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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong is Joe, Ketty Armstrong and

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Speaker 1: Jetty and he Armstrong and Yeddy Oh Foreman connected. I

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Speaker 1: think he hurt. Joe Fraser down, Goes Frasier, down, Goes

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Speaker 1: Frasia down, Goes Fraser. Foreman is all over. Joe Fraser,

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Speaker 1: Frasier is down again. J Dundea is screaming, stopping. It

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Speaker 1: is over. It is over in the second round.

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Speaker 2: George Foreman becoming heavyweight champion of the world back in

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Speaker 2: what year was that seventy three something like that, something

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Speaker 2: like that, Yeah, and Howard Cosell making the call. George

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Speaker 2: Foreman died over the weekend. The reason we're playing that

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Speaker 2: if you don't know boxing, you know him from the grill.

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Speaker 2: The George Foreman grill turned it into a gazillion dollar empire.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask Michael to repeat his touching

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Speaker 1: and thorough What do you call it biography? No, it's

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Speaker 1: an autography. No, when you guys ulig, no, that's not

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Speaker 1: it either. Anyway, you're you're touching. Preview tribute to George Foreman,

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Speaker 1: Michael Great Boxer and a better grilled salesman. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: looking at me like, what are you talking at? What

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Speaker 1: you want to hear? Click twelve? Sure it's really good. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: A friend of mine, I said, jeege, you're making all

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Speaker 3: these other companies wealthy. Why don't you get your own product?

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Speaker 3: And we looked around and found the grill. No one

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Speaker 3: wanted to be bothered with it at all. They had

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Speaker 3: names for it, joked for it, and the grease really

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Speaker 3: rolled off, and they still tender. I hated it. I said, boy,

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Speaker 3: let's do it. But I never expected it to be

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Speaker 3: so successful. And then all of a sudden, the checks

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Speaker 3: just started rolling in. This thing sold over one hundred million.

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Speaker 1: He told obituary. That's the world is a hundred million.

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Speaker 1: George Forman grills.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: You know, such an interesting guy making seventy six is

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Speaker 1: that right? Having made your living getting punched in the

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Speaker 1: head for a number of years is pretty impressive. But

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Speaker 1: he had such a cheerful attitude about life once he

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Speaker 1: made the Christian turn. Before that, he did not.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever watched the documentary When

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Speaker 2: We Were Kings, which won an Oscar Fantastic Movie. If

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Speaker 2: you like the whole thing. It's all about Foreman and

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Speaker 2: Ali and that particular fight. But George Foreman was a

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Speaker 2: bad person and an angry person with never a smile

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Speaker 2: on his face up until the point that he found

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Speaker 2: Jesus in a locker room and became a completely different

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Speaker 2: human being, which is its own amazing story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, indeed. Yeah. Boy, if you're old enough to

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Speaker 1: remember the heyday of boxing in the early seventies, when

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Speaker 1: it was Foreman, Nali and Frasier trading the crown back

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Speaker 1: and forth and just great fights. Remember because when George

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Speaker 1: Foreman knocked up George Joe Fraser there to become the

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Speaker 1: heavyweight champion of the world, it was such a big

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Speaker 1: deal at that time. I remember asking my mom before

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Speaker 1: know the name of who the new heavyweight champion of

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Speaker 1: the world was to be. You know, part of the

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Speaker 1: cool crowd is like an eight year old or whatever,

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Speaker 1: because that's just something you had to know. Can you

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Speaker 1: imagine that these no, no, no, my kids, you got

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Speaker 1: to know mister Beast's latest count just to giveaway, right,

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Speaker 1: A couple of Chris Foreman could have whooped mister Beast's ass, by.

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Speaker 2: The way, even in his forties, because George Foreman came

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Speaker 2: back and won the heavyweight title again when he was

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Speaker 1: Sad fight, as I recall, and he took a lot

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Speaker 2: So a couple of things I want to get to

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Speaker 2: later that have nothing to do with politics before I

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Speaker 2: launch into this political pulling. I listened to a podcast

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Speaker 2: about from an astrophysicist about life and space and that

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Speaker 2: sort of stuff that was so flippant interesting, and I

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about that later. And then this.

