WEBVTT - The Real Problem With Money, And The Solution Is...

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Mark Moss Show,

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<v Speaker 1>where we talk about the de centralized Revolution. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the way the world is changing looking through the

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<v Speaker 1>lens of politics, finance, and technology. Of course, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and how they are driving this

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<v Speaker 1>change as we look across through these three lenses. Now

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<v Speaker 1>each week, I'm trying to bring you some new education

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<v Speaker 1>so you can look at these things differently, you can

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<v Speaker 1>understand them in better context of what's going on in

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<v Speaker 1>the world today. Of course, I try to bring you

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<v Speaker 1>the latest breaking news so you know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I can some interesting guests, you can hear

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<v Speaker 1>some different perspectives other than just myself. And there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much to learn. And one of the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>try to talk about on a regular basis is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to help you understand what's going on. And we understand

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<v Speaker 1>things by taking complex subjects and we make them easy

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<v Speaker 1>to understand by taking them down to what we call

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<v Speaker 1>first principles level. They're most basic, and once we understand

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<v Speaker 1>them on the first principles level, then we're able to

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<v Speaker 1>understand them at a more complex level. But we're also

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<v Speaker 1>able to start to formulate our own ideas off of them.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't take the time to understand things down

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<v Speaker 1>to the base layer, first first principles, then you're never

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<v Speaker 1>really gonna understand them. You'll never be able to think

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<v Speaker 1>about the money, and you'll never be able to formulate

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<v Speaker 1>your ideas. All you'll be doing is just partying headlines

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<v Speaker 1>that you see over and over and over. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do that, do you, because then you'll

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<v Speaker 1>find out just you know, repeating a headline, and you

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<v Speaker 1>won't really know what you're saying, and then someone's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be smarter than you and they're gonna make you feel dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>And you don't want that to happen. And I certainly

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<v Speaker 1>don't want that to happen to you. So we'll try

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<v Speaker 1>to break these things down so you have that education

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<v Speaker 1>here on the Mark Moss Show. Now you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was recently last weekend, I was speaking at an event

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<v Speaker 1>in Las Vegas called Freedom Fest. It was an awesome event.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I go to a lot of events. I've probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to weigh too many events recently. I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>scaling back on some of my speaking engagements. But I

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<v Speaker 1>really like this one because it was something that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't normally do. So I'm typically at financial conferences, which

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<v Speaker 1>of course that's my niche. So you'll see me at

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<v Speaker 1>financial conferences. Like a couple of last month, I was

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami at the Rebel Capitalist Live. Of course my

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<v Speaker 1>own events that I do, market Disruptors Live. We have

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<v Speaker 1>tickets going on sale for next year's event, Market Disruptors

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<v Speaker 1>Live dot com. You can check that out, um. But

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<v Speaker 1>also you know other financial events, bitcoin events. The Bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>Event in Miami, it's the largest bitcoin gathering. There's about

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<v Speaker 1>forty thousand people there, and of course yours truly. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a speaker on the main stage. They're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin in Macro. I was also I worked the news

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<v Speaker 1>desk for a couple of hours. So anyway, I'm at

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<v Speaker 1>those types of events finance, bitcoin, et cetera. But this

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom Fest was something that I don't normally do. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just about freedom. That's a big word. As a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, today it's sort of a dirty word.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that I'm alive to see that some

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<v Speaker 1>people think that freedom is like some crazy fringe right

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<v Speaker 1>wing or something like that. Uh, freedom is dangerous, it's violence.

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<v Speaker 1>I would agree it actually is dangerous, um to let

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<v Speaker 1>people be free, but that's part of being free. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom Fest, and it was about all types of freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was you know, quite a few um uh

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<v Speaker 1>libertarian groups that were there. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I was invited by Joe Jorgensen. Shout out to Joe

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening, Joe, Um. She is the I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>the only female who's ran for president two times, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's ran for president under the Libertarian Party. So Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Jorgenson invited me there and we did a panel on

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<v Speaker 1>UM titled uh the Price of Money. It was interesting

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<v Speaker 1>panel UM. It started out really well. It kind of

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<v Speaker 1>started going into this kind of like back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>war against a bunch of different cryptocurrencies was one I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't super interested engaging in. But the initial price of

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<v Speaker 1>money I thought was pretty interesting. And so then I

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<v Speaker 1>got to speak to lots of people there at the

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom Fest, and like I said, there was people from

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<v Speaker 1>the Liberal Libertarian Party. There was people there for monetary

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<v Speaker 1>or money freedoms um. So there was gold guys and

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<v Speaker 1>investment guys um. And then there was health freedom. So

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<v Speaker 1>then there was some of the big names that you

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<v Speaker 1>might know, like Dell Big Tree or Dr Robert Malone.

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<v Speaker 1>They're on health freedom, so all different types of freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that Del big Tree said, if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who Del big Tree is, you should definitely

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<v Speaker 1>check them out. Um, he has a lot of passion.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a guy with a lot of passion. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was he was on a rant and he was

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<v Speaker 1>on stage and he said, I don't care about your money.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was kind of a point to bitcoiner

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<v Speaker 1>or gold I don't care about your money. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care or freedom of money. I don't care about freedom

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<v Speaker 1>of guns. In your Second Amendment. He said, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the battle of our lifetime over your body. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have freedom over your own body, you have no

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<v Speaker 1>freedom at all, which was an awesome point that he

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<v Speaker 1>made and one that I would agree with. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was great to do that. But anyway, back to the point.

