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Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and loud, So

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Speaker 1: Michael Verie Show is on the air.

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Speaker 2: We have had a lot of news this week. In

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Speaker 2: a lot of developments for the Trump White House. The

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Speaker 2: last known living American hostage in Gaza is set to

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Speaker 2: be released, progress on trade with China, this ceasefire between

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Speaker 2: India and Pakistan, and now possible face to face talks

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Speaker 2: between Zelenski and Kutin for the first time since Russia

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Speaker 2: invaded Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: To win with every single facet. We're gonna win so much.

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Speaker 3: You may even get tired of winning, and you'll say, please, please,

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Speaker 3: it's too much winning. We can't take it anymore. This

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Speaker 3: is the president. It's too much, And I'll say, no,

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Speaker 3: it isn't. We have to keep winning. We have to

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Speaker 3: win more. We're gonna win more. We're gonna win so much.

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Speaker 4: It's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in

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Speaker 4: our because.

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Speaker 3: You'd be in jail.

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Speaker 1: It was a standard line for them. Donald Trump is

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Speaker 1: a threat to democracy.

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Speaker 5: I'm just the opposite.

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Speaker 1: I'm the one that fixed our military.

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Speaker 2: I'm the one that knocked out isis.

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Speaker 5: I'm the one. I did so much. I also took

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Speaker 5: a bullet.

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Speaker 3: The attacker in Pennsylvania wanted to stop our movement. But

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Speaker 3: the truth is, the movement has never been about me.

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Speaker 3: It has always been about you.

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Speaker 6: It's your movement.

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Speaker 3: It's the biggest movement in the history of our country

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Speaker 3: by far.

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Speaker 7: Can't be stocked.

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Speaker 8: It can't be stopped. From June fourteenth, a month and

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Speaker 8: a day from now, President Trump will turn seventy nine.

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Speaker 8: I go visit my dad almost every day, the Old

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Speaker 8: Folks Home. There are people there less than seventy nine

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Speaker 8: who struggle to get to dinner at five o'clock walking

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Speaker 8: down the hallway. The debilitating effects of age on our memory,

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Speaker 8: on our bodies, they vary. It is worth noting that

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Speaker 8: Donald Trump never drank not a drop of alcohol in

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Speaker 8: his life. His brother Fred died of alcoholism, and Donald

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Speaker 8: Trump didn't want to do that, opposed to doing drugs

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Speaker 8: that no doubt affects his physical state. I also believe

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Speaker 8: that people who retire from a job they hate as

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Speaker 8: opposed to people who never retire because they loved their

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Speaker 8: job and work until the day they die. That's Rush Limbaugh.

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Speaker 8: Those are two very different things. I think Donald Trump

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Speaker 8: would be a different person today physically, mentally, maybe had

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Speaker 8: he not won in twenty sixteen. He is like a

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Speaker 8: guy who's running the eight hundred and he made that

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Speaker 8: first lap of a sprint, and now he's not nearly

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Speaker 8: as fast as he was. Maybe that first lap. He's

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Speaker 8: at full on sprint and he knows I can rest

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Speaker 8: after I finished that finish line. I truly believe he

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Speaker 8: is a man on a mission. It's an amazing thing

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Speaker 8: to see. Yesterday morning I watched as he did a

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Speaker 8: press conference live with all the positive news, the hostage,

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Speaker 8: the last hostage released to the United States, who was alive,

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Speaker 8: the Russia Ukraine cease fire very close, having negotiated the

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Speaker 8: India Pakistan ceasefire through jd vance, the China teriff deal,

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Speaker 8: ninety day reprieve in Switzerland. Over the weekend, he hopped

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Speaker 8: Air Force one, flew to Jeddah, arrives there to a

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Speaker 8: hero's welcome, does his formal duties. That's exhausting. And this

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Speaker 8: morning at ten thirty, as I was on the air

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Speaker 8: at ten thirty three, he began to speak at the

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Speaker 8: Saudi US investment for him, when did he sleep? He

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Speaker 8: says he's troubles was sleeping. When did he sleep?

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Speaker 5: I ask?

