Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to episode fifty three, The Bobby Cast
Speaker 1: in the House, with Jay going, I'm gonna see you.
Speaker 1: It's good to be here. Man. You text me about
Speaker 1: an hour and a half ago saying you're bringing juices over.
Speaker 1: I don't see any juices. Well, I saved the story
Speaker 1: to tell you because, um, I've had a crazy day today,
Speaker 1: so I woke up or I was excited about this.
Speaker 1: I will tell you to just like kind of see
Speaker 1: you outside of the whole realm of you never been
Speaker 1: to my house, huh. I haven't lived here very long either,
Speaker 1: though I haven't. But something too is like I think too,
Speaker 1: like about going into the show on your show, as
Speaker 1: great as it is, like like you know today, like
Speaker 1: I showed up here, like I don't have anybody with me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, with all due respected people
Speaker 1: around me and in the label and stuff like sometimes
Speaker 1: for all of us artists, I think I speak on
Speaker 1: behalf of it. Was like you sometimes go to that
Speaker 1: show and like you've got so many people around you
Speaker 1: and they're trying to tell you things like you don't know,
Speaker 1: like you've never done this before, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: you or you know what I'm saying, and it always
Speaker 1: seems like it's kind of you mentioned long form earlier
Speaker 1: with more of a short form kind of short interviewee
Speaker 1: kind of thing. It's never really that comfortable. So I
Speaker 1: was looking forward to getting comfortable in your chair at
Speaker 1: your home, man and chatting with you. It's a thunderstorming
Speaker 1: outside too, so the ambiance is there. Juice story, So
Speaker 1: all I know is about I better go, Jake since
Speaker 1: me at Texas. Hey, I'm coming over. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stop and get you some men. You know, no good fruit?
Speaker 1: Do you like grapefruit juice? And I reply back, not really,
Speaker 1: but do you mean quote grapefruit juice? Because then not really,
Speaker 1: which was funny. But see what my mom raised me.
Speaker 1: When you go to someone's home, uh you know, it's
Speaker 1: like nice to take a gift. And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: you're a healthy guy, and I like juices, and I
Speaker 1: had to go there anyways, garps and juice today. I
Speaker 1: thought you'd like some juice. I like grapefruit juice just
Speaker 1: be I'm a Florida guy, like that citrus. But they
Speaker 1: sometimes a grape frutjuice can get a little acidic, so
Speaker 1: they throw that mint in there. To offset it. They
Speaker 1: make them in a nice craft, so I had her
Speaker 1: make a grapefruit have they She said, you have not
Speaker 1: tried charcoal water, which I highly recommend. Wait, who said,
Speaker 1: how does somebody know what I've had? Uh, well, there's
Speaker 1: a girl there that owns the place, and I guess
Speaker 1: not at a few other people have gone there before
Speaker 1: and picked you up some juices. And I said, have
Speaker 1: you ever had has he ever taken some of the
Speaker 1: charcoal water? She said, I don't think he has. So
Speaker 1: I had you a thing of mint charcoal water, and
Speaker 1: then cash you milk, which is great. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if you're a cash you guy, but I figured to
Speaker 1: give you a different choice. And where are all these toys?
Speaker 1: It's like, you know I was gonna get you for Christmas?
Speaker 1: We no, no, But here's the this is the thing, man.
Speaker 1: And I thought about like making up an excuse as
Speaker 1: to like why could and then I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: the honest truth. So I called her that's upset it
Speaker 1: all up? Was ready to go there today. Well, my dog,
Speaker 1: I thought, ran off because I was in the studio
Speaker 1: doing some singing in my house and I looked everywhere
Speaker 1: for him. Gotten drove down the road was screaming, and uh,
Speaker 1: he was locked in my bathroom downstairs in the in
Speaker 1: the garage. She locked himself in there, which I never
Speaker 1: looked in there. So I searched for an hour, so
Speaker 1: I was behind time at this point. Then I literally
Speaker 1: can't find my wallet, so there was no way I
Speaker 1: could go to the place and actually pay for the juices.
Speaker 1: But couldn't you as Jay Going, the guy they know,
Speaker 1: the country star, say hey, let me just put this
Speaker 1: on my and I don't expect you to do it,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying no. I thought about that, but
Speaker 1: I was like, man, that's even weirder than just being honestly.
Speaker 1: They're telling you that I can't find I mean right
Speaker 1: right now, I'm gonna be honest, like it's a weird
Speaker 1: feeling not knowing where your wallet is. Oh, you don't
Speaker 1: know what what it right now. I've looked forward for like
Speaker 1: a day. You'll find it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But when I find it, I'll get you some you
Speaker 1: know what's gonna be a day though, is over the
Speaker 1: threshold of you'll find it. Yeah, But I checked my
Speaker 1: debit card and there's been no activity. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's stolen, but if you go over a day, it
Speaker 1: means it's somewhere. It's it's out of your normal circle
Speaker 1: of cycle, right, so it's hard to just stumble upon
Speaker 1: it again unless you remember where you went. I just
Speaker 1: constantly I am losing losing things. I've told people for
Speaker 1: a long time, Like I literally a lot of times
Speaker 1: I don't don't know where my keys are, I lose
Speaker 1: my wallet, but I can remember everywhere, Like on the
Speaker 1: way over here, Snoop Dog, What's my Name? Came on
Speaker 1: on on random Shuffle and my iTunes and I was
Speaker 1: just singing every word. And it's odd that you can
Speaker 1: remember things like that, but you can't remember where to
Speaker 1: put your wallet in the same place every time you
Speaker 1: come home. I'm the opposite. I can't remember a lyric
Speaker 1: to say in my life, but you have. You're meticulous
Speaker 1: about facts, and it's not even. I don't lose things,
Speaker 1: and when I do, I know where I lost them,
Speaker 1: Like I can go, oh, you know what, I lost
Speaker 1: my keys? Where would I have lost my keys? And
Speaker 1: I can go right to them without no one can't
Speaker 1: do that. It's weird. Get parts of the brain, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's odd. I can remember things back when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, I mean, like detailed things, and my
Speaker 1: mom even to this dale say like, how do you
Speaker 1: remember that? I don't know. Isn't a funny remember phone
Speaker 1: numbers though, like as a kid, like I remember my
Speaker 1: best friends phone number. You don't have his parents might
Speaker 1: do that. Okay, well still somebody has that number, probably um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I remember all. We don't have to though.
Speaker 1: Now I don't know directions for the most part, because
Speaker 1: I have a GPS in my car, and it's like
Speaker 1: I don't know how to get places because I usually
Speaker 1: just let it take me. It's the world. The world's
Speaker 1: getting too easy, and when it all goes down like
Speaker 1: Walking Dead style, We're all gonna be really screwed. It's
Speaker 1: the people that remained think it's down like that. Of
Speaker 1: course I love those shows because I would love for
Speaker 1: the world to end while I'm on it. Are you
Speaker 1: one of those people? I didn't see a bumper stick
Speaker 1: around your car down there? Zombie like zombie? Nope? All
Speaker 1: I think this is what I hope. I hope the
Speaker 1: world ends while I'm here. Why because think about how
Speaker 1: many Yeah, it would be awesome. No, think about how
Speaker 1: lucky you would be it's like palm trees and sunshine
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and that's cool and you're gonna
Speaker 1: to experience that right now. But think about how many
Speaker 1: people did not get to experience into the world. All
Speaker 1: the people didn't get to experience that. You get to
Speaker 1: experience the final We're gonna die anyway, Like we're just
Speaker 1: a bullying in the earth time just I mean not
Speaker 1: even a blink. What it's like this goodbye in that
Speaker 1: one blink you get lucky enough in that one blink
Speaker 1: of a twenty four hour cycle. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I want to see that, Like already I'm paranoid right now,
Speaker 1: I can't find my wallet. It's the challenge I thought of,
Speaker 1: like the world ending is is that that does lots
Speaker 1: to me. I'm fascinated annoying, where like I don't want
Speaker 1: that's that's that is the thing to her to have
Speaker 1: a full, beautiful life that she hasn't had yet. So
Speaker 1: but think about the real competition that it is. Think
Speaker 1: about the competition to be just to live, like I
Speaker 1: live for competition all sorts, like oh I love it,
Speaker 1: Like that's the ultimate competition, the struggle for life against
Speaker 1: everyone all the time, and I would love to be
Speaker 1: a part of it. So you want to be a
Speaker 1: part of like last Man Standing of life. If it's
Speaker 1: a game show, I'm like, who cares? I mean, I'd
Speaker 1: like to win it, like to win the extra money.
Speaker 1: They'll be fine. You want to be the last guy
Speaker 1: on earth? I want to be one of the guys
Speaker 1: running a village. It's like dominant eating Really. Oh that
Speaker 1: that thrills me. I mean, I get I like that
Speaker 1: you're honest about that. I would love it. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I've never thought of it that way. If I have
Speaker 1: to I eat, I eat a human in a second.
Speaker 1: I just know that I want to win, and I
Speaker 1: want to win everything that I do. And that's the
Speaker 1: ultimate no no, But that's the ultimate competition. We're basically animals.
Speaker 1: We've been were domesticated very much. So imagine we're not anymore.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, GPS, no cell phone, it's off,
Speaker 1: no power. Can you imagine what we would turn into animals? Again?
Speaker 1: We turn into dogs and here we go, who's the
Speaker 1: strongest and smartest dog. I might not be the strongest,
Speaker 1: but let's see how smart I really am? Oh man,
Speaker 1: I would love it. I've had many conversations about this.
Speaker 1: That's that's like my fantasy is the end of the
Speaker 1: world and I'm here because we have different fantasies. Man,
Speaker 1: we do. We're messed up in different ways. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: drinking amano as water because I didn't get anything. Do
Speaker 1: you mind telling me a little bit of like amino
Speaker 1: acids for a second. Yeah, because I don't sleep well.
Speaker 1: They help with sleeping. They Yeah. Basically from what I've
Speaker 1: learned and listen, every single fitness person I've ever met
Speaker 1: in my life has different theories on every single thing.
Speaker 1: You kind of collect what you believe and you kind
Speaker 1: of read science a bit and didn't do what work
Speaker 1: you and you find what works with your body. It's
Speaker 1: also with people and weight and muscle. Everybody's different. There
Speaker 1: just isn't an answer to how to get skinny or
Speaker 1: how to get but what what does amino acids do? Really?
Speaker 1: As opposed to like I guess, you're depleting them while
Speaker 1: you're working out, so you're just adding them back into
Speaker 1: your system basically, and it's nothing where it's making me
Speaker 1: any better. It's just trying to help all the suck
Speaker 1: because it's I suck. Because I don't sleep. I feel
Speaker 1: like you need sleep. Man. It's the single most important thing.
Speaker 1: Like it literally is more than working out in order.
Speaker 1: It's sleep, eating good and working out. How many hours
Speaker 1: of sleep you get heda you think like it'll be
Speaker 1: this is my issue. Tell me be in bed tonight.
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of riding my second book, so
Speaker 1: I'll have to write. And this is one of the
Speaker 1: Bobby Cast. It takes my days and makes them later.
Speaker 1: So where I would probably start writing right now and
Speaker 1: write for ninety minutes of two hours, I won't start
Speaker 1: until seven. So I'll probably right till nine, work on
Speaker 1: this show till ten thirty, a late night, fall asleep
Speaker 1: round eleven, get up at three and so, and then
Speaker 1: you run all day and then uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: go all day on a normal night, try to be
Speaker 1: in bed by eight. But and then on the weekends
Speaker 1: it throws me. I tore every weekend. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stand up now. And so I I go to I'm
Speaker 1: the Saturday night in town oddly at the wild West
Speaker 1: Comedy Festival. Be here unfortunately the only time I don't know,
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't expect anybody to. You guys, gotta work.
Speaker 1: I'll be there. I've told you that before. I love comedy, um,
Speaker 1: but then to every weekend, so I'm up till one
Speaker 1: two am on the weekends, so I never My schedule
Speaker 1: is never the same. I don't care about me. Why
Speaker 1: I'm talking about me? What do you do for fun? Man? Now?
Speaker 1: I don't you know? I'm staying in the shower. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you get a conste you have to talk
Speaker 1: about you don't? Yeah, I don't. I don't like talk
Speaker 1: about me really it, which is weird because I talk
Speaker 1: all the time, but I do it. I feel like
Speaker 1: a couple of I feel like you talk about yourself
Speaker 1: all the time, but you talk about it in a
Speaker 1: way I like it. That's exactly. I haven't liked to
Speaker 1: control compliments because I don't feel comfortable getting complimented. So
Speaker 1: I'm much better. Do you like the feeling of? And
Speaker 1: then we'll get off you talk to you? But do
Speaker 1: you like the feeling of? Because there is also a
Speaker 1: very satisfying feeling, which I think that's what us as
Speaker 1: entertainers like, of almost knowing that you could fail, but
Speaker 1: the feeling of not failing is so gratifying, like, for instance,
Speaker 1: like like, do you know when you walk out there
Speaker 1: in any crowd you're gonna do you know that you're
Speaker 1: gonna crush it? Are you? Like there's a chance that
Speaker 1: they might not like my jokes? But I think by
Speaker 1: going i'm your competitor. You said, I'm gonna go into
Speaker 1: it thinking I'm gonna crush this audience. But like, does
Speaker 1: it make you uncomfortable if it like if you're out
Speaker 1: there and it's not. If I'm not uncomfortable, it's not
Speaker 1: fun to me exactly. So I go out and what
Speaker 1: I do, and what I've been doing is working this material.
