1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A loving husband and father 2 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: gunned down out of the blue. What happened to Jamie 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Think Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. First of all, take 4 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: a listen to this. These are our friends at w 5 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: FAA everything, my partner, my best friend. I just I'm 6 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: not supposed to be widowed at forty eight. You know, 7 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: my daughter's father, the only father she's ever known, was 8 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: they were two peas in a pod. He used to 9 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: call her as a parting cry. I just hope that 10 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: at some point maybe this person can recognize the gravity 11 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: of what they've done. I feel some sort of guilt 12 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: enough to come forward, because, like I said, I feel 13 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: like I'm going through the motions every day. I just don't. 14 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: It's just hard. I just our life together, it was 15 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: every day together, and we loved it that way. You 16 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: were hearing Jamie face wife Jennifer speaking after assistless in 17 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: brutal murder off her husband right in front of her eyes. 18 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: Take a listen to more of Jennifer just walked out 19 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: the door like normal, right out our front door. I 20 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: got about as far as those hedges behind you, and 21 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: he Jamie always walked behind me when I because I 22 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: had the dog. The dog usually go faster, and so 23 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: he'd stay behind and close the door. And we walked 24 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: out the door, and we made it right to the 25 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: house right behind you, and I turned running behind me, 26 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: and I turned around, and then just shooting just started. 27 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: He Jamie Jamie wasn't doing anything. He actually he saw 28 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: the guy and started walking backwards like this with his 29 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: hands out to his side, and the guy just kept 30 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: shooting and shooting. And then he turned around and I 31 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: yelled no because I knew he was coming after me. 32 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: And a neighbor said that they saw him attempt to 33 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: shoot me, but the gun was empty. I was running 34 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: up the driveway and he tackled me and started beating 35 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: on me and taped my hands together, and then I 36 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: think he got spooked by neighbors and got in his 37 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: truck and left. So it seems to me that the 38 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: motive was trying to get Jennifer Faith and murdering the husband, 39 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: Jamie Faith to do it. We're getting a very detailed 40 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: analysis of what happened at a description, and that doesn't 41 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: always happen in a court of law, where you have 42 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: an eyewitness that sees everything. Before we go to our 43 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: All Star panel to make sense of it all. Take 44 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: another Listen to the widow speaking with WFA about the 45 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: man that murders her husband. It was a normal day. 46 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: We walked the dog every day at the same morning. 47 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: We got up, we did our normal good morning thing. 48 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: And you know, we we like that time together because 49 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: our daughter's been staying with us since COVID hit, and 50 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: so it would sets our quiet time before she gets 51 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: up and we just talk in the mornings and so 52 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: and then we got the dog ready and walked out 53 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: the door like we always do. We're actually standing where 54 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: everything took place. I heard running behind me, and I 55 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: turned around to see what was going on. And the 56 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: next day, I don't want to give away too many 57 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: details to just to jeopardize the case, but next thing 58 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: I knew, he was shooting at Jamie and and then 59 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: turned around and came after me and tackled me in. 60 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: We know that property was taken from Jamie, and he 61 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: tried to take property from me as well. And I 62 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: think the neighbors, all of the neighbors at that point 63 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: heard all of the gunshots, and yeah, came out and 64 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: one neighbor had even witnessed part of what had happened 65 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: and came out and I think it spooked him and 66 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: that's what that's what made him leave again. You're hearing 67 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: the widow who was there when her husband is mowed 68 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: down in their suburban neighborhood with me an all star 69 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: panel to make sense of what we know right now. 70 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: First of all, James shell nutt former twenty seven years 71 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: Metro major case and Swatt, now lawyer at shell Nut 72 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: Law Firm dot com. Doctor Jory Crassen, police psychologist's faculty 73 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: Saint Leo University joining us. Karen L. Smith for expert 74 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: host of a hit series Shattered Souls podcast. Doctor Kendall Crowns, 75 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: Deputy Chief Medical Examiner, Travis County. That's Austin lecturer, University 76 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: of Texas and Texas A and m Nicole Parton joining 77 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: us right now. First to you, Nicole Crime Online dot 78 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: com investigative reporter. Tell me about where this happened? Oak Cliff, Texas. 