WEBVTT - Jeet Heer & Will Sommer 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.120 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.600 today's best minds, and Congressoman Lauren Bobert says, I am 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:14.480 not doing that when asked about the two hundred billion 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:19.360 dollars supplemental for Iran. We have such a great show 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:23.079 for you today. The nation's gene here stops by to 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:26.800 talk about the very stupid ways Donald Trump is navigating 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:29.840 the Iran war, the Iranian War. Then we'll talk to 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:34.080 the bulwarks, Will sommer about the many strains of anti 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:37.159 Semitism circling MAGA. But first the. 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:42.320 News, Smiley, this headline is just unbelievable. Global oil prices 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:45.240 struck in triple digits. We have one hundred and ten 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.440 dollars a gallon oil now and Goldman sex as it 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.440 may stay there for years. As I've been reporting diligent 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:53.479 reporting on my part. I walked to my corner. I 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.200 look at the gas station. We're up a dollar and 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:56.920 sixty cents since this war started. 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:01.240 Who could have told us that going to war in 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:06.360 the Middle East would make gas more expensive? Everyone would 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.360 have told you that, literally everyone. 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.760 It literally sounds like every day we read a report 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.640 that it's like this person had told them that this 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:15.360 would happen. 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:19.760 I mean, we were there, we were alive, Like we 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:24.560 know what happens. And what happens is that if you 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.679 go to war in the Middle East, and especially with 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:33.280 a country that has a strait that where twenty percent 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:36.920 of all oil, gas and fertilizer goes through that when 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.520 they close it, everything is going to get more expensive. 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:45.280 This is like tariffs, but stupider, totally unforced error, completely 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.640 self created. And by the way, when you talk to 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.800 oil people, when you talk to the people who are 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:57.920 trading in these markets, they say that we are not 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:01.160 going to be able to get back online for a 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.400 long time. That this is going to be like the 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.920 supply chain stuff during COVID. Oil is going to be 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.560 more expensive, Fertilizer is going to be more expensive. Food's 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.040 going to be more expensive. Plan tickets are going to 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:15.840 be more expensive. You are going to feel this. Even 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:20.720 if Donald Trump said the war is over, we win tomorrow, 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:22.960 he won't be able to put the genie back in 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:23.360 the bottle. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:27.160 Yeah, so, Mollie, many people were shocked this morning that 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.160 Trump put out a policy report. Oh my god, like 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.840 this doesn't happen, but it was on AI. And you'll 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:36.040 be really shocked to hear that it's basically trying to 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.800 block states from being able to regulate AI because this 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.639 administration is totally captured by the AI bosses. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.560 Yeah, you'll be surprised to know that Trump's policies are 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:50.400 just nothing, no regulation, no anything. Now, the good news 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.240 for Trump is the democrats policies when it comes to 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:58.120 technology are also nothing. So we are going to likely 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.680 be ruled by AI OVERLA. I mean, who even knows 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.400 what they'll do. It's not going to be good. Congress 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:08.880 should pre eminently state, by the way, Congress, you'll remember 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:12.320 Congress as the thing Donald Trump almost always ignores, should 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:16.560 preempt state AI laws that impose undo burdens to ensure 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:22.840 a minimally burdensome national standard consistent with these recommendations, not 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:26.440 fifty discording ones. Here's what it is. Donald Trump gets 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.400 a lot of money from the AI lobby, just like 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:33.560 a lot of other politicians, just like Chuck Schumer, god 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.800 love them, has a kid who works in technology. All 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:42.000 of these people are low key compromised by the tech lobby. 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:45.160 Sorry to tell you this is what it is. And 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:49.560 so here we have Donald Trump trying to prevent state regulation. 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.320 Here's the thing, and you're going to see a lot 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.880 of ads about kid safety. Do you know why you're 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.800 going to see a lot of ads about kid safety? 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:00.920 Tell me, because kid safety is the low hanging fruit, right, 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.760 the idea that chatbots are making children kill themselves. Like 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.760 if you were a government that was going to regulate anything, 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:09.880 that might be one of the things, you know, like 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.200 kids aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes, you use seatbelts, like 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.920 these are things that we have learned in this century 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:22.120 would be useful, should be useful. But that is not 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.880 what's happening here, right. They are trying to make it 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:29.480 so that there's no regulation. What I think will happen 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.760 because I'm seeing this more and more is that. And 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:33.839 you'll see this when you hear ads for like meta 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.360 meta we care about your kids. They don't care about 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.760 your kids, but they care about regulation. And then you 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.320 don't want to be regulated, and so they'll do lots 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.960 about that, say like we care about your kids, we 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.240 care about online safety. What they're doing here is gas 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.160 lighting you into thinking that they care about your kids 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.080 in online safety, so that the government doesn't regulate them 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:57.040 or they don't have to do any kind of safety. 