Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz.
Speaker 1: We're coming to you here from our studios at lambeau
Speaker 1: Field and West. Since we last spoke, there's been a
Speaker 1: lot going on. I was in Canton, Ohio for a
Speaker 1: few days. You were here in Green Bay covering the
Speaker 1: Packers and training camp and through family night. Let's start
Speaker 1: with what's going on with the two thousand eighteen Packers.
Speaker 1: Some news with regards to the starting offensive tackles here
Speaker 1: Brian blog at David Botr. Why don't you get us
Speaker 1: up to date? Well? First off with Bloga being able
Speaker 1: to make it back to the practice field on Friday
Speaker 1: for the first time, getting cleared and activated from that
Speaker 1: physically unable to perform lest uh, less than nine months
Speaker 1: since his a c L that's last November against the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. I believe it was an unbelievable turnaround for
Speaker 1: him to be back and play. I know he said
Speaker 1: he was pushing Doc mackenzie to be able to be
Speaker 1: cleared in time for training camp. That was his big goal.
Speaker 1: But as he also admitted, there was kind of this
Speaker 1: thinking they wanted to get closer that nine month mark
Speaker 1: with his recovery. Now he's coming along slowly. They're not
Speaker 1: just obviously throwing him back into team periods of that.
Speaker 1: They're they're just letting him get his feedback underneath him.
Speaker 1: He did on a precautionary basis, on a planned basis
Speaker 1: set out of Saturday night's Family Night practice. But the
Speaker 1: fact that Brian blag is back out there is a big,
Speaker 1: big thing for this offensive line. Uh. And then David
Speaker 1: Batari actually exited that Family Night practice with an ankle injury.
Speaker 1: By all accounts so far, it looks like he averted disaster. Um,
Speaker 1: So we'll we'll see where all that lines up. Kyle
Speaker 1: Murphy got some extra reps at that left tackle position,
Speaker 1: Jason Spriggs getting a lot of work as well. So UM,
Speaker 1: I think the hope is though insummation of all this
Speaker 1: is the pack is are hopeful their left tackle right
Speaker 1: tackle be in place for the start of the regular season. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I just have to say, what an impressive recovery
Speaker 1: by Brian Bologa, because I'll admit, when Mike McCarthy said
Speaker 1: at the start of training camp that week one was
Speaker 1: on the table for Brian. I was. I was surprised.
Speaker 1: It wasn't something that I expected to hear, just because
Speaker 1: these A c L recoveries can sometimes be so extensive
Speaker 1: and so difficult to get through. Blogg had already gone
Speaker 1: through one a few years ago. I'm sure that was
Speaker 1: a factor. But also just knowing having covered this team
Speaker 1: since two thousand and six, the conservative nature of Dr
Speaker 1: Mackenzie with regards to injuries and getting players back out
Speaker 1: on the field. We saw it with Jordy Nelson when
Speaker 1: he came back from his A c L. I just
Speaker 1: really didn't think, even as hard as Bolaga, maybe you
Speaker 1: wanted to push Dr Mackenzie that he would necessarily get
Speaker 1: the medical clearance this early. But hats off to him,
Speaker 1: Kudos to him for where he is right now. Put
Speaker 1: in a lot of work to get to this point,
Speaker 1: and and you look at his recovery, his timeline, he
Speaker 1: said it a couple of weeks ago. I mean he benefited,
Speaker 1: He feels he benefited greatly from that first experience back
Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen, knowing what the aches and pains
Speaker 1: are gonna be, like, how you need to push yourself
Speaker 1: through that on a side, don't. I was actually talking
Speaker 1: in Dmitri Goodson for a story I'm working on this
Speaker 1: week about his own journey. Uh. He mentioned that the
Speaker 1: toughest thing is you've got to stay in a routine
Speaker 1: because if you don't, that's where the soreness comes from.
