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Speaker 1: Welcome in an hour two it's a Friday. We're live

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Speaker 3: It's The Herd.

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Speaker 1: Ethan Strauss, How do you fix the NBA All Star Game?

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Speaker 1: How do you fix tanking? Coamingo Warriors story in about

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Speaker 1: three minutes. So Lebron last night became the oldest player

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Speaker 1: to ever have a triple double. And you know, through

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Speaker 1: the years, I told the story years ago. My wife

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Speaker 1: went to the doctor in Los Angeles and she doesn't

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Speaker 1: know sports or anything. So she sat down. But she

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Speaker 1: used to live in Chicago and now she does again.

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Speaker 1: And then she saw this guy and she's like, ah,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of familiar. It looks like a sport. Was

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Speaker 1: Phil Jackson, And so they started talking and she said

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Speaker 1: Phil was very nice and everything, and she said Phil

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Speaker 1: said at the end, tell your husband he's.

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Speaker 4: Wrong about Lebron and Michael and Jordan.

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Speaker 1: Because I've said before Lebron James does more things well

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Speaker 1: than any basketball player I've ever seen. I always felt

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Speaker 1: he was more Magic Johnson, where he really did love

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Speaker 1: initiating offense for other people. But he's a better athlete

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Speaker 1: than and a better defender than Magic Johnson. But I

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Speaker 1: think his game Kobe was more Michael. Lebron's more Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's got the power elements. He loves to

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Speaker 1: elevate others. He's fun. His sheer size, like Magic came

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Speaker 1: nobody knew how to defend a guard that was six

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Speaker 1: eight and a half. Lebron is still I've stood next

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Speaker 1: to Lebron two or three times. It was like a

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Speaker 1: pro football player. He looks like an NFL defensive end.

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Speaker 1: And last night is he really is remarkable. But when

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Speaker 1: I love John Elway, you know, I love certain acts.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see him straight to you know,

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Speaker 1: rental video, the old term in their movie career. I

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Speaker 1: want to see clean endings. I want to see, like

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Speaker 1: you know, Martin Scorsese, the direct director direct every three

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Speaker 4: The Irishman.

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Speaker 1: Spielberg still feels like he's in his prime, as Primes

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Speaker 1: lasted forever. Yeah, but it's like, you know, every couple

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Speaker 1: you really love people. I like nice, clean endings. I

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Speaker 1: don't want an Elvis ending or a Marlon Brando ending.

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Speaker 1: And so I think this should be Lebron's last year.

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Speaker 1: He's still like a top fifteen sixteen player. He still

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Speaker 1: Luca was the best player after that, and Luke ended

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Speaker 5: Been sorry at basketball. So yeah, I've been good ever

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Speaker 5: since I started playing it. Any given night like a

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Speaker 5: The fact that you can go out and be able

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Speaker 1: It's like, is Adam Silver the right guy. The tankings

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Speaker 1: And with that, Ethan Strauss, one of the best substacks

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Speaker 1: out there, House of Strauss, NBA Warriors and Culture podcasts,

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Speaker 1: I said about an hour ago with David Stern, you

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Speaker 1: like star players take advantage of Adam Silver. Do you

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Speaker 1: have a belief Ethan, on how to fix the tanking problem?

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Speaker 6: an NBA fan when it wasn't And sometimes the old

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Speaker 6: ways work better than some of these crazy, big brained

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Speaker 4: The NBA used to do it this way.

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Speaker 6: If you missed the playoffs, you had an equal chance

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Speaker 6: some people might say that's not fair. You know that

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Speaker 6: do on the one hand, on the other hand, right

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Speaker 6: on the one hand, maybe the worst team in the

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Speaker 6: On the other hand, we have what we have now,

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Speaker 6: say go back in time. The league made a mistake

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Speaker 6: that is the owners freaked out. That was objectively great

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Speaker 6: bigger playoff share to incentivize making the playoffs. You miss

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Speaker 6: the playoffs. Everybody's got the same long shot. Do it

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Speaker 6: that way, get rid of all this tanking the All

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Speaker 6: The only All Star game that's any good is baseball.

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Speaker 6: I do think we've moved into a time now. The

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Speaker 6: All Star Game in baseball was great because you didn't

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Speaker 6: was for years the NBA All Star Game. Listen, could

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Speaker 6: I say this the players they're so rich now they

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Speaker 6: just want time off. It's not solvable. Or do you

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Speaker 6: have a way to fix the NBA All Star Game.