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:57.720 That's real. 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.679 Yep. And it's very funny. When you read the Trade 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:04.640 magazine's documentaries right now, all you see is every documentary 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.919 is on protecting kids from social media and AI. Yeah, 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:11.600 but why so this is a really fun report from 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:15.479 the Times an Aran Gaberd turned intelligence duties over to Trump. 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.680 That's like one of the worst headlines I've ever read 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:18.160 in my life. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:23.120 Yes, so here we are Telsey Gabbard again. Telsey Gabert's 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.919 job is this PDB, this Presidential Daily Brief. We know 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.200 Donald Trump doesn't read it. We knew this, We've heard this, 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.839 he said it. I don't know how they get it 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.080 to him. So this is a headline that is about 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:40.880 a hearing where during the Senate Intelligence Committee, Gabbard was 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:46.080 asked whether or not Trump knew or whether or not 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.159 she told Trump that there was an imminent threat, that 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:53.039 Iran posed an imminent threat. And what they were trying 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.359 to do here was trying to get her to say 0:05:56.400 --> 0:06:01.520 what everybody knew, which was that well, Iran might have 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.720 gotten nuclear weapons, they didn't have them yet, and so 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:09.120 this was actually not imminent. Was it could have happened 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.320 in a year, could have happened in two years. Yes, 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.320 but there was the reason he went in was because 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.240 you know, it wasn't because they were about to blow 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:22.080 us up. But Tulsea just wanted to not answer this question, 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.960 so she did everything she could to punt it. And 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:30.000 here we get this headline. And again what is worth 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:33.880 seeing is like these people and in mister Kent's letter, 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.719 we talk about Joe Kent later in this episode where 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:39.279 we talk about how he is really not a hero 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:45.600 because he's resigning largely because of anti Semitism, But in 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.680 this letter he writes that or On pose no imminence 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:52.480 threat to our nation, which is what everyone else says. 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.359 So instead of saying the truth, Tulsea had to sort 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.479 of bob and weave through it. This is You're going 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.640 to see this more and more. You're going to see 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.680 this more and more because there's so much lying and 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.840 there's so much dishonesty coming out of this advent that 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:11.000 you see people trying to bomb and weave their way through, 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:16.200 and so it's worth just like watching it. Eventually, some 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.080 of these people will get in trouble for lying to 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.000 Congress if we survive. 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.000 Yeah, I have to give you a report from one 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.320 of the most dogged journalists in journalism on the subject 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.280 that just came in. It's one Laura Lumer. She says, 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.640 Scoop Tolci Gabbert's political staff expect that she's about to 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:37.520 resign following the resignation of her colleague Joe Ken What 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.240 for those that following at home or a lumber is 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.280 not a reliable reporter. But this is very, very funny 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:47.280 since it does not really align with her behavior ear 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.240 So we'll see how it plays out because we can 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.720 never tell because all the liars are always lying. 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.080 Whoa correct? 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.440 Speaking of the liars lying, the Trump team changed a 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.720 report to hide how bad Doge made things, particularly with 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:02.920 wait times at the Social Security Administration. 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:08.280 Yes, so Doege cut the government and made everything just 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:12.520 completely fucked in every which way, and now they are 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:17.160 trying to hide what they did. So the Social Security 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:22.720 Administration shows that just like the TSA, you're going to 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:26.600 be waiting a long time, about forty six minutes to 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:31.120 more than two hours. And this detail, which seems like 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:36.400 a big deal, was taken out of the Trump administration 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.520 report on that you know why, because these people are 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.560 big liars and so they take stuff out and this 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:51.559 is how we got here. We have exciting news over 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:56.440 at our YouTube channel. The third episode is out now 0:08:56.559 --> 0:09:01.040 from our series Project twenty twenty nine, Imagining, where we 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:05.240 examine what went wrong with democrats approach to policy and 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:09.880 how we can correct it and deliver changes for the 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:15.480 American people. 