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Speaker 2: He's a Miami hip hop Lionere put up his DJ

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Speaker 1: Together they drink it up with some.

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Speaker 3: Of the biggest players, you know what I mean. And

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Speaker 3: the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source

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Speaker 1: Drink chans mother das do ye see that's it's time.

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Speaker 1: Drink up mother, Mother? Would it gonna be hoping? It

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Speaker 4: And this is drink Champs japri All make Toys guest

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Speaker 4: Today's Guests. I literally think it's the smartest person probably.

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Speaker 1: Ever had on drink chest. The fact that I've heard it.

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Speaker 4: He went to Harvard at fifteen years old, graduated at nineteen,

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Speaker 4: had his own has his own platform. I thought I

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Speaker 4: thought the record label was just going to try to

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Speaker 4: kill him. At one point he was the director to consumer. First,

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Speaker 4: he was giving out his phone number. He's doing concert,

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Speaker 4: He's selling the tickets. It's this man is a mogul.

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Speaker 4: This man is a legend, writer, producer, everything. I've been

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Speaker 4: trying to give this man his flowers, and today we're

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Speaker 4: gonna give him his flowers. In case you don't know

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Speaker 4: who the fuck we talking about, We're talking about.

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Speaker 1: The one only impeccable. Now. Now, I thrive in dumb rooms.

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Speaker 1: I played that. I played that role.

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 1: That role?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 4: Are you uncomfortable around other scholars or other like you know,

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Speaker 4: what is that Ivy League school?

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Speaker 1: Or who do you? What do you IQs?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 3: I feel like I can. I can move in really

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Speaker 3: any type of room. Yeah, And to be honest, like

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Speaker 3: when I first got on Harvard's campus, it was a

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Speaker 3: little you know, it took some getting used to just

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Speaker 3: a being of color and you don't row no. And

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Speaker 3: then also being as young as I was, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, fifteen for real.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you learned very early on to just sort

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Speaker 3: of move in any type of room. But I really

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Speaker 3: got to give it to my father man, when I

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Speaker 3: was coming up. You know, my my parents are from

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Speaker 3: I mean still to this day, my mother's you know,

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Speaker 3: to others. You never realize the stories and the backstories

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had a bad day? Have I had

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Speaker 1: a bad day? See your music, I'll just be happy,

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Speaker 4: You really do put in a happy movie. Give your

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I think we all do. I

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Speaker 4: First off, you, like you said, we went to Harvard,

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Speaker 4: and most people go to Harvard and they get away

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Speaker 1: Did you feel like you was moving backwards at one point?

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Speaker 3: I mean everyone that I initially told my plan to

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Speaker 3: So my dad said, hey, look, you know I'm in

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Speaker 3: You get a credit card. And I went straight.

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Speaker 3: So you know, when you get on when you get

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Speaker 1: And folks.

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Speaker 3: Folks were saying, yo, you nice. So I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: You was like the uber driver, you see the Uber drivers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: student loans. Howard you pay it off a couple of

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean I think really right now sort

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: So maybe my first act was a starving artist. Then

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Speaker 3: I'm really at a place where you know, once you

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Speaker 3: of innovation. So in order for me to feel like

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00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: I could actually still have control of my finances, I

433
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 3: moved everything to decentralize. So all of my tour advances,

434
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: all of my merch all of my digital sales. I

435
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 3: had taken it off of Spotify, but you got to

436
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 3: pay me in bitcoin. So twenty thirteen we got earth

437
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 3: hundreds and hundreds of payments and transactions and bitcoin at

438
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty five dollars a coin. Last time

439
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: you check, where's a bitcoin at. Now. I'm not saying

440
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 3: this for any other reason, because it wasn't that. It

441
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 3: was just a genius move. It's almost like you and

442
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 3: I think, if you put good energy out in the world,

443
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 3: even if you get a curveball, and even if something

444
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 3: happens where someone else will be like, man, I just

445
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 3: got hit for a million dollar lawsuit, but they charged

446
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 3: an interest in my accounts of frozen for two million.

447
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 3: If you sit down and you have gratefulness for just

448
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 3: your ability to still have curiosity and ingenuity, then you're

449
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 3: going to have these ideas and opportunities and as long

450
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: as your lines of communication are open as well. That's

451
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: one thing I've always wanted to make sure is, Look,

452
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 3: anybody wants to reach me, text Ryan dot com. You

453
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 3: can go leave your number in that website and I

454
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 3: will text you back. Now, I got one hundred thousand

455
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 3: plus people in my phone, but that's why I had

456
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: to build a software so that I could manage all

457
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: of it. But in those times, yeah, superphone, But in

458
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 3: those times where people actually, you know, they they feel

459
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: like they want to be of service or of help,

460
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: you're not unreachable, you know. And I find a lot

461
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 3: of times when people going through something that's that's that's tough,

462
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 3: they want to sort of retract from their their friends

463
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: or fan base, et cetera, not realizing that that. I

464
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: think the the default human impulse is to be helpful.

465
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, the default human impulse is

466
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: to be helpful. So when I actually, you know, was

467
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 3: going through that, somebody was like, yo, man, you know,

468
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 3: why don't you look at this bitcoin thing? You know

469
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, And that way made a serious way,

470
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And so I think that's

471
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 3: really what my real crusade and purpose is now. And

472
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 3: I'm setting up different infrastructures so that I can actually

473
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: handle all the inbound because I think, you know, we're

474
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 3: in Miami, but I think, you know, Miami money is

475
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 3: a major issue. So anyone that's interested, you know, and

476
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 3: I know for sure I can actually understand from the

477
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 3: concept of that feast or famine season that happens in music,

478
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 3: right There's gonna be times where you're super hot, everybody

479
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 3: wants you for a club appearance, everybody wants to book

480
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 3: you for tour. Then you're in between albums and you're like, mm,

481
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: where you know what we got going on? You know, saying,

482
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 3: So the ability to actually set up a financial infrastructure

483
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 3: so it's smoothed out. And if you have a couple,

484
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: you know, you have a couple of dollars put away,

485
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 3: they're gonna work for you and they're gonna work for

486
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: you in a really powerful way. So that's that's really,

487
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: you know, that's really what I've been working on now.

488
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 4: So let me ask you, right, Because when Twitter first

489
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 4: came out, I'm the boso. I thought that this was

490
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 4: just between me and the fans. I had no idea

491
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: that other people could see the same conversation.

492
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: Public I knew it was. I thought if you, I

493
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: didn't know, if you wasn't following me, you can.

494
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,239
Speaker 4: Still see my messages, like you can go on my thing.

495
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 4: I thought this was just for my fans, and I

496
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 4: had to learn the hard way the buckers just being nosy.

497
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 4: Most of these motherfuckers wasn't fans, they were just being nosy.

498
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 4: How did you make your super phone?

499
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: Like?

500
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: Did you know that through Twitter and my Space? Did

501
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: you learn that? Yes, I got caught.

502
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 4: I was giving out my phone number and I didn't

503
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 4: want to, like you know what I'm saying. It was

504
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 4: like it was bad, but it was bad for me.

505
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 3: But I think I think where that really was born

506
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: from is you know when we first and I say weird,

507
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: was really just me and one of my brothers, Rashid Richmond.

508
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: Started the company.

509
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and basically, you know, he was actually and he's

510
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 3: always been super early. So he he had actually built

511
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: a social network and was exchanging emails with Mark Zuckerberg.

512
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 3: Like that's how early he was on building social networks, right,

513
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: and he's still you know, send me the screenshots, et cetera.

514
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 3: So he basically was like, look, right, if you if

515
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: you check out the the MySpace music charts, I want

516
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 3: you to check out who's number one today, and then tomorrow,

517
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 3: I want you to call me and check out who's

518
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 3: number one tomorrow. And he had a way that he

519
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: could actually manipulate, yes, early, and he could make anybody

520
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 3: number one on MySpace music. Now this wasn't a Billboard

521
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: music chart, but he was that early in the game

522
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: to understand that.

523
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: Social financial repe I don't remember what, I don't ever

524
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: making money up for my space no.

525
00:27:53,359 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: Deals, Yes, yes, Zach right, And that's exactly how it

526
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 3: worked for me. So I already was doing records inside

527
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: of you know, the record label ecosystem. But one of

528
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: my biggest challenges or gripes was that I would do

529
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: records and then I have to wait. I gotta wait

530
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 3: until the album's done. I gotta wait until this time

531
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: for you know, such and such to be mixed. I

532
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: gotta wait until you know whatever release states, et cetera.

533
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: Sometimes my records wouldn't even come out. You know, you

534
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 3: feel like you have some great on an album and

535
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 3: then all they've decided to move a whole different way,

536
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying creatively, So I decided that

537
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: I wanted to actually sign an artists do the whole album,

538
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: top to bottom. I didn't have the whole thing, the

539
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: whole yeah, well produced the whole thing, right, the whole thing.

540
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: I didn't have no big studio, you know. I was

541
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: in a one bedroom apartment in Harlem. But we made

542
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: that whole Cassie album. And I called my boy Rashid.

543
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 3: I said, yo, listen, I don't know what these MySpace

544
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: music charts really mean, but can you get my project now?

545
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: This thing that?

546
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 3: Can you get my project that I'm working on number

547
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: one on the chart? He said, yeah, what do it

548
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: looked like? I said, okay, let's just send you a

549
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 3: pa oh. He said, yo, this is out of here, right,

550
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: so just a picture and then we had me and

551
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 3: you the record. That thing went crazy on MySpace. It's

552
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: still actually kind of going crazy now. I mean that

553
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: record still that we're talking about, you know, almost twenty

554
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: years later, it still has a life of its own.

555
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: But that's really how it all started. And so we

556
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: had built for Cassie like a quarter million an audience

557
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: on MySpace in terms of friends, right, and then all

558
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: of a sudden it became a graveyard. Everyone moved to

559
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: Twitter or they moved to something else. And I say, yo,

560
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: all those people, we don't have access to all those

561
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: people no more. And I said, look, that's a I

562
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: feel like I'm I was just renting the audience from

563
00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 3: that platform. I should own the relationship. I felt like, hey,

564
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: you know, what is what really is our oldest social handle.

565
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 3: I feel like Instagram has done a great job now

566
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: dms you actually, you know, you can kind of get

567
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: a sense of you know, messaging you, and you know,

568
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: when they send you a message, you get a chance

569
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: to kind of see what they've been up to you Yeah,

570
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 3: I just saw you. But even before that, I feel

571
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: like the cell phone number is the oldest social handle

572
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 3: because it allows you to actually, you know, have a

573
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: personal line of communication, which is like you said, is

574
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: private right. And so basically I said, look if I

575
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 3: really want to have a real relationship with someone. And actually,

576
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 3: I'll still challenge anybody today if we went across this

577
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: room and say, yo, go in your phone, scroll all

578
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: the way down. How many contexts do you have in

579
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: your phone? Over the course of your life, You've collected

580
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: thousands of contexts. The reality is you're probably only in

581
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 3: touch with three percent maximum. Sure, so if you got

582
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: a thousand people in your phone, maybe it's thirty that

583
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: you maybe if that that you're talking to all the time,

584
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: right unless you unless you's your job, you're a salesman

585
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: or a manager or something like that. So my concept

586
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: was I would prefer to actually have a direct cell

587
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: phone on everyone because if people feel as though I'm

588
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: someone of influence in their life because of the music,

589
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: then I'm gonna have a high rank if they feel like, Yo,

590
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: I got Ryan Leslie's cell phone, you know what I'm saying.