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<v Speaker 1>So I with on this panel and I'm walking around

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<v Speaker 1>the conference. I'm talking to all these different people who

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<v Speaker 1>are all from different areas of life, and they've come

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<v Speaker 1>for all different reasons except for all about freedom. And

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta asked a lot of questions, and um, I

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<v Speaker 1>found that there's just this massive, um misunderstanding, but also yeah, misunderstanding.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess lack of understanding. Maybe even is a better

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<v Speaker 1>term of what money even is. And I know that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds kind of basic, and don't turn me off, Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>don't turn me off yet. I'm gonna I'm gonna back

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<v Speaker 1>it up, right. So what is money? Well, I know

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<v Speaker 1>what money is. I can open up my wallet, I

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<v Speaker 1>have somewhere, I can go on my ban account, I

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<v Speaker 1>can see how much money I have. But what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>How is it used? What does it mean? And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>understand that is the key to understanding what the heck

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<v Speaker 1>is going on today in the world, with the foot

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<v Speaker 1>of reserve and printing more money and raising interest rates

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<v Speaker 1>and the economy shrinking and all these things. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>that whole thing going on. Um, so you need to

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<v Speaker 1>understand what money is to understand that, but also, um,

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<v Speaker 1>how we could fix that, how we could have better

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<v Speaker 1>versions of that, and what we might have in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't understand those basic things, then you

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<v Speaker 1>just really don't have that first principles understand to build

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<v Speaker 1>that on. So I thought, you know what, I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>some of these questions and I spent hours and hours

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<v Speaker 1>and hours talking to all these people there at the event.

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<v Speaker 1>Let let me let me talk about this to my

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<v Speaker 1>audience here. UM, that's you, that's you listening right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and and we'll try to break that down. So understanding

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<v Speaker 1>money is is difficult. I'm not gonna go all the

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<v Speaker 1>back to the beginning, or maybe I will real quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let me go back to the beginning, real quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're gonna advance past that. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you know what I'm talking about, stick

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<v Speaker 1>with me. I'm gonna go through it real quickly. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, if you're just tuning in, you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Mark Moss Show talking about what I call the

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<v Speaker 1>decentralized Revolution, looking at through the lens of politics, finance,

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<v Speaker 1>and technology and as the world is changing right before

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<v Speaker 1>our very eyes. And so what is money? Money is

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<v Speaker 1>a medium of exchange. Money is something that communicates value. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It communicates um, what people want and what they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want through something called price signals. It coordinates economies. So

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<v Speaker 1>we could say it's a communication. We can say that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a store of value. I don't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>super philosophical with you here, but Basically, it's a way

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<v Speaker 1>that I can store my value to be used at

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<v Speaker 1>a later time. So I can store my wealth, my value,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can use it to buy other things medium exchange.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't need money, we don't. We don't want money.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you might be go, what do you mean? Of

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<v Speaker 1>course I want money, I want I want a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of money, as I can, Well, you don't really want money.

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<v Speaker 1>What you want is the things that money will buy you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you want. You want the things that money

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<v Speaker 1>will buy you. So money is just that medium medium exchange.

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<v Speaker 1>It allows us to get what we want. It also,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, stores that value. So for example, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say that I have to work for four hours

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<v Speaker 1>a day to earn enough money to buy the food

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<v Speaker 1>that I need to stay alive. Well, let's say that

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to work an extra four hours. So now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna work eight hours that day. So I work

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<v Speaker 1>an extra four hours. What do I do? How do

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<v Speaker 1>I store that energy that was four hours that I worked? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I could put it. I get I get paid in money,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hold that money. Now that four hours, that

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<v Speaker 1>that extra that I worked, I'm storing it in money

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<v Speaker 1>and tomorrow I could decide not to work tomorrow because

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<v Speaker 1>I have those four hours saved up and I can

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<v Speaker 1>buy that food that I need for the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense. So now that we have a very

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<v Speaker 1>basic understanding of money, what it's used for, how it works,

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<v Speaker 1>we also have to understand that money is emergent. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do I mean by that? Well, again, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want money. What we want is that things that money

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<v Speaker 1>will buy us. So in the beginning, we didn't have money.

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<v Speaker 1>We just had barter. I would trade you a chicken,

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<v Speaker 1>you trade me a goat. Right, if we're on a

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<v Speaker 1>deserted island, you'd have coconuts. I'd go get a fish,

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<v Speaker 1>and we trade for the things that we really want.

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<v Speaker 1>But what happened is barter is extremely inefficient and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't scale because you might not want my coconuts, my fish,

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<v Speaker 1>my chicken, or my goat. And if you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>any of those things, or the goat or the cow

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<v Speaker 1>is too big, it's not divisible enough. You only want

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of the cow. But I only have

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<v Speaker 1>a whole cow. And so well, if you don't take

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<v Speaker 1>my if you won't take that, would you take this instead?

