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Speaker 1: M My name is Clay and Nukeleman. This is a

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Speaker 1: production of the bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render,

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Speaker 1: where we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f

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Speaker 1: HF Gear, American made purpose built hunting and fishing gear

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Speaker 1: that's designed to be as rugged as the places we explore.

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Speaker 1: Well man, this is this is a monumental Beargreas render

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Speaker 1: for me right here. I got lots of people here

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Speaker 1: that uh, usually we have a group that's all the same,

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Speaker 1: but during hunting season I usually do something a little different.

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Speaker 1: This is this is one of those different ones, all right.

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Speaker 1: So the only regular is Gary Believer knucom. Does anybody

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Speaker 1: here know why he's his nickname is a believer? Absolutely

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Speaker 1: tell him? Tell him Scott. He believes in the black Panther. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Steve meat Eater made a hat that's like a best

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Speaker 1: selling hat, Like people wear this hat all over the

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Speaker 1: country and it says believer and it has a black

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Speaker 1: panther walking across the log with a moon behind it

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Speaker 1: and it and it says on the Mediator website inspired

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Speaker 1: by Gary knwcom. Yeah, so good to see you. Then,

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Speaker 1: so everybody else. Every one of you have been on

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Speaker 1: the Bargeras podcast before, but never on a render. I

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Speaker 1: don't think any of you ever been on a render.

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Speaker 1: So to my left, my good buddy, Scott Brown. I

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Speaker 1: talked about you all the time, Scott, do you hear

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Speaker 1: do you hear murmurs of it? Every once in a while, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I consciously remember Scott meeting Scott was outside the walmart

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Speaker 1: and we met up just like outside the walmart. It

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Speaker 1: was dark, and you said, Clay, I'm hunting the buck

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Speaker 1: that if I kill it, everybody's gonna know about it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't take much of a deer back then, and

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Speaker 1: like a hundred and fifty six inch buck on public

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Speaker 1: I was like, what this man says he does, but no,

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Speaker 1: Scott and I I Scott went to the University of

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Speaker 1: Arkansas in Fayetteville. I moved to Fayetteville when you were

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Speaker 1: worked together at Walmart and man, Andy, that's where I've

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Speaker 1: felt like I got to know you because me and

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Speaker 1: Scott talked NonStop about deer hunting, about black panther just

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Speaker 1: jumped in my lap, and um no, I learned a

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Speaker 1: ton about deer hunting from Scott Brown, no doubt. Good

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Speaker 1: in with a Bobcat picture, thinking it was a mountain lion. Think, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was perfect. That was two year left is my

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Speaker 1: long time like since like grade school? Buddy, Randy long

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Speaker 1: legged step good to be here. Yeah, man, So Randy's

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Speaker 1: where would you be in life? Man? You know I

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Speaker 1: can butterfly effect. Take that back to you. Clay. I

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Speaker 1: got my first job in high school because you quit

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Speaker 1: and I took your job. Specifically, I went in applied

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Speaker 1: So I went apply and said, hey, I heard Clay's quitting.

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Speaker 1: and that deer didn't fall in my chap. Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: I I didn't realize that you did that. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: I guess everybody in Arkansas does you. Guys just stuck

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Speaker 1: I was thinking. Randy and I, believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: see you, Randy. Randy's left skipping over dad, Steve, Eve Phillips, Steve.

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Speaker 1: As long as I remember being alive, I remember Steve

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Speaker 1: were on the second Bear Grease podcast mouth calling. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: give us your best mouth call, whether it's ol or crow?

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Speaker 1: and Steve's left is Andy Brown and Andy Man. I

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Speaker 1: Tell us about that hog. Well, you know, it has

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Speaker 1: a lot to do with my grandson. Here coy House,

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Speaker 1: you know where I live, up behind the Old Boy

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Speaker 1: Bowling Alley. I found some hog sign in there the

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Speaker 1: that a total Indian and Tony Hooper they were there.

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Speaker 1: for about a week. Is awful, man, There's been some

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Speaker 1: pretty good hog encounters. You shot one time five hogs

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, little pigs started coming out,

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Speaker 1: and you've probably heard it had in your sky. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: like it that I'm shooting his little pigs. He's hearing,

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Speaker 1: he's he squealing and running off, and he's off out

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Speaker 1: He's like, are you serious. I was like, oh my gosh,

425
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: you just can't believe how big this hog is. He's like, man,

426
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: that's awesome, he said, Man, I just had a lone

427
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: dough walk by me. And I said, well, man, I'll

428
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: get off here. I said, get ready, there'll be a

429
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: buck along if she's by herself, you know. So I

430
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: turn off my radio and I just took it back

431
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: my backpack and I just settled in. I just sat

432
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: up there. I'm you know, I'm gonna sit till eleven.

433
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: I was gonna go ahead and set the morning, you know.

434
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 1: So anyway, about thirty minutes go by, and the only

435
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: way I know how to explain it is to the

436
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: east of me, it sounded like wind coming over the ridge,

437
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 1: just this roar of noise, like leaves and wind like

438
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: it was just crazy, just a roar coming, And I thought,

439
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: what in the world is going on? And I got

440
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: the watching out there east in the woods became alive

441
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: with hall there was there was like a tidal wave. Yeah,

442
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: there was twenty hogs at least in a group, and

443
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: they're all just scouring the side of this ridge for

444
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: these acres, and they're all just in the feeding mode

445
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: and they're just making more noise than you can imagine.

446
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: So I got to look at those and I thought

447
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: shooting that first dog was pretty fun, being funner to

448
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,479
Speaker 1: shoot another one, you know. So I look out there

449
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: and I pick one out. There's a little light gray

450
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: hog and I've always described it. He was almost like

451
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: a reverse Havelna. Where I have Alena is black with

452
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: a white stripe. This one was like a really light

453
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: gray with a black stripe, almost the same way I

454
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: have Elena would be strike that. So it's pretty cool.

455
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, it's a cool looking pick. So

456
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna just zero. You had to just pick one.

457
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: There was so many of them. You just had to

458
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: be like, pick the one you want. And so this

459
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: hog just keeps coming and keeps coming and they're working

460
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: their way. They're just they're just coming to me. In

461
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: a few minutes, I'm gonna have twenty hogs all within

462
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: bow range. I mean just a few minutes. And so

463
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: I picked out this little gray hog and he just

464
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: keeps coming, and I would say he was I don't

465
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: think you would a wait, a hundred pounds, probably eighty

466
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: to a hundred pounds. And this little hog gets right

467
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: in behind me, and I'm just about to draw my bow,

468
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, these hogs just go to scattering,

469
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: like what you described when you jumped up and hollered

470
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: at those hogs and they scattered out. These hogs just

471
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: also just kind of starts scattering and running, and right

472
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: through the middle of them comes a hog that's a

473
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: quarter bigger than the one I've already shot, and and

474
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: and this, and the one you shot was the biggest

475
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: one in the world. The one I shot was the

476
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: biggest one in the county Scott, Are you glad you

477
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: didn't decide to get on the ground and grunt like

478
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: a hog and trying to scare him. I went on

479
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: my hands and knees trying to sneak up on him.

480
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: So I see this hog, he just comes charging in,

481
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: like just arging in, and these other hogs you can

482
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: tell like give him a wide berth, you know. And

483
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: when he comes to a stop trotting out there, he's

484
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: fifteen yards underneath my tree and he sticks his nose

485
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: in the leaves and goes to pick up acorns. Well

486
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: by then, man, I'm at full draw again, and I'm

487
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: so high in this tree. I man, fifteen yards. It

488
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: was almost felt almost like I was shooting straight down

489
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: at him, you know. And when I touched the release,

490
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: my arrow just twelve rings this thing and the top

491
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: of the shoulder on its right side, and it buries

492
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: up almost to the fletching. I mean, just just stuck

493
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: him perfect. When I shot him, he takes about two

494
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: jumps kind of uphill and then just whips around and

495
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: he is double mad, and he just he's just he's

496
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: just kind of spinning circles, looking looking looking looking. He's

497
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: just like he's he's looking for whatever. Whatever, Just bid

498
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: him whatever, just at him. And I'm sitting there looking

499
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: I shot. I used to shoot white, three white fletchings

500
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: on my arrows because you could see him in flights

501
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: much better. I'm looking at these three white fletchings against

502
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: this black hog body that is in a twelve ring

503
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: spot on this hog, and he acts like he's not

504
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: even shot. Hm. And I remember thinking, well, I can't

505
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: shoot one better than that. Yeah, I mean, but I'm

506
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: digging for another arrow, you know. I'm reaching around there

507
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to grab another arrow out of my quiver,

508
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: and I get one, and he's still just kind of

509
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: standing there and he left. I just about I got

510
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: an arrow knocked, and I'm I'm in the process of

511
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: trying to get my release on the string, and he

512
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: finally besides, he better get get gone. So he takes off,

513
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: just charging up this ridge, just running straight up hills.

514
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: You can. I'm talking to steep Ridge, just trotting up

515
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: this ridge like there's nothing wrong with him whatsoever. And

516
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm watching this hog just run off out of my

517
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: life forever. It looks like you know what I mean,

518
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: Like I was like, I can't believe it. And he's

519
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: just a dead stride about twenty yards from him. He's

520
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: just a dead trot And all of a sudden, it

521
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: was just like you pulled the power cord on him

522
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: and he was dead instantly, he just comes to a

523
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: sliding halt up there and never wiggled again. It was

524
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: all she wrote. So of course, you know, I'm about

525
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 1: ready to jump out the tree. I'm so excited, you know.

526
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: So I grabbed my radio. I'm digging it out, you know,

527
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm excited. And about that time Tim comes on the

528
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: radio was like, how about it, Scott? I was like,

529
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: and I started, Tim, You're not gonna believe what just happened, son.

530
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: I just shot. I shot an absolute tank of a hog,

531
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 1: bigger than the first one I shot. And I go

532
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: on and I go on for two or three minutes

533
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: on the radio without taking a breath hardly, you know.

534
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: So anyway, I finally get done telling my whole story

535
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: on the radio and I take my thumb off the

536
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: button and Tim goes, man, that's awesome. I just shot

537
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: a big buck. And I'm like, and I thought I

538
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: heard what I heard, you know, And I was like,

539
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: come back, did you just say you shot a big buck?

540
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: He's like ten four. I just shot a big buck

541
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: over here. And of course I'm like, man, this is

542
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: the most awesome day. We can't believe it, you know,

543
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: So lock to cut the story down, Tim just he's

544
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: not sure. He's pretty sure he made a good hit.

545
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: But you know how you are when you don't see

546
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: the arrow hit the deer, and you all got this

547
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: doubt in your mind. And the longer you said, the

548
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 1: more you doubt it, and all this other stuff. So

549
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: Tim come and got me later, and I said, Man,

550
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: if you're worried about your hit, let's got plenty of

551
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: work to do. Let's get these hogs out and uh

552
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 1: we'll go and get yours. Uh we'll get It'll give

553
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: it some time, you know. So anyway, long story short,

554
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: he had hit that dear perfect. He ran maybe seventy

555
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: five yards. He just didn't see him go down. You know.

556
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: Those hogs and that buck filled up back of a truck. Yeah, hey,

557
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 1: we we had in that bucks. It was a dandy,

558
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: I mean, like right at pope and young class eight

559
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: point nice, just a really nice buck at the time.

560
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: I want to say that was for sure, probably the

561
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: biggest buck at the time Tim had ever killed with

562
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: a bow. I mean, it was a it was a

563
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: good deer. It was a good day hunt, but it

564
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: was an awesome day hunt. Started out as a deer hunt,

565
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: turned into a hog hunt. But ended as a deer hunt. Randy,

566
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: this would be a good time to clear up the

567
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: roar in your story that we never got to. So

568
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: Randy told the story on the first White Tail Stories

569
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: podcast about buck following a mine shaft and you you

570
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: talked about a roar, which now we're talking about hall roars,

571
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: fair roars, but it was the buck. It was a

572
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: buck roar, and I had never really heard one before.

573
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: I had heard him grunt, and I've heard all kinds

574
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: of stuff, dear, blow at you. But when he made

575
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: that noise, it made the hair on my next stand up,

576
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: I was It woke me up. I was like, oh

577
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: my gosh, what was that. But at the time I

578
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: still didn't know it was a buck because I didn't

579
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: think they can make that noise. Um. But you know,

580
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: once all that transpires, like it had to be that buck,

581
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: and talking with Scott about it, you know, he explained

582
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: buck roar and all that kind of stuff, and I've

583
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: heard him like on YouTube videos and stuff like that's

584
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: exactly what it is. And I think on that podcast

585
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: or maybe the next one that he was brought up

586
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: on one of the stories a buck roar and they

587
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: played it and I was like, oh, yeah, that's exactly

588
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: what it was. Uh. Did you like how Phil the

589
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: meat eater sound guy put an actual like lion roar.