Speaker 1: And the thing about stand up is you go out.
Speaker 1: You I can't sit and practice it in my room.
Speaker 1: It's like not like playing guitar. If I'm gonna write
Speaker 1: a funny song, I play a funny song, I practice it.
Speaker 1: You know, fcg you know, do my little chords, play
Speaker 1: a little whatever. You have to go out and do
Speaker 1: jokes in front of people, and you have to fail
Speaker 1: a few times before it works. So if I'm not
Speaker 1: in every set, I've got some brand new stuff I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try. And I'm always a little bit nervous about
Speaker 1: that new stuff because I know some of it's going
Speaker 1: to bomb hard, and it's so exciting to me to fail.
Speaker 1: Oh I love it. I love it so much like it.
Speaker 1: That's the most thrilling thing to me is making yourself
Speaker 1: completely vulnerable on stage to bombing your brains out, Which
Speaker 1: is weird because it's such a juxtaposition of my life
Speaker 1: where I have I do not have the ability to
Speaker 1: be vulnerable to humans, but I I search for love
Speaker 1: on stage from a crowd that I know no one
Speaker 1: but in real alive. I for some reason, I've not
Speaker 1: been good at accepting love. So I think that's being
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to change it a bit. And it's
Speaker 1: tough because I don't think I don't do good at
Speaker 1: letting people in. Ever. Hey man a buddy of mine.
Speaker 1: He's a great songwriter. Speaking of songwriters, um, and his
Speaker 1: name is Jared Mullins. He wrote this new and this
Speaker 1: isn't a plug of my new single or anything, but
Speaker 1: he's a great guy and we were talking. We always
Speaker 1: talked about this, and I gotta He gave me this
Speaker 1: book that I'm gonna I gotta get the name of
Speaker 1: it and get it your way, just just you should
Speaker 1: read it. Though I can't think of the name off
Speaker 1: the top of my head. I started reading It's amazing,
Speaker 1: And that's why he read it, because he's like, man,
Speaker 1: it's a book about this guy as a comedian, and
Speaker 1: he hadn't because his life was all about being funny
Speaker 1: and and being that guy. He never found the other
Speaker 1: true side of who he was because he felt like
Speaker 1: he was always a character. See, I feel the opposite.
Speaker 1: I became someone who was funny because I didn't have
Speaker 1: that other I didn't start out as the character. I
Speaker 1: couldn't find the other one. I couldn't find the other one.
Speaker 1: So I'm not a character. Well I'm not saying, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, but yeah, interesting wondering like what if you
Speaker 1: am I to someone else? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Not that it matters, but this is deep today. It's
Speaker 1: what we do. You do the same thing, Like why
Speaker 1: in the world do we try to get on and
Speaker 1: I get on the radio and try to do my
Speaker 1: little performance? Why do you get on stage? You do
Speaker 1: you performance? Like why would you do that? Why? What
Speaker 1: what are you seeking? Well? I was thinking about that
Speaker 1: a second ago. I was like, what made what made
Speaker 1: you like like yeah, I think everyone thinks like yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty funny or I'm humorous or something,
Speaker 1: but like, is it the challenge of it because you're
Speaker 1: being a competitor or like, are you Like I think
Speaker 1: I'm so funny. I can walk on stage and like
Speaker 1: make people laugh because I think I'm funny. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm I could be I could do
Speaker 1: that because I don't know if I'm but nobody until
Speaker 1: that you do it. And I sucked, and I love sucking,
Speaker 1: and you can you can isolight that clip if you want. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I love it was so thrilling to me to
Speaker 1: be bad at something and to why to myself grow
Speaker 1: and get better. And I guess that's cool. It's like
Speaker 1: the self fulfillment of getting better at something. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you it's the best, like going out and just bombing.
Speaker 1: Let's see, like five or six weeks ago, had a
Speaker 1: really bad show and I came off stage and I
Speaker 1: was just like, Oh, it feels so awful that it
Speaker 1: felt it felt so good? Well, can I ask you?
Speaker 1: I mean, probably the worst thing that anyone that's a
Speaker 1: stand up, because I have a few of my friends
Speaker 1: that here's the thing about me being a stand up,
Speaker 1: Like I don't even consider myself a real Do I
Speaker 1: go and do stop comedy? Actually? But do you like
Speaker 1: sit there and go so this guy like you're not
Speaker 1: telling jokes like that's more of life stuff. It's funny. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I write jokes like, but I don't. There are guys
Speaker 1: that picked their whole career and do that, do that.
Speaker 1: It would be like me consider myself a musician because
Speaker 1: I go play two thousand people a night for the
Speaker 1: raging idiots. I'm not a musician. I'm just an entertainer.
Speaker 1: Do I get up and play songs and dude? And
Speaker 1: then do I do I do stand up? Yeah? Do
Speaker 1: I do a radio shop? I'm not really great at
Speaker 1: any of them, but they're all challenging to me, and
Speaker 1: I love them. I'm a I'm a radio guy who
Speaker 1: also probably a TV guy too, I could say, but
Speaker 1: I'm not like there are real standing there are real
Speaker 1: stand ups. And I don't consider myself in that same
Speaker 1: vain because I haven't put in the hours of just
Speaker 1: going on the road for five nights a week and
Speaker 1: dirty clubs like I started in theaters. But's it, Let's
Speaker 1: see how good this goes for ten minutes and it
Speaker 1: sucked and that was it and they got better that's cool,
Speaker 1: and then didn't and you know, things miss and I
Speaker 1: love it when they don't. I love it when what
Speaker 1: was the weirdest show? Who was terrible? Was there anything bad?
Speaker 1: You think? Like? Did you like read? You like left?
Speaker 1: And you were like waiting for reviews to pop up?
Speaker 1: Or I do that. I don't worry about reviews because
Speaker 1: I feel like we're regardless, it's gonna be bad. I
Speaker 1: feel like everybody dislikes me, just generally in the world,
Speaker 1: and I have to convince every person to like me
Speaker 1: because everyone likes here. But this is how I feel
Speaker 1: that everyone dislikes me because I've grown up being different
Speaker 1: than everybody else. Was the poorest kid. I was a
Speaker 1: white kid in a black neighborhood. I was the dirty kid.
Speaker 1: I was the southern accident kid trying to be on
Speaker 1: the radio that you should have never been on pop stations.
Speaker 1: And I got a country and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I wasn't country enough, when I'd always been to country,
Speaker 1: and when a cowboy had I was. I've never ever
Speaker 1: been in a place where I've been the liked person,
Speaker 1: so I've always felt like the guy that's fighting. That's
Speaker 1: just punching underwater. And so like my whole life, and
Speaker 1: so it's built into me that nobody likes me ever,
Speaker 1: and so I have to convince people like one one one,
Speaker 1: And I know I walked a room and it's not true.
Speaker 1: And I know, like my brain says it's not true,
Speaker 1: but my heart says it is. I walked into the room.
Speaker 1: Everybody hates me and I have and I know that.
Speaker 1: Like when I say those words, it sounds stupid, logically stupid,
Speaker 1: but that's how I feel because it's just how it's
Speaker 1: been my whole life. They do. But I'm also nuts
Speaker 1: and I have. I know that, and that's okay, and
Speaker 1: that's that's okay. And so you know, I've been a
Speaker 1: lot of therapy and what therapy therapy had It made
Speaker 1: me least done that. Man, but I thought about it
Speaker 1: and it made me lest nuts. It's made me see
Speaker 1: that I'm nuts and use tools to go, oh, this
Speaker 1: is you being crazy right now, take a step back.
Speaker 1: Relationship right now. I have trouble sometimes because it's going
Speaker 1: great and it starts to be too good. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: something's gonna go wrong. I'm gonna kill it. I gotta
Speaker 1: kill this thing. And I go, whoa, you're an adult
Speaker 1: man now too. You're not nineteen anymore. So I say
Speaker 1: to myself, you have a great relationship with a great human.
Speaker 1: Don't have this up and after just pull back and
Speaker 1: look at it that way. But you should. I love therapy.
Speaker 1: I loved it. Excuse my interruptions, Like, you can get therapy.
Speaker 1: I remember, it's like therapy. Nobody from small talk, and
Speaker 1: I'll go to therapy. So I went therapy. I was like, whoa,
Speaker 1: I can tell somebody like my whatever and they don't
Speaker 1: really care, and they'll just give you an opinion with
Speaker 1: nothing like they don't care, they have they don't see
Speaker 1: you out later and they don't worry about your attitude.
Speaker 1: Six pm. Interesting. I was like, it's awesome. So I
Speaker 1: embraced it. But yeah, whatever, it's good to see you.
Speaker 1: I got Let me talk. Let me talk about sleep
Speaker 1: number for one second. So spring is in the air.
Speaker 1: It's spring cleaning time. And think about when you clean
Speaker 1: your house and you're scrubbing your baseboards and you're doing
Speaker 1: all this stuff around that you don't normally do. Think
Speaker 1: about your bed and where you spend a lot of
Speaker 1: your time, probably more than anywhere else except where your bed.
Speaker 1: And think about your pillows and your mattress. When's the
Speaker 1: last time that you replace that? You know you can
Speaker 1: wake up refreshed. And I always say my sleep number
Speaker 1: bed is probably ten feet from where I sit as
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Speaker 1: especially if you have to wake up early in the
Speaker 1: morning like me, three am comes and I'm happy to
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Speaker 1: And just know that I use it and I tell
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Speaker 1: and I have one upstairs here where the studio is,
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Speaker 1: So uh, like what is your deal? Like you're just
Speaker 1: not around as much anymore, dude, I gotta ask you that. Man.
Speaker 1: You guys have said that to me before, and I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, like like like I didn't know how
Speaker 1: to take that, not that you were saying it like maliciously,
Speaker 1: you were saying it honestly, but it like I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: really because like you think, like, dude, I've been working
Speaker 1: so like so hard and probably a lot like yourself,
Speaker 1: you know, I this is all outside of my little girl,
Speaker 1: which is the greatest thing that's ever happened me. Um,
Speaker 1: it's like all I have, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like every day I wake up, I'm like what can
Speaker 1: I do today? Like almost to a point where a
Speaker 1: lot like you were just saying, like, dude, I've got
Speaker 1: people that you know, that I work with every day,
Speaker 1: that I that I respect more than anything, But like
Speaker 1: unfortunately sometimes on their behalf, like they get like this
Speaker 1: side of me and it's like, so like what's next?
Speaker 1: Like I'm not. It's not that I'm not happy with
Speaker 1: what's what's going on right now, but I'm constantly looking
Speaker 1: for what I can be better at, Like what you
Speaker 1: were saying earlier. I think it's part of just being
Speaker 1: um competitive or whatnot. But that's all I do. And
Speaker 1: especially uh, ever since I got divorced, you know, like
Speaker 1: I don't have my little girl here anymore, and um
Speaker 1: she's in Florida, and and so I see as much
Speaker 1: as I can, but on this time off. Like, man,
Speaker 1: it's weird to wake up in my house every day,
Speaker 1: like if I'm not on the road and just go
Speaker 1: like what am I gonna do today? And most of
Speaker 1: the time I pick up my guitar and I'm writing
Speaker 1: something or I'm trying to create something, or I'm working
Speaker 1: with buddies on it. And so along with all that said,
Speaker 1: like it's really weird to think like how hard you
Speaker 1: can work and then be dating. Really and I have
Speaker 1: I been? Have I disappeared because it part of me
Speaker 1: feels like I'm just now getting back, Like I think
Speaker 1: when I went through all that, personally, I think, uh,
Speaker 1: I kind of took a little sabbatical, you know, a
Speaker 1: little bit but as far as like um on the
Speaker 1: radio or whatever, like it's something about the radio, because
Speaker 1: what I don't I don't hear them any songs in
Speaker 1: the radio. I want to talk a lot too. If
Speaker 1: a song plays, I'm not listening to it because the
Speaker 1: volume down, getting ready to whatever about to do. So
Speaker 1: to me, it's not even a radio thing. I just
Speaker 1: and it could have all been. I mean, you had
Speaker 1: a thousand things happening in your personal life and you
Speaker 1: got freaking divorce and your kid goes away, Like that's
Speaker 1: gotta be like your heart getting ripped out with your
Speaker 1: kids moving to three states down that it was like
Speaker 1: we was a text all the time, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden it was like I didn't if Jake, I
Speaker 1: don't gonna have never text anymore. I just figured, you
Speaker 1: know what, he's having a time whatever. Whatever he's happened
Speaker 1: in his personal life, it's happening, and I just you
Speaker 1: were just gone. So I apologize about that. I know
Speaker 1: it's not apology. That's why it asked where you been,
Speaker 1: like like in a good way, like what have you
Speaker 1: been up to? Like I I've been doing a lot, man,
Speaker 1: I I've got a lot going on. Car Frankly, I
Speaker 1: was with a management company for a lot of years
Speaker 1: ended up. Um we parted ways. We we still have
Speaker 1: great relationship, but I had like bigger aspirations as far
Speaker 1: as branching out. I love country music at the core
Speaker 1: of it. I love it so much, and I love
Speaker 1: um traditional country music. But I still have this longing
Speaker 1: to want to always do more. And uh, I love
Speaker 1: the entertainment side of things. I've always I've always done
Speaker 1: things like hosting and that. So I'm working on a
Speaker 1: television deal right now. UM that I've got going on.