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<v Speaker 1>And that thing becomes a medium of exchange, and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>enough thing has become a medium exchange that one merges.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna come back with that and more than we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go into talking about different types of assets, assets

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<v Speaker 1>versus liabilities, commodity money, why we need debt for velocity,

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<v Speaker 1>the revolution that has happened that we're witnessing right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and what most people are missing and what you need

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<v Speaker 1>to know in order to succeed. You listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>Mark mo Show talking about the decentralized revolution, talking about bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 1>cryptocurrencies and talking about the through the lens of politics, finance,

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<v Speaker 1>and technology. And today we're talking about money and new

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<v Speaker 1>forms of money and why you need to understand this. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be back with that and more in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't go away, all right, Welcome back. You are listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the Mark Ma Show as we talk about each

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<v Speaker 1>and every week, the decentralized revolution, the way the world

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<v Speaker 1>is changing right before our very eyes. Of course, we

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<v Speaker 1>look at it through the lens of politics, finance, and technology,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's more context into what's happening today. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people talking about politics, but what does it mean

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<v Speaker 1>in the bigger context of things? That a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people talking about money or finance or investing, but what

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean in the bigger context? And of course

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bringing it all together there for you, money, finance, politics, technology,

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<v Speaker 1>and the decentralized revolution of course being led by bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 1>the decentralized technology. Now we were talking about before the break,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about what is money? And more specifically, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can understand what's going on today with inflation and the

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<v Speaker 1>FED and how are they going to print more money?

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<v Speaker 1>And what's happening with Europe and the bonds and all

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<v Speaker 1>of these things, and so you have to understand them

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<v Speaker 1>at the most basic. As I was saying, I was

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<v Speaker 1>speaking at the Freedom FESTUS last weekend, and this one

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<v Speaker 1>piece of information, this seemed to be the biggest stumbling

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<v Speaker 1>box for everybody. So I thought we'd talked about that today.

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<v Speaker 1>So we talked about what is money. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go back and rehash that. If you missed it, you

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<v Speaker 1>can you can check it out on the podcast check

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<v Speaker 1>out Mark Moss podcast. Just search that on the I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio app. Of course you can check it out

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<v Speaker 1>on iTunes anywhere that you listen to podcasts. Oh and

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, while you're at it check me out

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<v Speaker 1>on social media at one Mark Moss. That's right, at

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<v Speaker 1>the number one Mark Moss. Now, um, so what is money? So? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>money is like this favor. It allows me to store

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<v Speaker 1>my value so I can spend it at a later time.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got past that. Um, what what we use

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<v Speaker 1>as money is emergent. We used to do barter because

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<v Speaker 1>what we really want is the food or the goods

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<v Speaker 1>or services, and we'd barter, but then we didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>Um if if I didn't want my chick, if I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want your chicken, you don't want my goat, we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a deal. So we used a medium of exchange.

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<v Speaker 1>We trade this instead, and eventually enough things became used

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<v Speaker 1>as a medium exchange where one thing emerged as the best,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course that was gold. Gold was money for

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand years. You have to have the right attributes

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<v Speaker 1>for it to be a good form of money. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, it needs to be portable, It needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be durable, It needs to be divisible and needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be salable. It needs to be fungible. Probably gonna spend

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of time breaking all of those things down,

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<v Speaker 1>but durable makes sense, right if you used bananas for money, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>within about five days, those bananas are rotten, So it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be a very good form of money. Any type

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<v Speaker 1>of food wouldn't be a good form of money. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not durable. It also needs to be divisible, so

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<v Speaker 1>if it was a cow, a cow wouldn't really work

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<v Speaker 1>because you can't really break a cow down into small pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>It also needs to be fungible, which means one is

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<v Speaker 1>always worth one. So for example, you've seen like the oldest,

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<v Speaker 1>dirtiest dollar bill you've ever seen that has tears in it,

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<v Speaker 1>um is still worth the same as one brand new

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<v Speaker 1>crisp dollar bill. They're they're fungible. And so of course, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>animals aren't fungible, right, things like that aren't fungible. Baseball

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<v Speaker 1>cards aren't fungible. Um, which is and then and then finally, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to be sailable, so enough people have to

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<v Speaker 1>be willing to take it, so it could have all

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<v Speaker 1>those attributes. But if no one's willing to take it

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<v Speaker 1>from you within, it's not a very good form of money.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and and uh and that that kind of sums

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<v Speaker 1>it up. And that's why gold really fit that bill.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with gold is not real portable. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>can put gold coins in my pocket and you and

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<v Speaker 1>I can exchange. That's fine. But in the information age,

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<v Speaker 1>gold doesn't work. I can't send you gold over zoom

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<v Speaker 1>and so, um, it didn't work. Actually gold failed along

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<v Speaker 1>longer before that, and it failed because it's not portable.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is an important piece to understand. So, um gold,

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<v Speaker 1>because it wasn't portable, I needed to pay somebody. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in New York, somebody's in Germany in the four hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>or what do we do? Well, we don't really have

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<v Speaker 1>a deal. And what we could do is we could

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<v Speaker 1>put a bunch of gold on ships and we could

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<v Speaker 1>sell it across the Atlantic. But then the ship's crash

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<v Speaker 1>and they get taken over by pirates and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's not very that's not very very good. So

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<v Speaker 1>what did we do? How did we solve that? Um? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>real quick? That would be what we would consider commodity money.