590
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: I didn't have time to tell Phil, hey, you didn't

591
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: have to do that, but uh, because because the way

592
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: I think he heard the story was that like. So

593
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: it was like, well, to trim the story down. What

594
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: I left out was you know, I mentioned how out

595
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: of shape I was, but I contemplated just sitting on

596
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: the ground. I was so tired. But when I sit

597
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: down above that trail, I look right beside me and

598
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: there was a big old pile of bear scat, and

599
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, I'm not sitting So you had reason

600
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: to think there was because there was bear sign. And

601
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: when I climbed up in the tree, as it started

602
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: getting daylight, down below me, I could see something really

603
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: dark and I first was like, that's not a bearret

604
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: to move by now, And then I was like, is

605
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: it a whole the bears? You know? And come to

606
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: find out, it was the opening of that my shaft.

607
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: I just didn't know what it was. So, you know,

608
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: as as it's getting daylight, I'm looking down there and

609
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what that is? So how

610
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: far was the mind shaft from? Probably about thirty yards?

611
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't that far. It wasn't that far. But the

612
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: way it's cut, I mean, it was so steep you

613
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: could tell something was there, but you couldn't tell what

614
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah. Um, Scott sent me a picture today

615
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: of the buck in the mind shaft. I'm gonna put

616
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: that on my Instagram at some point. Yeah. I posted

617
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: the actual buck on my Instagram after the thing came out,

618
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: just so anybody looked at it and see how because

619
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: he was a good sized buck. I mean, it's the

620
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: biggest buck I've ever killed. Uh. And then add some

621
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: water on him. We can count that water weight right

622
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: lifting him up out of the hole. He was heavy. Yeah. Now, Andy,

623
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: were you with your grandson when he killed the big

624
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: I mean I know you weren't sitting with him. But

625
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: the big deer there was a big deer killed two

626
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: days ago Scott's sons. Yeah, Yeah, that was That was

627
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: a heck of a deer, big deer. Yeah, how big

628
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: was it? Scott? This is your son? Was it Blake? Yep?

629
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: Sun Blake. Huh, it's his biggest buck ever he's ever killed.

630
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna the deer is gonna be right out a

631
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight point. Yeah, so public land land, dear, yeah,

632
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: good dear, and all you're looking for on public land

633
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: over there where we were running for sure. Yeah. He

634
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: calls me up Friday night and he says, Paul, you're

635
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: hunting the Morrow. And I said yeah. He said, you

636
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: here if I go with you? And I said I no,

637
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't care if you go. He said, where are

638
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: we going? I said, I don't know. We're gonna go

639
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: down south. I said, we'll dump you out down or somewhere,

640
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: you know. Anyway we go down and of course what

641
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: he what? He shows up, and I gotta say this.

642
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: Of course I'm a stickler about this. I said, be

643
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: at my house at four thirty. And he was at

644
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: my house at four thirty. So that was a plus.

645
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: And and then he gets out, get start. It's good starting.

646
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: But then things kind of went downhill a little bit.

647
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: He he uh. He said, well, you're all gonna hunt

648
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: all day and I said, well, I don't know. He said, well,

649
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, if you're gonna hut all day, I'm gonna

650
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: take my own rig because I need to come in

651
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: and I said, so there's already stipulations on his up,

652
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: so we give him. You can imagine this what we

653
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: did to him going down that morning, and we we

654
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: kind of wrote him pretty hard and anyway, went down

655
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: and it put him in the tree, and and uh,

656
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: Kevin Spurgeon, he was something with us. And so I

657
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: don't we dun't took Blake down to the tree and

658
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: put him up to our diet and put him up

659
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: my tree. But showed him the tree and I went.

660
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: Dump Kevin off and I went and we were gonna

661
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: hunt till eleven o'clock. And uh, we'll explain why you

662
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: chose that spot. Well, the reason when we chose that

663
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: spot was Cole had about I spent a month ago,

664
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: probably the first first weekend of both season, eighth of October,

665
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: was it. Anyway, he had hunted that sand and and

666
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: he had three bucks coming on him that morning, including

667
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: this deer. Uh, and it just wore him out at

668
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,959
Speaker 1: twelve yards. And you know when the when the buck

669
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: come in, Cole says, there's no way this deer can

670
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: get away from me. I'm i gonna kill him. You know.

671
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: He said there was a time or two that he

672
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: could have shot him through a little bit of stuff,

673
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: and he said, why why would I want to do that.

674
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna give me a broadside shot at twelve yards.

675
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: And he said about that time that deer kind of

676
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: turned and one of them bucks he run it. One

677
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: of those bucks and a buck run off, and he

678
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: chased him up the ridge and walked out of his life.

679
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: Never even got a shot at him. And so Cole

680
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: kept telling us, somebody needs gonna hunt this deer. Said,

681
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: he's a bruiser. He's a big buck, he said, he said,

682
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 1: in fact, he said, probably the biggest buck I would

683
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 1: have ever killed, if I would have killed him. And

684
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: so anyway, so Kevin and I before Blackie call, we

685
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: were gonna go hunt. And I was gonna hunt that stand,

686
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: and Kevin was gonna go y. And so I told Blake,

687
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: he really owes me a bunch now that I put

688
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: him in my stand. But anyway, there was no grounds

689
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: rinkage on that one. And I called cold and I said, well,

690
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: you didn't have the big guy on him, because I

691
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: mean he was a big buck. Something. Men's time is

692
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: eleven and a quarter g two beams. I mean, that's

693
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 1: that's good main beams so many here, you know, big

694
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: buck dere but he so when I went to pick

695
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: Kevin up, Uh, Kevin's nonchalant. Of course, I didn't have

696
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: any service where I was at. Everybody Scott and Blake

697
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: and Kevin had been talking and anyway, I went to

698
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: the one of my stuff in the back of the

699
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: truck and Kevin says, when we need to make some room.

700
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 1: And I said, what are you talking about? I said,

701
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: did Black kill that big buck? He said, he sure did.

702
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: And so we take off and go over there at noon.

703
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: But then when I come over the hill, old Blake's

704
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: up give me the fifth book. You know, he calls

705
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: his dad and Scott says, he couldn't even get it out, Dad, Dad,

706
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: I just killed the biggest buck of my life. You know.

707
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: He was some kind of tour But you know what,

708
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: that's what it's all about. That's that's and we talked

709
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: about this all the time, and it's not about you. Really,

710
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: I get as much and Scott had. We had this

711
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: conversation this week, and it's like Gary talked talking about

712
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: taking you down where the deer were. That's the way

713
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: we operate, you know, It's not about me going to

714
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 1: the best spot. It's about I think anybody's separate hunting

715
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: with me would say I'm gonna give you the best spot. Mh.

716
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not greedy when it comes to that.

717
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: I can vouch for that because um, by no means

718
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: the greatest hunter. I hunted with you in high school, Clay,

719
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: when I think neither one of us were killing deer. Um,

720
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: you moved up with them and start killing deer and

721
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: then they Scott moves back to Mina. That's when I

722
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: hook up with them and I start killing deer. But

723
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: I've been to camp with these guys and it is

724
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: an art form. You guys have it mapped out. Y'all

725
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: have probably twenty stands based on the wind, and you

726
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: sit around the camp the night before and figure out

727
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: who's going where, and it's a it's a whole strategy,

728
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: and I mean it's very productive. So well, I'd rather

729
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: see you know, I mean, I get it's much thrilled

730
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: out of somebody else getting a thrill. I'm not. I'm

731
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: not a loner when it comes to deer hunting, our

732
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: turkey hunting. I like companionship. I like people to gig

733
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: and I hope we get into some of the gigging

734
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: on some of steps. There's some highlights with him, But

735
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: I tell you it's all about companionship and and uh,

736
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: you know, Scott Steve grew up with my kids and

737
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: treated him like his own. And he's he's walked thousands

738
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: of miles behind me over the years. I mean, great friendship.

739
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: Even before that we played little legue baseball together. That's

740
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: how far we go back. That's a lot, that's a

741
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: lot of years. And uh, but I think hunting is

742
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: about making somebody happy. You know, it's not and it's

743
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: not about being especially anymore. I mean it's I like,

744
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: kill buck deer as by anybody, but Blake, when that

745
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: boy killed that there, that's what it's really all about.

746
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: It's kind of like when when Ronella lets you shoot

747
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: the moose. You know, that's that's shows you kind of

748
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: up made me think a whole lot of him when

749
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: I and I think Gary May pointed that out and

750
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: in one of the podcasts about that shows you what

751
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: kind of guy he is when he lets you shoot

752
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,479
Speaker 1: the moose that he's always wanted to shoot. So but

753
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: so we give we give Blake a hard time. We

754
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: told him that. You know, by looking at it, I

755
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: thought he ought to give it at least another year.

756
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: He shouldn't have shot it. Yeah, you know, it's probably

757
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: been a whole lot bigger little thing, you know, but

758
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: it was truly. When you kill a buck like that,

759
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: it's a whole different They're a whole different category than

760
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: a two and a half or three and a half

761
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: year old deer. They're just they're just big. I was

762
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: excited to see it, Scott message me the other day. Yeah,

763
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: I sent it. In fact, Dad and Kevin had not

764
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: even come out to Bloke yet when I sent you

765
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: the picture. Yeah, yeah, I was working. I wasn't even

766
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: hunting Blake. Of course, Blake calls me. I picked up

767
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: the phone. I see it's him. When he calls me

768
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: from the woods, I know something's happened, you know. So

769
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: I picked up the phone and I can't even understand

770
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: what he's saying. He says something like, you know, just now,

771
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: I just shot. I can't even understand him, and I

772
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: was like, are you sure you made a good hit? Like,

773
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: let's slow down for a second. Are sure he made

774
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: a good hit. He's like, oh, I've already seen him

775
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: he's already he's on the ground, you know, I mean,

776
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: he'd already found him and everything. Yeah, And anyway, I said,

777
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: well you got a picture. No, I was like, Blake,

778
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: take a picture of him, you know, like, give me,

779
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: give me something to go off of. I'm living my

780
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: life through you today. So he, uh, he takes a

781
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: picture of it. Since it I think the first picture

782
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: I sent to you is just a deer laying on

783
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: the ground. Yeah, and you can tell it was big,

784
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: but you couldn't really tell that much. You were one

785
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: of the first three people. I think I sent the

786
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: picture too. Yeah. Oh, Blake Brown just gets down and reloading,

787
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: gives you another down. You get up, Hey, he just

788
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: give him another to the shoulder. Lay it there. That

789
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: was funny, Steve. You've been hunting with Andy, you twenty

790
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: plus years. Yeah, yeah, I mean, in fact, how old

791
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: were you were you about Blake stage when you killed

792
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: that big buck down off on the back side of

793
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: the mountain and I came to you and you said,

794
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: how we're gonna get that buck out of here, and

795
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: nice shoulder packed him just like you were talking about that. Yeah,

796
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how old I was, because Cole killed

797
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: went on the same morning. If you'll remember, he was

798
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: about twenty one or twenty two, I want to and

799
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: if Cole was ten, i'd have been twenty when that happened.

800
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: And we were down to bottom and I went off

801
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: down off the middle mountain down to him, down to

802
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: the bottom Scott to kill the big old buck. And

803
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: he should, man, how we're gonna get this bug out

804
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: of here? And I said, I'll show you. We're gonna

805
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: get out here. And I just threaded him down and

806
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: tied it together and I just bent down and he

807
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: helped me, and I got him on my back and

808
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: I said, there you carry a gun. I'm talking. It's

809
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: straight up. And I said him to take my time

810
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 1: and he'll day. I went right up that mountain, grabbing

811
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: tree to tree and carried his buck out of the

812
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: mountain for nice. You know what, I was thinking the

813
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: whole time as the best plan we come up with.

814
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: We stayed in the night before up there what we

815
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: call the Parker Place, and we were all is blue

816
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: coal that I mean, it was cold, but he's all

817
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: laying there and they're sleeping bags, and all of a

818
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: sudden we heard out there the you know what, you know,

819
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: get a little closer, and I'm not kidding you. There

820
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: was an armadilla. Well you know it was thought it

821
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: was a black panther. It cub between the tents, didn't.

822
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: I mean, we've just been there, remember, you know, armandals

823
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: can't see very well. Yeah, and he got running by

824
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: and he just square centers and ice chest and Steve goes.