79 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: What do we know, sure, Nancy, North oak Cliff, Texas. 80 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: That's a little suburb area of Dallas, Texas, a community 81 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: known to be safe where the neighbors watch out for everyone. 82 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: Mid century beautiful homes in the area, things like this 83 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: don't happen in this community. It's well loved, like you 84 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: often see people walking up and down the streets in 85 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: the mornings, riding their bikes in the afternoons, walking their dogs. 86 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: These type things don't happen. But it happened to Jennifer 87 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: and Jamie Fee. You know what's interesting about that? It 88 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: was very early in the morning. And Karen Smith, let 89 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: me go to you, forensic expert, and James shell Nutt. 90 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: I'll start with you. James, early in the morning is 91 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: not typically and I'm speaking of statistics. This is not 92 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: just anecdotal cases I prosecuted are covered, but statistically, crimes 93 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: of this ilk, of this genre do not occur at 94 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: seven thirty eight o'clock in the morning. I used to 95 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: tell my investigator we would go out to be delivering 96 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: subpoenas or taking pictures of a crime scene or whatever 97 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: we would be doing. If I was in a high 98 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: crime area, I'd say, there's no let's go in the 99 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: morning because all the dopers are going to be asleep. 100 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: We'll get some great photos, we'll find everybody we're looking 101 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: for because they're all asleep. The point is hard crime, 102 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: it's not typically happening at seven thirty in the morning. 103 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: Why is that shell nutt No, I mean, you're right. 104 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: I mean it sounds kind of funny, but you're right. 105 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean they go, they're in, they're in bed, they're 106 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: in those hours, you know, seven thirty in the morning. 107 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: Think about it, Nancy. You've got people getting up at 108 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 1: that time of the morning. There, they're going to stores, 109 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: going to traffic, you know, taking kids to go do things. 110 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: It's daylight. Lots of people up at that time of 111 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: the morning, of people who are not at work, drinking 112 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: cups of coffee. This is the worst possible time to 113 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: commit a crime in broad daylight on a sidewalk in 114 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: a residential neighborhood. You're so right. I mean, at that point, 115 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: people are taking their children to school, they're leaving for work. 116 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: If you're on on a sidewalk, people are gonna see 117 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: what's happening. Hey, Nicole, pardon what time of the day 118 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: did this happen? Ballpark? You called it between seven thirty 119 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: roslies between seven and eur about the seven thirty mark, 120 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: early am, early in the morning. And Karen Smitha joining 121 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: me forensics expert host of Shatter Souls, listen to how 122 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: Oak Cliff, Texas is described. Leafy oak Cliff is known 123 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: for a mid twentieth century homes, street art and indie 124 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: stores in the charming Bishop Arts district next to five 125 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: Mile Creek Oak Cliff Nature Preserve, Hi King and Buy King. 126 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: It goes on and on, an honest thing, all the parks, 127 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: all the beautiful homes, blah blah blah. My point is, 128 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: who's going to drive up in Leafy oak Cliff, Texas 129 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 1: that's known for its arts culture and start gunning people 130 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: down on the sidewalk. That's very, very out of the norm. Absolutely. 131 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: I mean it sounds like a little slice of Americana, right, 132 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: I mean everybody. It sounds like everybody in the world 133 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: would want to live in a place like this. So 134 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: to have a crime happen at seven seven thirty in 135 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: the morning, yeah, very very forensic person this is It 136 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: makes me wonder, you know, a what was the motivation was? 137 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: Was someone lying in wait? Was it a crazy person? 138 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: These are the things that I would start to think 139 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: about as a forensic analyst at a crime. Then well, 140 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: you know what, I would go with you on the 141 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: crazy person idea, except that they're driving a vehicle now 142 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: in court, an eyewitness identification is going to be shredded. 143 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean the eyewitness is wrong. That just means 144 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: that defense attorneys have found a way to try and 145 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: discredit eyewitnesses. So if there's anything to bolster your eyewitness, 146 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: you better find it, and you better find it quick. Now, 147 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: what we have here is not just her eyewitness account 148 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: of what the PIRP looked like, but we've got a 149 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: vehicle a vehicle crime stories with Nancy Grace. Take a 150 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: listen to our cut nine. This is the widow Jennifer 151 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: faith Against speaking to WFAA. Listen. Truck is absolutely critical. 