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<v Speaker 1>So commodity money would typically being that there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>an evolution, and this is a big piece that people miss.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an evolution to this, and so a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are very quick to dismiss new things today because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's it's not that today. So bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>isn't the best medium exchange day it's too volatile. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well maybe that's today, But does that mean it will

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<v Speaker 1>always be that way? Um? If we saw a little

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<v Speaker 1>oak tree in the forest, UM, and I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine this oak tree is gonna be a harder foot

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<v Speaker 1>one day, and you're like, no way, look how small

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<v Speaker 1>it is. I'm like, but it has the attributes. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's an oak tree. But no, it can never be

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<v Speaker 1>that way. But you have to understand things can evolve, UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And so things will typically evolve starting with a collectible.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey this is pretty cool. It's collectible. Let's collect it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a cool it's a shiny rock, it's a cool feather. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then eventually things can become stores of value where

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<v Speaker 1>if enough people collect them, then we store wealth there.

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<v Speaker 1>And you see that with rich people today they store

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<v Speaker 1>their wealth in um collectible cars or or paintings or

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. UM. And then um, eventually it could

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<v Speaker 1>evolve into a medium of exchange, but only if it

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<v Speaker 1>has those qualities that I've given you before. Now, a

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<v Speaker 1>Mona Lisa painting is a collectible. UM. That has become

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<v Speaker 1>a store of value. People are putting their value into

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<v Speaker 1>those things, but it can't really become a medium exchange

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<v Speaker 1>because it doesn't have the money properties. It's not divisible,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not portable, right, it makes sense, it's not fungible. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only one mona Lisa painting, um, so it's it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have the in this quality, so it stops evolving there.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's important to understand that we've had commodity money

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, So commodity would mean that it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be something that's useful or needed, and so gold

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<v Speaker 1>was used for electronics, right, there was a need. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna listen to people like Peter Schiff tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>gold has intrinsic value. There's intrinsic value. Their money must

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<v Speaker 1>have intrinsic value. And I'm surprised that Peter Shift says

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<v Speaker 1>that because he's a very strong Austrian economist, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>he should understand that there is no such thing as

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<v Speaker 1>intrinsic value. That all value is subjective. All value subjective.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had a billion dollars of gold, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was on a deserted island and I had no boat,

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<v Speaker 1>no phone, no food, no water, nowhere to spend the money.

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<v Speaker 1>That gold is worthless. It's completely worthless to me. As

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, it could be a liability because

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<v Speaker 1>now how do I even carry that around on the

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<v Speaker 1>deserted island, So it's worth it's worth nothing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no intrinsic value to it. Now you might say,

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<v Speaker 1>well food, Then food would have intrinsic value, because if

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<v Speaker 1>you had it on the deserted island, that food to

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<v Speaker 1>be worth a lot. Yes, But last night at dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>I threw my leftovers away. That food had no value

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<v Speaker 1>to me, see what I'm saying. So it's all subjective. Now, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for those leftovers, if I was hungry, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if I was really hungry, maybe to be worth money

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<v Speaker 1>less than what it would cost me to go buy

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<v Speaker 1>the full meal. So let's say I was a homeless

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<v Speaker 1>you know, homeless or whatever, and it's a thirty dollar steak.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll pay five bucks for a piece of that steak.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I was on that deserted island and there

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<v Speaker 1>was that piece of steak, I would give my entire

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<v Speaker 1>life savings for that. So again, value is subjective. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense and you have to understand that. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and because of what we have today. So money started

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<v Speaker 1>out as commodity money gold, it had value, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it had money no as properties, durable, portable, divisible, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>But then something changed. And this is the key piece

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<v Speaker 1>to under stand, because if you can understand this key piece,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can understand the revolution that we have today.

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<v Speaker 1>More importantly, you can understand what we're going to need

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<v Speaker 1>to transform the world. This is a very key piece.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is that, Well, that's the portability peace. So

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<v Speaker 1>we live in the information age today. We don't live

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<v Speaker 1>in the physical agent anymore. And like I said, we

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<v Speaker 1>use zoom. I can't send you money over zoom. So

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get that gold or any any commodity

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<v Speaker 1>of money for that matter, to become more portable, we

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<v Speaker 1>had to do something to make it have more velocity.

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<v Speaker 1>You've heard this term velocity of money. So in order

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<v Speaker 1>to get this velocity of this money, we had to

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<v Speaker 1>do something. But that is the crux of the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where everything comes off the rails. So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>explain that to you and more so you can understand

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<v Speaker 1>what what's wrong with our money and what we need

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<v Speaker 1>to solve this thing. I'll explain that to you and more.

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<v Speaker 1>You listen to the Markmas Show. By the way, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the decentralized revolution. We're talking about the way

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<v Speaker 1>the world is changing through the lens of politics, finance,

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<v Speaker 1>and technology. Of course, we're talking about bitcoin, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about money today, what it is, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>understand that, you can formulate your own ideas off of it,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're not walking around like a mindless parent party

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody else's thoughts. I'll be right back with that

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<v Speaker 1>and more in a minute. Don't go away, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back. You are listening to the markma Show, always

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you about the decentralized revolution, talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>way the world is breaking apart and changing right before

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<v Speaker 1>our eyes, which of course is important to understand what

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<v Speaker 1>the heck is going on today more importantly, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know what comes next, and of course we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>it through the lens of politics, finance, and technology. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>we're also talking about bitcoin. As you might imagine. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about money so you can understand the problems

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<v Speaker 1>that we have today and formulate your own ideas off

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<v Speaker 1>of that. We went through a bunch I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to recap it. If you've missed it, don't worry. I

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<v Speaker 1>got your back because you can catch me on demand.