825
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: He goes at Arbydale's wondered that here launy one of

826
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: the greatest stories though about Stevens. One night we've we've

827
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: been hunting that on the lake and and it was

828
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: me and Scott and Tim and we didn't get out

829
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: the way after dark and you got to load the

830
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: boat and get everything go on. And we're coming up

831
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 1: the highway and all of a sudden we get service.

832
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: And Stevens called Scott ten times. She's called me half

833
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: a dozen times. There's voicemail after voicemail, there's mis calls,

834
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: there's text messages. Somebody's dying smail. I mean, what can

835
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: I say? But anyway, Steve shot a buck and and uh,

836
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: he's uh, he's needs to help finding he's a man.

837
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: There's a there's a ton of blood. So here we are.

838
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: It's it's nine thirty, nine thirty, ten o'clock till after dark. Yeah,

839
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 1: I mean it's anyway, Scott tell the story that I'll

840
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: get in there here to minute. Well, when I when

841
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: I listened to the voicemail, Steve, he says, Scott, Hey,

842
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: he said, I'm over here, Aaron stand. It's a stand

843
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: location we have over here. To Aaron stand, he said,

844
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: I've just shot a big buck over here. He said,

845
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: I mean I'm big. And he said, he said, I've

846
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: got good blood, but I've lost it. I've lost the blood.

847
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: Can y'all bring the dog over here? And it just

848
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: so happened that year we had a dog in camp

849
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: that could trail blood trail And so I hang up

850
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: the phone. I let you know I'm done with a voicemail.

851
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: I look over her dad and said, well, boys are

852
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: not just begun. It's long as rose deal. Let me

853
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: let me just put this. It's one of those Andy

854
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: Brown says we're going on a wildcat van in him

855
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: and I. In the hunting years we've hunted together, we

856
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: have been on a mini wild cat. Man, I'm going wildcat.

857
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: That's what wait that we called a wildcat. And he said, well, boys,

858
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: were going wild if that means we may be out

859
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: all night. Night. So we get to camp, we load

860
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: the dog, drive up there there and stand Steve. He's

861
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: he's pasting the hole in the ground, he says, boys,

862
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: he said, I've got He said, I've got great blood.

863
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: I mean great blood, and uh, he said, but it

864
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: just goes off down a little kind of a little holler,

865
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: and you come up with the hollar, it just quits.

866
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: And of course we're thinking, well, maybe maybe he just

867
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: made a turn or you know how they can do it. Yeah,

868
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: I said, well you hit him good. Steve says, man,

869
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: I had it right behind the shoulder when I shot.

870
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: And I said, well, well, heck, if he's bleeding that

871
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: good chopped on the shoulder. He't far, you know. So

872
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: we walked down there and Steve takes us out to

873
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: where this deer standing when he shot him, and he's not.

874
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: He has not over exaggerated the blood trail. It is

875
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: a fantastic blood trail, one of those you can see, Steve,

876
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: he just poured out. I mean you can see it

877
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: in the flashlight way up in front of you, you know,

878
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: I mean, just a great blood trail. And I remember

879
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: looking I'd look at Steve. I said, Steve, this dere

880
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: ain't going nowhere blaeding like this. And Steve says, well, Scott,

881
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, he goes up here and he quits.

882
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: Of course, we got this dog with us. Of course

883
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: it's on the blood. We don't need the dog yet

884
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: because you can see the blood plenty well enough. But

885
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: this dog is trying to pull his collar off. He's

886
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: wanting to get going, you know. And Tim has him

887
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: on on a leash and we go down there and

888
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 1: just like Steve said, across the little holler just quits.

889
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: No more blood, and we all just kind of assumed

890
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: he turned down hill. You know, deer shot good generally

891
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: doesn't gonna go down here. There's exceptions every rule, because

892
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: I've seen him go up hill, we all probably have.

893
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: But this we just felt like this deer probably turned downhill,

894
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: so the dog was feeling the same way the dog

895
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: turned downhill. We just assumed that the dog was right,

896
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: and off down the mountain we go. And you know,

897
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: even th though the dog you feel like it's on

898
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: the deer, you're still wanting a spot of blood for affirmation,

899
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, And we're all kind of trying to just

900
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: find a spot of blood. We don't find anything. We

901
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: finally get down in the bottom this ridge goes down.

902
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: It hits kind of a cane bottom, and we got

903
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: down in that bottom. The dog kind of turned east

904
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: up the bottom there, and when he did, I just

905
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: looked down on the ground and there was a spot

906
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: of blood and I said, all right, we're for sure

907
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: on him. I mean, there's blood right here. And by

908
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: the time I said that, the dog just turns and

909
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: goes right back up the ridge. We just came off,

910
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: just a little bit further east from where we came off.

911
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: He goes right back up. And I remember us all

912
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: looking at each other going this that, and good, like

913
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: he doesn't need to turn up hill, you know what

914
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: I mean. We just felt like if the deer was

915
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: hurt bad, he wouldn't have turned the hill. That steep

916
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: of a hill. The dog just keeps going up the hill,

917
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: keeps going up the hill, and Tim, you know, he's

918
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: got flashlights and a minute he's out of side up there,

919
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: and we're kind of standing down there at the bottom

920
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: where this bucket turned up, or we thought he turned up,

921
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: and we're sitting there talking and I just walked out

922
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: there about ten or fifteen yards from I tell you

923
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: what I was doing. We will We got off down

924
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: there is just buck scrape under every bush now, and

925
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: I thought, boys, we found the hotspot right here, you know.

926
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: And so I'm walking around down they're just kind of

927
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: looking survey and the buck sign. And about that time

928
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: I find some blood uh north, not up going up

929
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: the ridge, but actually away from the ridge North. I said, guys,

930
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: there's blood right here. I don't think that dog's on

931
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: the right deer. And anyway, I think the dog realized

932
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: that too. He got up there little ways and just

933
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: kind of was done with it and what it was.

934
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: He got on a perfectly healthy deer in the process

935
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: of all. So Tim comes back down the ridge with

936
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: this dog and we walk out there and get him

937
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: on this blood that I've found, and it's back on again,

938
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: the dogs on him again. And here we go across

939
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: this cane bottom, or it's only about fifty or sixty

940
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: yards out there until it hits creek, a big creek,

941
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: like a swimming hole kind of creek, you know what

942
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: I mean. Creek, And uh, we go out there and

943
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: and this cane bottom just goes out there, and when

944
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: it hits the creek bank, it's on it's on the

945
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: channel side of this creek, meaning it's just a bluff

946
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: off to the water, probably a three and a half

947
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: foot four ft drop off into a big hole of

948
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: water that runs back west a hundred yards back west.

949
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: And uh, we said, well, across the creek right here,

950
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: and so you can't cross right there, it's way it's

951
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: over your head. Be So we thought, well, we'll go

952
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: down creek, We'll crossing the shoal. We do that. We

953
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: come back up straight across from where some of us stayed,

954
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: where last blood was, so we knew where to try

955
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: to pick up the blood on the opposite side of

956
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: the creek. We get down there, no blood trip, none whatsoever.

957
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: We we scour the bank, We exhaust all efforts trying.

958
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: The dogs not interested. You can just tell something happened,

959
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: well common sense of to you, Well, maybe the deers

960
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: in the creek. So we start looking. We're shining creek.

961
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: We're walking up down the creek bank and anyway, Steve

962
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: gets away from me. He gets down there down creek,

963
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: probably down creek, downstream, about seventy five yards or so,

964
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: and Steve goes, hey, Scott, come here, what is this

965
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: over here? So I walked down there. Steve stand on

966
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: the banks. What's that right over there? And I shined

967
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: my light. We've got pretty good lights. I'm shining on

968
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: this stuff. It's just a something like a To me,

969
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: it almost looked like just a piece of wood floating

970
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: or like under the surface, maybe just just barely sticking

971
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: out of surfaces creek kind of on another bank over there.

972
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: I said, well, I don't know, Steve, you think that's him?

973
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: I was like, ah, I don't know. Anyway, Tim comes

974
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: over there. We say, Tim, is that what do you

975
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: think that is? Oh? Tim? He looks it over and

976
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: as boys, that's him. And I need no more than

977
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: said that, And Steve is running down the creek. Should

978
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: we let's Steve take it from here back to the show.

979
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: Steve goes, leaves me and Tim standing area, and they

980
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: got the light on him. Yeah, we're holding a light

981
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: on him. Dad. We tell Dad, we said, Dad, dere's

982
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: gonna be west of head. Dad. He works his way

983
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: down the bank until he gets over there and Dad

984
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: confirms it. He looks down and he goes, yeah, boys,

985
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: there's our deer. That's him. And anyway, Steve he down

986
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: in heast, crossed the creek. Steve's built this deer up.

987
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: You know, he's a big buck. He's this that biggest

988
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: buck he's ever shot with his bow. I mean, he

989
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: told us all stuff. And he and Dad's Dad's looking

990
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: at the Dad's looking at this buck. You know, he

991
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: can seem good. We can't see him. Dad's looking straight

992
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: down at him almost, and it's four ft drop off

993
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: off off the bluff into this whole water that's over

994
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: your head deep. So Dad just kind of standing there

995
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: looking at him, you know, and Steve says, and you

996
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: see him. He said, Now, Steve, he said, Now, I

997
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: could be wrong, but I don't think that thing's got

998
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: but spok on one side. Yeah. Ch So Steve finally

999
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: gets around Bill's off of that creek. I mean, he

1000
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: just he just hops for the water right there, and

1001
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: it's it's cold. I mean it's you know, it's thirty

1002
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: degrees and it's nearly midnight. I just bail off in

1003
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: there too, and when I do, it's deeper than I thought.

1004
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: I'm up and I get my breath, you know, and

1005
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm right there with that buck, and I look up

1006
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: and then I said, how we gonna get him out here?

1007
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: Will I take my belt off? I take my belt.

1008
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: I take my belt off, and I wrapped him around

1009
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: that deer's horns and I hand him then the belt

1010
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: and while he's pulling, I'm shoving. And we shoved this

1011
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: buck out on the bank up there. Well, I you know,

1012
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: I had to climb out of there four foot up,

1013
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: you know. And I get up and by the time

1014
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: I get up there and he's looking him over deep.

1015
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: We're shoot that thing and he's looking I said, I

1016
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: think its aiming right behind his sho older. Well, there

1017
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: ain't no hole behind his shoulder, okay, And I've had

1018
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: the best hit I ever had. I'm gonna tell you

1019
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: boys right now, if you want to kill one dead

1020
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: like that, the shoot him in the for more artery.

1021
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: But I had got both of them in double double. No,

1022
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: I's wainting that old blood. Well, he said, well, we're

1023
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: gonna drag him. I ain't taking him out here. I said,

1024
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: what do you mean, I said, to see about the

1025
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: big book, you're killing you. I ain't taking him out

1026
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 1: he said, I'll never hear the end of Scott Brown.

1027
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: And he said he will never let me live this down.

1028
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: And the reason that is let me just right. Okay,

1029
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: that's not the first one I shot like that was

1030
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: part two. That was a part two Part two. The

1031
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: first one I did like that down there on the

1032
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: hunting deal. We had another wildcat venture about midnight down there,

1033
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: and I had we had drove down that afternoon and

1034
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: Wayne pet and I had saw the biggest buck I've

1035
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: ever seen in Haward County. I'm I'm not joking. Hugh's

1036
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: probably a one sixty inch buck had a drop time.

1037
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: We rushed back to camp get stands. I come back

1038
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: and I put it in the oak tree that the

1039
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: deer was feeding under with a dope for the exactly

1040
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: right there right there in knee tree. Yeah, and I'm

1041
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: grunting there right it dark, and all of a sudden

1042
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: I hear crash pum pop coming up the hill to me,

1043
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,959
Speaker 1: you know, and I think, oh boy, here's of course,

1044
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: my left leg was quiver and you know as much

1045
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: as these guys, Okay, I just started both hunt and

1046
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: you know how that shakes get with the left leg.

1047
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: Eight wouldn't settle down. Well, finally it got settled down.

1048
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: While I look and here come a nice eight point.

1049
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: Well I just drawed back shoot him, and sure enough

1050
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: I didn't hear where I supposed to. I him back

1051
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: there like that. Well, we foinally got him. I brought that.

1052
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: I brought that, and we got Well, we get back

1053
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: to camp and Scott he puts in on me. Now,

1054
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: Steve flying the world. He got a target and he said,

1055
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 1: a target up back there. Well, I was just stacking

1056
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,479
Speaker 1: the marge in there at twenty thirty yards with a target. Well,

1057
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: let's hold on out of this. I put the target

1058
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: at about twelve yards and that's how far the deer was.

1059
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: And I said, Steve, try to miss that target as

1060
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: bad as you missed that deer. That's tough to do.

