WEBVTT - Week 13 NFL Best Bets (Ep. 67)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, Welcome back to another episode of the Betting

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<v Speaker 1>Pros NFL Podcast. I'm your host, Dan Harris. You can

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<v Speaker 1>find me on Twitter at Dan Harris. Ady back with me,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank goodness, it's whatever. You want to call him. Co

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<v Speaker 1>host whatever. Matt Parral you can find him on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>at Sports Talk Matt Matt. I hope you had a

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<v Speaker 1>great Thanksgiving. I apparently we made a couple of people

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<v Speaker 1>mad because we weren't able to get together and do

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<v Speaker 1>our usual show. But how's our holiday? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>It? Was great? I'm great. I'm excited for the week.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad we took the week off. We dodged a

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<v Speaker 2>bullet and look, I think we predicted it way back

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<v Speaker 2>in the beginning in September when we were kind of

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<v Speaker 2>mapping out what weeks we were going to take off.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was always trying to take off the

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<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving Day week and then week seventeen, which is obviously

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<v Speaker 2>the worst week to bet in in the NFL. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think so far, even though we haven't played as

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<v Speaker 2>perfectly as we would have liked, I think as to

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<v Speaker 2>when we took the week off, that was a good

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<v Speaker 2>week to pass and say no thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, just a couple of things to clarify. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>this one remember you're the other ones, you're in the circa,

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<v Speaker 1>you're super condent. This one only goes through week sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>so we have to take another bye by week sixteen, so.

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<v Speaker 2>We even week sixteen, I would take off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, well we'll figure it out. Well, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>through everything. But yes, you are correct, we did in

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<v Speaker 1>fact move up in the standings by taking a bye week,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what it was. And there were the weird

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<v Speaker 1>There were a couple of weird things, like the Saints.

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<v Speaker 1>Those lines are locked in, right, so the Saints laying

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<v Speaker 1>six and a half to the Broncos were locked in

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<v Speaker 1>before you realize that the Broncos are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>playing with a a QB. So there were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a game or two that we probably could have gone.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it was not a good week for anybody

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<v Speaker 1>last week. But let's get into it for this week,

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<v Speaker 1>because interesting you like this slate, don't you miss you do? Huh?

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<v Speaker 2>I have seven games that I would bet.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well we'll talk about it. I've got I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a few, but I'm not I'm not feeling it

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<v Speaker 1>like crazy, but we'll get into it my usual recommendations

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<v Speaker 1>Pros Matt does a livestream eleven am to noon. He

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<v Speaker 1>talks about his best plays, we talk about props. I

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<v Speaker 1>always give him a couple of my props before you.

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<v Speaker 1>On the night before when I do my projections, and

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<v Speaker 1>again that's really what I do. I do projections for

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<v Speaker 1>every player for our fantasy purposes and that really helps

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<v Speaker 1>with prop bets. And on Saturday Night's late night I

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<v Speaker 1>do a big sweep of them. I go through and

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<v Speaker 1>then I take a look at the props. I try

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<v Speaker 1>to give Matt two or three. I think I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good streak.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you do projections for every player?

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<v Speaker 1>I do projections for basically every player. I don't go

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<v Speaker 1>crazy with like if I was going to rank somebody

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<v Speaker 1>as the one hundred and fifteenth wide receiver, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a projection for them, but I'm not willing to

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<v Speaker 1>like go crazy. But yes, I project every player from

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<v Speaker 1>every game at Oh, how we roll good roll at

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<v Speaker 1>Fantasy Pros, baby, don't. We don't take anything for granted.

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<v Speaker 1>That is why I'm the seventeenth most accurate Fantasy ranker

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<v Speaker 1>in the nation. That's right, man, I don't know sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm up till two in the morning on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's redoing my projections. It's all for you people.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to get see this is I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>to my producer on the on the on my radio

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<v Speaker 2>show today. Yep, you have not been on my radio

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<v Speaker 2>show yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. And it is a big problem in our relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>If you know why I'm salty.

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<v Speaker 2>I need. I need to fix that. So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>fix that next week. We're gonna rectify that because I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It was weird. I was going through and so my

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<v Speaker 2>other two partners in the circuit in the West Gate,

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<v Speaker 2>they do weekly appearances. And like my producer was like,

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<v Speaker 2>so why isn't Dan Harris coming on the show. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know what, it's a really good point.

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<v Speaker 2>Harris on the show. Right, we'll fix that.

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<v Speaker 1>We will think I haven't noticed that, blah blah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you will fix that. So look, last week, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we did not play in the DraftKings contest. It was

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<v Speaker 1>our planned week off, but we did move up. So

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<v Speaker 1>we are basically at I will call it in the

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<v Speaker 1>top forty percent. Now, that's not enough to cash. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the deal. Matt and I are twenty eight and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven on the season, so that's fifty point nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent that is not going to do it in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of actually cashing. But if you look right now, Matt

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<v Speaker 1>in the money right now are sixty percent. Now, if

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<v Speaker 1>we essentially what we need to really do, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen picks left because we've got four weeks. We are

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<v Speaker 1>mandatory one week by so we're going to make three

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<v Speaker 1>more weeks five picks each this will probably be one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. We've got to basically blow it out to

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<v Speaker 1>finish and to finish in the money. But it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>four My guess is uh not? How many? Fourteen and one?

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<v Speaker 1>So we basically can lose probably one game of the

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<v Speaker 1>next three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>We we now go fourteen and one, We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>over sixty percent, aren't we?

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<v Speaker 1>By I don't I think that equals I think that

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<v Speaker 1>equals sixty percent. You out there listening, you check. But

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<v Speaker 1>if we're twenty eight and twenty seven, right, and we

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<v Speaker 1>go fourteen and one, and we're what is that forty

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<v Speaker 1>two and twenty eight? Forty two out of sixty, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do this right now? This is riveting podcasting. Hold

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<v Speaker 1>on forty two out of sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say sixty five percent?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's well, maybe math's right. All right? Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. Maybe I'm crazy. Then you're right, maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>way more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>This is seventy So maybe I'm just.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy, way over. I mean fourteen, we close fourteen, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be up in super content his story?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? All right, you know what I think I did?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I that's right. Okay, Well I don't know whatever. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to do.

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<v Speaker 2>You the math guy, why I have a model?

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<v Speaker 1>Why I have a model. I make sure my spreadsheets

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<v Speaker 1>do it all for me. But yeah, okay, that's my bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, we're gonna go fifteen out of fifteen for

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<v Speaker 1>the next pick, so whatever, God.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people, I'll say this, if we were to

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<v Speaker 2>go fifteen and o the next three weeks, we win

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<v Speaker 2>the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's tell you right now. If we close at fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>and oh, okay, we win the thing. We're not going

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen and oh we're not, just hypothetically, but we we

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<v Speaker 2>win the thing. If we wind up, if we're If

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sixteen picks over five hundred, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>What I did. I know what I did. I put

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<v Speaker 1>in the wrong number of total picks. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>had it totally confused. It's completely my bad. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what we need to do, but we need to

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<v Speaker 1>do better than we're doing. Yes, so let's get started.

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<v Speaker 1>My bad, everybody. I'm better with numbers, I promise. All right, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>as usual, you start us off, start us off with

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<v Speaker 1>the pick. Let's see what we've got what's your number

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<v Speaker 1>one pick of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Week seven games. I like, let's just start with the

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<v Speaker 2>one that I think. I like the number. I like

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<v Speaker 2>the number that we're getting. I like the team. I

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<v Speaker 2>like the matchup, I like the injury situation, and I

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<v Speaker 2>like the historical numbers against the team. The Rams own

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<v Speaker 2>the Cardinals. The Rams are on the road the Ms.