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<v Speaker 1>Just search Mark Moss podcast. Find me on any of

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite podcast players, I heart app or I Tunes

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. So anyway, here we are, Um I was

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<v Speaker 1>I left you at the cliffhanger. If you're still with me,

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<v Speaker 1>I left at the cliffhanger. And the reason why commodity

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<v Speaker 1>money failed commodity money gold. The reason why it failed

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<v Speaker 1>is because it was not portable enough. And so in

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<v Speaker 1>order to move the money faster, we had to do

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<v Speaker 1>something in order to get velocity. You always hear about

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<v Speaker 1>velocity of money. The the economist, the Federal Reserve tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that the velocity of money is too low. And

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<v Speaker 1>so in order to get the money to move faster,

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<v Speaker 1>in order to add velocity, they to do something. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's something is they had to add debt on top

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<v Speaker 1>of it. So gold is a base layer, it's settlement layer.

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<v Speaker 1>If I have the gold, I have the gold. No

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<v Speaker 1>one debates that I have the gold. They can see

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<v Speaker 1>it in my hand. And if I hand you that gold,

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<v Speaker 1>you have the gold, and we see it in your hand.

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<v Speaker 1>And nobody debates that. That's in the physical world. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is it's very slow. So if I want to

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<v Speaker 1>send it to you in New York or across the sea,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very slow to get it there. So in order

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<v Speaker 1>to get it to go faster, we had to add

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<v Speaker 1>a second layer on top. And that second layer was debt,

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<v Speaker 1>a liability. So what do I mean by that, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now what we do is we put the gold in

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<v Speaker 1>the bank. So now I don't have the gold and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have the gold, but neither of us have

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<v Speaker 1>the gold. What we do is we put the gold

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<v Speaker 1>in the bank, and now the bank has the gold

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<v Speaker 1>and they owe me the gold. So instead of me

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<v Speaker 1>having the gold and me owning the gold, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have the golden, everybody knows you have the goal. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the bank owes it to me. It's kind of the same,

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<v Speaker 1>but not really. Obviously, if I have the gold, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>knows I have the gold. As long as I can

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<v Speaker 1>secure the gold, that's my gold. But if the bank

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<v Speaker 1>owes it to me, there's a chance I don't get

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<v Speaker 1>that gold back. There's a chance. Now, each of these

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<v Speaker 1>banks have their own different risk rewards. Now, if I

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<v Speaker 1>want to send you the gold in New York. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's very fast. So the bank just credits. They say

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<v Speaker 1>on their ledger, on their piece of paper and their

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<v Speaker 1>computer thing, they say Mark no longer has the gold,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you have the gold. That's it. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>ledger statement, very quick. So in order to get that velocity,

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<v Speaker 1>they had to add debt, and they did that and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how gold scaled. The problem with that is now

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<v Speaker 1>we have to trust. Now we have to trust the

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<v Speaker 1>bank to keep track of that gold. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>trust that if they say I if I have the gold,

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<v Speaker 1>that they say I have the gold. They don't arbitrarily

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<v Speaker 1>just say that you have the gold. We also have

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<v Speaker 1>to trust that they haven't done something with the gold

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe don't even have any gold at all. What

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<v Speaker 1>if they say you have the gold and say I

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<v Speaker 1>have the gold, but they don't actually have the gold,

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<v Speaker 1>like fractional reserve banking sort of. We'll come back to that. So, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what happened. We had to introduce debt, and

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<v Speaker 1>that UM then lead to these paper gold certificates. So

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<v Speaker 1>those were claims on the gold. Now anytime I want

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<v Speaker 1>I can take that paper claim, I go to the

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<v Speaker 1>bank I could get that gold. It was an IOU

0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.400
<v Speaker 1>and that's how that works. Now, what happened is eventually

0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:52.639
<v Speaker 1>people started trading those gold certificates around enough where they

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<v Speaker 1>started to think they were money themselves. And eventually and

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<v Speaker 1>semny one, the government said no more gold. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>just have paper. And so that's where we get the

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<v Speaker 1>term fiat money. And a lot of times people think

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<v Speaker 1>fiat means fake or something like that. Now the word

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<v Speaker 1>fiat means by decree, meaning it has value because we

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<v Speaker 1>say it has value. So again, remember money, gold emerged.

0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:21.639
<v Speaker 1>Money is emergent. Gold emerged as the best form of money.

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.879
<v Speaker 1>And this is a key piece to understand gold has value.