Speaker 1: That's where you start to really feel it. And you
Speaker 1: just gotta trust that you're doing the right things day
Speaker 1: in and day out, so that as it gradually goes on,
Speaker 1: that soreness goes away. And and from Bolaga to be
Speaker 1: able to make this kind of turn around, Uh, it's
Speaker 1: a major boost for the Packers offensive line and obviously
Speaker 1: this offense and Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, And let me ask
Speaker 1: you this because I was long car ride with our
Speaker 1: video producer Mike Atkinson. He was, um, you know, gracious
Speaker 1: enough to do the entire drive from green Beata Camp. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the big, the big avalanche truck. He had all his
Speaker 1: camera equipment loaded up in the back. But we're driving
Speaker 1: along the Ohio Turnpike late on Thursday afternoon to get
Speaker 1: to Canton, and I start flipping through Twitter and seeing
Speaker 1: what's going on and this, uh touchdown passed by Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers in practice on Thursday. It sounds like I missed
Speaker 1: something pretty spectac I really wish you could have seen it. Mike.
Speaker 1: I wrote about that an inbox because for my money,
Speaker 1: this is training camp number eight that I've covered in
Speaker 1: some form or fashion um and we talked about it
Speaker 1: all the time. Aaron Rodgers makes amazing plays on a
Speaker 1: daily basis. Mike McCarthy even mentioned it. Nothing surprised you,
Speaker 1: Randall Cops said, nothing surprises you. I gotta be honest
Speaker 1: with you, though, that throw kind of surprised me a
Speaker 1: little bit. Because here's the thing you gotta understand about
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. So it's it's two minute situation. They're down,
Speaker 1: it's fourth and ten, they're at their own there, they're
Speaker 1: at the twenty six yard line at this point in time.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, like Aaron Rodgers does, coaxes the defense into
Speaker 1: an offside so now he's not getting one but two
Speaker 1: plays with those eight seconds left. So everybody runs their
Speaker 1: go route. Everybody's jetting off to the end zone. Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers rolls left and if you look at it, my
Speaker 1: he did one quick look to the right side of
Speaker 1: the field. He's on the left side of the hash
Speaker 1: marks at this point, he did one quick look to
Speaker 1: Geronimo Allison's side of the field and then got his
Speaker 1: vision back over here, and without even looking at Allison,
Speaker 1: throws it pinpoint perfect pass, puts it in a spot
Speaker 1: that Allison six three about is only going to be
Speaker 1: the only player that's gonna be able to catch it.
Speaker 1: He jumps up, pulls it down. It was one of
Speaker 1: those type of plays. And I was standing with a
Speaker 1: bunch of other reporters where we're just all like looking
Speaker 1: at each other, like did that really just happen? Because
Speaker 1: you gotta remember what's quarterback one oh one? Going back
Speaker 1: to high school. You're rolling left here on the other side,
Speaker 1: back across the field, don't throw the ball across the
Speaker 1: hash marks and and Mike McCarthy, I thought it's such
Speaker 1: a great quote with it too. Every single practice you
Speaker 1: could almost create a library out of Aaron Rodgers in
Speaker 1: the pastes he makes that one though, is gonna get
Speaker 1: filed in that special library. It was one of those
Speaker 1: plays that only a handful of human beings on this
Speaker 1: earth that any point in time could ever make. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of the fans have been asking, well,
Speaker 1: where's the video we want to see this. I'm sure
Speaker 1: they want to see the video of the play on
Speaker 1: the show, But just to explain, during training camp practices,
Speaker 1: there are certain periods, most of the eleven on eleven
Speaker 1: full scrimmage like periods. Cameras are not allowed to shoot
Speaker 1: those plays. So the only video of the play that
Speaker 1: exists are the actual um the video crew for the packers,
Speaker 1: for the team, the coaches and players. They're the ones
Speaker 1: who have the video of it. Like we don't have it.
Speaker 1: We weren't allowed to shoot it. Other TV stations locally
Speaker 1: around the nobody else was allowed to shoot it. So
Speaker 1: just to to clarify that, but let me throw this
Speaker 1: at you. You mentioned he got a defender to jump
Speaker 1: offsides and it was a free play. Does he even
Speaker 1: try that pass if it's not a free Probably not,
Speaker 1: Probably not. But I thought the thing that was the
Speaker 1: most interesting about the whole course of events is that
Speaker 1: Alison talked about this as a rookie with thinking of
Speaker 1: the scrambled drill from a textbook perspective, his real instincts
Speaker 1: would have been to follow Rogers to trail left, But
Speaker 1: after being in the offense for two years, he understands
Speaker 1: his role is to stay in that area of the
Speaker 1: field because you just never know what's going to happen
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. So it was such an interesting thing
Speaker 1: and as Rogers said afterwards, it was it was a
Speaker 1: heads up play by Alison and knowing where he's at.