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Speaker 6: I do have a way to fix the NBA All

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Speaker 4: And no, it's not Nick Wright's idea.

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Speaker 6: Our guy Nick writes idea to have the black guys

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Speaker 6: But that would be interesting. That would be interesting. I

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Speaker 6: guess the first thing I would say about it is this,

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Speaker 6: the NBA's general problem with Adam Silver is doing too much.

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Speaker 4: It's doing too much the NBA.

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Speaker 6: It's like a celebrity that gets so many plastic surgeries,

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Speaker 6: All Star Game is stop with all the crazy reforms.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know what this thing is right now.

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Speaker 4: Where there's a round robin.

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Speaker 6: You know, before they had the players pick the guys,

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Speaker 4: Here's a crazy idea.

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Speaker 6: You get the most popular players from the Eastern Conference

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Speaker 6: It's something that makes sense to my dad. It's something

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Speaker 6: I can explain to my son, Well, how do you

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Speaker 6: get them to try hard? That's the thing everybody's thinking

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Speaker 6: about right now. You hear about money. The All Star

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Speaker 6: Game is not about money, It's about status. What I

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Speaker 6: is he chooses the players. He makes the selection based

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Speaker 4: But they care about being an All Star.

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Speaker 6: They care about having that designation, and when Hall of

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Speaker 6: So if you have a little bit of that incentive

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Speaker 1: Fifty feet away. That's what I would do. Always have

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Speaker 1: great ideas. Okay, so you know, I mean, you really

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Speaker 1: covered the Warriors forever. You wrote a book about it,

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Speaker 1: The Victory Machine, The Making and Unmaking of the Warriors Dynasty.

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Speaker 1: I've always felt you should love your kids like your

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Speaker 1: And the truth is young players can't play with current

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry's offense. It hasn't worked. And now they're old

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Speaker 1: Kaminga story is one and I talked about this two

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Speaker 1: days ago. I was never I've never been a G

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Speaker 1: League fan, especially G League ignite. Scoot Henderson, Jalen Jalen

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Speaker 1: none of that. There's never been a great player from

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Speaker 1: college basketball shouldn't be demonized. That being said, clearly, Kaminga,

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Speaker 4: He's in the doghouse. What do you make of it?

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Speaker 1: They all say nice stuff, Curse has nice stuff on

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Speaker 6: Do you believe? Okay, So when you started with the

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Speaker 1: House of Strauss is probably my favorite podcast I listened

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Speaker 6: I believe the story is kind of run out, and

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Speaker 1: And I don't think baseball should have a salary cap. Mets, Cub, Astros, Dodgers, Podres,

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Speaker 1: And for the fans. Ethan Strauss. He does such a

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Speaker 4: Oh great, senior, Colin love being here.

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Speaker 1: All right, Ethan Strauss. Who if I'm going to go

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Speaker 1: the baseball thing pitchers catchers report this week Dodgers today

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Speaker 1: The Astros, if they're healthy, will be in small market

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Speaker 1: Cleveland and small market Seattle, though though I don't think

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Speaker 1: of Seattle a small market. We're excellent last year, and

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong on this one. In Baltimore really good.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody looks at well, what about Saint Louis, Well,

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Speaker 1: the economy in Saint Louis has died.

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Speaker 4: Is that LA's fault.

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Speaker 1: You don't build leagues to protect the bottom eight teams.

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Speaker 1: You should build teams for the middle class and above.

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Speaker 1: And like networks, ESPN and Fox have no responsibility or

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Speaker 1: NBC to air the bottom twelve teams. The television ratings

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Speaker 1: are up nationally. Why because you're airing these really stacked,

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Speaker 1: excellent teams. So, for the record, Milwaukee was great last year,

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Speaker 1: Seattle was great last year, Cleveland was great. Last year,

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Speaker 1: Big market DC wasn't. The Mets underwhelmed. So it's and

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Speaker 1: there's also, as Ethan said, there's so much randomness in baseball.

