1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz. 3 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: We're coming to you here from our studios at lambeau 4 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Field and West. Since we last spoke, there's been a 5 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: lot going on. I was in Canton, Ohio for a 6 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: few days. You were here in Green Bay covering the 7 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: Packers and training camp and through family night. Let's start 8 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: with what's going on with the two thousand eighteen Packers. 9 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: Some news with regards to the starting offensive tackles here 10 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Brian blog at David Botr. Why don't you get us 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: up to date? Well? First off with Bloga being able 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: to make it back to the practice field on Friday 13 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: for the first time, getting cleared and activated from that 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: physically unable to perform lest uh, less than nine months 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: since his a c L that's last November against the 16 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. I believe it was an unbelievable turnaround for 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: him to be back and play. I know he said 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: he was pushing Doc mackenzie to be able to be 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: cleared in time for training camp. That was his big goal. 20 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: But as he also admitted, there was kind of this 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: thinking they wanted to get closer that nine month mark 22 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: with his recovery. Now he's coming along slowly. They're not 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: just obviously throwing him back into team periods of that. 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: They're they're just letting him get his feedback underneath him. 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: He did on a precautionary basis, on a planned basis 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: set out of Saturday night's Family Night practice. But the 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: fact that Brian blag is back out there is a big, 28 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: big thing for this offensive line. Uh. And then David 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: Batari actually exited that Family Night practice with an ankle injury. 30 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: By all accounts so far, it looks like he averted disaster. Um, 31 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: So we'll we'll see where all that lines up. Kyle 32 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: Murphy got some extra reps at that left tackle position, 33 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: Jason Spriggs getting a lot of work as well. So UM, 34 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: I think the hope is though insummation of all this 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: is the pack is are hopeful their left tackle right 36 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: tackle be in place for the start of the regular season. Yeah. 37 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: And I just have to say, what an impressive recovery 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 1: by Brian Bologa, because I'll admit, when Mike McCarthy said 39 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: at the start of training camp that week one was 40 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: on the table for Brian. I was. I was surprised. 41 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't something that I expected to hear, just because 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: these A c L recoveries can sometimes be so extensive 43 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: and so difficult to get through. Blogg had already gone 44 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: through one a few years ago. I'm sure that was 45 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: a factor. But also just knowing having covered this team 46 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: since two thousand and six, the conservative nature of Dr 47 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: Mackenzie with regards to injuries and getting players back out 48 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: on the field. We saw it with Jordy Nelson when 49 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: he came back from his A c L. I just 50 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: really didn't think, even as hard as Bolaga, maybe you 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: wanted to push Dr Mackenzie that he would necessarily get 52 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: the medical clearance this early. But hats off to him, 53 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: Kudos to him for where he is right now. Put 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: in a lot of work to get to this point, 55 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: and and you look at his recovery, his timeline, he 56 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: said it a couple of weeks ago. I mean he benefited, 57 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: He feels he benefited greatly from that first experience back 58 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen, knowing what the aches and pains 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: are gonna be, like, how you need to push yourself 60 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: through that on a side, don't. I was actually talking 61 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: in Dmitri Goodson for a story I'm working on this 62 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: week about his own journey. Uh. He mentioned that the 63 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: toughest thing is you've got to stay in a routine 64 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: because if you don't, that's where the soreness comes from. 65 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: That's where you start to really feel it. And you 66 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: just gotta trust that you're doing the right things day 67 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: in and day out, so that as it gradually goes on, 68 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: that soreness goes away. And and from Bolaga to be 69 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: able to make this kind of turn around, Uh, it's 70 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: a major boost for the Packers offensive line and obviously 71 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: this offense and Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, And let me ask 72 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 1: you this because I was long car ride with our 73 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: video producer Mike Atkinson. He was, um, you know, gracious 74 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: enough to do the entire drive from green Beata Camp. Yeah, 75 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: the