Speaker 1: You wrote about him last week for our website. It's
Speaker 1: just the maturation and growth of a football player. And
Speaker 1: Allison had a heck of a family night too. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a guy that you can tell he's not
Speaker 1: thinking anymore. I mean he's just doing what he's been
Speaker 1: coached to do, and he's and he's being able to
Speaker 1: stay in the moment. That's so important. And I think
Speaker 1: you have Davante Adams, you have Randall Cobb. They've have
Speaker 1: numbers of years experience now. But in terms of that
Speaker 1: that big chemistry word we always talk about, Allison started
Speaker 1: to develop that. And yeah, you're right, if it's a
Speaker 1: fourth down they don't have the free play, maybe he
Speaker 1: looks a little differently, but at the same time, it's
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. You never really can you know, kind of
Speaker 1: pigeonholed him to one thing and you never know what
Speaker 1: he's gonna do. Yeah, as you said before hopefully all
Speaker 1: the ports on David bak tr you remained positive that
Speaker 1: that any sort of serious problem was averted there. What
Speaker 1: else jumped out to you as far as family and
Speaker 1: night goes. I know you wrote a little bit about
Speaker 1: the rookie receiver from Missouri, Jamon Moore. Jamon Moore was
Speaker 1: it was probably the highlight as far as the play
Speaker 1: of the day was concerned. Um packers. You know that
Speaker 1: we had some storms rolling into uh so, I think
Speaker 1: you know, things was moving with a pretty good tempo,
Speaker 1: trying to get all their work in, and they were
Speaker 1: working just in this this red zone period, you know,
Speaker 1: pass under pressure type period, and basically More got himself
Speaker 1: isolated against I believe it was Josh Hawkins. Hawkins had
Speaker 1: really good coverage on the play, but Brett Hunley rolls
Speaker 1: back and he has a one on one situation in
Speaker 1: the end zone in a red zone period. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be something where a quarterback, specifically, if you're looking at
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in the regular season, he's gonna want to
Speaker 1: be able to trust that receiver to make that play
Speaker 1: in a fifty fifty situation. Jamon Moore did that, and
Speaker 1: this is a young man that I know. There were
Speaker 1: some questions about his hands coming out of Missoo. I
Speaker 1: think his athletic ability, his size is off the charts.
Speaker 1: It's exactly what you want for the receiver position. But
Speaker 1: like any young player, you know, he's had those ups
Speaker 1: and downs of a training camp. And for him, he
Speaker 1: said it with two things that really stood out about
Speaker 1: that family night. One, it was his first chance really
Speaker 1: getting to play under the lights. Uh, not only of
Speaker 1: Lambeu Field, but you know practice in general. They've been
Speaker 1: all at eleven eleven fifteen Central time so far, so
Speaker 1: getting a chance to be in front of that crowd
Speaker 1: really helped. And also the plays like that, he said,
Speaker 1: that's really what allows Brett Hunley or Deshaun Kaiser, even
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers when he gets the reps with them to
Speaker 1: have the trust in him to make that play. It
Speaker 1: was a really good situation, a really good opportunity, and
Speaker 1: he went out there and I thought, you look at
Speaker 1: his footwork, what he did on to being able to
Speaker 1: protect that ball, win the fifty battle. Uh. We need
Speaker 1: to get to some preseason games with all these young
Speaker 1: receivers to see what they really have. But for him,
Speaker 1: I think that that was the right step towards that
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Speaker 1: Wes I mentioned Thursday at the Long Drive to Canton, Ohio,
Speaker 1: And I tell you there were a lot of really
Speaker 1: really great moments throughout this weekend with um Jerry Kramer
Speaker 1: and covering his long awaited and long overdue and Shrineman
Speaker 1: in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: mention three of them to you that really stood out
Speaker 1: to me. Some of them I'm sure you saw on television.