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Speaker 1: Dodgers couldn't keep pitchers healthy for two years, and if

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Speaker 1: not for Dave Johnson in one of the craziest games

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Speaker 1: evers ever, pulling every right lever I mean substituting, you know,

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Speaker 1: an infielder who hadn't been hitting. Dave Roberts excuse me,

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Speaker 1: I mean literally, Dave Roberts pulled every stink and lever

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Speaker 1: in Game seven, and they all just.

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Speaker 4: Happened to work. There was a randomness to it.

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Speaker 1: That's why the Dodgers were the World Series because and

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Speaker 1: I think if Dodger fans were truly honest, the more

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Speaker 1: consistent team at the plate was Toronto. I mean, for

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Speaker 1: a lot of that series, I felt Toronto was the

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Speaker 1: better team. When I had runners on or big spots

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Speaker 1: at the plate, I trusted Toronto's bats more than I

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Speaker 1: did the Dodgers. And it just so happens the randomness

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome that Julian Edelman is going to be

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Speaker 1: joining us last hour here on a Friday. It is

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day tomorrow, so I will have I'll play matchmaker.

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Speaker 1: I'm cupid cowherd around here, so I'm gonna play match

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Speaker 1: maker before the end of the hour on NFL team

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Speaker 1: looking for quarterbacks and the current available quarterbacks. I think

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Speaker 1: the mac Jones situation with the Niners is fascinating. I

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Speaker 1: think to myself, if I'm the Colts, do I want

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Speaker 1: to go after mac Jones? But the Colts gave up

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Speaker 1: two first for Sauce Gardner, and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: give up more draft capital when I may need to

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Speaker 1: get another quarterback in next year's draft. So I'm going

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Speaker 1: to give you the teams looking for a quarterback and

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Speaker 1: some of the quarterbacks I think would fit with the team.

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Speaker 1: What would I do as the matchmaker between quarterback and team?

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Speaker 1: The Steelers are an interesting one, the Vikings, the Colts,

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Speaker 1: the Jets, the Browns, the Cardinals, the Dolphins. I think

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Speaker 1: there's a way to go about this with an eye

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Speaker 1: on the future in most cases.

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Speaker 4: Here is John Middlecoff with the.

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Speaker 3: News on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the herd Line News.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Colin.

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Speaker 8: With free agency right around the corner, get ready to

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Speaker 8: hear a lot about AJ Brown.

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Speaker 3: And his trade status.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: He obviously let his frustrations be known all season, and

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Speaker 8: a recent report indicates that Philly will entertain a trade

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Speaker 8: offer for the three time Pro bowler. And Jason Kelsey

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Speaker 8: even spoke to Brown's frustration and how he can be

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Speaker 8: a detriment to the offense.

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Speaker 9: I think there's got to be a reason that Aj

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Speaker 9: is well liked in the building by coaches and players.

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Speaker 9: He's well respected. I think part of it is that

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Speaker 9: he's a great player, and you know, teammates want him

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Speaker 9: there and know that he can be a dominating force

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Speaker 9: for them. But you know, those frustrations. He's just the

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Speaker 9: unfortunate player who allows his internal frustrations to manifest into

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Speaker 9: his play, and it makes him play worse, It makes

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Speaker 9: the offense worse, and it makes his energy worse.

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Speaker 4: No, I think that's a good way to put it.

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Speaker 1: Like some guys can contain it, to compartmentalize it. AJ

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Speaker 1: Brown's probably not that guy, you know, I.

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Speaker 4: Think I guess I would ask you this.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a chance the Eagles unravel this year

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Last year, we didn't know they weren't

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Speaker 1: gonna win until they didn't win, because they would have

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Speaker 1: these halves of football and they kept winning a lot

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Speaker 1: of close games. I kind of think it's gonna unravel

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Speaker 1: this year. Sirianni hurts AJ Brown, and they'll be moves,

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Speaker 1: do you well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, unraveled.

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Speaker 8: Because the GM's so good, they'll be talented, but they

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Speaker 8: got a lot of question marks.

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Speaker 3: AJ Brown's gone. He's gonna be traded here in a

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 8: Unofficially, AJ Brown will not be back on the team.

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Speaker 8: Lane Johnson reports he might retire. Landon Dickerson pro bowler

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Speaker 8: might retire. Did you see the guy they hired to

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Speaker 8: be their offensive coordinator? He's never called plays, so this

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Speaker 8: is not one of those. You know, Kellen Moore had

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Speaker 8: been a play caller for a long time in Dallas, right,

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Speaker 8: Shane Stiken was a rising star. Philip Rivers was telling

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Speaker 8: everyone that would listen that years ago. You know, you go,

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Speaker 8: Sean Manning this new quarterback or I mean new coordinator.