0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.399
<v Speaker 1>Because we say it has value, we assign value to it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing backing gold. Gold is just gold, there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>backing it. But the debt has to have something back

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<v Speaker 1>in it. So when they gave me that paper gold

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<v Speaker 1>certificate that I could go redeem for that gold, at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, what was backing that claim? What was backing

0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:47.479
<v Speaker 1>that claim that I was holding, Well, it was backed

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<v Speaker 1>by the gold that I could go redeem for that

0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 1>paper gold certificate. But what's backing the gold? Nothing? Nothing

0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:56.560
<v Speaker 1>backs the gold. The gold is just the gold. The

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<v Speaker 1>gold is the asset. It's a physical assets, a key

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<v Speaker 1>piece to n understand. The reason why it's a key

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<v Speaker 1>piece to understand is because people would ask all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, like well, what's backing bitcoin? And again that

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<v Speaker 1>just shows that there's a there's a complete lack of

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of what money is. Only debt needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>backed by something. For example, Um, you might own a

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<v Speaker 1>home or probably you own a car. Right, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to you own a home where you own a car,

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and you probably have a loan on one of those assets.

0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:33.240
<v Speaker 1>And the bank, some bank is holding the note to

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.159
<v Speaker 1>your house or to your car, and they hold that

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<v Speaker 1>on their books as an asset. What's backing that asset?

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Your house or your car? Right? If you don't make

0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:45.440
<v Speaker 1>your car payment, you don't make your house pay, what

0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:47.000
<v Speaker 1>are they gonna do Where they're gonna take that piece

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 1>of paper, They're gonna go claim and they're gonna take

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:52.320
<v Speaker 1>your ownership of your house or your car. That makes sense.

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Speaker 1>So only debt needs to be backed by something. What

0:23:56.160 --> 0:24:00.439
<v Speaker 1>backs the house? Nothing? It's just a house. It's just

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:04.480
<v Speaker 1>a house. What back what backs a banana? Nothing? It's

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:07.000
<v Speaker 1>just a banana. Now, if I issued you an I

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:09.679
<v Speaker 1>owe you saying I owe you a banana in the future,

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 1>you had a claim for it. What backs that claim?

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Well the banana. See how that works. So when people say, well,

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 1>what's backing bitcoin, nothing's backing bitcoin, just like nothing's back

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:22.640
<v Speaker 1>in gold. Now, some people would say, well, Mark, that's

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:26.919
<v Speaker 1>not true. Um, energy backs gold. Right, they had to

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:30.719
<v Speaker 1>use earth movers and dig up ground, and they had

0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>to pull the dirt, the dirt on the ground and

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<v Speaker 1>sift to get the gold out, and they had to

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<v Speaker 1>refine the gold, and so there was great expense that

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:40.720
<v Speaker 1>was spent. Energy was spent, money was spent, time was spent,

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Dollars were spent. You know, maybe it was dollars to

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 1>produce that ounce of gold. So all that time money

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 1>energy backs the gold. Well, yes and no. But we'd

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<v Speaker 1>also say the thing about bitcoin. So bitcoin has miners,

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and there's electricity, and there's man hours and all those things.

0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>And you have a cost to produce a bitcoin as well.

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's in important for money to have a

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<v Speaker 1>true cost, no doubt, which is why the fiat money

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>system is so wrong. Because I can just arbitrarily click

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 1>a button produce more money. So money does need to

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:14.639
<v Speaker 1>have a true cost like gold or like bitcoin, but

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing backing it. So hopefully that makes sense. Um,

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>So anytime you hear someone saying that what's backing goal bitcoin,

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>then you just know there's a complete lack of understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of what money is, just like there's nothing backing gold. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why I bring that up is for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of reasons. So first of all, asset backed cryptocurrencies,

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:38.679
<v Speaker 1>they make no sense. I want to talk about that,

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.680
<v Speaker 1>but I want to talk about something even bigger, which

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 1>is the real revolution that changed the course of humanity

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 1>that most people aren't realizing right now, and that's how

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>we took physical property and made the leap into the

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<v Speaker 1>digital space. I mean, this is mind blowing, but most

0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.719
<v Speaker 1>people haven't really thought through it. So I wanna talk

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>about that, but we'll start with the asset backed cryptocurrency.

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:10.679
<v Speaker 1>So a lot of people I get comments across my

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.160
<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel, which, by the way, if you're not following

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 1>me on YouTube, you should just search Mark Moss on YouTube.

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I put out a couple of teaching videos a week

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 1>on their typically you know, twenty minute video taking a

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 1>very complex subject breaking it down with charts and graphs.

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>It's all visual. UM. So follow me on on on

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:27.679
<v Speaker 1>there if you're not already UM, and on on on

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>social media as well at one Mark Moss. But I

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.479
<v Speaker 1>get comments. I get five thousand comments a week, and

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I see these comments all the time. It's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>would never trust something completely digital. It's not real, it's

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:39.359
<v Speaker 1>not tangible. I can't hold it in my hand. What

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 1>I would rather trust is. What I'd rather do is

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 1>if if if there was a gold backed cryptocurrency, if

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:47.439
<v Speaker 1>it was backed by something, so could we have a

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>gold back cryptocurrency UM. There's recently one UM carbon credit

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:57.159
<v Speaker 1>crypto carbon credits, where carbon credits are backed by the

0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 1>cryptocurrency UM. But these things have deep issues with them,

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 1>and so I want to break that down. The problem,

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the problem with trying to back something by adding the

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>debt on top of it. And then we're gonna talk about,

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>like I said, this the real revolution of what's just

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 1>happened that nobody's paying attention to. And if you're missing this,

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna miss out on this whole thing. Uh, you're

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:21.679
<v Speaker 1>listening to the Mark Moa show. We're talking about the

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 1>decentralized Revolution, talking about the way the world is changing

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 1>through the lens of politics, finance, and technology. I talk

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 1>about all three of those things right now, we're talking

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>about history and finance. But I'm gonna be back with

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:37.160
<v Speaker 1>more to explain to you. This base layer, this first

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>principle is thinking, so you can formulate your own ideas

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>of this, because if you don't understand this, you're gonna

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 1>miss what's going on. You're gonna miss the biggest opportunity

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 1>of your entire lifetime. And I certainly don't want that

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 1>to happen to you. So I'll be back with that

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.360
<v Speaker 1>in more a minute. Don't go away, all right, welcome back.

