WEBVTT - Ep. 77: Bear Grease [Render] - Bucks, Wild Hogs, Losing Fingers, and Three-Wheeler Wrecks 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:16.560 M My name is Clay and Nukeleman. This is a 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:20.680 production of the bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.160 where we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:30.040 scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:35.320 HF Gear, American made purpose built hunting and fishing gear 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:39.280 that's designed to be as rugged as the places we explore. 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:47.560 Well man, this is this is a monumental Beargreas render 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:49.960 for me right here. I got lots of people here 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:54.520 that uh, usually we have a group that's all the same, 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:59.120 but during hunting season I usually do something a little different. 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.800 This is this is one of those different ones, all right. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:07.000 So the only regular is Gary Believer knucom. Does anybody 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.360 here know why he's his nickname is a believer? Absolutely 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:15.800 tell him? Tell him Scott. He believes in the black Panther. Hey, 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:19.720 Steve meat Eater made a hat that's like a best 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.640 selling hat, Like people wear this hat all over the 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.880 country and it says believer and it has a black 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.600 panther walking across the log with a moon behind it 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.400 and it and it says on the Mediator website inspired 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:36.320 by Gary knwcom. Yeah, so good to see you. Then, 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.240 so everybody else. Every one of you have been on 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:44.360 the Bargeras podcast before, but never on a render. I 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.320 don't think any of you ever been on a render. 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:50.760 So to my left, my good buddy, Scott Brown. I 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.680 talked about you all the time, Scott, do you hear 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.920 do you hear murmurs of it? Every once in a while, Yeah, 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:00.360 every once in a while. Now you mentioned me, So Scott, 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:02.560 you're just a couple of years older than me. We 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:04.840 didn't really know each other that well in high school. 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.640 Kind of. I knew of you. The first time that 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:14.280 I consciously remember Scott meeting Scott was outside the walmart 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.880 and we met up just like outside the walmart. It 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.800 was dark, and you said, Clay, I'm hunting the buck 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.120 that if I kill it, everybody's gonna know about it. 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.239 I didn't take much of a deer back then, and 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:32.919 like a hundred and fifty six inch buck on public 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.280 land with your both and everybody knew about it. And 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.120 I was like, what this man says he does, but no, 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:42.120 Scott and I I Scott went to the University of 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:46.639 Arkansas in Fayetteville. I moved to Fayetteville when you were 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:52.200 like a senior in college, and so I was whatever 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.280 you are when you start freshman, I guess. And we 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:59.880 worked together at Walmart and man, Andy, that's where I've 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.920 felt like I got to know you because me and 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:08.320 Scott talked NonStop about deer hunting, about black panther just 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:12.360 jumped in my lap, and um no, I learned a 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.679 ton about deer hunting from Scott Brown, no doubt. Good 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.440 to have you, Scott. You were on the first Bargrease 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:23.240 podcast too, was telling the story about the guy walking 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:27.880 in with a Bobcat picture, thinking it was a mountain lion. Think, yeah, yeah, 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:31.360 that was perfect. That was two year left is my 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:36.680 long time like since like grade school? Buddy, Randy long 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.240 legged step good to be here. Yeah, man, So Randy's 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:43.600 claimed to fame in the Bargrease world is that uh 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:45.600 he told the story of the buck falling in the 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.040 mind chef. Just think, Randy, if that hadn't happened to you, 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.560 where would you be in life? Man? You know I 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:55.200 can butterfly effect. Take that back to you. Clay. I 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.960 got my first job in high school because you quit 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.960 and I took your job. Specifically, I went in applied 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.240 and said, what are we talking I don't even I'm lost. 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.480 I guess I quit and didn't give them pushing carts, 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.200 and you told me at school, hey, I'm quitting that job. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:09.680 I was like, oh, I think I want that job. 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.160 So I went apply and said, hey, I heard Clay's quitting. 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:13.840 I want this job, and they gave it to me, 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.839 and I still worked there twenty five years later. So 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.839 if it weren't for you, maybe none of that happens, 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:23.880 and that deer didn't fall in my chap. Well, okay, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.200 I I didn't realize that you did that. Yeah, I 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.920 pushed carts and that's yeah. I had two stints at Walmart. 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.039 I guess everybody in Arkansas does you. Guys just stuck 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.160 with it. Scott works at Walmart. Randy works at Walmart. Absolutely, man, 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.560 I was thinking. Randy and I, believe it or not, 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.840 went to Boys State together, and if you know what 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:43.960 Boys State is, I don't know if that's good or bad. 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:45.680 I don't know if I'm proud of that or not 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.920 proud of that. But me and Randy and room together 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.359 there too, which is strange because usually they try to 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.800 pair you up some I guess they figured we couldn't 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.080 be paired with anybody else. I guess not good to 0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:01.640 see you, Randy. Randy's left skipping over dad, Steve, Eve Phillips, Steve. 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.440 As long as I remember being alive, I remember Steve 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.960 Phillips being around somewhere. We went to church with the 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.000 Phillips and I went to school with your kids. You 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:18.440 were on the second Bear Grease podcast mouth calling. Yeah, man, 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:22.080 give us your best mouth call, whether it's ol or crow? 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:27.080 Can you do it on the spot. There you go, 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:32.680 that's good. I want to hear about your hogg at 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.400 some point. Let me let me introduce uh oh yeah, 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.920 get this guy to get this guy to my left. Yeah, 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:41.760 and Steve's left is Andy Brown and Andy Man. I 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.040 told you this when you were on the podcast the 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:47.520 other day. You're your world famous man after the Louis 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.120 Dell and Charlie Edwards. Who would have thought that no 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.520 one Louis Dell and Charlie would get you so much 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.880 credit in this world? Not surprising, not surprising at all. 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.960 So Andy is Scott's dad. This is an eclectic group 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.919 of hunters. And then also not in the not with 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:08.240 a headset on It's koy house. Steve Phillips grandson and 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.120 I want to talk to koy after a while too. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.640 Tell us about that hog. Well, you know, it has 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.640 a lot to do with my grandson. Here coy House, 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.479 you know where I live, up behind the Old Boy 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.919 Bowling Alley. I found some hog sign in there the 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.440 other day, and so coy decided to put one of 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.840 the spike cameras up. And so he did, and all 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.160 of a sudden we're at Friday night ball game and 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.760 here comes a big old board at eight forty five 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.920 in there, and he said he shows them to the picture, 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:35.760 and I said, well, we're gonna get a chance to 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.839 shoot that thing. So we don't get another picture of 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:43.320 that until this morning. And we're laying there sleep and 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.520 his grandma's got to go to work at seven o'clock. 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.599 Six o'clock, the door knocks and he opens the door 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.719 and he said, hey, Paula, that hogs up her right now. 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.760 And I said, Coyds, go back to bed, we'll get 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.080 him another morning. Let us sleep. I didn't want to 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.599 get up, and he just shut the door and walked out, 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:01.520 and I thought, well, he's going back to bed in 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.239 just a minute. He opens my door and he shoves 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:07.400 his lab pup in my room. He said, what's the dog? 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.600 And so he left and I told you his grandma said, 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.840 he's gonna kill that hole. I said, the wind's gonna 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:14.880 blow down there and he's gonna smell him and run off. 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.480 In about ten minutes, I heard I heard a shot 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.000 and she said, you hear that and I said, yeah, Well, 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:25.280 my cell phone goes off and he says the smoked him. 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:26.800 And I said, well, come on back to us to 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.400 drink some coffee, and you know, let him get daylight. 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:34.000 He eat, he's flashlight on him. You know, private lags 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.400 anywhere anytime anything goes. So we go up there and 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.400 he said, he run off in the thicket down below. 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.120 I heard him crash. Well, we get in the side 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.760 beside and right up on top the hill and I've 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.520 bushhuged a big area around there, you know, for deer, 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.320 got deer stands and everything, and he's laying dead right 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.280 out in the middle of open So I just keep 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.080 the tractor and go out there and hook on to 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.560 him and raise him up and bring him back to 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.679 the house about two hundred and fifty then and sending 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.680 five pound. Do you have some pretty good teeth? Yeah? 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.320 I had some good, good touch on him. Yeah, you 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.000 beout half as big as that when you're killing hard, 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.320 about half as big as that one. I got hired 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.560 that a total Indian and Tony Hooper they were there. 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.280 I called him on the radio when I shot that hog. 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.400 Guys walking and I jumped him out of his bed 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.320 and I shot him. I called him on the radio. 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.040 They said, was at chat shot and I said, yeah, 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.600 I've killed a little ole hog. I said, I'm gonna 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.640 need Joll's help to help me drag him out. Well 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:32.680 here they come over there and we walked off down 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:34.560 to the woods and I was kind of back when 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.640 they got up there in about fifty yards where they said, 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:41.040 little hog nothing. We barely drug him up in the 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.600 back of the truck. He probably was five hundred pounds. 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.839 We took that thing camp hung it, dude up. I mean, 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:53.720 it's a big and Tony out there skintting that hog. 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.199 And I'm you, asked the boys. I'm a little weak stomach. 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.160 I mean I can, I can look at it, but 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.880 if but if I if I smell it, I'm gone. 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.120 I mean, you don't matter, it don't matter. It don't 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:07.600 matter if it's a deer or hog. There's nothing worse 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.199 than a gut shot deer in my opinion, with a 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.280 full of acrons. I mean, it's awful. But anyway, we 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.320 think that dude that and they're skinning that thing, and 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.160 that dude he's got a little old kind of a 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.520 growth pocket on it. Where was that? It's only his neck, 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.840 it's on his neck. We pulled that armor plate down, 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.560 Old Tony ritsch up and he he kept that thing. 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.079 When it did it is squirted stuff all up in 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.920 his mouth, up on his cheek. It looked like it 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:35.680 looked like dirt, dauber mud all up through there. I 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:42.840 had me a complete runaway out there. I mean, oh stink, 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.200 you can't even believe i'bout that thing. But that was 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.400 a you had to head mounted on that dude. Yeah, yeah, 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:52.439 he's in my closet. I had him mounting. Yeah, yeah, 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.280 big hog, you know, and we're trying to get in. 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.760 He's supposed to be bringing a paper towel to wipe 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.720 Tony's face, and we're telling don't open your mouth, and 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.920 he's running backwards, you know, about to fall down, trying 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.000 to throw up. And finally we get that in. No, 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.240 Tony said, he could smell that on his upper lip 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:13.880 for about a week. Is awful, man, There's been some 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:18.920 pretty good hog encounters. You shot one time five hogs 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.400 in the same day. Tell that story. Well, Clay was 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:26.760 in uh high school and I found a bunch of hawks. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.040 I put Clay on the only deer I could find 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.000 in the area where we hunt. So I went into 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.000 an area that I call hog bottom. I just reached. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.240 I knew the area, but this first time hoggs had 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:42.280 been in it, and uh, I knew there's deer, I 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:46.080 knew there were hawks, and so as I was going in, 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.000 there's a cane brake all the way across this bottom, 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:53.560 and all of a sudden, little pigs started coming out, 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:57.920 you know, hundred pounders, and I started wrack whack. So 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:02.320 I had five or six eras. Every time I'd shoot 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:06.040 one at squill and they would run across the creek 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:09.880 up on a little rise on a flat. So all 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:14.200 of a sudden, about the third hog, fourth hog, I 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.959 hear a roar, a sound. You know I talked about 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:21.720 that clicking buck. Well, I'm telling you this is a 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.600 sound that I think you've gotta be a real serious 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:28.240 hog hunter to have ever heard it. It was like 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.240 a lion in Africa. I mean, it was a roller 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:35.080 and you've probably heard it had in your sky. Anyway, 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.959 this sucker is coming off the mountain and he didn't 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.480 like it that I'm shooting his little pigs. He's hearing, 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:46.080 he's he squealing and running off, and he's off out 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.079 of here, you know, just inside of here and something. 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.000 So two three days later I talked to two big 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:54.640 hog hunters, one from Oklahoma, one from Arkansas, and I said, 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.800 what was that hog done? He said, he's got two 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.320 purposes to breed and protect, and he was coming to 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.360 get you. You know, he was coming off that mountain 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.880 to get you. So I got a tree behind me 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.600 about this big that I see I can climb. I'm 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.839 right there a creek, you know, about ten ft wide 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:19.480 but real shallow, and then up a bank. So he 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.920 comes down and he crosses that creek, and when he 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.640 crosses that creek, he fills up the whole creek. I mean, 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.400 this sucker looked like a freight train. And so he 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.280 jumps up and gets on one of these hog trails 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.640 and he comes right straight to me on a hog trail, 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.200 and I'm sitting there at full draw, and I'm thinking, 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.920 if he comes to the edge of the creek, which 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:48.240 was ten ft away, you know, I'm shooting. Well, he comes, 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:52.280 and he's coming right to me. He probably doesn't he 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.440 hadn't seen me. You know, they're pretty they're pretty blind. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:58.080 I think, I don't say, but I can see him 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.360 and that's all I needed. So when he got to 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.440 the edge of the creek, I just touched off my 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:06.600 release and hit him right square in the head. You 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:10.240 couldn't shoot him anywhere else. His head was Yeah, his 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.680 head was so big you couldn't see it looked like 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:17.400 legs with a head. And uh So I shot him 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.320 in my era as a luminum era, and it broke 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.040 and I could see it spinning off and I saw 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:27.040 him turn anyway. I had four or five dead pigs 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:32.120 over here in this guy that didn't hurt him. I mean, 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.920 for years, I thought, one day, I'm gonna kill a 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.520 hog down there that's got a big wasp broad head 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:43.320 stuck in between forehead. But we never did. But but 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:45.560 the next week I took Clay in there, and that's 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.720 a story I probably told on this where he went 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:54.120 in and and killed a pig, a hog and then 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.560 all the little bitty pigs came in, and he had 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:00.600 like thirty thirty little pigs, twenty little pigs around. I 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.680 shot a I was sixteen. No, I wasn't sixteen. I 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:07.080 was fifteen because I couldn't drive yet. And I walked 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.240 into hog bottom just where he had had all his pigs. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.480 And I hadn't been in there ten minutes. I mean, 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.079 I I could know more. Here the gravel popping of 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:20.400 Dad leaving me there, and I see a pig coming, 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:25.720 just trotting down the bottom, and the first one gets past. Man, 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.360 it's full grown hog. And I'm just sitting there, going, 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.520 holy cow, I just saw hog. And I hadn't seen 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:34.440 hogs before because the first time I encountered wild hogs. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.720 And not two minutes later, here comes another one coming 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:42.720 down the trail alone, black adult hog, and I just 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.840 draw back and it gets out there. Take a good shot, 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.720 just ten ring this hog. Dad's been gone ten minutes 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.359 and it's you know, it's probably four in the afternoon, 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:59.760 getting dark at seven thirty, and so the hog runs 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:05.760 off well directly a minute after that pig comes by. 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:10.160 Here comes twenty six. I'm not kidding, I counted every 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.800 one of them. They were, they were shots. They were 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:19.480 all different sizes, they were like sixty pounders down to 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:24.640 little bitty just hardly weaned piglets. And they just just 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:28.720 paraded by me, following the two pigs I've just seen. 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.520 And for some reason, I wasn't used to the wild 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.400 hog world back then, and I just it was kind 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.240 of like deer hunting. I felt like, I mean, I 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.280 don't know that I consciously thought about regulations, but now 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.400 I would have just kept slinging arrows at him, and 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.720 that's what he had done. But for some reason, I 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.920 didn't shoot any more hogs so I could have anyway. 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:51.400 They all run off in thirty minutes passes, and I 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.040 decided I'm gonna trail this hog that I've shot. And 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:58.200 I started trailing this hog, and I blood trailer I 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:02.600 don't know a hundred yards, and all of those shots 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:07.320 were gathered up around my dead hog. It was a 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:12.280 big south and uh, and they wouldn't leave her. And 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.520 finally I got tired of watching them, and I crawled 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:17.840 up on my hands and knees to see how close 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.440 I could get to them, grunting. I was grunting like 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.000 a pig and I'm serious. I got within five yards 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.760 of the whole mass of them, and then why I 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.400 scared him off and they all scattered, But they were 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:35.200 I'm not sure that they weren't pretty fresh turned out. 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.640 Back in those days people were turning hogs, and now 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.200 they were black and wild as they could be. But 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.600 you know, guys were catching. That was back when guys 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:46.760 were catching hogs wherever and bringing them and turning them loose. 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:51.080 And uh, anyway, that was my hog story right after 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.480 that until about the two you killed it. Only like Scott, 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.080 Scott and Tim come in when we've had a boat 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.480 camp for what twenty years probably they show up one 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:04.080 even Captain. They've got a whole pickup bed full the 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:08.480 hogs in a big eight point buck deer that covered it, 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.840 filled the whole bed of the truck up. But telling 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.560 that story about those two big hogs, Yeah, that's one 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:15.560 of the most memorable hunts I've ever been on. So 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.159 Tim Clark, he you know, he's all he's friends with 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.760 all of us here. We all know Tim. And we 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.480 were at bow camp one week and Tim said, man, 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.520 we gotta go find some deer. We we just hadn't 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:30.200 found what we were looking for all week long. And um, 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.080 so we let out and we go over to a 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.040 couple of different ridges and we're walking on this first 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:40.200 ridge and uh, we actually run into we actually run 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.080 into a few hogs that day on the side of 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:46.600 a just kind of a hickory cedar thicket ridge. But 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:48.960 we weren't hog hunting. We're trying to find some buck sign. 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.600 You know, it's it's Halloween week. We're thinking, you know, 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.760 we're looking for big bucks sign. And we kind of 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:59.119 started back kind of well, it's hard to explain it. 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.400 We're kind of headed back south where we had originally 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.000 started and pulled in on a little ridge or or 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.280 an old dim logging road kind of you can still 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.680 make remnants of this old logging road outside this ridge. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:11.840 And when you when we found it, there was probably 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.359 every you know, fifty yards downe that road was a 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.119 fresh scrape. Just I mean, it's just what kind of 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.000 what we were looking for. And we found some white 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.359 oak acres that were in there, and there wasn't white 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.960 oaka acres just everywhere that year, and so you could 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.240 tell the deer we're really in this area. Pretty strong 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:31.800 good buck sign and all that. And when we saw that, 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:35.159 we thought, don't wonder if the ridge on south of 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:36.960 here is like this one. I wonder if it made 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.000 white oak acre. And so we we kind of went 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:40.960 over the top of the ridge, cross the holler, pull 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.320 back up and on the next ridge over there, and 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:47.719 walked in on the side uh of just a kind 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.199 of a mixture between white oak and red oaks on 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:51.920 the side of this shridge. Pulled it on the side 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.760 of that, and there's just acrons everywhere on the side 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:56.760 of the ridge. I mean, we just you know what 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:58.320 it's like, and you just kind of just walk into 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:00.119 a place and you know instantly when you walked in, 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.720 this is a spot. And it wasn't just white oaks's 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:06.440 red oaks. The leaves were just turned over and there 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.800 where the deer had been, there was fresh buck sign. Uh, 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.600 just everything that you need, the recipe, all the ingredients 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.480 were there. So you could tell there was some hog 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:20.000 sign in there too, and uh, but we were more 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:23.080 concerned about the buck sign, you know. And so we 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.240 kind of marked a couple of trees and we decided 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.600 that we'd give it a couple of days the air 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:30.920 out because we've been stomping around and they're pretty good. 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:32.480 And I'm weird about that, Like, if I'm in a 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.359 place like, I want to leave it alone for a 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.840 day or two kind of let things calm back down 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.280 and go back in fresh. And so a couple of 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.280 days later we went back in there, and the way 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.480 it was, Tim dropped me off on the ridge I 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.399 was on, and then he went on over and pulled 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.159 up over the top of the ridge to where he 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.800 was on. So anyway, I get and we got this 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:56.040 is back. Well, we had we had cell phones. I'm 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:59.480 fairly positive, but you know, the cell service just was 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:01.880 not this thing over there. And so we had these 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:06.600 two way radios, and so I told Tim, I said, 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:10.840 and let's hunt until eleven or twelve o'clock. I said, 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:14.359 if you shoot something, we were close enough in proximity 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.960 that if he owed me, I could hear him out 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:18.480 and I could do the same and he'd hear me. 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:21.080 I said, if I shoot something, my ala, that'll be 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:23.560 the signal. Turn the radio on, and you do the same. 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:27.280 He says, all that sounds like a plan. So anyway, 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:31.040 I climb up the tree and set set there. That 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.960 morning had been pretty quiet. It's probably nine o'clock in 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:37.080 the morning, hadn't hadn't seen other than squirrels, I hadn't 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:43.080 seen anything. And anyway, about nine o'clock I get the 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:46.560 hearing something over the top of the ridge. I'm kind 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.320 of over on the north break of this ridge where 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.280 I can hear something over the south break of the ridge, 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:52.560 just making some noise over there. And I didn't know 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.919 for sure what it was, and I just kept tuned 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:57.800 in there, and just a little bit I looked at 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:03.200 at the top of the ridge crested just I'm talking 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:09.360 Volkswagen of a hall a monster. I mean, this thing 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:11.720 walks over top the ridge. I can't believe it. I'm like, 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:15.160 my goodness, that's the that's the biggest hog I've ever 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:18.800 laid eyes on, I mean a monster. And his fate 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:20.720 would have it. He just comes right over the top 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.080 of the ridge, walks right down there, right into the 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:27.280 game trail that I'm set up on, turns west and 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:30.640 here he comes, and it's twenty two yards out there, 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:32.600 straight in front of me to this game trail, and 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:34.240 I thought, man, if he gets to that game trail, 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:37.879 I'm just gonna shoot him right there. And I really, 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:40.600 again I premised this by saying I wasn't there on 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:43.120 a hog gun, you know. I'm really sitting on some 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:45.760 smoking hot Bucks shign, you know, and so I'm trying 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:47.919 to stay disciplined here. But this hog is the biggest 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.560 one I've ever seen in my life, you know. So 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:53.400 he left with no choice. Yeah, So he's coming down 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:56.240 this trail and he walks out there at twenty two 0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:58.920 yards and I didn't even have to stop him. He 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:00.800 just stopped on his own one like it was meant 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:04.280 to be. And I'm at full draw by then, and 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:07.040 I just bury one up behind the shoulder. I mean, 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:09.480 it just buries up to the fletching. He lets out 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:11.600 a little squill and just takes off, kind of running 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:15.600 back up the ridge, kind of going south west of me, 0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:18.280 and he takes about he runs about forty yards and 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:21.720 just crashes over kicks about three times, and it's over 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:26.159 and I can see him, you know, I'm I can 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:28.159 see him on the ground from my tree, you know. 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:31.960 And man, I'm pumped up. I've never killed one that big, 0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:35.800 you know. Normally what she kills them eighty to d 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:38.480 and twenty pounders, you know, And I mean I was 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:43.440 just pumped. So I get another arrow knocked up my 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:45.000 hang a bow up. I turn around there and I 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:48.359 give it the whoa, you know. And in just a minute, 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:50.680 I turned my radio on and just minute Tim comes 0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:52.879 on the radio and he says, how about it, Scott, 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.920 And I said, yeah, you got me. He's like yeah, 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.640 And I just go into this big as tim Son. 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:02.440 I just shot the biggest hog that ever lived down here. 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:05.680 He's like, are you serious. I was like, oh my gosh, 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:08.800 you just can't believe how big this hog is. He's like, man, 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:10.840 that's awesome, he said, Man, I just had a lone 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:15.600 dough walk by me. And I said, well, man, I'll 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:17.240 get off here. I said, get ready, there'll be a 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:19.639 buck along if she's by herself, you know. So I 0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:21.600 turn off my radio and I just took it back 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:24.920 my backpack and I just settled in. I just sat 0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:27.280 up there. I'm you know, I'm gonna sit till eleven. 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:29.080 I was gonna go ahead and set the morning, you know. 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:36.120 So anyway, about thirty minutes go by, and the only 0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:37.800 way I know how to explain it is to the 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:42.679 east of me, it sounded like wind coming over the ridge, 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:48.199 just this roar of noise, like leaves and wind like 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:53.080 it was just crazy, just a roar coming, And I thought, 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.440 what in the world is going on? And I got 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:59.280 the watching out there east in the woods became alive 0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:03.200 with hall there was there was like a tidal wave. Yeah, 0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:07.119 there was twenty hogs at least in a group, and 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:09.960 they're all just scouring the side of this ridge for 0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:12.639 these acres, and they're all just in the feeding mode 0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:15.760 and they're just making more noise than you can imagine. 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:20.359 So I got to look at those and I thought 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.760 shooting that first dog was pretty fun, being funner to 0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:26.479 shoot another one, you know. So I look out there 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:28.960 and I pick one out. There's a little light gray 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:31.600 hog and I've always described it. He was almost like 0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.320 a reverse Havelna. Where I have Alena is black with 0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:37.440 a white stripe. This one was like a really light 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:40.399 gray with a black stripe, almost the same way I 0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:43.800 have Elena would be strike that. So it's pretty cool. 