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Speaker 8: You just never know. We saw with Brian Johnson, we

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Speaker 8: saw last year with Kevin Patola, who's Sirianni's guy. I

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Speaker 8: think the AJ Brown situation to me, you know, he

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Speaker 8: makes thirty two million dollars, Colin, look at the drafts.

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Speaker 8: You could find a guy for a million bucks and

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Speaker 8: gave me seventy five catches A j last year has

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Speaker 8: seventy eight catches, so I'm gonna trade. You know, people

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Speaker 8: are the Patriots. Patriots are gonna trade their second round pick.

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Speaker 8: They just made it a Super Bowl for a guy

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Speaker 8: making thirty two million dollars. I'd be stunned, you know.

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Speaker 8: I think his value and I'm pro aj Brown. He's

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Speaker 8: a very talented player. I think his value, though, is

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Speaker 8: going to shock people when who they have one of

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Speaker 8: the best gms. He's great at making trades, but I

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Speaker 8: don't think it's gonna be easy for him just to

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Speaker 8: get like, you know, pick forty for AJ Brown.

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Speaker 3: I think those days have passed interesting, you know.

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Speaker 8: Speaking of troublesome wide receivers, George Pickens, he obviously had

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Speaker 8: a great first year in Dallas.

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Speaker 3: But he already could be on his way out.

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Speaker 8: Reports indicate the Cowboys expected to franchise him this offseason.

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Speaker 8: They could then return, turn around and trade him for

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Speaker 8: a second round pick.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, Colin. I don't see any

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Speaker 3: team in the.

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Speaker 8: League trading if they franchised twenty eight million dollars and

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Speaker 8: then trading Jerry a second round pick, I don't see

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Speaker 8: that one happening.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think we know the one position where college

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Speaker 1: players can come right in and have immediate impact as

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. I think Dak has shown an ability to

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Speaker 1: work with Amari Cooper and Ceedee Lamb and tight ends.

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Speaker 1: I think Dak. I think they've got Ryan Floornoy is

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Speaker 1: an interesting player. I think Ceedee Lamb's an absolute legit

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Speaker 1: number one. I think they're going to draft fairly early

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Speaker 1: at tight end. I just I wouldn't do it, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think what happens sometimes Jerry the GM and I

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Speaker 1: think this happens in all businesses. You make choices to

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Speaker 1: validate earlier decisions. And they gave up a third I

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Speaker 1: think did they give up a thirty fifth? Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it's like, okay, now they feel like they have to

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Speaker 1: sign him, and and I get that. So that's you know,

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Speaker 1: they're they're going to validate their earlier decision and pay him.

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Speaker 1: But I've got two examples last year for a stretch

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Speaker 1: in Dallas and at Pittsburgh, and for the record, there

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Speaker 1: were red flags out of Georgia that he can be

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Speaker 1: a bit disruptive. So I thought he had a great year,

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Speaker 1: but I would struggle to pay him big money.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the Cowboys are probably committed on this

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Speaker 8: Jared's proven. You know, Micah Parsons is kind of the

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Speaker 8: outlier situation where he pivoted. I think they'll go all

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Speaker 8: in that. You know, they're paying dact big money. Listen,

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Speaker 8: if they can keep him on the straight and arrow,

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Speaker 8: there is no uh, it'd be hard to argue that

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Speaker 8: their offense wouldn't have a chance to be one of

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Speaker 8: the best in the league if George is playing well. Okay,

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Speaker 8: Colin last, but not least, the Rams and the Seahawks.

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Speaker 8: They went head to head three times last season, played

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Speaker 8: some great games, and the Seahawks obviously went on to

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Speaker 8: win it all.

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Speaker 3: But Jared Verse spoke to how he feels about their

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Speaker 3: rivals up North.

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Speaker 10: I genuinely like, I don't like them. I'd like, I

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Speaker 10: got like a disdain in my heart for them, like

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Speaker 10: I hate them, Like I don't like the Seahawks, Like

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Speaker 10: there's nothing I like about them. I don't like their players,

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Speaker 10: there's nobody I like about their stat I don't like them.