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Help us spread 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.720 the word here as a contributor to the nation and 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:07.080 the host of the Time of Monsters. Welcome, Welcome, ged. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:08.360 Here, Welcome Molly. 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:12.080 You are here to talk about America's forever wars. 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.800 Wait wait wait wait wait wait no, no, no, we 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:18.920 elected a MAGA president who promised no more forever wars 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:22.440 and also that he would deal with the inflation and 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:23.680 affordability crisis. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.520 I don't know what you're talking about. 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.000 No more forever wars except for this one. 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:32.360 Yes, because we just like almost war alcoholism, So you 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.320 know that that's always great logic. 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.840 One last one. This is it. We're gonna We're gonna 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:42.080 put now. I'm sure has having those thoughts on both 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:43.120 alcohol and war. 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.400 Right now, I still have a little money in my 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:49.199 bank account, and so I'm just gonna stop off at 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.640 this bar right next to the casino. 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:53.040 That's it, that's right. 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.880 Yeah, Obviously things are not going well with the frever war, 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.000 you know, like obviously a lot of people have drawn 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.640 the in lga with Iraq in two thousand and three, 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.520 and there's something there. And I actually think one of 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.960 the things we're witnessing now is that the insurgency in 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:07.559 Iraq is. 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.200 Building up again. I mean, this is one of the 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.560 old big worries. And I believe that the US is 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.079 trying to evacuate the Green Zone. It was just like 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.800 the web. There were a hold onto during the Iraq War. 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.160 I think listen, you should also think about another moment 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.080 in American history, which is like nineteen sixty five where 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:28.040 Lindon Johnson was drawn into Vietnam with Operation Rolling Thunder. 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.000 I think it's more pertinent because the Iraq War, will remember, 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.120 was sold to the American public. There was a big 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:37.680 pr campaign weapons of mass destruction, don't let the woking 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.120 gun be a mushroom cloud. Yeah, there's some of that, 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:41.920 but I mean it's what's interesting here is like there's 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.719 actually not really been a real effort to sell this, 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.280 and it's more like the physician Lyndon Johnson found himself 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:52.120 in where you know, like against I think Johnson's better judgment, 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.560 he was kind of like Railroad had been presented a 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.920 set of bad options where it's sold like you know, 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:58.720 you're you're either going to lose or you have to 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:02.520 send in another undred thousand troops, another two hundred thousand troops. 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:03.839 It was that sort of you. 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:07.280 Know, sinking into alcoholism situation where like you know, just 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.480 a little bit more, you're going to start feeling better. 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.440 And so now we're seeing like you know, like. 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.679 The calls for like sending the Marines to the Strait 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:15.959 of Hormuz and also Petexas. 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.079 Like we just think that another two hundred billion dollars. 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.000 Which is the cost of all of the Ukraine war stuff. 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.800 It's to this moment, it's a little more. It's actually 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.360 twenty billion dollars. I mean, who's counting when you get 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.880 into those numbers. But it's funny because I actually was 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.840 thinking about Vietnam too, and I was thinking about it 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:38.000 because there was that same kind I mean though that 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.959 said Vietnam was at least like there was we were 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.559 going to bring democracy, whereas we were going to end communism. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.960 Right there was an anti communist. 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.160 Yeah, there was an ideological restaurantal Yeah. 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:53.160 Wait, there is almost no ideological anything for this. 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:57.199 Right yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I mean I think Islamophobia. 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:58.640 I mean, yeah, well. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.839 They're we're trying to revive that has like you know 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.280 that obviously appeals to the MAGA account, but it doesn't 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:07.000 have a wider popular purchase. I mean, there hasn't been 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.280 a lot of very good justifications for the war. I mean, 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.720 I think in some ways it was sold to Trump. 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.760 To the Venezuela example, like you know, Venezuela went very well, 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:17.640 you know, and this is something Crup wants to be 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:19.760 doing stuff, And this is something a president can do, 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.640 is the domestic stuff, Carter. What we're increasingly seeing is 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.920 is the divergence of agendas. I mean, like Natanyao's agenda 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.040 is very clear, which is like he wants regime collapse 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.520 in Iran, which is not something that US wants, right 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:35.920 as other than that, something open the American allies want 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.000 in the abilities to earn Europe like that would be 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.400 like a serial level of catastrophe. 