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<v Speaker 2>The Rams are laying less than a field goal, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know that road favorites last week and the week

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<v Speaker 2>before have been death. Totally understand it. Kyler Murray is

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<v Speaker 2>not healthy. Yeah, the Patriots showed it last week that

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<v Speaker 2>without Kyler Murray that team doesn't do anything. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>can have Hopkins all you want, but you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>great dB that can take away Hopkins on this Rams team,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're left with trying to score and run the

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<v Speaker 2>football against Aaron Donald in company. This is a bad

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<v Speaker 2>week for the Cardinals. They're catching the Rams at the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong time. Bounce back spot from the Rams under a

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<v Speaker 2>field goal on the road. I love the Rams last

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<v Speaker 2>two and a half this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you worry what if Murray is healthy? Murray was

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<v Speaker 1>not healthy last week. One hundred percent agree. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know though, whether or not this is an injury that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to linger for the whole season, do we.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, well, it's a shoulder injury for a dude

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<v Speaker 2>who's pretty frail. Yeah, and he's got a rip thing too, supposedly,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's a couple of things. It's mounting, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>that big, and he's got Aaron Donald to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's a bad situation for the Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 2>And historically speaking, the last last year in Week seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>in Week thirteen, it was thirty one seven and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>one twenty four the wins for the Rams.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it makes me a little nervous. It's not it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a game that I'm on one way or another,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a game that I'm What makes me a

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<v Speaker 1>time bit nervous. I agree with you. Murray's shoulder I

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<v Speaker 1>think completely changes. You saw it last week. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>with the way he played against the Patriots. What makes

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<v Speaker 1>me a little nervous. I mean the Cardinals blitz a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what God does under pressure. This is like

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<v Speaker 1>a must win game for the car What are they

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<v Speaker 1>six and five at this point? It's a must win

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<v Speaker 1>game for the Cardinals. I think the Rams are a

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<v Speaker 1>better team, so under field goal, I completely understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it must win for the Rams too, though.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true. Well yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>If they want to win the division, they've got to

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<v Speaker 2>win this game. I mean, these are games they've got

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<v Speaker 2>to have. And Seattle's got the easiest schedule of all

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<v Speaker 2>the four teams left to go in the division. It's true,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's true they've got I mean, if they want

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<v Speaker 2>to win the division and they want to avoid I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not gonna get the one seed, but if they

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<v Speaker 2>want to avoid, you know, not having it going on

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<v Speaker 2>the road, doesn't it matters this year? Or we're going

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<v Speaker 2>the road, but it's better to play at home than

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<v Speaker 2>on the road. Yeah, you got to win this game.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you have to win this game, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put in the maybe category. I will say

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<v Speaker 1>that sixty four percent of the experts on our bet

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<v Speaker 1>analyzer are on Arizona, and I, you know, just tossing

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<v Speaker 1>the game up in the air, I kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a maybe for me. I don't know, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. I could go either way, but I

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<v Speaker 1>did lean Arizona a little bit just because again, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought this would be a game where you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a home dog. I know it's it's two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half point, it's not a big deal. But with how

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<v Speaker 1>much they desperately need this game, with how they blitz,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we're gonna put in the maybe. It's in

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<v Speaker 1>the maybe, So no prom there.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>For my favorite pick, I guess my number one would

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<v Speaker 1>probably be the Pats getting a half a point from

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers. Now number three, what's that?

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<v Speaker 2>It's my number three?

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<v Speaker 1>So we can we just basically put it in yep,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So I really what this just comes down

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<v Speaker 1>to is coaching. I mean, I can throw out everything

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<v Speaker 1>else that's going on. I know Newton's a little banged up,

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<v Speaker 1>so on the Andrew report, that's fine. I know the

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<v Speaker 1>Pats kind of. I feel like we haven't gotten a

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<v Speaker 1>great read on the Pats this year, nobody has. Nobody has.

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<v Speaker 1>But what we do have a pretty good readrun probably

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<v Speaker 1>is the Chargers, who at this point just it's just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the coaching is going to make up for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever happens in this game. They're so we.

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<v Speaker 2>Saw it in the playoffs, right, We've seen it before

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<v Speaker 2>when Anthony Lynn has gone up against Belichick. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>a complete mismatch, and look, they're three and eight. Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Lynz comments this week about the fact that they're not

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<v Speaker 2>making the playoffs. Have you ever heard a coach say

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<v Speaker 2>that in the middle of the year, Now we're done,

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<v Speaker 2>like not, like, well, we need some help. We got

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<v Speaker 2>to win out, Like they's not mathematically eliminated, Like they

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<v Speaker 2>won every game and they went eight and eight, like

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<v Speaker 2>they would have a chance to get in. Maybe not

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not get in, but they have in the conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>and Anthony lynn'z like, yeah, we suck and we're not

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<v Speaker 2>making the playoffs, Like yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I legitimately think back to Rex Ryan's first

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<v Speaker 1>year with the Jets where they lost a game that

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<v Speaker 1>they assumed that they would win, and he originally was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we've been eliminated because he thought mathematically wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, no, you can still go

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<v Speaker 1>if you went out including a game against the undefeated Colts,

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<v Speaker 1>and like eight other things happened, and he was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to happen. We're going to make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got it, and they did, and it was highly

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<v Speaker 1>unlikely that that would happen, but still the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>you you're in it until you're not in it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>But have you ever seen a game bungled like that

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the end of the game, with

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<v Speaker 1>what the Chargers did last week? Matt Like, I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've also never seen a coach down ten

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<v Speaker 2>with two seconds left run the kicker onto the field.

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<v Speaker 2>He had the kicker. Somebody had to remind him. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is where I think gambling came in. Somebody got

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<v Speaker 2>into a zer and said, hey, by the way, the

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<v Speaker 2>line's five and a half. Kick it a field goal.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't cover. Oh okay, justin get back out. They're

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<v Speaker 2>wunna play. He was gonna kick a field goal down ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy is just yeah. I mean, get rid of

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<v Speaker 2>him immediately if you don't don't want to do it now,

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<v Speaker 2>immediately after the year is over, because that is a

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<v Speaker 2>coveted job. That is an unreal job. With Justin Herbert

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there, speaking of prop bets, if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about passing yards for Herbert, I think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>pass all over the Patriots. I think he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>a huge game throwing the football. I just I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots are gonna bend, don't break in the red

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<v Speaker 2>zone and they're gonna hold him the field goals. And

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<v Speaker 2>then on the other side, I think the Patriots are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to move the ball enough and

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<v Speaker 2>run the ball enough. Eckler coming back is a big

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<v Speaker 2>deal for the Chargers. It scares me. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do that. But there are some real ticks and tells

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to what Herbert does, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>Belichick is gonna take advantage of that. I think Keenan

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<v Speaker 2>Allen will just be swallowed by Stefan Gilmour.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Gilmore is gonna take Allan though, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he comes out of the slot. Would be my

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<v Speaker 1>worry about what I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, historically speaking, that's what's happened. I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give credit to I'll give credit to the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>network for this, but the NFL network has the status

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<v Speaker 2>are when these two guys when they play. Gilmore's been

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<v Speaker 2>on Keenan Allen. I think he's got three catches on

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<v Speaker 2>like fifteen targets.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, So well, you know, I mean, look, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that what the Patriots do on defense is they

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<v Speaker 1>figure out where you want to go, and they manage

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<v Speaker 1>to take that away and they force to go to

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<v Speaker 1>your secondary options. Really in the end, they again, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't we're not we don't know what the number is

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<v Speaker 1>for Herbert, and I love Herbert this week. Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing that worries me a little bit is

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you know, the Patriots are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they have the fewest you know, nobody runs and he

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<v Speaker 1>plays against them because they run the ball so much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the clock keeps moving and everything like that. But we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to the prop bets when numbers come out. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>either way, we both like this game. That's why we

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<v Speaker 1>agree on. Let's go to your next one.

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<v Speaker 2>Number two for me, I am going to take a

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<v Speaker 2>number here just like the Rams miles two and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>That number is three for the West Gates. So you

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<v Speaker 2>get a better number here with the DraftKings. And I

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<v Speaker 2>like the hook here with the Texans against the Colts.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe this is the game that you're going to,

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<v Speaker 1>but go ahead. Really, you know, so you like you

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<v Speaker 1>like the Colts, well, I mean here's I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the hook. I agree, and I saw you posted it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you retweeted the number in the circle I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was three, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's three in the Cirkcuts, three and a half

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<v Speaker 2>in the West Gates, three and a half in the DraftKings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I at three I really like And I've

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<v Speaker 1>locked it in at three for Indy actually because here's

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<v Speaker 1>here's the way I'm thinking that you take away Will Fuller.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, have you seen Deshaun Watson's numbers? When you

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<v Speaker 1>take away Will Fuller is there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's big.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are they gonna throw?