Speaker 1: I have a whiskey company that we've talked about before
Speaker 1: that takes up a lot of my time as far
Speaker 1: as just help promoting this brand that's really taken off
Speaker 1: to the point where we've now acquired h Our Vodka Company.
Speaker 1: Then both of them on their in their own right
Speaker 1: are doing really really well. And what's weird is is
Speaker 1: because being a guy that like play guitar and a
Speaker 1: barstool cover songs anything from swee Holm Alabama to Shanondola
Speaker 1: or whatever, I didn't and when I dropped out to
Speaker 1: move to Nashville, I never thought that I would be
Speaker 1: Um the CEO of of a company and they have
Speaker 1: a lot of people working for me, a lot of
Speaker 1: and the more as it started. As much as I
Speaker 1: sometimes try to play off, maybe like I'm just laid
Speaker 1: back Florida guy just just got bare feet because the
Speaker 1: beach all the time, man like as a man, a
Speaker 1: thirty five year old man, like I'm sometimes like, man,
Speaker 1: I got so much going on, like I'm exhausted. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: still trying to find happiness in like something or someone
Speaker 1: out there that it's bigger than this day to day
Speaker 1: life of singing songs. Is that wonder with that? And
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're still dating the same girl
Speaker 1: explaining some girl, Yeah, I've been dating a girl for
Speaker 1: a while, So I gotta wonder, like after a divorce,
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you afters and and if I
Speaker 1: have a friend or I have a co worker and
Speaker 1: they lie to me, I'm like, man, like I'm out
Speaker 1: for for it's hard for me to come back, Like
Speaker 1: it's a tough one after you get out of a marriage.
Speaker 1: I've never been married. So you're talking to somebody who
Speaker 1: don't know, how did you get back into another something
Speaker 1: with someone at all? One year, three year, seven years,
Speaker 1: like yeah, I just think you feel it, you know,
Speaker 1: Like for instance, I thought I thought of that, and
Speaker 1: I did think of that when I got divorced um.
Speaker 1: But my dad was married um at an early age
Speaker 1: and had my older brother and sister half brother and
Speaker 1: sister from a previous marriage. But if he hadn't have
Speaker 1: found it again, or if there's no such thing as
Speaker 1: finding love again, and he would have never met my mom,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't even be in this chair right here.
Speaker 1: So I found a lot of solstice or whatever you
Speaker 1: wanna call it in knowing that like love is there,
Speaker 1: don't matter what, just about finding it in the right
Speaker 1: way and not looking for it, Like are you sure?
Speaker 1: I'm not? I don't even know about love, Like I
Speaker 1: don't even know about it, Like I don't even know
Speaker 1: if it's a fairy tale. People just say, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm in a great relationship right now, best ever been in.
Speaker 1: Right Well what what like? Are you happy? That's the
Speaker 1: main word, Like, as a human being sitting in that
Speaker 1: chair right now, are you are you happy? That's what
Speaker 1: all that matters. I think I don't I'm happy. I'm happy,
Speaker 1: Like I feel good about saying that, Like I might
Speaker 1: not have everything in order. I might not have everything
Speaker 1: that like I wish was like the way it should be,
Speaker 1: which frustrates me. But like as I sit here, like
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of blessings in my life, Like
Speaker 1: I'm happy man, Like I'm a happy dude. So that's
Speaker 1: why I ask you, like, I hope you're happy, because
Speaker 1: like we're pretty lucky, man. But since I got here,
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm lucky. Why I don't think luck happens.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think everything that I think you
Speaker 1: you work your way into luck. I don't believe in luck, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just don't believe in luck, right, I look, it's
Speaker 1: like it's not necessary you gotta believe in I mean,
Speaker 1: you think you work yourself into a heads or tails,
Speaker 1: like someone's like this piece of candy flip enough coins
Speaker 1: and you sit there and grind it out to enough
Speaker 1: coin flips and actually you're gonna hit your heads sometimes
Speaker 1: you hit that first one. It's about creating your own opportunities.
Speaker 1: I think that I'm not understanding what I have in life,
Speaker 1: which it makes me happy, like I wasn't like and
Speaker 1: I'm not not thinking I'll be honest, like I didn't
Speaker 1: work myself into like being uh a dad, Like I
Speaker 1: got lucky that I had this little girl that like
Speaker 1: changed my life, Like I'm lucky that I was born
Speaker 1: in It happens to a lot of people, Like I
Speaker 1: don't luck you win the lottery even then you had
Speaker 1: to go buy the freaking ticket you had to go
Speaker 1: with that certain time. I don't know, you just I
Speaker 1: just you didn't plan that out. You didn't work so
Speaker 1: hard to find out what time you need to be
Speaker 1: there at the time to buy the ticket. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just luck. Dude, I'm not gonna un luck. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna convince me of luck. All right, I'm convinced
Speaker 1: you work for everything and that your opportunity to happen
Speaker 1: because of the work you put in. Well, I'll tell you, dude,
Speaker 1: I've been really, really successful in my life, and a
Speaker 1: lot of it is because, yeah, I worked at it,
Speaker 1: but a lot of it is because I was really
Speaker 1: lucky to be there to the right time, worked and
Speaker 1: got in the right spot. This is different philosophies because
Speaker 1: I'm the minority philosophy on this, and I understand that
Speaker 1: that's probably why I'm miserable. So you're not happy. You
Speaker 1: just said miserable. You don't have to finished many percentage
Speaker 1: of the time I've started to find I try to
Speaker 1: find bits of happiness and take those bits and really go, man,
Speaker 1: it's awesome right now before I let it consume me again.
Speaker 1: And so I'm always fighting get to the next island
Speaker 1: of this is cool for a second. So are you
Speaker 1: a glass half empty or half full kind of guy?
Speaker 1: I'm I don't. I want the glass to stay together
Speaker 1: and not break. Yeah, that's it. I don't care. I'm
Speaker 1: to waters in there like I want to keep what
Speaker 1: I got because I don't think it's it's such just
Speaker 1: like it would work on my job. But I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna last. I don't think this is gonna last.
Speaker 1: You think I don't. I just don't. So everything that
Speaker 1: I have, I put it all into it, and I
Speaker 1: go save all the money again, do everything again, because
Speaker 1: it isn't gonna last forever. And when it's not, you
Speaker 1: know it's not, then it doesn't. I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: a pessimist, though, I believe you can work and achieve whatever.
Speaker 1: If it's physically possible, you can do it. You can't
Speaker 1: talk a basketball from four ft one. So I say,
Speaker 1: physically possible, you can't run up. There are people that
Speaker 1: are born, so let's remove that part of it. But
Speaker 1: if it's if it's physically possible, I believe you can
Speaker 1: work and will your way to it, regardless of what
Speaker 1: it is. I think if I want to be the
Speaker 1: president United States, I could be the president United States.
Speaker 1: I'm a kid too, grew up in a town of
Speaker 1: seven hundred people in Mountain Pine, Arkansas. No my family
Speaker 1: graduate High school, Mchlas College. But I could be the
Speaker 1: president United States. I think you can if you wanted that.
Speaker 1: It may take me a long time. You may take
Speaker 1: me thirty or forty years, but I think I could
Speaker 1: do it. I think anybody can. Yeah, that's yeah, that's
Speaker 1: like dream big. You know. I believe in that philosophy,
Speaker 1: and I believe that you working work to do mostly anything.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. There's things against you as
Speaker 1: a human. It's just will make it physically impossible. Well
Speaker 1: I said physical that was my only rule. But outside
Speaker 1: of that, I believe you can do anything. I think
Speaker 1: people can, and they underestimate themselves so much like people
Speaker 1: go I was, you know, this is my area code
Speaker 1: is my zip code. This is what I was told
Speaker 1: I need to do. There's there are no rules. There
Speaker 1: just aren't rules in life. Even in music, there aren't rules.
Speaker 1: And you know who comes along. It makes a difference
Speaker 1: to people that goes that these aren't rules. Let me
Speaker 1: go do it this way, and most of them fail.
Speaker 1: But the ones that hit boom, they are home run hitters.
Speaker 1: They make the new rules for everybody else. And let's
Speaker 1: say you fail. Let's say you fail, you fell miserably, Okay,
Speaker 1: come back again, swing again, keep swinging until you hit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and don't stop swinging until you hit. Eventually you can't hit,
Speaker 1: that's why I believe. And once you hit, you're probably
Speaker 1: gonna strike out again. That's how you strike out is
Speaker 1: because you have the nuts to go and try exactly.
Speaker 1: So I love anyway. I love to fail. That's like
Speaker 1: I love it. It's not fun right when it's happening,
Speaker 1: but it's awesome too succeed a loss. But that's why
Speaker 1: I was like, like, I was, like, where you been?
Speaker 1: It's so I've been just yeah, because your Fay keeping
Speaker 1: that glass, your famious Jake going though, so people expect
Speaker 1: famish Chack going to be out being famishack going, and
Speaker 1: so I got a lot of stuff that's not famish,
Speaker 1: take going stuff like you're running, you're doing business stuff. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: like you said, I mean I think a lot of it.
Speaker 1: Like you said, there, it's like keeping the glass together.
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of stuff going on, which keeps
Speaker 1: me making sure I'm one of these guys that can't
Speaker 1: just sit back and do that. Well that's cool, that's happening.
Speaker 1: I'm always wanting to be involved in it, and so
Speaker 1: it's trying to make sure that I'm that I'm in
Speaker 1: all places while still compartmentalizing each one in order to
Speaker 1: have a day to day life. Is is interesting because
Speaker 1: I didn't getting back to I said, like, I didn't
Speaker 1: learn that in school as like a business guy or something.
Speaker 1: I've just kind of had to learn this over the years.
Speaker 1: So I've been, uh doing that. I've been making some
Speaker 1: new music. I, um, what if that you making new music? Like,
Speaker 1: are you working on another record? Um? Not necessarily, I
Speaker 1: don't think. I'm just I had this idea based off
Speaker 1: of the way that I've I've seen music being consumed
Speaker 1: these days that um, people, when you're lucky enough use
Speaker 1: that word luck or worked hard enough to the point
Speaker 1: where people are admiring what you're doing, it's important to
Speaker 1: continue to feed them. And I feel that in a
Speaker 1: way that the music business UM can sometimes be antiquated
Speaker 1: in the way that they're let they're allowing the music
Speaker 1: to come out, especially country music. It's the worst format ever.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, for for music and for for the way
Speaker 1: as fast as people are able to concern it. So
Speaker 1: I I'm been doing all I can for people out
Speaker 1: there that love my music to give them as much
Speaker 1: as I can, you know. And and uh, if I
Speaker 1: have a song or I have an idea of something
Speaker 1: I wanted to, I don't think just because I have
Speaker 1: a single on the radio. My theory is this, it
Speaker 1: is because there's a song on the radio that's that's
Speaker 1: being pushed by the label, and we're selling the album
Speaker 1: that by putting out another song on iTunes or out
Speaker 1: there on sound whatever, giving people something else to chew
Speaker 1: on UM only makes some like this a little bit
Speaker 1: more because it's something else that makes this more viable.
Speaker 1: And uh, instead of the thought that this is cannibalizing
Speaker 1: this does that make sense? Like future at least an album?
Speaker 1: So here's a good example of what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I agree with you completely, and
Speaker 1: I think the putting out twelve songs that once album
Speaker 1: idea is awful now I think it's I mean, look
Speaker 1: at look what what John Are did. First of all,
Speaker 1: I thought it was brilliant. We had time to do
Speaker 1: with the two different waves of three and but we
Speaker 1: had time with each of them. But in our formats,
Speaker 1: like you have to put out a hard c D
Speaker 1: because it still hard, but we got about the hard
Speaker 1: album and twelve at once, like having two quarterbacks. Even
Speaker 1: if you got two great quarterbacks, you got a bunch
Speaker 1: of great songs. People aren't really going to get to
Speaker 1: love all of them because it's all at once, always
Speaker 1: compared to like there's always three times a day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, but there's a lot about it too that's
Speaker 1: always sketchy, because there's a lot about I think one
Speaker 1: reason music has become somewhat disposable sometimes and I think
Speaker 1: you probably feel this way, Like I love music, I'll
Speaker 1: fall in love with music some certain new song or something,
Speaker 1: and then because music is so accessible now and iTunes
Speaker 1: or Spotify or whatever'll have the newest latest what's happening,
Speaker 1: like I'll listen to that one day and no matter
Speaker 1: and don't get me wrong, what's great will always be great.
Speaker 1: But sometimes because of it, there's so much distraction that
Speaker 1: it's hard to continually focus back to one. And I
Speaker 1: think maybe that's why to like a lot of sales
Speaker 1: have declined a little bit, because the more you're giving people,
Speaker 1: the more that they can't just be focused on that
Speaker 1: one album or that one thing and hope for the
Speaker 1: next thing. I have a niche theory when it comes
Speaker 1: to people trying to make it in the creative world.
Speaker 1: Now everybody wants to be super famous, right everybody. I
Speaker 1: want to be super famous. I want to have everybody
Speaker 1: loved me. I want to hit a hundred percent of
Speaker 1: the historical That's virtually impossible now it's and it's getting
Speaker 1: even more impossible because of the distractions. And it's not
Speaker 1: they're not distractions. They're just a part of the world
Speaker 1: now right there. It's just every day we think their
Speaker 1: distractions because we're our thirties and we didn't have them
Speaker 1: ten years ago. To someone who's eighteen, not distractions, it's
Speaker 1: every day. So you can get more out of focusing
Speaker 1: on your eight percent and super serving them. Then you
Speaker 1: can get out of trying to give a hundred percent
Speaker 1: and be super famous. And if you focus on your
Speaker 1: eight to ten percent and give them exactly what they want,
Speaker 1: you were going to be so much more successful than
Speaker 1: if you give a hundred percent. This little a little bite.