152 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: Somebody has got to know whose truck this is because 153 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: it was a It's a black Nissan Titan extended cab, 154 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: had a Texas Ranger sticker in the back window, and 155 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: so it was very distinctive from that point. I don't 156 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: want to give away too many other details, but if 157 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: somebody knows somebody who has that truck, there's there's got 158 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: to be somebody who knows somebody who has that truck. 159 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: And even if the sticker is not there anymore, somebody 160 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: who knows someone who used to have a sticker in 161 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: their back window. I mean if somebody could just come 162 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: forward with that information alone, it would be so helpful. 163 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: Right there, it's making me think of Jackie. Do you 164 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: remember the People's Court Mom, a woman, a mother of 165 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: twins and a third child, was dropping off for children 166 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: early in the morning again like this, or actually it 167 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: may have been right after lunch. Jack And she had 168 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: on the back of her hummer a big ad for 169 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: her tanning. What did she do hair hair tanning, Michelle Parker. 170 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: She had this big pink ad decale and they were 171 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: all over her hummer, very distinctive. And when they found 172 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: her hummer, all the details have been taken off by 173 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: someone who must have known her or must have known 174 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: that would be a dead giveaway to finding her vehicle. 175 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: It ended up being parked out in a sea of 176 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: cars in an apartment complex across the street from a 177 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: huge mall, and it sat there for days unnoticed. Then 178 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: we've got let's see the Molly Tibbots case. Everybody remember 179 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: that one. We talked about that a lot, doctor Georry 180 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: Cross and police psychologist and faculties Saint Leo University. In 181 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: that case, Molly Tibbots. You remember the young college student 182 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: that went jogging and just disappeared. Well, when neighbors and 183 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: businesses took out their surveillance video their ring cameras, you 184 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: could see Molly jogging by and then you see a 185 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: vehicle go back, reverse, go forward, reverse, and go back 186 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: toward where she had been running. The vehicle itself didn't 187 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: really stand out, couldn't really get a nameplay from a 188 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: side view, but there were distinctive markings on the side 189 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: of the vehicle, maybe where the paint was scratched, maybe 190 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: it was a fenderman, but something distinctive about the vehicle, 191 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: and that is how they found her killer. Doctor Jorry Crawlsen. 192 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: So your car people think that it's your identity that 193 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: the people go buy in Lamborghinis and vmws and Mercedes. 194 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: It tells a lot more than just who your identity is. 195 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: A vehicle seemed to be an extension of the personality 196 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: of the individuals. In a lot of cases where you know, 197 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: they dress them up. They picked either a sports style 198 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: or a pickup they market, they dress it with wheels. 199 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: So that's very solid evidence that they need to really 200 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: follow up on. Yeah, people's whole identity can be wrapped 201 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: up in their vehicle. Another issue out to you James 202 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: shell Nutt, twenty seven years, Metro Major Case now lawyer. 203 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: In this particular case, we've got a black Nissan Titan 204 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: extended cab with a Texas Ranger sticker in the back window, 205 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: very very distinctive. James shell Nutt. Isn't it true that 206 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: there are entire groups and entire squads of car theft, 207 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: car burglary car experts within Metro Major Case Division. These 208 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: guys know, they have volumes and volumes I had to 209 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: go and wade through them before, like photo albums, like 210 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: family albums of cars. And every other year or so, 211 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: let's just pretend Nissan Titan will change some little aspect 212 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: of let's just say the tail light. They may make 213 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: it four little lights instead of three little lights, or 214 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: they may angle it or something different to the design. 215 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: And these guys in cars and theft they know all 216 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: about that. And that's how they can narrow down the 217 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: make the model of the year right by the details 218 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: they see on the vehicle. Oh, absolutely, it's it's amazing. 219 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: Just you're right. Just the smallest of details can tell 220 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: you one year to another. No, two vehicles produced in 221 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: consecutive years are completely identical. There's always some way to 222 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: tell a difference between these vehicles. Fancy yeah, because I mean, 223 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: what are they going to sell us hey by this 224 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: is just exactly the same as last year's. I mean 225 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: they've got to say something. So I mean, what are 226 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: some of the differences? Shell nutt make it real, bring 227 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: it home man. So sometimes you have, you know, the 228 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: most common or tell white differences. You can't copyment more 229 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: back reels. The grill can change, um, you know, the 230 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: shape of the nose can slightly modify more or less curves. 