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:45.480 I thought, you know, it's a cool looking pick. So 0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:47.960 I'm just gonna just zero. You had to just pick one. 0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:49.320 There was so many of them. You just had to 0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:51.760 be like, pick the one you want. And so this 0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:54.120 hog just keeps coming and keeps coming and they're working 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.359 their way. They're just they're just coming to me. In 0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:58.560 a few minutes, I'm gonna have twenty hogs all within 0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:00.199 bow range. I mean just a few minutes. And so 0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:02.960 I picked out this little gray hog and he just 0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:05.640 keeps coming, and I would say he was I don't 0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:07.600 think you would a wait, a hundred pounds, probably eighty 0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:11.200 to a hundred pounds. And this little hog gets right 0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:14.440 in behind me, and I'm just about to draw my bow, 0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:18.240 and all of a sudden, these hogs just go to scattering, 0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:21.920 like what you described when you jumped up and hollered 0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:24.960 at those hogs and they scattered out. These hogs just 0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:27.760 also just kind of starts scattering and running, and right 0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:34.240 through the middle of them comes a hog that's a 0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.920 quarter bigger than the one I've already shot, and and 0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:39.639 and this, and the one you shot was the biggest 0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.040 one in the world. The one I shot was the 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.639 biggest one in the county Scott, Are you glad you 0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:47.639 didn't decide to get on the ground and grunt like 0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:49.600 a hog and trying to scare him. I went on 0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:53.760 my hands and knees trying to sneak up on him. 0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:58.880 So I see this hog, he just comes charging in, 0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:01.760 like just arging in, and these other hogs you can 0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:05.679 tell like give him a wide berth, you know. And 0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.480 when he comes to a stop trotting out there, he's 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:12.520 fifteen yards underneath my tree and he sticks his nose 0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:15.920 in the leaves and goes to pick up acorns. Well 0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:18.920 by then, man, I'm at full draw again, and I'm 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:22.000 so high in this tree. I man, fifteen yards. It 0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.080 was almost felt almost like I was shooting straight down 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:28.160 at him, you know. And when I touched the release, 0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:32.040 my arrow just twelve rings this thing and the top 0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.680 of the shoulder on its right side, and it buries 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:38.240 up almost to the fletching. I mean, just just stuck 0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:42.080 him perfect. When I shot him, he takes about two 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:46.720 jumps kind of uphill and then just whips around and 0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:52.320 he is double mad, and he just he's just he's 0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.320 just kind of spinning circles, looking looking looking looking. He's 0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:58.720 just like he's he's looking for whatever. Whatever, Just bid 0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:02.040 him whatever, just at him. And I'm sitting there looking 0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:05.119 I shot. I used to shoot white, three white fletchings 0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:06.879 on my arrows because you could see him in flights 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:11.119 much better. I'm looking at these three white fletchings against 0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.960 this black hog body that is in a twelve ring 0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.439 spot on this hog, and he acts like he's not 0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:21.440 even shot. Hm. And I remember thinking, well, I can't 0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:26.040 shoot one better than that. Yeah, I mean, but I'm 0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.560 digging for another arrow, you know. I'm reaching around there 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:30.720 and I'm trying to grab another arrow out of my quiver, 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.960 and I get one, and he's still just kind of 0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.680 standing there and he left. I just about I got 0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.919 an arrow knocked, and I'm I'm in the process of 0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.280 trying to get my release on the string, and he 0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:46.280 finally besides, he better get get gone. So he takes off, 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.480 just charging up this ridge, just running straight up hills. 0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.879 You can. I'm talking to steep Ridge, just trotting up 0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:56.199 this ridge like there's nothing wrong with him whatsoever. And 0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:58.040 I'm watching this hog just run off out of my 0:27:58.119 --> 0:27:59.760 life forever. It looks like you know what I mean, 0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:03.120 Like I was like, I can't believe it. And he's 0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.640 just a dead stride about twenty yards from him. He's 0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.720 just a dead trot And all of a sudden, it 0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:11.880 was just like you pulled the power cord on him 0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.159 and he was dead instantly, he just comes to a 0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:18.159 sliding halt up there and never wiggled again. It was 0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:22.760 all she wrote. So of course, you know, I'm about 0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.199 ready to jump out the tree. I'm so excited, you know. 0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:30.240 So I grabbed my radio. I'm digging it out, you know, 0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:34.840 I'm excited. And about that time Tim comes on the 0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:36.840 radio was like, how about it, Scott? I was like, 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.320 and I started, Tim, You're not gonna believe what just happened, son. 0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:44.040 I just shot. I shot an absolute tank of a hog, 0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:45.719 bigger than the first one I shot. And I go 0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:47.520 on and I go on for two or three minutes 0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:49.880 on the radio without taking a breath hardly, you know. 0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:54.000 So anyway, I finally get done telling my whole story 0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:57.120 on the radio and I take my thumb off the 0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:00.680 button and Tim goes, man, that's awesome. I just shot 0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:06.240 a big buck. And I'm like, and I thought I 0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:07.520 heard what I heard, you know, And I was like, 0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:09.720 come back, did you just say you shot a big buck? 0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.800 He's like ten four. I just shot a big buck 0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.560 over here. And of course I'm like, man, this is 0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:18.520 the most awesome day. We can't believe it, you know, 0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:23.600 So lock to cut the story down, Tim just he's 0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:26.000 not sure. He's pretty sure he made a good hit. 0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:27.560 But you know how you are when you don't see 0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:29.320 the arrow hit the deer, and you all got this 0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:31.280 doubt in your mind. And the longer you said, the 0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.719 more you doubt it, and all this other stuff. So 0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:36.240 Tim come and got me later, and I said, Man, 0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.680 if you're worried about your hit, let's got plenty of 0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:44.040 work to do. Let's get these hogs out and uh 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:47.479 we'll go and get yours. Uh we'll get It'll give 0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:51.080 it some time, you know. So anyway, long story short, 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.440 he had hit that dear perfect. He ran maybe seventy 0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.720 five yards. He just didn't see him go down. You know. 0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:04.400 Those hogs and that buck filled up back of a truck. Yeah, hey, 0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.959 we we had in that bucks. It was a dandy, 0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:10.960 I mean, like right at pope and young class eight 0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:15.040 point nice, just a really nice buck at the time. 0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.280 I want to say that was for sure, probably the 0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:19.480 biggest buck at the time Tim had ever killed with 0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:21.760 a bow. I mean, it was a it was a 0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.480 good deer. It was a good day hunt, but it 0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:25.720 was an awesome day hunt. Started out as a deer hunt, 0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:42.640 turned into a hog hunt. But ended as a deer hunt. Randy, 0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:44.560 this would be a good time to clear up the 0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.000 roar in your story that we never got to. So 0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.960 Randy told the story on the first White Tail Stories 0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:58.760 podcast about buck following a mine shaft and you you 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:03.760 talked about a roar, which now we're talking about hall roars, 0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.280 fair roars, but it was the buck. It was a 0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:11.480 buck roar, and I had never really heard one before. 0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.280 I had heard him grunt, and I've heard all kinds 0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.440 of stuff, dear, blow at you. But when he made 0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.800 that noise, it made the hair on my next stand up, 0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:21.960 I was It woke me up. I was like, oh 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:24.240 my gosh, what was that. But at the time I 0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.080 still didn't know it was a buck because I didn't 0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:29.400 think they can make that noise. Um. But you know, 0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.240 once all that transpires, like it had to be that buck, 0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:36.320 and talking with Scott about it, you know, he explained 0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:38.240 buck roar and all that kind of stuff, and I've 0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.960 heard him like on YouTube videos and stuff like that's 0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:44.360 exactly what it is. And I think on that podcast 0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.160 or maybe the next one that he was brought up 0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.840 on one of the stories a buck roar and they 0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:51.800 played it and I was like, oh, yeah, that's exactly 0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:55.400 what it was. Uh. Did you like how Phil the 0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:59.120 meat eater sound guy put an actual like lion roar. 0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:02.880 I didn't have time to tell Phil, hey, you didn't 0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:05.560 have to do that, but uh, because because the way 0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:09.640 I think he heard the story was that like. So 0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:13.640 it was like, well, to trim the story down. What 0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:16.880 I left out was you know, I mentioned how out 0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:20.000 of shape I was, but I contemplated just sitting on 0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:21.720 the ground. I was so tired. But when I sit 0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.680 down above that trail, I look right beside me and 0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:27.680 there was a big old pile of bear scat, and 0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.960 I thought, okay, I'm not sitting So you had reason 0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:33.560 to think there was because there was bear sign. And 0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:36.440 when I climbed up in the tree, as it started 0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.840 getting daylight, down below me, I could see something really 0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:43.640 dark and I first was like, that's not a bearret 0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:44.920 to move by now, And then I was like, is 0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.040 it a whole the bears? You know? And come to 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:50.000 find out, it was the opening of that my shaft. 0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:52.600 I just didn't know what it was. So, you know, 0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:54.800 as as it's getting daylight, I'm looking down there and 0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:56.640 I'm trying to figure out what that is? So how 0:32:56.680 --> 0:33:03.360 far was the mind shaft from? Probably about thirty yards? 0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:06.560 It wasn't that far. It wasn't that far. But the 0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:08.960 way it's cut, I mean, it was so steep you 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.480 could tell something was there, but you couldn't tell what 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:15.080 it was. Yeah. Um, Scott sent me a picture today 0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.840 of the buck in the mind shaft. I'm gonna put 0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:22.240 that on my Instagram at some point. Yeah. I posted 0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:25.400 the actual buck on my Instagram after the thing came out, 0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.200 just so anybody looked at it and see how because 0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:29.440 he was a good sized buck. I mean, it's the 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:33.160 biggest buck I've ever killed. Uh. And then add some 0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:35.440 water on him. We can count that water weight right 0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:41.560 lifting him up out of the hole. He was heavy. Yeah. Now, Andy, 0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.240 were you with your grandson when he killed the big 0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:45.880 I mean I know you weren't sitting with him. But 0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:48.280 the big deer there was a big deer killed two 0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:53.520 days ago Scott's sons. Yeah, Yeah, that was That was 0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:57.120 a heck of a deer, big deer. Yeah, how big 0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:00.400 was it? Scott? This is your son? Was it Blake? Yep? 0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:03.920 Sun Blake. Huh, it's his biggest buck ever he's ever killed. 0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:05.720 It's gonna the deer is gonna be right out a 0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:10.360 hundred and thirty eight point. Yeah, so public land land, dear, yeah, 0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.200 good dear, and all you're looking for on public land 0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.320 over there where we were running for sure. Yeah. He 0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:18.799 calls me up Friday night and he says, Paul, you're 0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:20.520 hunting the Morrow. And I said yeah. He said, you 0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:22.799 here if I go with you? And I said I no, 0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:24.960 I don't care if you go. He said, where are 0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:26.279 we going? I said, I don't know. We're gonna go 0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.280 down south. I said, we'll dump you out down or somewhere, 0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:32.840 you know. Anyway we go down and of course what 0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:34.920 he what? He shows up, and I gotta say this. 0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.719 Of course I'm a stickler about this. I said, be 0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.600 at my house at four thirty. And he was at 0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:44.080 my house at four thirty. So that was a plus. 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:46.840 And and then he gets out, get start. It's good starting. 0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.160 But then things kind of went downhill a little bit. 0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:52.160 He he uh. He said, well, you're all gonna hunt 0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:54.480 all day and I said, well, I don't know. He said, well, 0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:56.040 you know, if you're gonna hut all day, I'm gonna 0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:57.520 take my own rig because I need to come in 0:34:57.560 --> 0:34:59.799 and I said, so there's already stipulations on his up, 0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:04.200 so we give him. You can imagine this what we 0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.279 did to him going down that morning, and we we 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:09.640 kind of wrote him pretty hard and anyway, went down 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:13.400 and it put him in the tree, and and uh, 0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:17.239 Kevin Spurgeon, he was something with us. And so I 0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:19.800 don't we dun't took Blake down to the tree and 0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:21.680 put him up to our diet and put him up 0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:23.759 my tree. But showed him the tree and I went. 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:26.080 Dump Kevin off and I went and we were gonna 0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:30.239 hunt till eleven o'clock. And uh, we'll explain why you 0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:34.080 chose that spot. Well, the reason when we chose that 0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:38.520 spot was Cole had about I spent a month ago, 0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:42.560 probably the first first weekend of both season, eighth of October, 0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:46.920 was it. Anyway, he had hunted that sand and and 0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:50.400 he had three bucks coming on him that morning, including 0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:53.480 this deer. Uh, and it just wore him out at 0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.959 twelve yards. And you know when the when the buck 0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:58.640 come in, Cole says, there's no way this deer can 0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.000 get away from me. I'm i gonna kill him. You know. 0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:03.000 He said there was a time or two that he 0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:04.680 could have shot him through a little bit of stuff, 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:06.239 and he said, why why would I want to do that. 0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:09.080 He's gonna give me a broadside shot at twelve yards. 0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.640 And he said about that time that deer kind of 0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:15.359 turned and one of them bucks he run it. One 0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:16.759 of those bucks and a buck run off, and he 0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:18.800 chased him up the ridge and walked out of his life. 