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<v Speaker 2>There's a bigger problem. There's a bigger problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>The Colts defense is overrated and without COVID, with with

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<v Speaker 2>the COVID issues that they've got still with guys being out,

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<v Speaker 2>key guys being out due to COVID. I just these

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<v Speaker 2>games in the AFC South have been shootouts. They've been

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<v Speaker 2>up and down, back and forth. Texans are at home.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a three point game, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a hook. I think it's the three and a

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<v Speaker 2>half and take the home dog at three and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>When everyone's gonna be on the Colts, you might by

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<v Speaker 2>the time this game kicks, I expect this to be four,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even four and a half for him. Really yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everyone's gonna be on the Colts, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, and the Colt money is gonna come pouring

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<v Speaker 2>in and everyone's gonna look at because what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone knows the will Fuller storyline. Yeah yeah, and everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna run with this will Fuller. Without Will full

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<v Speaker 2>they stink all they had problems with, you know, cheating

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, big shock, their strength coach got busted,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and now and now everyone's getting busted. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, I just I feel like the storyline's

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<v Speaker 2>going all against what's happening. And I just don't trust

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<v Speaker 2>this indie offense right now because of the injuries that

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<v Speaker 2>they've got and the fact that Rivers is banged up. So,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we don't know it's ever gonna play for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't even know that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, does a toe injury, Yeah, he maybe not,

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<v Speaker 1>but I assume he's gonna be out there. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can give it to any one of those three

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<v Speaker 1>backs and just let them run all day long. And

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<v Speaker 1>I get that they've got problems on the offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I think Kelly is going to come back.

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<v Speaker 1>He's practicing fully at least, But I mean the Texans

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<v Speaker 1>can't stop and run. Bradley Roby's out as well. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know who's gonna stop Pittman when they do throw it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know how the Texans are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to up Indianapolis in this game. And I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Watson is fantastic. Maybe David Johnson comes back

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<v Speaker 1>in this game. But I mean, Kiki q t as

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<v Speaker 1>your number two wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>At Aikins has had a couple of big games. He

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of silent last week, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Two touchdowns last week. That's he said.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of head a couple of ripped the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, a huge game with the Patriots, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just Shaun Watson. I mean, maybe it's more Watson running

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<v Speaker 2>the football, him picking up first down. I thought wet him.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was our thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, I do hate the Texas. I always, I

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<v Speaker 2>always am wrong with the Texans, except for spots like this,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think the Colts. Everybody thinks this Colts defense

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<v Speaker 2>is it's this world beater defense.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like you, I mean, they got there, they

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<v Speaker 1>got the you know, the Roof blown off last game

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<v Speaker 1>against Fighting, so this seems like more of a bounce

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<v Speaker 1>back spot for me, for the Colts and the Texans

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<v Speaker 1>coming off a big win against a putrid Lions team.

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<v Speaker 1>It almost seems like this is a spot to buy

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<v Speaker 1>the Colts, not the Texans.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think and that's why I'm gonna go against

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<v Speaker 2>that theory, because I think everyone's going to be on

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<v Speaker 2>that and everyone's going to pick at the fuller angle.

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<v Speaker 2>So for me, I get three and a half here,

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<v Speaker 2>I get the the hook is a big deal to me.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I like the three and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it less than three and a half. And

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, you think it's gonna keep moving and

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<v Speaker 1>go to four. And I guess I could see that.

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<v Speaker 1>This strikes me as something where if you're right, the

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<v Speaker 1>books will be fine to hold it at where it

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<v Speaker 1>is at three and a half. But regardless, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do it, man, I'm on the either side.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not gonna push. I'm not gonna you know,

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<v Speaker 1>debate it, like to try to be like no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go on the other way. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think the Texans. I don't think they can roll

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<v Speaker 1>without Fuller. Man, I've seen it too often with what happens,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was with DeAndre Hopkins. Now you've got just

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Cooks, who's a talented player. But man, I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't see how they stop the Colts on either side

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<v Speaker 1>without Roby. Roby was like there one guy in their

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<v Speaker 1>secondary they could really sort of maybe take on a

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<v Speaker 1>cornerback even though he hadn't played that well lately.

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<v Speaker 2>Without No why, I don't know, we know why? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, right, we know why? Right? Whatever Will Fuller

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<v Speaker 1>was having, I'll, you know, make me up a little

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<v Speaker 1>cocktail that I'll think doubles. But I'm gonna go to

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<v Speaker 1>my next game. I wonder how you feel about this one, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>because it involves our two teams, and I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's the hook, but I don't care that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going across town. I don't care that Jacobs hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>pressed seven.

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<v Speaker 2>It's late seven. It's on my list.

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<v Speaker 1>For the Raiders. Yeah, yes, so you're okay Raiders because.

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<v Speaker 2>It's eight and a half in uh, it's eight and

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<v Speaker 2>half in the west Gate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Raiders point.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a full point. The line's nine already. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna it's gonna go to ten, and when it gets

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<v Speaker 2>to ten, I'll bet the Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, Sure, I'm totally fine with that. But right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders lank seven and a half points to the Jets. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what is that Agalore has a practice with an ankle injury?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we know anything about?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, when I don't know what, it doesn't matter to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, the only thing that scares me

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<v Speaker 2>is this three all three starting wide altar back to

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<v Speaker 2>the Jets and Sam Darnold.

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<v Speaker 1>They scored three points last week with that exact scenario

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<v Speaker 1>though against the Dolphins. They were all back last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I thought I thought one of them missed last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Now all three were back last week they scored the points.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh okay, y, yeah, I was. I was on the

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<v Speaker 2>Dolphins last week in the circa in my seven look.

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<v Speaker 2>I think at seven and a half, it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>value play for me. It's the right side, I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the line's just gonna climb. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they for whatever reason, it's you know, everyone's gonna remember

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<v Speaker 2>what happened last week. The Jets were the team last

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<v Speaker 2>year that the Raiders went across the Country and got

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<v Speaker 2>destroyed in Week twelve, so they've already gotten that out

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<v Speaker 2>of their system, right, And with how angry John Gruden

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<v Speaker 2>was after the loss to the Falcons, I'd be surprised

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<v Speaker 2>if Derek Carr is not coming out and playing really

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<v Speaker 2>well this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was really That's that's the spot where they

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<v Speaker 1>that that's last year's that's this year's version of last

0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.159
<v Speaker 1>year's game against the Jets, So that sort of that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a perfect spot for them to be angry

0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:50.359
<v Speaker 1>and bounce back. I don't care if Jacob plays. I

0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:52.760
<v Speaker 1>think DeVante Booker will be more than fine. I think

0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.399
<v Speaker 1>the leeble Darren Waller is going to go nuts that

0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, whether or not aguil or plays. Give me

0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Henry Ruggs, give me Hunter Rentro. It's it's not matter.

0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.800
<v Speaker 1>And the Jets are abysmal. They're just a terrible football team.

