'm not, I'm not.

786
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: It sounds a lot. It sounds hard. It sounds a

787
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: lot easier because like, yeah, you're still getting paid, you

788
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: get to hang out, you get to chill. But it's

789
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: it really is. It's draining, and to not be able

790
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: to apply yourself right.

791
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: To do this thing.

792
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: I would like to be able to do it right, Like.

793
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 4: If I get hired, if I get hired to you know,

794
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 4: plumb a toilet, I don't want to go and you know,

795
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: watch somebody toilet.

796
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: It's a weird, weird example, but like it's perfect. I

797
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: want to I'd like to, you.

798
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: Know, totally totally let me live.

799
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to know what it was like for

800
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: you the first time you went back to Ireland after

801
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: you had been on the show.

802
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 3: Was it yeah, chaos?

803
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the ones people waiting at airports, people.

804
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: It was like yeah it was home, Yeah, yeah.

805
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 4: It was, I mean it was it was kind of crazy,

806
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: like obviously the first and only I think Irish person

807
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 4: you know, to be on the show. On the show

808
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 4: was such a you know, not only was a huge

809
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 4: in America, it was like this international phenomenon. Actually, you

810
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: guys have played a deal too, because I actually went

811
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 4: to the show.

812
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was there. Yeah, I'd wanted to leave projecked,

813
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: and they wanted me to come along.

814
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: You're in.

815
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 4: The movie.

816
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a shot of him in the audience.

817
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: That's right.

818
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: Okay, we hadn't worked with Red.

819
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: You're totally right, that's right.

820
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hadn't met how to bet you? No, I

821
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: haven't met you yet.

822
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so.

823
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm in the movie.

824
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 4: So Taylor Swift sneaky at it on that Yeah.

825
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: I remember seeing the concert and being like this is

826
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 3: it was? It was a really good, really good gig.

827
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 3: But like I remember people cooling metal, absolutely metal.

828
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,479
Speaker 1: We had a class in Ireland. Now I will say

829
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: we really had too much.

830
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 4: It was.

831
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: It was the end of the tour too, so we

832
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: were just kicking it. We were having a real, real

833
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: good Was that was.

834
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 3: That your last gig? Yeah? It was your last? Yeah,

835
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: the tour. Where was the after party? Do you remember both?

836
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: So we did School.

837
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: I think we did four shows in two days, right,

838
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: We had matinees and and each night we went to

839
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: this little bar called School.

840
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: We called it the school House. It was like an

841
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: old school house, like a kindergarten school that they turned

842
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: into a bar. And I think we couldn't go anywhere

843
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 1: to Central because of.

844
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: You know, where we were staying.

845
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: It was to where we were staying, and it was

846
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: it was so safe, and there was a mic, and

847
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: so Darren brought his guitar and we would you know,

848
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: it's only the cast and crew of the tour that

849
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: were allowed that were there really, because nobody really did.

850
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: Especially we like stumbled in and there was somebody like

851
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 2: singing okay, and like we just had the greatest time

852
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: time and then we were all just sort of decided,

853
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: we need to take over this bar tomorrow night when

854
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: we're done with it.

855
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we did go to Temple Street too, you did,

856
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:29,479
Speaker 1: oh yeah.

857
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: When we first got we had like a day or

858
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: two off, right, and we did a little tour. Toys

859
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: like us and Leah and who else.

860
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: THEO and Clinton and Todd came with us our security.

861
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: We drank and ate our way through. It was really fun, Dublin.

862
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: It felt like we were it was really really fun.

863
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: We had a good time.

864
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and the World Cup was on and so

865
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: we could watch the matches.

866
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: And oh yeah, C eleven.

867
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: It was just the kindest people, the nicest, so nice.

868
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: I do have to say the fan interactions because they

869
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: were so nice. They acted like they knew you, and

870
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 2: so they would get very personal, but it was never

871
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: like in a threatening way like other places I've been.

872
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 2: You were scared because I don't know you.

873
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 3: You don't need to touch me.

874
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 4: I mean no, I mean I'm Irish and I have

875
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 4: hot interactions with Irish people where I'm questioning up with I.

876
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: Have I met you before? That's kind of awkward.

877
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 4: I have no idea who you are, but you really

878
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 4: like you know, like shed mass form my grand last

879
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 4: week like this?

880
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: What did you think of the amount of Irish strokes

881
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: that they made about with Rory, Like did you feel

882
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: like there was it was too much at any point

883
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: where you're like all right, enough guys, or how how

884
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: did you take all that coming on the show.

885
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 4: Know, it's interesting, Jenna, Like, I like, I didn't fail.

886
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 4: I certainly didn't feel like offended by it, you know.

887
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 4: And I remember like a couple of articles coming out

888
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 4: the time, and I was contacted by a few people,

889
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 4: but like, you know, do you think this is right?

890
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 4: And you know, is this whatever you want to say,

891
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 4: whatever term you want to use, And I was like no,

892
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 4: like let it go, like stop stop just looking for

893
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 4: news just because of it. So like I remember like

894
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 4: not being offended at all. But what I would say

895
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: is that it almost doubled.