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.480 Never even got a shot at him. And so Cole 0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:24.879 kept telling us, somebody needs gonna hunt this deer. Said, 0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.960 he's a bruiser. He's a big buck, he said, he said, 0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:30.439 in fact, he said, probably the biggest buck I would 0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:33.720 have ever killed, if I would have killed him. And 0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:39.520 so anyway, so Kevin and I before Blackie call, we 0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:41.560 were gonna go hunt. And I was gonna hunt that stand, 0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:45.200 and Kevin was gonna go y. And so I told Blake, 0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:46.839 he really owes me a bunch now that I put 0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:51.440 him in my stand. But anyway, there was no grounds 0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.919 rinkage on that one. And I called cold and I said, well, 0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:55.960 you didn't have the big guy on him, because I 0:36:55.960 --> 0:37:00.480 mean he was a big buck. Something. Men's time is 0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:04.160 eleven and a quarter g two beams. I mean, that's 0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:08.919 that's good main beams so many here, you know, big 0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.719 buck dere but he so when I went to pick 0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:15.880 Kevin up, Uh, Kevin's nonchalant. Of course, I didn't have 0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:19.480 any service where I was at. Everybody Scott and Blake 0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:22.000 and Kevin had been talking and anyway, I went to 0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:23.200 the one of my stuff in the back of the 0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.120 truck and Kevin says, when we need to make some room. 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:27.919 And I said, what are you talking about? I said, 0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:30.120 did Black kill that big buck? He said, he sure did. 0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:32.920 And so we take off and go over there at noon. 0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.440 But then when I come over the hill, old Blake's 0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:40.160 up give me the fifth book. You know, he calls 0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:43.359 his dad and Scott says, he couldn't even get it out, Dad, Dad, 0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.440 I just killed the biggest buck of my life. You know. 0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:48.520 He was some kind of tour But you know what, 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:52.759 that's what it's all about. That's that's and we talked 0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:58.000 about this all the time, and it's not about you. Really, 0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.000 I get as much and Scott had. We had this 0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:04.920 conversation this week, and it's like Gary talked talking about 0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:08.239 taking you down where the deer were. That's the way 0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:11.920 we operate, you know, It's not about me going to 0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:15.959 the best spot. It's about I think anybody's separate hunting 0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:20.440 with me would say I'm gonna give you the best spot. Mh. 0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.640 I'm not. I'm not greedy when it comes to that. 0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:27.320 I can vouch for that because um, by no means 0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.760 the greatest hunter. I hunted with you in high school, Clay, 0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:34.120 when I think neither one of us were killing deer. Um, 0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:36.160 you moved up with them and start killing deer and 0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:38.600 then they Scott moves back to Mina. That's when I 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:40.160 hook up with them and I start killing deer. But 0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:42.920 I've been to camp with these guys and it is 0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:46.160 an art form. You guys have it mapped out. Y'all 0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:50.160 have probably twenty stands based on the wind, and you 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:52.480 sit around the camp the night before and figure out 0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.440 who's going where, and it's a it's a whole strategy, 0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:58.040 and I mean it's very productive. So well, I'd rather 0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.840 see you know, I mean, I get it's much thrilled 0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:05.040 out of somebody else getting a thrill. I'm not. I'm 0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:08.000 not a loner when it comes to deer hunting, our 0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:11.640 turkey hunting. I like companionship. I like people to gig 0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:13.560 and I hope we get into some of the gigging 0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:22.440 on some of steps. There's some highlights with him, But 0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:26.840 I tell you it's all about companionship and and uh, 0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:30.239 you know, Scott Steve grew up with my kids and 0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:34.440 treated him like his own. And he's he's walked thousands 0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:38.600 of miles behind me over the years. I mean, great friendship. 0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.759 Even before that we played little legue baseball together. That's 0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:42.440 how far we go back. That's a lot, that's a 0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:47.759 lot of years. And uh, but I think hunting is 0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:51.960 about making somebody happy. You know, it's not and it's 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:55.400 not about being especially anymore. I mean it's I like, 0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.680 kill buck deer as by anybody, but Blake, when that 0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:01.840 boy killed that there, that's what it's really all about. 0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.800 It's kind of like when when Ronella lets you shoot 0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:07.520 the moose. You know, that's that's shows you kind of 0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:10.000 up made me think a whole lot of him when 0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:12.239 I and I think Gary May pointed that out and 0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:15.680 in one of the podcasts about that shows you what 0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:19.360 kind of guy he is when he lets you shoot 0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.479 the moose that he's always wanted to shoot. So but 0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.400 so we give we give Blake a hard time. We 0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:27.719 told him that. You know, by looking at it, I 0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:29.319 thought he ought to give it at least another year. 0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:34.520 He shouldn't have shot it. Yeah, you know, it's probably 0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:36.279 been a whole lot bigger little thing, you know, but 0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:39.480 it was truly. When you kill a buck like that, 0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:44.400 it's a whole different They're a whole different category than 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:45.600 a two and a half or three and a half 0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:49.400 year old deer. They're just they're just big. I was 0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:53.239 excited to see it, Scott message me the other day. Yeah, 0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:57.960 I sent it. In fact, Dad and Kevin had not 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.319 even come out to Bloke yet when I sent you 0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:05.239 the picture. Yeah, yeah, I was working. I wasn't even 0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:07.560 hunting Blake. Of course, Blake calls me. I picked up 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:09.520 the phone. I see it's him. When he calls me 0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:12.759 from the woods, I know something's happened, you know. So 0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:14.800 I picked up the phone and I can't even understand 0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:17.480 what he's saying. He says something like, you know, just now, 0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:21.880 I just shot. I can't even understand him, and I 0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:24.360 was like, are you sure you made a good hit? Like, 0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:26.200 let's slow down for a second. Are sure he made 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:27.960 a good hit. He's like, oh, I've already seen him 0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:29.400 he's already he's on the ground, you know, I mean, 0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:34.680 he'd already found him and everything. Yeah, And anyway, I said, 0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:38.480 well you got a picture. No, I was like, Blake, 0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:40.920 take a picture of him, you know, like, give me, 0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:42.640 give me something to go off of. I'm living my 0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:46.719 life through you today. So he, uh, he takes a 0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:49.200 picture of it. Since it I think the first picture 0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:50.759 I sent to you is just a deer laying on 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:52.879 the ground. Yeah, and you can tell it was big, 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:56.080 but you couldn't really tell that much. You were one 0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:57.920 of the first three people. I think I sent the 0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.840 picture too. Yeah. Oh, Blake Brown just gets down and reloading, 0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:09.359 gives you another down. You get up, Hey, he just 0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.000 give him another to the shoulder. Lay it there. That 0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:17.160 was funny, Steve. You've been hunting with Andy, you twenty 0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:23.000 plus years. Yeah, yeah, I mean, in fact, how old 0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:25.799 were you were you about Blake stage when you killed 0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:27.799 that big buck down off on the back side of 0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.399 the mountain and I came to you and you said, 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:32.160 how we're gonna get that buck out of here, and 0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:37.200 nice shoulder packed him just like you were talking about that. Yeah, 0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:39.719 I'm not sure how old I was, because Cole killed 0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:41.719 went on the same morning. If you'll remember, he was 0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:45.680 about twenty one or twenty two, I want to and 0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:48.240 if Cole was ten, i'd have been twenty when that happened. 0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:50.239 And we were down to bottom and I went off 0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.440 down off the middle mountain down to him, down to 0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.920 the bottom Scott to kill the big old buck. And 0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:57.640 he should, man, how we're gonna get this bug out 0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.839 of here? And I said, I'll show you. We're gonna 0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:02.560 get out here. And I just threaded him down and 0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:05.200 tied it together and I just bent down and he 0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:06.680 helped me, and I got him on my back and 0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:08.799 I said, there you carry a gun. I'm talking. It's 0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:11.800 straight up. And I said him to take my time 0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.760 and he'll day. I went right up that mountain, grabbing 0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:17.120 tree to tree and carried his buck out of the 0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:19.640 mountain for nice. You know what, I was thinking the 0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.400 whole time as the best plan we come up with. 0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:28.040 We stayed in the night before up there what we 0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:32.240 call the Parker Place, and we were all is blue 0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:34.960 coal that I mean, it was cold, but he's all 0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:36.840 laying there and they're sleeping bags, and all of a 0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:42.200 sudden we heard out there the you know what, you know, 0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:45.080 get a little closer, and I'm not kidding you. There 0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:48.120 was an armadilla. Well you know it was thought it 0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:54.600 was a black panther. It cub between the tents, didn't. 0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:01.200 I mean, we've just been there, remember, you know, armandals 0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:04.160 can't see very well. Yeah, and he got running by 0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:17.160 and he just square centers and ice chest and Steve goes. 0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:29.560 He goes at Arbydale's wondered that here launy one of 0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:32.279 the greatest stories though about Stevens. One night we've we've 0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:35.360 been hunting that on the lake and and it was 0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:38.680 me and Scott and Tim and we didn't get out 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:42.360 the way after dark and you got to load the 0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.840 boat and get everything go on. And we're coming up 0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:47.240 the highway and all of a sudden we get service. 0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:52.279 And Stevens called Scott ten times. She's called me half 0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:56.880 a dozen times. There's voicemail after voicemail, there's mis calls, 0:44:56.960 --> 0:45:03.160 there's text messages. Somebody's dying smail. I mean, what can 0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:10.360 I say? But anyway, Steve shot a buck and and uh, 0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:13.120 he's uh, he's needs to help finding he's a man. 0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:14.960 There's a there's a ton of blood. So here we are. 0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:19.839 It's it's nine thirty, nine thirty, ten o'clock till after dark. Yeah, 0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:24.240 I mean it's anyway, Scott tell the story that I'll 0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:27.640 get in there here to minute. Well, when I when 0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:30.680 I listened to the voicemail, Steve, he says, Scott, Hey, 0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:33.680 he said, I'm over here, Aaron stand. It's a stand 0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:36.279 location we have over here. To Aaron stand, he said, 0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:39.279 I've just shot a big buck over here. He said, 0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:43.319 I mean I'm big. And he said, he said, I've 0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.200 got good blood, but I've lost it. I've lost the blood. 0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:48.400 Can y'all bring the dog over here? And it just 0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:50.960 so happened that year we had a dog in camp 0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:55.840 that could trail blood trail And so I hang up 0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:57.440 the phone. I let you know I'm done with a voicemail. 0:45:57.440 --> 0:45:59.120 I look over her dad and said, well, boys are 0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:02.239 not just begun. It's long as rose deal. Let me 0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:04.080 let me just put this. It's one of those Andy 0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:08.359 Brown says we're going on a wildcat van in him 0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:11.000 and I. In the hunting years we've hunted together, we 0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:14.600 have been on a mini wild cat. Man, I'm going wildcat. 0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.520 That's what wait that we called a wildcat. And he said, well, boys, 0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:19.719 were going wild if that means we may be out 0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:23.640 all night. Night. So we get to camp, we load 0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:28.120 the dog, drive up there there and stand Steve. He's 0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:32.600 he's pasting the hole in the ground, he says, boys, 0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:34.920 he said, I've got He said, I've got great blood. 0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:39.440 I mean great blood, and uh, he said, but it 0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:41.799 just goes off down a little kind of a little holler, 0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:43.760 and you come up with the hollar, it just quits. 0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:48.600 And of course we're thinking, well, maybe maybe he just 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:54.080 made a turn or you know how they can do it. Yeah, 0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:56.279 I said, well you hit him good. Steve says, man, 0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:57.920 I had it right behind the shoulder when I shot. 0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:01.360 And I said, well, well, heck, if he's bleeding that 0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:05.640 good chopped on the shoulder. He't far, you know. So 0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:08.880 we walked down there and Steve takes us out to 0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:11.319 where this deer standing when he shot him, and he's not. 0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:13.960 He has not over exaggerated the blood trail. It is 0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:18.440 a fantastic blood trail, one of those you can see, Steve, 0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:20.920 he just poured out. I mean you can see it 0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:24.000 in the flashlight way up in front of you, you know, 0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.960 I mean, just a great blood trail. And I remember 0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:28.839 looking I'd look at Steve. I said, Steve, this dere 0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:32.880 ain't going nowhere blaeding like this. And Steve says, well, Scott, 0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:34.640 I'm telling you, he goes up here and he quits. 0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:38.680 Of course, we got this dog with us. Of course 0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:41.400 it's on the blood. We don't need the dog yet 0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:43.400 because you can see the blood plenty well enough. But 0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:46.239 this dog is trying to pull his collar off. He's 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.680 wanting to get going, you know. And Tim has him 0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:52.680 on on a leash and we go down there and 0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:55.280 just like Steve said, across the little holler just quits. 