Speaker 1: You gotta get in where you fit in and hit
Speaker 1: it and stay true to whoever you are. Well, it's
Speaker 1: it's funny you say that, because that's really what I
Speaker 1: what I've been doing, um with my music. I mean,
Speaker 1: these songs that I've been working on. I finally realize
Speaker 1: it's funny. Um. I released my last single that was
Speaker 1: on the radios called if He Ain't Gonna Love You.
Speaker 1: It had Chris Stapleton on it, uh singing backgrounds, and
Speaker 1: uh it was something that I really loved. I love
Speaker 1: that song. Um, but I think it's so different from
Speaker 1: like this coastal field that people have come to enjoy
Speaker 1: for me. Uh, there it is you here Christens back. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I think even label wise people that are behind me
Speaker 1: at the time, like you know, they'd be lying or
Speaker 1: any of us be lying to say that, you know,
Speaker 1: as well as Chris is doing right now, as well
Speaker 1: as we've known at greatest singers he is for as
Speaker 1: long as we have. It would be great to have
Speaker 1: him on a song with us and put it out,
Speaker 1: but with as great as his voice is, as great
Speaker 1: as that song might be, Um, it's not really what
Speaker 1: people see me for and see me as, and I
Speaker 1: think it's an artist for the For a long time now,
Speaker 1: I've I've honestly battled like what I really am and
Speaker 1: kind of what I want to be and and trying
Speaker 1: to do all of it as opposed to do what
Speaker 1: you just said, doing what I'm good at and just
Speaker 1: and and giving that to the people that love it
Speaker 1: instead of trying to appease to everyone. And so I've
Speaker 1: even noticed it with my show, the way that are
Speaker 1: like it's so it's started to get so much more
Speaker 1: honed back into the way that I grew up being
Speaker 1: from Florida. The songs. I loved being in a riverside
Speaker 1: cafe and seeing this band called the land Sharks come
Speaker 1: play when I was a kid, Like they played Jimmy
Speaker 1: Buffett songs and it was like really kind of cool
Speaker 1: at reggae field mixed with all it was just it
Speaker 1: was great. And I've noticed that now that my show
Speaker 1: and my set and my songs, this new single good company,
Speaker 1: like everything feel is like me, which makes me happier.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm trying to do something that's
Speaker 1: not comfortable. I'm gonna play some of this. This is
Speaker 1: a good company here happy. But I hear that, did
Speaker 1: you let somebody talk you out of being you? Um? No?
Speaker 1: You know what I can honestly say, and I'm not
Speaker 1: one of the I love people's opinions. I respect everyone
Speaker 1: I work with and always have. Um that that just
Speaker 1: factually can't be true. You can't respect everybody work with
Speaker 1: and you always have. I respect their opinions. I don't
Speaker 1: have to say I respect them as a person and
Speaker 1: some of the things they may have done before. But like,
Speaker 1: I respect their opinion. I think I think it's in
Speaker 1: order to do good business, and and that's what this
Speaker 1: is at the end of the day. I mean, I
Speaker 1: can sit there and say, oh, I'm an orders, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it my way, it's only my way or whatever,
Speaker 1: but that'd be bad business, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: for me, So in order for me to do good
Speaker 1: business with people that I'm in business with, I respect
Speaker 1: their opinion and so yeah, there were times where their
Speaker 1: their opinions were different than mine. Um. And then there
Speaker 1: were times that mine was different than theirs. And I
Speaker 1: was wrong. I mean there were times I was wrong.
Speaker 1: Like I released Days of Gold as a single, UM
Speaker 1: and it went it It went like fifteen. And this
Speaker 1: was after I had like four straight number ones in
Speaker 1: a row. UM. And I think everyone puts so much
Speaker 1: emphasis on a song going to number one as opposed
Speaker 1: to it just being a song people like and and
Speaker 1: and you can get so consumed in this town of
Speaker 1: where a song went and if it's not doing well.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, people out there they don't care. They just
Speaker 1: like they just like it. They they don't care about
Speaker 1: the bubble. It's like people in Nashville in the music
Speaker 1: industries like high school. Yeah, I mean it's like a
Speaker 1: high school and it's and you have the same little
Speaker 1: club of you got the jocks and the cool people
Speaker 1: and the nerds and the Yeah you're right, it's it's
Speaker 1: and there's the same gossip. I mean. But it's like
Speaker 1: every workplace. We think we're getting older and more mature,
Speaker 1: we really don't. Our problems just become different. We're all
Speaker 1: the same immature people. Now we just got different bills
Speaker 1: to pay. Yeah, I still feel like I'm constantly every
Speaker 1: day like working just to better myself. When you ask
Speaker 1: what I've been doing, and we've been chatting about a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff that kind of leads us back to this,
Speaker 1: like I've been doing. It's just trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how to be a better mean dude every day, honest
Speaker 1: to God, because I've I've I've found myself in times
Speaker 1: where like I'm like, man, I'm not heading in the
Speaker 1: right direction, and I got to redirect myself. And sometimes
Speaker 1: that sometimes that transcends into my music or the songs
Speaker 1: I'm writing, or the decisions I'm making. You know, when
Speaker 1: you're going through the divorce, do you ever have a
Speaker 1: personal spot where you're like, God, this, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is really awful. Yeah, And I don't know about this. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know what's weird is is like while I was
Speaker 1: going through the my divorce, Um, they were down in Florida,
Speaker 1: and uh, I have this little townhouse that uh that
Speaker 1: I have over in Bellevue and where my house at
Speaker 1: the time was getting renovated because we were I was
Speaker 1: renovating it because we bought this house. I loved it
Speaker 1: and wanted to renovate it so for my family, you know,
Speaker 1: to be there. And when they left, I was like
Speaker 1: under renovation. So I'd have anywhere to go, and I'd
Speaker 1: come home off the road and I was staying at
Speaker 1: this townhouse and that townhouse I I've owned since I
Speaker 1: was a single bachelor and lived there by myself, and
Speaker 1: like it was weird because I remember those days of
Speaker 1: like being twenty five and twenty six and whatever and
Speaker 1: being in that townhouse and like where I was at
Speaker 1: that point in my life. And when I left there
Speaker 1: and got this beautiful home with you know, a gate
Speaker 1: and like everything that like a secluded place for me
Speaker 1: and my family, I thought that was it, Like That's
Speaker 1: how it always would be. And so when there were
Speaker 1: nights where I'd wake up or be by myself in
Speaker 1: this townhouse in Bellevue, h literally there's no furniture in it.
Speaker 1: It's completely empty, and I had to blow up air
Speaker 1: mattress and some weed, and like I was disappointed man
Speaker 1: in myself, Like not so much on the weed thing,
Speaker 1: but I was just like I just would like bet
Speaker 1: not disappoint out, just like damn, Like did I what
Speaker 1: did I do to like be sitting here by myself
Speaker 1: right now, Like everybody thinks like like you just said,
Speaker 1: you just said a second AGirl, like you're superstar jakeoh Man,
Speaker 1: are you supposed to be doing with superstar Jaco Is.
Speaker 1: Then I come home off the road, like literally, like
Speaker 1: the night before I would be just playing some huge
Speaker 1: festival or something. We're thousands of people and like they're
Speaker 1: screaming and yelling my songs and trying to get backstage
Speaker 1: like the thing that everyone And then I would get
Speaker 1: home the next day and be so lonely and be
Speaker 1: by myself in this town house like with a no
Speaker 1: ship an air mattress that I would like I had
Speaker 1: a hole in it that I would like tape with
Speaker 1: some duct tape each night so the air wouldn't come out,
Speaker 1: and I would just like kind of figure like I
Speaker 1: feel like I gotta ride this out and see where
Speaker 1: it goes. Like you know, I was working on things, obviously,
Speaker 1: but that was a little that was a low point
Speaker 1: for me, like where and then it was weird. I
Speaker 1: did my daughter for a week or two uh or
Speaker 1: four days and then give her back to her mom,
Speaker 1: and like it would be the highest high of having her,
Speaker 1: and then she leave and it was back to like
Speaker 1: whoa like am I back to like a single dude again,
Speaker 1: like trying to like do I need to go to
Speaker 1: a bar or something like meet a girl? Like where
Speaker 1: can I meet a girl? Because she doesn't care who
Speaker 1: I am? Like gott to be impossible. Yeah, at this point,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you do it. How do you
Speaker 1: meet a girl that doesn't care who you are? I
Speaker 1: met a girl. I think that, well, it doesn't care
Speaker 1: who I am. You know, I need to know what
Speaker 1: field ten so I can make a correct judgment on this.
Speaker 1: It's a totally unfair judgment. But I didn't know what
Speaker 1: filled too is in Uh, she is in the home furnishing,
Speaker 1: she cares who you are? Then you think so yeah,
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's a bad thing, but if
Speaker 1: at first it's so shining and it's like, look, I
Speaker 1: think she would be the first. I mean, we've dated
Speaker 1: for a little while now, you know. And this is
Speaker 1: actually the first time I've ever said on air on
Speaker 1: anything that I've been dating. I might have told you
Speaker 1: one time, and I've told you, but never anyone else
Speaker 1: iver really talked about it. But but um, I'm I'm happy,
Speaker 1: like when I said I was happy earlier. Like I
Speaker 1: think this is a derivative of it. Um is having
Speaker 1: her her name is Erica um in my life like
Speaker 1: she uh, she really likes like, Um, she likes me
Speaker 1: for me, honest, I can sense it, like I'm I'm
Speaker 1: good and I'm like you rather like I'm always looking
Speaker 1: for ways of like Nope, this is like going to right,
Speaker 1: I gotta get away from this, and especially coming from
Speaker 1: what I came from and having a relationship just explode,
Speaker 1: like why would I ever want to do that again? Um?
Speaker 1: But I think there are certain times where you find
Speaker 1: yourself like and it's not a lonely thing. It's not
Speaker 1: because I need like wanted someone in my life. I
Speaker 1: just kind of like drew me in. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of normalcy to her, which I love. Is she's
Speaker 1: so confident. Yeah, like she she has to be. She's Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's very confident, and uh, she's just a you know,
Speaker 1: she's a good girl. Like she's never one time ever
Speaker 1: like questioned me about you know what, why don't you
Speaker 1: call me last night? I know you're on the road,
Speaker 1: Why don't you call me? Like were you with people
Speaker 1: or what we're like. None of that, it was. She's
Speaker 1: just like, hey, call me whenever it's okay, are you
Speaker 1: honeymoon period? Still like not at all? That's cool? Is
Speaker 1: she still romanticized by the Jaco went on stage? Cool
Speaker 1: guy artist? Um, she's really proud of me, Like I
Speaker 1: think she's proud of me because she's been around me
Speaker 1: long enough now to know that, like, who I am
Speaker 1: on stage is not the exact same person off stage.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a version of you. It's a version
Speaker 1: of me, And I'm proud of that because some people
Speaker 1: I think they can be something on stage and then
Speaker 1: be totally something different offstage. Like my I I love
Speaker 1: being the person that is able to bring happiness to people.
Speaker 1: I love that. There's no like. I love it, and
Speaker 1: it like hurts me inside sometimes when I've said things
Speaker 1: I don't mean to someone that hurt their feelings, because
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, that's the greatest feeling for me is
Speaker 1: knowing that makes someone happy. The worst feeling for me
Speaker 1: is knowing that I hurt their feelings or I did
Speaker 1: something just because I can be arrogant sometimes or I
Speaker 1: can be whatever. But her, like she's always seen both
Speaker 1: sides that she's seen both sides of me, and and
Speaker 1: I admire the fact that she uh has letting me
Speaker 1: be me and while I'm still figuring out how to
Speaker 1: be a better version of that person, she likes interesting.
Speaker 1: I kind of believe you. Yeah, it's it's tough. You
Speaker 1: have to understand. It's tough for me to sit and
Speaker 1: go huh, because I would think someone would need to
Speaker 1: have an understanding job, meaning they understand what you do.
Speaker 1: To fully understand what you do that makes sense, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like they need to understand that there's all this awesome stuff,
Speaker 1: but there's also a lot of crappy stuff that comes
Speaker 1: with it, and just not see that. Right now, you
Speaker 1: make a good living and you're kind of famous and
Speaker 1: that's cool. Where if someone who kind, for example, like
Speaker 1: my girlfriend, she's an artist and she I mean, like
Speaker 1: I see her grind and she sees me wake up
Speaker 1: at three in the morning, and it's it's it's tough,
Speaker 1: and I always want not her. It's just one of them.
