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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, home of the

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Speaker 1: modern whitetail hunter and now your host, Mark Kenyon. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm your host, Mark Kenyon,

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Speaker 1: and today the show, I'm joined by Parker McDonald of

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Speaker 1: the Southern Ground Hunting Podcast to discuss deer hunting in

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Speaker 1: Alabama hunting adventure. All right, welcome to the Wired to

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Speaker 1: Hunt podcast, brought to you by First Light. Today we're

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Speaker 1: talking to Alabama. This is another one of my hunts

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Speaker 1: that I did this past fall. Working on this new series,

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Speaker 1: I've been telling you about where I am traveling to

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Speaker 1: so spending a day following along with them, asking them

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Speaker 1: how they hunt, how they find their spots, their different

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Speaker 1: there for three or four days myself in that area,

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Speaker 1: trying to hunt on my own and get one done.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I did in Alabama, went down there

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Speaker 1: to visit with Parker, who is a die hard public

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Speaker 1: in the state of Alabama and other southern states, and

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Speaker 1: he's doing it by using the water to his advantage, kayaking, canoeing, boating,

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Speaker 1: whatever it takes to get too hard to reach areas,

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Speaker 1: finding these bucks where other people can't get to them.

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Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to learn about. So in December,

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Speaker 1: for their annual rut cation. The rut down this part

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Speaker 1: discussed today with Parker and Randall on the show, we're

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Speaker 1: in discuss how that hunt went. We're discussed why Parker

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Speaker 1: uses water, how he uses water, how he has discovered

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Speaker 1: the South in places like this now Alabama. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: cover all that, a lot of good how to stuff,

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Speaker 1: but then we're gonna walk through, day by day how

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Speaker 1: my hunt went down there, the crazy things that happened,

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Speaker 1: a little teaser for you story to come here. It's

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Speaker 1: a good one. It was a lot of fun and

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Speaker 1: it was it was just great to finally get to

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Speaker 1: go down get a glimpse into this Southeastern deer hunting

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Speaker 1: culture that I know so rich and so many of

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Speaker 1: this one. Thank you for listening. And from here, let's

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Speaker 1: get to my conversation with Parker and Randall McDonald. All

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Speaker 1: right with me on the show. Now we've got Parker

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Speaker 1: and Reginald McDonald. Okay, not Reginald, this Randall. But our

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Speaker 1: our inside joke of the trip was giving Randall many

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Speaker 1: different names. So, guys, thank you for being here, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for having us, And it was a great time visiting

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Speaker 1: Um that said what I think drew me to you, Parker. Originally,

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Speaker 1: And uh, Parker Man, I'm as big as fan number

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Speaker 1: and talked to you on the phone. So I definitely

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00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: didn't have any like concern of whether or not, you know,

430
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a nice guy, or or your crew

431
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: was gonna be great or anything. But I just I

432
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: think for me, I didn't imagine that we would have

433
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 1: as much fun as we did. Um, you know, you

434
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: get that many people, and you get you know, you

435
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: guys are on a pretty strict uh storyline and you know,

436
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: creating the right storyline, getting all the right camera angles

437
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 1: and and all that stuff. But it was really just

438
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: so organic. It wasn't like anything was just you know,

439
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 1: staged or anything like that. It was it was super organic.

440
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: We had such a stinking good time, and uh yeah,

441
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: I definitely would say that My expectations were, um, we're

442
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, not not necessarily low, but it far exceeded him.

443
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: We had. I found myself, I know, I had a

444
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: good time. When after the trip is over and it's done,

445
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, and I find myself sitting at home thinking, man,

446
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: I wish those guys were still here. That was such

447
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: a fun time. So you know, I definitely had fun. Yeah,

448
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: it was. It was great. And I asked that because

449
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: it's just got a it must it was a risky

450
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: thing for you guys to take on. I guess that's

451
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. I and I felt bad.

452
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: I felt a little ad like we're intruding on this

453
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: special family event that you guys have and we're coming

454
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: in with all this camera equipment and all these people

455
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. And I had like worries like,

456
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I hope we're not imposing too much.

457
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: I hope we're not going to ruin their week. I hope,

458
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, I hope they have fun. I hope we

459
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: have fun. Um. So I'm glad to hear it. It

460
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: turned out well for everyone, and and you know, we

461
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: showed up that first night set up camp, and I

462
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: think pretty quickly you've got a sense of our sense

463
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,719
Speaker 1: of humor, and we got a sense of yours, and

464
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: that we all jibed really good. Um, it was it

465
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: was a lottle after on this one. But so Mark,

466
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: I have a question for you, if you don't mind me. Yeah,

467
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: my podcast, my podcast Hostness is coming out. I love it. Um,

468
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: Whenever I told you that, hey, yeah, that'd be cool.

469
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: My dad's a pastor, he's gonna be here. And what

470
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: were your expectations of a pastor being in a meat

471
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: eater camp. Well, I did have worries a little bit,

472
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: not not like significant worries, but we sometimes operate on

473
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: like a PG thirteen level. I guess would say, like,

474
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: we're not bad, but we're definitely PG thirteen. Um, and

475
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: I just hope that must be honest at least okay,

476
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: at least okay, fair enough. I just didn't want to

477
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: offend I didn't want to offend you Randall or or

478
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: do anything to put you in an uncomfortable situation. And

479
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: so I was hoping that we'd all be on our

480
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: best behavior. Um. And what ended up surprising me was

481
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: you know you're you. How do I say this without

482
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: you were a great sport and you had a good

483
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: time with us, and you didn't seem to be, uh,

484
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: you know, bothered by any of the jokes, any of

485
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: the fun we're having, and you're just part of the

486
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: crew of course. And uh I think I told you

487
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 1: you're my favorite pastor and uh I stick to it. Well,

488
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: if you've been in camp with Parker, what y'all did

489
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: was very mild compared to what Parker. Parker is one

490
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: of the most uh, lovingly sarcastic people. Your effort and

491
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: uh I had a blast. Y'all were y'all were so

492
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: much fun and and uh my whole deal is I

493
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: didn't want anybody to say, all the pastors here, we

494
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: gotta calm down now. I want you to be you.

495
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: And uh I thought we had a great time. It

496
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: was it was so good. The food was unbelievable. We

497
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: did often come back any time to Ruta ring and

498
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: dress food. Yeah. So for those who who Andreas hasn't

499
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: been in the podcast yet, he probably needs to be

500
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: in the podcast as he became such a part of

501
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: my season. Um, but Andreas is the producer for my

502
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: two shows I was hosting this year one week in November,

503
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: and uh this show, and the way I would describe

504
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: what Andreas does and what a producer does a mediator

505
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: is you're basically an air traffic controller for everything related

506
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: to these shows. So he's helping playing logistics of all

507
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: sorts and types and and he comes on these hunts

508
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: some most of them now, um, and he's just there

509
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: at base camp making sure everything's going right with the cameraman,

510
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: managing all the different footage that we're compiling, managing all

511
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: the different gear issues, managing camp, managing the million different

512
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: things you have going on when you've got a group

513
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: of five or six people trying to build out this thing.

514
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: And uh, so andre has has taken up the mantle

515
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: of camp chef when we've been camping out for some

516
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: of these hunts. He's at the camp all day while

517
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: we're out hunting. That's been his thing to pick up

518
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: and do and he's gotten very good at it. So

519
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: Andrea's gets kudos from me and I think all of us,

520
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm doing a nice job with that. And um and yes,

521
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: so I think I think that first night we ate

522
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 1: before heading in, we we voted in set up camp

523
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: and the next morning, the game plan was for me

524
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: to follow you, Parker and tag along for a hunt

525
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: and just see how you do everything you do and

526
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: then ask you a million questions, kind of do like

527
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: a podcast in person, and try to learn about your

528
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: whole stick in that morning. And the first thing that

529
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: stood out to me that first day was, you know,

530
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: we're getting into our kayaks. It was two hours before

531
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: daylight or something. We're on the edge of the water

532
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: and we're getting set up and it was just it

533
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: was just a cloud. We're in a cloud. There was

534
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: no visibility. We could hardly see five ft in front

535
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: of our face as the fog it was pitch black,

536
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: and then this this soupy, thick fog that was just

537
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: nearly impenetrable. And you start going out ahead of me.

538
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: We're reaching kayaks. You're in the front kayak. We've got

539
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: a little trolling motor on each one and then a

540
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: paddle for you know, close close to shore work. But

541
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: we were troll motoring across the main lake and we

542
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: seemed to be going and I didn't know where we

543
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: were going. I don't know how big this place was.

544
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: I didn't really have a context, it just seemed like

545
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: we were going forever, and it didn't look like we

546
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: were going anywhere though. It kind of felt like I

547
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: was just stuck in the same place us going nowhere,

548
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: but doing it for a very very, very very very

549
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: long time. And then I don't know how long, it

550
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: felt like we've been motoring along for half an hour.

551
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: It probably was ten minutes, I don't know, but I

552
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: started thinking we were spinning in circles. It started feeling

553
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: like I was just because I felt like I remember

554
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: my trolling Maar was slightly turned but we never straightened it,

555
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: so just like constantly spinning, and I'm all of a sudden,

556
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: I started thinking, man, we're just going in a circle.

557
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: And then my head started spinning like literally, and I

558
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: know I told you this that day or the next

559
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: day or something, but I started getting nauseous, like it

560
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: started really thinking I was spinning around in circles, and

561
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: I was getting sick, and I thought, if we keep

562
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: going like this very much longer, I'm gonna puke, like

563
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: I was right there about too. And then all of

564
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, like just as I was started and had

565
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: that feeling, all of a sudden, shore came into view

566
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: in the head lamps and we were right there. Um,

567
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: but it was bizarre. And you told me that's not

568
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: that's not an uncommon thing around there. Huh. That kind

569
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: of disorientation, this horrible fog, I mean, that's that's a

570
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: real factor. Yeah, And I don't know if that has

571
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: something to do with and I'm sure it does has

572
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: something to do with the just the weather in the South.

573
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: So like, for example, yesterday morning, I woke up and

574
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: it was seventy five degrees and by midnight yesterday it

575
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: was snowing. So it's just kind of dumb. But water temperatures,

576
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: when the water is warmer than it is outside or whatever,

577
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you get fog on on water like that,

578
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: and you don't ever get like a consistent cold. I

579
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: think whenever I think that first day we were there,

580
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: it was like what like seventy degrees something like that.

581
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: I mean we were all in like early season, like September,

582
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 1: clothing and sweating like it was just whatever. So so

583
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: you get that, and so when you add water to

584
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: it to it, you get this, just like you said, Dick, Dick,

585
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: fog on the water. And I remember the first time

586
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: that I did it, that way. I mean you eventually,

587
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: you eventually get used to it and you just kind

588
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: of learned to navigate it and it nothing freaky out

589
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: too much, and you know whatever. But I remember the

590
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: first time I did it, and I was like, it's

591
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: one of those It's one of those times when every

592
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: scary movie you've ever watched you start remembering it. You

593
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: haven't thought about I hadn't thought about Poltergeist, and you know,

594
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: ten years and all of a sudden, hey remember that

595
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: scary movie you watched. It's like and so so you

596
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: get that kind of stuff and then like every once

597
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: in a while, you'll hell hear beavers slap the water.

598
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 1: You're like, freaking crap, this sucks so bad. And and

599
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: like you said, you just you're like I feel like

600
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm just spinning around in circles and uh. And like

601
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: I said, you get used to it. You start using

602
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: you know, whatever map mapping system you're using, whether it's

603
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, on ex Spartan, Forge Hunt Stand stuff like that, uh,

604
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: and learning to navigate those those type of situations. But yeah,

605
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't think I knew how

606
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: serious it was for you until I listened to a

607
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: podcast that you did with Dan on nine Finger Chronicles

608
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: and you were talking about like I almost threw up.

609
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: I was like, huh, and I have a bad habit

610
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: of like it really is a bad habit. I tried

611
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: not to to be that way, um of like just

612
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: going and I remember looking back at one point I

613
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: was like, oh, crap, I've left I've left them behind

614
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: stopped and uh. It's it's hard to do when you're

615
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: in the front and you don't you know, just kind

616
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: of expect everybody to be falling you and you look

617
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: back and it's like, oh crap, there yards behind me.

618
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: I better slow down. Yeah, because because not only did

619
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: I get all kind of woozy, but then also still

620
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: just getting the feel of steering with the trolling motor

621
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: and the extension on it. You know, everything's like backwards

622
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: and I kept my head just was like not there

623
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: were just so many things going on. It couldn't get

624
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: it straight in my head. And so it just took

625
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: me longer to get the hang of everything that night

626
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: or that morning. But but I figured it out. We

627
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: survived it. It was all good, um. And that was

628
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: the worst of the fog for the trip. Really, there

629
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: was one an other day was pretty bad but not horrible. Um.

