1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Can't find AM six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We are on every 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: a from three until six, no matter how bad it gets, 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: and after six o'clock whatever you missed to go to 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app for John Cobelt Show on demand. That's 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: the podcast and that's where you catch up our number 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: one three o'clock hour. We talked a lot about an 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: investigation that Christopher Ruffo is doing, the investigative journalist, and 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: he found a lot of detail about the tens of 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: billions of dollars that fraudsters stole from in unemployment insurance claims. 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: It's pretty staggering. I mean, Romanian gangs overseas. A lot 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: of this was new information and it looks like between 13 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: over payments or improper payments and outright stolen money, eighty 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: billion dollars eighty billion dollars in tax money went down 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: the toilet, and Gavin Newsom knew it was happening and 16 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: was told that you needed guardrails for this system, and 17 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: he never did it. What's astonishing is he doesn't care 18 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: and he gets away with it. Now listen to this. 19 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: This is also from Christopher Rufo. Multiple officials in the 20 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: federal government, senior health and Human services officials estimate that 21 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: under Gavin Newsom, California's state medicaid program has lost twenty 22 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: five percent of its budget to fraud. It is losing 23 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: fifty billion dollars. That's five oh fifty billion dollars a 24 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: year to scammers, fraudsters, and organized crime rings. This is 25 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: different than the tens of billions of dollars from the 26 00:01:53,960 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: unemployment insurance program. This is fifty billion every year. Now 27 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: he has been governor for seven and a half years, 28 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: so we're talking hundreds of billions of dollars. Experts who 29 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: studied the medicaid system say it's long been rife with fraud. 30 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: This is what Rufo is writing. Malcolm Sparrow is a 31 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 1: Harvard professor and he's advised the federal government on fraud, 32 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: and he thinks the fraud might represent ten to twenty 33 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: percent of Medicaid spending. Brian Blaze, as president of a 34 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: non partisan organization paragon ELF, estimates a fraud ray of 35 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty percent across the entire program. Another estimate 36 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: is California's fraud ray is twenty percent, which he says 37 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: is very conservative. But federal officials say medical fraud ray 38 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: is even higher. And that is the the healthcare system 39 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: for the poor. Oh, and that's the healthcare system that 40 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: pays every illegal aliens medical bills. We give full medical 41 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: coverage to all legal aliens from birth to death. How 42 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: much fraud do you think is in that? So they 43 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: think it's much higher. This roof All writes for the 44 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: City Journal. So you can notice the City Journal online 45 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: and read about all this. And based on the best guess, 46 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: medical has lost since twenty nineteen, one hundred and forty 47 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: six billion dollars in taxpayer funds to fraud on Gavin 48 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: Newsom's watch. Isn't that? I mean, that is just I 49 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: know the number is so big that people can't wrap 50 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: their minds around it. When numbers get too big, like 51 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: the human brain can't handle it. But that is about 52 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: half of our annual total state budget just on medicare 53 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: Medicaid fraud, and much of the medicaid is now for 54 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: illegal alience. And you go to work, I think everybody 55 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: should look on You know a lot of people get 56 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: paced ubs, a lot of people are paid automatically direct deposit, 57 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: and I don't know that people look at their paychecks 58 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: as closely as they used to. Should stare at that 59 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: box every two weeks and look at the money that's 60 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: been been deducted and know that it's going to criminals 61 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: from around the world, and know that the people that 62 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: you elected for office and that you're paying their salaries, 63 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: they know what's going on and they don't care. I mean, 64 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: I mean we must have had this has been going 65 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: on for several months now. Almost every day we have 66 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: these stories and they're all about California, and they come 67 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: and they go, and nobody in government responds nobody, and 68 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: nobody has any hope that this regime is going to 69 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: get overthrown. Well, maybe Steve Hilton does and Chad Bianco does, 70 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: because what will we need here? You know, I tell you, though, 71 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: so many people are so stubborn and so dense. You 72 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: can tell him all that and they just stare at you. 73 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: Goes back to my cult theory. One of the UH, 74 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: one of the guys running for governor, Eric Swalwell UH 75 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: the California posted an editorial, Oh that they wrote today 76 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: what I was talking about yesterday? You know, he's he's 77 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: was somehow involved with this Chinese spy, Christine Fang, to 78 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: call her Fang Fang. Now she's uh since reported herself 79 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: to China, but a lot of people think he had 80 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: an affair and she was a Chinese spy and she 81 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: did infiltrated. Other politicians had some kind of relationship with Swallowell, 82 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: but don't know for sure how far. And now the 83 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: FBI is threatening to release the files for the investigation 84 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: because they never charged him with anything, but they do 85 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: have a lot of files, and Swallwell is having a 86 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: fit trying to get the Department of Justice not to 87 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: release these files. Except he was the loudest guy in 88 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: the world demanding that the Epstein files be released, especially 89 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: if there was anything on Trump, and everybody said, you know, 90 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: well there's nothing on Trump in here, and it goes 91 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if there's nothing on him, and then 92 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: why not release everything. Well, now the tables have been 93 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: turned on this bozo because every you know, we ought 94 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: to know what he was doing with Fang Fang, the 95 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: Chinese spy, Fang Fang not making up that's her name, nickname, 96 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: and so all of a sudden, now he wants he 97 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: wants these this file release blocked and people are going, well, 98 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: if you didn't do anything wrong, then what do you care? 99 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: Pathetic hypocrites? All right, when we come back, crooks are 100 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: stealing the copper wire. So there are neighborhoods in Van 101 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: Nuys that have no Internet and they have no street 102 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: lights because they're just ripping the copper wire right out 103 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: of the ground. And we'll have a report from the 104 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: Fox eleven and Matthew seedor. 105 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 106 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: six forty. 107 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: Moistline eight seven seven moist eighty six. Well we gave 108 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: you plenty just today eight seven seven moist eighty six, 109 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: who use the talkback feature in the iHeartRadio app, and 110 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: on Friday we play it back twice in the five 111 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: o'clock hour at five twenty and five point fifty. This 112 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: copper wire thing just never stopped in Los Angeles. There's 113 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: it's absolutely lawless, and they are now tearing out some 114 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: underground copper wires that there are residents in Van Nys 115 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: who have no Internet service and no street lighting. So 116 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: we're in there. They're in the dark and they can't 117 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: go on the internet because they never get stopped. They 118 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: never get put in jail. They suffer no consequences, so 119 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: they're they're tearing the copper wire out of the ground. 120 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: Here is Fox eleven reporter Matthew Seedorf. 121 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: Copper wire crooks strike again, this time around three am 122 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: and van NY's one man wearing a hoodie, the other 123 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: shirtless with a medical mask, surgically removing wires. 124 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: It was loud, and then I was like, oh, the 125 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: people have been didn't copper because I want these streets. 126 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: Candie Savantes heard the action and started her video shows 127 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: the shirtless suspect pulling Internet cables from underground while his 128 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: partner stands watch near the getaway car man. 129 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 4: He even took a long black cable tied it to 130 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 4: his car, and they were trying to like really take 131 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 4: out as much as they could. 132 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 3: This section of Vani is plagued by thieves targeting copper wire. 133 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: Also above ground. 134 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 3: Block after block ripped lines connecting to street lights left 135 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: in the dark. The thieves didn't seem worried about getting car. 136 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it's probably so rampid right now. 137 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: At and Ts grew from northern California here trying to 138 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: restore service. 139 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: Is that happening a lot oh yeah, yeah. 140 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: Across LA the numbers are staggering, roughly thirty two thousand 141 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: street light repair request how active, mostly tied to copper theft. 142 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: Mayor Karen Bass last week approved plans to replace those 143 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: lights with solar ones. 144 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 4: Wait, what's the point of stealing that? 145 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: To make money? So they go and sell it? But 146 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: they get you guys about. 147 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 3: And w vieh some unaware, not worried that the thieves 148 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: on their block haven't been caught. 149 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 4: I'm so angry. 150 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 3: Well, major portions of the neighborhood are now dark and 151 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: without internet. 152 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 4: It's annoying. It's for shitting. 