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:44.920 Yeah, it's interesting because clearly he was goaded into this 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.600 by Israel. Plus also perhaps you know, he had Wickoff 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:54.280 and Jared go in to negotiate, two people who are 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:59.200 unapologetically very Zionist and very close with Nan Yahu. So 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:03.319 you had negotiators who were a not skilled in negotiating, 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.160 be had a horse in this race when it comes 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:06.800 to Israel. 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.280 Yeah, and also I see like don't know anything about 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.960 the come up with so the people who actually like 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.560 know what around was offering were saying, like, wow, this 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:16.720 is actually like a good deal. 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:17.160 You know. 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.360 Jarrek Kistner's history at Woodcoff's knowledge of New York real 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.440 estate is not actually. 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.800 Translate to dollarge of nuclear negotiations. 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.640 And furthermore, they've actually like purged the State Department and 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.920 the government of like all the people who have any 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:34.600 knowledge of the region and could like be offering advice. 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.280 I mean, I think there's a lot of backers, and 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.800 you know, I did emphasize that in Yahoo. But I also, 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:41.640 you know, like in some ways that's been used as 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.160 an excuse by some of the MAGA people like Tucker 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.360 Carlston to say, you know, like well, you know this 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.920 Israeli trick to Trump, but you know, like Trump went 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.920 along with us, and it's worth asking like why he did. 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.240 And I think a lot of it was sugar high 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.400 he got out of Venezuela La, which I think now 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:57.640 in Yucker's back was. 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.640 Kind of done to convince him of this. 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:03.120 And it is like the way Rumsfield had conducted the 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:07.640 Afghan War like a light footprint, basically paying awful lot 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.080 of people so it looked like a quick, easy and 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:15.040 letting bin Laden run away loaded, so it looked like 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:16.160 a light, easy war. 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.480 That Junior was like, oh, wars aren't good and. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.680 Easy, right, I think that's a really good point. But 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:23.880 I want to go back to Vietnam for a minute, 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:29.840 because what happened with Vietnam is really I think worse 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:34.000 thinking about for a minute, because we had more that 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:35.680 we could not get out of. 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:37.600 Yeah, yeah, for. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.760 Pretty much, I mean president after president. One of the 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:44.560 things with Iran is that it's a huge country, right, 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:48.160 It makes a rock look like Rhode Island. So I 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.200 want you to talk about besides the twenty percent of 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:56.240 all liquid natural gap you know, LNG and oil and 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:00.160 fertilizer that go through the Strait, there's still also which 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.680 is a huge country, and if the regime fell, you 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.720 would have a refugee crisis, like you can't believe. 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.160 Yeah, I know, I know that's absolutely the case. 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.560 I mean, I mean there's two possible situations, both of 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.480 which are bad. Which is one is that they could 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:15.800 I think the more likely one is that actually the 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.840 regime won't fall, and this is apparently what the intelligence 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.160 community thinks, that it's actually quite a resilient regime. 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:23.640 I mean, I think one. 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:27.120 Thing is that it is not unlike you know, Saddam 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.720 Hussein's Iraq. It is not just a preserved personality cult 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.920 of a family, and it's retainers. It has an ideologic 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:38.120 and ideology and also a wide popular base. I mean 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.400 the Iranian Revolution, if you look at the ir GC, 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:43.960 you know, you're talking about like hundreds of thousands of 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.040 people and their families, which was like prepared for all this. 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.280 I mean like they knew, oh you know, because they've 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.760 had twenty five years of experience of this, the really 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:55.000 can kill their leaders and they had the dispersed leadership 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.960 and dispersed group. So but also like just as you 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.520 mentioned the terrain, it's like a vast be lots of mountains. 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.280 They have like done a lot of digging, there's a 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.600 lot of like the radio that it's like deep underground, 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:10.600 which again the Vietnam analogy, like you have a people 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.080 that are prepared for war, that are prepared to like 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:16.960 live underground to find dead. And the other aspect is 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:18.919 that the nature of war has changed. We've seen this 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:23.280 in Ukraine that grown technology gives us certain advantage over 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.760 American high tech, which we haven't really the American military 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.119 hasn't been able to grapple with and so so the 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.120 you know, there's actually quite a resilient and powerful regime. 