630
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: But that brings to point to or brings to mind

631
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: from me two things. One, you know, this was an

632
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: inherent challenge of using water like we experienced that morning.

633
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: One of the big challenges of depending on water to

634
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: get to your spots, because you know, if you didn't

635
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: have on X or an app of some kind, you know,

636
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: it would be essentially impossible unless you just used a

637
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: compass and then follow the shoreline to get to different places.

638
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: But I mean it definitely throws a big kink in

639
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: or big challenge into getting into your hunting spots when

640
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: you've got to deal with fog or you know, serious wind.

641
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: Like one day we had some serious wind and I

642
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: started thinking, Man, I don't know if this kayak is

643
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: gonna make much ground at all going against those gales

644
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: of wind coming down. I mean, there's a lot of

645
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: challenges to it. Um, So why is it worth those challenges?

646
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: I know, you know we kind of touched on and

647
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: briefly like get away from people, But sell me on

648
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: why and how water access is so important and war

649
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: the challenges that that that comes along with, because there

650
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: are I mean, there's there's safety issues to them. And

651
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: there's a bunch that comes around along with it. Why

652
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: is it worth it? What makes it so so important?

653
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: And what you do? Well, there's a there's a couple

654
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: of different things for me, Um, like I said before,

655
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: Like I I really like the adventure and the story

656
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: and the you know, being able to tell somebody, you know,

657
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: I went, you know, in the wind and rain in

658
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: a kayak and killed this buck. You know, that's a

659
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: it's a cool story and a cool experience. Stuff that

660
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: like what you've called type too fun is definitely it's

661
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: a definitely thing in it, and it type too fun

662
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: is almost more fun in the long run than your

663
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: type one fun. Right Like so, so there's that aspect

664
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: that has almost nothing to do with the strategy or anything.

665
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: It's just a feeling. Um. The second thing obviously is

666
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: getting away from people, and it makes it definitely worth

667
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: it what I would rather do. I like it. There

668
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: are not a lot of things to me that are

669
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: worse than somebody like a human ruining a hunt. Right,

670
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: so somebody walking underneath you or whatever, like nothing just

671
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: completely destroys my confidence like that does. And uh, and

672
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: so that it makes it worth it and worth it

673
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: in that regard. Um. But there are so many advantages

674
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: to coming at a piece of property from water. Um.

675
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: Number one, let's just let's just talk about getting busted

676
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: on your on your access so early in the morning.

677
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: You if anybody knows anything about thermals, you know that

678
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: your thermals are pulling down usually if it's dark outside.

679
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: So when you're coming from water, your thermals are absolutely

680
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: drawn to that water. And so any deer that is

681
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: on land as long as you as long as they

682
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: don't like if they don't see you or hear you

683
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: or whatever, if you're not like super close to them,

684
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: you're not gonna spook them, um, because they're not gonna

685
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: catch your wind because your your thermals are just pulling

686
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: down into the water. The second thing is is most

687
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: of the time the deer don't associate that water with danger.

688
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: There's people fishing, like I said, there's beavers making all

689
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: kinds of racket, there's ducks making noise, I mean, fish jumping,

690
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: any type of splashing or anything like that. It's just

691
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: not a it's not a spook to them, like you know,

692
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: like a brier catching onto a to your hoodie and

693
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: making a wild racket that spooks them because they associate

694
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: that with danger. But when you're coming at them from water,

695
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they're used to noise in those type of

696
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: areas like that, and so they don't associate it with danger.

697
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: And I think for me that has turned out to

698
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: be one of the biggest advantages that I wasn't even

699
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: thinking about earlier on um. And it like I can

700
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: access a piece of a piece of land. And just

701
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: for example, I had a hunt it's uh, probably in October.

702
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: It was in October, and I drugged my kayak to

703
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: a like across a piece of property apart, drug it across,

704
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: making all kinds of noise and literally just kayak right

705
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: across a slough to another piece of property that was

706
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: only accessible by water, like you would I would have

707
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: had to do do it that way. And I shot

708
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: a deer at daylight. I mean I made all kinds

709
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: of noise getting that kayak drug across the land that

710
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: was only maybe a hundred yards away. And literally when

711
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: I stepped my step foot on the land and walked

712
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: like I think I walked like ten yards, there was

713
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: a deer standing there and I shined his eyes and

714
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: it was it had been standing there the whole time

715
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: I was making all that racket, And to me, that

716
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: just proves, like you know, the deer aren't expecting any

717
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: type of danger coming from the water. Now they will

718
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: get condition and to expect it in certain spots if

719
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: you're you know, over hunting a spot or whatever. But

720
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: by and large, I find all over the country that

721
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: coming coming at any animal from water, turkeys are the

722
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 1: same way. I mean, uh, I've literally paddled right underneath

723
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: a turkey on the river that was roosted and got

724
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: set up on him, you know, later that morning before

725
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: he flew down. So I mean it's I just think

726
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: for a lot of wildlife, and then you have you

727
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: have just the idea that, uh, wildlife is drawn to

728
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: water because they needed to survive. So your your densities

729
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: are going to be a lot better close to water

730
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: because they're just they're just drawn to it. So then

731
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: what about how you're getting across that water. I know

732
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: you've you've used a number of different types of vessels

733
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: to use, you know, to get water access to spots.

734
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: We use kayaks for some of the time, you had

735
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: a boat for some of it. Can you walk me

736
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: through like how you make your choices, what's the ideal

737
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: set up, what are the different types of boats or

738
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: vessels you'd like to use. Kind of give me the

739
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: scoop on all that. Well, it's like anything, man, it's

740
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: it's uh, you kind of want to have every tool

741
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: for every job. And I recently just bought a new

742
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: boat last week. I bought a boat because the kayak

743
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: is so sexy, man. I mean, like, there's there's not

744
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: a lot of cooler pictures to me than a buck

745
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: laid on in front of a kayak. But there's also

746
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: some efficiency issues with a kayak when you're talking about

747
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: some spots that might be five miles away from the

748
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: nearest spot you could put in. And so like I

749
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: was finding that my effectiveness while while I am try

750
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: to grind as hard as I possibly can, Like I

751
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: would be getting up at one one o'clock in the

752
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: morning to get out there and be on the water

753
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: by three so that I could get to a spot

754
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: before daylight. And I mean that wears on you. Whereas

755
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: with a boat, you really I mean, when you got

756
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: a you know, a decent sized boat, you can get

757
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: into a spot and in just a matter of minutes

758
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: compared to ours with a kayak. But I have many spots.

759
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: I mean a spot that I killed, um two of

760
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: my Alabama bucks that this year where I couldn't use

761
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: a boat, that I wouldn't be able to get a

762
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: boat back in there. Um, it's just too big and

763
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: and it's not It's also not a far trip in

764
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 1: a kayak, so I can get from where I put

765
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: in at from the launch to the spot. I can

766
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: be there within a few minutes in a kayak just paddling.

767
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: So uh, it's better for that. And I've I've hunted

768
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: places in in Kentucky where you really, I mean, it

769
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't be worth the trouble of hauling a boat because

770
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: it's the waters, it's skinny water. And so I think

771
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: there's I think there's different reasons. Uh. One of the

772
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: eye opening things to me this year, I was hunting

773
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: in Kentucky and I was using my kayak to acts

774
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: as a place. I shot a big buck um at

775
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: like eleven o'clock that morning, and the deer just didn't bleed.

776
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: It was a great shot. Deer just didn't bleed. And

777
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: I was calling dogs. I searched for a little bit

778
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: myself and decided a dog would be the best option.

779
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: I was calling dogs, and nobody wanted to come and

780
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: try to figure out a way to get their dog

781
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: on a kayak and all that crap. And so if

782
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: I would have had a boat, there's not a doubt

783
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: in my mind I would recover that deer. But I

784
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: never found it because I was I was limited to

785
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: just me being there by myself. And uh, if I

786
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: would have had a have had a bigger vessel, I

787
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: could have you know, I got a dog in there

788
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: and recover the deer and so and and it was

789
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: also completely accessible by boat. I didn't need a kayak.

790
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: That was just the only craft that I had at

791
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: the time. So I think, Uh, I think, like I

792
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: said before, there's there's different Uh. You want to have

793
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: a tool for every job, and so I have both now,

794
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: which is gonna be great. I can't wait to get

795
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: that boat out there and use that more. Yeah. So,

796
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 1: given your experience with boats and kayaks, is there any

797
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: advice you'd give people if they're trying to get into

798
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: this as far as style of boat or kayak or

799
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: accessories or you know, any of the customizations or things

800
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: you've kind of tweaked over the years. Anything on that

801
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: front worth noting. I would definitely say to to anybody

802
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: wanting to get into it, Um, kayak is gonna be

803
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: kayak or canoe whatever. I chose the best of both

804
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: worlds and got a new canoe kayak which is basically

805
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: a hybrid and it's got like an over six pound

806
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: weight capacity on the the unlimited and the Frontier twelve version,

807
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: so you have plenty of weight capacity, got lots of space.

808
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: It's a really really good boat. You can put a

809
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: troll and motor on it. You can put a small

810
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: outboard motor on it. When you're talking about versatility, that

811
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: is like the most versatile thing. So I would buy

812
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: that first before I bought a boat, because with a boat,

813
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: you're still gonna be limited to a launch. You know,

814
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: having an actual boat ramp that you can put it

815
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: in at the kayak you can just drag it and

816
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: go and uh, it may be more work in some places,

817
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: you know. Like I said, for five years now, I've

818
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: been waking up at one thirty and go and doing

819
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: it that way. But it's still worked. It was still effective.

820
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be a little bit more effective

821
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: by having both of those. So I would highly recommend

822
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: a new canoe Frontier twelve or unlimited um as far

823
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: as versatility goes, and then you just kind of grow

824
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: from there. Like uh, like I said, the kayak is

825
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: super sexy, but like I'm tired of waking up at

826
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: one thirty every time I want to go five miles

827
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: away from the from the ramp. So so yeah, I would.

828
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: I would definitely said that that's a a great tool

829
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: to have, is and and if you can't afford a

830
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: new canoe, a kayak is still gonna be a kayak

831
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: or a canoe is still going to be about the

832
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: most versatile one, because I mean, it is still going

833
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: to be possible for you if you want to kayak

834
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: fifteen miles, it's possible, right. It might not be fun

835
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: and it might be hard work, but it's still possible.

836
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: So I would I would get something like that that

837
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: you can put anywhere you want. Yeah, Randal, you've you've

838
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 1: used some of these access tools now as well, since

839
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: Parker has been getting into it from up. I mean, Parker,

840
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: you're you're young guy who's kind of crazy, but from

841
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: a dad perspective, Randall, would you would you add anything else?

842
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: Is there anything for people you know a little older

843
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: than Parker and me if they're thinking, Man, I don't

844
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: know if this is just a young man's game or not.

845
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you've done it successfully too, right right. I

846
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: really have enjoyed the the kayak ability. I I mean, yes,

847
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: I love having the buddy heater in my in my

848
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: tall blind and be able to crawl up there and

849
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: just enjoy the hunt. That's great, it's fun. I do

850
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: that on my land. But but man, I tell you,

851
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: one of the funnest times I had was last year

852
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: at rut cation. Uh, and I think I think it's

853
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 1: on Parker's YouTube channel, but man, I had a spike

854
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: come in and and I got to first of all

855
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: shoot the spike out of my tree saddle, so that

856
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: was kind of cool. I've never done that. And then

857
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: uh got to kayak it out with my my nucas.

858
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: And I'm a big guy, okay, I mean I'm wide.

859
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a wide fella. And um that that kayak

860
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: and that deer or out of that place was just

861
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: it's a memory I will always have. I didn't I mean,

862
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: I loved paddling out it didn't really matter how far

863
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: back in we were. I had my my little trolling motor,

864
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: but I really enjoyed just paddling it out of there.

865
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: So I don't think that really matters how old you

866
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: are that that was such a high in my life

867
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 1: and it was a spot, but you would have thought

868
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: it was a hundred and fifty class buck. I mean,

869
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: I I really enjoyed that, and so yeah, it's it's

870
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: great in a boat. I'm I'm taking my boat out

871
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: Palabam and we've done that, but there was just something

872
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: a little more special about the kayak. It just it

873
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 1: just is a great experience. Yeah, well I can test

874
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 1: from from my time out there, there's definitely something special

875
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: about that. I could I could see it too, So

876
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: that brings that brings me then to the next piece

877
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: of this though, which is, Okay, we know we got

878
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 1: to use wall water. That's gonna get us away from people,

879
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: that's gonna give us better access. But the next thing

880
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: that I think a lot of people struggle with, and

881
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: that I certainly was curious about when I was looking

882
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: at maps of this area, was how the heck do

883
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: you find a deer? How do you find deer in

884
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: these big, vast, big woods tracts of public land where

885
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, without knowing anything else, you could say, well,

886
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: it could be anywhere out here. Um, that first morning, Parker,

887
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 1: we headed straight across the lake, went up a ridge,

888
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: got up top in a spot where you said, there

889
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: a few things all coming together that you liked, and

890
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: we we hunted there. Could you talk to me about

891
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: a why was that spot good? But then in general,

892
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, what are the things you look for in

893
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: this kind of terrain in Alabama to find deer on

894
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: public land? Well, that spot is such a good example.