Speaker 1: But I would always wonder like why did I would
Speaker 1: always feel like nobody, why would anyone want to date
Speaker 1: me unless they wanted a date? Yeah, yeah, I know
Speaker 1: what you're saying I feel that way, and you're like
Speaker 1: three times, you're like way better looking than me, taller,
Speaker 1: you got more money. You know, there's all these things. No,
Speaker 1: I just think I'll be honest, I've had my share
Speaker 1: of like the whole careless side of dating and not
Speaker 1: carrying and stuff like that. And then I really get
Speaker 1: like I still look like and I would I feel
Speaker 1: okay saying this, but like I still of love my
Speaker 1: my ex wife, Like I don't have feelings for her
Speaker 1: like the love of life, but I have I have
Speaker 1: this love in my heart for her as the mother
Speaker 1: of my child. Um, but I also still like to
Speaker 1: like I've moved on, and I feel really good about
Speaker 1: caring for someone else in that way too, Like it
Speaker 1: makes me feel good to know that someone relies on
Speaker 1: me and like if they need me, like I would
Speaker 1: be there for them. And uh, I like like it
Speaker 1: kind of gets back to making someone happy to like
Speaker 1: I just love the ability to fulfill someone's need and
Speaker 1: desire for whatever that may be. And uh and and
Speaker 1: it fulfills me. You know. So you're looking at you
Speaker 1: like very deep. No, I'm listening to your words, that's why. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I'm genuinely listening and taking it in here. Well,
Speaker 1: I've seen my parents. They've been married for thirty seven years,
Speaker 1: and I remember when I was a kid man my dad,
Speaker 1: who loves my mom more than anything. But like I
Speaker 1: see where I get this like like just angst sometimes
Speaker 1: and like because my dad was the same way, and
Speaker 1: he would come home and he'd be like, Mitzi, you know,
Speaker 1: why did you spend this amount of money at the
Speaker 1: grocery store? You know, And like he could have come
Speaker 1: home and been like, hey, guys, how are you you know,
Speaker 1: but like that wasn't my dad's demeanor, Like he had
Speaker 1: probably got a high bill or something at the office.
Speaker 1: And after working all day, I came home and that's
Speaker 1: how we'd start the day after my mom had been
Speaker 1: cooking dinner all like half the night, because we'd have
Speaker 1: dinner every night around the table. Like I was lucky man,
Speaker 1: using the word lucky. And I feel that way, like
Speaker 1: I was likely to be born into a family where
Speaker 1: I could sit there at night with my twin brother
Speaker 1: and my mom and dad and talk about life and
Speaker 1: what we did at school and stuff. But I get
Speaker 1: a lot of that from my dad, of like where
Speaker 1: he just gets this like what you know, my mom
Speaker 1: be like, I had to buy a groceries to cook
Speaker 1: this food that we're gonna eat right now that I've
Speaker 1: been making for you all day. And then so there's
Speaker 1: like this and my mom always said in relationships, it's
Speaker 1: not fifty fifty, Like relationships are not fifty fifty. She's like,
Speaker 1: there were days where your dad gave literally two and
Speaker 1: I have to give N's interesting, and that's true. I
Speaker 1: never thought of it like that. You're that's absolutely right.
Speaker 1: And she's like the effort. And then she's like, then
Speaker 1: there's days where I give of care and your dad
Speaker 1: had to get he knew it, and he had to
Speaker 1: give me eighty. She's like it was finding that balance.
Speaker 1: And and and they're right because I watched my parents
Speaker 1: and they love each other more than anything, but I've
Speaker 1: watched them getting all out, like you know, matches of
Speaker 1: of not you know, disrespectful, but just yelling at each
Speaker 1: other like people do. And and and that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Like I've also learned too, and I'm feeling more comfortable
Speaker 1: in my life and career now talking about the reality
Speaker 1: of the things that happened, as opposed to trying to
Speaker 1: pretend like it's things aren't real, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's odd you mentioned the thing, because it's like
Speaker 1: I never thought of it like that. And it seems
Speaker 1: like every time I do want to, somebody says something
Speaker 1: and I'll give you an example coming for a second.
Speaker 1: But it's more like it is fifty over a relationship,
Speaker 1: but not over a day or a week or a month,
Speaker 1: because then maybe one day, maybe the next day, yeah,
Speaker 1: it may eighties, but it's not fifty. But in the
Speaker 1: end it kind of has to be over the long term.
Speaker 1: It just switches. It's like it watches its sum. It
Speaker 1: averages out. I guess is the way the wait just
Speaker 1: the averages out. It's pretty good. I'm I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm a convert right now because here I'll tell
Speaker 1: you I was talking to Ross Cooperman and man, we
Speaker 1: were talking about you know, we had a really good
Speaker 1: talk and he's coming to the Standard Show Saturday. Just
Speaker 1: talked to him and we were just you know, you
Speaker 1: kind of get lost in these conversations and didn't feel
Speaker 1: like this microphone in front of you for a while.
Speaker 1: And we're talking about songs, and I'm just so interested
Speaker 1: in the songwriter part of it for me, Like that's
Speaker 1: why I started this thing, Like I'm interested in songwriters
Speaker 1: and why they write songs, artists, artists or songwriter, songwriter,
Speaker 1: song I just want to know, like I want to
Speaker 1: put some light in a place that really there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of light shined on. And so I was like,
Speaker 1: so tell me you write these songs. These these guys
Speaker 1: take these huts that there aren't. There's like most artists,
Speaker 1: if it's fifty fifty or if it's sixty forty, they'll
Speaker 1: still go with their own song over another cut if
Speaker 1: if if it's close. And he was like, you're right,
Speaker 1: that does happen a lot, he said, but you know,
Speaker 1: here's what Kenny Chesney had told him. He said, you
Speaker 1: will sell more and merch if you have a hit
Speaker 1: it's not yours. Then if it's a great song, then
Speaker 1: if you have a good song, it is yours. The
Speaker 1: money you'll make. And he was like, that's what a
Speaker 1: lot of artists. And again he's a songwriter who isn't
Speaker 1: and who's not on the radio. So you gotta understand
Speaker 1: what's coming from a bias agenda field place. We all
Speaker 1: are eye him. You are everybody is. But he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, that's what the new artists should know, and
Speaker 1: that's what artists should know, Like you should take outside
Speaker 1: song from songwriters, because here's Kenny Chesney, who I don't
Speaker 1: know that Chesney writes anything on his records anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he doesn't very little, ye so, but he's not. He doesn't.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to him. He wants to find great
Speaker 1: songs what's And that's why Kidney has always been great.
Speaker 1: He's found the greatest way possible of doing something, whether
Speaker 1: it be a song, whether it be a show, whether
Speaker 1: it be his body working out. Like the guy does
Speaker 1: everything to a high level, and he expects a high
Speaker 1: level of of everything and his music. He's written great
Speaker 1: songs that were number one hits. Uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: go back. He wrote that by himself. I think, um,
Speaker 1: but a lot like I've learned from him being on
Speaker 1: the road as many as much as I was. Where
Speaker 1: he was like, Jake, you just gotta take what's the
Speaker 1: best song. And he's right because my first two albums
Speaker 1: I wrote every song everything, and uh, it wasn't until
Speaker 1: I recorded Barefoot Blue j Night and heard Eric Postley
Speaker 1: singing the demo on it. I was like, man, this
Speaker 1: sounds like me. And I didn't write it, but it
Speaker 1: sounds like me. I thought, was it tough for you
Speaker 1: to take an outside song for the first time and go, well,
Speaker 1: here's what a lot of people don't UM know either,
Speaker 1: Like when you come to town, when you're come to
Speaker 1: town and you're just a guy that just trying to
Speaker 1: make it and be validated as a great Like I
Speaker 1: wanted people in time to be like, man, if you
Speaker 1: heard this j kid, he's a great singer, he's a
Speaker 1: great songwriter, he's a great all. I felt like in
Speaker 1: order to get that buzz happening, I had to write
Speaker 1: my own songs and write with other songwriters and show
Speaker 1: that I could that I could do that. But and
Speaker 1: I was also with a buddy of mine who was
Speaker 1: helping me. We were writing everything together, and I was
Speaker 1: being loyal to him, and um never realized that by
Speaker 1: reaching into this beautiful, deep well of songwriters that you
Speaker 1: can't have a hit that and people don't care. They
Speaker 1: don't you're just as much valid they don't know if
Speaker 1: you have if you because you know what's funny is
Speaker 1: I think probably a lot of people thought I probably
Speaker 1: wrote Barefoot Blue J Knight because it was so much
Speaker 1: like me but made it sound like you too. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah. I think that's what I realized, is it?
Speaker 1: I had hits by songs I wrote I had a
Speaker 1: career song by taking an outside song, which that career
Speaker 1: song started a string of Alone with You was next.
Speaker 1: They went number one. Uh, Anywhere with You was the
Speaker 1: third one. It went number one. Old on a second,
Speaker 1: let's let's let out my steck. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: my favorite Jake On song, this one Heree song. And
Speaker 1: that's not some beechy coastal song, you know, that's just
Speaker 1: a song that I And what's funny is Shane mcinnal
Speaker 1: I wrote this song and I told him for a
Speaker 1: year before I recorded it, I don't even have it
Speaker 1: on hold. I was just like, dude, I love that song.
Speaker 1: I was like, I hate the line in it you
Speaker 1: got edge every time you call? Uh? He said, you
Speaker 1: don't what the I sang and change the lyrics. You've
Speaker 1: got me out on the edge every time you call.
Speaker 1: You know what he said originally in this in that line,
Speaker 1: no kidding, said you've got me running with scissors down
Speaker 1: the hall. Yeah, you know okay, and he said because
Speaker 1: he was right reading a book called running with Scissors, dude,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, that's terrible. I was like
Speaker 1: I can't know, and like I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: run with ever since my mom was like I was
Speaker 1: a kid, my mom's like, don't run with scissors. Like,
Speaker 1: and I understand the idea of it, but like, isn't
Speaker 1: it more of a metaphor? Now I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: line was right now, like the line change, but it's
Speaker 1: in't a medapal run with scissors like it's a metaphor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it is a metaphor, and I know it was
Speaker 1: a metaphor. But there's also lines and songs like that's
Speaker 1: the thing getting back to taking outside songs. There's so
Speaker 1: many times I hear songs. I'm like I love it,
Speaker 1: love it, love it, love it, love it, love it,
Speaker 1: love it. What did you just say? I'm like, uh,
Speaker 1: And that one thing. It's kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: people say they're not like vain or whatever, but you
Speaker 1: might be like super into a dude or a guy
Speaker 1: or whatever and be like I love everything about it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's one like big Toe. It's just
Speaker 1: like and it turns you off. Right, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I've ever done that. I'm just saying people people, people
Speaker 1: can be like particular about certain things, and that's how
Speaker 1: I am with songs. Like if I hear one thing
Speaker 1: that it'll throw me off, so I either have to
Speaker 1: rewrite it and then just say, hey, man, I'll cut
Speaker 1: this song. I just had to rewrite this one part.
Speaker 1: But that's why think I'll tell you I've never done
Speaker 1: You can ask Eric Passley this, and he talked about
Speaker 1: it on this extensively. I cannot take credit on like,
Speaker 1: even if I write something within a song, since the
Speaker 1: song wasn't originally my idea. I can never feel comfortable
Speaker 1: taking credit for for that because they set me up
Speaker 1: for the home run I just and I didn't have
Speaker 1: anything to do with it. I'd rather give the credit
Speaker 1: back to the songwriter. That's where to do. Songwriters man
Speaker 1: or songwriters have made my I'm a songwriter, but these
Speaker 1: other songwriters in Nashville, Ross Coporman, I mean, he he
Speaker 1: produced and and it was a big part Shane of
Speaker 1: my last album. UM And without these types of guys
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't I wouldn't be where I am in
Speaker 1: my career, I wouldn't have the things I have in
Speaker 1: my life, no way, absolutely not. So I always got
Speaker 1: to give that back to them. Yeah. Eric talked for
Speaker 1: a long time about how you came into that song
Speaker 1: and fixed it to be you a lot and didn't
Speaker 1: want any credit for it. Like he was like, it
Speaker 1: was kind of unbelievable that he came in did so
Speaker 1: much rearranging of things that made it feel like your
Speaker 1: song and never asked for anything. You know, man, I
Speaker 1: just don't. I don't feel like it's right. Plus it
Speaker 1: will all come back around one day, you know, like
Speaker 1: I've always looked at it, like you do the right
Speaker 1: thing right, good things come back around. Barefelt Blue, do
Speaker 1: not never want to learn with you? Number one? I
Speaker 1: want to got away When we got away number one.
Speaker 1: I wrote that song, uh true story about a girl
Speaker 1: that just came to town in a small town if
Speaker 1: you're a beach Florida and met her one summer and
Speaker 1: she went away. I never met I never saw her
Speaker 1: ever again, and I thought this song actually would like
Speaker 1: story that person would pop up and be like, did
Speaker 1: you ever look for on Facebook? You never even look
Speaker 1: for I don't even have a Facebook. Yeah, that didn't
Speaker 1: mean you didn't have Facebook like old Jabe, Twitter or
Speaker 1: something old Ye, my Space. I looked up around my
Speaker 1: Space a lot of places in our lifetime. We've got
Speaker 1: to see it all, like start how about too? Yeah,
Speaker 1: another song I didn't write. I did not write that song.
Speaker 1: I just love it. David Lee Murphy wrote this song
Speaker 1: I think with Ben Hay slip and uh oh man.
Speaker 1: I feel terrible. I'm forgetting the third writer on this
Speaker 1: song right now because we had a great night at
Speaker 1: the d m I Awards or game last show that
Speaker 1: I did there. You came out the first time and
Speaker 1: introduced him. Actually, if you remember that, yeah you did.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, it's been I've been here four years now
Speaker 1: you did. That's when I gave you that photo of
Speaker 1: twenty years. Yeah. Does it feel like you've been here
Speaker 1: a hundred years? Yeah? But I love it here like
Speaker 1: I moved here because I love it here, Dude, I
Speaker 1: love it here. I hate the industry. I love the people,
Speaker 1: and I love the part of the country. And I
Speaker 1: love the listeners of my show because they're normal people.