231 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: You know, the wheels can change you. A lot of 232 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: people don't know this, but when you buy a new 233 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: vehicle year to year, they add additional types of aftermarket 234 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: wheels that you can purchase from the dealership. On these vehicles. 235 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: There are tons and tons of options that change from 236 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: year to year. And you know what's interesting back to you? 237 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: Joy Crossham, for instance, I like to talk about murder 238 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: or my twins, and I like every facet of every story, 239 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: every detail. Do you know, isn't this true, doctor Jelry 240 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: that just like every other way of making a living, 241 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: details of what you do are interesting to you. Nobody 242 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: else cares like You've got a whole squad of men 243 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: and women memorizing how one make a model changes each year. 244 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: They're the cops for a reason. But these are details 245 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: most of us would never notice. Yeah, I see again. 246 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: The vehicles are such an extension of the personality, and 247 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: it's reflected in the behavior of what they do to 248 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: the vehicle, like the markings, the after market wheels, even 249 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: the color and the tinning of the wheat, the windows 250 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: and stuff all reflective of that personality. When you think 251 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: of a vehicle, it's, you know, like in the road racing, 252 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: it's like an extension of your personal bubble. That's the 253 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: way we describe it in psychology. You know, I never 254 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: thought about that as it relates to road rage. That's 255 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: a really good thought. Guys. We're talking about the brutal 256 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: and senseless murder of a loving husband, a father who 257 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: is gunned down right in front of his wife as 258 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: they're walking the dog. How many of you guys do that? 259 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: I do, and I love every second. Yeah, we all do. 260 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: And it's early in the morning, when you least expect it. 261 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they had their coffee with them. Okay, 262 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: So what kind of idea can't she give us of 263 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: the purp take a listen to a cut eleven. This 264 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 1: is the widow w FAA. We just really need some answers. 265 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: Um just there there just isn't there. There isn't a 266 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: whole lot of information that we're getting. And um, just 267 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: for closure, just if somebody knows anybody who you know 268 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: either matches the description. It was a either a dark 269 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: Hispanic or a light skinned blackmail um short stature, about 270 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: five eight, heavy set, very dark eyes, Um you know. 271 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: And then the truck, the Nissan Titan if with the 272 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: Texas Ranger sticker in the back of anybody knows anything, 273 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: please contact the detective. And that's Detective Walton. Okay, let's 274 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: talk about what we're just hearing. Nicole Parton joining me 275 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: crime online dot Com investigative reporter. Give me a synopsis 276 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: of the composite or the identification of the killer. So 277 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: she describes him as a short, heavy set, dark skinned 278 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: man wearing a dark ski mask, dark clothes. In one description, 279 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: she says that she sees really dark piercing eyes, and 280 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: she continues to reiterate that he was of shorter statute, 281 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: kind of heavy set, all dressed in very dark clothing, 282 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: and we also have the neighbor's description, and the neighbor 283 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: says the same thing, she sees this man fleeing in 284 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: very dark clothes, dark ski mask, short, heavy set gentleman. 285 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace to doctor Kendall Crown's joining me, 286 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: the Deputy Chief Medical Examiner, Travis County, Texas. Doctor Crowns, 287 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: you now know of the injury sustained by the husband, 288 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: Jamie faith husband and father. I might add, would he 289 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: have suffered? Would he have known what was happening to him? 290 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: Or was he killed immediately? So from report he was 291 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: shot six times, twice in the head, twice in the chest, 292 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: and once in the groin, So they the guns have 293 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: one of the head would more than likely and his 294 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: life fairly immediately, depending on what they exactly hit. But 295 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: usually gunshot went to the head, take the person out 296 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: quite quickly, or at least rendered them unconscious until they 297 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: bleed out. Doctor Kendall Crowns, is there anything that makes 298 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: us know that he was shot in the head first. 