896
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 3: Down how hard it was to act it out because

897
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 3: it was so unnatural to me, so unbelievably unnatural, like

898
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: like Irish people, or at least me, probably ninety five percent,

899
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: we don't say top of the Morning, Like that's not

900
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 3: that is the most unnatural thing you could ask an

901
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 3: Irish person who say, so my very very first scene

902
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: I'd ever done acting ever in my life. I had

903
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 3: to walk up to have them worsh and say top

904
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: of the.

905
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 4: Morning, and like, you know, I can you know the

906
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 4: whole idea when you've cracked it this, it's meant to

907
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 4: be natural.

908
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 3: So not only was this difficult anyway, I was doing

909
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 3: the most level. Yeah, I'm trying to make it naturalized.

910
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 4: It's like I don't know how to do this, but

911
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 4: but yeah, so I think more than anything, I wish

912
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 4: I wish the script had I mean, I suppose I mean, listen,

913
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 4: they you know, they did a great job and they're

914
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 4: incredible writers, et cetera. But I do wish the script

915
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 4: had to be written in a in a way that

916
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 4: was I suppose more realistic, which might have given what

917
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 4: I feel might have personally given me a better shot

918
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 4: of like more natural.

919
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: And so I remember that feeling very challenging. Yeah makes sense.

920
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the music you got to do,

921
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: because you've got to do a lot of good music,

922
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: and I feel like a lot of good music that

923
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: was totally in your lane, like they they knew who

924
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: they were hiring, you know they and well, at least

925
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: I felt like that to us. Were there any songs

926
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: that you were really excited to get to do that

927
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 2: you got to do?

928
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest, I enjoyed kind of

929
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 4: every song that I got to do. You know, I

930
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 4: felt I felt it was very kind of one dimensional,

931
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 4: to be honest.

932
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: Like, you know, you're going to be this person for us,

933
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 2: this is what you deal.

934
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 4: You're going to be this person you're gonna stand in

935
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 4: the middle choir. I'm you're just gonna deliver a song.

936
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 4: And I'm like, like, you know, I sometimes if I

937
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 4: had to being older, if it sort of felt like

938
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 4: my place, I might have had a conversation where I'm like, listen,

939
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 4: I can bring so much more to the table than this.

940
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: I'm just not getting the chance. But obviously was I

941
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 4: was never going to say anything like that, do you know.

942
00:46:59,280 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: What I mean?

943
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 4: Yeah? So, but I mean the music itself really enjoyed,

944
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 4: like love singing Home, I really love Blue Christmas, even

945
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 4: like take care of Yourself with the false Satto and

946
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: things like that. You know, it definitely sort of felt like, yeah,

947
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 4: they were very specifically like ectoid for Rory for my.

948
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 3: Sort of singing skills. So there were songs that I

949
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 3: enjoyed singing. Yeah.

950
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: It always probably such a treat to get to, Like,

951
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: I know, it probably was really boring for you to

952
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: have to stand there and sing every time, but it's

953
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: really nice for us.

954
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 3: It's so good.

955
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: I think you just sit back and watch. Okay, we

956
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: have some fan questions that people wrote in, and so

957
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask some what song do you wish

958
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: you would have sung on the show from Herman Herman,

959
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: is there any songs current day that you were.

960
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 4: Like, Oh, current day, I often wish that you guys

961
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 4: might have done. I'm sure you probably did do this

962
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 4: at some point. I wish I had to have been

963
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 4: part of more like boy Bond Numbers. I enjoyed that

964
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 4: we did a one direction thing that was very, very enjoyable.

965
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 4: I enjoyed that kind of you know, I've always been

966
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 4: a fan of working in a group as a team,

967
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 4: you know, I kind of enjoyed that. It's because I've

968
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 4: been with a group for you know, a very long time.

969
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 4: So yeah, I wish I could have been part of

970
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 4: like more boy band Numbers. I suppose that would have

971
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 4: been fun.

972
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 2: There amazing, Yeah, that would have been good fun.

973
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: Two thousand and two onth So, now, did you do

974
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: you keep in touch with any of the Glee Project alumni?

975
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I do.

976
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 4: I keep in touch with Bryce Bryce so random, Like, well,

977
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 4: it's not random because I know Bryce's wealth on the

978
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 4: Glee Project and Bryce is like this ridiculous music career

979
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 4: and his music slaps and I slapped for like ten years.

980
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm like I'll never forget, like kenn Of

981
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 4: when the whole Glee Project thing was going dying, and

982
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 4: he won't mind me saying this. Bryce was like he

983
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 4: Bryce leved on my sofa for like six months, and

984
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 4: he went from a you know, he went from every

985
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 4: day he'd wake up and he'd I hope he doesn't

986
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 4: kill every telling us I don't think you. Every day

987
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 4: he'd wake up and you know, his line would always be,

988
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 4: let's see how the people of Gotham are doing today?

989
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 3: And he turned on the Xbox. No.