591
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: I got Ryan's number and more personal and it changed.

592
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: But it got to be a headache too. You know,

593
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: you got to have that one fan that hits you all.

594
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 4: The time for sure, because he's ten dollars one time

595
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 4: you think you just want to be there, I gotta

596
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 4: be annoying people's annoying story.

597
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 3: No, actually, I think you'd be surprised. Man, I think

598
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: I think, And let's be real, let's be real. Okay,

599
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: let's just say, all right, you know you actually meet

600
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: someone that you truly respect. Right, let's say you you

601
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: you went somewhere, you even met Barack Obama and he

602
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: gave you his cell phone number. Are you really going

603
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: to abuse that? Probably not? Probably not.

604
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: Now, you're right, some fans, there's a lot of them.

605
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: Some people don't got class exactly exactly.

606
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: But we built the software in such a way that

607
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: you know, we we have safeguards in place, right, because

608
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: you know.

609
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: What's funny, To this day, I have a friend that

610
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: I met through my Space because he he jacked me

611
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: on my stake.

612
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he jacked he actually ran my profile and like yeah,

613
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: and I was like, you know.

614
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: He hacked me. Yeah, And I'm friends with him to

615
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: this day because he was good. He's not working there

616
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: anymore because he can get he's not working in the more.

617
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 4: But when we used to take I'm sorry, IM sorry,

618
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna sidetracked, but.

619
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: I mean we just we like if someone made a

620
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: disc record against me, I would take their whole page.

621
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 3: Back then.

622
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he worked there, so he was.

623
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 4: He was a super Norwy fan and we became friends.

624
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 4: So you are absolutely right. He could have easily, but

625
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 4: I didn't respond. He could easily turned into like one

626
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 4: of those super fans because like he was telling me,

627
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 4: you recons I forgot about doing.

628
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: It, and to this day we're friends, so you are.

629
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: And I think he did that because he thought somebody

630
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: was impersonating you.

631
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 3: Yes, that's why the person Ye. Yeah, So I mean

632
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: I haven't really had any crazy. Well actually I'm I'm.

633
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: Let's get let's go there.

634
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: Okay, I do have a crazy. I do have a

635
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: crazy And you know what, I honestly believed that that

636
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: this person is mentally ill. So I don't want to

637
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: know or whatever, but this person's mentally ill. And they

638
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: would literally find me on every channel, Twitter, Instagram, Discord,

639
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: cell phone, everything and was like, oh you know. And

640
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 3: actually I've had stories where people felt like they Someone

641
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 3: actually pulled up at h at at at the at

642
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: our spot in Financial District and was like, yo, you

643
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: know we're married, right, I say, what you talking about?

644
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: Now?

645
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: We married? I got the whole certificate and everything, and

646
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: I sent you money and this and that, and I'm like, Yo,

647
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: this type of stuff is actually happening out here, you

648
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But I said, look, you know,

649
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, miss, but like we're not married. You know

650
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It is wild.

651
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: It is wild. Yeah.

652
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 4: Oh man, So hold on, okay, this is one Kuck

653
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 4: Thomas Slime. Well, first off, before we do with Qrick

654
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 4: Thomas Slime, we want you to know our show is about,

655
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: you know, giving people they flowers while they're alive. We

656
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 4: wanted to give you your flowers. You are one of

657
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 4: the most remarkable people in this world.

658
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: We wanted to let you go there, Chris, because I'm

659
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with.

660
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 4: You, the first and the fifth person to ever do

661
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 4: something is always that risk taker.

662
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 2: Right.

663
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 4: Most of the time the reward is worth it. But

664
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 4: the fact is that you three sixty to yourself.

665
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: Think about it. You can throw your own merchan you control.

666
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 4: When I found out that you were selling the tickets direct, yeah,

667
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 4: shows it's smart, but that's a lot of work.

668
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, are you physically doing that?

669
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? So the way that we've had to do it,

670
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 3: like let's just say we're going to do a venue

671
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: in New York. We ad the venues have deals with

672
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: Ticketmaster or whatever the vendors are, so we buy out

673
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: all the tickets and then we are the we are

674
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: we are our own resellers. So when people come and

675
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: get the tickets we said, we could say, Yo, the

676
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: whole venue sold out already. But that's because I can

677
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 3: just go. If it's an eight hundred seater, I'm still doing,

678
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 3: you know, theater. So I see the eight hundred seater. Bang,

679
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: we get all the tickets and then people text in

680
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: and we just send them.

681
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: What you're doing is you're buying them from Ticketmaster, Yes,

682
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: at a wholesale rate or regular Well.

683
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 3: We bught we buy up because we want to We

684
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: want the stats that we've sold out.

685
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: So you're also buying the stats by buying all the tickets. Yes,

686
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: all the books sold out already, and then you could

687
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: do whatever you want with yes, exactly.

688
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 4: The Actually, how about like states like Miami, Like states

689
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 4: like Miami became like a New New York. What I

690
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 4: mean is they're not impressed by nothing, right and right,

691
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 4: y'all know this, yea know how foul y'all all out here.

692
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: They all know this, right, So but this is this

693
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: is a this is like a market.

694
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 4: Like they come out if they want to what happens

695
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 4: if you you buy out and then only fifty percent?

696
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: Do you lose money? Nah?

697
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: We always have Okay, you know our process. Our process

698
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: is a reservation.

699
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: Okay.

700
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: So we'll say, hey, look, we're going to do one

701
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 3: night only Miami for example, right and we'll say, hey, look,

702
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: if you're interested, reserve and tell me how many tickets

703
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: you want to reserve.

704
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: Extent I keep forgetting.

705
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: So they come in, they fill out a little form,

706
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 3: they say, Yo, I want five tickets, I want two

707
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 3: VIPs et cetera. We already know before before we go

708
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 3: to the venue, and we might actually say, yo, we

709
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: need a bigger venue. You we are our reservations. It's

710
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: crazy right now, you know what I'm saying. And I

711
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: think that's really it's nuanced. At the same time, though,

712
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: it's a very simple, let's call it. It's just a

713
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: very simple sort of transition to the information age. If

714
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: we're in the information age, we should be making decisions

715
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: based on information, right, based on information and data. So

716
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 3: if you have a means to collect that information and data,

717
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 3: then your decisions are just going to be better business wise.

718
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: You're never going to be holding a bag on anything, right,

719
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: And so that's the reason why even if you think

720
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: about brand new artists that are coming out trying to

721
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: do merch now, they have just on demand printing, so

722
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 3: you don't have to go buy seventy ninety one hundred

723
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: T shirts. You just say, hey, look, this is the

724
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: logo that I want, this is what it looks like,

725
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: and then through your e commerce store, they will only

726
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 3: print and ship what has been ordered. You know what

727
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And so we're getting better and better and

728
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: better are and more efficient at being able to allow

729
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 3: creative minds to build enterprise around themselves. And I think,

730
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: you know, there's there's I think there's no better time

731
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: to actually be an entrepreneur than twenty twenty four and beyond.

732
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: I think I think a lot of people have an

733
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 2: issue processing the analytics of things to understand it the

734
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: way you might understand. Not everybody has that knowledge to say, Okay,

735
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: this is what these analytics mean, and this is how

736
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: I equal it to.

737
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 1: This marketing plan. Yeah, execute it this way.

738
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would say this, You're you're only as

739
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: good as your crew, right, and if you're the creative

740
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 3: in the crew bring in, then you can't you can't

741
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 3: say like, yo, I'm going to be the three sixty everything.

742
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 3: In some cases maybe you know you you're just like, oh,

743
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: you have extra hours in the day and you can

744
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 3: do four hours of music and four hours of data analytics.

745
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 3: But you have to think this industry, the creative industry,

746
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 3: whether it's film, whether it's podcast, whether it's YouTube, whether

747
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: it's influencing, whether it's music. You have so many people

748
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 3: that are magnetically attracted to this industry. They want to

749
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: be around it, but they're not creative. They are the analytic.

750
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: They are the analytical person, they are the management person,

751
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 3: they are the operations person. And it's just once again,

752
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 3: I think it's just about putting the bat signal out

753
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: and saying, look, I want the greatest of the great

754
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 3: to be around If you think what I'm doing is great,

755
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: I want the greatest of the grade around me. And

756
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 3: you build that team.

757
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 4: Now, when you open up the site, did you take

758
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 4: your music off of Spotify? And I'm iteling yes, And

759
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 4: now you do you think now that same usic you

760
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 4: put back on your platform, do you think that helps

761
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 4: will hurt you.

762
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: I think it helps. And the reason for it is

763
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 3: because when you really you know, at the very beginning,

764
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: it was more about doing the experiment because we needed

765
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 3: to do the experiment, make sure it works. And you know,

766
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: these are the type of conversations I was having with Nip.

767
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 3: Nip did is proud to pay?

768
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

769
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Zach, how you guys?

770
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: You guys?

771
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And really that's that's

772
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 3: that's got to be through through through my guy Nathan McCartney.

773
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: If you haven't even been noticing what Nate has been doing,

774
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: he has an Instagram profile called the Bag. It's crazy

775
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 3: data analytics about the music business and everything. If you

776
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 3: check the followers of that page, it's like somebody Who's who?

777
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 3: And I'm talking about music, film, investment, et cetera. But

778
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: he's always wanted been one of these guys that's had

779
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 3: his ears to the ground and was one of the

780
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: first guys that that that worked with me on superphone

781
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 3: as well. But he actually was the one that put

782
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 3: me with it.

783
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, actually, I don't know. We're bouncing around, yeah,

784
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 4: but we're going to cover all grounds. He comes to

785
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 4: you and says, I want to sell a take for

786
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 4: one thousand dollars.

787
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And basically you didn't think he was out of

788
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 3: his mind, nah, because he had already he had already done.

789
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: That's right, you know what I'm saying. That's the one

790
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: that they bought a thousand of them? Yeah, yeah, what

791
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: a thousand of the Now he bought a hundred. So

792
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 2: that was the screenshot the ten bands. One hundred albums

793
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: out one hundred dollars, ten bands, right, So he had

794
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: already done that. But he said, yo, right, listen, you

795
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: know I've been looking at what you were doing.

796
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: Like we just sat down and compared notes, and I say, hey, look,

797
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you. If you allow folks

798
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 3: to actually give you what they believe is worth to them,

799
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: and you don't put the price on it, then there

800
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 3: will be some folks that will come through and say, hey,

801
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: I think your music has changed my life. It got

802
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 3: me through whatever I've had. Folks come to me, and

803
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: actually this is for any artists.

804
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: Yo.

805
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: Your song got me through a breakup, your song got

806
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: me through cancer, your song got me through whatever it was,

807
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: and to them it's priceless. So if they have it,

808
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 3: they'll give it and if you don't put a cap

809
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: on what you think it's worth. Hey, it's worth twelve dollars.