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Markma Show. We're talking about

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the decentralized Revolution. Explaining to you how the world is

0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>changing right now. I mean, I don't need to explain

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:00.360
<v Speaker 1>to you. If you've got your eyes open, you see

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>the world's changing. The world's breaking apart. Yeah, we knew

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>it would because the pendulum swings from centralization to decentralization.

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>So I'm explained that to you through the lens of politics, finance,

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and technology. And of course we're talking about bitcoin today.

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about what is money from a first principles level.

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>And the reason why that's important is that becauseaid I

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 1>was at this event, the Freedom Fest. Shout out to

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Freedom Fest. I'd love to come back if you want

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>to invite me back. Um, And I just talked to

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>all these people that just didn't understand what this was,

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>and so they have this they have they have all

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>these misunderstandings of of of the economy and how money

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>works because they don't understand this. And I don't want

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>that happened to you, So I'm not gonna rehash it all.

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>If you missed it, check out my podcast on the

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Mark Moa Show. Just search Market Moss podcast, my Heart

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>radio app, iTunes app whatever. Um so um, we've recovered

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 1>all that so um. Gold backed or asset back cryptocurrencies

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>make no sense. They make no sense. And the reason

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>why they make no sense is for the exact reason

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>that I've explained with gold. In order to get goal

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>to have velocity, we had to add debt. The debt

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 1>is what's sped it up. But the problem is it

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>leads to all sorts of what we call counterparty risks.

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, what if, the what if the person

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<v Speaker 1>keeping the ledger just says, well, Mark doesn't have the

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>gold anymore, now you do. I mean I trusted them

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and now they just they screwed me over. Or what if?

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Um they actually get rid of the gold and they

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>just pretend they ledger ledger back and forth, but they

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>don't really even have the gold. So we have to

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 1>trust that they have that ledger. The problem is is

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>that over and over and over they've broken that trust.

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 1>So N three um they created, they got rid of

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the gold. They had way too many of these I

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>O U s and so what do they do, Well,

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>they stole everybody's gold. The government of the United States

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>seized your gold, stole your gold and made it illegal

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>for you to own gold. Why because they didn't have

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>it they needed more of it. Um one. They did

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>it again. So how can we trust that? We can't.

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>We saw what happened with Russia. Russia got their bank

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>account seas. We saw the Canadian truckers, they got their

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>bank acount seast. So that money in the bank is

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a liability. Someone owes you that money, but the person

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 1>that owes it to you, the person that keeps that ledger,

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>could just wipe your ledger off. Whenever they want. That's

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>the problem. So why would I want an asset back cryptocurrency?

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>So why would someone say, well, I can't trust uh Um,

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't trust pick one because I can't hold it

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>in my hand. Now if it was, if it was

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>a gold back cryptocurrency, I could trust that, But but

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>why it's the same problem. So now what I have

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:30.239
<v Speaker 1>a token that represents a claim on that goal that

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>that person is holding for me, which is the exact

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>story I gave you. But how do I know they

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:35.959
<v Speaker 1>really have that gold? How do I know when I

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>give them that claim they'll give me the gold back?

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't. And there is the crux of the matter.

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>There doesn't need to be anything backing it. Like I said,

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>we're starting to see all types of things being backed,

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:51.959
<v Speaker 1>Crypto being backed by things. This latest one is this

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>carbon credits are backed crypto. Crypto is backed by carbon credits. Again,

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the same thing, uh um. But it doesn't make sense

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>to take a physical thing, a real world thing, and

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 1>try to back it with something digital. But of course

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't stop people from trying. Um. And we can

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 1>see of course X we work CEO Adam Newman. Now,

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 1>if you're familiar with the story. We work. Um, I

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>hate to bore you, so actually I won't. I'm not

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna go deep into the details. But we work. You know,

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 1>they had this great idea that we're gonna go do

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>long term leases and Class A office buildings and then

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>they would break it up and sublease it out to

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>individual people who wanted places to work. Um, the company

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 1>ended up being worth more than all the buildings that

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 1>they had rented out. How does that make sense? And

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. And if you understand how that doesn't make sense,

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>then you understand who Adam Newman is. And I guess

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>he's kind of a scammer, of course, and that's why

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>he's creating this new carbon credit backed thing which doesn't

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 1>make any sense. But let me let me. Now that

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>you understand that why that doesn't make sense, let me

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>explain to what actually been here. So we have physical things,

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>as I talked about. If I have gold, I have gold.

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>If you have gold, you have gold. Everybody sees it,

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody knows it. It's what we call bearer instrument, a

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 1>bear instrument. If I have it, the bearer owns it.