299 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: I know, there's no way you can know which injury 300 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: came first. It's just there's no test you can do 301 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: or no evidence on the body that says, oh, this 302 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: one definitively came first, so he could have been shot 303 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: in the groin. That the chests and the head. You 304 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: just you wouldn't know, guys, takless of our cut one. 305 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: This is our friend, Maria Guerrero k X as this 306 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: old cliff neighborhood was startled awake by an all too 307 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: familiar sound. I heard gunshot captured on home surveillance systems 308 00:19:54,880 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: and heard by many. Wow wow, bob, bob, foh about 309 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: nine gunshots. The victim, James Faith, shot multiple times, was 310 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: gunned down near his home along South Waverley Drive. I 311 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: hear the woman screaming for her life, hystericle. It's not 312 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: like a movie. I see their dog running, big old 313 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: pretty dog, so God running. Fin knew you was my neighbors. 314 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: Forty nine year old Faith and his wife, friendly neighbors 315 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: by all accounts, walking their dog every morning, greeting others 316 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: along the way. A motive is not known, but Dallas 317 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: police aren't ruling out a possible robbery attempt. This is 318 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: just a horrific that someone would come out of here, 319 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: and that's cute, you know, this victim here for this 320 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: to happen to them. It can be because they were 321 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: doing something wrong, because they don't know wrong. You're hearing 322 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: the neighbors way in out to Karen Smith, forensic expert. 323 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: He can find her at Barebones Forensics dot com. Karen, 324 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: nine gunshots? What does that tell you? Going back to 325 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: my forensic analysis, Nancy, this tells me it sounds like 326 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: a hit. I mean, it literally sounds like somebody was 327 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: lying in wait for them. Why James face, Why you 328 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: have to go back to the victims. What's their story? 329 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: Do a little victimology? Is there something going on that 330 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: nobody knows about? Or why would somebody target these people? 331 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: They're walking a dog like a double life. But could 332 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: nine gunshots come from one weapon? That's a good question, 333 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: It's a really good question. You know, are there the 334 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: same casings of their casings? Ejective that means it's a 335 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: semi automatic? Nine rounds tells me it probably was, because 336 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: the revolvers only hold a max of six or maybe 337 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: seven if it's the twenty two. But you're dealing with 338 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: a lot of forensic evidence left, it's the scene, and 339 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: that is a whole lot of gunshots for one victim, Nancy, 340 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. So if there are nine gunshots 341 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: fire from one gun, what kind of gun are we 342 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: talking about? Or do believe the perp had two guns 343 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: double fisted like in the Alex Murnogu shooting of his 344 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: wife and son. Two weapons used. So what kind of 345 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: gun would use? Would have nine bullets in one gun? 346 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: That's my question? A semi automatic? So we got a 347 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: guy trowing in neighborhood with a semi Take a listen 348 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: to cut two this year. Reporter Tiffany Lou at WFAA. 349 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: On Friday morning in Oak Cliff, a husband and wife 350 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: took their dog on a walk like they always do. 351 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: That would be their last walk together. Dallas police say 352 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: the couple was approached by a man in a mask 353 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: on Waverley. He shot and killed forty nine year old 354 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: James Faith. His wife tells me he went by the 355 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: nickname Jamie. Typically that's not how robberies occur. Typically they 356 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: just want your property. No one goes to that extreme. 357 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: Police say the suspect tried duct taping the woman's hands 358 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: together to steal the jewelry off her fingers, and they 359 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: say he may have been trying to abduct her at 360 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: a mask on she believed it was a Latin male 361 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: heavy set he ran off when she screams for help. 362 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: They believe he left in a black niece on Titan 363 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: with a Texas Ranger sticker on the back window. So 364 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: I'm asking the public to help us out. So as 365 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: you're a Karen Smith, Why him? Why her? Was the 366 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: husband leading some type of double life? What do we 367 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: know about him? Take a listen to our cut three. 368 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: This is Tiffany and Leo again w FAA. Police are 369 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: desperate to find the killer who took the life of 370 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: Jamie Faith. Homicides are horrible. It's one of the worst 371 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: times that you can commit and what it does to 372 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: the family, you really just have no idea how it 373 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: just tears the family up. Through go fund Me, neighbors 374 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: are raising money to support his family. He was a 375 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: technology director at American Airlines. His wife is devastated. She 376 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: tells me he was her best friend. He was the 377 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: best husband and best father anyone could ask for. Man 378 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: with an awesome job technology director at American Airlines. He 379 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: was pulling announced some money, she says. Amazing husband, amazing father, 380 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: best for Let's hear it from the horse's mouth. Take 381 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: a Listen to her speaking to Alec Rosier w FAA 382 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: amazingly carrying very kind. Fifteen years together. He would give 383 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: you the shirt off his back. Now nearly two months apart. 