810
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: Then I was showing him in my superphone. Hey, I

811
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: got folks that have spent twenty five five grand, you know,

812
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: fifteen twenty five with me. He's like, yo, off a

813
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: twelve dollars album, and I say yeah, because once you

814
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: build a relationship, they'll tell you what they want in

815
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: terms of what's premium. And so when he was putting

816
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 3: the whole package together, it wasn't just Yo, here's the

817
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: CD four thousand. You got to go to a show

818
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: or you know some I got a phone call, whatever

819
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 3: it was, and I say, yo, man, let's do it.

820
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: And you have the app, and you got all the data,

821
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: and you know every single person where they live, in

822
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 3: their zip code, and then you know what I'm saying,

823
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 3: and you can actually show them your appreciation for their support.

824
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: It's all the stuff that you did.

825
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: And then even what you're describing here pre Patreon, because

826
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: it sounds like the Patreon model.

827
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pre Patreon's crazy.

828
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, let's say it in your intro.

829
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 4: It's like your real threat to the industry because if

830
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 4: they have more of view.

831
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: What are they needed for listen nervous.

832
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: I never worry about that for the simple reason that

833
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: when it's your time, it's just your time, and you

834
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 3: have to do the most that you can with the

835
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 3: decades that you have. And we really only get three

836
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: four if we talk about decades, you know what I'm saying,

837
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: And we're lucky if we get three or four of them,

838
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So you have to do

839
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 3: the most that you can with the decades that you have.

840
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: And if I really think about it, some of the

841
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: artists that we still revere to this day, there's this

842
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 3: concept of like the artist's age of reckoning, where like

843
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 3: some of our greatest were all gone by like twenty

844
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: eight Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, and so

845
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 3: they did what they had to do with the time

846
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 3: that they had.

847
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: So for me, I'm like, yo, I've had plenty of decades,

848
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 2: you know, And so if what I'm able to do

849
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: is plant the seeds, whether it's plant the seeds for

850
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: like you said, a Patreon or you know, any of

851
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: the superphone competitors that have come out right and clones

852
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: that have come out, or plant the seeds for the

853
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: next artists to be able to know what to do

854
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 2: with their money, how to do it with their money

855
00:43:59,480 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: the right way.

856
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: I think, you know, there is a possibility to actually

857
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: have a like a real creative middle class, right because

858
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 3: you know, for me, and going back to the beginning

859
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 3: of the conversation, for me going to Harvard and then

860
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: saying I want to be in music, everyone just assumed

861
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: I was going to be broken. Just assume they just say, Yo,

862
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 3: you want to be creative, you want to be in

863
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: the arts. You're going to be starving for a long time.

864
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: You may you might might just get that break where

865
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: you you're the one percent that actually gets on. But

866
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: I think as you're talking about, if you understand how

867
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: the data works, as Nip was talking about, you understand

868
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: how to connect with that core group. It doesn't matter,

869
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 3: even if it's just a product that's not music, even

870
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 3: if it's just a you know, you're you're starting a

871
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 3: coffee brand, you're starting to liquor brand. Whatever. You find

872
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: that core group and you can appeal to them, they

873
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 3: will be loyal. And I think it allows for there

874
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: to be an actual creative middle class where you can

875
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: actually and it's tough though, because that's almost like a

876
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 3: that's almost like an oxymoron. And I'm gonna tell you why,

877
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: because most folks, when they think creative, they don't want

878
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: to be middle class. You know. It's like it's like

879
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: when when you say, you know what you take, I

880
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: rapped for the drive. That's not what you're doing it for.

881
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: But the bottom line is that if you're doing what

882
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: you love to do, and what if you can, yeah,

883
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: if you can earn a living doing what you love

884
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: to do, how valuable is that you made it? How

885
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: valuable is that you know what I'm saying? And so really,

886
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 3: for me, I think, really that's that's the crusade that

887
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: I'm also I'm not worried about, you know, if it's

888
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: my time or you know, all the greats, the greatest

889
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 3: of the great their their impact was even more exponentially

890
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 3: increase by the fact that, you know, maybe folks felt

891
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: that they were going too soon. Where you talk about Martin,

892
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: you talk about X, you talk about Nipsey, you talk

893
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 3: about Bob Marley, you talk about Pack because Jimmy Hendrick,

894
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: the body of work that they have, that's all you got.

895
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: And then you start realizing, man to be that age

896
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 3: and be talking like that, playing like that, thinking like that,

897
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and it sets the bar

898
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: for us that are actually still here. We're still here,

899
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 3: so we better be continuing to push. You know what

900
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

901
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: Am I hearing you? Correct?

902
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: And when you say that, you're happy enough with just

903
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: planning the seed almost like you believe in what you're saying.

904
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: Open source is an open source.

905
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: So everybody could go do this, yes, because I would

906
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 2: hate for corporations won't name any companies to take.

907
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: Your idea and then run with it and then monopolize

908
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: that what you at. Yes.

909
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was one of the first investors in Super

910
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 3: Cool record label.

911
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: For lack of a better term, they are participating, so

912
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: I think make the stallion at something Yes too.

913
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Cardi Bad Bunny zaying from one direction, Miley Cyrus.

914
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: The record label. They're doing this through you direct.

915
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 3: It depends sometimes their management company, sometimes just to the label.

916
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I mean, I would think in

917
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: order for artists to reap the same benefits of you,

918
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: the only how they can do that is they do

919
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: the direct to you.

920
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: And I think that goes I think that goes to

921
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 3: your question. Once the knowledge is open source, then it

922
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: allows for folks to build on it and and iterate,

923
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And I think that's just

924
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 3: the human cycle. We got it. We have to enhance

925
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 3: and iterate, you know what I'm saying.

926
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: For lack of a better terms, you are like the

927
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: Steve Jobs of this. So you know what I'm saying, Like,

928
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: let me take that of it. You know what I'm saying.

929
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 4: So it's like, it's like, that's what I's that's that's

930
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 4: That's the one thing I want to commend our community

931
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 4: is that if we know, if we have the information,

932
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 4: we'll go support the information. A lot of people don't

933
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 4: have the information, and a lot of people are probably saying.

934
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: Well, this guy is super smart. He went to Harvard.

935
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: He's the only one who can do it.

936
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 4: But just saying it's it's it's I went to Harvard

937
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 4: and I am swerper smart, but I'm not the only

938
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 4: one that can do it. And you'll get down like

939
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 4: for me search and I love the fact that I

940
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 4: see Megan has something in your black home. I love

941
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 4: the fact that I found out nut that to you.

942
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: You think that's going to be more popular, like more

943
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 4: artists gonna come. Do you think Jay Z would drop

944
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 4: an album on your platform?

945
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think honestly, I think it's I

946
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: think it's all possible. I think it's all possible. And

947
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, for me, it's just about,

948
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: like I said, being of service. So if this is

949
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 3: a way I could be of service, then great. If

950
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: it's more on the money tip and people want to

951
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 3: figure out, hey, I just got my advance. I don't

952
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 3: want to mess it up, you know what I'm saying.

953
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 3: I can do it that way as well. But I'm

954
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 3: in a great place. I'm in. Uh, you know, I'm

955
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: super blessed, and so you know, as much as I

956
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 3: can give what I found is the more that I give.

957
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 3: You know, my parents are religious, so they say, look,

958
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 3: the more you give, the more your cup will be filled,

959
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 3: so that you can give more, you know what I'm saying.

960
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 3: So I'm good where I'm good.

961
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. You ever thought the music business would come down

962
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: to this, like, because it's like it's so much disposable

963
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: music out there in the nineties, in the two thousand

964
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: and I don't want to sound like that old guy.

965
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 4: Oh in my day, right, But I'm just gonna just

966
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 4: just to deal with the facts. It felt like music

967
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 4: when it was when it was analog. He had to

968
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 4: be in the studio together. It felt like the music

969
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 4: was better. Doesn't that I feel like that. I'm super

970
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 4: I'm in that world too. I listened to.

971
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 3: Thriller, right, and I listened to those records I listened to,

972
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 3: you know, and actually one of the folks that really

973
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 3: put me onto this was Tommy Mottola. So my first

974
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: my first record was with Casablanca. So I had records

975
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: and I came in and played it for Tommy and

976
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 3: he said, yo, right, these are good. But I got

977
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 3: my guy t bone Walk, and he's just gonna come

978
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 3: in and just play play the records for him and

979
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 3: just see what he come up with. Man, this guy

980
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: came in and put baseline lines and Tommy Mattola was

981
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 3: playing guitar because he because Sony's music studios are still

982
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: open at that time. He come in And so I

983
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 3: think there is a there is a there's a certain

984
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: magic of that time in that era, which is probably

985
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 3: nostalgic for me, you know what I'm saying. But I mean, listen,

986
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: you know, each generation has their own you know what,

987
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 3: what what matters to them? You know what I'm saying.

988
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 3: I think for me, I'm just an old I'm old

989
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 3: school like that. You know what I'm saying, It matters

990
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: to me.

991
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 4: I love analog. Yeah, where were you at when you

992
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 4: heard that? Kanye kind of like challenge.

993
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: A whole court. He did it on here, but he

994
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: kept going.

995
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 4: It just happened here, But like that was like, now,

996
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 4: I'm smarter, right now, I see that he Actually I didn't.

997
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was living in them. I was

998
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: living in history.

999
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 4: Now that it's history, it's like, damn, it's the first

1000
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 4: time you've seen a person.

1001
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: I don't want you to say a black person.

1002
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 4: I don't want to say a person period company and

1003
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 4: then kind of like prove it like not the racist part.

1004
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: But the fact is that they kind of kept selling

1005
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: the sneakers. They kind of like like and was where

1006
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: was you when you found out this? How you've got

1007
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: a relationship with you? Yeah?

1008
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 3: I really I kind of live in my own bubble,

1009
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So I'll see little things

1010
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 3: that are happening, but I mostly invest my energy, time

1011
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: and resources where I can make a difference, and so

1012
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: in that struggle, that's his struggle, maybe a phone call

1013
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 3: of support is the most that I could offer. When

1014
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the artists that come to me and

1015
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 3: they you know, they're not taking on a corporation head on,

1016
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 3: but they want to take care of their mom or

1017
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 3: they want to do whatever. I know that my time,

1018
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 3: energy and resources is well spent, and I can see

1019
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 3: the impact and the result of the investment that I'm making.

1020
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 3: So you know, I think I might have just been,

1021
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: you know, just wherever I was when I saw it,

1022
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 3: and say, hey, look, you know, more power to those

1023
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: who are fighting those fights. And I know where my

1024
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: actual strengths are. I know where my muscle per se

1025
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 3: can actually add value, because I.

1026
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: Would think that him and Todd Dallas signs of poaches,

1027
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: but a.

1028
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 4: Loongs on your platform, Hey, let's make it happen. Not

1029
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 4: because you have to think about it, all the things

1030
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: that YE just talking about and been through. Then you

1031
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 4: come to find out that Voltures was on Atlantic and

1032
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 4: you're like, what that didn't.

1033
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 1: Make sense to me. I remember it was your monopoly

1034
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: or some of it a tweet and it's like this

1035
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: whole time I thought this is what you was fighting

1036
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: for to be independent and then come to find out

1037
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: you got a secret deal with Atlantic. It does does

1038
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: not make me mad.

1039
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 4: It just makes me disappointed because I'm just like, Wow,

1040
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 4: I thought we were fighting for independency.

1041
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 3: Hey, and I'm willing to be in the trenches and

1042
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 3: fight for it with whoever wants to actually fight that fight.

