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Speaker 1: this is new due to the virus. I'm recording from home,

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Speaker 1: so you may notice a difference in audio quality. You know.

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Speaker 1: I started New to World about a year and a

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Speaker 1: half ago because I was intrigued with the number of

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Speaker 1: friends I have who love listening to podcasts, find them

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Speaker 1: a very personal experience, and find some of them entertaining,

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Speaker 1: others educational. And the more I thought about it, the

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Speaker 1: more seeing to me that the podcast was a great

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Speaker 1: way to connect with you and a great way to learn.

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Speaker 1: So almost all of my podcasts have fascinating guests who

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Speaker 1: I'm learning from while you're learning, and it's turned out

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Speaker 1: to be a terrific way to jointly get educated. And

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Speaker 1: apparently it's working because we've had almost six million downloads

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Speaker 1: and listens, and I want to thank all of you

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Speaker 1: for having made it such a remarkable start. Who began

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Speaker 1: as a network could develop a content platform where we

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Speaker 1: go out and we find really strong voices and personalities

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Speaker 1: want to try to develop new podcast series with this

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Speaker 1: just hang out with New Ginwich. So we focus on

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Speaker 1: finding some really interesting people who are broadly conservative but

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Speaker 1: leaders and personalities. And over the next three months we're

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Speaker 1: going to be working with iHeart to launch four new

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Speaker 1: series that we hope you're going to really enjoy and

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Speaker 1: is with my next guest, Rob Smith. You know Robin,

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Speaker 1: I've already talked at LENGTHLN. He calls himself America's favorite

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Speaker 1: New show, Rob Smith Is Problematic launches on Tuesday, August

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Speaker 1: I am delighted to be producing your new show and

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Speaker 1: Problematic because to the Left, I am a very problematic person.

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Speaker 1: So what does problematic mean? Problematic is presenting a problem

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