384 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: He worked for American Airlines. He was an it director. 385 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: Jennifer Faith told me about her husband, Jamie. It was 386 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: a normal day in the morning. He died October ninth. 387 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: We got up, we did our normal good morning thing. 388 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: At seven thirty. They walked their dog outside their old 389 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: cliff home when they were ambushed fifteen feet from their 390 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: front door. And I turned running behind me, and I 391 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: turned around and then just shooting just started. I was 392 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: running up this driveway, and he talked of me and 393 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: started beating on me and tapped my hands together. Damy 394 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: died at the scene. Police have not made any arrest, 395 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: but they released this picture of the suspect's truck. It's 396 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: a black Nisan Titan extended cab had a Texas Ranger 397 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: sticker in the back window. As the weeks pass, the widow, 398 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: Jennifer Faith slowly becomes frustrated with lack of an arrest. 399 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut five. This is Alec 400 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: Roger WAA. Sadly, this is just one of many high 401 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: profile violent crimes in Dallas, a city with more than 402 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: two hundred homicides this year a low. I'm sure they're 403 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: over extended and spread very thin, but it doesn't It 404 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: doesn't help me in terms of finding the answers that 405 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: I really need in an instant. Jennifer lost so much, 406 00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: my partner, my best friend, and now she waits for closure. 407 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: I just I'm not supposed to be widowed at forty eight. 408 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: You know, she hopes the suspect does the right thing. 409 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: I just hope that at some point maybe this person 410 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: can recognize the gravity of what they've done and feels 411 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: some sort of guilt enough to come for it. Well, 412 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: maybe they will. Speaking of a double life, take a 413 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: listen to our cut fourteen WAA wait for it listen. 414 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: After the murder, police shared an image of the suspects 415 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: truck with a distinct tea in the back window. Somebody 416 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: has got to know whose truck this is. But just 417 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: one day after our interview, court documents show Jennifer texted 418 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: her act saying I woke up in a little bit 419 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: of a panic. Something is eating away at me, telling 420 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: me you need to take the stick or out of 421 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: the back window of the truck. She texted him again 422 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: the next day, writing I really think you to get 423 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: that sticker off as out. At the time, detectives had 424 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: already flown over Lopez's property in Tennessee and found a 425 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: truck they were looking for with a distinct tea in 426 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: the back. Now Lopez is in jay a lot of 427 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: murder charge and Jennifer Faith is charged with obstruction of justice. 428 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: Row okay, Nicole parton, I want you to hear one 429 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: more thing in case you didn't get that. As the 430 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: widow crying and nodding on TV about I hope the 431 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: killer realizes the gravity of what they've done. She's texting 432 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: her sex partner, her lover, Hey, you better take that 433 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: sticker off the back of the car. It's just driving 434 00:27:47,320 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: me crazy, and then writes back again. Time Stories with 435 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Take a listen to Eric at fifty WAA. 436 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: Jennifer Faith stood right here and she cried to me. 437 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: She told me she had no idea who killed her husband. 438 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: Now police say that she orchestrated the whole thing, and 439 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: that's why she's charged with murder for hire. The guy 440 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: just kept shooting and shooting two months after her husband's death, 441 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: Jennifer Faith begged the kill her to come forward. We 442 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: just really need some answers. If anybody knows anything, please 443 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: contact the detective. But now she's facing a murder for 444 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: higher charge. Police say she was having an affair with 445 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: the Rex boyfriend, Darren Lopez, and she encouraged him to 446 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: kill her husband, Jamie Faith. Court documents say Jennifer created 447 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: Gmail accounts under her husband and friend's names, then sent 448 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: emails to her ex posing as her husband and friend, 449 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: alleging Jamie was physically and sexually abusing her. Police say 450 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: he was not. According to the documents, Jennifer wrote an 451 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: email to her ex posing as her friend, saying quote, 452 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: I know I won't feel better about her situation until 453 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: she is out of the house away from him, or 454 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: she lets me put a bullet in Jamie's head. Okay, 455 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: let me understand, because this is getting more and more complex. Okay, 456 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: don't get mad, But I've got to quote Shakespeare again. 