1061
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: He's trying to diagnose. Yeah, he's diagnosing tendons on the

1062
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: back hind quarters and telling us he shot it. And

1063
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: I told him my head to live. So now he's

1064
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: out here showing me, trying to tell me what I'm

1065
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: doing wrong. And he said, I just can't fig your

1066
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: sat And so when now back to part two, I

1067
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: shot this book and that happened again. That's a second

1068
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: dear I'd killed. Since that happened. We get back to

1069
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: camp and he's sitting around. He said, I gotta figures out.

1070
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: I think I know what you're doing. I said, well,

1071
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: I'd like you tell me what I'm doing, because that

1072
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: ain't where I'm aiming going, he said. He said, because

1073
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: he's given me this. He said, Now in your mind,

1074
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: when the deer comes up, he said, you need to

1075
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: anchor the same spot. You need to visualize if you're

1076
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: leaning out, you're up thirty foot in the tree. Don't

1077
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: just sticky, bow down, lean out, you know. He and

1078
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: I've got all this going through my mind. You know,

1079
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm thinking all these things. God, I picture him as

1080
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: the bo gay, you know. So I'm doing all these things,

1081
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: but I'm not hitting the deer where I plan to.

1082
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: He's figured it out, he says, I know what you're doing.

1083
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: I said, well, what is it? He said, When you

1084
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: hit that release, you're jerking your head up to see

1085
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: where there's going. That's exactly what I was doing. I'm

1086
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: jerk instead of this letting my air do it the

1087
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: very next deer. Ill I have not shot another deer

1088
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: like that. I have killed deer now, chole Wood. So

1089
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: you're diagnosed, diagnosed, But to watch him y'all just had

1090
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: to be here if this was live TV, to watch

1091
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: him describe to mehow I was doing it. You know,

1092
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: this hilarious. But you know we're with hunting. B if

1093
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: you didn't have walkat ventures, I mean, I have more fun.

1094
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: We have more fun doing crazy stuff. Then you know,

1095
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: it's not about like Andy said, it's not about killing

1096
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: the deer or you know, turkey hunting. I've called this

1097
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: boy right here. I've called all his turkeys but one

1098
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: up and the one I didn't call up for him

1099
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: his his grandmother was in the hospital having a heartcast

1100
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: and fixing to go back. And he's calling me on

1101
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: the phone telling me about this turkey and you don't

1102
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: where to go get to kill it. And I'm on

1103
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: the phone with him and tell him while he's in

1104
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: the woods and I'm talking whispering to him, and he

1105
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: goes up and kills the turkey. So that's not you

1106
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: know Gary was talking about, not about the clicking deer clicking.

1107
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: One night, I was hunting over in the lake and

1108
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: Steve was hunting a little notch and I was hunting.

1109
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: It's just a long ridge that I hunt over there. Anyway,

1110
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: I was up in my big old pine tree, and

1111
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: I was high, and uh, i'd been there all evening

1112
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: starting to get dark, and so I started taking my

1113
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: stuff off to get down, and all of a sudden

1114
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: I heard a deer go to bow and right off

1115
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: down the lake from me, and uh, anyway, I thought

1116
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: wind was coming right up the leg to me. I

1117
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: wasn't winded me. And about that time I could hear

1118
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: a deer coming just in a run, just running right

1119
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: up but not really running hard, but just dumpty thumpty

1120
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: thump cum come right under me and stopped. I was up.

1121
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: I was really too high because I had a little

1122
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: bit of canopy under me. And uh, I was sitting

1123
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: there and miron that deer. In fact, I was gonna

1124
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: I didn't. It didn't really matter to me whether there's

1125
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: a buck or though. I was gonna shoot it, if

1126
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: you know. And about that time I just heard the

1127
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: steer coming thump thump, come, just coming right up the ridge.

1128
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: That dude gets right out there I'm talking about, just

1129
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: just right there. And now it's late and that dude

1130
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 1: goes just like that. Yeah, And of course my hat

1131
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: was standing about that. I old man, I never heard

1132
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: what do that before. I'm just that clicking, you know.

1133
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: And when I seen him, he walked out and he

1134
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: had his tailed up, had his nose on the ground,

1135
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: and I could see horns, and I just pulled in

1136
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: the middle of him. It's his lady Bavitt. Well, I

1137
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: heard it hit him, so I shooting down and I

1138
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: get down there. Of course I've hit him back. I

1139
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: hit him too far back. I got on the air

1140
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: and so I just stuck at dude in the ground.

1141
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: I just walked out quite a way. He's in there.

1142
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: So I went back and Stephen shot one. And and

1143
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,919
Speaker 1: that's another story. Scott to come over there to try

1144
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: to help find Steve's in the ryde. Know when you

1145
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: when the coat coat can run thirty three miles. Now

1146
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:04,959
Speaker 1: I can't run thirty four, but he can run thirty

1147
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: I can. But anyway, Uh, they come over. We looked

1148
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: for Steve. Did five Steve. So we went in there,

1149
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: and back in those days we used to get stuff

1150
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: called blue Star, but it was blue Star, and we

1151
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: took that with us on ever hunt, and I don't

1152
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: know how many hunts that saved us, because that deer

1153
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: we went back to where it was. The deer had

1154
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: good blood going downhill. When he turned uphill, when he

1155
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: turned up, it is quit. And Scott said, of course

1156
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: we had a body gotta shake it up. And little

1157
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: tablet turn all yours and turn all your lights off,

1158
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: and said turned lights off. And of course he sprayed

1159
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,439
Speaker 1: like that, and what what had happened? We had never

1160
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,919
Speaker 1: he just turned he done ninety there, turned double back

1161
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: and he went right off. I'm telling you, just the steepest,

1162
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: just straight down, right down a little old holler. And anyway,

1163
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: we tracked him off down there to the creek, tracked

1164
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: him across the creek and he got up there. And

1165
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: when he crossed the creek. Uh, we didn't go far

1166
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: out there until he had laid down, found it where

1167
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: he had laid. But when he got up, he kind

1168
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: of walked on in towards the ridge and we kind

1169
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: of lost him in anyway, Um, finally we did it

1170
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 1: again and he had turned down an old road run

1171
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: right along the edge of the ridge, and he went

1172
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: what would you say, a hundred yards down there. Probably

1173
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: he went all the way to the water and turned

1174
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: around and come back. He was actually laying face us,

1175
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: and I mean he he hadn't been dead long, he

1176
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: was still and we just rolled him up. We gutted him,

1177
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: rolled him back in the lake, tied him to a stump,

1178
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: and the next morning we drove in put a boat

1179
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: into the lake and drove in there with a boat

1180
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: and coming got him. But that was another wildcat, miserable

1181
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: we found him. But that bull Star was good stuff.

1182
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: That was a big point clicking. But but but Scott as

1183
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: we said, how big he is? I I don't know

1184
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: he's legal. I couldn't tell you it's one seventy or

1185
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: or basketade. But he's a you know when he when

1186
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: he went to clicking, I'm a shooting. Uh. Um. I've

1187
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: got to ask you guys, so of all the stories

1188
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: that you've heard on these two podcasts, and I'll say

1189
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: I've had incredible feedback on these two podcasts. You know,

1190
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to rate feedback from me because

1191
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: I hear a lot of stuff from different people, and

1192
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: we do so much, so much variety between like doing

1193
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: Frontiersman or or highlighting somebody for you know, dry ground

1194
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: mountain lion hunting in Arizona, like this style of podcasts

1195
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: that we just did, this this collection of stories. Um,

1196
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: I had people just loved it. I got really a

1197
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: lot of great feedback, and I'm always shocked any time

1198
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: I asked someone, I say, what was your favorite story?

1199
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: Just random friend? They surprised me every time because in

1200
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: my mind I'm thinking, Oh, it's for sure gonna be this,

1201
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: and they'll tell me this other story. But uh, Branny,

1202
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: what what was? What was your favorite story you heard?

1203
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: Can't pick your own, I'm not I'm not kissing your story.

1204
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: Your story was many people's favorite, the mind shaft buck

1205
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: unique and you told it well too. What's what's awesome

1206
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: about that story? Then I'll move on to your question? Here?

1207
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: Is that again? I didn't. I grew up in a

1208
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: house with my dad worked for the Fourth Service for

1209
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: thirty seven years. He didn't one go in the woods

1210
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: on his days off. He knew her all the deer,

1211
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: all the turkey and all that was, but he had

1212
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: no interest in going on his day off. So I

1213
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: didn't grow up that way. So it wasn't until my

1214
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: thirties really that I really start hunting. And it was

1215
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: working with Scott and talking to Andy and Steve Um,

1216
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: learning about wind and food and you know where to

1217
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: get and it's I mean it was instant. I mean

1218
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: I picked up a bow. Scott told me how to

1219
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: shoot a bow. I was seeing keep your head down

1220
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: on the peep side my first season bow. Honey, I'm

1221
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: seeing mature bucks, which is just unheard of. But you know,

1222
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: it just couldn't quite get it all put together. Um.

1223
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:30,479
Speaker 1: So that hunt worked out well because I was able

1224
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: to on the spot, assess the situation, figure out, you know,

1225
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: what the plan was, where to get and all that

1226
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So, um, I wrote some notes from

1227
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: from the podcast last week, and uh, I did. I

1228
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: did my homework conn those points with me if you

1229
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: take notes on podcast. So uh, James Lawrence said something

1230
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: about the number eleven caps from the muzzleloader, and I

1231
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: have a disdain for those things, like I hate on bad.

1232
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: The very next year, or the year after I killed

1233
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: that mind chef Buck, I scouted a newer and I

1234
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: did it on my own this time. This is the

1235
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: first time I'm going on public land. I'm scouting out

1236
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: an area for myself. I find the spot. I'm on

1237
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: the other side of that mountain so that deer cannot

1238
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: fall in a hole. And I just I planned it out,

1239
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: and you know, like this this is gonna this is

1240
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: gonna be good. I see a buck that rivals that

1241
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: buck or maybe bigger, and don't tell these guys about it.

1242
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: He's leaving. Uh, he's leaving me. Steve probably knows exactly

1243
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: where I'm at, but Uh, he's leaving. And I got

1244
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: one shot and it was probably a little too far

1245
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: and I missed. But when the smoke cleared, that dude

1246
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: had ran all the way up underneath my stand. And

1247
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: I'd learned a lesson the year four. Start reloading. As

1248
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: soon as soon as you shoot, start reloading. So I

1249
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: am reloading and I can't get that number eleven cap

1250
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: you know. I think I dropped one, and then I'm

1251
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: trying to get the other one, and I'm trying to

1252
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: hold it together because this buck is like, I'm kind

1253
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: of up a little ridge. But he is right. If

1254
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: I had a bow, i'd kill him. I mean, he

1255
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: was right there, and as soon as I'm starting to

1256
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: get that in, he's gone. And never never got the

1257
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: second shot off because I couldn't get that number eleven.

1258
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: So I can relate to that story there. I can

1259
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: also relate to uh Janice's story because he's forty three

1260
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: and he just killed his first buck with a bow too,

1261
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: So there's hope for me. I've killed plenty of those,

1262
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, out of a stand with the bow, but

1263
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: I've yet, I've yet to kill a good buck or

1264
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: a buck with with a bow. So um, I thought

1265
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: that was pretty awesome because, hey, you actually teed me

1266
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: up to do something I meant to do at the

1267
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: very beginning. Everybody and their brother. Everybody and their brother

1268
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: has told me that Joannice got the date wrong. Does

1269
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: y'all any of y'all catch that? Huh not? Oh? Like

1270
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: ten thousand people message Jannice he got his years wrong,

1271
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: and he said that he killed the buck in in November,

1272
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: only October two, right now, So anyway, okay, for the record, everyone,

1273
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: thank you for letting me know that you honest got

1274
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:23,799
Speaker 1: the date wrong. Story deserves some embellishment. Yeah, yeah, he uh,

1275
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: he was telling it was a combination of like two

1276
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: years and he's kind of going back and forth, and

1277
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 1: he told the story from the perspective of being and

1278
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: so anyway, so as great of a hundred as he

1279
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 1: is to know that he's still got thinks he's checking

1280
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: off the box. Gives everybody hope. You know that you're

1281
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: gonna be able to do it, but not not to

1282
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: kiss up. Or you have three stories, but my favorite,

1283
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: and I listened to it twice and and I've played

1284
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: it for people, was your story, uh with Harvey. The

1285
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 1: way you told that story and the way it went

1286
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: back and forth. And I love the deck diconomy of

1287
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: you have all the data he gets in the tree

1288
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: the first time, you know, And that's just the way

1289
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: it works. So I've actually quit putting corn and hanging

1290
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: cameras and all that because it'll just make you sick.