0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:04.680
<v Speaker 1>If you're telling me, I can get them at close

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<v Speaker 1>to a touchdown even with the hook, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>So great yea, And the full point of value I

0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:10.240
<v Speaker 2>think matters too. That the West skates at eight and

0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:11.600
<v Speaker 2>a half and we're about seven and a half, so

0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:13.560
<v Speaker 2>we're getting a full point there. So I like that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. From a value standpoint and an evaluation standpoint,

0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.159
<v Speaker 2>Vegas is telling you that this number should be higher.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, absolutely. Okay, so we've got two two so far.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. Let's go to your next one.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. I'm going with a play that I've gone

0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.960
<v Speaker 2>back and forth with. But our number is different than

0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.399
<v Speaker 2>the number in the Westgate here, Kansas City's minus thirteen

0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:37.879
<v Speaker 2>and a half under fourteen. Given what's going on with

0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:40.440
<v Speaker 2>the Denver Broncos, and given the fact that there are

0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.960
<v Speaker 2>some real questions right now going on with what the

0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Chiefs are looking like. I like the Chiefs miss thirteen

0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.320
<v Speaker 2>and a half here to just go and put up

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:50.560
<v Speaker 2>a big number and kind of quiet down some people

0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.520
<v Speaker 2>because they had a chance to just annihilate the Tampa

0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Bay Bucks and they took their foot off the gas

0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:59.119
<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason. They've looked bored and uninterested. But I

0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:01.400
<v Speaker 2>don't think Drew Locke it's got much. I don't think

0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:03.320
<v Speaker 2>this defense is going to be able to stop. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is a big rivalry game for the Chiefs at home,

0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:09.680
<v Speaker 2>there'll be some fans there. I just think Kensity destroyed.

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<v Speaker 1>Denver Sunday Nights football, right is it Sunday Night football. Yeah,

0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:14.520
<v Speaker 1>it is right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna lay the thirteen and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't hate it, and my guess is we're

0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:20.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna put it in. I worry a little bit about

0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:22.879
<v Speaker 1>the back door cover because they do have a you know,

0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Kensady does have a little bit of a history here

0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:29.439
<v Speaker 1>of not not you know, not going full out once.

0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Again, it was ever covered in three straight games.

0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:32.720
<v Speaker 1>That what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So, but I think they're gonna hear that. I think

0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:38.280
<v Speaker 2>that chatter is getting loud and people are saying, can

0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:41.119
<v Speaker 2>you play for you know, four quarters? Can you keep it?

0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Can you keep your foot down for all four quarters

0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:47.080
<v Speaker 2>without being bored and disinterested? And look that they only

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<v Speaker 2>had one hundred and one yards in the second half

0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:52.159
<v Speaker 2>of total offense against Tampa. That that shouldn't happened. They

0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:54.240
<v Speaker 2>should have been up by forty in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>As somebody who had the Bucks plus three and a half,

0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I was totally fine with it. But yes, I.

0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:04.359
<v Speaker 2>Got it as totally fine. I'd rather be lucky, that's fine, Yeah, fine,

0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:06.360
<v Speaker 2>But a gift from the referees, like.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard, Hey, you know what, by the way, this

0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:10.960
<v Speaker 1>is a good plug Matt for The Daily Jews because

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite episodes was this past week where

0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:15.720
<v Speaker 1>you were talking about that game and the Chargers and

0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you were breaking that part of it down as well,

0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:19.520
<v Speaker 1>even though I think you won because you had the

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<v Speaker 1>teaser on the train.

0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I won that bet, But both those bets were

0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:24.280
<v Speaker 2>done because I think that there's some real concerns with

0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:27.080
<v Speaker 2>referees not wanting to be the story. Yeah, and so

0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:29.720
<v Speaker 2>they're they're they're petrified. I'm not saying they're fixing games.

0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying they're scared to be the story, right, And

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.320
<v Speaker 2>so they were afraid that they had just done that

0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes pass interference call and that they were going

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:39.199
<v Speaker 2>to be the story because it was going to be

0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:42.120
<v Speaker 2>a field goal by the Chiefs. And then the game

0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:45.200
<v Speaker 2>is over and the primetime afternoon slot no one's watching

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.840
<v Speaker 2>anymore because the game's over. So they want the drama.

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:49.680
<v Speaker 2>And the way you get the drama is to keep

0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 2>that game within ten points until they threw flag flag flag,

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:55.080
<v Speaker 2>and they weren't the story anymore. It was the near

0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:56.639
<v Speaker 2>comeback and the Chiefs began the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I'm gonna put that one in pencil my

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:01.920
<v Speaker 1>guess is that's going. But I'm totally fine with that night.

0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, from a purely personal standpoint, there are a

0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:08.240
<v Speaker 1>few things I enjoy more generally speaking than betting on Mahomes.

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I haven't done it in a few weeks, so that's

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.200
<v Speaker 1>probably why I feel that way, considering they haven't covered.

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:14.000
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I think that's going to be one that

0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.960
<v Speaker 1>we'll put in. I'm fine with that. How do you feel,

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Matt about one of the next ones out. I actually

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:21.679
<v Speaker 1>kind of went back and forth a little bit on this.

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:24.679
<v Speaker 1>The spread though it's under a field goal. I realized

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.159
<v Speaker 1>it's a home dog, so you know, you think about that.

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:31.480
<v Speaker 1>But the Saints minus two and a half against the Falcons,

0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I've kind of analyzed this both ways. I don't think

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 1>that Julio Jones is going to play in this one,

0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.720
<v Speaker 1>because he practiced on Wednesday limited, then he was out

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:42.240
<v Speaker 1>today from practice on Thursday, which isn't usually a good sign.

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 1>And if Jones doesn't play, the team just doesn't play well. Now,

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I think you can throw out kind of what happened

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 1>in that first game two weeks ago, because they didn't

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>even know whether or not Taysom Hill was going to play,

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 1>and so they didn't know how to prepare necessarily. And

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta is playing better, their defense is playing better. But

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<v Speaker 1>to take away Julio Jones, you might take away Todd Gurley.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know if that matters. I just feel

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:05.440
<v Speaker 1>like it's going to be tough for them to hang

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 1>with them when when Sean Payton's kind of got the buy,

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, in his sights at this point. So I

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 1>would take the Saints laying two and a half on

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:13.240
<v Speaker 1>the road against Falcons.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on my list, and I was talked into it

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 2>by Eric Eager from Pro Football Focus because I was

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:21.159
<v Speaker 2>gonna I was on the Falcons till you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so funny, man, I was on the Falcons

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 1>originally too. Yea, that's so funny that you got I.

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Was on the Falcons. And then I had a long

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:28.480
<v Speaker 2>talk with Eric Giger on my radio show about it,

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:29.919
<v Speaker 2>and he basically broke it down like this, And I

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 2>think it's a fair way of saying it if you

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:33.960
<v Speaker 2>go and watch the first half of the game, because

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I was on the over for that game, and it's

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 2>only the second time in the last twenty years where

0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:42.400
<v Speaker 2>one team scored forty three points and the under actually hit.

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 2>So I had forty three points from the Falcons in

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 2>a total of fifty four and a half and I

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.240
<v Speaker 2>missed that bet. That's how bad I have been gambling

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 2>over the last seven days. That type of once in

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 2>a blue moon twice in twenty years type of freak

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 2>show game happens when I'm on the over in forty

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.800
<v Speaker 2>three points on one side scores and the Raiders do nothing.

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 2>If you look at the four to three points, it

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:07.399
<v Speaker 2>was all done basically in the last third of the

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:11.359
<v Speaker 2>game through turnovers and mistakes by the Raiders. So three

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 2>and outs and four turnovers for the Raiders and a

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 2>pick six and whatnot. You have to get that again

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna back the Falcons because their offense did

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 2>not do very much.

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:23.440
<v Speaker 2>So going into this game against the Saints, it's like, Okay,

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:25.679
<v Speaker 2>how big of a drop off is Taysom Hill to

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 2>this year's version of Drew Brees, not the historic Drew Brees,

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.679
<v Speaker 2>this year's version of Drew Brees, And up to this point,

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen that big of a drop off with

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 2>their offense. Different guys are getting the football, but their

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:40.400
<v Speaker 2>offense as a productive as being able to produce, has

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 2>not had that mediocre you know'll fall off the table.

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Taysom Hill can't play the position that people thought was

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:47.479
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen. Here, I'm laying less than a field goal

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 2>and I got the Saints defense and Matt Ryan without

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Julio Jones. Yeah, Sat.

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:53.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it's a little weird because I

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:54.679
<v Speaker 1>don't feel like I have a good sense of how

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 1>to analyze Hill yet this last game against the Broncos

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 1>was you can throw that entirely, Yeah right there, touchdown,

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and it was this game is over, so that that's

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:05.439
<v Speaker 1>really all it was. I'd like to see camarrogant more involved.