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Speaker 2: A person I know, Boy, I gotta be really vague.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to get them in trouble because this

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Speaker 2: is not particularly cool. I got a bunch of screen

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Speaker 2: captures of a group conversation online from women who are

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Speaker 2: using AI as therapists, and particularly advice on how to

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Speaker 1: This a good thing or a bad thing?

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Speaker 2: Or a weird thing, because to me, obviously the weird

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Speaker 1: Fall I don't know. It's like you're watching the show

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Speaker 1: of recognize yourself. Then it's all about the you know,

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Speaker 1: the output. How's the advice? Well, who knows? Who knows? Well?

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Speaker 1: You look at some of the hallucinations the AI has

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Speaker 1: a hallucination or or my god, some of the stories

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Speaker 1: we've heard about teenagers who have had quote unquote relationships

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Speaker 1: with some AI somewhere that's like told them, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're not happy. So, I mean the women terrible advice.

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Speaker 2: These women are talking about the great comfort they get,

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Speaker 2: you know, and they have had a rough day to

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Speaker 2: talk to their AI therapist and it just feels like,

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Speaker 1: And that's what they like talking.

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Speaker 2: I think we're going down a really weird fricking road. Man, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what I got from reading all these messages. It's already

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Speaker 2: going on. It's I've been presenting it as you know,

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Speaker 2: in the future. People might no, no, no, it's already happening

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Speaker 2: way more than I realized. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, these

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Speaker 1: Not this isn't yeah weirdos and work at a university

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Speaker 1: of how sideways this sort of thing can go these days.

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Speaker 1: Especially at the same time though, I mean, I'm picturing

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Speaker 1: very bitchy and negative all the time, and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: How should I deal with it? I could see getting

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised you are, and maybe you're right, but I

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Speaker 1: Oh well, hang on now, hang on. I say, there

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Speaker 1: are books, there are magazine written by people. Well, AI

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Speaker 2: I mean it's it's theoretically synthesizing everything it has read

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's without danger. I just don't think

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Speaker 2: So, well, this is what the AI told one person.

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Speaker 2: For instance, you're used to managing his emotions, and now

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Speaker 2: that he's upset or at least quiet, it's triggering your guilt.

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Speaker 1: But you're right.

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't feel guilty. You didn't do anything wrong. You

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Speaker 2: were thoughtful in your message, and it's okay to want

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Speaker 2: to date yourself after explaining to the AI what went on.

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Speaker 1: I just find this very weird. That's getting pretty specific.

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Speaker 2: If he chooses to be upset, that's on him. You're

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Speaker 2: allowed to take care of yourself, even if it doesn't

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's getting very very specific. Okay, it's not you know,

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Speaker 1: some people have negative energy and it's best to see

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Speaker 2: That's like, in this situation which you have described, you're

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Speaker 2: the good guy, he's the ahle oh boy, which is well,

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Speaker 2: it fits in with therapy. That's what therapists do almost always.

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Speaker 2: That's why, like ninety percent of therapy is worthless. That's

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Speaker 2: what a therapy does. They co sign your bs a therapist.

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Speaker 2: Most of the time, you're you're a write and down

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Speaker 2: trodden and they are awful human beings and need to

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Speaker 1: That's that's what you get almost always from therapy.

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Speaker 2: So it's not surprising that AI therapy would be feeding

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Speaker 2: people that. But it's just I don't know the companionship,

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Speaker 2: the the the leaning on the chat bought for these conversations,

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Speaker 2: and at some point you're gonna stop talking to.