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Speaker 8: And what's amazing is I've flown to the Middle East,

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Speaker 8: I've flown to Europe, I've fown to India, went to Japan.

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Speaker 8: At Christmas, I'd be laid up and groggy. This man,

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's this is a man who is driven.

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Speaker 8: There's no doubt about that. He is willing himself and

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Speaker 8: all the while, some great news back home. The April

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Speaker 8: inflation numbers are in and they are better than expected.

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Speaker 8: Fox Business.

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Speaker 4: We're coming out a little bit lighter than expected. So

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Speaker 4: we came in at point two percent month of a month.

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Speaker 4: The street was looking for point three, So that's actually

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Speaker 4: Two point three percent is the is the headline number

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Speaker 4: year every year. The streets estimate was two point four,

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Speaker 8: So President Trump took off his January twentieth ten days

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Speaker 8: It's a rolling delay. Grocery prices saw their largest decline

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Speaker 8: in almost five years. What does that mean? Grocery prices

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Speaker 8: have gone back to January of twenty twenty. When Donald

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Speaker 8: Trump was president in January twenty twenty, you would have

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Speaker 8: thought him unbeatable because the economy was on fire. However,

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Speaker 8: You got February, March, and April Ohn. So for all

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Speaker 9: I can't live under this. It's horrible.

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Speaker 8: What's horrible.

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Speaker 9: It's just terrible. It's horrible. Things are not good.

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Speaker 8: What's not good. Here's what's hard for a lot of

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Speaker 8: people in the political bubble to understand. Most people don't

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Speaker 8: watch Fox News, they don't watch CNN, they don't watch MSNBC.

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Speaker 8: They don't know who all these politicians are, and they

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Speaker 8: lesser human beings. Some of them still vote. You know

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Speaker 8: what they do know if they can meet their car

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Speaker 8: the family can have breakfast. By those metrics, Donald Trump

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Speaker 8: is winning. But the average person isn't getting that information

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Speaker 8: And that's where we are. That's where we are. Things

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Speaker 8: are getting better by the day in this country. It's

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Speaker 8: important that we tell that story because it happens to

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Speaker 1: Listen to the Michael Berry Show podcast if you dare.

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Speaker 8: What if and I'm sure this wouldn't be the case,

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Speaker 8: but what if there were a lot of blacks and

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Speaker 8: That wouldn't happen. We know that wouldn't happen. It can't happen.

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Speaker 8: There's no way it would happen. But what if it did?

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Speaker 8: about it in public? Because there's no way it would happen, right, Well,

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Speaker 8: it's happening in South Africa. In South Africa, there's video

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Speaker 8: after video of people like Julius Malamo, South African politician

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Speaker 8: who's the founder and leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters.

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Speaker 8: Sounds like a nice enough group, huh. It's a far

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Speaker 8: He has been favorably described by Zuma as the future

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Speaker 8: President Trump, claiming it was quote absolute rubbish to say

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Speaker 8: there's white genocide.

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Speaker 5: Huh.

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Speaker 8: And then there's this.

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Speaker 9: Must never be scared to kill and revolution de mind

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Speaker 9: that at some point that must be killing because the

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Speaker 8: Wait, hold on it. So the guy says it is

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Speaker 8: absolute rubbish to say there's white genocide. He's saying that

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Speaker 8: part of this. We got them in chance in a moment,

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Speaker 8: white men, you must die. They chant, shoot to kill,

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Speaker 8: them overnight. You can say I want black empowerment all

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Speaker 9: I'm saying to you with not called for the killing

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Speaker 7: I mean, you'd understand somebody watching that, especially as it

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Speaker 9: It sounds like a genocide.

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Speaker 8: So that's good enough. So let's go now to the

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Speaker 8: You must die, white man, you must die.