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he had barely involved in the past game,

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 1>in all the past couple of games. But I think

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:11.360
<v Speaker 1>when he needs to, when he needs to go beyond

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.760
<v Speaker 1>just the you know, running quarterback that he's been doing

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 1>so effectively. I think he completed eighteen of twenty three

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>in that first game against the Lane. Anyway, he can

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 1>throw the ball, he can throw the ball to Michael Thomas.

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 1>So it just, you know, it's funny because oriusually I

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 1>was also on Atlanta, but the more I kind of

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>dug into it, especially again with the pessimistic reports here

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>about Jones and maybe Girly. I would rather just take

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, a team the same if anything like, I'm

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 1>happy to rely on the Saints defense. It's been playing

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:37.159
<v Speaker 1>well and I think they're gonna have a good game here,

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:38.880
<v Speaker 1>So okay, I'll put that one in. Then that's good.

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 1>We're on the same side. Go ahead, you got any

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:40.919
<v Speaker 1>more that you like?

0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 2>One more and it's I'm fading myself because I want

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:49.919
<v Speaker 2>to take this team because I have been profitable with

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 2>this team. I led this team a lot. It was

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:55.159
<v Speaker 2>my team of the year coming into the season. But

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take the five and a half with the

0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Browns against the Titans.

0:26:58.320 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 2>And I think this is a low scoring I think

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 2>this is a fast moving game. You're talking about both

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 2>teams that are just gonna line up and run the football,

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's Chubb versus h Henry. And I think it's

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 2>a three point win for the Titans. It opened up

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 2>a three and a half. It's been bet up to

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 2>five and a half now to six at some books,

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's climbing. I just think at five and a

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:24.959
<v Speaker 2>half and six, I just think you take the points

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 2>here and take the dog and look for a twenty

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 2>four to twenty win for the Titans.

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Interesting. So I actually this is I don't have a

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>lean whatsoever on this game, Like I really don't. I

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:38.159
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to feel. I knew we weren't going

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to be talking. I frankly, I thought we just weren't

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 1>going to be talking much about this game because it

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>was a five and a half. So I knew you

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>couldn't take the Titans, because I know you hate doing

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>that with any favorite laying five and a half. But

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think that you'd go against the Titans, especially

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>not how they live there. I mean, I don't know.

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:54.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how good the Browns are. This is

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>really free, right, don't they They don't.

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 2>They don't need to be good here. They just keep

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 2>the game close. I don't even win the game. But

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I think if it's three, I'm all over the Titans

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 2>three and a half, I might even take the Titans.

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 2>But at five and a half, I just think it's

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 2>a numbers play for me more than anything, because everything

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.119
<v Speaker 2>is screaming the Titans at five and a half, and

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 2>I think it's gonna be one of the more popular

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 2>plays of the week. Is gonna be on the Titans.

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just I'm fading that feeling. I'm fading that

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 2>momentum because I think the Browns have the ability to

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 2>run the football and keep it close and keep the

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 2>football away. And yeah, the Browns do have a negative

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 2>point differential of twenty one points. Yeah, and the Titans

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 2>on the other side, the Titans are plus thirty nine.

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 2>But I just think that the Browns are giving up

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and eighty six points a game. That's not horrific. Great,

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:44.479
<v Speaker 2>but it's not horrific. They're scoring two sixty five, But

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean they're five and one in home, that three

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 2>and two on the road. Are they overrated at eight

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 2>and three? Of course they're overrated at eight eight and three.

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 2>They're not gonna win this game, but I think they

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 2>can make enough plays given the fact that I think

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 2>both teams are gonna run the ball a lot, that

0:28:58.000 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a chance the game is close.

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I don't hate it. I want to put

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>it on the potential list for sure, because you kind

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>of talking me into it. You're kind of talking me

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>into it. I like where your head is at, and

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it does make a lot of sense. There's

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>going to be so much running in this game, yeah,

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.479
<v Speaker 1>that it's just going to be ridiculous. I don't you know.

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I hate relying on Mayfield just because I watching him

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>miss some of those throws in the end zone just

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>pisses me off. But I will say that I think

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the it's probably going to be a field goal game

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>does make sense, especially you know. I also kind of

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 1>like a little bit selling the Titans after that ginormous

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>win last week. I feel like they could come down there,

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>So I'll put it on the maybe list. I like it,

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>all right? Do you have any that was it? Right?

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 2>That was your last seven? Yep?

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>All right, So now I don't have any others really

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>that I was. I was leaning towards one way or

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the other. So let's talk through a couple of other games.

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's see maybe if by talking it through we like

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>any of them. Let's start, and this is I'm surprised, Matt.

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised that one of the games that you are

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 1>not taking is the forty nine ers getting one and

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>a half against the Bills. I thought you would love

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to fade the Bills in this spot.

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 2>I can't hear I can't touch the forty nine ers.

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 2>I just I what are they?

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, why, don't know, I don't.

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Certain weeks they rise up and it's like, oh my gosh,

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>they actually can run the football, and in other weeks

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 2>they can't tie their shoes.

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so like I I have those start back now,

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>so you know which is big? Yep, that defense. Obviously

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>they got Sherman back, so they got a little healthier

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>at the defense. Now. I don't really I don't want

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>this game, Matt, but if there were a side, I

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>would take the forty nine ers. It's on Monday night

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>football and now they're not home. I don't really know

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>when they're not. That matters, right, they're playing in Arizona.

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what that means. I mean, how

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 2>do you? I mean, I think that actually is a

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 2>good thing for San Francisco to kind of get out

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 2>of there and just be you know, it's it's just

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 2>play the game, that's it. And I think the first

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>game of the two is probably better than the second

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 2>game because just reading the reports that you know, the

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 2>players aren't allowed to be around each other except for

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 2>they can't communicate except for zoom. Yeah, so like I

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 2>guess Kyle Shanahan said to the team that please let

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 2>him know if any players are having mental problems and

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 2>they're breaking down, which I don't think happens in the

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 2>first week, but could happen in the second week. So

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 2>I may be more concerned about next home game than

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 2>this home game. But I mean, it's the Bills on

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>the road. It's the Bills with Josh Allen, who throws

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 2>picks the number. To me, you would think this number

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 2>is higher, Okay, you would think so. I think the

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 2>books right there are laying the groundwork for a bit

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 2>of a trap, and I think everyone comes in on

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Buffalo heavy and then watch San Francis go win the

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 2>game out.

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, right, That's kind of how I thought. I thought,

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>that's possible to be a game where this is this

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the number of the number set at begging people to

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>bet Buffalo.

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 2>In my mind, I mean, maybe it is, but I

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>mean I just to go ahead and take Nick Mullens

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 2>and say Nick Mollins is gonna I mean what I

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 2>am not.

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not pounding the table for this game. I will

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>say though, that I be on the forty nine ers

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>if we want to go on away like if you

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>came in and said the Bills, which of course I

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>knew you wouldn't, I would be like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Not I don't. I don't feel good about that, but

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I do lean the forty nine ers for basically the

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 1>reasons we're discussing. But yeah, too many variables. Okay, how

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>about the Bears who are laying three and a half

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>against the Lions in Chicago.

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I can't even like, like, what do you do with

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 2>this game?

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 2>So the Lions fire Matt Patricia. I mean, sometimes teams

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 2>rebound and playing, Sometimes teams rally right when they.

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that usually generally speaking, their support for the

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>notion that teams play better the first game.

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah than after a coach. Yeah, so maybe it's you know,

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 2>hooray ding dong the Wicked, which is dead. Okay, maybe

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 2>that works right, And maybe there's this like win one

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 2>for the Gipper thing. But I mean the Lions are

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 2>trash yeah, okay, there, their roster is trash aside from

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 2>just the team being coached, like trash, their rosters. Yeah,

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 2>and the Bears. You want me to pick the baar?

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like I'm gonna back the Bears to do anything. Yeah,

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I can't even.