895
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: And that's why I think it it worked out perfectly

896
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: for that first day is because that spot is where

897
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: I killed probably the biggest deer I've killed in Alabama,

898
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: not probably definitely the biggest deer I've ever killed in Alabama.

899
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: And it really kind of opened my eyes to a

900
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of different factors. And and it

901
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily that I hunted that spot for that reason,

902
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: but it was really like maybe the first time where

903
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: it came together for a big, mature deer, and um,

904
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: just just a breakdown of that area. So, uh, where

905
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: we're hunting is big woods. You know ridges fairly steep,

906
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: not too terribly tall, but pretty steep stuff. Um mostly

907
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: big woods though, And I I think it's easy for

908
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: people to get intimidated when they look at a map

909
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,959
Speaker 1: of big woods type areas because there's not like, there's

910
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: not soybean fields and the agg that you can really pinpoint.

911
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: There's not corners like that that you can pinpoint, or

912
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: funnels or anything like that. So um, the thing that

913
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: I've kind of developed for myself is this uh um

914
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: common denominator type mentality of if everything. If if I

915
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: find a spot on a map that shares all the

916
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,479
Speaker 1: different things that I'm looking for, then I'm not even

917
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: scared to go in there blind on a morning hunt.

918
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: Because what I found is if if an area offers

919
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: all these different things, more than likely it's gonna have deer.

920
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: I've been a very few of these places that I

921
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: just found nothing, and so that's kind of up my

922
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: odds a little bit. And those and I didn't coin

923
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: this phrase. Another guy that I had in my podcast

924
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: named Matt pale Um brought this up whenever I was

925
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: asking him how is he getting all these big bucks

926
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: in the boat range? He said, well, X marks the spot.

927
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: And so when you think of uh, when you think

928
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: of an X, right like everybody can make an X

929
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: with their with their fingers, if you can imagine a

930
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: different habitat type in each one of those negative spaces

931
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: and each one of those points of the X, so

932
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: as many different habitat types as you can find coming together,

933
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: if you can get right in the middle of that,

934
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: that's a lot of times gonna be where where the

935
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: deer are gonna end up at. So that by itself

936
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 1: is great, But then you add some type of terrain

937
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: feature like a ditch or a saddle or a bench

938
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: or something, some type of terrain feature that we know

939
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: that deer use. If you can put that to where

940
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: it's either in close proximity or right on where all

941
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: those habitat types meet, then you've just up your odds

942
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: even more because we know that deer like to use

943
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,479
Speaker 1: those type of terrain features by themselves. And so that's

944
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: been able to help me just really eliminate entire chunks

945
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: of big woods public land um because if it doesn't

946
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: have that, then there's a good chance I'm probably not

947
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: ever even gonna go in there unless it has that

948
00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: those things, those common denominators and it ups your odds significantly.

949
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: I think you know you you found that out. And um,

950
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: you know when you when you're talking about Alabama and

951
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: and maybe lower deer densities, or maybe it's not lower

952
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: deer densities, but just a lot of monotonous type habitat

953
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: and you're trying to key in on, you know, a

954
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: pocket of deer. Then that's been the greatest thing. And

955
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: so all of the uh, once I once I started

956
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: kind of figuring that out, this specific spot, um where

957
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: me and me and you went where I thought I

958
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: could explain it the best there was uh uh. Put

959
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: the on the public land side there was just hardwoods,

960
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: but then the property line, on the property line there

961
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: was a clear cut and then there was a bunch

962
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: of pines. And so you have a three way transition

963
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: right there that you can watch. And then going right

964
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: up into where all those habitat types come together, there's

965
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: a very subtle like when I say subtle, I mean

966
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: very subtle. Um uh did that goes right up into

967
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: those pines. And man, I the deer that the buck

968
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: that I shot in there a couple of years back,

969
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: he was just he walked right out of that three

970
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: way transition walking that ditch, go into his bedding overlooking

971
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: the water, and um, I find with water access, you

972
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 1: you you typically are gonna be deer light to bed

973
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: close to water because it offers a lot of thermal

974
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: advantage to him in the day where those thermals are

975
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: rising up and the winds going up over them. Also,

976
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: like I mentioned before, the water doesn't really pose a

977
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: threat to them, and so they'll bed close by it

978
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: because it's just a less chance of being in any

979
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: type of danger, uh coming from the water. So um, yeah,

980
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: all those factors start to add together, and you've come

981
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: up with you know, you may not have just you

982
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 1: may be looking at a thousand acres and there's only

983
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: three spots that you could potentially hunt on those on

984
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: that thousand acres. But I mean it really starts narrowing

985
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: down places to where it's not nearly as intimidating. Yeah.

986
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: I found that to be the case too. It was

987
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: it was easy for me to narrow things down when

988
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: you you kind of broke down the two or three

989
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 1: most important things. I remember after that first day, we

990
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: we sat in that spot you described, We both got

991
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: up there in the tree. We sat up there for

992
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: the morning. Didn't end up seeing any deer, but you know,

993
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: I had a good amount of time there just to

994
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: talk through all your different ideas and what you do

995
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: and how these deer in the south act and behave

996
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: and how they handle hunting pressure and all that stuff.

997
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: And when we got done with that, I kind of

998
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: got a thing like, what are the biggest takeaways here?

999
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: Is like number one, you know, find that convergence of

1000
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: habitat type seek you described the X marks of spot

1001
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: thing that was key. And then number two, use the

1002
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: water to get to places like that that nobody else

1003
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: can get to. And as you describe, there's not that

1004
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 1: many spots that check those two boxes. So I remember

1005
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: telling you, all right, Parker, so I just gotta find

1006
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: where the marks the spot, got to make sure I

1007
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 1: use the water to get away from where other people

1008
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: can get to. And then that's it, right, And then

1009
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: you said, well, there's one more thing. Then there's time

1010
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: you gotta go. You gotta find these places. You gotta

1011
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: get to those hard to find places, and then you

1012
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: gotta give a time and if you do that, it'll,

1013
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:20,479
Speaker 1: you know, opportunities will rise. Um. Was there anything else

1014
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 1: like when we when I parted ways with you after

1015
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: that morning hunt and I started go off on hunt

1016
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: on my own. Was there anything else that you thought

1017
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: in your mind, like, man, I wish I'd told him this,

1018
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,959
Speaker 1: or I forgot to talk about this, or there's something

1019
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: else that's important that we cover, you know, anything else

1020
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: people need to know to get the basics of finding

1021
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: and hunting deer in this country. I think you hit

1022
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: on probably the last thing that I didn't feel like

1023
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: I spent much time talking about. But that was the

1024
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: time and and the conditions right, So anybody can go

1025
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: into these spots with a wind crappy wind and not

1026
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: see anything. You know, I've dealt with that this year

1027
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: of people who have watched some of my videos and

1028
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: figured out the spots that I hunt and they're going

1029
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: in there and yeah, I mean, just as an example,

1030
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: I went out there one day and there was a

1031
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: guy hunting a spot that was on one of my videos.

1032
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: But the wind couldn't have been worse for that specific area,

1033
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: and so automatically I'm like, well, he's not gonna kill

1034
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: a deer there. Uh So I don't really don't have

1035
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: much to worry about. He's not gonna he's not gonna

1036
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: do much other than educate the deer you know that

1037
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: are in some of those betting areas. But um, you

1038
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: have to go in. And I don't think I'm saying

1039
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: anything that most hardcore deer hunters don't already know. But

1040
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: if the wind's not right, then this it can be

1041
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 1: the best spot in the world. You're not gonna see anything.

1042
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna just all you're gonna do is educate and

1043
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: so making sure you put in the right amount of

1044
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: time and making sure that you're in there when the

1045
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: conditions are right, that is, uh, that's perhaps the greatest

1046
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: thing that anybody can do. You can go into a

1047
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: a spot, um uh, you know, a hundred yards off

1048
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: the road on public land that may be getting pounded,

1049
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: and if you sit there every single day of the season,

1050
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: you might kill a right like you might there's a

1051
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: there's a decent chance that you're going to just because

1052
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: you put in the amount of time. I find that

1053
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: the most the people who kill the best deer and

1054
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: are the most consistent are the ones who are out

1055
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: there the most. So I mean think that for what

1056
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: it's worth, you know, I think that might be the

1057
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: most important tactic that anybody can can put into practices.

1058
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: Just go as much as you can, but in the

1059
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: right places and in the right places at the right

1060
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: times for those places, right sure, And I yes that

1061
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: will I think that will increase your odds for sure.

1062
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: Like I want to be I want to be effective

1063
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: and efficient, and so I'm gonna go into the right

1064
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: places for the you know it's gonna take. I think

1065
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: if you're in the right places, it's gonna take significantly

1066
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: less time. Um. I think what I'm saying is is

1067
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 1: like so out here, nobody, nobody really hunts the green

1068
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: fields on the wm as because everybody hunts the green fields. Um.

1069
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: But I know a guy out here that the biggest

1070
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: buck he ever killed was on one of those green fields.

1071
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: Um on on one of the w m a's He

1072
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: killed a hundred and sixty inch deer on public land

1073
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: in Alabama, off one of the green fields because he

1074
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: was just kind of there at the right time. So

1075
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: I think all these spots everywhere can produce if you

1076
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: sit there enough, But your your efficiency is gonna go up.

1077
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: Like for me and you, Mark, you had four days

1078
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: to go out there and and make something happen. We're

1079
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: gonna do the thing that I feel like is the

1080
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: most efficient, not just something that eventually it'll maybe produce something.

1081
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna do the thing that's gonna that that I

1082
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: feel like is going to produce the quickest speak kind

1083
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: of being on you know, short time frame to four days,

1084
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: brand new place, hunting, a new area, new style of hunting.

1085
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: You and me. You're sitting in that tree still that

1086
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: first morning. I remember asking you, Parker, like, what's a

1087
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: realistic what what is realistic for me to get a

1088
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: stab at out here? You know, I kind of wanted

1089
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: your perspective on how I might be thinking about my

1090
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: goals or standards for this trip. You want to kind

1091
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: of recap for me what you were thinking when it

1092
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: came to, you know, how I should be thinking about

1093
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: my decisions to target. Dear, And I remember, you know,

1094
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: when we first started talking, I was like, man, well,

1095
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: I see a two year old buck, a three year

1096
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: old buck? Should I shoot? The first year? I see?

1097
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: I really had no idea what was out there? Um,

1098
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: what was Give me a load down again of what

1099
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: your thoughts are on that. So we were I think

1100
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: we were talking on the phone and we were either

1101
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: texting or talking on the phone, I can't remember, but

1102
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: you had said, uh, hey, man, listen, this this whole

1103
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: dear culture thing is turn it out to be a

1104
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: lot harder than I anticipate it, going into new places

1105
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: and trying to kill a deer. And so you know,

1106
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: maybe what do you think, what do you think I

1107
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: should shoot? And I said, well, here's an example. I

1108
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: would be pissed if my dad didn't shoot the first

1109
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: buck that he saw when he comes down. Like, to me,

1110
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: that's if you can come as a nonresident to the South,

1111
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: especially in in some of the places that I hunt,

1112
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: if you can come out there and you can shoot

1113
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: a buck like that's a big accomplishment. When when you're

1114
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: not from here, you don't have the time invested and

1115
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: you're just trying to trying to shoot a deer like

1116
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: that's to me, that's a huge accomplishment. Um. I think

1117
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: I mentioned it before and when I was in Nebraska

1118
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: or not Nebraska and North Dakota earlier this season, I

1119
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: went out in like the second day on that public

1120
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: land area that I was hunting, I saw a giant buck.

1121
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: That's just not realistic out here. Um. And so I

1122
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: think whenever you when you when you said originally like

1123
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, a three and a three year old or

1124
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: a two year old would be like you're cut off.

1125
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: I was like, you know that that might not be

1126
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: a super realistic expectation. Uh, it's definitely possible, but may

1127
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: not be realistic for what you might see. And I

1128
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: gave you the example mark that I had hunted probably

1129
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: close to five days a week from October one through

1130
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and saw two bucks in that entire time period.

1131
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: And I I consider myself to be somebody who knows

1132
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: the area as well that i'm hunting, and I'm fairly

1133
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: effective in these areas that I'm hunting. But I saw

1134
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: a spike, and I saw a six point like a

1135
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: basketback tiny six point um And and that was from

1136
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: October through November through through I mean almost two months

1137
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: of hunting a lot. And so obviously you were there

1138
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: during the rut, so things would I felt like you

1139
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: had a good chance of being able to see a buck,

1140
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: but being able to see a big buck that's just

1141
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: a hard that's just a it's just it's just hard.