0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:59.960 No more blood, and we all just kind of assumed 0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:04.000 he turned down hill. You know, deer shot good generally 0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:06.719 doesn't gonna go down here. There's exceptions every rule, because 0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:08.360 I've seen him go up hill, we all probably have. 0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:11.160 But this we just felt like this deer probably turned downhill, 0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:15.360 so the dog was feeling the same way the dog 0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:18.000 turned downhill. We just assumed that the dog was right, 0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:20.319 and off down the mountain we go. And you know, 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.000 even th though the dog you feel like it's on 0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:24.600 the deer, you're still wanting a spot of blood for affirmation, 0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:27.160 you know, And we're all kind of trying to just 0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:29.160 find a spot of blood. We don't find anything. We 0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:31.920 finally get down in the bottom this ridge goes down. 0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:34.680 It hits kind of a cane bottom, and we got 0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:39.000 down in that bottom. The dog kind of turned east 0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:40.640 up the bottom there, and when he did, I just 0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:42.160 looked down on the ground and there was a spot 0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:44.359 of blood and I said, all right, we're for sure 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:47.600 on him. I mean, there's blood right here. And by 0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:49.759 the time I said that, the dog just turns and 0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.200 goes right back up the ridge. We just came off, 0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:54.719 just a little bit further east from where we came off. 0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:58.239 He goes right back up. And I remember us all 0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:01.239 looking at each other going this that, and good, like 0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:03.239 he doesn't need to turn up hill, you know what 0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:05.799 I mean. We just felt like if the deer was 0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:08.400 hurt bad, he wouldn't have turned the hill. That steep 0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:11.600 of a hill. The dog just keeps going up the hill, 0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:13.680 keeps going up the hill, and Tim, you know, he's 0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:16.200 got flashlights and a minute he's out of side up there, 0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:17.960 and we're kind of standing down there at the bottom 0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:21.799 where this bucket turned up, or we thought he turned up, 0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:24.560 and we're sitting there talking and I just walked out 0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:28.320 there about ten or fifteen yards from I tell you 0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:30.560 what I was doing. We will We got off down 0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:33.640 there is just buck scrape under every bush now, and 0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:36.200 I thought, boys, we found the hotspot right here, you know. 0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:39.080 And so I'm walking around down they're just kind of 0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:42.040 looking survey and the buck sign. And about that time 0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:47.160 I find some blood uh north, not up going up 0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:49.880 the ridge, but actually away from the ridge North. I said, guys, 0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:53.040 there's blood right here. I don't think that dog's on 0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:57.719 the right deer. And anyway, I think the dog realized 0:49:57.760 --> 0:49:59.520 that too. He got up there little ways and just 0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:01.960 kind of was done with it and what it was. 0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:05.600 He got on a perfectly healthy deer in the process 0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:08.360 of all. So Tim comes back down the ridge with 0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:10.319 this dog and we walk out there and get him 0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:13.160 on this blood that I've found, and it's back on again, 0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:15.560 the dogs on him again. And here we go across 0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:17.719 this cane bottom, or it's only about fifty or sixty 0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:20.720 yards out there until it hits creek, a big creek, 0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:24.320 like a swimming hole kind of creek, you know what 0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:29.960 I mean. Creek, And uh, we go out there and 0:50:29.960 --> 0:50:32.120 and this cane bottom just goes out there, and when 0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:34.480 it hits the creek bank, it's on it's on the 0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:37.920 channel side of this creek, meaning it's just a bluff 0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:41.800 off to the water, probably a three and a half 0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:46.080 foot four ft drop off into a big hole of 0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:51.960 water that runs back west a hundred yards back west. 0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:56.759 And uh, we said, well, across the creek right here, 0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:01.000 and so you can't cross right there, it's way it's 0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:03.960 over your head. Be So we thought, well, we'll go 0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:06.239 down creek, We'll crossing the shoal. We do that. We 0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:09.920 come back up straight across from where some of us stayed, 0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:12.879 where last blood was, so we knew where to try 0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:14.520 to pick up the blood on the opposite side of 0:51:14.520 --> 0:51:19.040 the creek. We get down there, no blood trip, none whatsoever. 0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:23.640 We we scour the bank, We exhaust all efforts trying. 0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:27.680 The dogs not interested. You can just tell something happened, 0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:32.200 well common sense of to you, Well, maybe the deers 0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:35.920 in the creek. So we start looking. We're shining creek. 0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:41.400 We're walking up down the creek bank and anyway, Steve 0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:43.560 gets away from me. He gets down there down creek, 0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:47.759 probably down creek, downstream, about seventy five yards or so, 0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:51.160 and Steve goes, hey, Scott, come here, what is this 0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:54.160 over here? So I walked down there. Steve stand on 0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:57.160 the banks. What's that right over there? And I shined 0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:59.160 my light. We've got pretty good lights. I'm shining on 0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:02.920 this stuff. It's just a something like a To me, 0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:06.680 it almost looked like just a piece of wood floating 0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:10.000 or like under the surface, maybe just just barely sticking 0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:12.200 out of surfaces creek kind of on another bank over there. 0:52:12.880 --> 0:52:15.640 I said, well, I don't know, Steve, you think that's him? 0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:19.080 I was like, ah, I don't know. Anyway, Tim comes 0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:23.360 over there. We say, Tim, is that what do you 0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:26.239 think that is? Oh? Tim? He looks it over and 0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:29.719 as boys, that's him. And I need no more than 0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:34.640 said that, And Steve is running down the creek. Should 0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:37.520 we let's Steve take it from here back to the show. 0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:40.319 Steve goes, leaves me and Tim standing area, and they 0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:42.960 got the light on him. Yeah, we're holding a light 0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:48.440 on him. Dad. We tell Dad, we said, Dad, dere's 0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:50.520 gonna be west of head. Dad. He works his way 0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:52.880 down the bank until he gets over there and Dad 0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:55.280 confirms it. He looks down and he goes, yeah, boys, 0:52:55.560 --> 0:53:00.319 there's our deer. That's him. And anyway, Steve he down 0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:02.640 in heast, crossed the creek. Steve's built this deer up. 0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:04.440 You know, he's a big buck. He's this that biggest 0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:06.640 buck he's ever shot with his bow. I mean, he 0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:11.399 told us all stuff. And he and Dad's Dad's looking 0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:13.640 at the Dad's looking at this buck. You know, he 0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:15.800 can seem good. We can't see him. Dad's looking straight 0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:20.680 down at him almost, and it's four ft drop off 0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:22.640 off off the bluff into this whole water that's over 0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:24.799 your head deep. So Dad just kind of standing there 0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:28.759 looking at him, you know, and Steve says, and you 0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:32.719 see him. He said, Now, Steve, he said, Now, I 0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:36.279 could be wrong, but I don't think that thing's got 0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:56.520 but spok on one side. Yeah. Ch So Steve finally 0:53:56.560 --> 0:53:59.920 gets around Bill's off of that creek. I mean, he 0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:04.960 just he just hops for the water right there, and 0:54:05.040 --> 0:54:09.080 it's it's cold. I mean it's you know, it's thirty 0:54:09.080 --> 0:54:12.719 degrees and it's nearly midnight. I just bail off in 0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:15.160 there too, and when I do, it's deeper than I thought. 0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:20.319 I'm up and I get my breath, you know, and 0:54:20.320 --> 0:54:21.960 I'm right there with that buck, and I look up 0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:23.400 and then I said, how we gonna get him out here? 0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:30.840 Will I take my belt off? I take my belt. 0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:35.960 I take my belt off, and I wrapped him around 0:54:36.040 --> 0:54:40.000 that deer's horns and I hand him then the belt 0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:44.440 and while he's pulling, I'm shoving. And we shoved this 0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:47.640 buck out on the bank up there. Well, I you know, 0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:49.680 I had to climb out of there four foot up, 0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:52.440 you know. And I get up and by the time 0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:55.080 I get up there and he's looking him over deep. 0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:58.400 We're shoot that thing and he's looking I said, I 0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:00.960 think its aiming right behind his sho older. Well, there 0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:05.560 ain't no hole behind his shoulder, okay, And I've had 0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:07.160 the best hit I ever had. I'm gonna tell you 0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:09.040 boys right now, if you want to kill one dead 0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:16.000 like that, the shoot him in the for more artery. 0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:21.520 But I had got both of them in double double. No, 0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:23.719 I's wainting that old blood. Well, he said, well, we're 0:55:23.719 --> 0:55:28.839 gonna drag him. I ain't taking him out here. I said, 0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:30.000 what do you mean, I said, to see about the 0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:32.279 big book, you're killing you. I ain't taking him out 0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:34.919 he said, I'll never hear the end of Scott Brown. 0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:37.399 And he said he will never let me live this down. 0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:42.480 And the reason that is let me just right. Okay, 0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:46.040 that's not the first one I shot like that was 0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:50.480 part two. That was a part two Part two. The 0:55:50.520 --> 0:55:52.520 first one I did like that down there on the 0:55:52.600 --> 0:55:56.319 hunting deal. We had another wildcat venture about midnight down there, 0:55:57.120 --> 0:56:01.279 and I had we had drove down that afternoon and 0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:04.319 Wayne pet and I had saw the biggest buck I've 0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:07.560 ever seen in Haward County. I'm I'm not joking. Hugh's 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:10.520 probably a one sixty inch buck had a drop time. 0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:13.960 We rushed back to camp get stands. I come back 0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:16.799 and I put it in the oak tree that the 0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:21.600 deer was feeding under with a dope for the exactly 0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:26.319 right there right there in knee tree. Yeah, and I'm 0:56:26.320 --> 0:56:28.200 grunting there right it dark, and all of a sudden 0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:30.840 I hear crash pum pop coming up the hill to me, 0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:32.959 you know, and I think, oh boy, here's of course, 0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:36.440 my left leg was quiver and you know as much 0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:39.160 as these guys, Okay, I just started both hunt and 0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:41.600 you know how that shakes get with the left leg. 0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:44.359 Eight wouldn't settle down. Well, finally it got settled down. 0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:46.279 While I look and here come a nice eight point. 0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:50.759 Well I just drawed back shoot him, and sure enough 0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:54.000 I didn't hear where I supposed to. I him back 0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:58.480 there like that. Well, we foinally got him. I brought that. 0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:00.759 I brought that, and we got Well, we get back 0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:03.640 to camp and Scott he puts in on me. Now, 0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:06.399 Steve flying the world. He got a target and he said, 0:57:06.400 --> 0:57:09.760 a target up back there. Well, I was just stacking 0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:12.479 the marge in there at twenty thirty yards with a target. Well, 0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:17.680 let's hold on out of this. I put the target 0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:20.520 at about twelve yards and that's how far the deer was. 0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:22.960 And I said, Steve, try to miss that target as 0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:25.600 bad as you missed that deer. That's tough to do. 0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:30.480 He's trying to diagnose. Yeah, he's diagnosing tendons on the 0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:36.520 back hind quarters and telling us he shot it. And 0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:39.240 I told him my head to live. So now he's 0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:41.360 out here showing me, trying to tell me what I'm 0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:43.720 doing wrong. And he said, I just can't fig your 0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:47.880 sat And so when now back to part two, I 0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:52.120 shot this book and that happened again. That's a second 0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:55.800 dear I'd killed. Since that happened. We get back to 0:57:55.880 --> 0:57:59.800 camp and he's sitting around. He said, I gotta figures out. 0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:02.840 I think I know what you're doing. I said, well, 0:58:02.920 --> 0:58:04.920 I'd like you tell me what I'm doing, because that 0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:09.640 ain't where I'm aiming going, he said. He said, because 0:58:09.680 --> 0:58:12.080 he's given me this. He said, Now in your mind, 0:58:12.240 --> 0:58:14.480 when the deer comes up, he said, you need to 0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:18.720 anchor the same spot. You need to visualize if you're 0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:21.160 leaning out, you're up thirty foot in the tree. Don't 0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:23.520 just sticky, bow down, lean out, you know. He and 0:58:23.520 --> 0:58:25.400 I've got all this going through my mind. You know, 0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:28.360 I'm thinking all these things. God, I picture him as 0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:32.080 the bo gay, you know. So I'm doing all these things, 0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:33.880 but I'm not hitting the deer where I plan to. 0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:37.640 He's figured it out, he says, I know what you're doing. 0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:39.600 I said, well, what is it? He said, When you 0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:42.400 hit that release, you're jerking your head up to see 0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:45.840 where there's going. That's exactly what I was doing. I'm 0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:49.120 jerk instead of this letting my air do it the 0:58:49.240 --> 0:58:52.480 very next deer. Ill I have not shot another deer 0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:57.960 like that. I have killed deer now, chole Wood. So 0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:02.280 you're diagnosed, diagnosed, But to watch him y'all just had 0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:04.840 to be here if this was live TV, to watch 0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:07.240 him describe to mehow I was doing it. You know, 0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:14.840 this hilarious. But you know we're with hunting. B if 0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:19.240 you didn't have walkat ventures, I mean, I have more fun. 0:59:19.320 --> 0:59:23.640 We have more fun doing crazy stuff. Then you know, 0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:26.640 it's not about like Andy said, it's not about killing 0:59:26.680 --> 0:59:30.800 the deer or you know, turkey hunting. I've called this 0:59:30.840 --> 0:59:33.600 boy right here. I've called all his turkeys but one 0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:36.080 up and the one I didn't call up for him 0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:40.680 his his grandmother was in the hospital having a heartcast 0:59:40.880 --> 0:59:43.520 and fixing to go back. And he's calling me on 0:59:43.560 --> 0:59:46.200 the phone telling me about this turkey and you don't 0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:48.280 where to go get to kill it. And I'm on 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:51.040 the phone with him and tell him while he's in 0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:53.480 the woods and I'm talking whispering to him, and he 0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:57.120 goes up and kills the turkey. So that's not you 0:59:57.160 --> 1:00:00.440 know Gary was talking about, not about the clicking deer clicking. 1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:05.440 One night, I was hunting over in the lake and 1:00:05.480 --> 1:00:07.840 Steve was hunting a little notch and I was hunting. 1:00:08.720 --> 1:00:11.880 It's just a long ridge that I hunt over there. Anyway, 1:00:11.920 --> 1:00:13.080 I was up in my big old pine tree, and 1:00:13.120 --> 1:00:16.760 I was high, and uh, i'd been there all evening 1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:19.280 starting to get dark, and so I started taking my 1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:23.160 stuff off to get down, and all of a sudden 1:00:23.160 --> 1:00:24.480 I heard a deer go to bow and right off 1:00:24.520 --> 1:00:30.800 down the lake from me, and uh, anyway, I thought 1:00:31.000 --> 1:00:32.520 wind was coming right up the leg to me. I 1:00:32.720 --> 1:00:34.400 wasn't winded me. And about that time I could hear 1:00:34.400 --> 1:00:36.240 a deer coming just in a run, just running right 1:00:36.280 --> 1:00:38.880 up but not really running hard, but just dumpty thumpty 1:00:38.920 --> 1:00:43.360 thump cum come right under me and stopped. I was up. 1:00:43.800 --> 1:00:45.400 I was really too high because I had a little 1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:50.360 bit of canopy under me. And uh, I was sitting 1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:53.240 there and miron that deer. In fact, I was gonna 1:00:53.520 --> 1:00:55.400 I didn't. It didn't really matter to me whether there's 1:00:55.400 --> 1:00:58.320 a buck or though. I was gonna shoot it, if 1:00:58.360 --> 1:01:01.120 you know. And about that time I just heard the 1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:04.800 steer coming thump thump, come, just coming right up the ridge. 1:01:05.880 --> 1:01:09.160 That dude gets right out there I'm talking about, just 1:01:09.160 --> 1:01:12.760 just right there. And now it's late and that dude 1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:24.439 goes just like that. Yeah, And of course my hat 1:01:24.520 --> 1:01:26.320 was standing about that. I old man, I never heard 1:01:26.320 --> 1:01:28.880 what do that before. I'm just that clicking, you know. 1:01:29.520 --> 1:01:31.200 And when I seen him, he walked out and he 1:01:31.240 --> 1:01:33.120 had his tailed up, had his nose on the ground, 1:01:33.560 --> 1:01:35.600 and I could see horns, and I just pulled in 1:01:35.600 --> 1:01:37.960 the middle of him. It's his lady Bavitt. Well, I 1:01:37.960 --> 1:01:43.400 heard it hit him, so I shooting down and I 1:01:43.480 --> 1:01:45.840 get down there. Of course I've hit him back. I 1:01:46.280 --> 1:01:47.960 hit him too far back. I got on the air 1:01:48.000 --> 1:01:49.440 and so I just stuck at dude in the ground. 1:01:50.000 --> 1:01:52.200 I just walked out quite a way. He's in there. 