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Like, no, I would, I will be honest that I

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>would probably be okay to back the Bears if it

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>were three or less. Not when you're over three. Because

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>the Bears, I think are going to be able to

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>do really to whatever they you know, whatever the high

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>end of their limitations are on offense, I think they're

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>going to be hit. They're going to be able to

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>hit the high end. I think Montgomery is gonna be

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>able to run all day long. I think Alan Robinson

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>is going to be in for a big day. And

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>for Matthew Stafford. There's not gonna be any Kenny Galladay

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 1>in this game. I guess DeAndre Swift is gonna play.

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 1>There was all the weird stuff this morning about how

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>it sounded like maybe it's not out of the concussion protocol.

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Now it says he is, but he didn't practice with

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 1>an illness. Who knows. They don't have the playmakers. I

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 1>think Chicago wins this game. So if I could get

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>it at a field goal or less, I probably would

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>like that. I don't like it though, overfield goal at

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>three and a half.

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 2>The line is three right now, but not for us.

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Correct the line is three right now the consensus line.

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>If you go to betting pros dot com you can

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>see it. And I do have I do have it

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 1>at three. I have placed a wager, not not the

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 1>larg winder, but I placed the wager at the Bears three.

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it a three and a half. That

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>gets me a little nervous, and I'm certainly not back

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 1>in the lines under any circumstances. Eagles getting eight and

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>a half against the Packers in Green Bay.

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 2>So I have Dave Sheapin, who's a longtime book maker

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 2>who's been on The Daily Juice a couple of times.

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 2>He's great, and he's on my show all the time.

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 2>So him and I went back and forth this morning

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 2>on this game. Because this is given the last two weeks,

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.760
<v Speaker 2>I would not I wouldn't take one of our valuable

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 2>five picks and use this. But this might be worth

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 2>the money play for me because everyone is going to

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.839
<v Speaker 2>be on Green Bay yep. The world will be on

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Green Bay, yep. The number is going to go to

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 2>ten yep. And I'm gonna take the Eagles yep. I

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 2>mean it's eight and a half for us, right, it's

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 2>eight and a half for us. So I thought about it.

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I really did.

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>And if you had come in here, if you would

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 1>come in here and said I want the Eagles eight

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>and a half, that would be in the contest match.

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:11.840
<v Speaker 1>That's where I'm at it.

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm we eat a fourth, So I'm not a poster.

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm telling you, I'm gonna bet this game,

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:17.840
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to bet the Eagles. And and Dave's

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:19.919
<v Speaker 2>Dave thinks something saying He's like, this.

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Is really this strikes me as a game that he

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>thinks that nuts.

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 2>He thinks I'm crazy to go ahead to go against

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Rogers in green.

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Bay like that that's fair.

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 2>And he thinks, like, what are you doing going up

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>against the Green Bay Packers? And you know, given the

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 2>fact that Philly can't stop anybody. But I just think

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:36.919
<v Speaker 2>that this is an Eagles team. I don't like Doug

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Peterson at all. I don't like Carson Wentz at all.

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 2>But you're going to a part of the country where

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Carson Wentz played football college football, and you're going into

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.800
<v Speaker 2>an environment where he needs to go and do something

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 2>to justify his job. And if he takes Green Bay

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 2>to the wire and they lose by a field goal.

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 2>So what I just I think Philly's in the game

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 2>and eight and a half, it is prime for a beat, right,

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 2>prime for a backdoor.

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know that, you know the Eagles, you know

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Wentz right exact. Now, that's that's pretty extenuating circumstances. But yes,

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. And really, the way I look

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 1>at this game is that the Eagles defense is not terrible.

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they can stop the run at the very least,

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>and the Packers can't stop the run. And why I

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.280
<v Speaker 1>realized that Seattle has a better run defense in pass defense,

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:28.399
<v Speaker 1>although they did, I mean, their defense as a whole

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>is getting better right now. But the idea that Peterson

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 1>came out and it was first and five to start

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that game after the penalty, and he threw three straight

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 1>times absolutely mind boggling. I think there's got to be

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>a realization that, like, look, I get that, you know,

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>we want to fix Carson Wentz, but maybe the way

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:48.399
<v Speaker 1>you fix Carson Wentz is to establish a running game

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit with Miles Sanders and everything like that.

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>So I do think they're gonna run run the ball

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 1>a ton here against you saw what Montgomery did last week.

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I think They're gonna run the ball a ton in

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 1>this game. It's going to rain the clock, it's gonna

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>be able to keep it close, keep Rogers off the field.

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I don't mind Philadelphia here. I mean again,

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>this is sort of the same thing. And be like,

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 1>am I really ready to back a team like the

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Bears or the Lions or you like? But if you

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 1>would come and been like, yeah, I'm gonna put on

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:17.439
<v Speaker 1>the maybe list and when we get to the final ones,

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about it, I guess. But gross Bengals getting

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>eleven and a half from the Dolphins in Miami.

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Can't do it with a backup quarterback on the road.

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just kidding. What if it was to it, by

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the way, would it matter? Uh, because it might be

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 1>too you know, he's gonna tell us Sunday morning.

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's the report right now. No, I just I'm

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 2>looking at Cincy more than I am Miami.

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>That's what you're saying.

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that concerned about Cincinnati scoring, Like everybody's loving this

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Miami Dolphins defense, and I just I just don't know

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 2>what the since the offense does. Yeah, it concerns me

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 2>that all of a sudden that they may get you know,

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 2>they may actually be able to put up a number

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 2>or two. So what do we do if they do that?

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 2>If since he's scoring and they keep it and then

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 2>they lose by ten, lose. So it's just it's too

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 2>big of a number for this Dolphins team.

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 1>And oh, I'm not taking the Dolphins, Matt, That's not.

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying. The Bengals.

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not taking either side just there. I'm not fanning

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 1>this game or going anywhere near it. But I do

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:15.839
<v Speaker 1>think if there were a side to take, certainly, if

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 1>TU have played, I'd prefer the Bengals at eleven and

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a half. But I don't know. Eleven and a half.

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:24.439
<v Speaker 1>It's so many points, Matt. I realized that they looked

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 1>abysmal last week, and they got a special team's touchdown,

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 1>so that was one of the reasons why they kept

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:31.760
<v Speaker 1>to close, but still eleven and a half points against

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the team that really you know, you know, if the

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Jets could have scored a touchdown last week, they cover

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:40.279
<v Speaker 1>that ripe a spread, right, So, but I don't want

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 1>to go near it. But that's just where I'm If

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I had to pick a side, I'd go with the Bengals,

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:46.919
<v Speaker 1>particularly if to a starts. How about the Jaguars plus

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 1>nine and a half against the Vikings in Minnesota.

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 2>So who's playing quarterback for the Jets?

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 1>For the Jaguars, yeah, do we know? Yeah, it's Glennon

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:57.359
<v Speaker 1>for sure. For sure, he's been named the starter.

0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:00.359
<v Speaker 2>What is going on with Minshew? Oh?

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Nothing. The coach is just the worst coach in the world.

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 1>He's back being healthy, he's clear to start right here starting.

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Why isn't Minshew playing in this game.

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Because the coach is terrible? I don't I don't have

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 1>an answer for you. Because they they they wound up

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:14.040
<v Speaker 1>losing by two to Cleveland, and maybe he thinks he

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:17.359
<v Speaker 1>wants to save his job by he thinks that gives

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 1>him a better chance to win. I don't know.

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's just it's terrible that uncertainty is large to

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 2>me because what if what if Minshew gets put in

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 2>like the in the first quarter, things don't go well,

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden he comes off the bench

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 2>and he starts slinging it, and then all of a

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 2>sudden Jacksonville was live again, And it's like, uh, oh, So,

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean I would I would lean to the Jags

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 2>if I had to take a side. I would take Jacksonville.

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 2>But I mean I don't like Kirk Cousins.