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Speaker 1: I think that's incredibly realistic and healthy, and I'm glad

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Speaker 1: that he I'm glad he went out there, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's I think that for the next year or

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Speaker 1: two will probably be the best rivalry in the sport.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know what's funny, Colin is forever is the

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Speaker 8: Steelers against the Ravens. Yes, and then some of the

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Speaker 8: NFC East, you know with the Eagles and the Giants

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Speaker 8: and the Cowboys. Over the years, you could argue the

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Speaker 8: three teams in the NFC West, I mean, the Niners

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Speaker 8: of Seattle have been rivals since Harbon Peete got there.

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Speaker 8: Now Seattle with Mike McDonald going at this defensive mind

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Speaker 8: going up against McVay and Shanahan, you kind of have

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Speaker 8: a three way rivalry because the Niners don't like Seattle

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Speaker 8: or LA LA doesn't like San Francisco, and now them

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Speaker 8: and Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Are at each other.

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Speaker 8: Odds, it doesn't even matter that the Cardinals aren't that good.

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Speaker 3: You got those three teams that are three of the

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Speaker 3: better teams in the league.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting about I mean you just go to like

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Speaker 1: a replay here or a replay there, and the Rams

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Speaker 1: were in the Super Bowl and they would have beaten

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Speaker 1: New England or the Seahawks, like the Seahawks Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: That's a really really good team. But you go back

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Speaker 1: to those Ram games and Matt Stafford multiple times walked

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Speaker 1: up and down the field against the Seahawks defense, and

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Speaker 1: so I kind of feel like like everybody else did that.

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Speaker 1: As great as the Seahawks team is and the story is,

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Speaker 1: the reality is it could have just as easily. If

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Speaker 1: you don't get this replay overturned or this call, it

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Speaker 1: could have been a Ram Super Bowl. There is such

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Speaker 1: a thin line between what Seattle and the Rams and

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Speaker 1: the Niners produced. Niners had really unforeseen injuries, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: I would argue that the Rashid Shaheed, the special teams

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Speaker 1: for Seattle eventually sort of catapults them slightly ahead of

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Speaker 1: the Rams.

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Speaker 4: That's about it, Colin.

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Speaker 8: Even the Rams winning the Super Bowl this year, which

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Speaker 8: was on the table, what about last year when they

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Speaker 8: were a couple of plays away from beating the Eagles,

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Speaker 8: Then they would have played the Commanders, who they would

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Speaker 8: have killed. They would have had a one game situation

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Speaker 8: against a pretty flawed Chiefs team.

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Speaker 3: So mcveigh's probably lost some sleep the last couple of

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Speaker 3: years knowing he could have a couple more rings.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: John Middlecoff with the New Well.

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Speaker 2: That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd

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Speaker 2: Line News.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Julian Edelman Last Hour, Ethan Strauss This Hour.

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Speaker 1: It's this has always been an interesting week. This week

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Speaker 1: and next week have always been really interesting weeks to

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Speaker 1: be a talk show host because this wildly popular sport.

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Speaker 1: It's probably like the week after the Stanley Cup in

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Speaker 1: Canada or the week after like the English Premier League.

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Speaker 1: You know the championship has been settled, you get this

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Speaker 1: sort of oh, everybody takes a deep breath, and we

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Speaker 1: all kind of beat up on the NBA here for

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Speaker 1: about a week before it goes into the All Star Game.

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Speaker 1: Ethan Strauss, I thought was really good on it is.

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Speaker 1: I do think the playoffs will be excellent. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and the money the NBA made with their last deal

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Speaker 1: is substantial. But I think the NBA should not look

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Speaker 1: at the NFL. I think the NBA should look at baseball.

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Speaker 1: And baseball's had a two and a half three year

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Speaker 1: renaissance because of tweaks, and I contend it's too repetitive.

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Speaker 1: There's too many threes.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: My feeling on that, I would take the three point

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Speaker 1: arc and move it into the bench. I would not

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Speaker 1: allow these corner threes. It would force players to defend

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Speaker 1: the three ball more from the arc. Centers would still

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Speaker 1: be would not have to leave the circle. Therefore there'd

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Speaker 1: be more collisions at the rim, more physicality. It would

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Speaker 1: be harder to get open threes on the arc, and

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Speaker 1: it would become more of a situational get a bucket,

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Speaker 1: get a stop league, which I think the playoffs become.