Speaker 1: One was when he got his gold jacket on Friday night,
Speaker 1: his daughter Alicia, who had begun a campaign to sort
Speaker 1: of keep his candidacy alive, something that you know, Jerry
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily totally on board with when she started it,
Speaker 1: but she was there to put the gold jacket on
Speaker 1: him at the Civic Center in downtown Canton. That was
Speaker 1: That was a special moment. Then on Saturday, I was
Speaker 1: fortunate enough and and Mike Atkinson, our video producer, was
Speaker 1: with me as well to be at Jerry Kramer's private party.
Speaker 1: And uh, I don't know if you saw the picture
Speaker 1: that I posted on Twitter, but I happened to get
Speaker 1: a snapshot of Paul Hornick sitting next to Jerry Kramer,
Speaker 1: both of them wearing their gold jackets. And there was
Speaker 1: something really really special about that. And then the speech
Speaker 1: on Saturday night, I mean, wow, blew me away, Absolutely
Speaker 1: blew me away. I had to I had to gather
Speaker 1: my thoughts quickly and get a story. I wanted to
Speaker 1: get a story up on our website about that speech
Speaker 1: as quickly as possible. But the more I've thought about
Speaker 1: it since Saturday night, I've I've just been absolutely blown
Speaker 1: away by what he did up on that stage. And
Speaker 1: before I get into my little two cents on this,
Speaker 1: because I'll be honest with you, Mike, the show is unscripted.
Speaker 1: I was thinking all morning long of what I wanted
Speaker 1: to say in this segment and in indirect correlation with
Speaker 1: that speech. But if you haven't had a chance yet,
Speaker 1: check out spots column from Saturday night. It was exceptional.
Speaker 1: I thought, really captured the moment and exactly what the
Speaker 1: emotions are like for a man that's now eighty two
Speaker 1: years old, is still a sharpened way he as ever
Speaker 1: aboutely to my for my money, Um, I think that
Speaker 1: asked to go down as one of the top ten
Speaker 1: top five all time Hall of Fame speeches, and and
Speaker 1: I have a number of reasons for this one. At
Speaker 1: no point in that speech did it ever really feel
Speaker 1: like it was about Kramer, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It was about his high school coach. It was about
Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi. And that was something that pointed out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was something I pointed out as well. I
Speaker 1: thought it was incredibly classy and respectful of him that
Speaker 1: not once in an eighteen and a half minute speech.
Speaker 1: Did he even mention that he had to wait forty
Speaker 1: plus years for this incredible moment to happen for him?
Speaker 1: That was an afterthought. It it never It never came up,
Speaker 1: and you would have thought it would have, and nobody
Speaker 1: would have blamed him if he had talked about it.
Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't make it about himself. He made
Speaker 1: it about his feelings about about his team and and
Speaker 1: about what that team accomplished and how he got to
Speaker 1: where he did, and the people who inspired him along
Speaker 1: the way. And he was using that speech to just
Speaker 1: try to inspire others, much as he has done throughout
Speaker 1: his entire life, in the whole if you can, you
Speaker 1: will speech. And and here here's what stood out to
Speaker 1: me though the most. And obviously I was trying to
Speaker 1: cover family night, and we were we had a monitor
Speaker 1: up trying to watch the Hall of Fame speeches as well.
Speaker 1: But with all due respect to Hall of Fame guys
Speaker 1: that have gone in there, and you know, given these
Speaker 1: high salute and speeches and kind of sort of bast
Speaker 1: in their own greatness, I think that that happens quite
Speaker 1: a bit. Jerry Kramer. What I love the most about
Speaker 1: his speeches. It was eighteen minutes long. He could have
Speaker 1: talked for two hours if you wanted to, and nobody
Speaker 1: would have complained. Nobody would have complained. He was straight
Speaker 1: to the point and he's captivating, Michael, and that isn't
Speaker 1: news to you. And I know we've talked to him,
Speaker 1: we've interviewed him, We've seen how he associates with people.
Speaker 1: Such an engaging man. He's an engaging man with tremendous stories.