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Speaker 1: Your friends about it. You can only talk to the

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Speaker 1: computer about it. That's the problem. It's the as opposed

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Speaker 1: to talking to a friend, calling your mom, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're right. I'm on board. It's evil. It's horrifying. We

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Speaker 2: I don't know if evil's the right word. But and

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Speaker 2: like I said, it's already happening. I've got many, many

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Speaker 2: to let me know, this is how much it's happening,

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Speaker 2: like in my friend group already.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Evil implies intent. I just

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Speaker 2: Especially if AI is going to lean toward you know,

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Speaker 2: you're the victim. You definitely want that more than maybe

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Speaker 2: if you talk to a friend and says, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it sounds like he's got a good point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I as you know, I think of myself

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Speaker 1: as an optimistic cynic. I don't I'm a cynical. I'm

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Speaker 1: a nihilist cynic. Wow. Wow, how pleasant to be around.

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Speaker 1: I would I need to see a serious inflection point

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Speaker 1: or I do believe humanity is on the path to

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Speaker 1: giant drops in population, huge change in the trajectory of

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Speaker 1: human occupation of the earth. We are not getting together

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Speaker 1: with our friends, we are not getting together with lovers,

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Speaker 1: we are not making babies, we are not forming families.

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Speaker 1: AI could be about to put a zillion piece a

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Speaker 1: lot of work, or reduce, certainly the need for them

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Speaker 2: Feels very, very funky to me. Very many teenage sea changes.

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Speaker 2: How many teenage girls. Teenage boys too, but girls more

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Speaker 2: into the AI chat. Bought it that my mom told

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Speaker 2: me I can't this, do this and that. What do

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Speaker 2: you think I think your mom is being overly protective? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: well ye eh. No country for old men, glad. I'm

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Speaker 2: i I wish I was eighty. I wish I was

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Speaker 2: on death's door. I don't think I can handle the

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Speaker 1: Michael. When mankind dies out, what do you think I've

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Speaker 1: always tended to think it'll be a planet of the beavers,

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Speaker 1: the apes in second place, in spite of their better

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Speaker 1: pr A planet of the apes and maybe the ants.

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Speaker 1: What's your your pick? I'm gonna go with the beavers. Well,

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Speaker 1: you like beavers. They're hardworking, they're industrious.

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Speaker 2: A non fun, real life, cynical nihilist answer is who

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Speaker 1: it's all about overthrowing Western civilization. Has a dozen different

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Speaker 2: otherwise there's no way I would hire somebody from Columbia,

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Speaker 2: right who graduated Columbia recently?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I'd run in the other direction. Yeah, unless

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Speaker 1: they proved that they were not, you know, woke mind

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Speaker 1: virus captured. I think we're back to the university president's

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Speaker 1: case by case. I think some of them Jack are

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Speaker 1: absolutely thinking that, thinking that, Oh thank god. It's because

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Speaker 1: I tell you what I'm hearing from all of my

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Speaker 1: friends on Wall Street or you know, in business around

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Speaker 1: the country that they're terrified of our graduates, not attracted

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Speaker 1: to them, but some again are so captured or part

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Speaker 1: of it that they don't care. So here I want

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Speaker 1: to illustrate. Here are these shocking, disillusioning concession that Columbia

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Speaker 1: University made, which has the New York Times all in

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Speaker 1: a lather. Uh oh, many in academia calling this an

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Speaker 1: actor surrender. Many of the steps Colombia is promising should

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Speaker 1: have been made long ago in its own best interests.

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Speaker 1: Restricting masks during protests means rule breakers will have to

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Speaker 1: take responsibility for their actions. Oh no, could disagree with that.

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Speaker 1: Clear rules clearly enforced about time, place, and manner. Restrictions

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Speaker 1: on campus speech will raise the cost for those who

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Speaker 1: want to block speakers they dislike. Oh no, ending the

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Speaker 1: Heckler's veto at a college. What a terrible thing to

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Speaker 1: do at sarcasm for those are just waking up. The

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Speaker 1: school will also incorporate into the formal policy. Listen to

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Speaker 1: this incredible concession Columbia has been beaten into taking. They

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Speaker 1: will incorporate into formal policy the definition of anti Semitism

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Speaker 1: recommended by their own Anti Semitism task Force, and it

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Speaker 1: will adopt the so called institutional neutrality institution wide that