1142
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I think hunting matured deer anything over three

1143
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: and a half three and a half and older. Is

1144
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: is uh, very very difficult thing to do even in

1145
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: the place that you live, let alone it be in

1146
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: a place that you've never been to before. Um so yeah,

1147
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of where my When you said like, hey,

1148
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: I might be willing to shoot something a little bit younger,

1149
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: I know, I lit up because I was like, oh, yeah,

1150
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna make this happen. Now it don't work out,

1151
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: you basically said, man, you better let it fly. And

1152
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: when you when you told me that you've seen only

1153
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: two bucks since October, that's when I was like, Okay,

1154
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: I got a better idea of what we're dealing with here.

1155
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: And and I also was thinking about you talked about

1156
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: one thing that stuck with me. You had said after

1157
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: we got done that morning hunt and we're about to

1158
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: go boat away from the shore line, and you said,

1159
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: you know a lot of guys have that moment, like

1160
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: that really special moment for them is when they walk

1161
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: up to a buck they just killed and they finally

1162
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: get to see it and put their hands on and said, well,

1163
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: that's not the moment on this kind of hunt. The

1164
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: moment on this kind of hunt is when you get

1165
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: that deer in the kayak and you're floating across the

1166
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: lake or the river or whatever, and you're just paddling

1167
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: along and you get to kick back and look up

1168
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: at the sky and look at the water and the

1169
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: waves lapping up against your boat and the buck out

1170
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: there in front of you, and you just soak that

1171
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: all in. That's the moment. I remember thinking, I want

1172
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: that moment. I don't care if it's a four year

1173
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: old or a one year old or a buck. I

1174
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: want that moment to kind of get the whole experience.

1175
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: And that's when I decided, you know what, Yeah, if

1176
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: I can get a buck, I'm gonna be pretty darn tickled.

1177
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: And so that ended up being the goal was just

1178
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: you see, if you see handlers, you're you're letting a rip,

1179
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: and uh, that was the game plan. That moment is

1180
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: is unbeatable to me. And um, you know it. I

1181
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: have found, like like what my dad said earlier, even

1182
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: if I have a motor hooked up, if I shoot

1183
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: a deer, I'll just float out and I'll take my time.

1184
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: I'll take pictures. You know, call people, call my friends,

1185
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: you know, my hunting buddies, called dad. You know, I

1186
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: just that's the time for me. That's like, that's that's it.

1187
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: Like I just I soak it up, man, And it

1188
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: really ticks me off when I have somewhere that I

1189
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: have to be and I just like I just decided,

1190
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna get a quick hunt in right here.

1191
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: And it really ticks me off when I'm successful on

1192
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: those quick hunts like that, because you don't get to

1193
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: really soak in that moment uh nearly as much, and

1194
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: so that kind of sucks whenever you're successful on those

1195
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: type of hunts. But when you don't have anywhere to

1196
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: be and you just you know, wife's not expecting you

1197
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: home until dark and you can just really just take

1198
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,959
Speaker 1: your time, it's just man, there's there's not much like it. Yeah,

1199
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: that that seems hard to beat. And uh man, that's

1200
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: what I was shooting for. That's what I was hoping.

1201
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: That was gooding to experience. And uh, I guess for

1202
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: the stake of speeding things up, I'll start moving us

1203
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: a little bit more through what happened from there, because

1204
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: we hunted that morning, I went back to camp, made

1205
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: a game plan for what I was gonna do after that,

1206
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,439
Speaker 1: and then we we separated and you were gonna go hunt,

1207
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: and your dad was gonna go hunt, and I was

1208
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: gonna go hunt, and we're all gonna go different directions.

1209
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: And that first evening I decided to go in the

1210
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,919
Speaker 1: same general direction as where we hunted the first day,

1211
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,479
Speaker 1: um or the first morning, but kind of the other

1212
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: side of it, and uh explore some different train that

1213
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: looked like there was one of these convergences of a

1214
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: kind of a cutting and some pine plantation stuff and

1215
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: then maybe some kind of field or old food plot

1216
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: on a neighboring private peace. I thought maybe that looked

1217
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: good with some ridges pinching into it. UM. Long story

1218
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 1: short on that one. As I walked up in there,

1219
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: boat across walked up in there, kind of scouted my

1220
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: way up to that area, and I didn't find much.

1221
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: Found a couple of little rubs and sat for the

1222
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: last part of the night, didn't see any deer. UM

1223
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: wasn't blown away with anything. The next morning, I was

1224
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: going to go back to the same general area, UM,

1225
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: because I did find a little zone that I thought, Man,

1226
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: it might be worth giving it one good morning hunt.

1227
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: And you told me that, for whatever reason, mornings are

1228
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: a lot better out there and there was some weather

1229
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: pushing through, so I thought it could be decent. So

1230
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: I thought, I'll go back to that spot in the

1231
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: morning and then scout and find my way to something

1232
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: new for the afternoon. But we woke up that morning

1233
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: and the same as what the forecast had been, there

1234
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: was a big storm blowing through in the chop. I mean,

1235
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: the wind pushing down the lake was more than I

1236
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: was expecting, and I remember thinking, man, is this kayak

1237
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: even gonna be able to make it up here? Because

1238
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: I was gonna have to go right into the wind

1239
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: across the main body of water, and it just seemed

1240
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: like that was gonna be quite an endeavor. And I

1241
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: can't remember if it was you, Parker or random one

1242
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: or the two of you, was like, Man, I don't

1243
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: know if you want to try to do that in

1244
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: that in that kayaking might be easier. Just go with

1245
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: the wind. Go this other general area looks pretty good.

1246
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: Try that. Um. I don't know who told me that,

1247
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: but whoever it was, that was enough to kind of

1248
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: push me in that direction, and um, that's what I did.

1249
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: We ended up going to a totally different area. Basically,

1250
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: this was a spot you we kind of looked at

1251
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: the maps together. Parkers you probably remember, and you said, hey,

1252
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: this is a decent general area. You know, there's a

1253
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: couple of good train features that you might like, and

1254
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: you know this is where you would want to take

1255
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: your boat into, and then from there you can figure

1256
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: it out. And so I took my boat up this

1257
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: little slew parts of the bottomless little Finger, and then

1258
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: worked my way up a point before daylight, and I

1259
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: got up on top of this point, and on the

1260
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: map you kind of see that this looked like, um,

1261
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: like a big half circle with a bunch of points

1262
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 1: coming off of this. I almost think of like a horseshoe,

1263
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: like an upside down horseshoe ridge, with little spur points

1264
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: dropping off into the bowl. So it's a little bit

1265
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: an amphitheater. And I was on a point that was

1266
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: right in the middle of this bowl looking down it,

1267
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: and then there were several other points that all converged

1268
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: right down beneath me, like uh, like a reverse turkey

1269
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: foot almost, And I thought, all right, well, if bucks

1270
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: are cruising right, this is the rut out there in

1271
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: southern or wherever nail Band we were. It was a

1272
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: late rut December ruts, So these bucks should be cruising

1273
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: if they're trying to get from point A to point B.

1274
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 1: A lot of different point as and b's that many

1275
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: of them might funnel down through this little convergence of

1276
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: these different points coming down. So I thought, hey, this

1277
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: has got potential. So I decided to sit there and

1278
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: see what happened. Big old storm came pushing through. I

1279
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 1: forgot to bring any kind of I brought my rain gear,

1280
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: but the camera guys that brought little tree umbrellas that

1281
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: they set up above their trees. So we're all sitting

1282
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: on the ground. There's me and two cameraman. They all

1283
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: had these little umbrellas over them. I had nothing, so

1284
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: I just kind of curled up in a ball and

1285
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: tightened down all my rain gear and just got pummeled

1286
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 1: for I don't know how many hours, several two or

1287
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: three hours or something like that, of just I mean

1288
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: a pretty darn serious storm. I mean that sucker came

1289
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: through hard and heavy and just dumped on us thunder

1290
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: and lightning, and and I was just sitting there trying

1291
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: to survive it. Um. I don't remember where you guys

1292
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: were at that point. I I don't know what I

1293
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 1: don't know what your hunting experience was, but we were.

1294
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:14,560
Speaker 1: I believe we were in town eating. We were there. Yeah,

1295
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: we did not go hunt that morning, you weren't. I

1296
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: think I woke up to alloud crack of thunder that

1297
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: was literally like it lit up the sky right like

1298
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: lit up our whole tent, and I look over at

1299
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: Dad and he kind of gave me that look like

1300
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: I'm not scared, but that was kind of scary, and

1301
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: uh and uh. I texted you, I said, hey, you

1302
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: guys alive, and then I didn't get anything back for

1303
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: like two hours. So y'all, ye could have been dead

1304
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: and we just never would have known. But um, yeah

1305
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: we did. We definitely didn't hunt that day. We props

1306
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: to you guys for going out that morning because we

1307
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: were kind of like, I don't really want to do that.

1308
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't the most one I've ever had, but it

1309
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: wasn't the worst. I guess. We we we sat out

1310
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: to the storm, and it actually almost worked out for

1311
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: me because I don't know, a couple hours into the storm,

1312
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: the rain was still coming down pretty good, but the

1313
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: thunder and lightning had passed, and I was just like

1314
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: rain and wind, and I remember looking down the point

1315
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden seeing a deer running down

1316
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: one of these one of these kind of spur ridges

1317
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 1: dropping down to the bottom some you know, dal and

1318
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: deal and buck coming down, Buck coming down. One of

1319
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: the camera was actually off going to the bathroom somewhere,

1320
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: so it's just me and Dalon and this deer comes

1321
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: tearing down to the bottom. I pulled my binoes looked

1322
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: down on the bottom and it's you know, pouring rain

1323
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: and windy, so it's hard to see, but I could see, like,

1324
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's a buck. And so that buck

1325
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: gets down to the bottom, he's probably two yards away

1326
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: something like that, and he's now running up the opposite side,

1327
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: and he's he's really moving. It's not he's he wasn't

1328
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: like spooked running, but he was like trotting along. And

1329
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: so I remember grabbing my gun, pulling off the scope covers,

1330
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: and then thinking to myself, Man, if he comes up

1331
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 1: this point on the left side of me, I'll be

1332
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: able to see him, but I gotta move, I gotta move.

1333
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 1: So I kind of crab walked like four or five

1334
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: yards to the left so i'd have a better view,

1335
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: and now I'm thinking, Okay, if he comes up this

1336
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: this ridge, it will be you know, within view, and

1337
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: I think i'd ranged in the past the far the

1338
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: second see was about a hundred and fifty five yards,

1339
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: and this is a this is a gun hunt, so

1340
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: I could shoot you know, off that far. And I

1341
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: remember thinking, if he comes anywhere along the front side

1342
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 1: of this ridge, I've got a shot. Well, he didn't

1343
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: come on the front. He came right on the top

1344
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: and kind of just over the other side. So there

1345
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: was moments where I'm trying to pick him out in

1346
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: between his thick woods, I'm trying to pick him out.

1347
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: I'd see him for a moment and then he'd be gone.

1348
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: And then I'd see him for a moment in my scope,

1349
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: but he'd be too far on the other side of

1350
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: the ridge side just see his head on the top

1351
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 1: of his back, and then he'd be on my set

1352
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: for half a second. And there just was never a

1353
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: moment when I could clearly see him in my scope

1354
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: and his vitals at the same time as he's just

1355
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: like cruising fast in this rain and wind. My scopes

1356
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, wet and foggy and all that stuff, and

1357
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: it was just like all that stuff made for a

1358
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 1: chaotic I don't know how long it was, thirty seconds

1359
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: or something, as this buck was running through there. Um,

1360
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: but it was enough to at least get my blood pumping.

1361
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: I saw my first buck of the trip, first deer

1362
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: of the trip, I guess, and you know, made that stormy,

1363
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 1: nasty sit a lot more palatable. Um, we're all excited

1364
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: and um. The rain eventually let up after that, and

1365
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think we sat there to like

1366
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,719
Speaker 1: one o'clock, and then at one I got to thinking, Man,

1367
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 1: we've seen that one deer. We've been here for I

1368
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: don't know, seven hours or something. Um, I've yet to

1369
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 1: see anything else around here. I hate to put too

1370
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: much time in a spot like this without, you know,

1371
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: having gotten a sense of what's around me. And so

1372
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: I decided, you know, I'm gonna take advantage of this

1373
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 1: wet leaf cover we have now in the wind and

1374
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: do a quick scout. I thought, all right, I'll do

1375
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: a midday scouting session. I'll make a loop, look at

1376
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: some stuff that I'm interested in on the map, and

1377
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: either confirmed that yes, I'm in the best out and

1378
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: come back here, or if I find something new along

1379
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 1: the way, you know, and then I can hunt that.