990
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 4: Then like eleven or twelve years later, he's like this

991
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 4: platinum selling artists, you know, life story from you. But yeah, Cameron,

992
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 4: Cameron lives in Nashville. I've seen him. I've seen him

993
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 4: this year and anytime I'm kind of in the Carolinas,

994
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 4: I would see Hannah, I speak to Lindsay, and I

995
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 4: spoke to Alex a couple of weeks ago.

996
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 3: Wow.

997
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: So a lot of them, Yeah mind yeah, I mean

998
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: a talented crew too.

999
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 3: Right now.

1000
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 1: Everybody's doing something.

1001
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think it's like testimony to our season.

1002
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 4: What's quite rare, I feel like for these kind of

1003
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 4: shows is that like half of a are still working

1004
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 4: at a very.

1005
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 3: Very high level.

1006
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, which from TV shows like that isn't always the case.

1007
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 4: But like what came from the season one of our

1008
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 4: show was it was just people grafters, really talented grafters.

1009
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 4: People weren't afraid to put the work on to like hustle,

1010
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 4: you know, people on the hustling. I'm very very talented.

1011
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 3: So so yeah, yeah, I keep in touch with a

1012
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 3: decent money than meal. Charlotte L.

1013
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 2: Davis wants to know do you miss Dairy and says

1014
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: come home icon.

1015
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: I do miss Terry.

1016
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 4: I'm going home for Christmas, so I'll look forward to

1017
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 4: that always. Yeah, I mean I missed Airy a lot.

1018
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 4: It's kind of just the way my life's played out where,

1019
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 4: you know, my career is kind of more US based.

1020
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 3: But I was home for Thrive. I actually spent the

1021
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 3: first quarter this year in Ireland, which is really nice.

1022
00:50:53,880 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: That's really nice. We are so grateful that you I

1023
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: DM you. You said yeah so quickly. We are just

1024
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 1: so grateful to have this time to really debrief about

1025
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: the show and see you again in this other form.

1026
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: I feel like we didn't we never really got to deprief.

1027
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: It's been such a long time since we've seen you,

1028
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 1: and we had such a wonderful time with you on set.

1029
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: You really were such a breath of fresh air and

1030
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: we need we're just yeah, we did so thank you

1031
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: so much for coming on and sharing with us and

1032
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: and just so we could see your face again.

1033
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: To be honest, guys, Lessen always a pleasure. If you

1034
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: need anything, just give me a show, no problem with all.

1035
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: Good luck with the baby. We're so excited for you

1036
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: and with the rest of your awesome career. You're the best, and.

1037
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 3: Hi for us, It's so good to see you. Damien.

1038
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I feel emotional.

1039
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: He is very emotionally intelligent.

1040
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: He's a grown man.

1041
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: I just am floored by the difference of which we

1042
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: experienced him and now. He was always the same, but

1043
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: he is so wise, so mature.

1044
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: So grounded, so grounded. I mean yeah, he always has been,

1045
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: but it is like spoken to him a ton. Yeah

1046
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: over the years, I've seen him on Instagram and so

1047
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 2: you feel like you sort of I know what somebody's

1048
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: doing going on in their life a bit, but wow.

1049
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 3: You just like he's about to be a dad.

1050
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: He's a husband.

1051
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: Oh what a sweet sweet man.

1052
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 3: He's kept like such a consistent and like great career.

1053
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: Happening, and yeah, I'm really happy for him. I'm really

1054
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: grateful we got him and Glee had him, and that

1055
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: way you got to chat with him again.

1056
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 2: In retrospect, like he was saying, like things you don't

1057
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: realize when you're actually shooting. This thing is having someone

1058
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: like him, And I think Cord was like this for

1059
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 2: us in season two. It makes you see what you're doing.

1060
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 2: It grounds you in a way where you're forced to

1061
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: sort of see what you're doing with fresh eyes if

1062
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: you allow it to. I don't think I think we

1063
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,959
Speaker 2: popped in and out of that in season three because

1064
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: we were all losing it a bit. But having somebody

1065
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: who was just sweet and not i don't know, competitive,

1066
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 2: or had no ego and just showed up and did

1067
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: a great job and was just kind every day, it

1068
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: was such a nice thing to have around and contributed

1069
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: liatively in such a great way.

1070
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: Totally, it was a yeah, you're right. There was a

1071
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 1: lot of chaos and he was a constant.

1072
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: He was always like I don't think necessarily think I

1073
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 2: feel like we felt that, but we didn't necessarily Maybe No.

1074
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 3: Appreciate it as much Peter.

1075
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: Appreciate it at the time. Yeah, Thank you Damian so

1076
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 2: much for spending so much time, and again, it's such

1077
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: a gift for people to come on here and be

1078
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 2: so honest and open with us, and we really really

1079
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Thank you for that, Damien. I guess that's

1080
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,280
Speaker 2: what she really meant.

1081
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: Bye.

1082
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram at and

1083
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: that's what you really miss pod and make sure to

1084
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: write us a review and leave us five stars.

1085
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 3: See you next time.