1:01:52.280 --> 1:01:55.360 So I went back and Stephen shot one. And and 1:01:55.400 --> 1:01:57.919 that's another story. Scott to come over there to try 1:01:57.960 --> 1:02:00.400 to help find Steve's in the ryde. Know when you 1:02:00.520 --> 1:02:03.160 when the coat coat can run thirty three miles. Now 1:02:03.200 --> 1:02:04.959 I can't run thirty four, but he can run thirty 1:02:06.600 --> 1:02:13.680 I can. But anyway, Uh, they come over. We looked 1:02:13.680 --> 1:02:15.640 for Steve. Did five Steve. So we went in there, 1:02:15.640 --> 1:02:18.120 and back in those days we used to get stuff 1:02:18.120 --> 1:02:23.960 called blue Star, but it was blue Star, and we 1:02:24.000 --> 1:02:26.320 took that with us on ever hunt, and I don't 1:02:26.320 --> 1:02:30.320 know how many hunts that saved us, because that deer 1:02:30.640 --> 1:02:32.800 we went back to where it was. The deer had 1:02:32.880 --> 1:02:36.600 good blood going downhill. When he turned uphill, when he 1:02:36.640 --> 1:02:40.600 turned up, it is quit. And Scott said, of course 1:02:40.600 --> 1:02:42.000 we had a body gotta shake it up. And little 1:02:42.000 --> 1:02:47.800 tablet turn all yours and turn all your lights off, 1:02:47.840 --> 1:02:49.960 and said turned lights off. And of course he sprayed 1:02:50.000 --> 1:02:52.439 like that, and what what had happened? We had never 1:02:53.160 --> 1:02:55.919 he just turned he done ninety there, turned double back 1:02:55.960 --> 1:02:59.720 and he went right off. I'm telling you, just the steepest, 1:03:00.720 --> 1:03:05.600 just straight down, right down a little old holler. And anyway, 1:03:05.640 --> 1:03:09.920 we tracked him off down there to the creek, tracked 1:03:09.960 --> 1:03:12.080 him across the creek and he got up there. And 1:03:12.120 --> 1:03:15.800 when he crossed the creek. Uh, we didn't go far 1:03:15.800 --> 1:03:17.960 out there until he had laid down, found it where 1:03:17.960 --> 1:03:20.520 he had laid. But when he got up, he kind 1:03:20.520 --> 1:03:23.840 of walked on in towards the ridge and we kind 1:03:23.840 --> 1:03:29.560 of lost him in anyway, Um, finally we did it 1:03:29.600 --> 1:03:32.919 again and he had turned down an old road run 1:03:33.000 --> 1:03:34.720 right along the edge of the ridge, and he went 1:03:36.080 --> 1:03:38.560 what would you say, a hundred yards down there. Probably 1:03:39.080 --> 1:03:42.600 he went all the way to the water and turned 1:03:42.600 --> 1:03:45.280 around and come back. He was actually laying face us, 1:03:45.880 --> 1:03:47.720 and I mean he he hadn't been dead long, he 1:03:47.760 --> 1:03:50.840 was still and we just rolled him up. We gutted him, 1:03:50.880 --> 1:03:52.840 rolled him back in the lake, tied him to a stump, 1:03:52.880 --> 1:03:55.360 and the next morning we drove in put a boat 1:03:55.400 --> 1:03:57.000 into the lake and drove in there with a boat 1:03:57.040 --> 1:04:00.960 and coming got him. But that was another wildcat, miserable 1:04:01.000 --> 1:04:03.400 we found him. But that bull Star was good stuff. 1:04:04.240 --> 1:04:06.520 That was a big point clicking. But but but Scott as 1:04:06.520 --> 1:04:07.760 we said, how big he is? I I don't know 1:04:07.760 --> 1:04:10.240 he's legal. I couldn't tell you it's one seventy or 1:04:10.320 --> 1:04:12.560 or basketade. But he's a you know when he when 1:04:12.560 --> 1:04:20.920 he went to clicking, I'm a shooting. Uh. Um. I've 1:04:21.000 --> 1:04:23.880 got to ask you guys, so of all the stories 1:04:24.240 --> 1:04:27.400 that you've heard on these two podcasts, and I'll say 1:04:27.800 --> 1:04:31.720 I've had incredible feedback on these two podcasts. You know, 1:04:31.800 --> 1:04:35.320 It's kind of hard to rate feedback from me because 1:04:35.400 --> 1:04:37.480 I hear a lot of stuff from different people, and 1:04:37.520 --> 1:04:41.080 we do so much, so much variety between like doing 1:04:41.240 --> 1:04:46.840 Frontiersman or or highlighting somebody for you know, dry ground 1:04:46.840 --> 1:04:50.200 mountain lion hunting in Arizona, like this style of podcasts 1:04:50.200 --> 1:04:54.680 that we just did, this this collection of stories. Um, 1:04:54.720 --> 1:04:58.360 I had people just loved it. I got really a 1:04:58.400 --> 1:05:01.120 lot of great feedback, and I'm always shocked any time 1:05:01.160 --> 1:05:04.320 I asked someone, I say, what was your favorite story? 1:05:04.440 --> 1:05:08.680 Just random friend? They surprised me every time because in 1:05:08.720 --> 1:05:11.720 my mind I'm thinking, Oh, it's for sure gonna be this, 1:05:12.120 --> 1:05:17.040 and they'll tell me this other story. But uh, Branny, 1:05:17.120 --> 1:05:19.080 what what was? What was your favorite story you heard? 1:05:19.320 --> 1:05:22.360 Can't pick your own, I'm not I'm not kissing your story. 1:05:22.520 --> 1:05:27.360 Your story was many people's favorite, the mind shaft buck 1:05:28.800 --> 1:05:32.560 unique and you told it well too. What's what's awesome 1:05:32.600 --> 1:05:34.680 about that story? Then I'll move on to your question? Here? 1:05:34.760 --> 1:05:38.840 Is that again? I didn't. I grew up in a 1:05:38.880 --> 1:05:41.160 house with my dad worked for the Fourth Service for 1:05:41.240 --> 1:05:44.000 thirty seven years. He didn't one go in the woods 1:05:44.040 --> 1:05:46.160 on his days off. He knew her all the deer, 1:05:46.200 --> 1:05:47.800 all the turkey and all that was, but he had 1:05:47.800 --> 1:05:50.160 no interest in going on his day off. So I 1:05:50.200 --> 1:05:53.560 didn't grow up that way. So it wasn't until my 1:05:53.920 --> 1:05:57.080 thirties really that I really start hunting. And it was 1:05:57.400 --> 1:06:02.840 working with Scott and talking to Andy and Steve Um, 1:06:02.920 --> 1:06:06.400 learning about wind and food and you know where to 1:06:06.480 --> 1:06:09.000 get and it's I mean it was instant. I mean 1:06:09.040 --> 1:06:10.800 I picked up a bow. Scott told me how to 1:06:10.800 --> 1:06:14.160 shoot a bow. I was seeing keep your head down 1:06:14.160 --> 1:06:18.760 on the peep side my first season bow. Honey, I'm 1:06:18.760 --> 1:06:22.120 seeing mature bucks, which is just unheard of. But you know, 1:06:22.200 --> 1:06:25.560 it just couldn't quite get it all put together. Um. 1:06:25.640 --> 1:06:30.479 So that hunt worked out well because I was able 1:06:30.520 --> 1:06:33.520 to on the spot, assess the situation, figure out, you know, 1:06:33.560 --> 1:06:35.200 what the plan was, where to get and all that 1:06:35.280 --> 1:06:39.920 kind of stuff. So, um, I wrote some notes from 1:06:39.960 --> 1:06:43.960 from the podcast last week, and uh, I did. I 1:06:44.000 --> 1:06:46.320 did my homework conn those points with me if you 1:06:46.320 --> 1:06:51.600 take notes on podcast. So uh, James Lawrence said something 1:06:51.640 --> 1:06:56.840 about the number eleven caps from the muzzleloader, and I 1:06:56.920 --> 1:07:00.520 have a disdain for those things, like I hate on bad. 1:07:01.320 --> 1:07:04.160 The very next year, or the year after I killed 1:07:04.160 --> 1:07:07.680 that mind chef Buck, I scouted a newer and I 1:07:07.720 --> 1:07:09.160 did it on my own this time. This is the 1:07:09.200 --> 1:07:11.360 first time I'm going on public land. I'm scouting out 1:07:11.360 --> 1:07:13.960 an area for myself. I find the spot. I'm on 1:07:14.000 --> 1:07:16.360 the other side of that mountain so that deer cannot 1:07:16.360 --> 1:07:21.040 fall in a hole. And I just I planned it out, 1:07:21.120 --> 1:07:23.280 and you know, like this this is gonna this is 1:07:23.280 --> 1:07:26.080 gonna be good. I see a buck that rivals that 1:07:26.240 --> 1:07:31.360 buck or maybe bigger, and don't tell these guys about it. 1:07:31.520 --> 1:07:36.960 He's leaving. Uh, he's leaving me. Steve probably knows exactly 1:07:36.960 --> 1:07:41.240 where I'm at, but Uh, he's leaving. And I got 1:07:41.240 --> 1:07:43.320 one shot and it was probably a little too far 1:07:43.480 --> 1:07:46.600 and I missed. But when the smoke cleared, that dude 1:07:46.640 --> 1:07:49.600 had ran all the way up underneath my stand. And 1:07:49.720 --> 1:07:51.840 I'd learned a lesson the year four. Start reloading. As 1:07:51.880 --> 1:07:53.840 soon as soon as you shoot, start reloading. So I 1:07:53.840 --> 1:07:57.640 am reloading and I can't get that number eleven cap 1:07:58.520 --> 1:08:00.320 you know. I think I dropped one, and then I'm 1:08:00.320 --> 1:08:02.000 trying to get the other one, and I'm trying to 1:08:02.040 --> 1:08:04.640 hold it together because this buck is like, I'm kind 1:08:04.640 --> 1:08:06.200 of up a little ridge. But he is right. If 1:08:06.200 --> 1:08:08.040 I had a bow, i'd kill him. I mean, he 1:08:08.120 --> 1:08:11.800 was right there, and as soon as I'm starting to 1:08:11.800 --> 1:08:15.800 get that in, he's gone. And never never got the 1:08:15.840 --> 1:08:18.120 second shot off because I couldn't get that number eleven. 1:08:18.160 --> 1:08:21.519 So I can relate to that story there. I can 1:08:21.560 --> 1:08:26.200 also relate to uh Janice's story because he's forty three 1:08:26.240 --> 1:08:29.639 and he just killed his first buck with a bow too, 1:08:29.720 --> 1:08:33.000 So there's hope for me. I've killed plenty of those, 1:08:33.320 --> 1:08:35.120 you know, out of a stand with the bow, but 1:08:35.200 --> 1:08:37.920 I've yet, I've yet to kill a good buck or 1:08:38.040 --> 1:08:41.400 a buck with with a bow. So um, I thought 1:08:41.400 --> 1:08:44.519 that was pretty awesome because, hey, you actually teed me 1:08:44.600 --> 1:08:46.000 up to do something I meant to do at the 1:08:46.080 --> 1:08:50.439 very beginning. Everybody and their brother. Everybody and their brother 1:08:50.479 --> 1:08:53.920 has told me that Joannice got the date wrong. Does 1:08:54.000 --> 1:08:57.920 y'all any of y'all catch that? Huh not? Oh? Like 1:08:58.040 --> 1:09:03.160 ten thousand people message Jannice he got his years wrong, 1:09:03.240 --> 1:09:07.920 and he said that he killed the buck in in November, 1:09:09.800 --> 1:09:14.599 only October two, right now, So anyway, okay, for the record, everyone, 1:09:14.800 --> 1:09:17.519 thank you for letting me know that you honest got 1:09:17.520 --> 1:09:23.799 the date wrong. Story deserves some embellishment. Yeah, yeah, he uh, 1:09:23.840 --> 1:09:26.320 he was telling it was a combination of like two 1:09:26.400 --> 1:09:28.280 years and he's kind of going back and forth, and 1:09:28.400 --> 1:09:31.680 he told the story from the perspective of being and 1:09:33.680 --> 1:09:37.200 so anyway, so as great of a hundred as he 1:09:37.400 --> 1:09:39.679 is to know that he's still got thinks he's checking 1:09:39.680 --> 1:09:42.040 off the box. Gives everybody hope. You know that you're 1:09:42.040 --> 1:09:44.280 gonna be able to do it, but not not to 1:09:44.360 --> 1:09:47.639 kiss up. Or you have three stories, but my favorite, 1:09:47.640 --> 1:09:50.479 and I listened to it twice and and I've played 1:09:50.520 --> 1:09:55.360 it for people, was your story, uh with Harvey. The 1:09:55.400 --> 1:09:57.679 way you told that story and the way it went 1:09:57.800 --> 1:10:01.040 back and forth. And I love the deck diconomy of 1:10:01.560 --> 1:10:04.280 you have all the data he gets in the tree 1:10:04.360 --> 1:10:07.040 the first time, you know, And that's just the way 1:10:07.080 --> 1:10:11.920 it works. So I've actually quit putting corn and hanging 1:10:11.960 --> 1:10:14.120 cameras and all that because it'll just make you sick. 1:10:15.120 --> 1:10:17.719 I had a I had a buck. I named him Tebow, 1:10:17.840 --> 1:10:20.160 just like you named him moose. He had fifteen points 1:10:20.200 --> 1:10:23.320 on him. Um, this is the first year I'm really 1:10:23.360 --> 1:10:26.160 bow hunting, and we corned. I had so many big 1:10:26.200 --> 1:10:28.439 bucks on this piece of property. I was getting hunt 1:10:28.439 --> 1:10:34.000 and that one came in and it I had one 1:10:34.200 --> 1:10:37.719 evening where I had been in the stand, I had 1:10:37.760 --> 1:10:40.000 bucks around me. I just couldn't quite get a shot 1:10:40.040 --> 1:10:41.800 off because I didn't they didn't quite come in my 1:10:41.840 --> 1:10:45.280 shooting lanes. And I just an awesome not hunting. And 1:10:45.360 --> 1:10:48.360 it got dark and I'm close to the train tracks. 1:10:48.400 --> 1:10:50.360 So as soon as that Steve's taking note over here 1:10:50.479 --> 1:10:53.200 was train track and property, like he's he's gonna figure 1:10:53.200 --> 1:10:56.280 me out here. Uh, but the train goes through, So 1:10:56.320 --> 1:10:58.200 I use that as a cover sound to climb out 1:10:58.200 --> 1:11:00.080 of the stand at dark. And as soon as I 1:11:00.120 --> 1:11:04.000 get down, there's t bow and my bow is hanging 1:11:04.040 --> 1:11:06.960 from the string and like there's no way I'm gonna 1:11:06.960 --> 1:11:09.519 get all together. And of course he's with two other bucks. 1:11:09.560 --> 1:11:12.360 Since I think it was an early hunting season that year, 1:11:12.400 --> 1:11:14.200 so you can still get on those summer bucks, and 1:11:15.000 --> 1:11:17.599 they were gone. And then I heard a story later 1:11:17.640 --> 1:11:21.040 and somebody described that buck to a t and killed it. 1:11:21.200 --> 1:11:23.599 You couldn't find it and couldn't find it, so he's 1:11:24.360 --> 1:11:28.000 he has not been found. Never saw him again. Next year, 1:11:28.200 --> 1:11:32.000 same thing, big buck on there, he's a he's a 1:11:32.280 --> 1:11:35.320 probably a twelve point. Got him on camera, getting on 1:11:35.320 --> 1:11:37.760 the corner like okay, I'm gonna get this buck, and 1:11:37.760 --> 1:11:40.920 then Scott sends me a picture. We keep bringing up 1:11:40.920 --> 1:11:44.799 Tim Clark a lot, but Tim had somebody that showed 1:11:44.840 --> 1:11:46.800 him this deer they hit with their car on the 1:11:46.880 --> 1:11:51.360 highway and it was just the deer's head like flies, 1:11:51.520 --> 1:11:54.240 and I'm like, that's my buck. So it's like you know, 1:11:55.920 --> 1:11:58.800 you know, you just can't. You just can't. The best 1:11:58.840 --> 1:12:01.839 thing and I wish I had said it real clearly 1:12:01.880 --> 1:12:05.519 on the moose story, is it really was pretty cool 1:12:05.640 --> 1:12:08.599 that a hunter that knew what he was doing, even 1:12:08.600 --> 1:12:11.000 though it was his first hunt on that property and 1:12:11.040 --> 1:12:14.679 put an awesome shot on it. I mean, so many deer, 1:12:14.960 --> 1:12:17.400 just like what you said, get hit by a car 1:12:17.520 --> 1:12:21.240 or just disappear and you just lose track of them. 1:12:21.479 --> 1:12:24.679 I was so grateful, I really was that that big 1:12:24.720 --> 1:12:28.160 deer that I was able to track it down and 1:12:28.160 --> 1:12:30.519 it was killed by a hunter. That's a good way 1:12:30.560 --> 1:12:33.160 for an old buck to die. Is it the hands 1:12:33.200 --> 1:12:36.920 of a seasoned hunter or or a young hunt? Just 1:12:36.920 --> 1:12:41.559 just a legal hunting experience for somebody. Absolutely, And to 1:12:41.640 --> 1:12:43.599 hear him, you know how, remember me was that ten 1:12:43.680 --> 1:12:48.559 years later get emotional about it? Just means that man 1:12:48.960 --> 1:12:51.680 that worked out the way it's supposed to. Yeah, you know, 1:12:51.760 --> 1:12:57.439 I can confirm the night the evening that moose was shot, 1:12:57.880 --> 1:13:00.640 you called me and you said, hey, man, I got 1:13:00.720 --> 1:13:03.040 some news for you. And I was like, oh yeah, 1:13:03.160 --> 1:13:05.639 and I remember exactly what you said. You said, moose 1:13:05.840 --> 1:13:10.280 is dead. And when you said that, I thought, holy cow, 1:13:10.880 --> 1:13:14.240 you finally got killed, and before I could even think that, 1:13:14.280 --> 1:13:18.400 you went, yeah, a guy on the neighboring property killed him. 1:13:18.439 --> 1:13:21.120 And I remember being sick for you, Like I was 1:13:21.160 --> 1:13:23.640 just sitting there thinking, because you'd sent me pictures that 1:13:23.680 --> 1:13:26.240 deer for four years in a row and told me 1:13:26.280 --> 1:13:28.400 all this stuff, and I can remember thinking how sick 1:13:28.479 --> 1:13:30.880 you must have been. But I remember you telling me 1:13:32.120 --> 1:13:35.280 that you weren't as upset about it. You were just 1:13:35.320 --> 1:13:38.040 glad it was over. I remember you saying, I'm just 1:13:38.080 --> 1:13:41.320 glad it's over, Like there was a sense of relief 1:13:42.240 --> 1:13:45.680 that you didn't have to spend another minute trying to 1:13:45.680 --> 1:13:47.680 figure out where to shoot that deer or whatever it 1:13:47.680 --> 1:13:50.120 consumed you for about four years. That's a good point 1:13:50.160 --> 1:13:53.720 that I kind of that's become so normal to me, 1:13:54.520 --> 1:13:58.479 that feeling it was almost relief that that deer was killed. 1:13:58.720 --> 1:14:00.920 And then ten years later and I can kind of 1:14:00.920 --> 1:14:04.400 talk about this now, I had another big deer in 1:14:04.439 --> 1:14:08.920 the same area that I was hunting, exact same scenario, 1:14:10.120 --> 1:14:13.360 and uh almost dreaded it. And it was a big 1:14:13.360 --> 1:14:16.160 deer too, I mean a big deer, like hundred and 1:14:16.160 --> 1:14:19.920 seventy inch type deer, and I had shot at the 1:14:19.960 --> 1:14:21.880 deer the year before, when it was like a one 1:14:22.000 --> 1:14:25.680 fifty muzzloader misfired. There was at thirty five yards. I 1:14:25.680 --> 1:14:27.559 mean just dead. I mean, this deer is walking up. 1:14:27.600 --> 1:14:31.040 I've got a muzzloader in my hand. I'm like about 1:14:31.040 --> 1:14:35.479 the text of Taxidermist, you know, and uh, I shoot 1:14:35.520 --> 1:14:40.439 that muzzloader and it just fizzles. The deer lives. The 1:14:40.479 --> 1:14:44.479 next year, the deer is a hunt. I mean, no doubt, 1:14:44.640 --> 1:14:48.800 hundred and seventy inch deer. And I'm certain that deer 1:14:48.840 --> 1:14:52.080 is dead too. But when when all that was going down, 1:14:52.080 --> 1:14:55.360 ten years later, another big buck there, I was almost like, 1:14:55.960 --> 1:14:59.280 I don't want to do this again. I got one 1:14:59.280 --> 1:15:01.720 out that the been hunting for. This will be the 1:15:01.760 --> 1:15:07.760 fourth year. But you you wait, like Randy was saying 1:15:07.760 --> 1:15:10.479 about the cameras, you look and you look, and you look, 1:15:10.520 --> 1:15:11.760 and you don't get him. You don't get him. You 1:15:11.800 --> 1:15:14.920 thinks something's happened to him, and you wonder, and you 1:15:15.000 --> 1:15:18.000 wonder and wondering. All of a sudden, you get this picture. 1:15:20.320 --> 1:15:23.639 And he showed me a picture that was him last year. 1:15:24.160 --> 1:15:29.559 But this one here is the same. Deer may find 1:15:29.600 --> 1:15:37.200 him here and it's scrolling through his photos here, this 1:15:37.280 --> 1:15:39.280 is this is the way it goes. I was just there, 1:15:39.360 --> 1:15:43.519 we'll go head him. But I had him the day 1:15:43.560 --> 1:15:49.640 before season two years ago, had a daylight picture of 1:15:49.720 --> 1:15:58.120 him and unbelievable. That's the way he goes. Anyway, you'll 1:15:58.120 --> 1:16:01.000 go ahead and talking short to a minute. But anyway, 1:15:59.960 --> 1:16:03.080 if you just had just you just don't know. And 1:16:03.160 --> 1:16:05.320 this year he's not showed up like he was last year. 1:16:05.360 --> 1:16:10.040 He didn't show up too late, got him two different times. Um, 1:16:10.280 --> 1:16:18.760 right here he is four last giant eight points he's 1:16:18.760 --> 1:16:21.720 got I'd say that g two right, there's fifteen inches long. 1:16:22.640 --> 1:16:26.320 I mean it's it's it's huge monster. But you know 1:16:26.600 --> 1:16:28.960 we've talked about that, Scott and I. You don't really 1:16:28.960 --> 1:16:32.519 know where he stays. You know, he shows up that 1:16:32.720 --> 1:16:34.479 two or three years ago. We had him a lot 1:16:34.680 --> 1:16:37.840 at night. But those guys don't get that big. But 1:16:38.000 --> 1:16:43.160 being stupid, they know how to survive. Um. I was 1:16:43.200 --> 1:16:47.360 just about to ask the Believer what his favorite story was, 1:16:47.400 --> 1:16:50.120 and he took a bride of Brownie. Of all the stories, 1:16:50.360 --> 1:16:52.400 which one stood out to you? Not your favorite? It's 1:16:52.400 --> 1:16:55.679 hard people asking about my favorite. There's all these stories 1:16:55.720 --> 1:16:58.920 are different. Like Andy his second story he told wasn't 1:16:58.960 --> 1:17:01.959 even the story that was gonna be on the podcast. 1:17:02.040 --> 1:17:04.000 I just liked it. So it's hard to compare like 1:17:04.080 --> 1:17:07.920 Andy telling about his little story admit, you know, shorter 1:17:08.400 --> 1:17:11.559 in time story to a big thirty minute story that 1:17:11.600 --> 1:17:13.600 we told. So favorite story is the wrong way to 1:17:13.640 --> 1:17:16.679 say it. What stories stood out to you, Dad? Well, 1:17:17.200 --> 1:17:20.240 the I just listened to the last, you know, I 1:17:20.280 --> 1:17:22.360 listened to both of them. But when I'm thinking of 1:17:22.960 --> 1:17:29.720 the second podcast where Andy told his and you're You're 1:17:29.760 --> 1:17:33.719 Buck wouldn't in that, I was really impressed with thrill kills, 1:17:35.240 --> 1:17:38.880 you know. I mean he dispensed some information that of course, 1:17:39.080 --> 1:17:41.320 the way I hunt, I couldn't. I couldn't do that. 1:17:41.400 --> 1:17:43.800 I mean, you know, it just takes too much time 1:17:43.840 --> 1:17:46.960 and patience. But you could tell that guy knows what 1:17:47.000 --> 1:17:48.920 the heck he's doing. I'm telling you he is a 1:17:49.080 --> 1:17:58.960 thinking hunter. That was in my notes and story. But yeah, 1:17:59.840 --> 1:18:01.920 you know, I like the way he told the story. 1:18:01.960 --> 1:18:04.360 I like everything about that story, but I like the 1:18:04.479 --> 1:18:08.760 knowledge that was behind how he hunts. You know, he 1:18:08.800 --> 1:18:11.760 took two guys put their stories to get, you know, 1:18:12.120 --> 1:18:16.559 how to hunt, and then applied it. And uh so 1:18:16.720 --> 1:18:20.160 you know, you're trying to learn how to hunt, and 1:18:20.200 --> 1:18:22.960 you go out on your own, monkey around. Are you 1:18:23.640 --> 1:18:26.280 pick up a book or get with guys like Scott 1:18:26.280 --> 1:18:30.639 and Andy or Clay and you learned every But he 1:18:30.640 --> 1:18:34.559 he put two really great hunters together. How they did it, 1:18:35.160 --> 1:18:37.800 put it together and made it well. He gave some 1:18:37.880 --> 1:18:41.840 good Uh that Brad Herndon. He talked about how and 1:18:41.960 --> 1:18:45.160 his takeaway was Herndon says, all the signs down low, 1:18:45.400 --> 1:18:48.320 but hunt up high in the gaps and saddles in 1:18:48.360 --> 1:18:51.720 mountain country, daily country, even if there's not signing the gap, 1:18:51.840 --> 1:18:54.000 so they're gonna end up up there. It was good. 1:18:54.520 --> 1:18:57.439 And then the other guy was talking about thermal's wind 1:18:57.520 --> 1:19:00.040 and thermals and you know, he he was able to 1:19:00.160 --> 1:19:04.559 put it all together. Uh, your story was probably the 1:19:04.640 --> 1:19:08.479 most intriguing. But I appreciated thrillt Kill story a bunch, 1:19:09.400 --> 1:19:13.680 uh just because of a surprise ending. Man. Uh, I'm 1:19:13.720 --> 1:19:17.880 a sucker for a surprise ending finding. About ten years later, 1:19:17.920 --> 1:19:20.559 I thought that's pretty good. Yeah, it was. Unfortunately, I 1:19:20.600 --> 1:19:22.960 don't I don't. I don't like not finding a deer. 1:19:23.000 --> 1:19:25.280 I mean, I'm not you know, I've passed on a 1:19:25.320 --> 1:19:28.120 whole lot of deer, you know, just because you know, 1:19:28.160 --> 1:19:30.880 I don't I don't like not finding one, but it 1:19:30.960 --> 1:19:36.720 just happens. And uh, you know, liver shot, dear, it's 1:19:36.760 --> 1:19:42.479 not gonna go three or four hundred yards, but sometimes 1:19:42.520 --> 1:19:46.160 it's pretty difficult. It's kind of difficult to find them 1:19:46.160 --> 1:19:49.599 when they just stopped bleeding. Dave any of them stand 1:19:49.600 --> 1:19:52.639 out to you? Yeah, I was gonna tell the truth there. 1:19:52.640 --> 1:19:54.600 If man, you've been hunting a lot longer than the 1:19:54.640 --> 1:19:56.000 bowl and I have. But if you need me to 1:19:56.000 --> 1:19:57.840 teach you that shot where you can get a lot 1:19:57.880 --> 1:20:00.559 of blood and get them do one of I'll teach 1:20:00.600 --> 1:20:03.679 you that shot that I've got. You know, you need 1:20:03.720 --> 1:20:07.400 to know how to do that. You need to Randy 1:20:07.439 --> 1:20:12.920 from the spot in the wrong spot. Man, we hit them, 1:20:12.960 --> 1:20:16.479 we just have to chase, you know. But I liked that, 1:20:16.760 --> 1:20:19.840 you know, I liked that number second podcast. And what 1:20:19.920 --> 1:20:22.240 I liked about it you had four stories where they 1:20:22.360 --> 1:20:26.080 didn't get bucks and four stories where they did get bucks, 1:20:26.520 --> 1:20:29.640 and and what I got about all that like Andy's 1:20:29.760 --> 1:20:35.080 Andy story. I really liked that story. That we all 1:20:35.080 --> 1:20:38.800 have hunter had hunters have been there. I don't know 1:20:38.840 --> 1:20:41.479 of a one of us that hadn't lost the buck 1:20:41.640 --> 1:20:44.479 or you know, had these kind of shots you know, 1:20:44.600 --> 1:20:49.000 or whatever, you know, and for him to find that sheds. 