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Speaker 1: And it's much better to watch playoff basketball than regular

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Speaker 1: season three point shooting contests. Also, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: exactly to do with the tanking. Ethan Strauss had his opinion,

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Speaker 1: but I do think the NBA is making a lot

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Speaker 1: of money and the playoffs are really really exciting. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about shortening the league. I mean they're playing

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Speaker 1: two games a week. I think it's fine. Oh what

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Speaker 1: about all the injuries. I think they could play through

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Speaker 1: a lot of these injuries. I do, I really do.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of this stuff is sort of

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Speaker 1: managing for the postseason where the game gets more physical.

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Speaker 1: But I think the NBA, between the money, between their

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Speaker 1: social relevance and between playoff basketball, I think it's fine.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the trajectory though going forward is as

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Speaker 1: promising as baseball. It's not as popular as the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and I just read a Pete Tamil story this morning

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Speaker 1: about college football potentially expanding the playoff in college football

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Speaker 1: the twenty four teams, which would make the committee much

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Speaker 1: less relevant, which I would like. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I like twenty four teams, but I feel like baseball's

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Speaker 1: moving up, NFL's moving up. College basketball ratings have been great,

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Speaker 1: College football ratings were great. I don't know if the

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Speaker 1: NBA's in that space. They got their money, they got

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Speaker 1: their bag. Doesn't feel like it's as tight as it

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Speaker 1: needs to be.

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Speaker 4: There's just too many lingering issues here. Stupid Cowherd.

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Speaker 1: I'll be a matchmaker quarterbacks that are available and teams

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Speaker 1: that need them.

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Speaker 4: That is next.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and neon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 8: App Fox College Hoops Friday is Tom Izzo's tenth rated

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Speaker 8: Michigan State squad taking on Nick Boyd in Wisconsin tonight

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Speaker 8: at eight eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: As many of you know, I am a hopeless romantic.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play. Valentine's Day is tomorrow. I'm gonna play

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Speaker 1: matchmaker teams that need a quarterback and quarterbacks who are available.

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Speaker 4: John, set me up. Here we go on the eve

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Speaker 4: of Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Colin, who are you pairing with Kevin O'Connell and

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Speaker 8: the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Vikings are ready to win now with their personnel.

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Speaker 1: I would go get Aaron Rodgers. Aaron, will you be

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Speaker 1: my schoolmate? I think it works. First of all, all

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy's going into year three. It is beyond durability issues.

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Speaker 1: It's little stuff, it's big stuff. You can't depend on him.

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Speaker 1: You got Justin Jefferson, an elite left tackle. Minnesota's got

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Speaker 1: good players, an excellent head coach. Minnesota's got an elite

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. By the way, Chicago's getting better, Green Bays better,

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Speaker 1: the Lions solved their offensive coordinator issues. You could be

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Speaker 1: in fourth place very quickly with another JJ McCarthy injury.

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Speaker 4: I'd go get.

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Speaker 8: Aaron Okay, Colin, new GM, new coach, who are repairing

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Speaker 8: with the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: I would retain. I would stay with Tua for one

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Speaker 1: more year. He's under contract. Nobody's gonna buy it out.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of fantastic, right for a year. He's got

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Speaker 1: he's got an out after next season. The Dolphins can

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Speaker 1: go big game hunting in a year. But John, he's

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Speaker 1: good enough to win games.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: There's limitations on the market he has. There's a new GM.

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Speaker 1: There's no reason to commit unless you could get a

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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza. There's no real reason that Stephen Ross in

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Speaker 1: this organization could commit. They have some roster rebuilding to

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Speaker 1: do before they worry about the quarterback. To is expensive,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have a market. I'd stay with him.

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Speaker 8: Okay, we have a new sheriff in town. Who are

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Speaker 8: we pairing with the Steelers?

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Speaker 1: Okay, this one makes sense to me. I would go

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Speaker 1: get Malik Willis. Okay, McCarthy has a connection to Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: He's going to have intel. Also, the Steelers need to

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Speaker 1: get younger and more athletic.

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Speaker 4: Molik Willis.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are people in the building and people

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Speaker 1: out of the building that are saying he's better than

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love. I don't think so, but he is electric.