457 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: I can't hold it back. Oh what a tangled web 458 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: we weave when first we practice to deceive. So is 459 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: it not enough to murder your husband? Is it not 460 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: enough to drag in your ex boyfriend from wherever high 461 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: school or college, start having sex with him again, then 462 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: convince him to murder your husband for you set it 463 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: up to make it look like you, of course, are 464 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: the one with your hands being taped and you're being 465 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: assaulted and robbed. Then let's just top it off with 466 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: going on TV and crying and so nodding and big 467 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: actually getting angry at police because I haven't solved the 468 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: case yet, trashing the cops. But then to pile on 469 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: fake email accounts. Do people still do that? They don't 470 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: get that you can be caught. It's all coming from 471 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: the same IP address. Okay, every laptop, every iPad, every device, 472 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: let me call them, has an IP Internet Provider address, 473 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: And you can make as many fake names as you 474 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: want to, as many secret accounts as you They're not secret. 475 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: Anybody can find them. Cops can find them with one 476 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: simple subpoena ducas tacum, a subpoena for documents or items. 477 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: A subpoena is for you to come testify. A subpoena 478 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: ducas tacum is a Latin phrase for you bring this 479 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: item in whatever it may be. A journal, a laptop, 480 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: a checkbook, So to top it all off, let me 481 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: just understand this Nicole Parton. She's making fake email accounts 482 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: talking about how she is being sex abused and physically 483 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: abused by her husband that she has killed. That's it, Nancy, Well, 484 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: she's gonna rot in hell, hell burning. The devil is 485 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: laughing or right now he can't wait for her to 486 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: come to dinner. Go ahead, right, you always say. It 487 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: goes back to the phone, the electronics, the computer. So 488 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: Faith had created and used two fake email accounts, writing 489 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: her boyfriend Darren Lopez, forty eight years old back in 490 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: Cumberland Furnace, Tennessee. She's writing him posing as her husband 491 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: as well as one of her best friends. She's trying 492 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: to convince him that the husband is physically and sexually 493 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: abusing her. She's sending him fake photos of fake injuries, 494 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: pretending to be the husband, taunting him, saying things like 495 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: leave my family alone, enjoy knowing that you can't do 496 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: a blank thing about this, sending photos of abuse that 497 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: is not happening. So she makes up fake emails, pretend 498 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: she's a friend, and she dupes her lover, her boyfriend, 499 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: Darren Lopez, into believing her husband is sex, abusing her 500 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: and physically abusing her? Do I have that? Do I 501 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: understand that correctly? That's right. She pretends to be a 502 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: best friend and she pretends to be her very own 503 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: husband writing to the boyfriend. So what do we know 504 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: about how these two met to start with? Where was 505 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: the boyfriend from? Where did they know each other before 506 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: the murder? They met back in high school. They were 507 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,479 Speaker 1: high school sweethearts, college sweethearts. He's in Cumberland, Tennessee now 508 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: Cumberland Furnace, Tennessee. Apparently they were engaged at one point, 509 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: but he decided to join the military. He went off 510 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: to pursue his military career. Now some twenty years later, 511 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: he looked her up and finds her and they begin 512 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: a relationship once again a relationship. Were they having sex, 513 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: that's unknown. We do know that they were corresponding daily 514 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: some twenty Nicole, my sweet Nicole, parton. You think she 515 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: could string a guy along without having some kind of sex, 516 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: even if it's phone sex? You know, go and you 517 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: live there? Because I don't want you to know the 518 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: true nature of people. Of course, they were doing something naughty. 519 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 1: Why is this guy gonna commit a murder? Where they 520 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: got a woman. He hasn't even kissed. No, And you 521 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: know that's what I always say, What is it? Dodgor 522 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: Joy Crossham When women say to me should I get 523 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: back with him? I'm like, you're broke up for a reason. Remember, 524 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: go back in time, Remember why you broke up? Think 525 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: about it. Why do people always go back to the 526 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: high school sweetheart? You know, twenty years could pass and 527 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: you go hit back on the high school sweetheart? What 528 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: is that? There's just something about that history that's there, 529 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: and with the passage of time you kind of forget 530 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: all the bad times and look at the doctor, doctor 531 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: Joy every I've got three women in here and one 532 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: guy and they're all going m You know, I'm might 533 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: gonna ask about you guys going back to your high 534 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: school sere. I didn't even want to know because I 535 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: think so much more of you than that. Yeah, So 536 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: what is something familiar that you think you can trust? 