Speaker 1: I need to be a normal person with them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hate the music industry. There's see, here's the thing
Speaker 1: about the music industry. And this is, dude, I could
Speaker 1: say whatever I want about the music industry and that
Speaker 1: wouldn't matter one way or another as far as you
Speaker 1: know how I feel or whatever. No one gives a
Speaker 1: crap about how what I think. But I do believe
Speaker 1: that there are so and I think you have to
Speaker 1: admit in this like the music industry gets a rep
Speaker 1: for what it is. But there's so many great people, dude, Like,
Speaker 1: there are so many great people and so many people
Speaker 1: and so many like, there's so many people that have helped, like,
Speaker 1: and I keep going back to it, like I know
Speaker 1: because I messed up many of times. I've said things
Speaker 1: that people I should have never said. I've done like
Speaker 1: and I've said things that I didn't They weren't even
Speaker 1: meant the way they received them that were played against me.
Speaker 1: But I've learned that like in a town where people
Speaker 1: and then this business, which is creative, by the worst
Speaker 1: thing you can do is be like the negative nanny
Speaker 1: of the day, you know about the business, because I
Speaker 1: found like it can turn against you quick. I just
Speaker 1: check out of it. I have nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: As little as possible. I have to do with it like,
Speaker 1: and that has been my reputation, and at times it's
Speaker 1: not been good because of that because I just don't.
Speaker 1: I don't go to the record parties. I don't go
Speaker 1: to the fun cool stuff. I'm gonna go to the nothing.
Speaker 1: You'll never see me at anything because it just name
Speaker 1: one thing you've ever seen me. I try to be
Speaker 1: name one thing I challenged it. One thing you've ever
Speaker 1: seen yet that there wasn't something where I was part of,
Speaker 1: like a bull. That's what I'm saying, Like you have,
Speaker 1: that's something you had to be there for, like red
Speaker 1: carpet or something like. Right, But you're saying like you can't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you came to my thing in the b m I Awards.
Speaker 1: You can because we were friends at the time. What
Speaker 1: do you mean I'm still your friends? You know? No, No,
Speaker 1: But I'm saying we're friends. No, we've definitely had because
Speaker 1: we're both very because you're you're you, and you're not
Speaker 1: as weird as you are. Dude, I won't argue with
Speaker 1: that weird. I don't. I'm gonna argue with that. But
Speaker 1: when you get to you said that before we used
Speaker 1: to be friends. Just when you get too sensitive, No,
Speaker 1: that's not true. That's what happened. One time. I got it.
Speaker 1: There's a few times. Once you bad mouth me in
Speaker 1: a bar in Dallas to some listeners. How what you know?
Speaker 1: Go with it, dude? And I was like, dude, what's up?
Speaker 1: Like why would you do? Because they recorded you and
Speaker 1: they sent it to me and I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: what and you were like, uh, dude, I was drunk
Speaker 1: and it was I was like, you never sent me
Speaker 1: that text decision. I don't think I ever said that. See,
Speaker 1: I just think you get too many cool people text messages.
Speaker 1: And so I was like, all right, because remember being
Speaker 1: look what you like. I don't even know what this happened,
Speaker 1: Like why why did you like badmouth for me? What
Speaker 1: did I say? Uh's a lot of a lot of stuff,
Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. That matters to me, dude, because
Speaker 1: I never heard about it, and now you're bringing it
Speaker 1: up on your radio show. And so I'm dude, I'm
Speaker 1: all about I'm the most honest. The reason I'm here
Speaker 1: is because I feel like I've wanted to know you
Speaker 1: better because I don't like people know me that well.
Speaker 1: I get that you talk about that, you know, it
Speaker 1: gives me the best people that listen to my freaking show.
Speaker 1: That's the place where I can be the most vulnerable
Speaker 1: and honest, Like right now, I would never say that.
Speaker 1: People ask me all the time about you all the
Speaker 1: time because because that's why you get drunk, get angry
Speaker 1: and drunk that dude. First off, I never in my
Speaker 1: I like said that, but you were so drunk. I
Speaker 1: was just like, why would you say that? Like my
Speaker 1: feelings were because I really like, no, no, I can
Speaker 1: I tell you you really want my honest opinion because
Speaker 1: you say you don't care about what people think. No, no,
Speaker 1: everybody cares what people think. Dude. I one thing and
Speaker 1: maybe and I think over the years, like because I
Speaker 1: didn't like, I didn't go if you remember, like the
Speaker 1: first time I ever met he was at the I
Speaker 1: Heart thing that you were opening up on or whatever,
Speaker 1: and the guys some label called me and they said
Speaker 1: we were coming out as we're the Bobby Bones Show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I went to it. I went to it because
Speaker 1: not only yet did the label say, hey, you should
Speaker 1: go to this and be a good thing. But my
Speaker 1: but our mutual friend Andy Roddy was like, dude, you
Speaker 1: guys hit it obvious great and like and we and
Speaker 1: you're right, like you got And it was funny because
Speaker 1: someone else had said that to me it might work
Speaker 1: with you or something or on the show. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: are you and Bobby like all right, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I think so, I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: I did anything or maybe but when you're now talking
Speaker 1: about that, uh whatever, I said. The only time I
Speaker 1: can ever think of anytime someone's asking me about you,
Speaker 1: like how's wide bones? Is that guy? Really, I'm like, yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: you're a solid dude. But you do sometimes on air,
Speaker 1: and I'll be the first person to tell you. You
Speaker 1: can hate me for this for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: But like you sometimes for the guy that's Pimp and Joy,
Speaker 1: you sometimes like Duke Christir some drama on people, But like,
Speaker 1: you can't be two different people. You can't be the
Speaker 1: guy pimp and Enjoy and the guy over here talking
Speaker 1: to Rogers all the time. I'm human, I'm a human being.
Speaker 1: I going cranky, I going okay. So then you're expecting
Speaker 1: me then, for being a human being. When someone asked
Speaker 1: me and I've said that, I'm like, you guys get this,
Speaker 1: and like maybe, but I don't even I don't, and
Speaker 1: I would own it if I said anything that was
Speaker 1: that negative. And I appreciate the fact that you, like
Speaker 1: are just bringing you brought it up to me right
Speaker 1: now because about it. But I never but I never,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that ever happened due but
Speaker 1: then I got over it, okay. But I also think
Speaker 1: that we are human beings and we have the scale
Speaker 1: of awesomeness and awfulness and middleness us and we have
Speaker 1: all of that and we have to and it comes out.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how The best person I know in
Speaker 1: the whole world has got a dark side right like
Speaker 1: the and I'm the same way. And if I act
Speaker 1: like I wasn't, I wouldn't be honest like I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't ever want someone to go like that's just
Speaker 1: the best dude, because I'm not the best dude. I
Speaker 1: don't never claim to be the best dude. I try
Speaker 1: to put out as much good stun as possible. But
Speaker 1: I'm a humanist can possibly be and flawed as anybody.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, So I never claimed me mr,
Speaker 1: And I do get this, And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: how can you be so pous and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden get ticked off because I'm a human being. That's
Speaker 1: where that's where my Sometimes I think when I did,
Speaker 1: and you know I've called you before. Do you like
Speaker 1: I listened to your show in the morning every morning
Speaker 1: when when I go to the gym, the first thing
Speaker 1: I turned on, I listened number one because I just
Speaker 1: think guys are funny too. I like to hear what's
Speaker 1: going on. Three. I like to hear the new music
Speaker 1: that people are making music. It's the only time that
Speaker 1: I actually get to hear it. And uh yeah, There's
Speaker 1: been times where I'm like, dang man, like you said
Speaker 1: a few things sometimes and I'll be like, God, can't
Speaker 1: believe you said that. And that's from a person that's
Speaker 1: like your I thought it. I still think i'm your friend, dude, Like,
Speaker 1: oh no, no no, I do too. I think we're definitely cool,
Speaker 1: like we're friends again, or I would have you in
Speaker 1: my house like that. That just wouldn't happen. And I
Speaker 1: only and I wouldn't even talk about this if we
Speaker 1: weren't friends or friendly. Every friendship and anyone anytime people
Speaker 1: have a friendship or whatnot, and arts could be through
Speaker 1: business whatever you want to call it. But in any friendship,
Speaker 1: there's always times where someone is not fully understanding the
Speaker 1: other person or because you know, I don't know, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: dude said something that ever like made you feel weird
Speaker 1: or like like disrespected you or something, because that would
Speaker 1: not be disrespect not how I that's not how I
Speaker 1: like to be. I get dispected again, it's just me things.
Speaker 1: I feel like I can dispected everybody all time, so
Speaker 1: that part of them bothered me. But I was like, man,
Speaker 1: like one of the dudes, like one of the dudes
Speaker 1: that consider my dudes, and I got I put them
Speaker 1: on one hand. I felt like, man, it was bad
Speaker 1: bad mouth to me, but it hurt my feelings. But again,
Speaker 1: you're all if you were drinking. I was like, how
Speaker 1: can I? But still I'm human And when you say
Speaker 1: things like man, you do stuff on there, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: that makes me feel good because that knows that I'm
Speaker 1: being real. Like all I can ever be is real,
Speaker 1: and if I ever am not real, if I'm ever
Speaker 1: just so positive all the time on the air, that's fake.
Speaker 1: That's fake. That's not a human being. And I can't
Speaker 1: not be a human being because the only thing I
Speaker 1: have is to be real and sometimes people hate me
Speaker 1: sometimes like yeah, but like I get it. But then
Speaker 1: like there's times you're like every day is a good
Speaker 1: and so why don't you look at it like that
Speaker 1: all the time? Because I can't look at anything like
Speaker 1: anything all the time. Really, I went and I about
Speaker 1: two years ago, I was like, I started to feel
Speaker 1: like I'm going to push out a more positive and
Speaker 1: make a difference to more people's lives. And that was
Speaker 1: my goal. And you have, dude, by all means. And
Speaker 1: I tried, and I fail a lot too, I do,
Speaker 1: I feel a lot, but you know what's funny, come
Speaker 1: on and this is the truth though too And maybe
Speaker 1: sometimes why maybe certain artists all however, like because it's
Speaker 1: you have in something that I believe in. I think
Speaker 1: it's great and I think you know this you have
Speaker 1: you know you have it, like you have an unbelievable
Speaker 1: influential power for people the same way they come to me,
Speaker 1: because they don't really know anything about you other than
Speaker 1: what you tell them every day on the show and
Speaker 1: this and that. So people come to me or any
Speaker 1: of us as artists will be like, hey, what's that
Speaker 1: guy like because you're everywhere, but they kind of know
Speaker 1: who we're what we're like through you. Thankfully, you know
Speaker 1: you're giving us a chance to go on your show
Speaker 1: and talk and play and sing and uh So it's
Speaker 1: kind of that thing where like no one's really truly no,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: You're looking at me like you're confused, and I probably
Speaker 1: said that confusing. No, I don't think I've ever looked
Speaker 1: at you confused. I'm actually listening to your words, and
Speaker 1: I think this is different for you to have someone
Speaker 1: actually just listened to you. Really, I said, I'd just
Speaker 1: be like, oh, did you Jay go and do something
Speaker 1: funny like really no. But I appreciate the fact that
Speaker 1: we brought this up though, man, because like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: makes Like I said earlier, there's nothing that makes me
Speaker 1: feel more awkward in life than knowing that I did
Speaker 1: or have ever said something that because I've done it.
Speaker 1: I've definitely said and done things that should have said.
Speaker 1: Remember that, dude, I don't remember that though. That's the thing,
Speaker 1: like I would be one would be like, you're right, dude,
Speaker 1: that was messed up. But like I swear to I
Speaker 1: swear I don't even remember that and haven't heard it,
Speaker 1: don't whatever. And I would love if you ever come
Speaker 1: up with that to play it for me, because I'd
Speaker 1: be like, damn, dude said that. But I have a
Speaker 1: hard time like I can't like says when I don't know,
Speaker 1: like I haven't, I haven't. It doesn't like I'm actually
Speaker 1: over it. You have like like, yeah, that's weird. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like it's just like a Donald Trump thing
Speaker 1: or something due or like someone was like recording me
Speaker 1: while I was saying something. Probably can people do that?
Speaker 1: People that to me too. Yeah they fished and it happens.
Speaker 1: But you gave me a huge compliment and I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: What did I say that I'm human and I still
Speaker 1: get to come I come across this human on the
Speaker 1: air and flawed because if I don't, that sucks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm very flawed. And if I am not, then
Speaker 1: again it's like I'm not doing my job. And sometimes
Speaker 1: if I don't. If you have so much to say
Speaker 1: every day, dude, that it's got to be hard anyways
Speaker 1: to like here's the thing for me. The difference, Like
Speaker 1: I go on stage each day and play the songs
Speaker 1: they want to hear or whatever. And each night I
Speaker 1: do different things that make the show individually different because
Speaker 1: and then there's people that come to the like the
Speaker 1: same people that come to the show. It's like you like,
Speaker 1: there's that that same thing. You have people every morning
Speaker 1: that listen, but like each day you can like you're
Speaker 1: having to talk about so much stuff that you can't
Speaker 1: always be can but that wouldn't be. That wouldn't be
Speaker 1: why people wouldn't tune into you. And I'm okay with
Speaker 1: upsetting people as long as I'm upsetting them if I'm
Speaker 1: being honest. And sometimes I go home and I hate
Speaker 1: myself and I go back on the other next day
Speaker 1: and I was like, God, I was such an idiot.