1043
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 3: Some folks they don't want to fight to fight. They

1044
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 3: actually they actually just want to be creative. They don't

1045
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 3: want the actual added weight of actually having all of

1046
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 3: their customer data. They want to just you know, And

1047
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 3: it depends on where you are in life. What is

1048
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 3: it that matters to you, you know what I'm saying.

1049
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 3: But if you want to run your creative business and

1050
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 3: enterprise at a data driven level, which is how every

1051
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 3: great multi trillion dollar business runs their enterprise, Amazon knows

1052
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 3: everything you've ever done on their platform, everything you've looked at,

1053
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 3: they know. Instagram knows everything you've done on their platform,

1054
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: everything you've looked at, they know every conversation you've had,

1055
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 3: whether you give them permission to or not, it's on

1056
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 3: their servers. Right. So if you decide that you want

1057
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 3: to actually shoot for multi trillion dollar status, which now

1058
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 3: there are several companies that have reached multi trillion dollar status.

1059
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 3: We saw in video get to multi trillion dollar status

1060
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 3: just this year. You have to run it and assume

1061
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 3: the responsibility of managing, navigating, and analyzing that data and so.

1062
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 1: And there's the AI tools to help you get out.

1063
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 3: Of course, of course, of course, but you have to

1064
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 3: have a desire to do it. So it's almost like

1065
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 3: people will say, well, why so and so selling their publishing, Well,

1066
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: it's because they would like to actually have bring forward

1067
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 3: the actual revenue to today and let somebody else wait

1068
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 3: for the revenue payoffs, right, And somebody will say, well,

1069
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 3: you know, that's your annuity, that's your retirement plan. But

1070
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 3: if you get two hundred million dollars up front, that's

1071
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 3: tw hundred million dollars of front. You could do with

1072
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 3: that what you want to do now, at the health

1073
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 3: and strength that you have now, then waiting fourteen fifteen

1074
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 3: years for that two hundred million to trickle in, you

1075
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So, I think everybody has their

1076
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 3: different motivations and desires for how they want to run

1077
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 3: their business, and more power to them for those that

1078
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: want to run it at that level to have that

1079
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 3: infrastructure technologically, analytically, then that's what we're here to help

1080
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 3: out with.

1081
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 4: Now, what life would have been like if you never

1082
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 4: lost that laptop and you made Watch the Dome album.

1083
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 3: Wow, Well, I mean, actually we can look at the trajectory.

1084
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 3: I'll probably be hit boy, there's nothing wrong with that.

1085
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: It's nothing wrong with that.

1086
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 3: It's nothing wrong.

1087
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 4: Okay, because I think it's imparis I'm trying to yeah, Okay, okay, okay.

1088
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Okay, And there's nothing wrong

1089
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 3: with that. And I think he's had a he's had

1090
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 3: an incredible run. Yeah classic, yeah to me, we know,

1091
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But I think I think

1092
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 3: the world in the universe and God shows you where

1093
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 3: your light can really shine, you know what I'm saying.

1094
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 3: And that's how I really feel like. There are folks

1095
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 3: that come to me yo, man yo, your studio videos, yo.

1096
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 3: You know, like we just did a tiny desk, you

1097
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And the bottom line is, I

1098
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: feel like the gauntlet has been passed. You know what

1099
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,479
Speaker 3: I'm saying. We passed the mantle on now I'm doing

1100
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 3: what the producer could actually do they can't do that.

1101
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 4: Because I like, I don't when people say everything is

1102
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 4: meant to be. Sometimes I think life makes a mistake

1103
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 4: too sometimes because I just think I don't think like

1104
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 4: would that record would have sound like what you hold?

1105
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: And yeah, man, we got at that moment.

1106
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 4: At that moment, I'm trying to figure out what because

1107
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 4: you went hard for the laptop when that happens, so yeah,

1108
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 4: and then I yeah, I kind of find out that

1109
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,479
Speaker 4: was one of the reasons wives because you had watched

1110
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 4: the Throne.

1111
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: Yes, so they never came out, never came out, you

1112
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: got That's why it's in the laptop.

1113
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 3: Right, you ain't got it never came out.

1114
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: I want to hear how that record style, you know

1115
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: what I mean as a fan, as a fan, I

1116
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: want to hear that copies of that anywhere now.

1117
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 3: I mean maybe maybe they have because we were recording

1118
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 3: out in Bath, England. So whoever that engineer is, he

1119
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 3: has he got Yeah, he has a big He.

1120
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 5: Gonna tell that somebody he goes nobody he got him.

1121
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 4: Now let me ask you, being the fact that you

1122
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 4: have this direct relationship to your fanst We'll take a

1123
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 4: couple of years.

1124
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: Back to the album yes, and the album was just

1125
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: for one of one. One of one is one is

1126
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: that something you've ever been offered to do? And two

1127
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: would you do it? Yeah?

1128
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 3: So I don't me personally, I truly believe that music

1129
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 3: is forever to be distributed. Right. It is a strange

1130
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 3: business model, right, I think it's an extremely strange business

1131
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 3: model because literally I've seen art and it's hard to

1132
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 3: wrap your brain around, especially down here are bossles down here.

1133
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 3: Sometimes you go into these galleries and you literally see

1134
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 3: it's a canvas and it's all red, and that's that's

1135
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 3: the whole thing.

1136
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: Garbage on the floor or whatever.

1137
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 3: But it's literally someone paid twelve million or twenty two

1138
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: million dollars or a hundred million for it, you know

1139
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 3: what I mean. So that doesn't exist in music, you know,

1140
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I think Wu Tang was at least shooting

1141
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 3: for that. But I think the difference with music is

1142
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 3: that it's it's created so that many can enjoy it,

1143
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1144
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 4: You're right about that. I go to art be every year.

1145
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 4: I haven't seen the paint and I like yet.

1146
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: I have not seen ones we like her on the

1147
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: walls outside you know what it is.

1148
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 4: It's not meant for me, this is not this is

1149
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 4: not for me. I'm here for the advance. I'm here

1150
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 4: to talk and kissing babies.

1151
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: But but there's some scamming it too, that's not Yeah,

1152
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 2: it's an incredible viehic for.

1153
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: People. There's people using exactly absolutely absolutely, So we want

1154
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: to do quick time s line. Let's go. Let's go.

1155
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 2: One thing when we talk about the number thing we

1156
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: can't forget. We got shout up Mike Jones. He was

1157
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: doing the yeah, yeah, you know Texas. He was on something.

1158
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 3: Yes, it was.

1159
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 4: I always thought ya, I wasn't giving out your real numbers.

1160
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 4: This is your real number?

1161
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 3: Really?

1162
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, we're doing here, right guys.

1163
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so do you want to get a designated drinker? Yeah,

1164
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: because you ain't drinking. Look before we go on, before

1165
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: we go on. This is a certain thing that I

1166
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: love about having this job.

1167
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 4: One is to see if the guest is drinking and

1168
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 4: what they are drinking, right, and we always bet, well

1169
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 4: if they're gonna be on time or not.

1170
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I lost to you to say you came at

1171
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: four four. I was like, he's going to be here early.

1172
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: And then the other thing that was was was very impressible.

1173
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: Man.

1174
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet on you lost whatever about it. We

1175
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: had the circle of block. Okay, okay, okay, yeah, but

1176
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: you got to be in there better. But I thought

1177
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: when we did this that she was going to have,

1178
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: like it's always someone say this is off the table

1179
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: and you can't ask that. I thought you was going to.

1180
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 4: I almost bet that she was going to say this

1181
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 4: is off the table, this is that. And when I

1182
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 4: found out that you did not say none of that,

1183
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 4: I was like, Wow, this guy is about that life.

1184
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's that's all. Yeah, you'll be surprised or ship.

1185
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 4: We go through and people two minutes.

1186
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: Before, as many of y'all know, drink Chance wants to

1187
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 2: give flowers, but people are here to receive them, giving

1188
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: flowers and celebrating our legends while they can still smell us.

1189
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 2: We have partnered with What the Flowers to create this

1190
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: movement where everyone can give flowers to the legends in

1191
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Speaker 2: their lives. You can now order a custom flower box

1192
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: for to someone you want to show appreciation to you

1193
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Speaker 2: by visiting w w W dot w T flowers dot com.

1194
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 3: Orders.

1195
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna go first. We want to get them a

1196
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: designated rive. I explained, Can you explain.

1197
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna give you two names, two places to things,

1198
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 2: and this is really just to bring up people, places

1199
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: and things stories like anybody, you pick one and nobody drinks.

1200
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: If you pick one, okay, nobody drinks. But if you

1201
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 2: say both or neither of them, like you don't really

1202
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 2: want to answer it, then we all drink the table drinks.

1203
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: If you have a designated drinkers at Oh, Michael, yeah,

1204
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 2: I a lot.

1205
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: He look like you got drunk a lot of vacuum.

1206
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 3: That changes.

1207
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So please, any stories come up with anybody.

1208
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 2: We're not trying to diss anybody. It's all love for

1209
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: everybody we mentioned.

1210
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,439
Speaker 4: He could be right there, Yeah, be on the side

1211
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 4: of him. Okay, bet he said that's your Barbara, Mike fall.

1212
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,439
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm about to say that it's kind of weird

1213
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: that Barbara are gonna drink cool my bad. Are you ready? Yes,

1214
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: Kanye farrouh. We have a quativity one.

1215
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 3: You said story. I gotta tell a story. No, no, no.

1216
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: The game is you pick one or you pick one

1217
01:01:59,560 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: or none?

1218
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I picked one or none.

1219
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: You can say both, No, you pick and if you pick,

1220
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: we don't drink, right, if you pick one, we don't.

1221
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 3: If I want everybody to drink, I say both.

1222
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: Smart.

1223
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: But we're saying if you've got stories with anything, this

1224
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 2: is really just to bring up names and places and

1225
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 2: people you're working for.

1226
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: Both Okay, Okay, he got a shot? Yeah, slo s

1227
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: better not and baby shots because is okay? Oh yeah, yeah,

1228
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: get to kill the Matt Delly. That was funny. That

1229
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: was funny.

1230
01:02:52,880 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 4: Okay, let him get his drink. Okay, yeah, okay, that's funny.

1231
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: There you go.

1232
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,439
Speaker 4: Okay, Chris Brown or Usher, you gotta take one shot

1233
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 4: off top to catch up Chris Brown Usher both? Damn

1234
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 4: you both in all of this. Fabri kiss, I.

1235
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 3: Know what you're gonna say, Fab's that's that's my guy.

1236
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: I make great music together. How did you guys connect?

1237
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 3: Man my the the late Gray Edwards? You know what

1238
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I had a I had a record

1239
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 3: call used to be and he said, Yo, we're gonna

1240
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 3: get you need a feature on this, and he went

1241
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 3: and got fab and you know what, I was so

1242
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 3: naive early in the game.

1243
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: What do you mean?

1244
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 3: And so we got in the studio and I tried

1245
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 3: to tell Fab I didn't like one of his lines

1246
01:03:58,320 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 3: or something like that.

1247
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: Looking at me, He's like looking at me. I was

1248
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: brand new, I had, I had.