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Speaker 8: Ashley Anderson. The most dangerous dangerous political and media figure

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Speaker 8: Yet to do. There we go stop there. The slaughter

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Speaker 8: not racial reconciliation. This is the fantasy of every angry

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Speaker 8: He will kill the whites and drive them from the lands,

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Speaker 8: That's what they are calling for. That's the mentality you

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Speaker 8: An interesting thing has happened. President Trump or his Department

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Speaker 7: Let me put it this way. Nations depend on rules

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Speaker 8: The issue of the movement of people across borders and

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Speaker 4: He just shows me what it's like to be, you know,

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Speaker 5: I call him Ritchen Mirchael Berry.

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Speaker 8: So you're at the grocery store and you're standing behind somebody,

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Speaker 8: Rights are not self enforcing. Privacy, the protection of your

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Speaker 8: So you right, Congress cannot shirk its lawmaking responsibilities. By

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the I mean, it's the IO souron and

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Speaker 8: Luke, we deal with this in so many different ways.

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Speaker 5: Actually, we don't argue that they lack authority. The problem

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Speaker 5: it's Congress shirking its responsibility to actually decide what the

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Speaker 5: law is and to make the hard decisions.

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Speaker 8: Well, there is a very disturbing trend of data collection

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Speaker 8: under the premise that everyone is cheating the irs and

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Speaker 8: we need to and it's ensnared a lot of people.

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Speaker 8: The banking regulation that you can't take it if you

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Speaker 8: take out more than ten thousand dollars the bank becomes

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Speaker 8: a de fact dough agent of the government. And these

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Speaker 8: banks are scared to death because they're regulated. So if

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Speaker 8: someone wants to take out cash to go on a vacation,

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Speaker 8: it's their cash. By the way, they have to be reported,

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Speaker 8: and that spooks people. Well, if you take out just

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Speaker 8: less than that, which we know that that a Speaker

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Speaker 8: of the House at one point did, then you get caught.

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Speaker 8: You get caught for structuring, which is attempting to you know, uh,

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Speaker 8: maneuver against this regulation. And it's making people into criminals

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Speaker 8: for simply not wanting to be on government databases, and

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Speaker 8: that's not in and of itself a crime.

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Speaker 5: Well, and you may also be aware that Fennsend which

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Speaker 5: is of course the sub agency within the Department of

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Speaker 5: Treasury that that's responsible for the rule we're suing about.

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Speaker 5: But they recently finalized issued orders requiring reporting, requiring your

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Speaker 5: banks to report any you know, withdrawal from an ATM

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Speaker 5: of as little as two hundred dollars within certain counties

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Speaker 5: in Texas near the border, so it doesn't even necessarily

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Speaker 5: have to be a large transaction. Their assertion and authority

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Speaker 5: here is that they can essentially require reporting of any

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Speaker 5: suspicious transaction and apparently you know what is suspicious that's

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Speaker 5: in the eye of the beholder. That's a blank check

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Speaker 5: of power for the agency to require reports on literally anything,

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Speaker 5: and it doesn't just as noted in our lawsuit, it

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Speaker 5: doesn't just have to be transactions coming out of your bank.

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Speaker 5: They have authority to require any business in the United

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Speaker 5: States to file reports and to follow whatever procedures for

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Speaker 5: gathering and collecting and reporting information that they think is

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Speaker 5: going to ultimately be helpful for any sort of law

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Speaker 5: enforcement activities. And by the way, that's not just talking

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Speaker 5: about criminal things like money laundering. Their authority is they

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Speaker 5: can require reports on anything that might help with even

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Speaker 5: uncovering regulatory violations for civil issues, EPA, Army Corps, what

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Speaker 5: you name it. There. You can't move a stone in

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Speaker 5: the United States of America without implicating some sort of regulation.

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Speaker 8: Well, there is the snail darter. There is the snail darter.

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Speaker 8: Luke Wake, we just had one segment book for you.

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Speaker 8: Thank you very much. You guys at Pacific Legal Foundation

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Speaker 8: do great work. I encourage folks to learn more about them.

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Speaker 8: Some of you are going to want to support them,

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Speaker 8: even if it's a little bit per month. We need

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Speaker 8: folks out there bringing these cases, lawyers committing to advocacy

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Speaker 8: like this. This is great work.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Luke, Thank you so much, have a wonderful days,

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Speaker 5: regular thank you and good night,