big, the big avalanche truck. He had all his 76 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: camera equipment loaded up in the back. But we're driving 77 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: along the Ohio Turnpike late on Thursday afternoon to get 78 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: to Canton, and I start flipping through Twitter and seeing 79 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: what's going on and this, uh touchdown passed by Aaron 80 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: Rodgers in practice on Thursday. It sounds like I missed 81 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: something pretty spectac I really wish you could have seen it. Mike. 82 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: I wrote about that an inbox because for my money, 83 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: this is training camp number eight that I've covered in 84 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: some form or fashion um and we talked about it 85 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: all the time. Aaron Rodgers makes amazing plays on a 86 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: daily basis. Mike McCarthy even mentioned it. Nothing surprised you, 87 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: Randall Cops said, nothing surprises you. I gotta be honest 88 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: with you, though, that throw kind of surprised me a 89 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: little bit. Because here's the thing you gotta understand about 90 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. So it's it's two minute situation. They're down, 91 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: it's fourth and ten, they're at their own there, they're 92 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: at the twenty six yard line at this point in time. 93 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, like Aaron Rodgers does, coaxes the defense into 94 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: an offside so now he's not getting one but two 95 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: plays with those eight seconds left. So everybody runs their 96 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: go route. Everybody's jetting off to the end zone. Aaron 97 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: Rodgers rolls left and if you look at it, my 98 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: he did one quick look to the right side of 99 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: the field. He's on the left side of the hash 100 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: marks at this point, he did one quick look to 101 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: Geronimo Allison's side of the field and then got his 102 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: vision back over here, and without even looking at Allison, 103 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: throws it pinpoint perfect pass, puts it in a spot 104 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: that Allison six three about is only going to be 105 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: the only player that's gonna be able to catch it. 106 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: He jumps up, pulls it down. It was one of 107 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: those type of plays. And I was standing with a 108 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 1: bunch of other reporters where we're just all like looking 109 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: at each other, like did that really just happen? Because 110 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: you gotta remember what's quarterback one oh one? Going back 111 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: to high school. You're rolling left here on the other side, 112 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: back across the field, don't throw the ball across the 113 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: hash marks and and Mike McCarthy, I thought it's such 114 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: a great quote with it too. Every single practice you 115 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: could almost create a library out of Aaron Rodgers in 116 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: the pastes he makes that one though, is gonna get 117 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: filed in that special library. It was one of those 118 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: plays that only a handful of human beings on this 119 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: earth that any point in time could ever make. Yeah, 120 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of the fans have been asking, well, 121 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: where's the video we want to see this. I'm sure 122 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: they want to see the video of the play on 123 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: the show, But just to explain, during training camp practices, 124 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: there are certain periods, most of the eleven on eleven 125 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: full scrimmage like periods. Cameras are not allowed to shoot 126 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: those plays. So the only video of the play that 127 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: exists are the actual um the video crew for the packers, 128 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: for the team, the coaches and players. They're the ones 129 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: who have the video of it. Like we don't have it. 130 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: We weren't allowed to shoot it. Other TV stations locally 131 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: around the nobody else was allowed to shoot it. So 132 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: just to to clarify that, but let me throw this 133 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: at you. You mentioned he got a defender to jump 134 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 1: offsides and it was a free play. Does he even 135 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: try that pass if it's not a free Probably not, 136 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: Probably not. But I thought the thing that was the 137 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: most interesting about the whole course of events is that 138 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: Alison talked about this as a rookie with thinking of 139 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: the scrambled drill from a textbook perspective, his real instincts 140 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: would have been to follow Rogers to trail left, But 141 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: after being in the offense for two years, he understands 142 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: his role is to stay in that area of the 143 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: field because you just never know what's going to happen 144 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. So it was such an interesting thing 145 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: and as Rogers said afterwards, it was it was a 146 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: heads up play by Alison and knowing where he's at. 147 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: You wrote about him last week for our website. It's 148 