Speaker 1: I should not have said that. Yeah, well that's maybe
Speaker 1: what That's what I If I've ever taken anything away
Speaker 1: from your show where I like, I would feel like, man,
Speaker 1: that's that's where that's where I would like, Lie, I've
Speaker 1: ever talked about about you on the show, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. No, not really, but I mean like, but no,
Speaker 1: not me. But you've said go ahead whatever you want
Speaker 1: said what I said about know about me? Like we've
Speaker 1: talked before about like when you I've come in and
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, Jake doesn't like us anymore, and like
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't even know what that means,
Speaker 1: Like I don't feel that but here, and you know,
Speaker 1: this is how the whole show feels about And I
Speaker 1: think I feel that way because like that is my
Speaker 1: moment to be there with you guys and talk and
Speaker 1: have fun or whatever. And like I'm like, damn, it's
Speaker 1: because you've felt it before. I've been in your show
Speaker 1: and you've been like that was that was awkward? You know,
Speaker 1: this is how our whole show feels about you as
Speaker 1: a group, because our our show is tight, right, Like
Speaker 1: we've been friends for a long time and so and
Speaker 1: we fight amongst the show, right, but it's like a
Speaker 1: family because we mean lunchbox, Tie and Amy and I've
Speaker 1: been together for thirteen years. You don't stay together thirteen
Speaker 1: years if you don't want to be together that long,
Speaker 1: right You When you come in, everybody enjoys you so much.
Speaker 1: We feel like we can give you a hard time
Speaker 1: because we crush each other. Well, pop like that. I
Speaker 1: like getting crushed sometimes you do, and sometimes we're like,
Speaker 1: oh at he took it a little too like he
Speaker 1: took it a little too like we give it to
Speaker 1: you a little too hard because we like you a
Speaker 1: little too much. Know, well, you're I'll give you the
Speaker 1: freedom now, you know. But I think that's why. And
Speaker 1: if it comes down owing that, I'm like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: If we really give it to somebody, that means we
Speaker 1: really like them. And maybe that's not translated as well
Speaker 1: by us because we just feel like, oh, the part
Speaker 1: of the group, we can make fun of him, and
Speaker 1: that's probably on us for not letting you know that
Speaker 1: we feel like you're one of us. Ah, well, I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. But when you come in, man, we go
Speaker 1: hard because we feel like, oh, there's one of our
Speaker 1: we have seen a while, Like it's our buddy from
Speaker 1: freaking dude, it's so weird. You don't understand. Like I
Speaker 1: get off on playing guitar and singing songs and being
Speaker 1: the guy that knows every song. Dude. I'm like, it's
Speaker 1: funny you were talking you talk about and he's been
Speaker 1: on your show multiple times. You're like, this guy is
Speaker 1: a human jukebox and me being a competitor. Craig Cambell
Speaker 1: and I love Craig greatest, singer in the world. Dude,
Speaker 1: nice rainbow just came outside, beautiful. The rainbow comes right
Speaker 1: behind your head, Bobby, Uh, but be being a competitor.
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, not like, dude, I know every song
Speaker 1: it's a man. But what's weird is and this is
Speaker 1: the same thing. Go back to your show. Like the
Speaker 1: girl I've been dating when the last song was on
Speaker 1: your show and I forgot what it was like when
Speaker 1: it was a few months back. I stayed up, dude
Speaker 1: all night thinking of a song that I could play
Speaker 1: on your show because I wanted it to be awesome
Speaker 1: because you have so many awesome people on there. But
Speaker 1: I also knew too, Like like I was like, what
Speaker 1: could I do to be cool cover? Because you know,
Speaker 1: you're like like hearing like a chick song but done
Speaker 1: by a guy, or like a pop song like tons man,
Speaker 1: and like it literally like and I've never done that
Speaker 1: in my life. Like I usually like that whatever I
Speaker 1: got into rate you know tomorrow. But like I stayed
Speaker 1: up and I was still the day when I got there.
Speaker 1: Driving down there, I was like, what am I gonna play?
Speaker 1: What am I gonna play? I was like, nervous, Dude,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I got nervous, man, But that's
Speaker 1: an on i'd be. I would be lying if I
Speaker 1: didn't say that. And I don't know why I feel
Speaker 1: that way, Like when I go there to y'all show.
Speaker 1: This is what I think because it matters to us
Speaker 1: when you come into I think we care about how
Speaker 1: each other feels about each other. Yeah, I mean that.
Speaker 1: I do mean that if I'm being if I'm letting
Speaker 1: my feelings on the day, there's a rainbow out outside
Speaker 1: the window, so you can let it out. I think
Speaker 1: that we both like each other. I think we care
Speaker 1: about each other, and so that puts the pressure onto
Speaker 1: a little bit, like we want it to be great
Speaker 1: because it doesn't get to happen often it does. We
Speaker 1: want it to be the lightning in the bottle that
Speaker 1: we felt like it should be. I think that's probably
Speaker 1: what it is. And also, you're weird and I'm probably weirder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And our mutual friend is weird too, and he's the
Speaker 1: weirdest doing the whole world like weird, Like yeah, because
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys too that one minute you
Speaker 1: can catch him and he's like totally like have you
Speaker 1: go the nexting, he almost feel like you don't know you.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why him and I were so
Speaker 1: good together, is that it didn't matter. It was just
Speaker 1: like you want to lock yourself in the room. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I'll just watch TV. They just didn't you know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well we've talked about a lot. I told you, this
Speaker 1: is a whole different thing I got. I mean, I
Speaker 1: haven't have like the jams over here, like you know
Speaker 1: my favorite one this side it's right, I mean, like
Speaker 1: who is Jaco and singing a second ride? It was
Speaker 1: this guy that would just I literally I wrote that
Speaker 1: song in Tallahassee with a buddy of mine, Eric Durants,
Speaker 1: And actually we were part of it in Tahassee. Part
Speaker 1: of it was in a van driving back from Nashville.
Speaker 1: I got it. He had his tour bus like they
Speaker 1: were on tour in a rock band, and I jumped
Speaker 1: in his van and rode back with him to Tallahassee
Speaker 1: and we wrote that song. And then you don't even
Speaker 1: like it doesn't sound like your vocals don't even sound
Speaker 1: the same. But there was I've gone through a lot,
Speaker 1: like when I worked with Joey who did all the
Speaker 1: Florida George a line stuff and all that he actually had.
Speaker 1: Barefoot Blue j Night was out before before the FGL
Speaker 1: like big Cruise thing and all that. And if you remember,
Speaker 1: and I'm not just saying this as bragget some people
Speaker 1: hate the song whatever, but like when that song came out,
Speaker 1: Barefoot Blue j Night, it sounded just different than than
Speaker 1: other stuff that was on the right. People my songwriting
Speaker 1: friends now that will tell me, they'll be like, man,
Speaker 1: there's times that we're in room and people were like,
Speaker 1: man that they're if a blue unright something like that.
Speaker 1: When it came out, just it sounded different. Um. And
Speaker 1: luckily when I met Joey and we did that together,
Speaker 1: he changed like my whole world, my perception of the
Speaker 1: people that were listening, not only like like visually from
Speaker 1: the things the way things changed, but like sonically and
Speaker 1: audibly and uh so that guy was previous early stuff
Speaker 1: that was just I don't know, man, I was trying
Speaker 1: real hard to like just to put out a song
Speaker 1: that worked. Like I think when you get a record
Speaker 1: deal to like you in the early days, like you're
Speaker 1: so focused on trying. That's all I had. I dropped
Speaker 1: out of college. I told my parents I was gonna
Speaker 1: do this. I was gonna like I was like doing
Speaker 1: anything I could to keep the glass together, and I'm
Speaker 1: still trying to keep the glass together. I don't think
Speaker 1: we ever stopped. Yeah, I don't think it ever stops. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just I'm just you're constantly. I won't say I'm worried,
Speaker 1: because I'm not worried about what's next in life. But
Speaker 1: I don't like the fact of knowing that, like something's
Speaker 1: not doing as well as pass subly. Could you know
Speaker 1: I feel about this one. I love it. It makes
Speaker 1: me happy. What do you think about it? I think
Speaker 1: it sounds like you. That's what I've done interviews recently
Speaker 1: for this song, and people have said to you there like, dude, Jake,
Speaker 1: this sounds like you, Like I'm happy to hear this
Speaker 1: is your new single because it sound When I heard it,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's Jake. But people probably also told
Speaker 1: you that he ain't gonna love you. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is We're gonna blow this up too, and it
Speaker 1: be awesome. That's why I don't trust anybody, cause people
Speaker 1: just tell you what you want to hear. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: I trust myself and I trust my judgment and I
Speaker 1: trust the fact that this song is just feels it
Speaker 1: feels good to me, man, and and if and if
Speaker 1: it if this doesn't work, then it felt good to me.
Speaker 1: And I can really I've told you it multiple times now,
Speaker 1: and I've told other people. So it didn't work, and
Speaker 1: then we'll see what happens in where I go from there.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I have a
Speaker 1: whole lot of fans and I and I make a
Speaker 1: good living. Um, I'm able to do everything I want
Speaker 1: outside of maybe seeing my little girl as much as
Speaker 1: i'd like to. Um. But I uh, I'm getting back
Speaker 1: to what I said earlier. Man, I could I honestly,
Speaker 1: I couldn't be happier in my life. Like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what I could have right now that would make
Speaker 1: me way happier than what I am right now. Like
Speaker 1: I'm pretty comfortable. I finally realized that I just it's
Speaker 1: okay to be me and just be cool with it.
Speaker 1: I feel like we should pay each other for therapy session,
Speaker 1: but they we'll be back even again, so we don't
Speaker 1: owe each other anything. I Mean, someone said to me
Speaker 1: the other day, They're like, it was an interview that
Speaker 1: I did and this lady said, you, Jake, I remember
Speaker 1: there was a time where you were telling people I
Speaker 1: read it and Rolling Stone that you didn't want to
Speaker 1: be pigeonholed as just the the beach guy, the guy
Speaker 1: that you know, that's all it. And um, she was
Speaker 1: like why because that's isn't that where you're from and
Speaker 1: kind of what you know? And I said yeah, and
Speaker 1: I was and not looking back, that was probably not
Speaker 1: this one of the smartest things I ever said. Hey,
Speaker 1: I had a lot of these, and apparently every morning
Speaker 1: you listen, I say a lot of dumps. Are your
Speaker 1: feelings hurt? I like it? Really? Yeah? I love it.
Speaker 1: You feel like we got real. I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: glad you told me that about me, man, because I
Speaker 1: was wondering what was like, you know, up your skirt
Speaker 1: about me. So I feel a little better now. I've
Speaker 1: already told you that, but honestly I don't think you did.
Speaker 1: But for sure did remember remember it like an iron
Speaker 1: freaking trap. Well, I'm glad you know, at least we
Speaker 1: got it out there. I feel good about it now.
Speaker 1: I felt good anyway. I felt good anyway before it
Speaker 1: Like I was like, you know what, I've also been
Speaker 1: able to let things go as I get older a
Speaker 1: little bit more, you know, And I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: as beefy and feisty as I used to be. Still
Speaker 1: am there's still a part of it. Well, I'm glad
Speaker 1: that you and uh, you and kid I got that
Speaker 1: stuff all figured out. We did. We went to lunch
Speaker 1: school and you were talking earlier about him on a podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's interesting, Like he has must be buds now, Like, no,
Speaker 1: we're not buds, but I'm not. I'm not buzz with
Speaker 1: anybody but keep and I got into it was because
Speaker 1: it was over the thing. But it's like when your
Speaker 1: buddies with people, like you tell everyone like, this is
Speaker 1: my buddy, this is my buddy, and then when you're
Speaker 1: not buddies, don't you know, I don't hang out. I
Speaker 1: have no break up with your friends. Dude, did we
Speaker 1: break up for a while? Now, Like we broke up.
Speaker 1: I think we probably just took a break. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just like went out of town probably. But again, even
Speaker 1: with the kipt thing I on the air, and this
Speaker 1: is probably was me probably as you would say, Dick,
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, stop with the phones. I stop
Speaker 1: yelling at people from snapchatting your phone. This is what
Speaker 1: happens at a concert. It was. My opinion was it
Speaker 1: probably rude and not polite to say on the radio
Speaker 1: and not something under DJ would do. Yeah, probably, but
Speaker 1: it's really how I felt. And he got out of me,
Speaker 1: and again kept and I both sensitive people, and so
Speaker 1: I think all of us did do this. You're creative,
Speaker 1: we're weird, have to be sensitive. So we were like,
Speaker 1: screw it and kept on. I went to breakfast and
Speaker 1: we just talked about it for like an hour and
Speaker 1: a half and then it was like, all we're good.
Speaker 1: Like I'm crazy, You're crazy. I see why you'd be
Speaker 1: offended by this. I still stand by it, but I
Speaker 1: see why you would be. And he's like, and I
Speaker 1: see why you would say that, and I still think
Speaker 1: you're wrong. But it's like we're a good place. And
Speaker 1: like Kevin and I were John Merrishaw in Minneapolis at
Speaker 1: the same time, and he was like, hey, are you here,
Speaker 1: And it was like, how good was that show? By
Speaker 1: the way, let's talk about that. It was really good
Speaker 1: because it wasn't the Hits totally, and as a major fan,
Speaker 1: I don't need I don't want to hear your Body
Speaker 1: the wonder Land. Yeah, I didn't need to hear that either.