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a bare instrument. Stocks trick if its used to

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>bear instruments. Um. But the problem is is, as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not portable, doesn't doesn't doesn't happen over space. So

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<v Speaker 1>in order to go into the information age, we now

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>have to use a ledger. Someone has to hold that

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>physical asset, right, that's the problem. But what bitcoin did

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>is it solved that problem and now it allows us

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 1>to have a bear instrument. But digitally, it's never been

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>done before because digital things can be copied. You send

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>me a file. Now I have the file and you

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>have the file. I make a copy of the file.

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I can make ten tho copies of the file. Digital

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 1>things get copied. So for the first time and ever,

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>we've figured out a way to have a digital bear instrument.

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<v Speaker 1>It's never been done before. And do you understand how

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<v Speaker 1>big that is, because this is the problem that that

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>we're stuck with, where all of these assets get um centralized.

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>And then I always say centralization least of manipulation. Now

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 1>they have those assets, they manipulate those assets. They say

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>we have more than we did. We don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>send them back to all these things that can happen,

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and so it solved that problem. Now we have digital

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.959
<v Speaker 1>bare asset. It's it's the first time we've ever been

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 1>able to have digital property that has no counterparty risk. So, uh,

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 1>you know you have an asset. You own Tesla stock,

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 1>at least you think you do. I mean it's in

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>my e trade account, but I guess e Trade owes

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>me Tesla stock. Do they have the Tesla stock, We'll

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 1>know it's actually owed to them, which is owed to them.

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>So it's a it's a it's a it's a liability.

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>There's counterparty risk. There's a chance because I don't have

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 1>it in my hand, that I might not get it back.

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 1>But bitcoin solved that for the first time. Now we

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>have a digital asset that I can take custody of

0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>and I have it, and if I want to send

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>it to you digital Ellie, I can do that with

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 1>nobody in the middle, no counterparty risk, no liability risk.

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Now why is that important? Well, as you might imagine,

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>we live in an information age today. The problem of

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 1>using physical commodities that they don't scale, and so the

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>only way for the world to work, the only way

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 1>for the world to work using something like gold or

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:25.919
<v Speaker 1>something physical oil commodities things like that, is to put

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.279
<v Speaker 1>debt on top of it. But that debt leads to

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>then trust us trusting the person with those assets, and

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>we have to trust that they don't manipulate, that they

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:37.919
<v Speaker 1>don't create more of it. But we've proven, proven all

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>throughout humanity that we can't trust those people. As a

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, that trust has been brought to the

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:46.720
<v Speaker 1>forefront and slain on the altar with the trucker protests

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>in Canada and then for the whole world to see

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.280
<v Speaker 1>with Russia, one of three super superpowers with nuclear weapons

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>that got their accounts seized. And so now, for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in history, we have a asset that can

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:06.399
<v Speaker 1>scale with pure velocity without putting debt on top of it.

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:08.800
<v Speaker 1>We've never had an asset before that we could scale

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 1>without putting debt, and debt causes the problems. Do you

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 1>see where we're going with this? So for the first

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 1>time that one of the oldest problems in in in

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 1>mankind is how do I store my assets in a

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 1>way that can't be stolen from me? Bitcoin solve that.

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 1>How do we have an asset that we can apply

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>velocity to without adding debt? Well, Bitcoin solved that as well. Now, um,

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>it's about as deep as I'm gonna go, but hopefully

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you can understand that and you can start to see

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>where these problems lie and how big of a solution

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:39.720
<v Speaker 1>that is. Now, what does that mean for the future. UM,

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>There's been countless books, I don't hundreds of thousands of

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>hours of podcasts and shows talked about this at length,

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 1>So we can't get into all that, but I wanted

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>to give you this base foundation of what money is,

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:56.919
<v Speaker 1>how it works, so now you can start to build

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 1>your own ideas off this. So now when you hear UM,

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 1>the federal government wants to increase the debt ceiling, you

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:06.240
<v Speaker 1>understand what they're talking about. When you understand that currencies

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>around the world are starting to fall and they need

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 1>to have bonds, they need to take on more debt,

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you start to understand what that means. Now all the reasons,

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>all the perversions, all the distortions that all this debt creates. Again,

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>that's a tens of thousands of hours of discussion that

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 1>we can get into that, UM, But don't worry, I

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 1>will as long as you're tune in with me each

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 1>and every week you're listening to the Mark Moa show

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 1>talking about this world that's changing right before very eyes,

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the decentralized revolution, talking about through the lens of politics, finance,

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and technology. Each and every week, I'm gonna keep filling

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>you in on bits and pieces of this. We like

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:46.240
<v Speaker 1>to say that fix the money, we can fix the world.

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Pretty much every problem that we have in the world today,

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>from lockdowns to censorship, to rush in Ukraine, to um

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>to incarceration rates, to obesity, you name it, they're all

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.320
<v Speaker 1>caused by distortions of the money supple. So if we

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 1>fix the money, we fix the world. And we do

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 1>that by getting rid of the debt. We didn't ask

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>that that can scale without adding um. The scalesed with

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>velocity without adding the debt. And that's what bitcoin solved.

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:15.360
<v Speaker 1>That's the real revolution that's happening that everybody's blinded to.

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 1>But now you're not. Anyway, you listen to the Markma Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully that makes sense. Thanks so much for listening.