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.439 So but that's actually the best case scenario around holds 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.760 and continues to to voke because yeah, I was thinking, 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.119 which is actually he thought, you know, we just need 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:42.800 to send in a few more marines and then this 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:44.879 whole thing will collapse. And the thing is, like, you know, 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:47.200 like their idea is first of all, they're they're they're 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:50.639 fostering they're allied with like groups that are very unpopular with. 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.560 The two big groups that the US has allied with 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:57.399 are the Family of the Shah, the monarchy, you know, 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.639 which is like you know, like exactly these people who 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:05.159 are like, you know, the real housewives of Los Angeles, right, yeah, 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:07.919 you haven't been in the country for forty years, and 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:11.080 are you know, not going to be popular. And then 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:14.000 also another group called the m K, which is like 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:17.639 a formerly Marxist cult with their own version of Islam, 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.119 which is like hugely hated in Iran as well. So 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.359 the Israeli strategy is to like use these outside group 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:25.000 to foment this and and. 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.760 To like foster civil war. Civil war. 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.520 Yes, and they think, you know, like as in Syria, 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.800 that this would actually be good for them, But I mean, 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.120 like I don't think it's actually good. We already saw 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:39.359 what Syria did like to the region, huge refugee crisis. Yeah, 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.400 it's and also like a state collapse of a state 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.960 that has a lot of weapons. I actually has like 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:49.400 nuclear material. People they're like they like, just like game 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:51.800 this out here, where this could go. There's a lot 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:53.000 of very bad directions. 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.480 Yes, And it's also just a huge country. You know, 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:57.760 it's like a third of America. I mean, it's these 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:01.080 is a lot of people to get going into a war. 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.680 What I want to talk about with you is the 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.639 censorship in the rest of the golf, because there is 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:12.160 this very interesting phenomenon happening in the golf where you 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:17.040 have all of these very modern Islamic states, right, you know, 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:19.760 we have the Emirates, we have Katar. We have countries 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:23.880 that are like what Lebanon was supposed to be. They 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.879 are fabulous countries. I mean, you couldn't have problems with 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:30.520 the way they were built or how they run because 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:34.520 they used slave labor, which is unacceptable. But they have 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:38.320 you know, hotels and casinos and people live there so 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.000 they don't have to pay taxes. And it's very European 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:43.479 and you know that was something that was not in 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:45.960 Go War one, Golf War two. We didn't have them. 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.119 We didn't you're you know, it wasn't all built up 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:52.240 like that. These countries have a lot of censorship. Yes, 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:55.439 So if you're a social media influencer, which like eighty 0:19:55.520 --> 0:20:01.040 percent of Dubai is, you can't necessarily share what you're seeing. 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:04.520 I want you to talk through what that means for 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:05.119 this moment. 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:07.919 Yeah, I mean, obviously there's a lot of censorship. 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:10.720 It does seem like there's a lot of reasons to 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:14.240 think that the Iranian has been actually like getting through 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:16.720 a lot of their drones and missilets and causing a 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:18.320 lot of damage. And if you just think about the 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.120 sort of social structure of these societies, as you said, 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:23.680 like there's kind of like a great places to be rich. 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.840 It is like, you know, like getting Beverly Hills as 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:31.080 you're being like, you know, the unit for war, right, 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.000 like let's organize the militia of Beverly Hills, you know, 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.800 like society or sociologically, you're talking about ten percent of 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:40.320 the population that are these Arab monarch you know, royal families, 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:43.800 another ten percent are the European tax cheats, eighty percent 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:48.000 are like indentured servants like the Philippies, in India, you know. 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:50.119 Like that's so like a warrior society. 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.760 Like I know a lot of what the US has 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.360 been trying to just encouraged these societies as the ones 0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:59.240 that are going to join in and in the war, 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.119 which is like I don't actually see it, and I 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:04.080 already want to see all sorts of like sort of 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:06.359 side effects, one of which is like these are you know, Katar, 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:08.800 we know had bribed Trump, but they're also had been 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:11.960 giving huge amounts of money to El Mousk Silicon Valley, 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:14.520 funding all the AI stuff. And now you're seeing a 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.080 lot of the AI people, but they're really worried, you know, 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:20.080