Speaker 1: That Don Chandler story I thought was really interesting. Um
Speaker 1: I I was in the press box was an absolute
Speaker 1: stitches when he told that story about them losing fifty
Speaker 1: six and nothing to the Baltimore Colts. Uh. And you
Speaker 1: know he's saying that they almost killed the poor pony
Speaker 1: that was running around after every touchdown for the Colts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the press box and Canton was was cracking up on
Speaker 1: that one. It was tremendous. But the thing I want
Speaker 1: to ask you the most, because you were there, you
Speaker 1: were experiencing it. We talked so much about Alicia and
Speaker 1: you had a chance to speak with her two going
Speaker 1: into this thing. How emotional was this for them? Because
Speaker 1: if you watch the monitors, his children in the stands
Speaker 1: her on the stage, a guy that committed his entire
Speaker 1: life to football. You could tell both for him and
Speaker 1: the family just how meaningful that moment was. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was really incredible. I got a chance to interview Alicia.
Speaker 1: She was nice enough to come on camera with us
Speaker 1: at the party on Saturday afternoon. And this is, you know,
Speaker 1: the Friday night, the gold jacket ceremony is all over.
Speaker 1: Everybody's had a good night's rest, and everybody's in this
Speaker 1: great mood for for a party, A fantastic party that
Speaker 1: was put on. And uh, I get her on camera
Speaker 1: and just ask her about the gold jacket ceremony, and
Speaker 1: you could see the emotions like just instantly come back.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't escape it. I mean it was,
Speaker 1: it was. It was really something special. And to see
Speaker 1: to see her put the jacket on him and then
Speaker 1: and then to watch Cramer just kind of you know,
Speaker 1: flash the hands like hey you know here, I mean,
Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was a great moment. She
Speaker 1: actually told us then when we did the interview with her,
Speaker 1: she said she whispered to her dad on the stage
Speaker 1: just as they were getting ready. She's like, okay, you're
Speaker 1: ready dad, you know I mean, what a moment. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, and and and for that to be a
Speaker 1: private moment with them at the time on Friday night,
Speaker 1: with you know, thousands of people in the stands at
Speaker 1: the Sacivic Center and National Television watching the whole ceremony,
Speaker 1: and they actually get to share that little moment between
Speaker 1: the two of them when all this is going on.
Speaker 1: Pretty cool stuff. It was absolutely adorable too. And they
Speaker 1: did the whole gold jacket ceremony, the hot Mike that
Speaker 1: was picking up everything Jerry was saying. So when they
Speaker 1: finished the video package, I was just laughing my my
Speaker 1: butt off. When he did the whole long time they
Speaker 1: were talking about our long time ago whenever you put that,
Speaker 1: and um, you know again, it's such an emotional moment
Speaker 1: for everybody. And the other thing, the other point I
Speaker 1: want to make two is I just think there's something
Speaker 1: poetic about a man who's eighty two years old. I
Speaker 1: think graduated high school I want to say, in like
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four or something like that. And it to me,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, it was a power of social media
Speaker 1: that really helped him elevate his campaign. Alicia, I remember
Speaker 1: when I went absolutely and Alicia when I went on
Speaker 1: you know, when I got on the beat in two
Speaker 1: thousand twelve, I remember she was just starting her campaign
Speaker 1: and it was almost heartbreaking every year when they would
Speaker 1: do the Senior Finalists and he wouldn't get nominated. And
Speaker 1: I remember reading that in her post, and she always
Speaker 1: tried to stay positive in thirteen and fourteen and fifteen,
Speaker 1: and then when it finally happened last fall, uh, last summer,
Speaker 1: it was just it was incredible, an incredible development, incredible
Speaker 1: situation for them, and and yeah, I think there was
Speaker 1: an undeniable factor to it. Rick Goslin said that to
Speaker 1: you too. I mean there was kind of this wart
Speaker 1: on the Pro Football Hall of Fame, like why are
Speaker 1: you turning your nose up at a guy that was
Speaker 1: a member of the all All sixties decade team, you know,
Speaker 1: had all the credentials that he had. But yet even
Speaker 1: despite being eleven time finalists and a former Senior finalists,
Speaker 1: the only one that my recollection hadn't gotten in in
Speaker 1: terms of the last twenty five years as a senior finalist.