1:20:49.880 --> 1:20:52.960 You know, my son in law, he of years back. 1:20:53.360 --> 1:20:56.400 He didn't hunt much, but he he killed a one 1:20:56.479 --> 1:21:00.479 sixty eight inch buck and made a good shot on it, 1:21:00.560 --> 1:21:03.160 but couldn't find it. And it took him a week 1:21:03.400 --> 1:21:05.800 going back out and hunting and going back out and 1:21:05.880 --> 1:21:10.599 hunting it until he took his wife, my daughter. They 1:21:10.680 --> 1:21:14.439 he found it. He saw some crows and buzzards and 1:21:14.479 --> 1:21:16.759 went up on top of the mountain and he found 1:21:16.800 --> 1:21:19.360 that buck and it's mounted in his house right now. 1:21:19.720 --> 1:21:22.160 The codies had already eat it, eat the hide off 1:21:22.240 --> 1:21:24.200 of it. But he got the he got the deer, 1:21:24.240 --> 1:21:27.880 he got the horns. So that this shows you, you know, 1:21:27.960 --> 1:21:31.040 if you kill something big like that, the persistency to 1:21:31.160 --> 1:21:33.400 stay after it to try to find it. But I 1:21:33.760 --> 1:21:37.120 know we've all been there, we've all been in that situation. 1:21:37.280 --> 1:21:41.040 So it was really interesting that podcast Cody's ran up 1:21:41.040 --> 1:21:47.040 there at thirty three. Yeah, they probably did. No can't 1:21:47.040 --> 1:21:48.960 stop real quick or that thing you know you're just 1:21:49.040 --> 1:21:52.280 running right over. I'm gonna tell you it's real funny. 1:21:52.320 --> 1:21:56.240 Andy story and of course Andy and Scott and his 1:21:56.280 --> 1:21:58.400 a couple years older Scott. But I've been around Andy 1:21:58.439 --> 1:22:02.640 ever since he was a little boy. Anyway, worked with 1:22:02.720 --> 1:22:06.439 his dad for several years. Gary and anyway, we were 1:22:06.640 --> 1:22:09.800 we were camped down at uh uh fault in Spring 1:22:09.840 --> 1:22:13.679 Schoolhouse down south to six and uh back in those 1:22:13.760 --> 1:22:16.320 days we was hunting with J. C. McMillan and Larry 1:22:16.360 --> 1:22:18.040 and all that bunch, and there was a whole bo 1:22:18.160 --> 1:22:21.360 dawn trees. And but anyway, we're gonna make a deer 1:22:21.400 --> 1:22:25.320 drive one day and j C. Instead of happened stance, 1:22:25.400 --> 1:22:26.960 he said, well, now somebody needs to get down that 1:22:27.040 --> 1:22:29.080 swag you know, down there, and then somebody down there 1:22:29.080 --> 1:22:31.080 at the dead end on the road, and somebody down 1:22:31.160 --> 1:22:33.679 on the creek. Anyway, so he said, uh, he said 1:22:33.720 --> 1:22:42.639 to Gary and Andy. Andy was about probably, and he said, 1:22:42.880 --> 1:22:44.679 why don't you take Indy and you all go Donner 1:22:44.680 --> 1:22:47.960 and get on the creek and where you had to 1:22:48.000 --> 1:22:50.320 park to go to the creeks A long ways And 1:22:50.360 --> 1:22:52.479 I had just bought me I'll tell you how long ago. 1:22:52.560 --> 1:22:57.160 It was nineteen probably nineteen eighty six, So ain'tybody probably 1:22:57.200 --> 1:23:01.200 been tenorally at that time? I had a brand new 1:23:01.320 --> 1:23:09.559 nine five Susuki three. It's a three liard I mean, 1:23:09.760 --> 1:23:11.680 had the guns scabbard on it in the racks. I 1:23:11.680 --> 1:23:14.600 mean it was it was a hot dog, I said, Gary, 1:23:14.880 --> 1:23:16.720 I said it said, of y'all having to walk all 1:23:16.760 --> 1:23:18.320 the way down there, I said, why don't you take 1:23:18.360 --> 1:23:22.000 that three wheeler? He said, you don't care, Well, he 1:23:22.240 --> 1:23:24.080 never rode a three wheeler in his life. I said, no, 1:23:24.240 --> 1:23:28.160 just hop on that. So they off of it and 1:23:28.240 --> 1:23:30.479 he gets behind and they got their guns laid out, 1:23:30.520 --> 1:23:34.400 and we take off down this this warehousing road and 1:23:34.600 --> 1:23:39.160 they're in front and me and Doug Blair, one of 1:23:39.240 --> 1:23:41.120 James is a good buddies just right behind him in 1:23:41.160 --> 1:23:44.920 his suburban. Anyway, Gary's going down through there and he 1:23:44.960 --> 1:23:47.280 gets gets a looking over his left shoulder, you know. 1:23:47.560 --> 1:23:50.639 Well it gets to getting over in the ditch like that. Well, 1:23:51.320 --> 1:23:53.559 instead of him leaning this way, you know, you gotta 1:23:53.600 --> 1:23:56.200 lean opposite on those to get him to turn, he 1:23:56.320 --> 1:23:59.760 gives her this right here. And when he did that, 1:24:00.000 --> 1:24:03.120 ain bit it is, it slammed into the bank of 1:24:03.120 --> 1:24:07.719 the road and it was just three wheeler Gary Andy, 1:24:07.920 --> 1:24:12.280 three whitler, Gary going right down the bar ditch and 1:24:12.280 --> 1:24:15.880 that three wheel was just all over them down through there. Well, 1:24:15.960 --> 1:24:18.760 when the dust satellite jump out and I rund And 1:24:18.760 --> 1:24:21.639 and Warehouse were lucky to cut the road dishes pretty 1:24:21.680 --> 1:24:23.599 deep there, and I grabbed in and said you okay. 1:24:23.920 --> 1:24:30.680 He said, yeah, where's Dad. I look back up the 1:24:30.760 --> 1:24:33.120 road and all you can see is with the knees 1:24:33.160 --> 1:24:38.559 back to his boots out of the pine thicket. Where 1:24:38.640 --> 1:24:57.880 else we wound up haul at him to the hospital. 1:24:57.920 --> 1:25:04.080 He broke five ribs. Smith the whole week laid up 1:25:04.080 --> 1:25:08.519 in the in the bed. But I mean, so anyway 1:25:08.520 --> 1:25:10.599 about Tuesday, I go in there to check on Gary. 1:25:10.680 --> 1:25:14.040 This is Saturday. And Gary says, ay, if you seen 1:25:14.080 --> 1:25:19.040 my shotgun? My shotgun? And I said, last time I 1:25:19.080 --> 1:25:21.240 seen it, Gary, I laid it up on laid it 1:25:21.280 --> 1:25:22.760 up on the bank of the road there where we 1:25:22.880 --> 1:25:25.640 had to wreck. He said, well, I ain't got it. 1:25:27.120 --> 1:25:28.920 I drive all the way back down there, you know, 1:25:29.040 --> 1:25:32.920 thirty five miles or forty and there that shotgun is 1:25:33.040 --> 1:25:36.000 laying right where I left it. And that's before all 1:25:36.040 --> 1:25:38.840 the gated roads. People would but that shotgun had never 1:25:38.880 --> 1:25:41.680 been moved in three days. Nobody had been through there. 1:25:42.080 --> 1:25:44.000 But he never put a scratch on the wady, but 1:25:44.080 --> 1:25:59.880 it's sure Besty's daddy yet. Oh wow, that's why I ran. 1:26:00.160 --> 1:26:02.640 I know you wanted Scott to tell a story for it, 1:26:02.680 --> 1:26:04.559 and he didn't get you one in. But I'm I'm 1:26:04.640 --> 1:26:07.080 done for him to tell one of his buckstories if 1:26:07.080 --> 1:26:11.040 you have time for it. Which one he knows which 1:26:11.040 --> 1:26:14.200 one it is. Let me tell you my favorite story 1:26:14.280 --> 1:26:18.920 though out of the last episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:26:18.960 --> 1:26:21.679 we're we're uh, we've been going an hour and a half, 1:26:21.760 --> 1:26:24.640 so we're we're gonna winder down a little bit, but 1:26:24.800 --> 1:26:27.000 I want My next question was gonna be you, what 1:26:27.040 --> 1:26:30.320 was your favorite one? So listen to all of them 1:26:30.439 --> 1:26:33.519 for different All of us has our favorite for different reasons. 1:26:35.560 --> 1:26:40.160 But I like most Shepherd's story the best. And the 1:26:40.240 --> 1:26:44.120 reason I do because I've never met Most Shepherd. But 1:26:44.160 --> 1:26:46.080 I feel like I know the guy just through you 1:26:46.240 --> 1:26:51.040 and through the magazine and and now through Bear Grease 1:26:51.120 --> 1:26:55.000 and all that. I feel like, you know, I've met 1:26:55.040 --> 1:26:57.720 the guy before it I never have. But I think 1:26:57.760 --> 1:27:00.360 it's interesting because mos accomplished deer hunter. I mean, the 1:27:00.360 --> 1:27:03.320 guy has killed some big bucks. He's I mean, he's 1:27:03.320 --> 1:27:05.760 a real deal in my opinion, just listening to the 1:27:05.800 --> 1:27:08.960 guy talk, you can tell you yeah, he's the real deal. 1:27:09.600 --> 1:27:14.639 And he could have picked any story to tell, any 1:27:14.720 --> 1:27:18.040 story to tell, but it's the one he didn't get 1:27:18.080 --> 1:27:22.879 that he told. And this guy has killed some state 1:27:23.200 --> 1:27:25.760 class I mean for the state of Arkansas as good 1:27:25.800 --> 1:27:28.920 as they get bucks. And he tells the story of 1:27:28.920 --> 1:27:31.040 a deer that he didn't get. And I sat there 1:27:31.560 --> 1:27:33.720 when I listened to his story, I thought, you know, 1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:38.400 isn't that true? When I sit and think about dear 1:27:38.479 --> 1:27:43.080 stories to tell, most of the time, it's the one 1:27:43.439 --> 1:27:47.000 that I almost got but didn't get. Something went wrong, 1:27:47.120 --> 1:27:51.120 something went south, you said earlier. I had the taxidermist 1:27:51.920 --> 1:27:54.280 on speed dial fixed to call him. And then it 1:27:54.360 --> 1:27:58.680 just falls apart underneath you. And then I thought, what 1:27:58.760 --> 1:28:02.240 was interesting about mo? He seen that dear a couple 1:28:02.240 --> 1:28:04.960 of times prior to the encounter he had where he 1:28:05.000 --> 1:28:07.880 could have killed him. But from that point on he 1:28:07.960 --> 1:28:10.760 never saw him again. It was like that was it. 1:28:10.760 --> 1:28:15.160 Its the end of story. You get one chance and 1:28:15.240 --> 1:28:17.639 you never hear see the deer ever again. And isn't 1:28:17.640 --> 1:28:20.479 that true? I mean, that's so I think about all 1:28:20.520 --> 1:28:23.000 the big bucks I never got. I never saw him 1:28:23.000 --> 1:28:25.080 at one time. That was it. It wasn't like I 1:28:25.120 --> 1:28:28.160 had more than one chance or anything. It was a 1:28:28.200 --> 1:28:32.040 one time deal. Didn't make it happen, And now you 1:28:32.080 --> 1:28:34.240 live with that for the rest of your life. I mean, 1:28:34.360 --> 1:28:38.080 that's there's a pain in that, but that's the stories 1:28:38.120 --> 1:28:41.120 worth telling most of the time. What what not to 1:28:41.160 --> 1:28:43.960 do or what went wrong? Or you learn a whole 1:28:43.960 --> 1:28:46.400 lot more from those hunts then you do the ones 1:28:46.439 --> 1:28:51.400 where you actually shoot something. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, hey, 1:28:51.439 --> 1:28:53.120 I've got a story. I don't want to put you 1:28:53.120 --> 1:28:55.679 on the spot. Andy, if you don't want to tell it, 1:28:56.439 --> 1:29:00.000 would you tell us what happened to your finger? Well? 1:29:00.200 --> 1:29:08.200 It was it was October of two thousand. No, that's 1:29:08.240 --> 1:29:15.120 not right. It was October of nineteen seven. I think, Um, 1:29:15.120 --> 1:29:17.920 a friend of mine, that's when we first. I just 1:29:18.000 --> 1:29:20.280 got into bo hunting Scott. In fact, Scott was both 1:29:20.320 --> 1:29:26.960 hunting before I was by Uh. But anyway, he had 1:29:27.000 --> 1:29:31.480 found some deer sign over on board Camp Creek and uh, 1:29:31.840 --> 1:29:33.720 I'm gonna have to beat it out again. Yeah, you 1:29:33.760 --> 1:29:38.439 can't give your spots over on the creek over over 1:29:38.680 --> 1:29:41.320 over east of town. There's a hundred board Camp creeks. 1:29:41.520 --> 1:29:47.519 But anyway, we had went over there one evening and 1:29:47.640 --> 1:29:51.720 uh uh, I got up a tree stand and that's 1:29:51.760 --> 1:29:54.160 back and I had a shot a high country sniper 1:29:54.200 --> 1:29:56.840 bowl at the time, shot about two ten and had 1:29:56.960 --> 1:29:59.200 lim aluminum mares that you had to have somebody caring 1:29:59.240 --> 1:30:00.599 for you if you had more and three or four 1:30:00.640 --> 1:30:02.840 you know, the little big airs. But anyway, I sat 1:30:02.960 --> 1:30:06.280 there and stand and and and back in those days, 1:30:07.360 --> 1:30:12.599 I was fighting me and God was fighting and this 1:30:12.680 --> 1:30:15.200 is this is kind of a neat story, but it's 1:30:15.280 --> 1:30:18.920 it is a it's a good story. Um. I said, Lord, 1:30:18.960 --> 1:30:21.519 if you just let me shoot a deer today, I 1:30:21.640 --> 1:30:24.639 promise you I'll be in church in the morning, okay. 1:30:26.160 --> 1:30:30.720 And so son's going down here a little well, yeah, 1:30:30.720 --> 1:30:32.320 I hear a little snip snap, and I look and 1:30:32.360 --> 1:30:36.360 here comes this year lynn coming to my stand and 1:30:36.439 --> 1:30:39.719 it comes in behind me. And of course I still 1:30:39.760 --> 1:30:41.519 do a lot of things wrong in the tree, Sam, 1:30:41.520 --> 1:30:43.920 but I he saw me in it. It run out 1:30:43.920 --> 1:30:45.600 the top of the regiment over there, a broadside, and 1:30:45.640 --> 1:30:47.040 I said, you know what, I'm not gonna let you 1:30:47.080 --> 1:30:49.080 get away from me about me slinging air at you. 1:30:51.920 --> 1:30:54.800 And uh, anyway, I cut drive shot under it and 1:30:54.880 --> 1:30:58.599 he'd run out the ridge, and I thought, well, that's it. 1:30:59.479 --> 1:31:01.000 In a minute, I looked over there and here comes 1:31:01.000 --> 1:31:05.320 that steer back. And so the deer comes back to 1:31:05.400 --> 1:31:09.600 my era, sniffs the era, and comes right into the 1:31:09.800 --> 1:31:15.439 tree stand and I shoot the deer. Okay, I mean, 1:31:16.280 --> 1:31:19.880 got a picture of it with my farm bureaupe with 1:31:20.000 --> 1:31:26.880 my ring on. Okay. So we get over to my 1:31:27.000 --> 1:31:28.960 friend's house. We skinned the deer. He said, you know, 1:31:29.000 --> 1:31:30.559 really I ought to go back up and hunt that 1:31:30.560 --> 1:31:32.320 buck in the morning. And he's got the wood store up, 1:31:35.320 --> 1:31:41.160 and so I did. I went with him. We get 1:31:41.160 --> 1:31:46.480 over there, the winds blown, we get up into the saddle. Um, 1:31:46.520 --> 1:31:49.160 there's deer in my stand. When we get there, deer's 1:31:49.200 --> 1:31:53.120 blowing out, going everywhere. And so at that time I 1:31:53.200 --> 1:31:55.879 was hunting a portable tree standing with the screwing steps 1:31:57.040 --> 1:32:00.559 and uh, anyway, I had a Fannie pack at the time, 1:32:00.600 --> 1:32:02.280 and so I crawled up in the tree and I'm 1:32:02.320 --> 1:32:05.040 sitting there and in the tree thinking I really don't 1:32:05.040 --> 1:32:06.920 need to be here. I need to be done. I 1:32:07.000 --> 1:32:10.320 need to be a church. Yet a deal had a 1:32:10.360 --> 1:32:15.960 deal and so uh the guy with Arkansas Democratic come 1:32:16.000 --> 1:32:20.240 out the week before with a story about tree stand accidents, 1:32:21.080 --> 1:32:24.080 and I was sitting there smoking all that over, and 1:32:24.120 --> 1:32:26.280 at the time I just I wore a belt. The 1:32:26.320 --> 1:32:28.920 boys have since got the hardest put over, but I 1:32:28.960 --> 1:32:31.120 just wore a belt around me. But anyway, I was 1:32:31.360 --> 1:32:34.479 sitting there, and about about nine o'clock, I thought, I 1:32:34.600 --> 1:32:37.160 want to get down and just go look and see 1:32:37.200 --> 1:32:41.200 if I can find some more sun. So I dropped 1:32:41.240 --> 1:32:43.679 my bow out of my stand, put all the stuff 1:32:43.680 --> 1:32:45.240 in my Fannie pack, and I've got it run in 1:32:45.320 --> 1:32:49.600 front of me. So I started down to stand, and 1:32:49.600 --> 1:32:51.479 when I get down to the bottom step, I was 1:32:51.680 --> 1:32:53.840 I set the stand kind of on the upside of 1:32:53.880 --> 1:32:57.040 the saddle, and I set my first step pretty high. 1:32:58.000 --> 1:33:02.360 M hm. So when I got down to the last step, 1:33:02.439 --> 1:33:05.479 when I put my left foot down to get the ground, 1:33:06.479 --> 1:33:11.599 I couldn't reach it. I was tiptoin well. I still 1:33:11.640 --> 1:33:15.479 had my my hand up on the third step. So 1:33:15.520 --> 1:33:18.360 I thought, we'll all this hop off. So how high 1:33:18.360 --> 1:33:23.920 are you off the ground? Foot maybe off the ground? 1:33:23.960 --> 1:33:26.000 And you got your left hand. I got my right 1:33:26.040 --> 1:33:29.000 hand on the on the screw and step and my 1:33:29.000 --> 1:33:32.439 my this this one here, and I just stepped off 1:33:32.560 --> 1:33:34.320 this one on my left foot trying to get to 1:33:34.360 --> 1:33:38.519 the ground. And so when I hopped off, it was 1:33:38.560 --> 1:33:41.120 just it's just like you hit me with a ballpen 1:33:41.240 --> 1:33:45.760 hammer in the funny bone. And I knew I had 1:33:45.800 --> 1:33:48.160 really messed up something that had happened. I just grabbed 1:33:48.200 --> 1:33:52.920 my hand and I run about thirty yards up the ridge, 1:33:54.360 --> 1:33:58.559 and I thought I had broke my finger. When I 1:33:58.600 --> 1:34:04.080 opened up my hand to my bone is still attached 1:34:04.120 --> 1:34:07.000 with the nail, and all my finger is bawled up 1:34:07.000 --> 1:34:09.679 in the bomb pomp of my head, all the all 1:34:09.720 --> 1:34:14.840 the meat and my ring. It's caught my ring. My 1:34:14.960 --> 1:34:18.960 ring is hanging from my tending And so I shut 1:34:19.000 --> 1:34:21.960 my hand back like that right quick, and I thought 1:34:23.240 --> 1:34:25.320 that it can't be right. And I opened and of 1:34:25.320 --> 1:34:28.920 course I don't know bone as bone white as is white. 1:34:29.560 --> 1:34:32.640 But it was so dramatic. It didn't even bleed. It 1:34:32.760 --> 1:34:35.200 wasn't even hardy bleeding. It just looked like you just 1:34:35.240 --> 1:34:37.080 took it, took my finger and just put it right 1:34:37.120 --> 1:34:40.200 back over the bone. So anyway, I went back to 1:34:40.200 --> 1:34:42.080 the tree and got my bow down and took a 1:34:42.120 --> 1:34:44.960 shirt off and wrapped my hand up and hard at 1:34:44.960 --> 1:34:46.519 wrain and he come down there and he said, what 1:34:46.520 --> 1:34:48.280 did you do kill another tear? And I said, no, 1:34:48.400 --> 1:34:51.439 I've hurt myself. And anyway, I showed it to him, 1:34:51.479 --> 1:34:53.479 and of course I had my face paint on, you know, 1:34:53.640 --> 1:34:59.439 and brought me into the yard room and um a 1:34:59.640 --> 1:35:03.120 j cold. My preacher at that time met me at 1:35:03.120 --> 1:35:06.920 the e er. Tina had called him and he, I mean, 1:35:06.920 --> 1:35:08.840 of course he had no sympathy for me. Whatso everybody 1:35:08.840 --> 1:35:12.160 shouldn't have. He said, look here, son, what where should 1:35:12.200 --> 1:35:16.040 we should have been this morning? You know? Yeah? Yeah, 1:35:16.120 --> 1:35:18.519 call me out. But anyway, doctor they sent the doctor 1:35:18.560 --> 1:35:20.800 in and he told me, he said, you know, there 1:35:20.920 --> 1:35:22.760 might be a chance they could put it back, but 1:35:22.800 --> 1:35:24.559 you'd always have a stiff finger. And I said, no, 1:35:24.640 --> 1:35:27.599 you just take that dude off, and so they did. 1:35:27.640 --> 1:35:29.400 And so that's where he's I walked around with three 1:35:29.439 --> 1:35:33.160 fingers and I said all this to say this, if 1:35:33.200 --> 1:35:35.599 you tell God you're gonna do something, you need better 1:35:35.680 --> 1:35:39.840 keep your word. Mhm. Lesson learned, because as soon as 1:35:39.840 --> 1:35:42.320 it happened, I had no idea. I mean I had 1:35:42.360 --> 1:35:45.800 there was no question in my mind. Why did he 1:35:45.960 --> 1:35:49.200 let just happen to me? So that's the story, and 1:35:50.080 --> 1:35:55.840 spitting tobacco and leaving your finger in the wood me 1:35:55.880 --> 1:35:57.760 because I thought they could slide that dude right back 1:35:57.800 --> 1:36:01.639 on there up there too. I came in see it. Yeah, 1:36:01.680 --> 1:36:03.360 I came in the emerging room there and they had 1:36:03.400 --> 1:36:04.960 him back there, and I went in and it's just 1:36:05.000 --> 1:36:09.720 like your skin of uh coons tail and he I 1:36:09.760 --> 1:36:11.880 went over and looked at it and this he thought 1:36:11.880 --> 1:36:13.280 they shou gonna be able to put it back on 1:36:13.360 --> 1:36:16.840 sword on and that doctor was there and so the 1:36:16.960 --> 1:36:21.200 bone was fine, the bones still had the fingernail attached 1:36:21.240 --> 1:36:24.680 to your skin. All the meat right off this in 1:36:24.760 --> 1:36:27.280 his hand and he said, noping. So I stewed it 1:36:27.320 --> 1:36:28.800 there with him when he took that off, had to 1:36:28.840 --> 1:36:30.439 eat or do you know what I sit there? He's 1:36:30.680 --> 1:36:33.759 got like a big old pair of dog tonail clippers. 1:36:36.560 --> 1:36:41.559 Well that uh you know. The silicone rings are a 1:36:41.560 --> 1:36:44.920 big deal these days, and Andy, I think about you 1:36:45.040 --> 1:36:47.000 all the time because I usually wear a wedding ring. 1:36:47.040 --> 1:36:49.040 I actually don't have it on tonight because I took 1:36:49.080 --> 1:36:52.519 it off last night and said it buy my computer 1:36:52.560 --> 1:36:55.599 and forgot to put it on this morning. But I'm 1:36:55.600 --> 1:36:58.000 gonna get a silicone ring. Well, to lose a finger, 1:36:58.080 --> 1:37:00.599 that's a good one to lose. But you know there's 1:37:00.600 --> 1:37:04.680 a purpose for that that. I say this jokelly, but 1:37:04.680 --> 1:37:07.120 there's a lot of truth to this. You don't take 1:37:07.240 --> 1:37:11.720 change in that hand if you do, and it's his 1:37:11.800 --> 1:37:15.840 ring finger on the right side. And there's not a 1:37:15.920 --> 1:37:18.519 morning that goes by in the world that I don't 1:37:18.600 --> 1:37:20.640 drop the soap that hand right there. I have to 1:37:20.680 --> 1:37:23.120 pick out up a time or everybody. So there is 1:37:23.160 --> 1:37:26.320 a purpose for that. And he'll tell you that for years, 1:37:26.360 --> 1:37:32.400 he'd say, my fingers eating, he's not there. It's just 1:37:32.439 --> 1:37:38.559 like you've got a stiff. Wow. That's wild. Well that's 1:37:38.560 --> 1:37:41.439 really interesting, and that's what a story man. Yeah. Yeah, 1:37:41.479 --> 1:37:44.400 I think there's a scripture that says better to not 1:37:44.520 --> 1:37:46.800 make a vow to God than to make one and 1:37:46.880 --> 1:37:51.280 not keep it. Yeah, well that's good man. I wasn't 1:37:51.280 --> 1:37:53.960 looking for a spiritual lesson. Boom, we got one that'll 1:37:53.960 --> 1:37:58.080 work for me. Hey, we've been going for Wow. Now, 1:37:58.920 --> 1:38:01.360 thank you guys so much for coming and being part 1:38:01.439 --> 1:38:03.160 of this. We didn't even get to talk to Hey, 1:38:03.160 --> 1:38:06.720 give that headset Toki for just second. Sorry, coy. I 1:38:06.720 --> 1:38:10.960 always have big plans. So this is ky house, um 1:38:11.080 --> 1:38:14.479 Steve's grandson. I went to school with Ki's dad and 1:38:14.760 --> 1:38:19.240 Koi's mom. Ki, you killed that big hog the other day. 1:38:19.280 --> 1:38:20.759 You don't have to tell me this whole story again. 1:38:20.800 --> 1:38:25.160 But yeah, that was this morning. I did. I did. 1:38:25.240 --> 1:38:27.840 It was this morning. Um, now what do you what 1:38:27.880 --> 1:38:30.880 are you doing these days? Um? Well, I was going 1:38:30.920 --> 1:38:35.960 to college. Um got hurt. It's a long playing snack 1:38:36.000 --> 1:38:38.960 injury over at Washtap Baptist. And so now I'm back 1:38:38.960 --> 1:38:42.920 here and I'm running my own uh forestry, mulchen land, 1:38:42.960 --> 1:38:45.760 clearing all that kind of stuff, doing all that and 1:38:45.840 --> 1:38:49.680 so enjoying that. And then um, Friday nights, I do 1:38:49.760 --> 1:38:53.280 the radio here. So for the football team. You announced 1:38:53.280 --> 1:38:56.479 for the football to Okay, so I enjoy that. Cool. 1:38:56.600 --> 1:38:59.960 Now how old are you? I'm nine team, nineteen years old? 1:39:00.400 --> 1:39:03.559 You in your your big hunter killed a bunch of 1:39:03.560 --> 1:39:07.400 turkeys and you're telling my dad about a big buck 1:39:07.520 --> 1:39:10.000 you let slip through your fingers this year. I did, 1:39:10.240 --> 1:39:12.200 And I will tell if you don't mind it to 1:39:12.200 --> 1:39:16.000 a little quick story. So in that same spot last year, 1:39:16.400 --> 1:39:19.040 first buck I killed with the bow, first buck. It 1:39:19.080 --> 1:39:21.240 would be it would be a year ago this coming weekend, 1:39:21.600 --> 1:39:25.160 coming from college, all the guys were down there at 1:39:25.200 --> 1:39:28.040 camp Harriett County. I didn't have time to run down there. 1:39:28.640 --> 1:39:30.400 I called Paula. I said, what do you think I 1:39:30.439 --> 1:39:31.800 should go in the morning, said, I don't even know 1:39:31.800 --> 1:39:34.760 where to go. He said, go up there and getting 1:39:34.800 --> 1:39:37.040 that gap. I'm not gonna name where some of the 1:39:37.080 --> 1:39:40.160 guys in here, no exactly where it's at. So he said, 1:39:40.160 --> 1:39:41.680 go up there and getting that gap. You've been up 1:39:41.680 --> 1:39:44.759 there before. You know there's deer sign. So I climbed. 