1249
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 3: It was it was my song. And was like, yo,

1250
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 3: I got you know, I got surprised for you go

1251
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 3: in the studio, Fab, you know, and and he said

1252
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 3: something like it could be how it used to be,

1253
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 3: uh because it used to be the charm. I'm early

1254
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 3: like a rooster on a farm with a Jacob exclusive

1255
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 3: on the arm. And I said, I said rooster like

1256
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 3: that's not a good He was like looking at me, like,

1257
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 3: you know, but from there we you know. He said,

1258
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 3: look right, he said, look, this is what I'm known for, right,

1259
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 3: Like you know these type of lines and punch lines.

1260
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 3: That's that's what I'm knowing. So I said, okay, place right.

1261
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: I say, doctor Dre does that all the time. But

1262
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: he was new, he was great new, Okay, okay, okay,

1263
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: brand okay, all right. Swiss and Timberland mm hmm, Swizz,

1264
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: you worked more of a Swiss, right.

1265
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 3: I've actually never I never met Timbo. Never met really

1266
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 3: I mean talk about a super huge student, but never

1267
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 3: met Timbo.

1268
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: Hopefully that changes up to you. Yeah, for sure, Premo

1269
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:34,479
Speaker 1: or p Rock neither. We don't drink. We do drink neither, Okay,

1270
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: any reason why neither? Just no, no influence there.

1271
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 3: Well, no, I just don't have any.

1272
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't.

1273
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 3: I don't have any. You say that I don't have

1274
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 3: a story, right, No, No, it's.

1275
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: Not about.

1276
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 2: Any any criteria to if you picked somebody, it could

1277
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 2: be anything. It doesn't have to be a story. We

1278
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 2: just say if you have a story, he's just so smart.

1279
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: Just over. But sure, okay, So if we go back,

1280
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: like damn you don't like pretty much? You got it? Yeah,

1281
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: Johnny Gill or Ralph Tresvan both. I think you're gonna say,

1282
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: Ralph tres Both, I mean I did that. I did

1283
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: the New Adition record. That's right, both, New Addition, that's right. Well,

1284
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't know who're gonna go with this, Michael Jackson

1285
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: or Prince. And if you got a story with Elip,

1286
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: please chair.

1287
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Speaker 3: We gotta go both?

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01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: You give neither?

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01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 3: Look like both on that.

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Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Good gonna the table any story with m

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Speaker 1: J Prince?

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01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 3: Well, I actually the closest I ever got to having

1293
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 3: a Michael Jackson story was just being around these producers

1294
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 3: from Philly vidaland Dre and they had done they've been

1295
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 3: working with Floyd Tree and I remember being in the

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01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 3: studio session and they were playing the Butterflies record that

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01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 3: Marcia had written for Mike, and I was just like yo,

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01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 3: and I think they had his vocals and it was

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01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 3: that's the closest to an actual store. And then I

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01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 3: think the VMA's one year, I actually was able to

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01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 3: ask Quincy Jones. He was backstage at the VMA, so

1302
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 3: I was able to ask him a question, you know,

1303
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 3: just about that. But that's the closest I've ever been.

1304
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 3: But in terms of just Prince in general, that's a

1305
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 3: whole nother level. In terms of musicianship and independence, he was.

1306
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1307
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 3: And also when you think about it, the legend is

1308
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 3: that he was sixteen years old and he went in

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01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 3: the studio and he didn't have a demo. He just

1310
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 3: went in the studio and just made it in front

1311
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 3: of everybody's and so that really was what inspired That's

1312
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, at like sixteen or seven, team, he

1313
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 3: didn't have the demo, They just say yo, they put

1314
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 3: the tape. And this is back when they were running

1315
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 3: the tapes, you know, what I'm saying. He laid all

1316
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 3: the drums, then he said, you're running back, laid the

1317
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 3: guitar running back, and laid the bass running back, laid

1318
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 3: the vocals, et cetera. So that's really what the blueprint

1319
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 3: was for all of the studio videos that I was making,

1320
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1321
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 4: Speaking of Prince, non source the story on this show

1322
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 4: he's We asked him if anybody ever denied him, and

1323
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 4: he said Prince denied him because he didn't own his

1324
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 4: own Master's. Prince was on but You was loud show.

1325
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 4: He was telling people you own your own ship. So

1326
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 4: imagine that coach IV got the mike Liz for Ralph

1327
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 4: sent him a bunch of beats.

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01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: This story is amazing. And Michael called him and said, no,

1329
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: I want with I want? He was like, if you.

1330
01:08:58,479 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 3: Fact?

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01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 1: I always what your mike listening to me like gatest it.

1332
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 4: Out like something else says like in the back he's

1333
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 4: listening like literally here for rel sweat and like He's like, yo,

1334
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 4: you don't believe it's called And I'm like.

1335
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: What He's like. I took got a form with Michael

1336
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: Jackson's people and they said, if nor gang I wanna beat,

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01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: don't send us to beat. Wow, always bike in the car,

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01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: put a band on. So I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I had a flashback Di Angelo or Anthony Hamilton, the Angelo.

1340
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 2: I heard he's coming up with a new project too.

1341
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 3: Man, even if this man never came out with another project. Yeah,

1342
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 3: the Voodoo album was yeah, absolutely Wu Tang or n

1343
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 3: w a Wu tang.

1344
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: Teddy Riley or Raphael sad m.

1345
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 3: Teddy Riley.

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01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: It was because of proximity of Virginia. I wouldn't say

1347
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:06,480
Speaker 1: that well, I mean Virginia. Well, I mean and Teddy.

1348
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 3: First of all, just right, so Black Street guy. And

1349
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 3: then if you talk about Pharrell Timbo, they came out

1350
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 3: of there, yeah, I mean and Davante and Jojessy. Literally

1351
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 3: I was studying everything those guys, did you know so?

1352
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 3: And they all said Teddy was the he was the

1353
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 3: godfather basically.

1354
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 4: Now, this is what I don't know where you're gonna

1355
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 4: go with This could go either way. I could beat

1356
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 4: on your answer, but I'm gonna think I'm gonna lose

1357
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 4: because you've been shocking me all day. And give us

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01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 4: the story if you got one Quincty Jones or doctor dre.

1359
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: The R and B is pulling you one way and

1360
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 1: then Pop is pulling you the other.

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01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 3: Dre Wow did not know.

1362
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 1: I did not expect that.

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01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 3: No, And the only reason is the in the club

1364
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 3: beat was the beat that that that I basically I

1365
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 3: felt like I modeled my entire career off of just

1366
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 3: the beat itself, because basically, like even right now, I

1367
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 3: could go and basically the simplicity of that and the

1368
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 3: ability even without the lyrics, for me to just actually

1369
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 3: be able to beat box that beat, and how simple

1370
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 3: it was and how it not unbelievable. So when you

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01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 3: think about the biggest record I ever had, I can

1372
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 3: sing that bing bing bing bing bing bing bink and

1373
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,560
Speaker 3: and and if you think about that, how sparse that

1374
01:11:55,800 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 3: is sonically? I mean, so I mean and also to

1375
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 3: be honest, Quincy just seems like worlds apart, even for

1376
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 3: me musically, in terms of what.

1377
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: As a producer, like planet or just historically, how are

1378
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: you seeing worlds apart?

1379
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 3: Well, I'm saying like if somebody came to me and say, Yo,

1380
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 3: here's a forty piece big band orchestra and arrange something

1381
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 3: for Frank Sinatra, Quincy Jones closed his eyes and conducted,

1382
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So I don't even put

1383
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 3: my like, you know, Steve Prince, you know, I don't

1384
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 3: even put myself in that, you know. But when we

1385
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 3: when I think about the reason why I say Dre is,

1386
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 3: I feel like, Okay, I'm not. I wasn't necessarily musically trained.

1387
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if Dre was musically trained, but he

1388
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 3: had there was something first. So that's to be able

1389
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 3: to recognize and be that sort of sonic architect, you

1390
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

1391
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: So that's you know, the next three Mary J. Blise

1392
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: or Eric a bad both, thank you? Yeah, light work both,

1393
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: booth booth both either hit make up or hit boy. Yeah,

1394
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 1: don't look at me neither. I don't.

1395
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 3: I don't. No stories are either one no no stories,

1396
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 3: and remember what the story we're gonna go on this

1397
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 3: forse with stories. That's that.

1398
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: Just make that clear.

1399
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 3: That's your no stories analog or did you.

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01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: You took your shop? Bro Oh, I've been took the shop. Okay,

1401
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: I got another one analog analog and me too.

1402
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 4: I'm with you on that, and then you can go

1403
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:06,799
Speaker 4: to go to the next ones thriller or bad thrillers.

1404
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 1: Tell you it was the thriller, type of dude thriller

1405
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: that I don't know. I just feel like he had

1406
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 1: the jacket at one point, gloves or coming boss like that,

1407
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: like in a good way. A lot of us had

1408
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: that Michael Jackson glove stop righting, yeah, looking around people,

1409
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: not even gonna make eye contact right now. They had

1410
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:31,560
Speaker 1: had the jacket too, had all right, Whitney, Okay, you go,

1411
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: you start Whitney or ritha Whitney, d J Quicker the Riza,

1412
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1413
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 3: Neither.

1414
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: You're neither. Yeah, I'm not used to it. The tupocket

1415
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: d m X.

1416
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 3: POC.

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01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: You got a story, then this is your criteria. Yes, okay,

1418
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 2: but I obviously he was going before way. But but

1419
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,799
Speaker 2: my like I said, we started the whole.

1420
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 3: Cassie project and Rashid literally it was like, yo, I

1421
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 3: don't care who you're listening to, et cetera, et cetera.

1422
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 3: It's all Pac all the way. And also uh poc

1423
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 3: because there was when I I actually was one of

1424
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 3: those kids that went to a band camp and I

1425
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 3: you know, I had camp. I went to a band camp,

1426
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 3: so so you know, I had one of those you know,

1427
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 3: one of those super early adolescent you know crushes, and

1428
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 3: she she basically, you know, I wanted to make records,

1429
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 3: you know, write songs. And she was like, oh, well,

1430
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,560
Speaker 3: you know, I'm doing this song for Mother's Day and

1431
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 3: she she had the Dear Mama song from from back then. Yeah,

1432
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 3: exactly right.

1433
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 4: Cool Isaac Hayes or Curtis Mayfield, mhm, neither. Okay, she

1434
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 4: knows you better go down. Okay, I know where you're

1435
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 4: gonna pick on this one. At least let me take

1436
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 4: the shot.

1437
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 1: I say he's picking the second he's been saying. I

1438
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:39,919
Speaker 1: been saying like James James Brown, James Brown.

1439
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 4: Or Jimmy Hendrix Sun like Jimmy Hendrick and Bob Marley

1440
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 4: is like your your thing, but James Brown both both

1441
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 4: both because you're a fan of Jimmy Hendrick and mar Yeah,

1442
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,759
Speaker 4: like that's that's yeah, but but for different yeah different

1443
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:57,759
Speaker 4: and James Brown.

1444
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, James Brown, James Brown.

1445
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: He came up to me and said, keep saying playing

1446
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: my ship ship Okay.

1447
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 3: I mean, if I look at the Dodging Girl video,

1448
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 3: that's that's a that's a James Brown. That's actually a

1449
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 3: James Brown reference. You know where, because in that video

1450
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 3: I'm wearing the tuxedo. I come down to join. We

1451
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 3: got the band playing. That's that's the actual James Brown reference.