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>You know this, I do, and I know we like

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>to fade Kirk. This is exactly what now, I don't

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>want this game. Just to be clear, I do have

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 1>them at ten and a half. They's spreading our contests

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 1>nine and a half. I have the Jaguars at ten

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>and a half because this is the fade Kirk Cousin spot. Yes,

0:39:55.719 --> 0:40:00.439
<v Speaker 1>this is the like quintessential fade Kirk Cousin spot. Now

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 1>it's the Jaguars like an historically bad team that I'm

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:06.399
<v Speaker 1>not like, Yeah, let's go get him nine and a half.

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.359
<v Speaker 1>That's great, right, But if you're giving me, especially over ten,

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I am taking that. So my advice if you're listening,

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:13.799
<v Speaker 1>if you can get it over ten and a half. Yeah,

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 1>I do think the Jaguars are gonna hang here because

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:19.439
<v Speaker 1>the Vikings secondary is terrible. So the Jaguars, they still

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:21.959
<v Speaker 1>put up points last week. Hopefully they get Chark back.

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 1>James Robinson is a stud. He's gonna get his so

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I think they'll be able to keep it close a

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 1>little bit here. So yeah, I like him in ten

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and a half. But below ten single digits. I'm just no,

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 1>there are other games I'd rather go with. How about

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the Giants plus ten and a half against the Seahawks.

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 2>Until we know about Danny Dimes and what he's doing,

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:42.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, do we know about him yet?

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:45.479
<v Speaker 1>So I think the expectation is he's going to miss

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:48.399
<v Speaker 1>the game, but he is upping in practice and he's

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>going to travel with the team, so it's possible. But

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I think the expectation is Cole McCoy.

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if he was playing, I take the ten and

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.359
<v Speaker 2>a half, But without knowing what's going on with Dan,

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:01.399
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I can't back either thought of here because yeah,

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Sales at home and I like Seattle, but I think

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 2>their defense is still not that great and I know

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:10.320
<v Speaker 2>that New York defense might get victimized me and everyone's

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:12.360
<v Speaker 2>getting victimized right now by the passing attack for the

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Sales Seattles. So I would like to take the ten

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 2>and a half points if we had Daniel Jones, but

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:19.320
<v Speaker 2>since we don't know about it, it's a no play.

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 1>And even if he plays, I'm not going to feel

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:23.080
<v Speaker 1>comfortable that he's going to make it through that game

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 1>right now because he's it would be dicey for him

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 1>to play, So I agree with you. I would rather

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 1>just stay away if we If he was coming in

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 1>and fully healthy and this was the line, I'd take

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>it and not worry about it. I mean, Seattle always

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 1>plays one score games. That's just kind of what they

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>do with Colt McCoy and the rest of the night.

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't really feel comfortable about that. Yeah, how about

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Washington last two games here Washington plus eight and a

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 1>half against Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh.

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:48.799
<v Speaker 2>If I was going to bet this and take this game, Okay,

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 2>if you were to stay on a table and tell

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 2>me you wanted Washington, I'd go along with it. Yep,

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.760
<v Speaker 2>that's how I would take Washington. I think Washington's defense

0:41:56.840 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 2>is really underrated. People aren't and I think, look, the

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:04.800
<v Speaker 2>the Ravens gave a blueprint for Washington to go ahead

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 2>and copy. And sure you can't script drop passes. I

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 2>understand that, kid, but but I mean, I I think

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 2>there's something to be said there about having having this

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 2>quick turnaround and having your whole world be thrown up

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 2>in the air. Playing now, you know, five o'clock Eastern

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 2>time start on Monday, after playing on Wednesday, and you know,

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Tomlin's really angry, but like, you know, there's not much

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 2>he can do because you can't meet the guys go

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 2>run hills or something. I mean, like, you know, he

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 2>can't do much in the middle of the year with

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 2>all this, all the pandemic problems. Pouncy, we got to

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:40.760
<v Speaker 2>see if Pouncy's if he has if Pouncy has COVID,

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 2>he's out for this game. He's not playing correct. So

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're without your your your your signa caller,

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.320
<v Speaker 2>and you got you know, Chase Young in that defensive

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 2>line and without your center. Oh, big Ben has not

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 2>been moving around all that. Well, you're talking about one

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 2>of the better defensive lines in the entire NFL getting

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 2>after a statue back there at quarterback.

0:42:59.040 --> 0:42:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 2>So if if I was gonna play, if you told

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 2>me you wanted Washington, I would not fight you on this.

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 1>That's actually exactly how I feel. This was one of

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the games where I was like, all right, if Matt

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 1>comes in and says, you know, Dan like this game

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 1>feeling it, I'd be like, all right, yeah, I'll put

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it in. That's fine. And again they lost Bud Dupree.

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:19.360
<v Speaker 1>That that's you know, huge. Yeah, it's big, so I

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 1>don't mind it necessarily. I do feel like the Steelers.

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 2>Are I like I like Washington more than Philly. Okay, Okay,

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:28.800
<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about teams getting eight and a half points

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 2>on the road. I like Washington more than I like Philly.

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, so I'm gonna cross off the Philly regardless

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 1>when we go through our finals and we and we

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:37.800
<v Speaker 1>talk about what we want. But that's fine. I'm okay

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 1>with that last one. Ravens laying eight and a half

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 1>to the Cowboys in Baltimore.

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 2>This is another one, Okay, So you're gonna get Lamar

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Jackson back in this game. It's a Tuesday, Tuesday night game.

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Like what Tuesday night?

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 1>You say this?

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:56.800
<v Speaker 2>So we have Tuesday night football. We have a Ravens

0:43:56.840 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>team that couldn't do anything offensively, But I don't know

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:05.799
<v Speaker 2>what Dallas does. Put it this way, I think I

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:08.280
<v Speaker 2>think Jackson comes back and has a huge game, running

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 2>the ball all over Dallas. I just don't know. I

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know what Dallas looks like like. The reason I

0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:19.800
<v Speaker 2>want to take Baltimore here, but I'm scared to listen

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 2>to you to delay this type of number here. Just

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 2>because I don't. I mean, it's what seven and a half?

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 1>It is eight and a half in the cons Oh gosh,

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:31.840
<v Speaker 1>it's seven and a half right now. If you go

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 1>out there and you're trying to bet it, it's at

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:34.400
<v Speaker 1>seven and a half right now, it's at eight and

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:35.240
<v Speaker 1>a half in the contest.

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just too many points right now for me.

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was seven seven, okay, but eight and

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:44.720
<v Speaker 2>a half screams back door or something screwy happening. Raven's

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 2>making a mistake. Yeah, they're six and five. That was

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 2>their season yesterday, So I mean, losing that was brutal

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 2>they have.

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, you throw out that they couldn't

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 1>do anything offensively. They didn't have Dobbins, like obviously the

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 1>biggest one is they didn't have Jackson. Then they they

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 1>lost RG three, you know, in the other game, not

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:04.359
<v Speaker 1>that he could really do anything anyway.

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Didn't mcsorly start.

0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:08.359
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I don't know with the way he

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:10.399
<v Speaker 1>looked in that game, I know, I mean I think

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:12.959
<v Speaker 1>what they basically thought is, look, it's gonna be RG

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:17.839
<v Speaker 1>three running the exact same offense that Lamar Jackson can run.

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Not as well, but he runs the exact style of

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 1>offense that we run, and so that's what you want

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>to you don't want to, you know, say, like.

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 2>My point was, isn't that what Pittsburgh prepped for? Yeah,

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and they prepared for that offense. So why throw a

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:30.960
<v Speaker 2>curve ball at him and throw out and throw mcsorly

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:32.800
<v Speaker 2>or at least like throw a package or two together

0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 2>and have McSorley out there throwing the football because he

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 2>looked way better, yeah, throwing the football than RG three did.

0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty crazy what RG three is now, right, Like

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>how amazing he was when he came out of college

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and that I was explaining it to my son, my

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 1>second year old, and just trying to He was like

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 1>that guy's not very good, dad, And I'm like, yeah,

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I know, but there was a time where he was

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 1>like amazing, could totally take over. Yeah for me. Look,

0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:58.840
<v Speaker 1>they've got so many question marks, especially as we're looking

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 1>at it now, and we probably won't know by Tuesday even.