1380
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: I just wanted to learn. I didn't want to be

1381
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 1: hunting blind. So I looked at my map and found

1382
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: a couple of different spots where it looked like there

1383
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 1: were these edges that we talked about coming together. I

1384
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 1: remember seeing there was a spot where there was a

1385
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: horrid line of pines you could see, like planted pines.

1386
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know how old or young. I didn't know

1387
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: if it was thick or mature, but I knew like

1388
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: there was pines meeting mixed hardwoods, so that was an

1389
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: edge of interest. I saw another spot where that looked

1390
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: like thick brush, like maybe there's been some past clear

1391
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: cuts or something there. This is like thicker, nasty stuff

1392
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 1: that butted up against the hardwoods. And then I found

1393
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: two other spots like that, So I thought, all right,

1394
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 1: I'll circle up to the pine edge. From there, I'll

1395
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 1: take that edge to where it connects with this brushy

1396
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: looking stuff, and then from there I'll circle south to

1397
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: what looks like something else kind of along those lines.

1398
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 1: I just didn't know if this is like shrubby stuff

1399
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: or if this was trees. I don't know how old

1400
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: these cuts where I didn't know how old the arrow

1401
01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: imagery was. Um, so that's my kind of game plan

1402
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: for that loop. So we worked our way up, got

1403
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: to the mature pine edge, and I saw that it

1404
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: was not too mature, like it wasn't big hard it

1405
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: wasn't like big old pines. These were I don't know

1406
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: what the h B fifteen years old maybe something like that,

1407
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 1: enough that you couldn't walk through them easily. You couldn't

1408
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: see through them easy. It was. They were tight, it

1409
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: was thick, it was low like good betting. And I'm thinking, man, okay,

1410
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: this is this is a good thing. Found a couple

1411
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: of rubs are on that edge. Kept working that edge

1412
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: another quarter mile or something like that, and then I

1413
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,679
Speaker 1: got to something that didn't show up on the map.

1414
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 1: I got to hear and there was a bridge coming

1415
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: up to that hard pine edge. But then where that

1416
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: ridge connected with the hard pine ridge or sorry hard

1417
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: pine edge, was a clear cut on the neighboring private land,

1418
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: like a big old open clear cut where they cut

1419
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: it probably the year prior. I'd say, this is like

1420
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: a one year old clear cut, so you could see

1421
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: across it. There was a lot of like low brushy

1422
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: cover um, but you know, nothing over waist high probably,

1423
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: so there's this big open brushy I assume there'd be

1424
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, some good food out there. Now you've got

1425
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: this very distinct edge between the pines and that there's

1426
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 1: a distinct edge between that in the hardwoods. And I

1427
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 1: was walking along in the line of then there's the

1428
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 1: spur ridge that's coming into that, so you've got that

1429
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: terrain feature. And then I got to the top of

1430
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: that ridge and on the other side of it was

1431
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: one of those older cuts that I've seen on the map,

1432
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: and that was like a I don't know, five year old,

1433
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: ten year old cut of some kind where really shrubby, brushy,

1434
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: nasty stuff, and some like young pines that were you know,

1435
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, a little overhead high that kind of stuff,

1436
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 1: like really thick nasty. So you've got four one, two, yeah,

1437
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: basically four different terrain or have kind of cover types,

1438
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: all converging right where these two ridges came together too.

1439
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, this is like bing bang boom.

1440
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: This is an absolute perfect example that X marks the

1441
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 1: spot type situation you were describing Parker. And then as

1442
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: I'm seeing these things and identifying these things, and I'm

1443
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: walking along, I'm saying, look, there's a rub, there's a rub,

1444
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: there's a scrape. And I hadn't seen any sign almost

1445
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: anywhere else the whole, the whole, the rest of the

1446
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: time I've been out there, right, and now all of

1447
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 1: a sudden were these edges. I'll come together, here's all

1448
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,719
Speaker 1: this sign popping up. And I did a little circle

1449
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: around there a little bit more, just to check things out.

1450
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 1: I found ended up finally fifteen scrapes in this general zone,

1451
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: six or seven rubs and all right. Then I said, okay,

1452
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 1: this is by far the best thing I've seen as

1453
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: I've walked all around here. Um, this has everything that

1454
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: I think should pull deer in here. And I'm not

1455
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 1: at this point. I you know, as I subscribed, wasn't

1456
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 1: trying to kill a big, giant buck. So it wasn't

1457
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: like I was looking for a huge track or monster

1458
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: rub or something like that. This is simply like, is

1459
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 1: this kind of place that deer would likely be moving through.

1460
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different edges coming together. It's the rut.

1461
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 1: Would a buck be passing through here? I sure as

1462
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: heck would think. So you've got a couple of spots

1463
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 1: that probably could be deal betting. There's a couple of

1464
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: spots where there might be deer feeding. There's all these

1465
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: edges that are probably travel corridors, possible pinch points of

1466
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: those terrain features. I was sold. So sat there that afternoon.

1467
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,560
Speaker 1: I didn't see a deer, but that was okay. I figured, um,

1468
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,759
Speaker 1: I figured it was worth coming back to the next morning.

1469
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: So that was day two. The next day, the next

1470
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 1: day was a third day of our trip, not counting

1471
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:36,799
Speaker 1: our first night. Voted back there, me and my two Cameron,

1472
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: Dylan and Bob. We slipped up this initial ridge. We

1473
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 1: we accessed by the same route we did the first day.

1474
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: So we voted down that slough, came up this ridge,

1475
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: circled around up this little draw to get to the

1476
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: ridge where I was sitting the first night. I'm sorry

1477
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: that that second night get set up again. We're just

1478
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 1: sitting on the ground. And this is probably worth noting.

1479
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 1: This is something that you know, you had talked Parker

1480
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: about how you often like to hunting the saddle, like

1481
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: to get up high, and so I brought my saddle,

1482
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: I brought my climbing sticks, and I thought, yeah, very well,

1483
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: might do that. But as I started like seeing the

1484
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: area and getting a sense of it and knowing that

1485
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: I had a gun, I ended up making the decision

1486
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: that I would prefer to hunt from the ground because

1487
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: what it did for me, at least in this early

1488
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: exploratory phase, was it gave me the ability to quickly adjust, right.

1489
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: I mean, in a moment's time, I could adjust. Because

1490
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: when you're going up in with sticks in the saddle,

1491
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: even though that's more mobile than any other tree, you know,

1492
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 1: tree stand type hunt, that's as mobile as you can get,

1493
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: it's still quite an investment of time energy, not to

1494
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 1: mention when you've got two other guys that need to

1495
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: get up in a tree with camera gear too. And

1496
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: I knew that if we made the investment in time

1497
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: to get up in a tree like that, we're kind

1498
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 1: of stuck there. You know. It's hard to get out

1499
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: of that situation and make a bunch of moves. Um.

1500
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: I imagine if we had done that that first day,

1501
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: it would have been a lot harder decision to pull

1502
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: everything down and go scout midday. You know. So with

1503
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 1: a gun, I knew, like I've got more range, I'm

1504
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 1: not so worried about a deer seeing me beforehand, because

1505
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm not setting myself up right on top of where

1506
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna travel. I wasn't setting up twenty

1507
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,719
Speaker 1: yards from those edges. I was setting up a hundred

1508
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 1: yards from those edges. So I would see any deer

1509
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: well before it would see me. Hopefully I have the

1510
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 1: range to get a shot at it, and I preserve

1511
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 1: the ability to make any little adjustment I needed. I

1512
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: could stand up and shoot. I could stand up and

1513
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: walk ten yards and get in the better shot. You know,

1514
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: I could do anything like that, and that ended up

1515
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 1: being super helpful. I mean I had to do that

1516
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: during the storm buck encounter. I had to make a

1517
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: five yard move to get you know, even to be

1518
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: able to see this deer. Now that midday, I got

1519
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 1: up scouted found new area that first morning. Now, in

1520
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 1: this location I'm describing, we all sat down against trees

1521
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: up on this ridge. We can see down to will

1522
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: where all these edges come together. And about forty five

1523
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: minutes an hour after daylight, here comes a buck working

1524
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 1: right along that hard pine edge, that thick, nasty pine edge.

1525
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 1: Remember seeing the buck, I stood up, I tried to

1526
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: get my gun rested against the side of the tree.

1527
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: It was first buck was like a little forky I think,

1528
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: but then like right behind it there was a bigger buck,

1529
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: a six pointer. If it had brown, I could never

1530
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 1: see if it at broad times, so it might have

1531
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 1: been an eight. Uh, it might have been a two

1532
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: year old possibly, But I remember thinking, all right, I'm

1533
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: gonna take a crack at this buck, the first one

1534
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: I would have, And then when I saw a second one,

1535
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm gonna try to get a

1536
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: shot this second buck. But from where I was sitting

1537
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: and at this point standing, they were visible for just

1538
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 1: like a couple of seconds dropping down into this bottom,

1539
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 1: and then they disappeared the hill, disappeared behind the hill

1540
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: as they were coming up my ridge. And the problem

1541
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: that I didn't realize at the time was as soon

1542
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 1: as they would get to the top of the ridge

1543
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 1: where I'd be able to shoot at them, they were

1544
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 1: buying these thick, nasty pines and only popped out for

1545
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: like a split second before going further into the cover.

1546
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: They didn't walk on the outside of this. This is

1547
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to describe, but as I as I mentioned,

1548
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: there was like the the first pine edge, and then

1549
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: there's the clear cut, and then there's like the newer um,

1550
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: the newer pines. They were traversing the edge of the

1551
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: old pines and then coming across to the new pines,

1552
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 1: but instead of going on the outside edge of the

1553
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: new pines, they went right into them. And we're like

1554
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: five yards into him, and I couldn't shoot through that.

1555
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: There's just so much junk. So that first buck popped through,

1556
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 1: and you know, it was out of my view before

1557
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: even really having a chance to range him or get

1558
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: any idea if i'd get a shot. But I knew, like, okay,

1559
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 1: that's where the next buck is probably gonna pop up.

1560
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: So I just put my scope there and was waiting,

1561
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: and sure enough he popped out. But I mean he

1562
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: was in and out of my opening in a moment

1563
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: before i'd even have a chance to get the scope

1564
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: on him, clearly get a good idea if it was

1565
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: a good shot, anything like that. So he was in

1566
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: and out of my life very quickly, and was in

1567
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 1: that brush and you could still see his antlers moving around.

1568
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: You could see him, but not any kind of clear

1569
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: shot opportunity. And then they disappeared. So that was that

1570
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 1: it was great that I saw these two bucks. I

1571
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: was excited, but disappointed that I couldn't get a crack

1572
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: at him. Now, I've seen three different bucks on public

1573
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 1: land that I potentially could have shot at, but not

1574
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: any one of them was able to actually get a clear,

1575
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 1: good you know, a good shot opportunity. So in my mind,

1576
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, man, like, I gotta I gotta take advantage

1577
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 1: of one of these encounters. I've had these opportunities, like

1578
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 1: I take advantage. And now on a half hour later,

1579
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: here comes four doors. They did the exact same thing

1580
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 1: that those two bucks did, come down that hard edge,

1581
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: work their way down to the bottom, up the ridge

1582
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 1: into the pines. So I'm feeling good about this setup

1583
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm in, but now I know, okay, this is a

1584
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: second group of deer that followed that same edge, and

1585
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: I just don't have many good shot opportunities. It was

1586
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: like so brief, these little tiny windows. So this is

1587
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 1: where sitting on the ground really ppped out. I just said,

1588
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna move. We're just gonna bump up.

1589
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: As I told the guys, all ight, I'm gonna shift

1590
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: like thirty forty yards down the ridge to get a

1591
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: little bit closer to this, and to have a little

1592
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,839
Speaker 1: bit better vantage point to see down to this bottom,

1593
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: so that I could see them not only when they're

1594
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: in the edge, but also when they dropped down, and

1595
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: then also see them for a longer period of time

1596
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: if they came up the opposite ridge by the new pines.

1597
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: So I'm still watching my three points all coming together,

1598
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 1: just from a slightly different elevation and a slightly different angle.

1599
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 1: And we were able to stand up, walk thirty forty

1600
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 1: yards down, sit down again, and be in this new

1601
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 1: spot with a new vantage point in one minute versus

1602
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 1: the who knows half hour forty five minutes it would

1603
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: have taken to tear everything down, walk over there, set

1604
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: everything back up, Especially when you've got all those cameras

1605
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 1: and stuff they bring, it's a nightmare. So this, uh,

1606
01:23:51,280 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: this worked out well. Well, you know, I guess at

1607
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 1: that point there was one other thing interesting that happened.