1452
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: Everybody took this shot. Oh I took my shot already,

1453
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: this one. Thank you. So I'm gonna ask you this,

1454
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,560
Speaker 1: but then I'm I'm gonna ask you in exceparately a

1455
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: different way. Major or independent?

1456
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,480
Speaker 3: Major independent? Independent?

1457
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 4: Okay, your first two albums was on Motown. Correct, Yes,

1458
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 4: this is this is This is me being a straight

1459
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 4: spoiled It was hard for me to go from a

1460
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 4: major to independent because I like the four Seasons. I like,

1461
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 4: you know, sether sist And when I went from major independent,

1462
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 4: I had to down grade. I don't know if that's

1463
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 4: the right world, but.

1464
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: It is. Damn yeah, but I had to down grade.

1465
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 3: It was yeah, yeah, like it was. I had to

1466
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 3: go back to the sheriff team. But it was completely

1467
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 3: different from me I had. Like I wasn't a multi

1468
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 3: platinum like I had. There was a lot of respect

1469
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 3: for the musicianship, but it wasn't like our multi platinum

1470
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 3: Billboard number one hits and you know, records and clubs

1471
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 3: and the hottest et cetera, et cetera. But it looked

1472
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 3: like that to us at least it maybe maybe maybe

1473
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 3: maybe it looked like that. But I mean, to be frank,

1474
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 3: we sold one hundred and eighty thousand records the first

1475
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 3: town and sixty thousand on the second. Now, the second

1476
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 3: one we got nominated for a Grammy. But I mean

1477
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 3: that's a total of I mean that's we didn't we

1478
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 3: didn't even you know, and still the era where you

1479
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 3: had to sold like crazy amount of records.

1480
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1481
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 4: Literally, I heard you say this before, but you literally

1482
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 4: made more money for your independent albums than you did now.

1483
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 3: Is that entirety? How about the tours? Yeah, but that's

1484
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I didn't even tour off of those albums.

1485
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying and what you're saying.

1486
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 3: So like once we went independent, then I understood, like, Okay,

1487
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 3: this is how we're going to really get to the money,

1488
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 3: because that's I think. What's so it's very opaque when

1489
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 3: you're a major label. You're at the major label, things

1490
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 3: are paid for, studios paid for, advance is paid for,

1491
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 3: travel is paid for, et cetera. But then once the

1492
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 3: sales come in, unless you reach a certain amount, you

1493
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 3: gotta wait till your next album budget opens up before

1494
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 3: you get paid again.

1495
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: It's a bank yeah, age first deal or something like

1496
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: something like that.

1497
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying. It's just like you know,

1498
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 3: for me, I don't like that opacity. I want to

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Speaker 3: have full trans that again, yes I want yeah, so

1500
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 3: old paid. That means contret you know you want. I

1501
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 3: want full transparency, right, And so that was quote unquote

1502
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 3: none of my business. You know how much did they make?

1503
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: You know?

1504
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 3: And so that's why I really wanted to go independent

1505
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 3: because I was like, Yo, if we sold one hundred

1506
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 3: eighty thousand records the first time, how did I only

1507
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 3: sell We're in the information age, how do I only

1508
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,719
Speaker 3: sell sixty thousand the second time? We should just email

1509
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 3: everybody the first.

1510
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 4: US sales because they could have did that. And like

1511
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 4: you said, they didn't give you the information. So maybe

1512
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 4: you sold because we were saying the records everywhere, so

1513
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 4: we had maybe.

1514
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 3: I truly believe, man, I think that the records were

1515
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 3: favorites amongst artists. So if artists were sending round, yo,

1516
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 3: you heard Ryan's join, et cetera, they were favorites. But

1517
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 3: when I went to Germany, I was not on the radio.

1518
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 3: In Germany, everything was on little mixtapes. People were spending

1519
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 3: it in clubs, et cetera. But there was that real

1520
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 3: ground swell of people that's like, yo, I like this music.

1521
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 4: You know.

1522
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 1: I remember me asking for like account and things like that,

1523
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: and they're telling me that. The recordats saying, oh yeah,

1524
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: we spent five hundred grand in Japan and we spent

1525
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand of Germany and we've been

1526
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 1: we spent this in only in duself my favorite player.

1527
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have Burg Frankfoot, all that, you know, Berlin

1528
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: and all that.

1529
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 2: You know.

1530
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: I've been right some time. But what I'm trying to

1531
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,719
Speaker 1: say is when they did that to me, I couldn't

1532
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:34,560
Speaker 1: like it was I don't know. I don't want to

1533
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 1: say it wasn't ordered in back then. I just didn't

1534
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 1: know about it. There was no way for me to

1535
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 1: There was no Instagram, so they said they had a

1536
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: poster of me in Japan. I had to just tell you,

1537
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: you know now that they were scamming everybody that way

1538
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: for real. Yes, the marketing budgets they were, they were

1539
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 1: ciphoning money like I got cal This is why, this

1540
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: is why, this is why.

1541
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 2: You love the majors because the era that you were

1542
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 2: in was when the record labels were flushed with cats,

1543
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 2: so they didn't make you pay back.

1544
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: They would be like, cool, they will let you off.

1545
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 3: Your cousin's so flush with cash.

1546
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: Still, let's not It was crazier back then. That's the

1547
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 1: record of off of CDs. I love Mark back there.

1548
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 1: I love this isn't argue all the time because he's

1549
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 1: a super independent guy, which I just think that independent.

1550
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 2: If you want to go to major, be independent first

1551
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 2: so you can leverage and have a better deal.

1552
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, with the machine, I.

1553
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 4: Feel the opposite, And you can tell me. I feel

1554
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 4: like you should be go major first.

1555
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: Let them spend that budget on you, yescause they can't

1556
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: never take back your friends. It's not like that now.

1557
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 1: In his era was now they're accounting for every penny.

1558
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: I'm not a dinosaur man. Yeah, yeah, ago, in the

1559
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: terms of the record business, it was. Yeah.

1560
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 3: What I'm saying though, is I agree if somebody else

1561
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 3: is going to spend the money to make you famous,

1562
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 3: and then you can actually leverage that and make sure

1563
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 3: you do it the right way and you can.

1564
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 2: Come out whole. But now a lot of these artists

1565
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 2: aren't coming out whole. They're stuck in that now. And

1566
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 2: these deals, you mean there was so they kissed the money.

1567
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 2: They haven't recouped. Someone who stuck with the record then

1568
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 2: you could not recoup. And they were doing well. The

1569
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 2: labels they.

1570
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: Could have had liked you as an artist, We're like cool, yeah,

1571
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 1: no problem, and we'll let you out your deal. Let

1572
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: this person buy you out your like they were making

1573
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 1: deals left and right.

1574
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 4: I don't think as Norrie, I never recouped. I did

1575
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 4: as Norri, I spent so much money. I mean, like

1576
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 4: I wanted to Norri signs.

1577
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 2: Today he's signing a three sixty deal where the name

1578
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 2: Noriego or Norri is violent label.

1579
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 1: And when you don't recoup, you can't use that name.

1580
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 2: You better go on as Sir Francis Junior ncut there,

1581
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 2: make a little buddy time. They got spooky are crumbling

1582
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 2: as we see them right now. I think the tech

1583
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 2: companies are the new record labels.

1584
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: They're his.

1585
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 4: I think your Idea period is a new record label

1586
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 4: for those two.

1587
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the bad guys. When I say imagine,

1588
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 1: now imagine, we take you your concept concept right and

1589
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: now you showing people you listen, because even when you

1590
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,839
Speaker 1: was dropping independent, it looked like you was apasior.

1591
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 3: Oh because we I mean we were, we were moving

1592
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 3: that way. You know what I'm saying, which is but

1593
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 3: that's the other piece of it is it requires also

1594
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 3: the financial infrastructure because otherwise, like if you can make

1595
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 3: one hundred grand, pay four thousand dollars a month forever,

1596
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 3: then that means you can make a million dollars, pay

1597
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 3: forty thousand dollars a month whatever. Right, So that's really

1598
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 3: Once you have both the business infrastructure and the financial infrastructure,

1599
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 3: then it becomes an infinite loop. And that infinite loop

1600
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 3: is really what that's really what an artist needs to

1601
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 3: be able to say, like, you know what, I want

1602
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 3: to go record my next album and in France somewhere

1603
01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 3: you know, like the Rolling Stones City.

1604
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: Yes, right, so you know what I think?

1605
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 4: I think you being as smart as you are, right,

1606
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 4: you having this early idea that's fucking genius.

1607
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: We all know. We all know it's genius, and we all.

1608
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 4: Know if it works, when it works, how artist the

1609
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 4: artist can benefit off of this? Right now, radio is

1610
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 4: still important, right, I told this the fact Joe the

1611
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 4: other day, I was like, Yo, if I was to

1612
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 4: ever drop a record again.

1613
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna work by radio like him, Like, I don't

1614
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 1: want you to hire somebody there.

1615
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 4: You you know, you know every PD he's put in

1616
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 4: twenty seven to more years he's been in that work.

1617
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 1: But Joe has to fight. He did it. I feel

1618
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: like that's the future, Like when the concept that you

1619
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: have for artists working for other artists and artists are

1620
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 1: saying I always love Violator for that Violator was like

1621
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: artists managing artist. Chris Lighty was like an artist. Yeah,

1622
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: And that's why I think this is going.

1623
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 4: Like I know it's sounding so minute, but I feel

1624
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,799
Speaker 4: like fat Joe will be running ahead of a radio apartment.

1625
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 4: See how he just dropped the record just now, and

1626
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 4: it's just everywhere everywhere, not because he's my friend, she

1627
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,719
Speaker 4: was just everywhere, and I'm like, he knows what he's doing. Eventually,

1628
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 4: we're going to hire ourselves to do.

1629
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: To do, to work on your platform. You think it's

1630
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 1: gonna go that way, let me speak to his.

1631
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 3: I would like to see that. We don't. What I

1632
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 3: will say though, is just as you said, there will

1633
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 3: be other iterations of platforms for folks to actually communicate

1634
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 3: with their fans. I think the money piece is more

1635
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 3: of an issue because the money piece is what people,

1636
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,679
Speaker 3: even like you said when we started this conversation, said,

1637
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know there was something that could do that, right,

1638
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 3: And so I feel as though for me, even moving

1639
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 3: from music to technology is because I felt like I

1640
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 3: could serve a wider transh of the population.

1641
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 2: Just go right.

1642
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 3: So I think the spread, I think now you're right,

1643
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 3: But the ability for money management from the concept of

1644
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 3: what artists really like, because we, like you said, we

1645
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 3: like the four Seasons, we like the you know, if

1646
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 3: we can if we give fly charter, we like the

1647
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,560
Speaker 3: fly charter. If we could go vacation, we could go

1648
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 3: on a destination recording. We'd rather do that than the

1649
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 3: bedroom recording. Right, So it's about how do you work

1650
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 3: the finances to be able to deliver that. And that's

1651
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 3: why I think, like you said, when we when we

1652
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 3: were doing independent albums, we still.

1653
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 4: I thought you were still on the major I'm saying,

1654
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 4: like me and him always arguing, and it's like, yo,

1655
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 4: you know what, it's taking the best of both worlds

1656
01:27:58,920 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 4: and mix it together.