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Speaker 1: means the school itself and its departments won't take sides

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Speaker 1: on political controversies of the day. Now, that principle, which

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Speaker 1: is associated with the University of Chicago, well, it used

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Speaker 1: to be associated with universities everywhere all the time, because,

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Speaker 1: pardon me, that's what they're effing's supposed to be doing,

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Speaker 1: teaching kids how to think, not what to think, and

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Speaker 1: so dragging them back even a couple of feet towards

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Speaker 1: sanity is seen as outrageous in a lot of the

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Speaker 1: college campuses. And of course they mentioned in the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street General the editorial board, and they're quite correct. The

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Speaker 1: test will be whether it's enforced throughout the institutions or

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Speaker 1: all of these reforms will be controversial only among those

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Speaker 1: who think a university as an ivory foxhole. Oh that's

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Speaker 1: a great phrase. Who wrote that the board an ivory

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Speaker 1: fox hole? Love? That is an ivory.

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Speaker 2: Fox hole from which to launch political movements or indoctrinate students.

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Speaker 1: All perfectly reasonable. I love this. I love this.

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Speaker 2: Oh one more note, Wow, I hadn't looked into it

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Speaker 2: this much. That's what they're describing as some sort of

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Speaker 2: unholy surrender to maga.

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Speaker 1: Yes, wow, those are the main Uh, you know it

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Speaker 1: changes now they want some sort of audit of the

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Speaker 1: Middle Eastern Studies Department because it's so flamingly anti Semitic.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's the devil's in the details there. Sure,

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Speaker 1: of course we'll have to see how that plays out,

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Speaker 1: but in the main, it's wonderful. One more note, and

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Speaker 2: For some reason, that reminded me, I wanted to talk

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Speaker 2: about how my neighbors are making me feel bad about

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Speaker 1: we could either rush through this like maniacs, or I

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Speaker 1: could pay off what do your tax dollars have to

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Speaker 1: do with all of this college campus madness? After a

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Speaker 2: And I will pay off. How my neighbors are making

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Speaker 1: Feel better about myself.

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Speaker 4: for as long as two years.

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Speaker 2: There you go with the ongoing tips for eggs, because

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Speaker 2: apparently all of us eat one hundred eggs per day,

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Speaker 2: and it's the most important thing in the world of

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Speaker 2: the cost of eggs.

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Speaker 1: Well in, a rise of thirty percent in the price

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Speaker 1: of eggs is thirty percent in their cost of living.

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Speaker 2: Because all I do is eat eggs all the time.

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Speaker 2: It's my entire bill every month, every credit card bill eggs. Sense,

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Speaker 2: that is kind of funny.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they are very expensive thanks to the inflation Bertsley,

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Speaker 1: but a have cereal, have like a ham sandwich for breakfast.

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Speaker 1: That's actually pretty enjoyable anyway, So I wanted to pay

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Speaker 1: this off for you. We've been talking about how the

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Speaker 1: a lot of the major universities are actually now bowing

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Speaker 1: to the pressure from the Trump administration to stop being

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Speaker 1: Marxist hives of anti American hate and perversion and flamingly

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Speaker 1: anti Semitic. By the way, even as you swear you're

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Speaker 1: tolerant and welcome all folks, just not the evil Jews

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Speaker 1: at Columbia University, for instance, or UCLA, we never forget anyway.

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Speaker 1: So what does your tax money have to do with this? Now?

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Speaker 1: You might not need to, you know, consider that angle,

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Speaker 1: because the way the universities are pumping out America hating

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Speaker 1: Marxist graduates and many of them are becoming school teachers

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Speaker 1: and indoctrinating your little kids is horrifying enough. But wait,

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Speaker 1: there's more so, As Alicia Finley writes, she's a brilliant writer.