1:39:44.800 --> 1:39:49.240 I got up there, and you know there's an old 1:39:49.240 --> 1:39:51.439 staining in the tree up there. Climb in it, get 1:39:51.479 --> 1:39:55.080 set in. It's breaking light, cold, good, perfect morning, have 1:39:55.200 --> 1:39:56.800 a just like a one or two mile an hour 1:39:56.920 --> 1:39:59.000 north wind. Well. I had seen some buck sign in 1:39:59.040 --> 1:40:02.720 the road walking in. So I got up there, dug in. 1:40:03.600 --> 1:40:05.479 I ain't seen a deer. It's like thirty nine o'clock. 1:40:05.560 --> 1:40:07.439 Ain't seen a deer. And I said, I you know, 1:40:07.479 --> 1:40:09.960 I started, well, this is pitiful. You know, you kind 1:40:09.960 --> 1:40:12.639 of get you kind of get upset at yourself. I said, 1:40:12.680 --> 1:40:16.280 I'm just gonna grunt and I gonna and I'm I'm tired. 1:40:16.320 --> 1:40:18.760 I'm one of those people. Paula. I'll probably tell you 1:40:18.760 --> 1:40:21.200 because he's hunted close to me, can hear me? I 1:40:21.280 --> 1:40:24.640 like to get vocals sometimes, and sometimes I I like 1:40:24.760 --> 1:40:26.720 to know it. Hey, if there's a big buck in 1:40:26.720 --> 1:40:30.080 the area, I want Yeah, he's gonna know I'm here. 1:40:30.439 --> 1:40:33.519 Sometimes just tell him sometimes. So I let out the 1:40:33.680 --> 1:40:38.600 biggest right is on a grunt. And I sitting there 1:40:38.600 --> 1:40:41.320 about two or three minutes, and I see this tree 1:40:41.439 --> 1:40:43.200 just going crazy. And I said, well, that's just a 1:40:43.240 --> 1:40:46.640 squirrel jumping back and forth. Well it keeps doing it, 1:40:46.800 --> 1:40:48.680 and so I get down and literally, I have my 1:40:48.680 --> 1:40:51.080 harness on. I stretched my harness, which you know probably 1:40:51.120 --> 1:40:52.960 wouldn't say all the way down. I grab a hold 1:40:52.960 --> 1:40:56.040 and I looked down and this is I mean good 1:40:56.080 --> 1:41:00.280 size bug hunting twenty five inch buck eight point and 1:41:00.320 --> 1:41:03.280 he's shaking this, I mean just treager. He just shake it. 1:41:03.840 --> 1:41:06.639 And I said, oh my gosh, you know about that time, 1:41:07.080 --> 1:41:11.080 I get really wound up, bad, bad, bad, bad like it. 1:41:11.080 --> 1:41:14.080 It's like your grandpa, Oh yeah, high perventilating like I 1:41:14.160 --> 1:41:18.040 just turkey hunting's bad too. So anyways, so I grunt 1:41:18.080 --> 1:41:20.160 at him again. About that time he turns and he 1:41:20.200 --> 1:41:23.760 comes straight to me and he's just but but, and 1:41:23.800 --> 1:41:26.000 I said, he's gutting back at Oh yeah, big time, 1:41:26.120 --> 1:41:28.640 big time. Well, he stopped and he starts making a 1:41:28.680 --> 1:41:32.240 scrape about fifty yards out there right behind, so I 1:41:32.240 --> 1:41:34.920 can't get a good shot. And I said, oh my gosh. 1:41:34.960 --> 1:41:36.800 You know, by the time I'm getting answer, it's it's 1:41:36.800 --> 1:41:39.360 going longer. I'm getting answer. Well, I grunt again and 1:41:39.360 --> 1:41:42.120 I snort weez at him all but he was mad. 1:41:43.400 --> 1:41:46.240 He was mad. I'm waiting for this to be a 1:41:46.240 --> 1:41:49.559 two inch deer. I know. Hey. Well, he tries to 1:41:49.600 --> 1:41:52.280 go around me and get wind of me, and I 1:41:52.840 --> 1:41:55.280 was grunting and he was. He was still going behind me. 1:41:55.320 --> 1:41:58.080 He was gonna win me. And I let out a 1:41:58.240 --> 1:42:01.240 big grunt and he turned and come right back down 1:42:01.240 --> 1:42:03.439 to the heill in front of me. And he went 1:42:03.479 --> 1:42:05.559 down there about forty five yards. I arranged you, and 1:42:05.560 --> 1:42:06.960 I thought he's gonna come up to me more so 1:42:06.960 --> 1:42:09.800 I get a good shot. Well, he stops and he 1:42:09.840 --> 1:42:12.840 starts making a scrape. I said, man, I think I 1:42:12.840 --> 1:42:15.200 guess I want to shoot this buck about that time. 1:42:15.800 --> 1:42:17.200 I don't know if any of the other guys in 1:42:17.320 --> 1:42:19.639 here have ever seen it or not. That buck snort 1:42:19.680 --> 1:42:22.639 wheezed is one of the coolest things I've ever seen. 1:42:23.520 --> 1:42:25.760 But it's like they hunch up and then they let 1:42:25.800 --> 1:42:31.759 out that well, he starts making a scrape. Long story short, 1:42:31.800 --> 1:42:34.840 I pull back forty five yards, I shoot him, and 1:42:34.880 --> 1:42:37.880 it actually hits his shoulder and goes up and hits 1:42:37.880 --> 1:42:40.160 a spine, and so he just drops right there like 1:42:40.240 --> 1:42:42.720 a tone of bricks and as the first buck I 1:42:42.840 --> 1:42:48.519 killed with the boss. So he gave you the whole 1:42:48.560 --> 1:42:54.120 gamut of vocalization. Brown. You brown boys are running second 1:42:54.200 --> 1:42:58.840 to this kid, right, But I am the first person 1:42:58.880 --> 1:43:01.280 that did get a phone call? Is this man right here? 1:43:01.960 --> 1:43:03.960 And I called him five times because he wouldn't answer. 1:43:04.439 --> 1:43:07.320 If you know anything, I like to call until I 1:43:07.360 --> 1:43:09.320 get an answer because I'm pumped up and tell you 1:43:09.360 --> 1:43:16.000 my story. Yeah, what a great story. That's good. I've 1:43:16.040 --> 1:43:20.479 got to tell this story. Clay. Okay, this is the 1:43:20.560 --> 1:43:24.640 longest beggary shred. You may not want to put this 1:43:24.720 --> 1:43:27.519 in for your own uh you don't want to shame 1:43:27.560 --> 1:43:32.280 yourself or whatever. But there's a story. Yeah, everybody needs 1:43:32.280 --> 1:43:36.839 about this, you know, just get just give the semi 1:43:36.840 --> 1:43:39.759 condensed version. All right, Well, you know everybody, Clay Clay 1:43:40.040 --> 1:43:42.439 start out shooting compound bows all this stuff, and he 1:43:42.600 --> 1:43:45.160 decided that wasn't challenging enough at some point in his life, 1:43:45.160 --> 1:43:46.840 and so he went shooting a piece of wood with 1:43:46.880 --> 1:43:50.080 a string tied to it, trid archeries all that, and 1:43:50.120 --> 1:43:54.360 that wasn't that's too technologically advanced. And so this year 1:43:54.400 --> 1:43:59.080 he started shooting homemade broadheads out of rock and other stuff. 1:43:59.120 --> 1:44:02.800 And so Clay going deep human on us. He's going backwards, 1:44:03.040 --> 1:44:04.960 you know what I mean, Like where everybody else is 1:44:05.000 --> 1:44:11.000 like acceptance of technology, Clay is fighting against technology for him, 1:44:11.080 --> 1:44:13.599 and he's going backwards. But what a lot of people 1:44:13.640 --> 1:44:16.719 don't know is Clay was doing that a long time ago, 1:44:17.320 --> 1:44:22.840 because before before fulsome points and spears and all that, 1:44:22.960 --> 1:44:24.559 you had to just catch it with your bare hands 1:44:24.600 --> 1:44:27.679 and eat it, right. I mean, that's that's the most 1:44:27.680 --> 1:44:29.720 primitive thing you can do, is just go catch it 1:44:29.760 --> 1:44:32.679 with your bare hands. Right. Well, I've seen him in action, 1:44:32.960 --> 1:44:39.240 or at least i've seen him attempted in action. And 1:44:39.320 --> 1:44:42.960 uh Now, seriously, though, Clay and I went to college 1:44:42.960 --> 1:44:45.600 together from northwest Arkansas, and the weather up there is 1:44:45.640 --> 1:44:47.040 a lot different than it is here. It's only a 1:44:47.080 --> 1:44:51.320 hundred and what probably thirty miles, but it's like you're 1:44:51.360 --> 1:44:53.760 in a whole another part of the country. Uh, the 1:44:53.840 --> 1:44:55.759 elevation is a bit higher, but we get lost. Snow 1:44:56.120 --> 1:45:03.120 went up there absolutely. So I was out of college. 1:45:03.439 --> 1:45:06.479 You were, you were married, You're probably still in college. 1:45:06.479 --> 1:45:09.320 I'm guessing you and Misty were I think your prey 1:45:09.400 --> 1:45:12.320 grove at the time. And Clay, we we get about 1:45:12.320 --> 1:45:15.840 a six inch snow north Starksa. Clay calls. He says, hey, man, 1:45:16.960 --> 1:45:20.120 let's go hunting. Let's let's go to this management area 1:45:20.160 --> 1:45:22.920 that's kind of outside of town here, and let's go 1:45:22.920 --> 1:45:24.599 get in the stand. You think we'd kill some deer 1:45:24.640 --> 1:45:27.599 up there, And I said, man, I think we can. 1:45:27.640 --> 1:45:28.880 I think we can hunt the edge of these This 1:45:29.040 --> 1:45:32.680 management area had these planted food plots, green as they'd be, 1:45:32.920 --> 1:45:34.720 you know, just gorgeous places. I thought that we go 1:45:34.800 --> 1:45:37.040 up there and hunt those food plots. One of us 1:45:37.040 --> 1:45:38.840 get shot at a deer. Clay's like, man, I got 1:45:38.880 --> 1:45:41.000 a buddy named Josh Barger wants to go with us. 1:45:41.439 --> 1:45:43.120 You don't care if he goes. I say, heck no, 1:45:43.280 --> 1:45:46.760 more of the merrier and better chances of shooting something. 1:45:47.000 --> 1:45:51.800 So Clay has this old jeep, the jeep chair held 1:45:51.840 --> 1:45:54.200 jeep cherit thin of thingfu only burnt to the ground 1:45:54.280 --> 1:45:57.000 or something. Don there caught fire or something. No, no, 1:45:57.200 --> 1:46:00.519 it wasn't that one. Not that it did catch on 1:46:00.560 --> 1:46:02.200 fire one time, but it didn't burn it the ground. 1:46:02.439 --> 1:46:05.040 I drove it the years after that, ye burn it 1:46:05.120 --> 1:46:08.880 half burnt to the ground. Anyway, we we load up 1:46:08.920 --> 1:46:12.360 and we go to this management area, and really it 1:46:12.400 --> 1:46:14.840 seems like I remember right when we're driving through that thing. 1:46:14.840 --> 1:46:16.880 We're putting the first tracks on the ground, and that thing, 1:46:16.880 --> 1:46:18.760 I don't think anybody had driven through it. I mean 1:46:19.000 --> 1:46:23.240 nobody had been out. It's January, probably late January, and 1:46:23.320 --> 1:46:26.519 it is cold. I remember it being like once it 1:46:26.640 --> 1:46:29.080 isn't the teens when we got up there, and so 1:46:29.240 --> 1:46:31.599 you and Josh had this idea they're gonna go hunt 1:46:31.640 --> 1:46:34.360 the edge of these food plots and closer were you 1:46:34.360 --> 1:46:37.000 gonna get. And I said, you know, I know this 1:46:37.160 --> 1:46:40.080 game trail that I hunt there in the fall that 1:46:40.320 --> 1:46:42.360 is headed to one of these food plots. I think 1:46:42.360 --> 1:46:44.439 I'll just hunt that. And when I tell you it's 1:46:44.479 --> 1:46:47.120 right on the side the road. It is literally fifty 1:46:47.200 --> 1:46:50.000 yards from the main road, but you can't see it. 1:46:50.080 --> 1:46:52.240 You can't see where the spot is it's real steep 1:46:52.240 --> 1:46:54.120 off the side the road there. It's on the way 1:46:54.120 --> 1:46:56.840 in there. Clay just dumps me out, and him and 1:46:56.920 --> 1:46:58.360 Josh they go on. And so I get up in 1:46:58.400 --> 1:47:01.000 a tree, and evening goes along long, and I'm not 1:47:01.040 --> 1:47:03.680 seeing anything well right at dark, I looked down this 1:47:03.720 --> 1:47:05.519 trail and here comes a whole bunch of does and 1:47:05.600 --> 1:47:08.720 year ones. And that's just what I'm looking for. I mean, 1:47:08.760 --> 1:47:11.400 I'm just looking for some meat, you know. So here 1:47:11.439 --> 1:47:14.000 comes I pick out this lead though. She comes down 1:47:14.000 --> 1:47:18.559 the trail just like I've just like I imagined it 1:47:18.600 --> 1:47:21.040 was gonna happen. I come to full draw. Dough walks 1:47:21.080 --> 1:47:25.679 out there, maybe twenty yards, probably not even twenty yards. 1:47:26.439 --> 1:47:29.280 I shoot, and when I shoot, I don't know what happens. 1:47:29.360 --> 1:47:31.519 I don't know. I couldn't tell you what happens. I 1:47:31.560 --> 1:47:34.599 know I had every bit of clothes I owned on. 1:47:34.960 --> 1:47:38.600 I know I was just overdressed because it's cold. I 1:47:38.600 --> 1:47:41.479 don't know if my strain, my sleever, what. But I 1:47:41.520 --> 1:47:45.719 shot this dear about four or five inches further back 1:47:45.760 --> 1:47:47.880 than what I wanted. I'd liver shot her, I thought 1:47:47.920 --> 1:47:49.840 I did. That's what the arrow looked like to me 1:47:49.920 --> 1:47:53.040 when I shot her. Well, she just wheels out of 1:47:53.080 --> 1:47:55.920 there and runs back down the trail the way she 1:47:56.000 --> 1:47:59.479 came in. Steve doesn't have his head sat and Steve, 1:48:00.520 --> 1:48:03.800 but you gotta stand up for your grandpa. You gotta say, see, 1:48:03.840 --> 1:48:08.280 I tell you that, yeah, shooting in the wrong spot. 1:48:08.400 --> 1:48:12.160 So anyway, what I what my eyes saw was that 1:48:12.200 --> 1:48:14.360 I shot the deer a little too far back, I thought. 1:48:15.880 --> 1:48:17.760 So I sat till dark and I get down and 1:48:17.760 --> 1:48:21.080 I walk out there. My arrow looks great, and there's 1:48:21.240 --> 1:48:23.320 lots of blood. Of course, it's snow on the ground, 1:48:23.360 --> 1:48:25.360 so you can just you know what I mean. You 1:48:25.360 --> 1:48:27.280 don't have to look for it. It's just it's just 1:48:27.320 --> 1:48:29.519 on the snow. You can sit it real good. So 1:48:29.560 --> 1:48:31.880 I walked back out to the road and I wait around, 1:48:32.000 --> 1:48:34.439 and it's a while before Josh and Clay come by. 1:48:36.520 --> 1:48:40.439 And when they pull up, they have seen, if memory 1:48:40.520 --> 1:48:45.439 serves me correct, together saw like fifty deer between the 1:48:45.479 --> 1:48:48.400 two of you. Well, and plus what I saw, I 1:48:48.439 --> 1:48:50.519 saw a thirty three deer from the stand that day. 1:48:50.640 --> 1:48:52.920 And then Josh saw like in the teens, I want 1:48:52.920 --> 1:48:56.200 to say, and I saw five. I think it's altogether 1:48:56.280 --> 1:48:58.360 it was over fifty deer we saw from the stand 1:48:58.400 --> 1:49:01.200 one evening and they're going on on about it, and 1:49:01.200 --> 1:49:03.320 I said, boys, i've only seen five, but I did 1:49:03.360 --> 1:49:06.360 shoot one. Man Josh didn't get one. Nope, they didn't 1:49:06.360 --> 1:49:08.040 shoot one. But they've seen a bunch. I said, oh, 1:49:08.080 --> 1:49:10.519 I've shot one, clays like you did. And I said, yeah, 1:49:11.080 --> 1:49:12.920 said I don't know that I hit her all that great. 1:49:12.960 --> 1:49:15.479 I'm not real sure. Here's my arrow. We looked at 1:49:15.479 --> 1:49:17.640 the arrow Clays like, man, arrow looks good. You know, 1:49:17.720 --> 1:49:20.880 we're all we're we're feeling like maybe it's better than 1:49:20.880 --> 1:49:24.160 I thought. So it's been a couple of hours probably 1:49:24.200 --> 1:49:26.760 since I shot her, and so we elect to go 1:49:26.880 --> 1:49:28.680 down and just kind of get on the blood and 1:49:28.680 --> 1:49:30.920 see what the blood looks like, how good the blood trailers. 1:49:30.920 --> 1:49:34.559 So we get down there in the snow and we 1:49:34.600 --> 1:49:36.479 walked down through there and we don't walk very far. 1:49:36.560 --> 1:49:39.799 I want to say, we walk about forty yards maybe fifty. 1:49:40.680 --> 1:49:44.000 And it's dark. It's real dark. We've all got I 1:49:44.000 --> 1:49:45.800 don't think we had headlines back then. We just had 1:49:45.800 --> 1:49:48.719 these old you know, the best flashlight you could buy 1:49:49.000 --> 1:49:50.559 that would fit in your pocket, you know what I mean. 1:49:50.600 --> 1:49:52.640 Like it wasn't real great flashlights. But we're going out 1:49:52.720 --> 1:49:55.720 there and we shine up the trail there where this 1:49:55.720 --> 1:49:57.720 blood trail is going, and there's a set of eyes 1:49:58.000 --> 1:50:04.120 sitting there looking at us in the dark. And Clay goes, 1:50:05.560 --> 1:50:10.559 there she is right there. She ain't dead, and I'm like, man, 1:50:11.160 --> 1:50:14.200 dang it, no, she's not. What do you want to do? 1:50:15.320 --> 1:50:17.920 We sit there for a minute. Clay goes, I'll tell 1:50:17.920 --> 1:50:22.479 you what we're gonna do. And I said, well, we're 1:50:22.479 --> 1:50:25.679 gonna do. He goes, We're just gonna take off and 1:50:25.800 --> 1:50:34.160 just jump on that bit. And I said really, and 1:50:34.240 --> 1:50:37.679 Clay He's like, yeah, man, let's just let's just bull 1:50:37.760 --> 1:50:44.639 rush her. She was right there, and I'm like, we're 1:50:44.640 --> 1:50:46.800 gonna let this stair get away. I'm like, man, I 1:50:46.840 --> 1:50:50.160 don't know about all that. I've never done this before, 1:50:50.520 --> 1:50:54.559 you know. And I said, Clay, man, wherever you think. 1:50:54.680 --> 1:50:57.640 He's like, man on the count of three, let's just 1:50:57.800 --> 1:51:03.080 go jump on her. And I said, all right, So 1:51:03.920 --> 1:51:07.479 we won to threat and we take off. Clay's in 1:51:07.560 --> 1:51:11.240 the lead, Josh right behind him, and me right behind Josh, 1:51:11.320 --> 1:51:14.439 and we're running through the snow in the middle of 1:51:14.520 --> 1:51:15.880 the night. I mean, it's not the middle of night. 1:51:15.920 --> 1:51:18.879 It's probably m We're running out there there, it's dark. 1:51:19.840 --> 1:51:24.000 We're crashing off down through there, and the deer just 1:51:24.000 --> 1:51:26.559 just runs off. I mean just you know, like the 1:51:26.600 --> 1:51:29.559 deer's like you idiots, you know, and just takes off 1:51:29.600 --> 1:51:32.400 and runs off the end of this ridge. And Clay 1:51:32.439 --> 1:51:37.320 and Josh right after, I mean, like like dogs on 1:51:37.400 --> 1:51:43.840 a rabbit. And I realized right quick that this was 1:51:43.880 --> 1:51:46.880 a bad plan, and so I just pulled up there 1:51:46.880 --> 1:51:50.400 and let them go. And I'm watching them guys run 1:51:50.520 --> 1:51:55.120 out of sight down this in the light. All you 1:51:55.160 --> 1:51:57.760 can see is is like lights bouncing off down through 1:51:57.800 --> 1:52:00.519 there in the light. We're about to catch it. And 1:52:00.600 --> 1:52:02.960 I sitting there looking at that, and I just looked 1:52:02.960 --> 1:52:13.400 toward in my left and there's my deer laying there. 1:52:14.200 --> 1:52:17.320 So anyway, I yelled, no, of course, they're in the 1:52:17.320 --> 1:52:19.680 they're in the heated race. Man. They don't even hear me. 1:52:20.560 --> 1:52:24.680 So they finally they realized they got enough stamming at 1:52:24.680 --> 1:52:30.760 the brother's dear dad and man, sorry, dude, they're down 1:52:30.800 --> 1:52:33.040 the butt of this ridge. I said, I said play 1:52:33.120 --> 1:52:39.559 and he's like yeah, and I said, man, the deer's 1:52:39.720 --> 1:52:46.640 right here. So anyway, they turned around you're not that 1:52:46.760 --> 1:52:48.680 she didn't go. Yeah, it was a great It was 1:52:48.720 --> 1:52:51.120 a great shot. The shot was better than what I 1:52:51.160 --> 1:52:53.599 thought it was. Anyway, she didn't go anywhere. I mean, 1:52:53.640 --> 1:52:55.920 she was dead within thirty seconds and me shooting her. 1:52:55.960 --> 1:53:02.120 I'm sure this happen. H play catching animals. You know 1:53:02.160 --> 1:53:05.000 he caught that turkey that time. He's chasing alive, dear, 1:53:05.120 --> 1:53:08.559 not even shot. Well, we're riding four wheelers and I 1:53:08.600 --> 1:53:12.080 got this high performance deal and plays plays driving it 1:53:12.280 --> 1:53:15.600 as fast as it'll go. And uh I topped the 1:53:15.680 --> 1:53:17.920 hill on a little slow four wheeler and looked down 1:53:17.920 --> 1:53:20.240 and the four wheelers looked like he'd been in a round. 1:53:20.360 --> 1:53:23.160 I was, I was. I was in front of Dad 1:53:23.439 --> 1:53:27.120 riding his real fast Yamaha three for the Banshee. Yeah. Yeah, 1:53:27.520 --> 1:53:32.519 all the slow four wheelers are in the back. Me 1:53:32.560 --> 1:53:35.120 and brother in law, we're running slow. I topped the 1:53:35.200 --> 1:53:38.040 hill and there's my clay baby down there with fenders 1:53:38.120 --> 1:53:41.040 laying in the road. Man, I'm thinking he's he could 1:53:41.120 --> 1:53:44.880 be dead, you know. So I'm rushed down here, jump off, 1:53:44.920 --> 1:53:48.360 I'll get the looking for and he's about twenty yards 1:53:48.360 --> 1:53:53.479 away in a creek with the dough And when this 1:53:53.720 --> 1:53:58.719 pocket knife, and boy, he's got that sucker. He finally 1:53:58.800 --> 1:54:02.200 cuts her throat and we water up, put her on 1:54:02.240 --> 1:54:03.880 the back of the fourth Winter and take her to 1:54:03.960 --> 1:54:07.719 a buddy Mine's house and drop it off. But we're shocking. 1:54:07.960 --> 1:54:11.760 There was a little more to this. No, I was 1:54:11.920 --> 1:54:15.920 I was riding. I really don't know how fast I 1:54:15.960 --> 1:54:19.200 was going. I was going fast, I mean I wanted 1:54:19.960 --> 1:54:22.320 I said fifty miles an hour. Maybe I wasn't going 1:54:22.400 --> 1:54:27.200 that fast fast. And I never saw the deer. I 1:54:27.320 --> 1:54:32.080 just felt something just slam into me in the four wheeler. 1:54:32.680 --> 1:54:35.400 And this is what's fortunate about it is that she 1:54:35.440 --> 1:54:37.680 didn't get caught up, like I didn't hit her in 1:54:37.720 --> 1:54:39.040 the front. If I had hit her in the front, 1:54:39.120 --> 1:54:43.880 she'd got underneath me done like Andy and Gary. But 1:54:44.040 --> 1:54:48.000 they but the fourther it felt like it just scooted 1:54:48.000 --> 1:54:51.320 over two ft. It just bam hit me, and it 1:54:51.480 --> 1:54:53.400 just and I just skid on the brakes and I 1:54:53.440 --> 1:54:56.080 turned around and there's this dough flopping around on the 1:54:56.160 --> 1:55:00.400 road and their fenders slam all over. And the only 1:55:00.400 --> 1:55:03.120 thing I knew to do was killer was to go 1:55:03.240 --> 1:55:06.760 after and so we did. Hey, what was what was 1:55:06.800 --> 1:55:11.560 really strange about that? Is probably a month before that, 1:55:11.920 --> 1:55:14.600 I was on the same benchie and I was running 1:55:14.600 --> 1:55:18.080 it as hard as you can run out of a trail, 1:55:18.240 --> 1:55:22.520 at least fifty five maybe more. And a deer jumps 1:55:22.560 --> 1:55:25.920 out right smack dab in front of my stinking four 1:55:25.960 --> 1:55:30.480 wheeler and it it looked like a cardboard box here 1:55:31.400 --> 1:55:34.440 and it comes out in my right tire hits it 1:55:34.600 --> 1:55:37.960 and it slings to me like this my tire, my 1:55:38.040 --> 1:55:41.720 wheel into the tire. I'm running down your knee into 1:55:41.720 --> 1:55:45.160 the tire like I'm not just about off. And you know, 1:55:45.240 --> 1:55:48.560 I'm I'm saying, okay, this is my first big wreck. 1:55:49.000 --> 1:55:55.120 I'm gonna lay down and roll, and all of a sudden, 1:55:55.200 --> 1:55:58.000 going sevent I'm just gonna lay down a roll in 1:55:58.040 --> 1:56:00.560 the ground, I said, Lord, if you get me up, 1:56:07.000 --> 1:56:12.040 all of a sudden, this thing just hops back and 1:56:12.120 --> 1:56:15.840 drops into a soft ditch, slows down. Everything's cool. The 1:56:15.840 --> 1:56:19.880 guy I'm riding with finally catches up, and you know, 1:56:19.920 --> 1:56:22.640 we came home two weeks later, which is which is 1:56:22.720 --> 1:56:33.200 wild that you didn't just ars hole in my gene. Anyway, 1:56:34.360 --> 1:56:37.080 they have it all right together. Yeah, all these you know, 1:56:37.240 --> 1:56:41.040 all these deers are riding. We get we get too 1:56:41.120 --> 1:56:45.760 deer there and yeah a month, well, we've had lots 1:56:45.800 --> 1:56:48.640 of surprise endings on this one. These were good editions. 1:56:49.480 --> 1:56:53.320 Thank you guys so much. I really appreciate it, enjoyed it, yea. 1:56:54.240 --> 1:56:57.400 And all the stories that you guys and other people told, 1:56:57.600 --> 1:57:00.760 we're really really great. And I meant what I said. 1:57:00.800 --> 1:57:03.760 I think these stories we take it for granted because 1:57:03.760 --> 1:57:05.680 it's what we do all the time. I mean, that's 1:57:05.680 --> 1:57:12.200 what all right are. These stories are are really deeply 1:57:12.320 --> 1:57:15.000 meaningful to us as humans. That's what I was trying 1:57:15.080 --> 1:57:18.440 to say in these things, even dear stories, even funny 1:57:18.520 --> 1:57:24.400 stories there there, they're significant. And uh, yeah, so I 1:57:24.480 --> 1:57:28.160 appreciate it, guys. Glad to thank for haavens. Yeah, man, 1:57:29.200 --> 1:57:31.480 keep the will places wild, Keep the wilds.