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: just the maturation and growth of a football player. And 149 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: Allison had a heck of a family night too. I mean, 150 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: this is a guy that you can tell he's not 151 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: thinking anymore. I mean he's just doing what he's been 152 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: coached to do, and he's and he's being able to 153 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: stay in the moment. That's so important. And I think 154 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: you have Davante Adams, you have Randall Cobb. They've have 155 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: numbers of years experience now. But in terms of that 156 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: that big chemistry word we always talk about, Allison started 157 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: to develop that. And yeah, you're right, if it's a 158 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: fourth down they don't have the free play, maybe he 159 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: looks a little differently, but at the same time, it's 160 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. You never really can you know, kind of 161 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: pigeonholed him to one thing and you never know what 162 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: he's gonna do. Yeah, as you said before hopefully all 163 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: the ports on David bak tr you remained positive that 164 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: that any sort of serious problem was averted there. What 165 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: else jumped out to you as far as family and 166 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: night goes. I know you wrote a little bit about 167 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: the rookie receiver from Missouri, Jamon Moore. Jamon Moore was 168 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: it was probably the highlight as far as the play 169 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: of the day was concerned. Um packers. You know that 170 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: we had some storms rolling into uh so, I think 171 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, things was moving with a pretty good tempo, 172 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: trying to get all their work in, and they were 173 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: working just in this this red zone period, you know, 174 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: pass under pressure type period, and basically More got himself 175 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: isolated against I believe it was Josh Hawkins. Hawkins had 176 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: really good coverage on the play, but Brett Hunley rolls 177 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: back and he has a one on one situation in 178 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: the end zone in a red zone period. That's gonna 179 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: be something where a quarterback, specifically, if you're looking at 180 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in the regular season, he's gonna want to 181 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: be able to trust that receiver to make that play 182 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: in a fifty fifty situation. Jamon Moore did that, and 183 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: this is a young man that I know. There were 184 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: some questions about his hands coming out of Missoo. I 185 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: think his athletic ability, his size is off the charts. 186 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: It's exactly what you want for the receiver position. But 187 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: like any young player, you know, he's had those ups 188 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: and downs of a training camp. And for him, he 189 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: said it with two things that really stood out about 190 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: that family night. One, it was his first chance really 191 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: getting to play under the lights. Uh, not only of 192 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: Lambeu Field, but you know practice in general. They've been 193 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: all at eleven eleven fifteen Central time so far, so 194 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: getting a chance to be in front of that crowd 195 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: really helped. And also the plays like that, he said, 196 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: that's really what allows Brett Hunley or Deshaun Kaiser, even 197 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers when he gets the reps with them to 198 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: have the trust in him to make that play. It 199 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: was a really good situation, a really good opportunity, and 200 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: he went out there and I thought, you look at 201 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: his footwork, what he did on to being able to 202 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: protect that ball, win the fifty battle. Uh. We need 203 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: to get to some preseason games with all these young 204 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: receivers to see what they really have. But for him, 205 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: I think that that was the right step towards that 206 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: game against the Titans. Well, you mentioned it this week. 207 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: The Packers are going to pivot their preparation to the 208 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: preseason opener on Thursday night at lambeau Field before we 209 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: pivot our discussion on this show. Though it's a little 210 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: bit of sponsored business to take care of at home 211 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: or here in the sta ends. We all know that 212 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: Green Bay fans give it their all and that takes 213 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: a lot of energy. So grab a warm bowl of 214 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: Campbell's Chunky Soup. It's meaty goodness fuels the greatness of 215 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: Packers fans everywhere. Try the delicious classic chicken noodle soup. 216 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: Just visit your local supermarket and ask for Campbell's Chunky Soup, 217 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: the official sup partner of the Green Bay Packers. Okay, 218 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: Wes I mentioned Thursday at the Long Drive to Canton, Ohio, 219 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: And I tell you there were a lot of really 220 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: really great moments throughout this weekend with um Jerry Kramer 221 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: and covering his long awaited and long overdue and Shrineman 222 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But I'm gonna 223 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: mention three of them to you that really stood out 224 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: to me. Some of them I'm sure you saw on television. 