1291
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 1: I had a I had a buck. I named him Tebow,

1292
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: just like you named him moose. He had fifteen points

1293
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: on him. Um, this is the first year I'm really

1294
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: bow hunting, and we corned. I had so many big

1295
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: bucks on this piece of property. I was getting hunt

1296
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: and that one came in and it I had one

1297
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,719
Speaker 1: evening where I had been in the stand, I had

1298
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: bucks around me. I just couldn't quite get a shot

1299
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: off because I didn't they didn't quite come in my

1300
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: shooting lanes. And I just an awesome not hunting. And

1301
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: it got dark and I'm close to the train tracks.

1302
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: So as soon as that Steve's taking note over here

1303
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: was train track and property, like he's he's gonna figure

1304
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: me out here. Uh, but the train goes through, So

1305
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: I use that as a cover sound to climb out

1306
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,080
Speaker 1: of the stand at dark. And as soon as I

1307
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: get down, there's t bow and my bow is hanging

1308
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: from the string and like there's no way I'm gonna

1309
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: get all together. And of course he's with two other bucks.

1310
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: Since I think it was an early hunting season that year,

1311
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: so you can still get on those summer bucks, and

1312
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: they were gone. And then I heard a story later

1313
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: and somebody described that buck to a t and killed it.

1314
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: You couldn't find it and couldn't find it, so he's

1315
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: he has not been found. Never saw him again. Next year,

1316
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: same thing, big buck on there, he's a he's a

1317
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: probably a twelve point. Got him on camera, getting on

1318
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 1: the corner like okay, I'm gonna get this buck, and

1319
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: then Scott sends me a picture. We keep bringing up

1320
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,799
Speaker 1: Tim Clark a lot, but Tim had somebody that showed

1321
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 1: him this deer they hit with their car on the

1322
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: highway and it was just the deer's head like flies,

1323
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's my buck. So it's like you know,

1324
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, you just can't. You just can't. The best

1325
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,839
Speaker 1: thing and I wish I had said it real clearly

1326
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: on the moose story, is it really was pretty cool

1327
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: that a hunter that knew what he was doing, even

1328
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: though it was his first hunt on that property and

1329
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 1: put an awesome shot on it. I mean, so many deer,

1330
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: just like what you said, get hit by a car

1331
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: or just disappear and you just lose track of them.

1332
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 1: I was so grateful, I really was that that big

1333
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: deer that I was able to track it down and

1334
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: it was killed by a hunter. That's a good way

1335
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: for an old buck to die. Is it the hands

1336
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 1: of a seasoned hunter or or a young hunt? Just

1337
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 1: just a legal hunting experience for somebody. Absolutely, And to

1338
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 1: hear him, you know how, remember me was that ten

1339
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 1: years later get emotional about it? Just means that man

1340
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 1: that worked out the way it's supposed to. Yeah, you know,

1341
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: I can confirm the night the evening that moose was shot,

1342
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 1: you called me and you said, hey, man, I got

1343
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: some news for you. And I was like, oh yeah,

1344
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 1: and I remember exactly what you said. You said, moose

1345
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: is dead. And when you said that, I thought, holy cow,

1346
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: you finally got killed, and before I could even think that,

1347
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: you went, yeah, a guy on the neighboring property killed him.

1348
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 1: And I remember being sick for you, Like I was

1349
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 1: just sitting there thinking, because you'd sent me pictures that

1350
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: deer for four years in a row and told me

1351
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and I can remember thinking how sick

1352
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: you must have been. But I remember you telling me

1353
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: that you weren't as upset about it. You were just

1354
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: glad it was over. I remember you saying, I'm just

1355
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: glad it's over, Like there was a sense of relief

1356
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 1: that you didn't have to spend another minute trying to

1357
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: figure out where to shoot that deer or whatever it

1358
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: consumed you for about four years. That's a good point

1359
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 1: that I kind of that's become so normal to me,

1360
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: that feeling it was almost relief that that deer was killed.

1361
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: And then ten years later and I can kind of

1362
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: talk about this now, I had another big deer in

1363
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: the same area that I was hunting, exact same scenario,

1364
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: and uh almost dreaded it. And it was a big

1365
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: deer too, I mean a big deer, like hundred and

1366
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: seventy inch type deer, and I had shot at the

1367
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: deer the year before, when it was like a one

1368
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: fifty muzzloader misfired. There was at thirty five yards. I

1369
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: mean just dead. I mean, this deer is walking up.

1370
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: I've got a muzzloader in my hand. I'm like about

1371
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 1: the text of Taxidermist, you know, and uh, I shoot

1372
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: that muzzloader and it just fizzles. The deer lives. The

1373
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: next year, the deer is a hunt. I mean, no doubt,

1374
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy inch deer. And I'm certain that deer

1375
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: is dead too. But when when all that was going down,

1376
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: ten years later, another big buck there, I was almost like,

1377
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this again. I got one

1378
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: out that the been hunting for. This will be the

1379
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 1: fourth year. But you you wait, like Randy was saying

1380
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: about the cameras, you look and you look, and you look,

1381
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: and you don't get him. You don't get him. You

1382
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: thinks something's happened to him, and you wonder, and you

1383
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: wonder and wondering. All of a sudden, you get this picture.

1384
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 1: And he showed me a picture that was him last year.

1385
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: But this one here is the same. Deer may find

1386
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: him here and it's scrolling through his photos here, this

1387
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: is this is the way it goes. I was just there,

1388
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: we'll go head him. But I had him the day

1389
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 1: before season two years ago, had a daylight picture of

1390
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: him and unbelievable. That's the way he goes. Anyway, you'll

1391
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: go ahead and talking short to a minute. But anyway,

1392
01:15:59,960 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: if you just had just you just don't know. And

1393
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: this year he's not showed up like he was last year.

1394
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: He didn't show up too late, got him two different times. Um,

1395
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: right here he is four last giant eight points he's

1396
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: got I'd say that g two right, there's fifteen inches long.

1397
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's huge monster. But you know

1398
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: we've talked about that, Scott and I. You don't really

1399
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: know where he stays. You know, he shows up that

1400
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: two or three years ago. We had him a lot

1401
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: at night. But those guys don't get that big. But

1402
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: being stupid, they know how to survive. Um. I was

1403
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: just about to ask the Believer what his favorite story was,

1404
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 1: and he took a bride of Brownie. Of all the stories,

1405
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: which one stood out to you? Not your favorite? It's

1406
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 1: hard people asking about my favorite. There's all these stories

1407
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: are different. Like Andy his second story he told wasn't

1408
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,959
Speaker 1: even the story that was gonna be on the podcast.

1409
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: I just liked it. So it's hard to compare like

1410
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: Andy telling about his little story admit, you know, shorter

1411
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: in time story to a big thirty minute story that

1412
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 1: we told. So favorite story is the wrong way to

1413
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 1: say it. What stories stood out to you, Dad? Well,

1414
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: the I just listened to the last, you know, I

1415
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: listened to both of them. But when I'm thinking of

1416
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: the second podcast where Andy told his and you're You're

1417
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,719
Speaker 1: Buck wouldn't in that, I was really impressed with thrill kills,

1418
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 1: you know. I mean he dispensed some information that of course,

1419
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: the way I hunt, I couldn't. I couldn't do that.

1420
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it just takes too much time

1421
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: and patience. But you could tell that guy knows what

1422
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 1: the heck he's doing. I'm telling you he is a

1423
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: thinking hunter. That was in my notes and story. But yeah,

1424
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: you know, I like the way he told the story.

1425
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: I like everything about that story, but I like the

1426
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: knowledge that was behind how he hunts. You know, he

1427
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: took two guys put their stories to get, you know,

1428
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: how to hunt, and then applied it. And uh so

1429
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to learn how to hunt, and

1430
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: you go out on your own, monkey around. Are you

1431
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: pick up a book or get with guys like Scott

1432
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 1: and Andy or Clay and you learned every But he

1433
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: he put two really great hunters together. How they did it,

1434
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: put it together and made it well. He gave some

1435
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: good Uh that Brad Herndon. He talked about how and

1436
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: his takeaway was Herndon says, all the signs down low,

1437
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: but hunt up high in the gaps and saddles in

1438
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 1: mountain country, daily country, even if there's not signing the gap,

1439
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 1: so they're gonna end up up there. It was good.

1440
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: And then the other guy was talking about thermal's wind

1441
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,040
Speaker 1: and thermals and you know, he he was able to

1442
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: put it all together. Uh, your story was probably the

1443
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: most intriguing. But I appreciated thrillt Kill story a bunch,

1444
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 1: uh just because of a surprise ending. Man. Uh, I'm

1445
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: a sucker for a surprise ending finding. About ten years later,

1446
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: I thought that's pretty good. Yeah, it was. Unfortunately, I

1447
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: don't I don't. I don't like not finding a deer.

1448
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not you know, I've passed on a

1449
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 1: whole lot of deer, you know, just because you know,

1450
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like not finding one, but it

1451
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 1: just happens. And uh, you know, liver shot, dear, it's

1452
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 1: not gonna go three or four hundred yards, but sometimes

1453
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: it's pretty difficult. It's kind of difficult to find them

1454
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 1: when they just stopped bleeding. Dave any of them stand

1455
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 1: out to you? Yeah, I was gonna tell the truth there.

1456
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 1: If man, you've been hunting a lot longer than the

1457
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 1: bowl and I have. But if you need me to

1458
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: teach you that shot where you can get a lot

1459
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: of blood and get them do one of I'll teach

1460
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 1: you that shot that I've got. You know, you need

1461
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: to know how to do that. You need to Randy

1462
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 1: from the spot in the wrong spot. Man, we hit them,

1463
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 1: we just have to chase, you know. But I liked that,

1464
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: you know, I liked that number second podcast. And what

1465
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: I liked about it you had four stories where they

1466
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 1: didn't get bucks and four stories where they did get bucks,

1467
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 1: and and what I got about all that like Andy's

1468
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: Andy story. I really liked that story. That we all

1469
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: have hunter had hunters have been there. I don't know

1470
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 1: of a one of us that hadn't lost the buck

1471
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: or you know, had these kind of shots you know,

1472
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, and for him to find that sheds.

1473
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: You know, my son in law, he of years back.

1474
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 1: He didn't hunt much, but he he killed a one

1475
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: sixty eight inch buck and made a good shot on it,

1476
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 1: but couldn't find it. And it took him a week

1477
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: going back out and hunting and going back out and

1478
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 1: hunting it until he took his wife, my daughter. They

1479
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: he found it. He saw some crows and buzzards and

1480
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,759
Speaker 1: went up on top of the mountain and he found

1481
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: that buck and it's mounted in his house right now.

1482
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: The codies had already eat it, eat the hide off

1483
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: of it. But he got the he got the deer,

1484
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: he got the horns. So that this shows you, you know,

1485
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: if you kill something big like that, the persistency to

1486
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: stay after it to try to find it. But I

1487
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: know we've all been there, we've all been in that situation.

1488
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 1: So it was really interesting that podcast Cody's ran up

1489
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: there at thirty three. Yeah, they probably did. No can't

1490
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: stop real quick or that thing you know you're just

1491
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: running right over. I'm gonna tell you it's real funny.

1492
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: Andy story and of course Andy and Scott and his

1493
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: a couple years older Scott. But I've been around Andy

1494
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:02,640
Speaker 1: ever since he was a little boy. Anyway, worked with

1495
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: his dad for several years. Gary and anyway, we were

1496
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: we were camped down at uh uh fault in Spring

1497
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 1: Schoolhouse down south to six and uh back in those

1498
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: days we was hunting with J. C. McMillan and Larry

1499
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: and all that bunch, and there was a whole bo

1500
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: dawn trees. And but anyway, we're gonna make a deer

1501
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: drive one day and j C. Instead of happened stance,

1502
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 1: he said, well, now somebody needs to get down that

1503
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 1: swag you know, down there, and then somebody down there

1504
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: at the dead end on the road, and somebody down

1505
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 1: on the creek. Anyway, so he said, uh, he said

1506
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 1: to Gary and Andy. Andy was about probably, and he said,

1507
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 1: why don't you take Indy and you all go Donner

1508
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: and get on the creek and where you had to

1509
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: park to go to the creeks A long ways And

1510
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: I had just bought me I'll tell you how long ago.