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Speaker 1: Like most colleges, Columbia, who we're just talking about, relies

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Speaker 1: on federal funds and tax exemptions. These subsidies not only

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Speaker 1: allow colleges to exist, they fuel campus radicalism by encouraging

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Speaker 1: the growth of graduate programs and academic departments in social

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Speaker 1: sciences and humanities whose primary goals are to promote left

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Speaker 1: wing political causes rather than like turn loose useful people

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Speaker 1: to society. It's self serving.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta break through this because for forever, the

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Speaker 2: whole idea he's going to graduate school, she's going to

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Speaker 2: graduate school was such, you know, a good thing obviously.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, gotta break out of that. They're very accomplished.

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Speaker 2: It's not clearly a good thing at all anymore.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I'd say, in the vast majority of cases,

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Speaker 1: it's a time and wasted time and money. Start with

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Speaker 1: unlimited federal borrowing for grad students. Here's your tax dollars

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Speaker 1: at work. The Education Department caps the total amount of

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Speaker 1: federal loans for undergrads. The loan limit has helped keep

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Speaker 1: a lid on college costs, as you know, I've said

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Speaker 1: many times through the years, and people don't get this.

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Speaker 1: When you flood a market for a particular good or

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Speaker 1: service with money or incredibly cheap loans. Say your local

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Speaker 1: car dealer is offering eighty four month loans at one

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Speaker 1: point five percent. You look at that payment, you think,

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Speaker 1: I don't give a crap what the price is. That

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Speaker 1: payment's too good to pass up. So my weather, my

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Speaker 1: f one fifty just went from seventy grand to ninety

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Speaker 1: three grand. I don't care. And universities get that. So

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Speaker 1: you got this unlimited spigot of federal money. The loans

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Speaker 1: are backed, and then Joe Biden tries to forgive them

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Speaker 1: glad that Mummy is out the White House, and so

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Speaker 1: they just have carte launched to raise tuition or whatever

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Speaker 1: they want anyway, So the loan limit has helped keep

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Speaker 1: a lid on college costs. But that's just for undergrads.

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Speaker 1: The net cost of attendance at publican nonprofit colleges after

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Speaker 1: discounts has been flat over the last fifteen years. Partly

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Speaker 1: because inflation has been so high it's just kind of

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Speaker 1: kept up. But colleges, being the resourceful for profit businesses

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Speaker 1: they are, don't tell me, well, no, Joe, they're nonprofits. No,

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Speaker 1: you've got thousands and thousands and thousands of people profiting

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Speaker 1: from their business salaries pensions. Anyway, they boosted revenue by

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Speaker 1: adding pricey graduate programs and enrolling more grad students. Brown

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Speaker 1: University December warned it has a ninety million dollar budget

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Speaker 1: hole owing in Part two quote rapid growth in faculty

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Speaker 1: and staff positions, with staff growth out pacing growth in faculty,

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Speaker 1: how could it possibly be? So it's probably ei positions

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Speaker 1: and crapping, right, So it's just bureaucracy. It's not even teachers.

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Speaker 1: So what are you gonna do at Brown University? One

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Speaker 1: planned budget solution? Double the number of residential masters students.

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Speaker 1: Double it? Wow? And in what jack bioscience? Computer engineering? Huh?

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Speaker 1: Colleges around exactly. Colleges around the country are adding master's

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Speaker 1: programs in such fields as social work, humanitarian, community development,

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Speaker 1: and Middle Eastern studies, often costing six figures to rake

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Speaker 1: in more federal dollars. I love this. Columbia offers master's

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Speaker 1: degrees and negotiating into conflict resolution, sustainability management. You got

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Speaker 1: a master's in sustainability management, nobody even knows what that is,

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Speaker 1: and human capital management, the last being a fancy term

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Speaker 1: for HR. And then Alicia asks, hey, where all those

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Speaker 1: graduate peacemakers when the protesters were tearing Columbia part and

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Speaker 1: occupying building. You should have enlisted their help. So most

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Speaker 1: research universities enrolled two to three times as many grad

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Speaker 1: students as undergrads. Now you know why, man, And it's

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Speaker 1: our tax dollars financing that Marxist hell hole boo, I

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Speaker 1: say boo.

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