153 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: They make them by your major I mean it's not 154 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: the prettiest, but they don't make it any better for sure. 155 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: She estimates that the crooks were here about fifty minutes, 156 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 3: while it took police an hour to get here. 157 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: So far, no arrest having made. I don't know if 158 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: you noticed, but Matthew Seedorf said there are thirty two 159 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: thousand street lights out in the city of Los Angeles, 160 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: thirty two thousand, and he said that most of them 161 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: are because of the copper wires being torn out every day. 162 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: They're destroying another piece of the city. Another piece of 163 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: the infrastructure. And these people suddenly are living in the 164 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: dark and their screens are dark. The Internet's god, and 165 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: they don't know that it's their votes. This is what 166 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: you get. You got Karen Bass defunded the police. You've 167 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: got the legislature which basically wiped out the criminal code. 168 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: So these people aren't arrested. If they're arrested, they don't 169 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: go to jail, or they're out very quickly, and they 170 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: go back and they steal more because the copper makes 171 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: them a lot of money, So why would they stop. 172 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: Nothing bad is happening to them. Look at the society 173 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: that the progressives have created. I get everything. You drive 174 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: home from work, over all the potholes on the freeway 175 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: and the roadways, and you get to your neighborhood and 176 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: it's pitched black, and you go in the house and 177 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: there's no internet. You can't watch anything, can't watch any 178 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: of the streamers, no movies tonight, no TV shows, nothing, 179 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: no internet, can't go on your laptop, no internet, no lights. 180 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: They still they stole copper for thirty two thousand street lights. 181 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: One of the women in the neighborhood, Candae Servantes, she 182 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: took a video of it. One of the thieves was shirtless, 183 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: wearing a mask, the others wearing a hoodie. What is this? 184 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: These are animals, they're to be locked up in cages. 185 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: They're wearing masks, hoodies. Servanti said. The guy took a 186 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: long black cable tied it to his car, and so 187 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: they had a long black cable tied to the car 188 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: and they were yankee the wire out from underground. They 189 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: were trying to pull out as much wire as they 190 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: could from underground. I guess with the car, like somebody 191 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: was driving the car with the wire attached to the 192 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: back and they're just pulling it and pulling it and 193 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: pulling it. Police responded slowly and didn't and and the 194 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: thieves didn't seem to worry about being caught because it 195 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: took them over an hour. They did this between three 196 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: and four a m. No. Police, they took their The 197 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: thieves take their time because again, even if they get caught, 198 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: what's the penalty? 199 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: This is. 200 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: Says here they're stealing copper wire from the little league fields. 201 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember when my when my sons were 202 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: in a little league the uh there used to be 203 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: homeless people living out in right field there was like 204 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: a homeless encamp in right field, and they had lights, 205 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: and they had a television. They had plugged in to 206 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: the same electrical grid that the Little League field used 207 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: for the overhead the overhead stadium lights. And so they 208 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: just camped out in right field or maybe beyond the 209 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: right field fence, watching TV. AT and T told Fox 210 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: eleven that cruise from northern California have been brought in 211 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: because some people are without service for four or five months. 212 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: Four or five months. This is Karen Passes, Los Angeles. 213 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: I can't believe. It is in total free fall, a 214 00:14:54,840 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: complete collapse. It's just and there's also another story here, 215 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: and there's been a lot of these stories, but just 216 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: so you know, nothing's changing in Altadena. The accounty government 217 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: is in complete free fall. The average permit time to 218 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: rebuild a home in Altadena is now one hundred and 219 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: fifty five days. That's over five months. So you want 220 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: to rebuild your house after the fire five months. They 221 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: have a one stop permit center, but it doesn't seem 222 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: to matter. You have one stop and it's the same delays. 223 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: And like this one woman named Beatris Coca, like she 224 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: doesn't know anything about building a house, she said, and 225 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: she would drop in daily to the permit center and 226 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: she'd run into roadblocks like, well, you got to pay 227 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: a power pole fee to sew cal Edison. And I'm thinking, 228 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: wait a second, So cal Edison caused the fire, but 229 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: you got to pay them a four hundred and twenty 230 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: five dollars fee to put up a new power pole 231 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: or connect to the power pole. Yeah, they need a 232 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: temporary one installed, and until it's installed, you can't continue 233 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: your construction. What are you what are you talking about? 234 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: They burned the lady's house down. They burned the lady's 235 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: house down, and now they're charging for the power pole 236 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: or they or she can't rebuild. How does this happen? Yeah, 237 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody the other day who just said, 238 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: absent minded least, like, you know you got you get 239 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: a government job. You know you're set. You know you 240 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: get you get benefits, you get pensions, you know you 241 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: don't have to worry anymore. You got a decent salary. 