1511
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: It was nineteen probably nineteen eighty six, So ain'tybody probably

1512
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: been tenorally at that time? I had a brand new

1513
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 1: nine five Susuki three. It's a three liard I mean,

1514
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 1: had the guns scabbard on it in the racks. I

1515
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 1: mean it was it was a hot dog, I said, Gary,

1516
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 1: I said it said, of y'all having to walk all

1517
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: the way down there, I said, why don't you take

1518
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 1: that three wheeler? He said, you don't care, Well, he

1519
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: never rode a three wheeler in his life. I said, no,

1520
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 1: just hop on that. So they off of it and

1521
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: he gets behind and they got their guns laid out,

1522
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 1: and we take off down this this warehousing road and

1523
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 1: they're in front and me and Doug Blair, one of

1524
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: James is a good buddies just right behind him in

1525
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 1: his suburban. Anyway, Gary's going down through there and he

1526
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: gets gets a looking over his left shoulder, you know.

1527
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 1: Well it gets to getting over in the ditch like that. Well,

1528
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 1: instead of him leaning this way, you know, you gotta

1529
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: lean opposite on those to get him to turn, he

1530
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 1: gives her this right here. And when he did that,

1531
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: ain bit it is, it slammed into the bank of

1532
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:07,719
Speaker 1: the road and it was just three wheeler Gary Andy,

1533
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 1: three whitler, Gary going right down the bar ditch and

1534
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 1: that three wheel was just all over them down through there. Well,

1535
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: when the dust satellite jump out and I rund And

1536
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 1: and Warehouse were lucky to cut the road dishes pretty

1537
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 1: deep there, and I grabbed in and said you okay.

1538
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, where's Dad. I look back up the

1539
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: road and all you can see is with the knees

1540
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 1: back to his boots out of the pine thicket. Where

1541
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 1: else we wound up haul at him to the hospital.

1542
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: He broke five ribs. Smith the whole week laid up

1543
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: in the in the bed. But I mean, so anyway

1544
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 1: about Tuesday, I go in there to check on Gary.

1545
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 1: This is Saturday. And Gary says, ay, if you seen

1546
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: my shotgun? My shotgun? And I said, last time I

1547
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: seen it, Gary, I laid it up on laid it

1548
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 1: up on the bank of the road there where we

1549
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 1: had to wreck. He said, well, I ain't got it.

1550
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: I drive all the way back down there, you know,

1551
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: thirty five miles or forty and there that shotgun is

1552
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 1: laying right where I left it. And that's before all

1553
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 1: the gated roads. People would but that shotgun had never

1554
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 1: been moved in three days. Nobody had been through there.

1555
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 1: But he never put a scratch on the wady, but

1556
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: it's sure Besty's daddy yet. Oh wow, that's why I ran.

1557
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 1: I know you wanted Scott to tell a story for it,

1558
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 1: and he didn't get you one in. But I'm I'm

1559
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 1: done for him to tell one of his buckstories if

1560
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 1: you have time for it. Which one he knows which

1561
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: one it is. Let me tell you my favorite story

1562
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 1: though out of the last episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1563
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 1: we're we're uh, we've been going an hour and a half,

1564
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,640
Speaker 1: so we're we're gonna winder down a little bit, but

1565
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 1: I want My next question was gonna be you, what

1566
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 1: was your favorite one? So listen to all of them

1567
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 1: for different All of us has our favorite for different reasons.

1568
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: But I like most Shepherd's story the best. And the

1569
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 1: reason I do because I've never met Most Shepherd. But

1570
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I know the guy just through you

1571
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 1: and through the magazine and and now through Bear Grease

1572
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 1: and all that. I feel like, you know, I've met

1573
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 1: the guy before it I never have. But I think

1574
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: it's interesting because mos accomplished deer hunter. I mean, the

1575
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 1: guy has killed some big bucks. He's I mean, he's

1576
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: a real deal in my opinion, just listening to the

1577
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 1: guy talk, you can tell you yeah, he's the real deal.

1578
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 1: And he could have picked any story to tell, any

1579
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: story to tell, but it's the one he didn't get

1580
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:22,879
Speaker 1: that he told. And this guy has killed some state

1581
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: class I mean for the state of Arkansas as good

1582
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 1: as they get bucks. And he tells the story of

1583
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 1: a deer that he didn't get. And I sat there

1584
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 1: when I listened to his story, I thought, you know,

1585
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: isn't that true? When I sit and think about dear

1586
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 1: stories to tell, most of the time, it's the one

1587
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: that I almost got but didn't get. Something went wrong,

1588
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: something went south, you said earlier. I had the taxidermist

1589
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 1: on speed dial fixed to call him. And then it

1590
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 1: just falls apart underneath you. And then I thought, what

1591
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: was interesting about mo? He seen that dear a couple

1592
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: of times prior to the encounter he had where he

1593
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: could have killed him. But from that point on he

1594
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: never saw him again. It was like that was it.

1595
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 1: Its the end of story. You get one chance and

1596
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 1: you never hear see the deer ever again. And isn't

1597
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: that true? I mean, that's so I think about all

1598
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 1: the big bucks I never got. I never saw him

1599
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 1: at one time. That was it. It wasn't like I

1600
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: had more than one chance or anything. It was a

1601
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: one time deal. Didn't make it happen, And now you

1602
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: live with that for the rest of your life. I mean,

1603
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: that's there's a pain in that, but that's the stories

1604
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: worth telling most of the time. What what not to

1605
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: do or what went wrong? Or you learn a whole

1606
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: lot more from those hunts then you do the ones

1607
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 1: where you actually shoot something. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, hey,

1608
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 1: I've got a story. I don't want to put you

1609
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 1: on the spot. Andy, if you don't want to tell it,

1610
01:28:56,439 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 1: would you tell us what happened to your finger? Well?

1611
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 1: It was it was October of two thousand. No, that's

1612
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 1: not right. It was October of nineteen seven. I think, Um,

1613
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: a friend of mine, that's when we first. I just

1614
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 1: got into bo hunting Scott. In fact, Scott was both

1615
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 1: hunting before I was by Uh. But anyway, he had

1616
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:31,480
Speaker 1: found some deer sign over on board Camp Creek and uh,

1617
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to beat it out again. Yeah, you

1618
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: can't give your spots over on the creek over over

1619
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 1: over east of town. There's a hundred board Camp creeks.

1620
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 1: But anyway, we had went over there one evening and

1621
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 1: uh uh, I got up a tree stand and that's

1622
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 1: back and I had a shot a high country sniper

1623
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 1: bowl at the time, shot about two ten and had

1624
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: lim aluminum mares that you had to have somebody caring

1625
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 1: for you if you had more and three or four

1626
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 1: you know, the little big airs. But anyway, I sat

1627
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 1: there and stand and and and back in those days,

1628
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 1: I was fighting me and God was fighting and this

1629
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 1: is this is kind of a neat story, but it's

1630
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 1: it is a it's a good story. Um. I said, Lord,

1631
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 1: if you just let me shoot a deer today, I

1632
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,639
Speaker 1: promise you I'll be in church in the morning, okay.

1633
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: And so son's going down here a little well, yeah,

1634
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 1: I hear a little snip snap, and I look and

1635
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 1: here comes this year lynn coming to my stand and

1636
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,719
Speaker 1: it comes in behind me. And of course I still

1637
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 1: do a lot of things wrong in the tree, Sam,

1638
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 1: but I he saw me in it. It run out

1639
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:45,600
Speaker 1: the top of the regiment over there, a broadside, and

1640
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I'm not gonna let you

1641
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 1: get away from me about me slinging air at you.

1642
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 1: And uh, anyway, I cut drive shot under it and

1643
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 1: he'd run out the ridge, and I thought, well, that's it.

1644
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 1: In a minute, I looked over there and here comes

1645
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: that steer back. And so the deer comes back to

1646
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:09,600
Speaker 1: my era, sniffs the era, and comes right into the

1647
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: tree stand and I shoot the deer. Okay, I mean,

1648
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 1: got a picture of it with my farm bureaupe with

1649
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: my ring on. Okay. So we get over to my

1650
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 1: friend's house. We skinned the deer. He said, you know,

1651
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 1: really I ought to go back up and hunt that

1652
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: buck in the morning. And he's got the wood store up,

1653
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 1: and so I did. I went with him. We get

1654
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:46,480
Speaker 1: over there, the winds blown, we get up into the saddle. Um,

1655
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 1: there's deer in my stand. When we get there, deer's

1656
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 1: blowing out, going everywhere. And so at that time I

1657
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,879
Speaker 1: was hunting a portable tree standing with the screwing steps

1658
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 1: and uh, anyway, I had a Fannie pack at the time,

1659
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 1: and so I crawled up in the tree and I'm

1660
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 1: sitting there and in the tree thinking I really don't

1661
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: need to be here. I need to be done. I

1662
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 1: need to be a church. Yet a deal had a

1663
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 1: deal and so uh the guy with Arkansas Democratic come

1664
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 1: out the week before with a story about tree stand accidents,

1665
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 1: and I was sitting there smoking all that over, and

1666
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 1: at the time I just I wore a belt. The

1667
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 1: boys have since got the hardest put over, but I

1668
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 1: just wore a belt around me. But anyway, I was

1669
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: sitting there, and about about nine o'clock, I thought, I

1670
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,160
Speaker 1: want to get down and just go look and see

1671
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 1: if I can find some more sun. So I dropped

1672
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 1: my bow out of my stand, put all the stuff

1673
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 1: in my Fannie pack, and I've got it run in

1674
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:49,600
Speaker 1: front of me. So I started down to stand, and

1675
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 1: when I get down to the bottom step, I was

1676
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: I set the stand kind of on the upside of

1677
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: the saddle, and I set my first step pretty high.

1678
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 1: M hm. So when I got down to the last step,

1679
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 1: when I put my left foot down to get the ground,

1680
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:11,599
Speaker 1: I couldn't reach it. I was tiptoin well. I still

1681
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 1: had my my hand up on the third step. So

1682
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 1: I thought, we'll all this hop off. So how high

1683
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 1: are you off the ground? Foot maybe off the ground?

1684
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 1: And you got your left hand. I got my right

1685
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 1: hand on the on the screw and step and my

1686
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 1: my this this one here, and I just stepped off

1687
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 1: this one on my left foot trying to get to

1688
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: the ground. And so when I hopped off, it was

1689
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 1: just it's just like you hit me with a ballpen

1690
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:45,760
Speaker 1: hammer in the funny bone. And I knew I had

1691
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: really messed up something that had happened. I just grabbed

1692
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 1: my hand and I run about thirty yards up the ridge,

1693
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 1: and I thought I had broke my finger. When I

1694
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 1: opened up my hand to my bone is still attached

1695
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 1: with the nail, and all my finger is bawled up

1696
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 1: in the bomb pomp of my head, all the all

1697
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 1: the meat and my ring. It's caught my ring. My

1698
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 1: ring is hanging from my tending And so I shut

1699
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 1: my hand back like that right quick, and I thought

1700
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 1: that it can't be right. And I opened and of

1701
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 1: course I don't know bone as bone white as is white.

1702
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,640
Speaker 1: But it was so dramatic. It didn't even bleed. It

1703
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 1: wasn't even hardy bleeding. It just looked like you just

1704
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: took it, took my finger and just put it right

1705
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 1: back over the bone. So anyway, I went back to

1706
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 1: the tree and got my bow down and took a

1707
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 1: shirt off and wrapped my hand up and hard at

1708
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 1: wrain and he come down there and he said, what

1709
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: did you do kill another tear? And I said, no,

1710
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 1: I've hurt myself. And anyway, I showed it to him,

1711
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 1: and of course I had my face paint on, you know,

1712
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 1: and brought me into the yard room and um a

1713
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 1: j cold. My preacher at that time met me at

1714
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 1: the e er. Tina had called him and he, I mean,

1715
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 1: of course he had no sympathy for me. Whatso everybody

1716
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 1: shouldn't have. He said, look here, son, what where should

1717
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 1: we should have been this morning? You know? Yeah? Yeah,

1718
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 1: call me out. But anyway, doctor they sent the doctor

1719
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 1: in and he told me, he said, you know, there

1720
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 1: might be a chance they could put it back, but

1721
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 1: you'd always have a stiff finger. And I said, no,

1722
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 1: you just take that dude off, and so they did.

1723
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 1: And so that's where he's I walked around with three

1724
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 1: fingers and I said all this to say this, if

1725
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 1: you tell God you're gonna do something, you need better

1726
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 1: keep your word. Mhm. Lesson learned, because as soon as

1727
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 1: it happened, I had no idea. I mean I had

1728
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 1: there was no question in my mind. Why did he

1729
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 1: let just happen to me? So that's the story, and

1730
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 1: spitting tobacco and leaving your finger in the wood me

1731
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 1: because I thought they could slide that dude right back

1732
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 1: on there up there too. I came in see it. Yeah,

1733
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 1: I came in the emerging room there and they had

1734
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 1: him back there, and I went in and it's just

1735
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 1: like your skin of uh coons tail and he I

1736
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 1: went over and looked at it and this he thought

1737
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 1: they shou gonna be able to put it back on

1738
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 1: sword on and that doctor was there and so the

1739
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 1: bone was fine, the bones still had the fingernail attached

1740
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,680
Speaker 1: to your skin. All the meat right off this in

1741
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 1: his hand and he said, noping. So I stewed it

1742
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 1: there with him when he took that off, had to

1743
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 1: eat or do you know what I sit there? He's

1744
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,759
Speaker 1: got like a big old pair of dog tonail clippers.