1608
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: I had made my move, I'd shifted down there. It's

1609
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 1: now later in the morning, and I remember looking at

1610
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: my phone and getting a text from you, Parker. You

1611
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: had some news for me. Do you want to describe

1612
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: what happened to you at that point. Yeah, I had

1613
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: a great morning that morning. Um it was really uh

1614
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: like I don't know that you mentioned it before, but

1615
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 1: we had had hot weather the two days. The first

1616
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: two days it was like seven degrees really warm, and

1617
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 1: we finally got a cold front that pushed through that

1618
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: day and so I really felt like dear after that

1619
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 1: storm system blew through, the cold front started coming in. Um,

1620
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: I really felt like we had a good chance that morning,

1621
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 1: so I kind of went into a high odds type area.

1622
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: The wind was gonna be perfect for it, and uh,

1623
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 1: I was able to shoot probably the biggest buck I've

1624
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 1: killed the season. Uh, that's that same morning that you

1625
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 1: where you had all the encounters. It was really nice, heavy,

1626
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 1: heavy mass eight point and I saw I guess he

1627
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 1: was the tenth deer that I saw that morning. It's

1628
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 1: just really good rud activity Bucks small Bucks chasing. Does

1629
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: I think it was about nine nine or nine thirty

1630
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 1: that I killed him, And uh, it was it was cool. Ben.

1631
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:36,879
Speaker 1: I mean so you uh you you kind of mentioned

1632
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: you know where we've we've really kind of talked about

1633
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 1: uh subtle terrain features going into these uh convergence of

1634
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 1: habitat types and it was it was really almost an

1635
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,640
Speaker 1: identical setup to that first morning. The spot that we

1636
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 1: went into that first morning, there's a a clear cut

1637
01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: um that meets some pines on private and then hardwoods

1638
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 1: on the public side, with a with a very subtle

1639
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 1: draw that goes right up into that into that convergence

1640
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: habitat types. And so all the deer were either coming

1641
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 1: out of that or going up into that. And uh,

1642
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 1: obviously that time of year, some of the doughs were hot,

1643
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: and so there was I had a spike come through

1644
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: just grunting and you know, carried along and then right

1645
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: at nine I can't remember that one was at nine

1646
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,799
Speaker 1: or nine thirty. It was fairly late in the morning, though. Uh.

1647
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:35,640
Speaker 1: He came down, came out of it, came out of

1648
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 1: the the convergence, and was going downhill in that that

1649
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 1: little subtle draw chasing or uh sent nose to the

1650
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: ground on one of those hot dough trails, and uh,

1651
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 1: I was able to shoot him right there. I mean

1652
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 1: it was I could have shot him with the bow

1653
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 1: probably it was like thirty yards away man, as it

1654
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 1: was a nice buck and you and no, I can't

1655
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 1: remember because I was busy with all my drama that day.

1656
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 1: Did you meet up with your dad and recover him together?

1657
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: Did you bring him back to camp? Like? How did

1658
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 1: that all go down? So Dad actually, uh brought his

1659
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: his bass tracker with a fifty horsepower mercury on it. So, um,

1660
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 1: while y'all were there, I decided to retire the kayak

1661
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: for that week and hunt with Dad using the boat

1662
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: because it was just a little bit easier and I

1663
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 1: was able to get back into some of these spots

1664
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: that I don't get to hunt just a ton with

1665
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 1: my kayak, and that was one of those spots. Uh.

1666
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 1: And so Dad came and dropped me off that morning.

1667
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 1: He you know, it took me up, dropped me off,

1668
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: and he went back and hunted man, not as the

1669
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: crow file is not very far away from where you

1670
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 1: were at, but kind of in that same general area, uh,

1671
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: spot that we call kill Hill where we've killed a

1672
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 1: lot of killed a lot of bucks at. So Dad

1673
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 1: came back and hunted that area. And then when I shot,

1674
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 1: I believe he had. Dad, you had some deer around you, right,

1675
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 1: so you you weren't able to come right there? Yeah,

1676
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 1: I had. I had some deer that were just my

1677
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 1: fifteen yards from me. But there was a couple of doughs,

1678
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 1: but and I was hoping a buck would come out

1679
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 1: on him, but he didn't. But but yeah, I was.

1680
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 1: I guess I was probably a mile and a half

1681
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 1: from where you were at. Yeah. For a matter fact,

1682
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 1: when you shot, I thought it was marked. I texted

1683
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: you and said, I think Mark just just just took

1684
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 1: some shots. I don't know why. I guess the wind

1685
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:40,799
Speaker 1: direction that day was just bringing in that that sound.

1686
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 1: But you worked long ways away from Yeah. Yeah, it

1687
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: was kind of weird, um because you, I texted, said

1688
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: big buck down or something like that, and you said,

1689
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 1: I think Mark just shot one two. He shot three times,

1690
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 1: and I was like, well I just shot three times.

1691
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, but he uh So Dad ended up coming

1692
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: around eleven o'clock and we drug it off, jug it

1693
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 1: off the mountain. So funny, it was a funny thing

1694
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:13,959
Speaker 1: that happened right then because uh there was another guy

1695
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: apparently that had also been dropped off on the same

1696
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 1: mountain by another guy in the boat. So there was

1697
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 1: zero boats parked in the spot and two guys hunting

1698
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: it um and neither one of us knew that the

1699
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: other was there. And so when we come dragging that

1700
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 1: deer down off the mountain. We ended up walking dragging

1701
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 1: that deer, I mean, right underneath this dude. Uh, and

1702
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 1: with really no way of knowing that anybody else was

1703
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 1: up there, um, which I mean I had been up

1704
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 1: there talking to my camera and me and Dad had

1705
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 1: been talking the whole time. So it wasn't like, I mean,

1706
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 1: that guy's hunt was ruined probably a long time before

1707
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: we walked underneath there, but it was. That was a

1708
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 1: kind of funny thing, and it was really one of

1709
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 1: the first times that that's ever happened to me out there,

1710
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 1: of running into anybody the else hunting. So um. But yeah,

1711
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: it was cool. So we went back to camp, had

1712
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: our celebratory ball of fruity pebbles and pebbles. Yeah, you guys,

1713
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 1: you guys are enjoying yourselves. They're celebrating. I was celebrating

1714
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 1: with you virtually. I was excited, but I had a

1715
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:24,839
Speaker 1: long day head. I remember hearing about that, and then

1716
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: that was very soon after, like mid day, when I said, Okay,

1717
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 1: it's kind of breaking some snacks and me the guys,

1718
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 1: so we're eating our lunches, eating I don't know, chips,

1719
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 1: and hostess treats and all that kind of stuff. And

1720
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 1: I remember we got into like the mid day crazies

1721
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 1: where it must have been like one something one, and

1722
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 1: we've been there a long time and it just kinda

1723
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 1: worn on us. So I think at this point, I

1724
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 1: was eating an apple and thinking to myself, Man, these

1725
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 1: poor camera guys. They've got to wear headphones to monitor

1726
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:01,639
Speaker 1: my audio. And I just thought to myself, man, these

1727
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 1: poor guys are sitting here listening to be chomp on

1728
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 1: an apple in their in their heads, like every time

1729
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 1: I eat anything, it's just crunching in their minds, like

1730
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: they must just hate me so much. And I remember

1731
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 1: looking at them and like saying like, I'm sorry, guys.

1732
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 1: It s must be really annoying, isn't it. And then

1733
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm like we should have some fun with this, and

1734
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 1: so I was like, all right, let's play a game.

1735
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 1: So you know, you gotta you gotta do a little

1736
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 1: something to spice things up out there sometimes with the

1737
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 1: with the crew, So I start humming songs quietly, but

1738
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 1: in their headphones they can hear it very well. And

1739
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 1: so for like ten minutes, I'm humming different songs and

1740
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 1: they're trying to guess what song it is. And then

1741
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:36,600
Speaker 1: we're like we're cracking up now, sitting there like a

1742
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 1: couple of schoolgirls underneath trees, humming to each other, trying

1743
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 1: to guess the songs. And then all of a sudden, like, oh,

1744
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 1: there's a deer, and coming down the ridge behind me,

1745
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 1: coming down into that bottom towards the pine edge is

1746
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 1: a buck. Pulp my bino. See it's a buck. See

1747
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 1: it's a shooter. This is like a tighter and taller

1748
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 1: buck than the other ones. We saw what I thought

1749
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 1: was like maybe a two year old, and and you know,

1750
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 1: so right away I'm getting into position. I remember grabbing

1751
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 1: my gun. They're getting into position. I kneel and lean

1752
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 1: my gun against this tree for stability. I think I

1753
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 1: was kneeling. Did I stand for this one? I can't remember. Um,

1754
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 1: but this buck comes is coming down a hill and

1755
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 1: he stopped, and he stopped right between two trees, and

1756
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 1: I can just see between these two trees, like I

1757
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 1: can see like a four inch window maybe I don't know,

1758
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: very very very small window between these two trees. And

1759
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 1: I remember that's when I was able to get my

1760
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 1: binoculars and see what he was. And remember at this moment,

1761
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, this bo is not getting away, Like

1762
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 1: I've had three different bucks come through haven't been don

1763
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 1: get a good clear shot through the trees and all

1764
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 1: the movement and stuff, and this time like, there's no

1765
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 1: way I'm not going to shoot this buck. So I

1766
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 1: remember thinking, like, you're gonna make this work. So that

1767
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:51,879
Speaker 1: buck stood there for a while. I watched him. Everyone's

1768
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 1: in position, He's I don't know, a hundred and fifty

1769
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 1: yards something like that away, but kind of angling towards me,

1770
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 1: maybe last maybe a hundred yards something like that. And

1771
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:03,639
Speaker 1: sure enough, he eventually started moving again. After he stood

1772
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 1: there for a long time. I don't know if he

1773
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 1: heard us or just was doing that kind of thing

1774
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 1: the bucks do where they stopped and just taking their surroundings.

1775
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 1: But eventually started moving again. And he's dropping down this

1776
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 1: hill and he moves down almost to the very bottom.

1777
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 1: And there was a couple of times where I I'm

1778
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,639
Speaker 1: trying to remember what specifically I was using my rifle,

1779
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 1: and this was a rife, so I had my rifle,

1780
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 1: so I must have like clicked off my safety. I

1781
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 1: feel like I have this memory of clicking off my

1782
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: safety and telling the guys are gonna take a shot.

1783
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 1: And then he started moving again, and now he stopped

1784
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 1: a second time, and this time he stopped and again

1785
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:41,599
Speaker 1: he's behind trees. But I remember seeing him and seeing

1786
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 1: him stop behind the trees and then thinking to myself, well,

1787
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 1: that's the back of his front leg right there. So

1788
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 1: what i'm seeing this opening, I'm seeing that's the vitals.

1789
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 1: So if I put it right there, even though I

1790
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 1: couldn't see his front part and I couldn't see his

1791
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 1: back part, like I'm looking at his vitals because I

1792
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:57,640
Speaker 1: could just catch the edge of his legs, I'm like,

1793
01:33:57,680 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 1: all right, that's it. I can take this shot through

1794
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 1: this gap. And again, I'm not not going to get

1795
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 1: a shot of this deer, is what I've been telling myself.

1796
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 1: So I lined up and took the shot, and he

1797
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 1: blasts out there, running, racking another shell. And he's not

1798
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 1: you know, he's not looking hit. He's running off at

1799
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 1: the same time. You know, sometimes you just don't know

1800
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 1: in the heat of the moment. But I'm like, man,

1801
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 1: he's still going pretty good. Why is he going? So

1802
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 1: I just kept waiting for him to show a sign

1803
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 1: of being hit, and he didn't, so he got up

1804
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 1: the other side of this ridge, and I had been

1805
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 1: trying to get back on him, and I would get

1806
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 1: back on him and I squeeze off another round, but

1807
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 1: nothing happens. There's just like no shot, nothing, and then

1808
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 1: he runs off and I then look on I try

1809
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: to rack that shell out and for whatever reason, I

1810
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 1: still don't know what caused it, but it never racked

1811
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 1: a shell. And when I when I tried to UM

1812
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 1: put another one in there for that second shot. So

1813
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: something happened got jammed up in some kind of way.

1814
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 1: So I took a shot and had no round in there,

1815
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 1: no round to be able to actually take advantage of

1816
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 1: that second round. And so there's there's all that, and

1817
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I don't know did I

1818
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 1: miss it? Did I get a bad hit on it?

1819
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 1: Why did he run off the way he ran off?