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they've got injuries all up, you know, the

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:08.399
<v Speaker 1>offensive problems, but also injury. I mean I think I

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:10.399
<v Speaker 1>didn't I wasn't paying that close attention to that game

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:14.239
<v Speaker 1>by the end, because good it was unwatchable almost, but yeah,

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think, uh, maybe it wasn't a Humphrey

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 1>but Jimmy Smith left.

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, and I thought something too all like every

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:25.319
<v Speaker 2>big name player with the name.

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 1>So it's just a game where I look, do I

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 1>think if you were like you have to choose a side,

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I would take the Ravens at eight and a half

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 1>because I think they're they're gonna have a bounce back

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:35.759
<v Speaker 1>spot eventually, and I just don't think Dallas is very good,

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 1>but not for this contest. Okay, So that's every game.

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:41.320
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about the three that we have definitely

0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:44.759
<v Speaker 1>agreed on. And there's a four four the Chiefs Is

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:46.879
<v Speaker 1>that the fourth? Yeah, yeah, that's fine. Okay, I'll put

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs in. That's fine. The Chiefs were sort of like,

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm penciling it in, but I'm not petting it in. Pats,

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's getting a half point from the Chargers.

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 2>They're really they're getting a half a point?

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Did I You know, I always mix it up half

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the time.

0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 2>I think they're laying half a point?

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:03.879
<v Speaker 1>Are they laying half a point? I think check check

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>our check my messages to you. While I while I

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:08.759
<v Speaker 1>did this. Hold on, I'll look at it right here.

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>The Pats are getting half a point. I'm right, Whatts

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 1>are getting half a point in our contest?

0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 2>They are?

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I am infallible. I make mistakes on well.

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 2>The Patters are now minus one and a half, so yeah,

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:20.560
<v Speaker 2>getting two points of that.

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:24.640
<v Speaker 1>This was a This was a everybody's gonna take the

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 1>patris and they should. I don't care if it's going

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 1>to be a public play because I'm just to give

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 1>me the coaching edge. I'll take the coaching edge, and

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll go home with my winnings. Pats getting half a

0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 1>point from the Chargers, the Raiders laying seven and a

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:39.200
<v Speaker 1>half points to the Jets, the Saints minus two and

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:42.400
<v Speaker 1>a half points the Falcons, the Chiefs laying thirteen and

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:45.840
<v Speaker 1>a half to the Broncos. So we've got one more.

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:48.200
<v Speaker 2>We need a dog, Yeah, we need a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>You need a dog, Okay, So the dogs that we

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 1>are considering are well, the other guys we're considering were

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the Rams laying two and a half against the Cardinals,

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:58.319
<v Speaker 1>which I I don't love completely. So we've got we've

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:00.960
<v Speaker 1>got two dogs. Then to choose from the brown and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay to do this one because I think you

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:04.279
<v Speaker 1>like this one a little bit. The Brown's getting five

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and a half from the Titans, or it looks like

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Washington getting eight and a half from the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have to break that tight because I like

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:15.879
<v Speaker 2>them both the same. I like them both the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you really like the both of the same, because

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 1>it sounded like you liked the Browns a little more.

0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 2>They are. They're on my list of number five. But

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<v Speaker 2>remember why I'm picking. I'm picking because I'm fading myself

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:27.880
<v Speaker 2>on that right because i want to take the Titans.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I've had to, like slap my hand because it's

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:32.920
<v Speaker 2>five and a half and I hate that number in contests.

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:37.080
<v Speaker 2>I want to take the Titans, but everything is screaming Titans,

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 2>and that means we have to take the Browns, or

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 2>at least I do, because I've been This is just

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:44.120
<v Speaker 2>the public's going to be riding this saying Baker stinks,

0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:48.000
<v Speaker 2>the Cleveland Browns are overrated. Titans just annihilated the Colts,

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:50.960
<v Speaker 2>so it's gonna be a big public play. So I'm

0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:53.480
<v Speaker 2>going the other way and I'm taking the Browns. The

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 2>under the radar play will be Washington against Pittsburgh because

0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I think it's either Pittsburgh or no play for most people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And it's it's interesting because this is unfortunate.

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Part of it's like it's like buying high on Washington

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 1>because the big Thanksgiving performance, and I really don't want

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:13.360
<v Speaker 1>to do that. But their defense is legitimate, absolutely legitimate.

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.440
<v Speaker 1>And given the fact that the Steelers are having troubles

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 1>stopping the run after they've lost Devin Bush, oh man,

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.279
<v Speaker 1>this is close. Okay, So this is one and I

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<v Speaker 1>know we don't like to do the mat but we

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:25.879
<v Speaker 1>we gotta let these marinate a little bit.

0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 2>So well, sure, I'm with I'm with swapping out this week.

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 2>It's getting late in the year. I mean that there

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 2>are things, especially on a Monday night COVID situation, if

0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:35.720
<v Speaker 2>there are big issues with Cleveland or Tennessee for COVID,

0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:38.360
<v Speaker 2>we can swept to a Monday night Washington. We have

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<v Speaker 2>the extra day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, So for now, for right now, our unofficial pick,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be Washington. And the reason really is the

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:50.400
<v Speaker 1>fact that I could see a scenario where the Titans

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:55.680
<v Speaker 1>just completely blow the roof off, you know, Henry runs

0:49:55.880 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 1>for two giant, you know, monster runs aj Brown breaks

0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:01.960
<v Speaker 1>a seventy our touchdown early on, and the Browns are

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.440
<v Speaker 1>down fourteen to nothing, and suddenly they're like, oh no,

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:05.120
<v Speaker 1>we can't run this.

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<v Speaker 2>My brain is saying that. I'm telling you no, my

0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:12.280
<v Speaker 2>brain is saying Titan's big. And I'm fighting myself because

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 2>this feels too easy. And when whenever that happens, I

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:17.480
<v Speaker 2>always want to check myself and take the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, I think, uh, well, let's let's put in

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Washington for now as our fifth pick and and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a good mix, a good mix of

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're we're mostly favorites, but it's it's a

0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 1>pretty good mix. And I don't think we're going to

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:33.839
<v Speaker 1>be too public in all these plays, but we'll see, we'll.

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:35.440
<v Speaker 2>See we're going to be public. Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right. As I was looking at it, I

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 1>was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Chief like the Chiefs, We're going you want to go real?

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<v Speaker 2>We did just go take Philadelphia, take Washington, take the

0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 2>take the chance. And the books.

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<v Speaker 1>The books had a huge week last week, right, last

0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:53.280
<v Speaker 1>two weeks. Yeah, so they're due for correct a mini correction,

0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:56.279
<v Speaker 1>right is correct correction? Okay, anyway, look, you guys know

0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:58.399
<v Speaker 1>what we do. We I will I will put them

0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter what our final picks are when we make them,

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:03.400
<v Speaker 1>which is usually Saturday night. I don't worry about anybody

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:05.760
<v Speaker 1>following us or whatever for the if they're in the contest.

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 1>So I'll put that up. Then we'll talk about you know, Matt,

0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:09.919
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about our picks on YouTube dot com slash

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Betting Pros on the live stream Sunday morning eleven am

0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:15.080
<v Speaker 1>to noon. But this is good, and we've got some

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 1>options here if we decide that we don't like. But again,

0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 1>this is the time of the year. You're right, Matt,

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Like nobody could have predicted what happened that the Broncos

0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:24.399
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be playing without a quarterback. Like there can

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:26.399
<v Speaker 1>be developments of course at this time of the year

0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 1>with COVID, But for now, you feel okay with this, Matt? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, very good, So do I all right, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna do it for today's Betting Pros. NFL podcast

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<v Speaker 1>will be back next week. Of course, check out The

0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Daily Juice, Matt's great podcast, and again Betting Pros dot Com,

0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:41.319
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0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:44.160
<v Speaker 1>out Matt's live stream on Sunday morning from eleven am

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:47.080
<v Speaker 1>to noon. Until then, we will talk to you next week,

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<v Speaker 1>same time, same time,