1745
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 1: Well that uh you know. The silicone rings are a

1746
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 1: big deal these days, and Andy, I think about you

1747
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 1: all the time because I usually wear a wedding ring.

1748
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 1: I actually don't have it on tonight because I took

1749
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 1: it off last night and said it buy my computer

1750
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 1: and forgot to put it on this morning. But I'm

1751
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 1: gonna get a silicone ring. Well, to lose a finger,

1752
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 1: that's a good one to lose. But you know there's

1753
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:04,680
Speaker 1: a purpose for that that. I say this jokelly, but

1754
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of truth to this. You don't take

1755
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:11,720
Speaker 1: change in that hand if you do, and it's his

1756
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 1: ring finger on the right side. And there's not a

1757
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 1: morning that goes by in the world that I don't

1758
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:20,640
Speaker 1: drop the soap that hand right there. I have to

1759
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 1: pick out up a time or everybody. So there is

1760
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 1: a purpose for that. And he'll tell you that for years,

1761
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 1: he'd say, my fingers eating, he's not there. It's just

1762
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 1: like you've got a stiff. Wow. That's wild. Well that's

1763
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 1: really interesting, and that's what a story man. Yeah. Yeah,

1764
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 1: I think there's a scripture that says better to not

1765
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 1: make a vow to God than to make one and

1766
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 1: not keep it. Yeah, well that's good man. I wasn't

1767
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 1: looking for a spiritual lesson. Boom, we got one that'll

1768
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 1: work for me. Hey, we've been going for Wow. Now,

1769
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for coming and being part

1770
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 1: of this. We didn't even get to talk to Hey,

1771
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 1: give that headset Toki for just second. Sorry, coy. I

1772
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 1: always have big plans. So this is ky house, um

1773
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 1: Steve's grandson. I went to school with Ki's dad and

1774
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: Koi's mom. Ki, you killed that big hog the other day.

1775
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:20,759
Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me this whole story again.

1776
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was this morning. I did. I did.

1777
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 1: It was this morning. Um, now what do you what

1778
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 1: are you doing these days? Um? Well, I was going

1779
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 1: to college. Um got hurt. It's a long playing snack

1780
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 1: injury over at Washtap Baptist. And so now I'm back

1781
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 1: here and I'm running my own uh forestry, mulchen land,

1782
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 1: clearing all that kind of stuff, doing all that and

1783
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 1: so enjoying that. And then um, Friday nights, I do

1784
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 1: the radio here. So for the football team. You announced

1785
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 1: for the football to Okay, so I enjoy that. Cool.

1786
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 1: Now how old are you? I'm nine team, nineteen years old?

1787
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 1: You in your your big hunter killed a bunch of

1788
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 1: turkeys and you're telling my dad about a big buck

1789
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 1: you let slip through your fingers this year. I did,

1790
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 1: And I will tell if you don't mind it to

1791
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 1: a little quick story. So in that same spot last year,

1792
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 1: first buck I killed with the bow, first buck. It

1793
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 1: would be it would be a year ago this coming weekend,

1794
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:25,160
Speaker 1: coming from college, all the guys were down there at

1795
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: camp Harriett County. I didn't have time to run down there.

1796
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: I called Paula. I said, what do you think I

1797
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 1: should go in the morning, said, I don't even know

1798
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 1: where to go. He said, go up there and getting

1799
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 1: that gap. I'm not gonna name where some of the

1800
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 1: guys in here, no exactly where it's at. So he said,

1801
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:41,680
Speaker 1: go up there and getting that gap. You've been up

1802
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:44,759
Speaker 1: there before. You know there's deer sign. So I climbed.

1803
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 1: I got up there, and you know there's an old

1804
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 1: staining in the tree up there. Climb in it, get

1805
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 1: set in. It's breaking light, cold, good, perfect morning, have

1806
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 1: a just like a one or two mile an hour

1807
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,000
Speaker 1: north wind. Well. I had seen some buck sign in

1808
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:02,720
Speaker 1: the road walking in. So I got up there, dug in.

1809
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 1: I ain't seen a deer. It's like thirty nine o'clock.

1810
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 1: Ain't seen a deer. And I said, I you know,

1811
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 1: I started, well, this is pitiful. You know, you kind

1812
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 1: of get you kind of get upset at yourself. I said,

1813
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna grunt and I gonna and I'm I'm tired.

1814
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:18,760
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people. Paula. I'll probably tell you

1815
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 1: because he's hunted close to me, can hear me? I

1816
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,640
Speaker 1: like to get vocals sometimes, and sometimes I I like

1817
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:26,720
Speaker 1: to know it. Hey, if there's a big buck in

1818
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:30,080
Speaker 1: the area, I want Yeah, he's gonna know I'm here.

1819
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: Sometimes just tell him sometimes. So I let out the

1820
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:38,600
Speaker 1: biggest right is on a grunt. And I sitting there

1821
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 1: about two or three minutes, and I see this tree

1822
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 1: just going crazy. And I said, well, that's just a

1823
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,640
Speaker 1: squirrel jumping back and forth. Well it keeps doing it,

1824
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 1: and so I get down and literally, I have my

1825
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: harness on. I stretched my harness, which you know probably

1826
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't say all the way down. I grab a hold

1827
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 1: and I looked down and this is I mean good

1828
01:40:56,080 --> 01:41:00,280
Speaker 1: size bug hunting twenty five inch buck eight point and

1829
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 1: he's shaking this, I mean just treager. He just shake it.

1830
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,639
Speaker 1: And I said, oh my gosh, you know about that time,

1831
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 1: I get really wound up, bad, bad, bad, bad like it.

1832
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 1: It's like your grandpa, Oh yeah, high perventilating like I

1833
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 1: just turkey hunting's bad too. So anyways, so I grunt

1834
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 1: at him again. About that time he turns and he

1835
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:23,760
Speaker 1: comes straight to me and he's just but but, and

1836
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 1: I said, he's gutting back at Oh yeah, big time,

1837
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,640
Speaker 1: big time. Well, he stopped and he starts making a

1838
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: scrape about fifty yards out there right behind, so I

1839
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:34,920
Speaker 1: can't get a good shot. And I said, oh my gosh.

1840
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 1: You know, by the time I'm getting answer, it's it's

1841
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 1: going longer. I'm getting answer. Well, I grunt again and

1842
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: I snort weez at him all but he was mad.

1843
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: He was mad. I'm waiting for this to be a

1844
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 1: two inch deer. I know. Hey. Well, he tries to

1845
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 1: go around me and get wind of me, and I

1846
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 1: was grunting and he was. He was still going behind me.

1847
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 1: He was gonna win me. And I let out a

1848
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 1: big grunt and he turned and come right back down

1849
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 1: to the heill in front of me. And he went

1850
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:05,559
Speaker 1: down there about forty five yards. I arranged you, and

1851
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:06,960
Speaker 1: I thought he's gonna come up to me more so

1852
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 1: I get a good shot. Well, he stops and he

1853
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 1: starts making a scrape. I said, man, I think I

1854
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 1: guess I want to shoot this buck about that time.

1855
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of the other guys in

1856
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:19,639
Speaker 1: here have ever seen it or not. That buck snort

1857
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,639
Speaker 1: wheezed is one of the coolest things I've ever seen.

1858
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 1: But it's like they hunch up and then they let

1859
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:31,759
Speaker 1: out that well, he starts making a scrape. Long story short,

1860
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 1: I pull back forty five yards, I shoot him, and

1861
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 1: it actually hits his shoulder and goes up and hits

1862
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 1: a spine, and so he just drops right there like

1863
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 1: a tone of bricks and as the first buck I

1864
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 1: killed with the boss. So he gave you the whole

1865
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 1: gamut of vocalization. Brown. You brown boys are running second

1866
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 1: to this kid, right, But I am the first person

1867
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,280
Speaker 1: that did get a phone call? Is this man right here?

1868
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 1: And I called him five times because he wouldn't answer.

1869
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 1: If you know anything, I like to call until I

1870
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 1: get an answer because I'm pumped up and tell you

1871
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 1: my story. Yeah, what a great story. That's good. I've

1872
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: got to tell this story. Clay. Okay, this is the

1873
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:24,640
Speaker 1: longest beggary shred. You may not want to put this

1874
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 1: in for your own uh you don't want to shame

1875
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 1: yourself or whatever. But there's a story. Yeah, everybody needs

1876
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:36,839
Speaker 1: about this, you know, just get just give the semi

1877
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:39,759
Speaker 1: condensed version. All right, Well, you know everybody, Clay Clay

1878
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 1: start out shooting compound bows all this stuff, and he

1879
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 1: decided that wasn't challenging enough at some point in his life,

1880
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 1: and so he went shooting a piece of wood with

1881
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:50,080
Speaker 1: a string tied to it, trid archeries all that, and

1882
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 1: that wasn't that's too technologically advanced. And so this year

1883
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 1: he started shooting homemade broadheads out of rock and other stuff.

1884
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:02,800
Speaker 1: And so Clay going deep human on us. He's going backwards,

1885
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like where everybody else is

1886
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:11,000
Speaker 1: like acceptance of technology, Clay is fighting against technology for him,

1887
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 1: and he's going backwards. But what a lot of people

1888
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:16,719
Speaker 1: don't know is Clay was doing that a long time ago,

1889
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 1: because before before fulsome points and spears and all that,

1890
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 1: you had to just catch it with your bare hands

1891
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:27,679
Speaker 1: and eat it, right. I mean, that's that's the most

1892
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 1: primitive thing you can do, is just go catch it

1893
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:32,679
Speaker 1: with your bare hands. Right. Well, I've seen him in action,

1894
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 1: or at least i've seen him attempted in action. And

1895
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 1: uh Now, seriously, though, Clay and I went to college

1896
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:45,600
Speaker 1: together from northwest Arkansas, and the weather up there is

1897
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 1: a lot different than it is here. It's only a

1898
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 1: hundred and what probably thirty miles, but it's like you're

1899
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 1: in a whole another part of the country. Uh, the

1900
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:55,759
Speaker 1: elevation is a bit higher, but we get lost. Snow

1901
01:44:56,120 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 1: went up there absolutely. So I was out of college.

1902
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 1: You were, you were married, You're probably still in college.

1903
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 1: I'm guessing you and Misty were I think your prey

1904
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 1: grove at the time. And Clay, we we get about

1905
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 1: a six inch snow north Starksa. Clay calls. He says, hey, man,

1906
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:20,120
Speaker 1: let's go hunting. Let's let's go to this management area

1907
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 1: that's kind of outside of town here, and let's go

1908
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 1: get in the stand. You think we'd kill some deer

1909
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 1: up there, And I said, man, I think we can.

1910
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 1: I think we can hunt the edge of these This

1911
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:32,680
Speaker 1: management area had these planted food plots, green as they'd be,

1912
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, just gorgeous places. I thought that we go

1913
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 1: up there and hunt those food plots. One of us

1914
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 1: get shot at a deer. Clay's like, man, I got

1915
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 1: a buddy named Josh Barger wants to go with us.

1916
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 1: You don't care if he goes. I say, heck no,

1917
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 1: more of the merrier and better chances of shooting something.

1918
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 1: So Clay has this old jeep, the jeep chair held

1919
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 1: jeep cherit thin of thingfu only burnt to the ground

1920
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 1: or something. Don there caught fire or something. No, no,

1921
01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 1: it wasn't that one. Not that it did catch on

1922
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 1: fire one time, but it didn't burn it the ground.

1923
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 1: I drove it the years after that, ye burn it

1924
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 1: half burnt to the ground. Anyway, we we load up

1925
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 1: and we go to this management area, and really it

1926
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 1: seems like I remember right when we're driving through that thing.

1927
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 1: We're putting the first tracks on the ground, and that thing,

1928
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody had driven through it. I mean

1929
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 1: nobody had been out. It's January, probably late January, and

1930
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 1: it is cold. I remember it being like once it

1931
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 1: isn't the teens when we got up there, and so

1932
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:31,599
Speaker 1: you and Josh had this idea they're gonna go hunt

1933
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 1: the edge of these food plots and closer were you

1934
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 1: gonna get. And I said, you know, I know this

1935
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 1: game trail that I hunt there in the fall that

1936
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 1: is headed to one of these food plots. I think

1937
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 1: I'll just hunt that. And when I tell you it's

1938
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 1: right on the side the road. It is literally fifty

1939
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 1: yards from the main road, but you can't see it.