242 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, that's why, that's why we've gone 243 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: to hell, because there's no reason for any of these 244 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: government worker slobs to care about anything. And they don't 245 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: they know why should they They got the healthcare, they 246 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: got the pension, they got a decent salary, they can't 247 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: be fired. That is for great arguments to get a 248 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: government job and just sit on your big, round fat 249 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: ass all day. Why people who have been burned out 250 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: by the local utility try to navigate the labyrinth? All right? 251 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: What we got coming up next? Oh, this has always 252 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: been a favorite topic of mind losir college degrees. And 253 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: there is a study out from American University and Yale 254 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: and it identified which college degrees will keep you in 255 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: big debt. You hear all these people whining about their 256 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: college debt. Well, part of the problem is they took 257 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: stupid majors and the jobs that the qualify for don't 258 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: pay anything because they're not worth anything. So tell you 259 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: about that when we come back. 260 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A 261 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: six forty. 262 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: We are on every day from three to six and 263 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: after six o'clock John Cobelt's show on demand on the 264 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: iHeart app. Today on the podcast you listen to hour 265 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: one to three o'clock hour We did well. Christopher Rufo, 266 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: the investigative journalist, did quite an investigation into the massive 267 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: fraud that Gavin Newsom allowed during the COVID lockdown with 268 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: the unemployment insurance tens of billions of dollars and including 269 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: to a rapper who wrote a rap song about it, 270 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: and we played it, and so you should hear that. 271 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: I mean, the whole thing is just enraging because it 272 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: was Romanian gangs, it was death row inmates. It's this 273 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: rapper guy and he and his buddy were bragging about 274 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: the money they stole from California from Gavin Newsom with 275 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: fake unemployment flake unemployment claims. So we'll do that. Also 276 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: four o'clock hour, we discussed how Kamala Harris and her 277 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: deadbeat husband is ripping you off. We are still paying 278 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 1: for CHP security for her stupid book tour. And I 279 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: see this up close because she lives a little ways 280 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: down from me, and I drive down Sunset Boulevard and 281 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: I see all these big black SUVs and this woman 282 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: is unemployed. She's no longer a public servant, no longer 283 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: vice president, no longer senator, attorney general. She's out of work. 284 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: She has no legal right to this protection. But Gavin 285 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: Newsom is spending our money and will not release any records. 286 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: On how much money he is spending on Kamala or 287 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 1: how many bodies she has protecting her. Uh the uh 288 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: California posted this story on something that I've always gotten 289 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: a good laugh. Uh. A lot of a lot of 290 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: college degrees are crap. They are, And for years, nobody 291 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 1: would say that out loud, and I'd hear people whine 292 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: about I can't make money, and uh uh you know, 293 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: I went to college. Now I got one hundred thousand 294 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: dollars in debt, and I was like, well, all right, Well, 295 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: I say to myself, what did you What did you study? 296 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: What's your major? And it's usually some some garbage major 297 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: that has something to do with a lot I don't know, 298 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: human resources work or social work or all that all 299 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: that like de I nonsense. You know, gender studies, racial studies, 300 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: gender and racial studies, ethnic studies, all those fake jobs 301 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: that sprouted up, which are now most of them are 302 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: gone because corporations fired all those people. The government, Uh, 303 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: this federal government got rid of a lot of those people, 304 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: and now they've got a sorry loser worth degree and 305 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: they're pissed off because they're still in debt. Well, of 306 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: course you're going to be in debt because all those 307 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: jobs didn't make money for anybody. You have to have 308 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: a job that makes money for somebody, or you have 309 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: to have a job if you're going to work for yourself. 310 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: That's vital for people like medicine, for example. According to 311 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: a study from It's a center at American University, it's 312 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: got a long, long title along with research from Yale, 313 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: degrees in social work are literally a zero. You will 314 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: get a zero to negative return on investment for the 315 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: tuition you pay and the loans you take out. If 316 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: you walk out of there with a social work degree. 