225 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: One was when he got his gold jacket on Friday night, 226 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: his daughter Alicia, who had begun a campaign to sort 227 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: of keep his candidacy alive, something that you know, Jerry 228 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily totally on board with when she started it, 229 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: but she was there to put the gold jacket on 230 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: him at the Civic Center in downtown Canton. That was 231 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: That was a special moment. Then on Saturday, I was 232 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: fortunate enough and and Mike Atkinson, our video producer, was 233 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: with me as well to be at Jerry Kramer's private party. 234 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: And uh, I don't know if you saw the picture 235 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: that I posted on Twitter, but I happened to get 236 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: a snapshot of Paul Hornick sitting next to Jerry Kramer, 237 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: both of them wearing their gold jackets. And there was 238 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: something really really special about that. And then the speech 239 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: on Saturday night, I mean, wow, blew me away, Absolutely 240 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: blew me away. I had to I had to gather 241 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: my thoughts quickly and get a story. I wanted to 242 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: get a story up on our website about that speech 243 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: as quickly as possible. But the more I've thought about 244 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: it since Saturday night, I've I've just been absolutely blown 245 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: away by what he did up on that stage. And 246 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: before I get into my little two cents on this, 247 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: because I'll be honest with you, Mike, the show is unscripted. 248 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: I was thinking all morning long of what I wanted 249 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: to say in this segment and in indirect correlation with 250 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: that speech. But if you haven't had a chance yet, 251 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: check out spots column from Saturday night. It was exceptional. 252 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: I thought, really captured the moment and exactly what the 253 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: emotions are like for a man that's now eighty two 254 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: years old, is still a sharpened way he as ever 255 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: aboutely to my for my money, Um, I think that 256 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: asked to go down as one of the top ten 257 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: top five all time Hall of Fame speeches, and and 258 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: I have a number of reasons for this one. At 259 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: no point in that speech did it ever really feel 260 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: like it was about Kramer, do you know what I mean? 261 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: It was about his high school coach. It was about 262 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi. And that was something that pointed out. Yeah, 263 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: and that was something I pointed out as well. I 264 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: thought it was incredibly classy and respectful of him that 265 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: not once in an eighteen and a half minute speech. 266 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: Did he even mention that he had to wait forty 267 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: plus years for this incredible moment to happen for him? 268 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: That was an afterthought. It it never It never came up, 269 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: and you would have thought it would have, and nobody 270 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: would have blamed him if he had talked about it. 271 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't make it about himself. He made 272 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: it about his feelings about about his team and and 273 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: about what that team accomplished and how he got to 274 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: where he did, and the people who inspired him along 275 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: the way. And he was using that speech to just 276 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: try to inspire others, much as he has done throughout 277 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: his entire life, in the whole if you can, you 278 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: will speech. And and here here's what stood out to 279 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: me though the most. And obviously I was trying to 280 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: cover family night, and we were we had a monitor 281 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: up trying to watch the Hall of Fame speeches as well. 282 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: But with all due respect to Hall of Fame guys 283 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: that have gone in there, and you know, given these 284 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: high salute and speeches and kind of sort of bast 285 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: in their own greatness, I think that that happens quite 286 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: a bit. Jerry Kramer. What I love the most about 287 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: his speeches. It was eighteen minutes long. He could have 288 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: talked for two hours if you wanted to, and nobody 289 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: would have complained. Nobody would have complained. He was straight 290 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: to the point and he's captivating, Michael, and that isn't 291 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: news to you. And I know we've talked to him, 292 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: we've interviewed him, We've seen how he associates with people. 293 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: Such an engaging man. He's an engaging man with tremendous stories. 