1820
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 1: I asked the caraman, like, man, let's look and see

1821
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 1: what happened here. UM, just a lot of uncertainty, as

1822
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 1: oftentimes it can be when those things happened fast and

1823
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:25,519
Speaker 1: crazy like that. To make a long story short, we

1824
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 1: look at the footage, it doesn't look like there's an impact. UM,

1825
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 1: But at the same time he jumped. You never know,

1826
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 1: So we're gonna go down there and look. We go

1827
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,679
Speaker 1: down there to the shot of the site, and within

1828
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: moments of getting to where I thought that buck was,

1829
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 1: I said, oh, I know what happened. And right there

1830
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 1: on that tree that he was standing behind, on the

1831
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 1: last inch on the outside, there's the hole in the tree,

1832
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 1: and my bullet lodged into the tree. If I had

1833
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 1: been an inch and a half to the right, it

1834
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: would have been perfect dead deer. But instead my bullet

1835
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 1: found an Alabama oak tree. And uh that shot. Lots

1836
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 1: of those shot mini Alabama oaks and they don't taste good,

1837
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 1: but know this one didn't. So I was pretty bummed out,

1838
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 1: super bummed out. Um, you know, just just was very disheartening.

1839
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 1: But we walked in the can I jump in here

1840
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 1: just for please, I'm sorry to jump in, but you

1841
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 1: say you shot one of those Alabama oak trees. I

1842
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 1: have happened to shoot the same oak tree twice, so uh,

1843
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 1: I that's video footage of that that Parker has, uh

1844
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 1: did the same tree twice, So I'm sorry. I just

1845
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 1: didn't sill that in. I do feel better, thank you.

1846
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 1: That makes me feel a little better for sure. Yeah,

1847
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, there's a bunch of them out there, and uh,

1848
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 1: I have not. I didn't have one suck on this,

1849
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 1: not one deer that was taking its time. That was

1850
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,799
Speaker 1: the rut, So I mean that's not too terribly uncommon.

1851
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 1: But all the deer I saw on this trip were

1852
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 1: cruising fast, even the doughs, like there was nothing lollygagging around,

1853
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 1: there was nothing enabling its way along, there was nothing

1854
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 1: taking its time sniffing like. Everything was on the move. Um.

1855
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's unique or if that's how

1856
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 1: they always are out here, or if it was just

1857
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 1: because of the rut, but I mean there was no

1858
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 1: slow shot opportunities. Everything was progressing very quickly and um,

1859
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 1: and I just had to try to take advantage when

1860
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 1: I could and didn't work out. But that one, that

1861
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 1: one stung. We went up back to the top of

1862
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 1: the ridge and I remember telling guy as well, you know,

1863
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't what any of us wanted. Sorry guys. But

1864
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 1: on the bright side, we did just see another buck.

1865
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 1: We've seen three bucks come through cruising there here, so

1866
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,719
Speaker 1: at least the spot's good. Uh, let's see if anything

1867
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 1: else would do it. And uh, we got set back

1868
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 1: in the same spots. Uh. I just remember sitting there,

1869
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:08,879
Speaker 1: just kind of kind of in my own head, knocking

1870
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 1: myself up the head and thinking like, what could have

1871
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 1: done differently? Should he wait until he cleared those trees,

1872
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 1: or just you know, should you have aimed a little

1873
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 1: bit further back knowing that you had more you know,

1874
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 1: more give or more more forgiveness. If I would have

1875
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:24,800
Speaker 1: aimed a little bit further back on the lungs instead

1876
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 1: of rapped towards the heart, like you should have done that?

1877
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 1: Why did you aim close to there? And did you

1878
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 1: pull the shot? You know, all that kind of stuff

1879
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:33,800
Speaker 1: you do after a bad shot. Um. But as I'm

1880
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 1: doing all that, I remember sitting there and I just

1881
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 1: remember hearing this from across the way, and instantly it

1882
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 1: was like that was leaves, like scraping leaves. And I

1883
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 1: looked across the way. And then and as I hear

1884
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 1: that noise out this time, I see a leg like

1885
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 1: a big black thing moving sure enough across that ridge,

1886
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 1: the same ridge that buck had ran across and up

1887
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 1: out of he'd and you know the one I hit

1888
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 1: the tree on, he ran up this other ridge and

1889
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 1: went into those that hard mature pine edge. Well, now

1890
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:10,439
Speaker 1: coming off of that same ridge, here's a buck again

1891
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 1: across the way and he's making a scrape. So this

1892
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 1: is at three something o'clock, somewhere in that three o'clock hour,

1893
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 1: if I remember right. So, holy crap, this is buck

1894
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 1: number four coming through here. Tell the guys we get

1895
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 1: a buck over the let's getting position. I remember grabbing

1896
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 1: my backpack, moving to the other side of the tree

1897
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:30,640
Speaker 1: and putting my backpack on the ground in front of me.

1898
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 1: This time, I'm sitting on my butt, my knees up,

1899
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:35,599
Speaker 1: and I put the backpack in between my two knees.

1900
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 1: And my backpack that I was using was like a

1901
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 1: bigger framed backpack, so I had like a hard top.

1902
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 1: So I remember thinking, this is going to give me

1903
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: a better steady aiming position. I popped my gun up

1904
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:51,800
Speaker 1: on that look at this little buck and it was

1905
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:56,719
Speaker 1: a seven pointer, nothing big, but a seven pointer and

1906
01:39:57,080 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 1: a buck I was gonna shoot. So I remember seeing

1907
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 1: the uck, knowing he was probably generally arranged, but he

1908
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 1: was moving again. He made that scrape, but not before

1909
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 1: I was able to get in position. Now he's working

1910
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 1: down his way towards me and to make a long

1911
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 1: story short. He works his way down almost to the

1912
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:16,760
Speaker 1: bottom until he finally stops and turns. He turns broadside.

1913
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 1: I tell the guys, all right, here we go. I

1914
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 1: pop it off safety and then he spins and starts

1915
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 1: going the other way again. And I remember thinking, okay,

1916
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: do I do? I wait? He'd spun almost a d

1917
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 1: eighty degrees around, starts going the other way. No, I

1918
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 1: was going away from me. And then he turned and

1919
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 1: kind of opened up. He was quartering away and opened

1920
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 1: it up enough, and I thought, okay, and there's all

1921
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 1: these trees down there. It's just like he's in and

1922
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 1: out and in and out of available shooting lanes. Just

1923
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 1: when he turned quartering away, I said, all right, that's it.

1924
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:52,560
Speaker 1: Took the shot this time. You can see instantly he

1925
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 1: had been hit. But it wasn't like the pile driving

1926
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:57,679
Speaker 1: hit where he where's like front legs drop and he's

1927
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,600
Speaker 1: like a snow plow. Uh. This was like hit and

1928
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 1: jumped straight up, spun backwards, and then went running off

1929
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:07,719
Speaker 1: the direction that the first buck had come from, off

1930
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 1: to our right up and over this hill, just tearing

1931
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 1: out of there. Definitely hit, definitely hit hard, but didn't

1932
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 1: see him drop within sight. Uh again, not sure of

1933
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 1: you know exactly where the shot was. Look at the footage.

1934
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 1: The footage shows that the hit was further back and

1935
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 1: then where I wanted, And I thought I'd be a

1936
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 1: little bit. I wanted to be a little bit back.

1937
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:30,679
Speaker 1: Is that quartering away angle? But this is further back

1938
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 1: than that. So we wait, I don't know, not as

1939
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 1: long as we should have. But an hour something after that,

1940
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 1: we're like, well, let's just go look for blood and

1941
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 1: see what the situation is. And it it did look

1942
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 1: like when he ran off, he got over this little

1943
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 1: rise and it just looked like he was about to

1944
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 1: topple over. He was definitely hurting. So we go over there,

1945
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 1: don't find a lot of blood, but you can see

1946
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 1: pretty somewhat clearly where it looks like he kicked up

1947
01:41:56,439 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 1: the leaves and was running. So I felt ray to

1948
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 1: this thing that all of us are tempting to do sometimes,

1949
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 1: I think, which is you just want to see that

1950
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 1: dead deer, like you just want it to be done.

1951
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 1: You want to know that you got him. And I

1952
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 1: missed that deer earlier in the day. So I was

1953
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 1: had this like overwhelming like, oh, no, not like another thing,

1954
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 1: not go right. I just gotta find him. I want

1955
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 1: that feel good. I need to feel good. What I

1956
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:22,800
Speaker 1: should have done is I should have said, all right,

1957
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 1: the shot wasn't perfect, um, but he's gonna die. Let's

1958
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 1: just get out of here and wait longer. But instead

1959
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 1: I was like, let's just let's just look over this

1960
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 1: next hill, and sure enough, we go over that next

1961
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 1: hill and bump the buck. He had not gone down yet,

1962
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 1: goes kind of running shuffling off. This is now at

1963
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 1: right at dark, so I can't go any further. Um.

1964
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 1: I was able to see that it was the buck

1965
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 1: going off, but couldn't get another shot at that point.

1966
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's back out, give this deer a little

1967
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 1: more time and to to take you know, seven hours,

1968
01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:59,679
Speaker 1: and compressed it into thirty seconds. We went back to camp,

1969
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 1: met up with you guys, had dinner, hung out. Parker.

1970
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 1: You had a buddy who has a tracking dog, and

1971
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 1: he was excited about going out and doing this. So

1972
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:10,680
Speaker 1: I thought, well, why not bring him out here just

1973
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 1: to be in the safe side. It hasn't been a

1974
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 1: good blood trail. Let's get him out here and just

1975
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,719
Speaker 1: be sure that we find this deer. And so late

1976
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 1: that night, your buddy came out, hopped in the boat,

1977
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 1: drove over this place, hiked up to the top of

1978
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 1: this hill, went to where the shot site was. He

1979
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 1: brings his two dogs. They go tearing down the trail

1980
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 1: and easy is pie, I mean so easy. Those dogs

1981
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 1: walked right up on that buck, not I don't know,

1982
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 1: eighty yards from where I last saw him, and uh,

1983
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 1: I found me my Alabama public land buck dead as

1984
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:45,640
Speaker 1: a door knob. It was. That was cool, man, that

1985
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:49,560
Speaker 1: was such a cool moment. And uh, I remember I

1986
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 1: remember at first when those dogs got on the trail,

1987
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,760
Speaker 1: on the track, we got up there and dogs tore

1988
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 1: off into one direction and you said, uh, that's not

1989
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 1: the direction at all that the deer went. And I

1990
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:07,760
Speaker 1: could sense the like, oh man, we're not finding this deer.

1991
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 1: That was kind of in your face, um, because the

1992
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 1: dogs went just completely different. But what Justin said, Uh,

1993
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 1: he was just as a tracker. Justin Moser, super good,

1994
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 1: good guy, and he's got great dogs. He's like, Hey,

1995
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 1: it's okay. They're just working it out. They're they're just

1996
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 1: getting their bearings. They're just these the they're not going

1997
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:32,120
Speaker 1: necessarily on blood they're going on scent. He's got one

1998
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 1: dog that's more of a ground scent dog and another

1999
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 1: dog that's more of a wind scent dog, and they

2000
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 1: just work out. They work it out together. And but

2001
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:44,000
Speaker 1: I could definitely tell, like there was a moment of oh, man,

2002
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 1: they're not even going the right direction. And then and

2003
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 1: then on that GPS he said, well, they're really hanging

2004
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 1: out in this one area. They usually won't do that

2005
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 1: unless unless they found something. And I remember you, Mark,

2006
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 1: you looked over and you kind of said, well, fingers

2007
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 1: crossed it. And sure enough, man, I mean, I mean,

2008
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 1: what did it take like five minutes for them dogs

2009
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 1: to find that deer? So fast? So quick? Yeah, it's quick.

2010
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 1: They're amazing. I've got a buddy in Michigan who has one,

2011
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 1: and so often times, you know, any time I shoot

2012
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:19,120
Speaker 1: a deer and we're not in a rush, I'll call

2013
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 1: him over just to give the dog practice and just

2014
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 1: to see it go. And it's so cool to see

2015
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 1: how they work and that they are really incredible animals

2016
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 1: what they can do, and a great tool to have

2017
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 1: as a deer run it, that's for sure. In this case,

2018
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't a good blood trail. Um. So

2019
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 1: they definitely shortened our night. You know, we would have

2020
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 1: been probably walking circles trying to find that deer um,

2021
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 1: but they went right to it. So it was great.

2022
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 1: And I think I think a lot of people get

2023
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:45,639
Speaker 1: really that that's something that I thought was a really

2024
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 1: cool thing for you in the South because like tracking

2025
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 1: dogs down here, most of the time, they don't cost anything, Like,

2026
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 1: they don't ask for any money. The guys just like

2027
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 1: doing it, but you give them tips and stuff, and

2028
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 1: so it's pretty good. But um, it's a really it's

2029
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: pretty popular done here for guys to have tracking dogs,

2030
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 1: and so it made the whole experience. You know, you

2031
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 1: got your nice Southern experience. Nobody wants to call a

2032
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 1: tracking dog. But you think of it this way, like,

2033
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:17,519
Speaker 1: you know that shot was far back right, um, and

2034
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:22,520
Speaker 1: we probably could have found that deer the next morning. Uh,

2035
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 1: you know, you get five guys on that. I mean,

2036
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't that far from where you were at. We

2037
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 1: probably could have found it. But that's five six, seven

2038
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 1: hours longer that that deer is just basically sitting there

2039
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 1: and the meats just running with every hour. Um, the

2040
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 1: dogs made it quick. We were able to get it

2041
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:46,280
Speaker 1: out there, get it gutted, get it cleaned up, and

2042
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 1: we were able to eat backstraft that next night. And

2043
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 1: so you know, I think I think people have this

2044
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 1: really wacky perspective on tracking dogs. I saw a post

2045
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 1: about it yesterday where a guy was like, people have

2046
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:00,920
Speaker 1: lost the art of tracking because are so dependent on

2047
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 1: tracking dog. It's like, like I've said fifteen times in

2048
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 1: this podcast, I want to be efficient, and those dogs, knows,

2049
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 1: are a whole lot more efficient than I am at

2050
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 1: tracking a deer. And so I thought it was cool. Man.