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Speaker 1: He played very well in Green Bay. McCarthy has a

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Speaker 1: history of getting the best out of quarterbacks despite the

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Speaker 1: criticism he gets. He's got that connection. I mean, let's

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Speaker 1: face it with Aaron. Aaron did the best job possible.

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Speaker 1: But do you really think Aaron and Mike McCarthy, I

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Speaker 1: mean McCarthy's went and hired a new staff. One of

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Speaker 1: them doesn't really see eye to eye with Aaron. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel like an ideal fit. I think Malik Willis

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Speaker 1: works for me.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Colin, this could be a team fresh off of

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Speaker 8: divorce looking for love who repairing with the Cardinals?

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I think Kyler Murray has served his time. There's not

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Speaker 1: a good vibe with ownership and Kyler Murray. I like him,

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Speaker 1: I'm in the minority. I would move him out and

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Speaker 1: eat his contract. I would go do what Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: and the Denver Broncos did. I would eat the contract.

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Speaker 1: They just wanted Russell Wilson out of the building. We're

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Speaker 1: going to reach a little bit on bow Nicks. It

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Speaker 1: was viewed as a reach by many in the league.

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Speaker 1: I would not take Ty Simpson from Bama at three.

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Speaker 1: I would trade down to ten, eleven, twelve. I'm much

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Speaker 1: more comfortable if I can accumulate more picks. Okay, if

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Speaker 1: I can get a fourth or a fifth and move

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Speaker 1: down from three to ten or twelve, then I'll reach

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Speaker 1: on Ty Simpson. And for the record, you got a

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Speaker 1: young offensive coach to webe Brissette. He may not be

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Speaker 1: able to beat him out, but you'll know in a

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Speaker 1: year from practice and some play whether you should go

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Speaker 1: for another quarterback or.

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Speaker 4: Keep the kid.

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Speaker 1: But if you think he's got the ability to be

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Speaker 1: your starter, get him in house. Former Rams assistant, work

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Speaker 1: on him for a year.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 1: It's not a great situation, but I do think occasionally

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Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray, and this has happened before.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just time the locker room needs to

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Speaker 1: be cleared. You eat the contract to Kyler for a year.

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Speaker 8: Well, this is a team that once got famously left

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Speaker 8: at the altar right before the start of the season.

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Speaker 8: They've been looking for love ever since. Colin, who are

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Speaker 8: you pairing with the Colts?

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Speaker 1: I think Riley Leonard let him play for a year.

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Speaker 1: I liked him more than most people out of Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: He had one start last year. The Texans rested a

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Speaker 1: lot of starters. Shane Steichen will get the most out

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Speaker 1: of anybody.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: They gave up first round picks for Sauce Gardner, so

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be giving up picks to move up play

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Speaker 1: the kid. I don't want to commit long term to

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, who with the Jets. I would take Greg

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Speaker 1: Nessmeyer LSU quarterback in the second round. Not because I

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Speaker 1: think he's going to be amazing, but Justin Fields gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be a terrible team. Whether he's

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Speaker 1: a starter or a backup. I think he's absolutely at

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Speaker 1: some point at least a spot starter or a bridge starter.

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Speaker 1: I'd get him in the building.

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Speaker 3: Well, Cleveland ever find a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me be a matchmaker here. I Shade or

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Speaker 1: do love having you as a friend. I would keep

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Speaker 1: Shador Sanders. Why not they they're still stuck with the

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Speaker 1: Shawn Watson's contract. I think he's entertaining merch sales interest.

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Speaker 1: I like watching him play. I'd give him another year.

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Speaker 1: You're not a title team anyway. Strongest opinion on my

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Speaker 1: match mate.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think you left out a name. Derek Carr.

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Speaker 8: Rumors have been circulating about him making comeback. I think

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Speaker 8: he makes sense Minnesota, Indianapolis, two Dome teams. I mean

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Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers. There's no guarantee. He might just stay in Malibu,

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Speaker 8: Colin work the Beaches. Derek Carr, Shanstike, and Kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 8: I think he'd be an upgrade for both franchises. Inside

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Speaker 8: makes some sense to me.

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Speaker 4: Good stuff.

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, We had to hour number three on a Friday.

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Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, the three time Super Bowl chant, will stop

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Speaker 1: by Chicago's where we're at.

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Speaker 4: It's the Herd.