317 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: That is like the worst degree if you want to 318 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: make money. It's a good degree if you marry somebody 319 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: who's doing much better financially or they've inherited money. But 320 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: on your own, you were going to have a life 321 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: time of poverty. You'll never pay off your loans, and 322 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: then you will vote for politicians who will promise that 323 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: they will steal money from me and you, from people 324 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: who work for a living to finance their sorry ass. Education. Psychology, yeah, 325 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: we can do with a lot fewer psychologists and counselors 326 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: and therapists in the world. 327 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 4: Don't they make a lot of money those therapists in 328 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: private practice. 329 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: Apparently not psychology is one of the worthless degrees zero 330 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: to negative return. They used data on eight hundred thousand 331 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: students over thirty years. They looked at Texas public universities 332 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: and they calculated how much like this focused to some 333 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: extent on graduate degrees, and people try to get their 334 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: I guess, their masters, their doctorates. It's not They students 335 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: thought it would boost their lifetime earnings and it doesn't. 336 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: I've always thought it was nuts. I mean, I didn't 337 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: understand why people wanted to go in debt for five 338 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: and six figures and then you hear what they're studying. 339 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: I always thought, man, you're nuts. Plus down. A lot 340 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: of jobs are going to disappear with AI coming. Salaries 341 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: tripled if you got a medical doctorate degree, if you 342 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: got a doctorate in pharmacy, it's shot up over two thirds. 343 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: You see, you do something practical like treat people's illnesses, 344 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: or you understand how to create the drug combinations and 345 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: manage the drug supply. 346 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 4: Yeah take that AI. 347 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah they can't do that yet. 348 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 4: Yes. 349 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: The graduate program apparently attracted a lot of women and 350 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: and and a lot of women like to do that 351 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: that social work stuff. 352 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 4: Well, they do that social work stuff. 353 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: Well, you know social workers, you like child service workers, 354 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: for example, or well, my government work that is largely 355 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: a female thing. It's same thing with psychology. 356 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 4: There are plenty of male psychiatrys. 357 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: Not as many as women. Though women they're okay with 358 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: sitting and listening to people's problems. Guys can only do 359 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: so much of that. I used to think I could 360 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: be a psychologist. Oh well, I used to think because 361 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: I was fascinated by the human mind and how screwed 362 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: up the human mind is. And then I realized that 363 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: that's all I'd want to do is I would be 364 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: like a voyeur. I would want to listen to people 365 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: just to see how screwed up they are. 366 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 4: And then you'd give that chat GBT and okay, just 367 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 4: jump off. 368 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: You know. 369 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: What should I do, doctor, jump off a building. 370 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 4: You've lived long enough, or. 371 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: That you've done enough, things are not gonna get better, 372 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: call it quits. And then I realized I wouldn't have 373 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: the patients listening to people's problems, because I have found 374 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: I could figure out what's wrong with people in just 375 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: a few minutes. And you also quickly learned that because 376 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: they have character issues, character flaws, uh, logic issues that 377 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: they're never gonna They're never gonna fix themselves. They're never 378 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: gonna do what they do. They're just gonna spin around 379 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: and around and around with their neuroses. 380 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 4: I'm glad that you decided against that field. 381 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think I probably had my patients come 382 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: back and kill me. I mean, people's problems largely are 383 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: are quickly solvable, but they're not emotionally capable of grasping that, 384 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: and and they're they're locked in these behavioral loops. 385 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 4: I used to want to be a therapist. Now I'd 386 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 4: be better at it than you. 387 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: You're patient, Yes, you're empathetic. Yes you listen well, yes, 388 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: thank you. I am not empathetic. I'm not patient to me. 389 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: I listen to you, Yeah I do. I'd listen to 390 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: my friends, to people close to me. But I'm talking 391 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: about strangers coming in. 392 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how I would do it. With strangers. 393 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: I'd look at them and say, oh, I can see 394 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: why you're a loser. I'm in why wouldn't do that? 395 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: That's what That's what would happen. I'd get impatient. I 396 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: also thought. I also think that a lot of counselors 397 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: keep you on the string so they could keep charging 398 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: their I don't know what do they. 399 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 4: Charge, like probably two fifty an hour to. 400 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: Fifty an hour, Yeah, for two fifteen hours. I'd never 401 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: solve anybody's problems. In fact, i'd give I'd convince them 402 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: they have problems that they don't have. 403 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 4: Oh, John, Yeah, that's what I did. 404 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: Well, if they're if they're stupid enough. 