2051
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,559
Speaker 1: I love watching them work. Oh yeah, it was. It

2052
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 1: was terrific and very very thankful we had him there,

2053
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 1: like you said, made it how much speedier recover? And

2054
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 1: uh we were eating him the next day, which was

2055
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:29,440
Speaker 1: a darn good meal their fireside and tell you what. Yeah,

2056
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 1: And and like I told you guys, that was Um

2057
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 1: that was the first year and a half old buck

2058
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 1: I had shot in thirteen years, and I had had

2059
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 1: like a lot of apprehension around that this season. Um,

2060
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:42,680
Speaker 1: this had been a year where I was doing all

2061
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:44,640
Speaker 1: these different things, going to all these different places. And

2062
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:47,160
Speaker 1: I remember that first hunt. I was in Washington, d

2063
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 1: c I'm like, ma'am holding out for three year old

2064
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 1: still like I usually hold out for four year olds.

2065
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 1: But I thought, Okay, this year, I'll do a three

2066
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:57,599
Speaker 1: year old. And then after that first hunt, I started thinking, man, hey,

2067
01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:00,080
Speaker 1: that's not terribly realistic and be you're not really going

2068
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 1: to get a whole lot of the experience if you're

2069
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:05,759
Speaker 1: just sitting around waiting for a buck that really doesn't

2070
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:07,439
Speaker 1: exist in a lot of these places, or if he

2071
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 1: does exist, you know, it's very very very hard to

2072
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 1: get your eyes on him in three days or four days.

2073
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 1: And at the most, um, you're gonna miss out on

2074
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:18,080
Speaker 1: so much. Uh. You know, going to Nebraska, if I

2075
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:19,800
Speaker 1: was waiting for a four year old buck, I might

2076
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 1: never get the chance to go chase after one of

2077
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,560
Speaker 1: the decoys, see one up close. If I was in

2078
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 1: Arkansas waiting for a four year old buck, you know,

2079
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 1: I might never actually get to see if I could

2080
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:32,720
Speaker 1: kill one on the ground in a saddle over oaks. Uh.

2081
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 1: If I was in Alabama waiting for a four year old,

2082
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:37,240
Speaker 1: I never get to kayak one out and see what

2083
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 1: that moment felt like. All that stuff. Um, and I realized,

2084
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I was working my tail off. And my

2085
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:47,680
Speaker 1: my thing why I had chosen personally to try to

2086
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 1: target older bucks was that I was trying to find

2087
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:52,360
Speaker 1: a new way to challenge myself in a way to

2088
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 1: you know, encourage growth as a hunter. I wanted this

2089
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 1: new challenge of force be into learning new things and

2090
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 1: trying new things. And that's why had originally taken up

2091
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 1: that goal. Um. But now I was challenging myself and

2092
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 1: growing as a new hunter in this new way that

2093
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 1: didn't require holding out for a big buck. It just

2094
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 1: required me go to some crazy off the wall place

2095
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 1: and hunting a crazy off the wall way and trying

2096
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 1: to do it in a short amount of time. And

2097
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:18,559
Speaker 1: I was getting just as much of a challenge and

2098
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of new enjoyment and doing it trying

2099
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 1: to kill any buck. Um. So I gotten to this

2100
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:28,800
Speaker 1: place where I did not. I wouldn't have thought I

2101
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 1: would get to that point at the beginning of the

2102
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:35,040
Speaker 1: year where I was just as excited putt my hands

2103
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:37,559
Speaker 1: on that year and a half old seven pointer in

2104
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 1: Alabama as I was getting my hands on any three

2105
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 1: or four or five year old buck that I've killed

2106
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:46,559
Speaker 1: over the years and other places. Um and and it

2107
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 1: was just this year in general has been just a

2108
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,719
Speaker 1: really good reminder to me about what hunting is all about,

2109
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:54,879
Speaker 1: and how it is different for everybody, and how everyone's

2110
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:57,799
Speaker 1: got their own hill to climb, everyone's got their own challenges,

2111
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Speaker 1: everyone's got their own adventures, everyone's out their own things

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Speaker 1: that are going to get them fired up. And who

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Speaker 1: am I to say that my way is better than

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Speaker 1: anybody else's or that anyone else is better than mine? Um,

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Speaker 1: And this, this whole thing was just such a great,

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01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:15,599
Speaker 1: a great illustration of that come to life and getting

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01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 1: to spend some time in your neck of the woods

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Speaker 1: and see how you guys do it and see the

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Speaker 1: habitat and the deer and the culture and and everything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was. It was so cool. And to

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01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 1: have that cherry on top of of actually getting a

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01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 1: shot at the buck and putting them on a kayak

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01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 1: and floating on the lake with you the next day, Parker,

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Speaker 1: and eating that backstrap that night, I mean, that stuff

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01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 1: that uh, that stuff will just stick with you for

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Speaker 1: a long long time. And getting to eat the fruity

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Speaker 1: pebbles at the McDonald tradition of a bowl of fruity

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Speaker 1: pebbles after a successful kill. I mean, that's that's just

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Speaker 1: too cool. I'd be I would have been a poorer

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Speaker 1: man if I hadn't had a shot at that buck

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Speaker 1: and got to experience those things. So I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: glad that you guys have me down. I'm glad you

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01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:05,160
Speaker 1: encouraged me to, um, you know, think about any any

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01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:07,360
Speaker 1: buck being a buck row shooting. I'm glad I did it.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm just a happy camper here sitting at home

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01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:14,719
Speaker 1: remembering that Alabama experience. It was. It was truly terrific.

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Speaker 1: We we had a great time, Mark and uh kind

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01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:22,880
Speaker 1: of kind of what Dad said before, you know at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of podcast. We were just so impressed by

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Speaker 1: by you and the crew, meet eater guys, the conversations

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Speaker 1: that we had, just the camaraderie, the whole thing. Man.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I was, I was bummed out when

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Speaker 1: it was over because I had such a good time.

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Speaker 1: So any time you want to come back and shoot

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Speaker 1: another year and a half old buck, or if you

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Speaker 1: want to up your standards next time you come down,

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01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 1: well that's fine too. And uh, our camp is always

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Speaker 1: gonna be open to you guys. Well I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I do appreciate it. Uh, Randall, I gotta give you

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01:51:57,479 --> 01:52:00,519
Speaker 1: a moment to shine here. You filled the tent. You

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01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:02,519
Speaker 1: fill the tag a little a little after I left

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01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 1: in't it? You want to show that story real quick? Well,

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01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:09,840
Speaker 1: I had taken the shot there uh at at during

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01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 1: ruttcation and had five bucks chasing the dough and and

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01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 1: I thought I hit the deer. I still think I

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01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 1: nicked it, but I never did recover that deer. Um.

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Speaker 1: But we got home, Parker came out and uh Parker

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01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 1: came out to Texas and we did a deer hunt

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Speaker 1: on my property. I usually on my property, I'm not

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01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 1: gonna shoot spikes necessarily, but I've had a number of

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Speaker 1: chances to shoot some deer on my property. This year,

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01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:41,760
Speaker 1: just just hat and pulled the trigger and out there

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01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 1: by myself or whatever. And Parker was here, so I

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Speaker 1: had a spike come in. We got to celebrate a

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Speaker 1: great spike and uh just a great hunt, had a

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Speaker 1: great time and and uh h Parker even shot a

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Speaker 1: super deer out here. So we've we've had a good

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Speaker 1: good year. Sounds like it. Yeah, I couldn't believe it, Parker,

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Speaker 1: your head on tear. It's been a pretty pebbles that

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Speaker 1: that time too. We also went and had some pretty

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Speaker 1: pebbles after that, so that was a that was a

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Speaker 1: great deal. That's awesome. That's awesome. So is there anything?

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Speaker 1: Is there anything that we haven't touched on that needs

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Speaker 1: to be said for someone? If if in some kind

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Speaker 1: of way, we're trying to encapsulate a little like a

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Speaker 1: time capsule of what it's like to hunt down this

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Speaker 1: part of Alabama, this time of year, this kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Um My, my hope was to get a really nice

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Speaker 1: snapshot of that kind of experience, and and and now

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Speaker 1: with this podcast, trying to translate that experience into a

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Speaker 1: little to our nugget of it. Is there anything we

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01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 1: left out, Parker, that needs to be said, that needs

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01:53:48,479 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 1: to be touched on, that needs to be mentioned, anything else?

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Speaker 1: I think we would be failing in this podcast if

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Speaker 1: we didn't mention that we wrapped up the whole trip

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Speaker 1: with a meal at waffle House, the waffle House experience.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. We did get waffle House. It

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01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 1: was just what it was, just what we needed after

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01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 1: a long day out there. Like I gotta, I gotta

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Speaker 1: admit to you one thing, Parker, we ate that waffle

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Speaker 1: House with you guys, and then we went to our

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Speaker 1: hotel and then we went to the hotel restaurant. We

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Speaker 1: got more food that night at the hotel to we

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Speaker 1: were really I was disappointed, Mark because you went to

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Speaker 1: waffle House and you got a burger and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's still a waffle House burger. It's still

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Speaker 1: grilled on the same you know grill that all that

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Speaker 1: greasy stuff is. I mean, so you still got the

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Speaker 1: taste of waffle House, I guess, but you didn't get

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Speaker 1: a waffle. It would have been a mistake. That isn't

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Speaker 1: There's not really a mite about it, like you got.

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Speaker 1: If you don't get waffle House on a regular basis,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get waffle waffle as a rookie move as

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Speaker 1: a rookie. You know, I hadn't been to a waffle

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Speaker 1: house since spring break of college in Florida, like sixteen

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Speaker 1: years ago or something. So I just was not up

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Speaker 1: on my waffle house ordering guidelines and just really really

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01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 1: screwed the pooch on this one. But you need to

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Speaker 1: do so what we should have done is set up

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Speaker 1: the waffle House experience the same way as we set

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01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 1: up the deer hunt experience. So you should have just

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01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:29,160
Speaker 1: interviewed me like, Okay, what do I do? What about

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01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 1: order house? What am I looking for? Just set it

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01:55:31,960 --> 01:55:34,000
Speaker 1: up the same way and I think you would have

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Speaker 1: been less disappointed. Yeah. Man, that's season two of the

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Speaker 1: show next year. That's what we're gonna do. Food culture.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Randall, Thank you Parker. H. Parker. Can you

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Speaker 1: give folks a rundown of where they can see the

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01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:52,240
Speaker 1: things you're doing. You've got a lot of cool content

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01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 1: out there for Southern deer hunters. What can they find

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01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 1: and where can they find it? Yeah? Um, I do

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01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 1: the Southern Ground Hunting podcast and YouTube channel, so you

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01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:05,960
Speaker 1: can pretty much just search Southern ground Hunting and it'll

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01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 1: pull up on YouTube and uh anywhere podcasts or listen to.

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01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 1: The podcast is through the Sports from His Nation, So

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01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 1: a lot of your listeners probably familiar with that. Uh Old.

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01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:22,880
Speaker 1: Dan Johnson started that and uh so I'm on there

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01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 1: on Instagram and Facebook it's at Southern ground Hunting, um,

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01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:30,720
Speaker 1: and then on go Wild. I have a gear page

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01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 1: on go Wild, so you can check that out. Yeah,

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01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty much it. Awesome man, Well, it's great stuff.

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Speaker 1: I've enjoyed listening to the podcast and senior videos on YouTube.

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01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:43,120
Speaker 1: You're you're doing a good job and obviously the proofs

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01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 1: of the pudding. You know what you're doing out there

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01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 1: in the woods. There's been a lot of deer who, yeah,

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01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 1: seeing their tombs. Don't call on the ground because you've

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01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 1: been up in a tree nearby. Soup. Good work man,

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01:56:55,640 --> 01:57:01,400
Speaker 1: and thank you again to both you and Reginald. Thanks

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01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 1: Mark for having me and that's gonna do it. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for tuning in. Appreciate you spend some time here.

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Speaker 1: I hope this is inspired. Until next time, Thank you

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Speaker 1: and stay wired. Hi.