1940
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 1: You can't see where the spot is it's real steep

1941
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 1: off the side the road there. It's on the way

1942
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:56,840
Speaker 1: in there. Clay just dumps me out, and him and

1943
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:58,360
Speaker 1: Josh they go on. And so I get up in

1944
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 1: a tree, and evening goes along long, and I'm not

1945
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:03,680
Speaker 1: seeing anything well right at dark, I looked down this

1946
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 1: trail and here comes a whole bunch of does and

1947
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:08,720
Speaker 1: year ones. And that's just what I'm looking for. I mean,

1948
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm just looking for some meat, you know. So here

1949
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 1: comes I pick out this lead though. She comes down

1950
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 1: the trail just like I've just like I imagined it

1951
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 1: was gonna happen. I come to full draw. Dough walks

1952
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:25,679
Speaker 1: out there, maybe twenty yards, probably not even twenty yards.

1953
01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 1: I shoot, and when I shoot, I don't know what happens.

1954
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 1: I don't know. I couldn't tell you what happens. I

1955
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 1: know I had every bit of clothes I owned on.

1956
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:38,600
Speaker 1: I know I was just overdressed because it's cold. I

1957
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 1: don't know if my strain, my sleever, what. But I

1958
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:45,719
Speaker 1: shot this dear about four or five inches further back

1959
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 1: than what I wanted. I'd liver shot her, I thought

1960
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 1: I did. That's what the arrow looked like to me

1961
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 1: when I shot her. Well, she just wheels out of

1962
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 1: there and runs back down the trail the way she

1963
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 1: came in. Steve doesn't have his head sat and Steve,

1964
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 1: but you gotta stand up for your grandpa. You gotta say, see,

1965
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 1: I tell you that, yeah, shooting in the wrong spot.

1966
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:12,160
Speaker 1: So anyway, what I what my eyes saw was that

1967
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 1: I shot the deer a little too far back, I thought.

1968
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:17,760
Speaker 1: So I sat till dark and I get down and

1969
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 1: I walk out there. My arrow looks great, and there's

1970
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 1: lots of blood. Of course, it's snow on the ground,

1971
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 1: so you can just you know what I mean. You

1972
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 1: don't have to look for it. It's just it's just

1973
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 1: on the snow. You can sit it real good. So

1974
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 1: I walked back out to the road and I wait around,

1975
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 1: and it's a while before Josh and Clay come by.

1976
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 1: And when they pull up, they have seen, if memory

1977
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 1: serves me correct, together saw like fifty deer between the

1978
01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 1: two of you. Well, and plus what I saw, I

1979
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 1: saw a thirty three deer from the stand that day.

1980
01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 1: And then Josh saw like in the teens, I want

1981
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 1: to say, and I saw five. I think it's altogether

1982
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 1: it was over fifty deer we saw from the stand

1983
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 1: one evening and they're going on on about it, and

1984
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 1: I said, boys, i've only seen five, but I did

1985
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 1: shoot one. Man Josh didn't get one. Nope, they didn't

1986
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 1: shoot one. But they've seen a bunch. I said, oh,

1987
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 1: I've shot one, clays like you did. And I said, yeah,

1988
01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 1: said I don't know that I hit her all that great.

1989
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 1: I'm not real sure. Here's my arrow. We looked at

1990
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:17,640
Speaker 1: the arrow Clays like, man, arrow looks good. You know,

1991
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 1: we're all we're we're feeling like maybe it's better than

1992
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 1: I thought. So it's been a couple of hours probably

1993
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 1: since I shot her, and so we elect to go

1994
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:28,680
Speaker 1: down and just kind of get on the blood and

1995
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 1: see what the blood looks like, how good the blood trailers.

1996
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:34,559
Speaker 1: So we get down there in the snow and we

1997
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 1: walked down through there and we don't walk very far.

1998
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:39,799
Speaker 1: I want to say, we walk about forty yards maybe fifty.

1999
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:44,000
Speaker 1: And it's dark. It's real dark. We've all got I

2000
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:45,800
Speaker 1: don't think we had headlines back then. We just had

2001
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:48,719
Speaker 1: these old you know, the best flashlight you could buy

2002
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 1: that would fit in your pocket, you know what I mean.

2003
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:52,640
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't real great flashlights. But we're going out

2004
01:49:52,720 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 1: there and we shine up the trail there where this

2005
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:57,720
Speaker 1: blood trail is going, and there's a set of eyes

2006
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:04,120
Speaker 1: sitting there looking at us in the dark. And Clay goes,

2007
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:10,559
Speaker 1: there she is right there. She ain't dead, and I'm like, man,

2008
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 1: dang it, no, she's not. What do you want to do?

2009
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 1: We sit there for a minute. Clay goes, I'll tell

2010
01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 1: you what we're gonna do. And I said, well, we're

2011
01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:25,679
Speaker 1: gonna do. He goes, We're just gonna take off and

2012
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:34,160
Speaker 1: just jump on that bit. And I said really, and

2013
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:37,679
Speaker 1: Clay He's like, yeah, man, let's just let's just bull

2014
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:44,639
Speaker 1: rush her. She was right there, and I'm like, we're

2015
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 1: gonna let this stair get away. I'm like, man, I

2016
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 1: don't know about all that. I've never done this before,

2017
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 1: you know. And I said, Clay, man, wherever you think.

2018
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:57,640
Speaker 1: He's like, man on the count of three, let's just

2019
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:03,080
Speaker 1: go jump on her. And I said, all right, So

2020
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 1: we won to threat and we take off. Clay's in

2021
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 1: the lead, Josh right behind him, and me right behind Josh,

2022
01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:14,439
Speaker 1: and we're running through the snow in the middle of

2023
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 1: the night. I mean, it's not the middle of night.

2024
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:18,879
Speaker 1: It's probably m We're running out there there, it's dark.

2025
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 1: We're crashing off down through there, and the deer just

2026
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 1: just runs off. I mean just you know, like the

2027
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:29,559
Speaker 1: deer's like you idiots, you know, and just takes off

2028
01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 1: and runs off the end of this ridge. And Clay

2029
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 1: and Josh right after, I mean, like like dogs on

2030
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 1: a rabbit. And I realized right quick that this was

2031
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:46,880
Speaker 1: a bad plan, and so I just pulled up there

2032
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 1: and let them go. And I'm watching them guys run

2033
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 1: out of sight down this in the light. All you

2034
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:57,760
Speaker 1: can see is is like lights bouncing off down through

2035
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:00,519
Speaker 1: there in the light. We're about to catch it. And

2036
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 1: I sitting there looking at that, and I just looked

2037
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 1: toward in my left and there's my deer laying there.

2038
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 1: So anyway, I yelled, no, of course, they're in the

2039
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:19,680
Speaker 1: they're in the heated race. Man. They don't even hear me.

2040
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:24,680
Speaker 1: So they finally they realized they got enough stamming at

2041
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 1: the brother's dear dad and man, sorry, dude, they're down

2042
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 1: the butt of this ridge. I said, I said play

2043
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:39,559
Speaker 1: and he's like yeah, and I said, man, the deer's

2044
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:46,640
Speaker 1: right here. So anyway, they turned around you're not that

2045
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:48,680
Speaker 1: she didn't go. Yeah, it was a great It was

2046
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 1: a great shot. The shot was better than what I

2047
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:53,599
Speaker 1: thought it was. Anyway, she didn't go anywhere. I mean,

2048
01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 1: she was dead within thirty seconds and me shooting her.

2049
01:52:55,960 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure this happen. H play catching animals. You know

2050
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 1: he caught that turkey that time. He's chasing alive, dear,

2051
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:08,559
Speaker 1: not even shot. Well, we're riding four wheelers and I

2052
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 1: got this high performance deal and plays plays driving it

2053
01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:15,600
Speaker 1: as fast as it'll go. And uh I topped the

2054
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:17,920
Speaker 1: hill on a little slow four wheeler and looked down

2055
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 1: and the four wheelers looked like he'd been in a round.

2056
01:53:20,360 --> 01:53:23,160
Speaker 1: I was, I was. I was in front of Dad

2057
01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 1: riding his real fast Yamaha three for the Banshee. Yeah. Yeah,

2058
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 1: all the slow four wheelers are in the back. Me

2059
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 1: and brother in law, we're running slow. I topped the

2060
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 1: hill and there's my clay baby down there with fenders

2061
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:41,040
Speaker 1: laying in the road. Man, I'm thinking he's he could

2062
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 1: be dead, you know. So I'm rushed down here, jump off,

2063
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 1: I'll get the looking for and he's about twenty yards

2064
01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:53,479
Speaker 1: away in a creek with the dough And when this

2065
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:58,719
Speaker 1: pocket knife, and boy, he's got that sucker. He finally

2066
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 1: cuts her throat and we water up, put her on

2067
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:03,880
Speaker 1: the back of the fourth Winter and take her to

2068
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:07,719
Speaker 1: a buddy Mine's house and drop it off. But we're shocking.

2069
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:11,760
Speaker 1: There was a little more to this. No, I was

2070
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 1: I was riding. I really don't know how fast I

2071
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 1: was going. I was going fast, I mean I wanted

2072
01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 1: I said fifty miles an hour. Maybe I wasn't going

2073
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:27,200
Speaker 1: that fast fast. And I never saw the deer. I

2074
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 1: just felt something just slam into me in the four wheeler.

2075
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 1: And this is what's fortunate about it is that she

2076
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 1: didn't get caught up, like I didn't hit her in

2077
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 1: the front. If I had hit her in the front,

2078
01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:43,880
Speaker 1: she'd got underneath me done like Andy and Gary. But

2079
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:48,000
Speaker 1: they but the fourther it felt like it just scooted

2080
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 1: over two ft. It just bam hit me, and it

2081
01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:53,400
Speaker 1: just and I just skid on the brakes and I

2082
01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 1: turned around and there's this dough flopping around on the

2083
01:54:56,160 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 1: road and their fenders slam all over. And the only

2084
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:03,120
Speaker 1: thing I knew to do was killer was to go

2085
01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 1: after and so we did. Hey, what was what was

2086
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 1: really strange about that? Is probably a month before that,

2087
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 1: I was on the same benchie and I was running

2088
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 1: it as hard as you can run out of a trail,

2089
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:22,520
Speaker 1: at least fifty five maybe more. And a deer jumps

2090
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:25,920
Speaker 1: out right smack dab in front of my stinking four

2091
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 1: wheeler and it it looked like a cardboard box here

2092
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:34,440
Speaker 1: and it comes out in my right tire hits it

2093
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:37,960
Speaker 1: and it slings to me like this my tire, my

2094
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 1: wheel into the tire. I'm running down your knee into

2095
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 1: the tire like I'm not just about off. And you know,

2096
01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm saying, okay, this is my first big wreck.

2097
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay down and roll, and all of a sudden,

2098
01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 1: going sevent I'm just gonna lay down a roll in

2099
01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:00,560
Speaker 1: the ground, I said, Lord, if you get me up,

2100
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, this thing just hops back and

2101
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:15,840
Speaker 1: drops into a soft ditch, slows down. Everything's cool. The

2102
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:19,880
Speaker 1: guy I'm riding with finally catches up, and you know,

2103
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 1: we came home two weeks later, which is which is

2104
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 1: wild that you didn't just ars hole in my gene. Anyway,

2105
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 1: they have it all right together. Yeah, all these you know,

2106
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:41,040
Speaker 1: all these deers are riding. We get we get too

2107
01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 1: deer there and yeah a month, well, we've had lots

2108
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:48,640
Speaker 1: of surprise endings on this one. These were good editions.

2109
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. I really appreciate it, enjoyed it, yea.

2110
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:57,400
Speaker 1: And all the stories that you guys and other people told,

2111
01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 1: we're really really great. And I meant what I said.

2112
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 1: I think these stories we take it for granted because

2113
01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 1: it's what we do all the time. I mean, that's

2114
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 1: what all right are. These stories are are really deeply

2115
01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 1: meaningful to us as humans. That's what I was trying

2116
01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 1: to say in these things, even dear stories, even funny

2117
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:24,400
Speaker 1: stories there there, they're significant. And uh, yeah, so I

2118
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:28,160
Speaker 1: appreciate it, guys. Glad to thank for haavens. Yeah, man,

2119
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:31,480
Speaker 1: keep the will places wild, Keep the wilds.