Speaker 1: And he played he went no he but he played
Speaker 1: Why Georgia. He played Why Georgia at Ours? Did he
Speaker 1: play neon? He did? See he didn't play that at ours.
Speaker 1: But he opened up with moving on, getting over. We
Speaker 1: went not the same as seas to me. Do you know?
Speaker 1: Do you know him at all? So? Yeah, dude. So
Speaker 1: here's what's crazy. Speaking of Andy, So because of the
Speaker 1: tennis world, that's how I know Andy, which for those
Speaker 1: of you all that are listening is are is Bobby
Speaker 1: and his mutual friend Andy Roddick, who was number one
Speaker 1: in the world for multiple years tennis won Wimbledon lamomal Uh,
Speaker 1: my best friend Marty Fish and Andy were were all.
Speaker 1: They lived together, played basketball in Boca Prep like we played. Uh,
Speaker 1: we played tennis as kids together. I used to laugh
Speaker 1: because Andy'd be the only guy that like show up
Speaker 1: like all of us are like just kids playing in
Speaker 1: tennis fermants. And Andy showed up literally like sponsored by
Speaker 1: Prince Prince, shoes, Prince Rackett, Prince everything. His parents were
Speaker 1: like right there behind him. So anyway, a long story short,
Speaker 1: the whole tennis world and community as they grew and
Speaker 1: got bigger. Um. Then Andy and Marty became very very
Speaker 1: tight with James Blake. Um. James Blake if you know
Speaker 1: you guys don't know, James is African American tennis player.
Speaker 1: UM from Connecticut, played at Hartford, super super smart guys retired.
Speaker 1: Actually the same guy that was standing outside that building
Speaker 1: in New York City and randomly they just took him down.
Speaker 1: Yeah anyway, um, Um, Thomas Blake and James who I'm
Speaker 1: speaking of, grew up in like just outside Hartford in Connecticut,
Speaker 1: right next door to John Mayor. So he and John
Speaker 1: Mary grew up together. So yes, long answer your short question.
Speaker 1: Do I know him? Um? Ten years ago, eleven years ago.
Speaker 1: He came to Gainesville to play when I was in college,
Speaker 1: and I loved he had the inside once out a
Speaker 1: little acoustic, comfortable, and which is why I played that
Speaker 1: that day on your show. I love that song. Victoria's
Speaker 1: on that album, a lot of great songs, and UM,
Speaker 1: I've told James was like, dude, I'm such a big
Speaker 1: fan of this guy, Like it'd be awesome. You guys
Speaker 1: should all come down. We'll go to the show together.
Speaker 1: So we did, and then after the show, Uh, we
Speaker 1: went to this little coffee shop together and it was
Speaker 1: I mean literally the show was no bigger than the
Speaker 1: exit and if not smaller, and we all went out
Speaker 1: and got coffee together. As at the time John wasn't
Speaker 1: drinking or anything. It was like the straight edge part
Speaker 1: of his life and um, interesting human being. He's a duck, sure,
Speaker 1: but that's why he's still nuts. And Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: loved the show, Like I learned a lot about it
Speaker 1: by going and watching it. Um. I love the different
Speaker 1: um chapters. I liked the differently Yeah, and that's why
Speaker 1: it's great. Differently but simply And that's the that's the
Speaker 1: beauty of it when even when you think of a
Speaker 1: guy like Merl Haggard, like he was different, but he
Speaker 1: was simply different. You know, there's nothing that like there's
Speaker 1: so many simple things about John Mayor and the music
Speaker 1: he makes and the and the things he plays. Um,
Speaker 1: because I love guitar playing, but I'm a huge fan
Speaker 1: of drawn to tone and and and and what you're
Speaker 1: not playing like what and like for instance, Love on
Speaker 1: the Weekend to me is was is the hit song
Speaker 1: of that wave of the of that album Search for Everything,
Speaker 1: it's the hit. But if you think about it for
Speaker 1: a guitar player like John Mayer, who's such an amazing
Speaker 1: guitar player. That was the first song that they released
Speaker 1: off that album. But when you listen to that song,
Speaker 1: other than the melody dune dune doodoe dune doo doo
Speaker 1: doo doo dune, there's no guitar solo in that song.
Speaker 1: How cool is it to be like the greatest guitar
Speaker 1: player in the world and not do what people expect
Speaker 1: you to do. Right, let's go listen. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a hit on the record, but I do think
Speaker 1: I do get your point, which it's the hit. You
Speaker 1: could play on the radio and it would be you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying and be just that kind of tune.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, there's no guitar solo on that song.
Speaker 1: There there isn't. You're right, and it's it's an odd
Speaker 1: song structurally, is an odd song, which is cool? Uh?
Speaker 1: What love on the weekend? It's not Yeah, it's three chords. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about verse chorus change.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not you don't put it on the
Speaker 1: radio and it just makes sense. I think it feels
Speaker 1: like something like you can hear like like you ought
Speaker 1: to next you know, you want to do this on
Speaker 1: your show, on your show next time. His brother's Osborne
Speaker 1: and get and get t J to sing like this
Speaker 1: is the chance that this is the radio. Dude, I
Speaker 1: do a great cover of this song. You never played
Speaker 1: it on that. I mean, this is like the realest
Speaker 1: song on the record. Say, but the really the real
Speaker 1: is in the blood. It's like does it wash away
Speaker 1: in the water or in the blood? Um. I'm a
Speaker 1: big fan of moving on and getting over because that dude,
Speaker 1: you gott understand that. That's a big part of me
Speaker 1: right now too. It's like moving on getting over things.
Speaker 1: John Mayra was the first artist ever speak to me
Speaker 1: really like actually felt my life and his words. Ever
Speaker 1: in my whole life, I always love music, different music,
Speaker 1: everybody from my grandma to the radio, nineties, alternative to
Speaker 1: hip hop everything. The first artist ever spoke to me
Speaker 1: was John Mayr. It was because he was around the
Speaker 1: same age, old but around the same age, was kind
Speaker 1: of going through the same time. That was like he's
Speaker 1: saying things, did I yeah that you've yeah, Like even
Speaker 1: dating back to the inside once something that my stupid
Speaker 1: mouth that was on there, like you know anytimes, my
Speaker 1: stupid mount's got me in trouble a lot. And you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot about your right, there's a lot about
Speaker 1: his music. That's and that's why I specifically, I mean, dude,
Speaker 1: I had a day two days off. You think I
Speaker 1: want to travel on my name's and it's only two
Speaker 1: days I wait off too, and I took I took
Speaker 1: my girlfriend. I just said, I have a girlfriend. I
Speaker 1: took her to Chicago to go see that show. And
Speaker 1: it was awesome. It was amazing. And the last song
Speaker 1: when he comes out and it's all white, the screens
Speaker 1: white everything, and then he walks through the door and
Speaker 1: leaves and it's over and it says the end, and
Speaker 1: then I tried to run. It's no, it's crazy again. Crazy.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's I mean, I feel like he
Speaker 1: could maybe Like his wardrobe was a little weird, like
Speaker 1: he had like an oversized looked like he got like
Speaker 1: a black shirt. It looked like he got is like
Speaker 1: sport cod from like the thrift store. Like I didn't
Speaker 1: even fit him, you know what I mean. But again,
Speaker 1: he's weird, But then again like if I could play
Speaker 1: guitar like that, dude, I just that's why you like Lindsay,
Speaker 1: isn't She plays all those John Mayra songs for you
Speaker 1: and she's a great That's not why I like her.
Speaker 1: But here's the other thing why she wanted to know
Speaker 1: because we went back to see him before the show
Speaker 1: and she was like in her favorite artists John Ayre
Speaker 1: to like Keith Urban, John A, Brad Paisley, or like
Speaker 1: the three biggest influences on her. Altho, I've been trying
Speaker 1: to get her to say dime bag Darrel in an interview,
Speaker 1: just to say it, because I think it'd be so
Speaker 1: funny bart Pantera reference out there. I feel like, I'll
Speaker 1: give you a hundred dollars just when someone interviewed you
Speaker 1: be like because they they always asked her and they're like,
Speaker 1: who are you influences? He's like Keith Urban, John mayor
Speaker 1: Brad Paisley. I said, please just say dime bag Darrel
Speaker 1: wants because he was hardcore he got shot on stage,
Speaker 1: remember to being killed, But he was like, no, even
Speaker 1: if they did, please say dime bag Darrel. So if
Speaker 1: you ever hear that, know that I put her out
Speaker 1: to it, but she wanted to know the pedal he
Speaker 1: used on Rosie on. She didn't want to ask him.
Speaker 1: She didn't want to be a nerd. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I ask him. Care so back and we're talking whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, that's why that. I was like, lindsay
Speaker 1: what eltone asked you about a pedal or a tone?
Speaker 1: You would want to talk for thirty minutes about it?
Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, so on Rosie, what pedal
Speaker 1: was that he started talking about it? He could have
Speaker 1: been talking Mandarin to me. I had no idea who's saying.
Speaker 1: But he was like right, he was really into it,
Speaker 1: and he was like envelopes a sound and he's talking
Speaker 1: to him and I'm just glad he didn't ask a
Speaker 1: question to me about what because I had no idea
Speaker 1: what he was saying. And she's back there just listening,
Speaker 1: thinking everything like that gets the pedal because she's like
Speaker 1: typing into her phone and so with whatever, and he's
Speaker 1: about to go on and we leave and whatever. She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I like, if you find somebody, I don't care who
Speaker 1: they are. It can be frankin Bono or it can
Speaker 1: be the guy that's right down the corner. If you
Speaker 1: find something they're into and you ask him about it,
Speaker 1: they love to talk about it. And he loved and
Speaker 1: she watched him to nerd out over the solo and Rosie,
Speaker 1: and I was like, if someone asks you about a solo,
Speaker 1: don't you love to talk about it because you sit here?
Speaker 1: And she's music theory Berkeley like she was genius kid
Speaker 1: like prodigy works just all she has sitting there and
Speaker 1: place solos for three hours at a time. And I'll
Speaker 1: be at the house and She'll just be sitting down
Speaker 1: there on the couch playing solos. And dude, I don't
Speaker 1: even know if she's doing I'm handling around, Like what
Speaker 1: if somebody asked you about this when you love it? Ye?
Speaker 1: Like he's a human. Yeah, we're all humans searching for everything.
Speaker 1: I've seen him. He's You talk about us being weird,
Speaker 1: He's a weird dude too. But you have to be
Speaker 1: weird to be special. That's what special is. All right. Um,
Speaker 1: this has been a it's been it's been up. We
Speaker 1: worked through a lot of stuff. Like I told you,
Speaker 1: I've never been to a therapist before, but I think
Speaker 1: I have. Next time brings juice. I think that's what
Speaker 1: we learned, right, Mike. I wouldn't be fair to tell
Speaker 1: you too that, probably because I've been drinking a lot
Speaker 1: of water lately. I'm trying back on my real hard
Speaker 1: health kick. Like I've had to pee for probably thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: But I didn't want to say that. You could have
Speaker 1: walked off and like with live stuff going on, and
Speaker 1: this is this, it is what it is. We're humans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. You got to get back to that, like
Speaker 1: you told me, I'm human. That's right, all right, thanks man?
Speaker 1: So wait, do you have a good time? Had a
Speaker 1: great time? I gotta wait. I got too many things
Speaker 1: going here on. I still don't know how to use
Speaker 1: all the equipment yet, Like we built this thing with
Speaker 1: our own money, by the way, we don't really know
Speaker 1: how to use it all. All right, that's it episode
Speaker 1: what yot? Thank you, Mike, duh. And you can download
Speaker 1: Good Company from Jay Going or if you listen to
Speaker 1: this and like a year from now, whatever song you
Speaker 1: gotta right now, it's my favorite song. It is, so
Speaker 1: I like that, right, Yeah, it's great And and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm plugging myself right now, but I am playing a
Speaker 1: sind Amphitheater next Thursday night. It's a big deal for me.
Speaker 1: It's a Nashville show. You nobody cares in Nashville, and
Speaker 1: it's like everybody's coming to judge and and and I
Speaker 1: want to see what you got. And I'm really proud.
Speaker 1: I'm very very proud of what I've put together over
Speaker 1: the years. And I honestly cannot wait to play for Nashville.
Speaker 1: So if you want to come out, come on out
Speaker 1: and see his play, that would be Thursday. It'll be
Speaker 1: the most special because Thursday, April, there you go, April
Speaker 1: twenty seven, Jake going to Nashville. I know it's a
Speaker 1: big show. Um then Nashville, things weren't Like I'm doing
Speaker 1: stand up in Nashville, and it's like everybody industry wants
Speaker 1: to come so they can. I don't know if you're good,
Speaker 1: that's why they're coming. They want to, Like I want
Speaker 1: to see if he's good at what I heard he
Speaker 1: does comedy. I like comedy. I just want to go
Speaker 1: and see he's good at it. And that's the thing,
Speaker 1: like people are like I like songs, I like Jake.
Speaker 1: I like going and drinking free booze, Like I want
Speaker 1: to go see if he's really good at what he does,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I am, I'm a ball or dude. Here
Speaker 1: we go, see you guys. All right, that's I'll see
Speaker 1: you next guys. That's cool, man,