405 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 4: It's not stupid. It's just people don't have other people 406 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 4: in their lives to talk to, and they need somebody. 407 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: And there's a reason for that. People who die alone, 408 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: there's a reason the world left them alone. That's just 409 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, my your analysis, my operating philosophy in life. 410 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: You always say everything happens for a reason. 411 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 4: Not everything. There are things that are happening in my 412 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 4: life that are not for a reason. 413 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: They're unreasonable. 414 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 4: They're unreasonable. 415 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: Yes, I think people end up where they are in 416 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: life for good reason. That it's it's most of the 417 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: time it's not an accident. Sometimes sometimes it's fate or 418 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: thank you, just bad luck. You know. I was thinking 419 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: of starting a psychology show. Maybe we could do that 420 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: for like a separate online podcast, and I'll solve people's problems. 421 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 4: That would be hysterical, I'd rather not. 422 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: And I'll end every call by telling him to jump 423 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: off a bridge. 424 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A 425 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: six forty. 426 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: Trump is going to speak to the nation at six 427 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: o'clock and we'll bring you to you live here on 428 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: KFI and I'll have some news with with Mark Ronner 429 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: in just a couple of minutes. Henry Lee died. If 430 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: you lived and remembered the nineties and two thousands OJ 431 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: Simpson trial, John Bennet Ramsey case, Phil Spector trial, doctor 432 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: Henry Lee was one of the most famous doctors and 433 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 1: he was renowned for blood spatter analysis and he was 434 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 1: constantly hired as an expert. He worked for the defense 435 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: in the OJ case. He would find things that nobody 436 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: else found. Well, it turns out in some cases it's 437 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: because he made it up. In the OJ case, as 438 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: it turns out, he claimed that there were undiscovered bloody 439 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: footprints at the crime scene and that Simpson was being framed. Well, 440 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: it turned out they were imprints of boots and tools 441 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: from the workmen who poured the concrete. He also was 442 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: accused of taking a fingernail from the crime scene of 443 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: Phil Spector. You remember he was the record producer who 444 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: killed Lana Clarkson in his home. He was accused of 445 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: stealing a fingernail. They recently looked over evidence against two 446 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: men in Connecticut named Sean Henning and Ricky Birch. Turns 447 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: out they were wrongfully convicted in nineteen eighty nine for 448 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: the murder of another man. Conviction rested on Lee's forensic testimony. 449 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: Doctor Lee, it was about a towel with a red smear. 450 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: He said it tested positive for blood. Well, later on 451 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: they discovered there was no blood on the towel and 452 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: the towel had never been tested anyway. So that you 453 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: know when they said he he discovered evidence, nobody else 454 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: did it because he he made up some of the evidence. 455 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: And one investigator said the pressure got to him and 456 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: he got to the point where he couldn't live up 457 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: to the image, so he kept giving answers without doing examinations. 458 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: The hell, this guy was a legend in his time. 459 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: No big trial went by without doctor Henry Lee being 460 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: a part of it. Brent Turvey is the one who 461 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: said that forensic scientist and a criminologist. He was one 462 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: of these students, and he said, the pressure got to 463 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: the guy and so we just started making stuff up 464 00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: and Jerry's fell for it. An investigative team said they've 465 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: uncovered at least six instances of Lee contributing to innocent 466 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: people going to prison. Wow. And he was trying to 467 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: defend himself until his death. But he finally died at 468 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: the age of eighty seven. There's another guy who is 469 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: a public hero and he turned out to be a fraud. 470 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: That seems to be constant, isn't it. Nothing is as 471 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: it seems. Nobody is who they seem to be. Believe, 472 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: no one trust nothing. All right, when we come back, No, 473 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm not coming back. I'm going home. Mark Runner is 474 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: going to do the news and then we're gonna have 475 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: Trump on and he's doing his speech to the nation 476 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: about the Iran war and who knows where that goes, 477 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: And we'll see you tomorrow. Podcasts will be out in 478 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: a few minutes. Conway will be out after Trump and 479 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: Mark Ronner is in for Michael Krozer live in the 480 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: KFI twenty four hour newsroom. You've been listening to the 481 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Show. Podcast. 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