1657
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 1: And I think that's what this is like for us

1658
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:02,679
Speaker 1: to make.

1659
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 4: Independent money, yes, but to look like a major, look

1660
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,560
Speaker 4: like a major is back in it, because then you

1661
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 4: lose nothing.

1662
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: You actually gain everything. And I believe that this is

1663
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 1: a and to be I believe you struck.

1664
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 2: You struck, to stand struck, to stand on your own

1665
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 2: independently and strike strategic partnerships with whatever major entities. That's

1666
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 2: that's really the goal, because that's where a lot of

1667
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: them you can get a lot of financing from.

1668
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 1: Why it started to cut you off.

1669
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 4: Think about it when you're doing it on your own,

1670
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 4: and if you don't show up to the radio station,

1671
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 4: it all gets on you. But now if you have

1672
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 4: somebody who's professional in that position, it's like you don't

1673
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 4: you're still independent, but you got somebody else helping us, saying,

1674
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,759
Speaker 4: you know, listen, we got to make it the cosmic

1675
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 4: cab at five pm, he's going to pull our record if.

1676
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 3: We don't do it.

1677
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 4: If you have somebody who has that experience, I think,

1678
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 4: why wouldn't you do that? I think that's the only

1679
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 4: thing that's missing from this beautiful idea. It's like, you

1680
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 4: know what it might be really us running us. When

1681
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 4: I say us, don't mean you raise, I mean the people.

1682
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 4: That's a part of the culture. What I'm saying, it's

1683
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 4: it's important, it's important.

1684
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,759
Speaker 1: I think we should make a noise to that. Okay,

1685
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 1: had the moment ahead. Where are we at here? Okay?

1686
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: Are they over there snitching on you saying you ain't

1687
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 1: take the shot? Ellmatic or ready to die.

1688
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 3: Both?

1689
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah, yeah, that's a great answer.

1690
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 4: You need to know this.

1691
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 5: I bet you didn't think he was. He was gonna

1692
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 5: come again with your kid drinker, but now you drinking

1693
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 5: to a drink sa I got.

1694
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 2: On the time Diana Ross or Donna Summers, Diana Ross

1695
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 2: from lew that.

1696
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 1: Missy or Eve? Missy? That was any stories? You're not

1697
01:29:59,080 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 1: telling us any stories?

1698
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:07,600
Speaker 3: Diana Ross. That's a favorite of my mother's, you know.

1699
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 3: And uh, Missy Elliott, I mean just sort of set

1700
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 3: the standard. And I think I think, really, did.

1701
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 1: You say Diana Ross and Missy No, Diana Ross or.

1702
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 3: Donna Summer and you said Missy or or Eve?

1703
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 1: And so he asked the two questions at one time.

1704
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 3: Right now, Missy? Really, you know, I think the signing

1705
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 3: of Missy out of that camp as well, right at first, right,

1706
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 3: I mean, that whole camp. Honestly was just super ultra

1707
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,680
Speaker 3: incredibly ill because that was it was Timbo, it was

1708
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 3: Missy was genuine, it was play.

1709
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 1: But it's like it's like for us to something in

1710
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 1: the water over there. Yeah, you know going on? Yeah, yeah,

1711
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I got next one, all right, Stevie Wonder

1712
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 1: and Marvin Gaye Stevie Wonder. Did I hear that Stevie

1713
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 1: Walker walked to the stage one time?

1714
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:18,799
Speaker 3: Yes, he's confirmed.

1715
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,560
Speaker 1: You can see we always get told us we have

1716
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 1: so many stories. I'm seeing a lot of ship. Did

1717
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: I hear that story that ye walk to the stage

1718
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 1: together something like that?

1719
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I forget where I was performing and it

1720
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 3: was something.

1721
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't have a walking stick, let's be real.

1722
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 1: He walked up, was like, what's up?

1723
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:52,919
Speaker 6: Like, like, yeah, I respect that motive or phantom motif

1724
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 6: playing guys you got this arm?

1725
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah right? Or ghosts the race, Well he's he's thinking

1726
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 1: he went cars he put it together.

1727
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 4: That's not what it was, right, you know, I said, right?

1728
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 4: Or ghost Space Ray Kuan or go Space talking about

1729
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 4: I'm glad I think you you saved me for.

1730
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 1: This one one because he actually did a record with me. Wow, Wow,

1731
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 1: Moriah or Lisa Keys both man's so much more life

1732
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 1: music industry or the tech industry. We're both okay, And

1733
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna say that, Like I said,

1734
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 1: it's not even in there. That's not in there. I

1735
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: just made that up and I new it's not.

1736
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 2: In it real quick, okay, because before when I said

1737
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 2: about the tech industry is taking over the music industry,

1738
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 2: what is your take on that, Like how everybody's kind

1739
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 2: of vilifying the Spotify's and all the DSPs.

1740
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 1: Like, what do you think it's necessary? I think they

1741
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 1: necessary evil.

1742
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:25,520
Speaker 3: I believe that there's a symbiotic relationship between the creativity

1743
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 3: and the technology. Is necessary and it will take several

1744
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 3: iterations until it will be perceived as fair. But I believe,

1745
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 3: like you know that there there was no other way

1746
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 3: to go than a Netflix or a Spotify, right. But

1747
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 3: do you like it's all the entire library of all

1748
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 3: recorded music is in my device right now? Well, the

1749
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 3: lever of humanity is yeah, but that but that's what

1750
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So it's it's inevitable, and it's almost like

1751
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 3: how people are they might want to vilify AI, but

1752
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 3: it's inevitable, and so you were just we were just

1753
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 3: talking about motif versus you know, phantom. But when you

1754
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 3: think or STEVIEE Wonder, the guy Ray Kurzweil who made

1755
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 3: the cursewhile synthesizer, he's a you know, a super forward

1756
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 3: thinker on what's called technological singularity where you won't be

1757
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 3: able to tell the difference between a human and a

1758
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 3: and a robot at some point. He believes that at

1759
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 3: some point it's going to converge. And so that's why

1760
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 3: you have a neural link from Eli Musk or whatever

1761
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 3: that he will put a chip and it's like, okay,

1762
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 3: you either assimilate or do you you know, at some

1763
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 3: point there are folks that are going to say, hey,

1764
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 3: I don't want the chip in my child. But then

1765
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 3: does that mean that your child is not going to

1766
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 3: be behind all the other kids that have a chip. Right,

1767
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 3: So at some point there is going to have to

1768
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 3: be some sort of of you know, convergence, and it's

1769
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 3: about us as as a as a race, as a

1770
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 3: species understanding how we do that in the safest way possible.

1771
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 2: But putting your financial cap on, don't you think that

1772
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 2: the conversation should be have because these we're seeing it

1773
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 2: in real time.

1774
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:16,759
Speaker 1: The DSPs are making an incredible amount of money. Spotify

1775
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 1: has got three hundred and sixty five million billions and

1776
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 1: they're making billions.

1777
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:24,719
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah, off of you know, because obviously

1778
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 2: the model is that now anybody could be an artist

1779
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 2: and feed that.

1780
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, and and it generates income.

1781
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 3: But that's exactly what I'm saying. At some point, through

1782
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 3: different iterations, we will get to a relationship that is

1783
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 3: fair and equitable. But in the early stages, he who

1784
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 3: controls the cash flow controls how the actual pie is divided,

1785
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,639
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And right now, as as.

1786
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 1: You're optimistic that it will pan out.

1787
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 3: It's inevitable. In my opinion, Like.

1788
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 4: Snoop Dogg, I believe he's the first one that said

1789
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 4: it's unfair these music splits are.

1790
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the one at that status, but a lot

1791
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 1: of people have been saying that, Yeah, yeah, I believe

1792
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 1: he's the first one I saw, like yeah, yeah, no, no,

1793
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 1: definitely at that status that was willing to step up.

1794
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 3: All right, producing or singing, singing, performing. I mean there's

1795
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 3: really just no Yes, being a producer is awesome, but

1796
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 3: I mean there is no, there is. There is no

1797
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:37,559
Speaker 3: substitute for being on stage in front of I mean

1798
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 3: talk about it. You could be in it, you could

1799
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 3: be in the lab and imagine it as a producer. Yo,

1800
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 3: this is going to be crazy at such and such,

1801
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 3: but when you do that festival stadium you got people

1802
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 3: jumping and singing every word back is no, there is

1803
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 3: no substitute for that.

1804
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 4: I always say an artist that's a producer is the

1805
01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 4: most unselfish person on the planet because in order for

1806
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 4: you to make a hit, especially after you know where

1807
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 4: I hit it feels right, that must be feeling like

1808
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 4: giving a like a the way.

1809
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Have you ever given away of record?

1810
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 3: It was like, well that was that first record, that

1811
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 3: was hot Tonight.

1812
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:20,560
Speaker 1: Okay, that was that first d You want to get that?

1813
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 3: No, but you had it? Yeah, we let it go,

1814
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 3: let it wow?

1815
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 1: Okay, all right.

1816
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 2: Lionel Richie or Smokey Robinson, Lionel Richie, you got a

1817
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 2: story with him.

1818
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 3: Well, in my family, they're very religious family, So there

1819
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 3: were only two non religious A tracks in our house,

1820
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 3: and one was Linel Richie and the other one was

1821
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:50,679
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson.

1822
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 1: Everything else was easy like Sunday morning.

1823
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it was no, No, it was the

1824
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 3: one with All Night Long on it.

1825
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:05,799
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay out Cast gk.

1826
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 3: Our Casts.

1827
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 1: It's a twenty fifth anniversary of Outcast the first Yeah,

1828
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 1: I probally like the second album.

1829
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 3: Rick Ross or Meek mill Rose clips or marb deep

1830
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 3: Oh clips just because push your tears on something that

1831
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 3: I like.

1832
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:33,679
Speaker 1: Very happy.

1833
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 2: He just he's just right right now. That's that's his

1834
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 2: fan clips over here. Laurence Hill or Queen Latifa, Lauren Hill.

1835
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 2: I was going to say Lauryn Hill no matter who

1836
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 2: you said.

1837
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 3: Second, and the reason for that is just you know,

1838
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 3: uh two parts of that once again grew up very

1839
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 3: almost sheltered. But yeah, that's all my mother could talk about,

1840
01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 3: My mother and father could talk about. No was her

1841
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:04,559
Speaker 3: performance in Sister Yeah, yeah kid, Yeah.

1842
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 1: Do you realize she only has one album?

1843
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 3: That's all you need? That's crazy, that's all you need

1844
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 3: that album?

1845
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 2: When you have that, that's all you need. I mean

1846
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 2: you got to count the Fuji's. Yeah, that is her album.

1847
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 2: We didn't say, but that's.

1848
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,720
Speaker 1: Another it's all.

1849
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 3: In my opinion, that's as close but almost as close

1850
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 3: to a perfect album as you can possibly get in

1851
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 3: terms of what in terms of what I like.

1852
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of everybody would agree with you.

1853
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 3: The world, the production, the songs, the emotion. I was

1854
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 3: actually this crazy. I was just watching. I think it

1855
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 3: must must have been like an MTV unplugged or something

1856
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 3: like that. And then she actually because one of my

1857
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 3: favorite records is the X Factor record. But then there's

1858
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 3: a clip on YouTube where she actually is freestyling at

1859
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 3: the end of it and it's all live and it's

1860
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 3: just that whole vibe is just and.