294 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: That Don Chandler story I thought was really interesting. Um 295 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: I I was in the press box was an absolute 296 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: stitches when he told that story about them losing fifty 297 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: six and nothing to the Baltimore Colts. Uh. And you 298 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: know he's saying that they almost killed the poor pony 299 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: that was running around after every touchdown for the Colts. Yeah, 300 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: the press box and Canton was was cracking up on 301 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: that one. It was tremendous. But the thing I want 302 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: to ask you the most, because you were there, you 303 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: were experiencing it. We talked so much about Alicia and 304 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: you had a chance to speak with her two going 305 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: into this thing. How emotional was this for them? Because 306 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: if you watch the monitors, his children in the stands 307 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: her on the stage, a guy that committed his entire 308 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: life to football. You could tell both for him and 309 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: the family just how meaningful that moment was. Yeah, it was. 310 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: It was really incredible. I got a chance to interview Alicia. 311 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: She was nice enough to come on camera with us 312 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: at the party on Saturday afternoon. And this is, you know, 313 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: the Friday night, the gold jacket ceremony is all over. 314 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: Everybody's had a good night's rest, and everybody's in this 315 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: great mood for for a party, A fantastic party that 316 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: was put on. And uh, I get her on camera 317 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: and just ask her about the gold jacket ceremony, and 318 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: you could see the emotions like just instantly come back. 319 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't escape it. I mean it was, 320 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: it was. It was really something special. And to see 321 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: to see her put the jacket on him and then 322 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: and then to watch Cramer just kind of you know, 323 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: flash the hands like hey you know here, I mean, 324 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was a great moment. She 325 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: actually told us then when we did the interview with her, 326 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: she said she whispered to her dad on the stage 327 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: just as they were getting ready. She's like, okay, you're 328 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: ready dad, you know I mean, what a moment. I mean, 329 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, and and and for that to be a 330 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: private moment with them at the time on Friday night, 331 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: with you know, thousands of people in the stands at 332 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: the Sacivic Center and National Television watching the whole ceremony, 333 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: and they actually get to share that little moment between 334 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: the two of them when all this is going on. 335 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: Pretty cool stuff. It was absolutely adorable too. And they 336 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: did the whole gold jacket ceremony, the hot Mike that 337 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: was picking up everything Jerry was saying. So when they 338 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: finished the video package, I was just laughing my my 339 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: butt off. When he did the whole long time they 340 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: were talking about our long time ago whenever you put that, 341 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: and um, you know again, it's such an emotional moment 342 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: for everybody. And the other thing, the other point I 343 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: want to make two is I just think there's something 344 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: poetic about a man who's eighty two years old. I 345 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: think graduated high school I want to say, in like 346 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four or something like that. And it to me, 347 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: in my opinion, it was a power of social media 348 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: that really helped him elevate his campaign. Alicia, I remember 349 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: when I went absolutely and Alicia when I went on 350 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, when I got on the beat in two 351 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: thousand twelve, I remember she was just starting her campaign 352 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: and it was almost heartbreaking every year when they would 353 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: do the Senior Finalists and he wouldn't get nominated. And 354 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: I remember reading that in her post, and she always 355 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: tried to stay positive in thirteen and fourteen and fifteen, 356 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: and then when it finally happened last fall, uh, last summer, 357 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: it was just it was incredible, an incredible development, incredible 358 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: situation for them, and and yeah, I think there was 359 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: an undeniable factor to it. Rick Goslin said that to 360 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: you too. I mean there was kind of this wart 361 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: on the Pro Football Hall of Fame, like why are 362 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: you turning your nose up at a guy that was 363 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: a member of the all All sixties decade team, you know, 364 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: had all the credentials that he had. But yet even 365 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: despite being eleven time finalists and a former Senior finalists, 366 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: the only one that my recollection hadn't gotten in in 367 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: terms of the last twenty five years as a senior finalist. 