Speaker 1: It was disappointing, and it was good to see them
Speaker 1: right that wrong. Yeah, I was. I was really pleased
Speaker 1: to get a chance to talk with Rick Goslin on Friday.
Speaker 1: We we did an interview with him, and then I
Speaker 1: was able to fashion a story out of a lot
Speaker 1: of his comments. Very insightful guy, obviously. For those who
Speaker 1: don't know Rick, he's a longtime NFL writer. Spent the
Speaker 1: bulk of his career in newspaper at the Dallas Morning News,
Speaker 1: covered the NFL on a national landscape. He's now with
Speaker 1: the Talk of Fame network, but he has been um
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame Selection Committee voter for over twenty
Speaker 1: years and he's also on the Hall of Fame Senior Committee.
Speaker 1: So he was very instrumental in just getting Kramer's candidacy
Speaker 1: pushed forth again in terms of in front of the
Speaker 1: Senior Committee, where then they named him a finalist. He
Speaker 1: gave the presentation at the actual selection committee meeting, the
Speaker 1: voting meeting on Super Bowl weekend in uh this last
Speaker 1: winner in Minneapolis, and so getting a chance to talk
Speaker 1: to him and and and just here his perspective was
Speaker 1: was really interesting. What I didn't know is that he
Speaker 1: grew up in Detroit watching the Packers sweep and Jerry
Speaker 1: Kramer leading that sweep to demolish his Detroit Lions, the
Speaker 1: team that that he grew up rooting for. So but
Speaker 1: m Rick's perspective very very valuable in this instance. And
Speaker 1: uh and yeah, the most poignant comment I thought from
Speaker 1: him was when he said the Hall of Fame had
Speaker 1: a credibility problem with Jerry Kramer not being in the
Speaker 1: only member of the fiftieth Anniversary team that was chosen
Speaker 1: by the same Hall of Fame committee, UM, one of
Speaker 1: only two members of the All sixties Decade team. UM
Speaker 1: not in the Hall of Fame, five time Pro bowler,
Speaker 1: key member of you know, five championship teams, obviously, the
Speaker 1: block in the Ice Bowl. He brought up the field goals,
Speaker 1: the kicking in the sixty two championship game in the cold,
Speaker 1: windy can asitions at Yankee Stadium, a sixteen to seven
Speaker 1: championship that the Packers won. Jerry Kramer scored ten of
Speaker 1: those points, three field goals at an extra point in
Speaker 1: really cold, windy conditions at Yankee Stadium, all those kinds
Speaker 1: of things, And um, the Goslin was very very pleased
Speaker 1: that that this credibility issue with the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: has now gone away. Yeah, And as I've always said,
Speaker 1: and I said this, going back to last fall Mike
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. To me, it's about people that
Speaker 1: change the game. Jerry Kramer changed the game on the field,
Speaker 1: off the field. He was such a pioneer in terms
Speaker 1: of putting himself out there and for my money, still arguably,
Speaker 1: if not the greatest ambassador of Green Bay Packers football,
Speaker 1: one of the top three. And for him to still
Speaker 1: have that connection again whenever he got in it was
Speaker 1: going to be good. But the fact he was able
Speaker 1: to walk that aisle and and be a part of that,
Speaker 1: that's what needed to be righted. That's the wrong that
Speaker 1: need to be righted. I think it wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: the same if Jerry wasn't there for it, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad that he was able to experience it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's the greatest blessing of of this whole thing.
Speaker 1: And I know we're running out of time here, we
Speaker 1: have to get going. But I will just say to
Speaker 1: the fans out there, if you have eighteen and a
Speaker 1: half minutes, check out that speech. Watch it from beginning
Speaker 1: to end. You and I can't do it justice just
Speaker 1: sitting here talking about it. So many great things he
Speaker 1: talked about with standpoint Ohio, standpoint Idaho. Excuse me, his
Speaker 1: college career, his Packers career, his post packer's career, and
Speaker 1: just just an inspiration in in so many ways. But
Speaker 1: with that, we're going to sign off on this edition
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Speaker 1: see you next time.