1861
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 1: The fact how Son is out here, Yes, a part

1862
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:08,759
Speaker 1: of the mally extended that that is great. That is greatness.

1863
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 1: Her album is such a positive album too. Yeah.

1864
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the last one for quick time of sliming.

1865
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 4: We get back into the interview. Loyalty or respect?

1866
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 3: Loyalty?

1867
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:25,720
Speaker 1: Wow?

1868
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 3: Loyalty? Well, I mean, listen, you can be respected by many,

1869
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:35,640
Speaker 3: even by those who don't know you. But to have

1870
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 3: loyalty or to have true betrayal, someone really has to

1871
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:39,560
Speaker 3: know you.

1872
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 1: M that was hard. He's got a flight sing. Okay,

1873
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:52,640
Speaker 1: what times it's flight? Mister Lee? Yoh we got you

1874
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 1: drunk man? Yeah yeah, yeah, don't take my last shot

1875
01:40:57,760 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 1: with you.

1876
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, let's talk about the wealth Plan before we

1877
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 4: get about it at what exactly is the wealth Plan?

1878
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 1: They'll be touched on it a little bit earlier, but.

1879
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:15,599
Speaker 3: I feel I feel like we've we've covered it because

1880
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 3: it's it's more of a concept than an actual, you know,

1881
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 3: the wealth Plan. So it's just more of the fact

1882
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 3: that we have a service that we provide, whether it's

1883
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 3: to artists, musicians, but anybody. I have folks that have

1884
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 3: been longtime fans of mine but work at Facebook, work

1885
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 3: at Google, and they're like, Hey, I mean, I'm the

1886
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 3: first person in my family making tech money, and I

1887
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 3: don't want I want to be that different differentiator in

1888
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 3: my family for how our money is going to grow,

1889
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 3: you know. And that's the crazy piece about it is

1890
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:52,080
Speaker 3: you could be really smart in technology, you could be

1891
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 3: really smart in college, you could be really smart in music,

1892
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 3: you can be really smart in business, but you don't

1893
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 3: know anything about investing and how to make the money

1894
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:02,799
Speaker 3: work for you and last forever, and how to actually

1895
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 3: do it in the right ways with tax laws and

1896
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:09,719
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff that allows you to really

1897
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 3: live how you want to live. And for what we

1898
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:17,680
Speaker 3: do at Wealth Planned, it's kind of twofold one is

1899
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,720
Speaker 3: just how to teach people how to invest. But number two,

1900
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 3: what is money unless you can enjoy it with the

1901
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 3: people you love when you're in the best years of

1902
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 3: your life. Because a lot of folks put a huge

1903
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 3: they put a huge emphasis of retirement, etc. And yes,

1904
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 3: you should have a great life in your golden years,

1905
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:41,599
Speaker 3: but you should you should have a great life now

1906
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 3: with the people you love, you know what I'm saying.

1907
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 3: And so if you know how to take a small

1908
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 3: amount of money and make it work for you so

1909
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 3: that you don't feel like I said, and we gave

1910
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:56,600
Speaker 3: that example, if you want to hire your mom that

1911
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 3: in many cases it seems like it would seem like

1912
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 3: a massive financial commitment. But if the money is doing

1913
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,679
Speaker 3: it for you, then you can do it and actually

1914
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 3: feel great about it, you know what I'm saying. And

1915
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 3: that's really that's that's really what the wealth plan actually

1916
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:11,479
Speaker 3: is all about.

1917
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:15,680
Speaker 1: That's something I mind about you throughout all this thing

1918
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 1: that everything's going on. It's like, you stay positive, gotta

1919
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:23,559
Speaker 1: be It's not it's not easy. That's not easy, not always.

1920
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 1: I mean, even though you're making it seem like it's easy,

1921
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 1: like and you like I said, do you have music?

1922
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 4: Like like, God bless me for using this term, but

1923
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 4: you you remind me like a male shot day, Like

1924
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like I can't get a massage,

1925
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 4: listen to your ship?

1926
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 2: Be cool?

1927
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Speaker 1: Still be cool? Crazy right now saying like it's music

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Speaker 1: that made me feel good, Like I'm not gonna listen

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Speaker 1: to I'm listening to some smooth ships. But how do

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Speaker 1: you maintain that positivity? Like this ship is? It's crazy

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Speaker 1: right now? You can say crazy things.

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Speaker 4: About whatever you want to say online and yeah, and

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Speaker 4: you're maintaining you're not jumping out there, not commentated.

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Speaker 3: On, you know, whatever's happening. And the reason for it

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Speaker 3: is because there actually is no better feeling than being

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Speaker 3: helpful to someone. And I'm telling you just something as

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Speaker 3: simple as you know, if just imagine how you would

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Speaker 3: feel if you know, you in line in a Starbucks

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Speaker 3: or somebody and somebody says, you know what, I actually

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Speaker 3: what do you order?

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Speaker 1: And I got you.

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Speaker 3: It's something as simple as that. But on the flip side,

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Speaker 3: if you're the person who's able to do that, that

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Speaker 3: gives you that kind of that kind of positivity that

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Speaker 3: you're able to do something for someone. And so I

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Speaker 3: think really there's two parts of it. Number one, take

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Speaker 3: care of yourself so that you're in a position to

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Speaker 3: be helpful enough service to folks. So obviously, if you're

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Speaker 3: taking care of yourself, you're gonna feel great.

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Speaker 1: Right, It's like the plane mask, right, put on yourself

1951
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Speaker 1: first you can help kids.

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Speaker 3: And then number two, actually be in that spirit of service,

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Speaker 3: because there is no greater reward than knowing that something

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Speaker 3: that you've done is actually helpful to someone else. And

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Speaker 3: that's that that and and so that's why that's why

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Speaker 3: I have the optimism about music and technology. That's why

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Speaker 3: I have the optimism with you know, if people are

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Speaker 3: not making that much money in music or that much

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Speaker 3: money period. I have seen literally, I have seen folks

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Speaker 3: who have taken you know, mail carrier, commercial truck driver

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Speaker 3: salaries and turned it to millions of dollars. And it's

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Speaker 3: because they just need to know. It's middle school math.

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Speaker 3: But somebody just got to show thee. Yeah, and they

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Speaker 3: have somebody, They got somebody that's going to show them,

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Speaker 3: you know. And for me, I had someone to show me.

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Speaker 3: So that's really what it's about for me. Now, It's

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Speaker 3: that legacy of actually saying and whoever wants to talk

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Speaker 3: to me about it text Ryan dot com. Still to

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Speaker 3: this day, you leave your number there and it's my

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Speaker 3: direct number. And obviously I've got technology to you know,

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Speaker 3: make sure that we weed out the bad actors and

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Speaker 3: we have you know, safeguards in there. You know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. But the bottom line is that there is

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Speaker 3: no I couldn't be at a better place because I

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Speaker 3: see every single day the impact that I'm having, and

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Speaker 3: it's it's it's a real commitment to the furtherance of community,

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Speaker 3: the furtherance of our culture, the furtherance of just humanity

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Speaker 3: in general. I know it sounds either lofty, but that's.

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Speaker 2: In the Golden rule, like do want to others that

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Speaker 2: you would like to be Yes, exactly, that's a basic thing.

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Speaker 1: Yes, everybody should implement. Yes, you know for sure, we

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Speaker 1: know you got to go.

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Speaker 4: But on this day, Monday, September twenty third, at six

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Speaker 4: twenty three, Yeah, do you think that we would be.

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Speaker 1: Talking here and Didy being And yeah, no, I did.

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely not, absolutely not. And I think really for

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Speaker 3: me is because when I first got into the music game,

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Speaker 3: we talked about Tommy Montola. It was Tommy and Puff,

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Speaker 3: those were my mentors. Puff was on the management side.

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Speaker 3: Tommy saw me as an artist. On the publishing side,

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Speaker 3: Puff and Gwen Niles they managed me. But I've always

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Speaker 3: been in my own insulated. I didn't see any of

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Speaker 3: this going on. I literally did not see any of it.

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Speaker 3: So all I saw was someone who gave me an opportunity,

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Speaker 3: somebody who put me in the room with all the

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Speaker 3: biggest artists. My first placement ever was on Beyonce because

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Speaker 3: of this connection Britney Spears, you know, doing Danny Kane

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Speaker 3: singles for Loon, singles for New Edition. But that's because

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Speaker 3: I basically was in my little Ivory tower making stuff,

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Speaker 3: sending it and literally, you know, incredible connections and and

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Speaker 3: uh and and opportunities were being created from the music.

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Speaker 3: So all I needed to do was be in the music.

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Speaker 3: But even today, I mean y'all can see, like from

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Speaker 3: from even me being in Harvard that young I just

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Speaker 3: I never acquired a taste for alcohol, for drugs, for partying,

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Speaker 3: and not to say when I got to New York,

2007
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Speaker 3: I was And that's actually how I met Cassie, because

2008
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Speaker 3: I was like, yo, I'm I'm I'm a big producer.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm going to the club whatever, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. But like I just I have never really

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Speaker 3: had that as advice. I think I have obsessiveness in

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Speaker 3: other pursuits, so I would have never literally never. And also,

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Speaker 3: you know, folks have always talked to me and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know, they've asked me, you know, hey, how do

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Speaker 3: you feel you were you heartbroken? You know, puff took

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Speaker 3: your girl whatever it was. And like I understand when

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Speaker 3: a story or a narrative is not for me, and

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Speaker 3: once it was no longer for me, then there were

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Speaker 3: other narratives and stories for me to invest my time,

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Speaker 3: energy and resources into. So even for all of this

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Speaker 3: to yeah, of course you heard, but I never. I

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Speaker 3: was just in in my ivory tower the whole time,

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Speaker 3: so I would have never.

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Speaker 1: I admire your attitude, for sure. I admire your maturity.

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Speaker 4: I admire you're holding it down for sure, because you know,

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Speaker 4: there could have been a lot of things you could

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Speaker 4: have answered that, and you answered that like a grown man.

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Speaker 4: You answered like a person that is not petty. And

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Speaker 4: I'm very petty, so I could recognize when a person

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Speaker 4: is not to take going down that same block that

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Speaker 4: I stay on.

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Speaker 1: But I respect that, man, I respect that.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being here. I know you got to

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Speaker 1: catch a flight, take a couple of pictures.

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Speaker 4: To get a drop and yeah, yo, man, we really

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Speaker 4: wanted to get your flowers. May deserve it, man, you

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Speaker 4: deserve it because you leading the way for every artist,

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Speaker 4: not just independent artists, major artists. Is who find out

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Speaker 4: you know, how much that, how much have they given

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent fit for and receiving so little and

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Speaker 4: when you know, I had to take me years to

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Speaker 4: find out, but you leading the way and me seeing

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Speaker 4: you do it in in real time. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm seeing I get to witness you do this in

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Speaker 4: real time. I get to witness you, you know, your

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Speaker 4: shows in real time, say your merch in real time

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Speaker 4: and sit back and say, damn man, that's something that

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Speaker 4: eventually want to do with Drink Champs. You know, we

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Speaker 4: want to drop a compilation album and I just feel

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Speaker 4: like everyone should should pay attention to your story.

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Speaker 1: Let's go and we got your back.

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