368 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: It was disappointing, and it was good to see them 369 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: right that wrong. Yeah, I was. I was really pleased 370 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: to get a chance to talk with Rick Goslin on Friday. 371 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: We we did an interview with him, and then I 372 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: was able to fashion a story out of a lot 373 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: of his comments. Very insightful guy, obviously. For those who 374 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: don't know Rick, he's a longtime NFL writer. Spent the 375 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: bulk of his career in newspaper at the Dallas Morning News, 376 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: covered the NFL on a national landscape. He's now with 377 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: the Talk of Fame network, but he has been um 378 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame Selection Committee voter for over twenty 379 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: years and he's also on the Hall of Fame Senior Committee. 380 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: So he was very instrumental in just getting Kramer's candidacy 381 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: pushed forth again in terms of in front of the 382 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: Senior Committee, where then they named him a finalist. He 383 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: gave the presentation at the actual selection committee meeting, the 384 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: voting meeting on Super Bowl weekend in uh this last 385 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: winner in Minneapolis, and so getting a chance to talk 386 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: to him and and and just here his perspective was 387 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: was really interesting. What I didn't know is that he 388 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: grew up in Detroit watching the Packers sweep and Jerry 389 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: Kramer leading that sweep to demolish his Detroit Lions, the 390 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: team that that he grew up rooting for. So but 391 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: m Rick's perspective very very valuable in this instance. And 392 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: uh and yeah, the most poignant comment I thought from 393 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: him was when he said the Hall of Fame had 394 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: a credibility problem with Jerry Kramer not being in the 395 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: only member of the fiftieth Anniversary team that was chosen 396 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: by the same Hall of Fame committee, UM, one of 397 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: only two members of the All sixties Decade team. UM 398 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: not in the Hall of Fame, five time Pro bowler, 399 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: key member of you know, five championship teams, obviously, the 400 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: block in the Ice Bowl. He brought up the field goals, 401 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: the kicking in the sixty two championship game in the cold, 402 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: windy can asitions at Yankee Stadium, a sixteen to seven 403 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: championship that the Packers won. Jerry Kramer scored ten of 404 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 1: those points, three field goals at an extra point in 405 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: really cold, windy conditions at Yankee Stadium, all those kinds 406 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: of things, And um, the Goslin was very very pleased 407 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: that that this credibility issue with the Hall of Fame 408 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: has now gone away. Yeah, And as I've always said, 409 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: and I said this, going back to last fall Mike 410 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. To me, it's about people that 411 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: change the game. Jerry Kramer changed the game on the field, 412 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: off the field. He was such a pioneer in terms 413 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: of putting himself out there and for my money, still arguably, 414 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: if not the greatest ambassador of Green Bay Packers football, 415 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: one of the top three. And for him to still 416 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: have that connection again whenever he got in it was 417 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: going to be good. But the fact he was able 418 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: to walk that aisle and and be a part of that, 419 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: that's what needed to be righted. That's the wrong that 420 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: need to be righted. I think it wouldn't have been 421 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: the same if Jerry wasn't there for it, and I'm 422 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: glad that he was able to experience it. Yeah, I 423 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: think that's the greatest blessing of of this whole thing. 424 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: And I know we're running out of time here, we 425 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: have to get going. But I will just say to 426 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: the fans out there, if you have eighteen and a 427 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: half minutes, check out that speech. Watch it from beginning 428 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: to end. You and I can't do it justice just 429 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: sitting here talking about it. So many great things he 430 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: talked about with standpoint Ohio, standpoint Idaho. Excuse me, his 431 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: college career, his Packers career, his post packer's career, and 432 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: just just an inspiration in in so many ways. But 433 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: with that, we're going to sign off on this edition 434 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our 435 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: coverage of the team on Packers dot com on Twitter, 436 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: He's at west Hot I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers 437 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: for the team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody. We'll 438 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: see you next time.