537 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: Is that it? Doctor Jory? That's kind of it. But 538 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, sex is a great motivation, and I agree 539 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: with you. There had to be some kind of sexual 540 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: activity going on here. I mean something, even if it's 541 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: just by phone. And James shell Nutt is so could 542 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: you just surprise me one time. It's just like our 543 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: dog and every other dog on earth. It wants to 544 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: lay down. What does it do? It walks around three 545 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: each time times and it lays down. Do something different 546 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: for Pete's sake. Come on, at seven thirty in the morning, 547 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: you're walking your dog with your latte and some perv 548 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,439 Speaker 1: shows up in an all black car, obscuring his face, 549 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: we think, But somehow she masses get a look at 550 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: him and takes the wife and throws her down, but 551 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: doesn't take anything, doesn't take her, doesn't rape her, just 552 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: unloads nine bullets. Really, yeah, it's very cliche. I mean, 553 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: I hate to simplify it in those terms, but it 554 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: really is. And when you look at this, you know 555 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: when I first looked at this case and looked at it, 556 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, step by step, you know the initial transaction 557 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: where this guy runs up behind this couple, and I 558 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: looked at the whole situation. It just looks odd. You 559 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: can tell right away something's just simply out of place, 560 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: and you know, you start connecting those dots, and as 561 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: an investigator you have to think, well, wait a minute, 562 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: this doesn't fit the mold. This is odd. There has 563 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,479 Speaker 1: to be something more. I need to dig a little deeper. 564 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: And that's what the Hey, guess what shall not? You're 565 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: gonna You're not gonna have to dig two day play. 566 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: Let's hear cut to all. This is reporter Matt Howard, WFA. 567 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: Listen to this. You probably need to sit down for 568 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: this and listen. Police say a masked man shot Janey, 569 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: tied up Faith, and then assaulted her before driving away 570 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: in this truck, which was captured by a witness. Investigators 571 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: now say that masked man was Darren Lopez from Tennessee. 572 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: Who is he? According to this murder warrant, Lopez is 573 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: Faith's ex boyfriend from high school and college. Detectives were 574 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: given permission to search Faith's phone and found she and 575 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: her husband were having marital problems. The warrant reeves text 576 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: messages were also found where Faith described her relationship with 577 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: Lopez as a full blown emotional affair and that Lopez 578 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: had a five year plan of how they would be together. 579 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: Warrant also says that Faith and Lopez texted or called 580 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: each other fourteen thousand, three, one hundred and sixty three 581 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: times between September thirtieth and October thirtieth. That timeframe is 582 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: nine days before and twenty one days after the murder. 583 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: That truck also found on Lopez's property. Police say the 584 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: warrant describes Faith only as a witness and isn't facing charges. 585 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: Everybody keeps saying an emotional affair, So okay, if they 586 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: want to believe that, that's fine with me. Can we 587 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: just talk about the fourteen thousand, three hundred and sixty 588 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: three texts. Fourteen thousand plus texts. Please let me try 589 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: this case, please, because I would take everyone the juicy 590 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: it's the top one thousand and put them on a 591 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: poster board and read them over and over and over. 592 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: Nicole Parton, please tell me she's no longer just charged 593 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: with obstruction. She has this whole plan. Absolutely, no longer 594 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: just obstruction of justice. Now she is being charged with 595 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: plotting to kill her husband. As those phone records and 596 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: computer records begin to unfold, we can see that this 597 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 1: entire plan was masterminded by her, and now she's facing 598 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: a possible life in prison. Well wa wait, wait, wait, wait, 599 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: this happened in Texas. Why are you saying life in prison? 600 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: What happened to the DP? I suppose that's a possibility 601 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: for her because that is on the table in Texas. Man, 602 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 1: you're not kidding. Think about that before he send fourteen 603 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: thousand texs and have your husband capped. Let me ask 604 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: you one last question to Cale Parton. He is builled 605 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: as a loving husband and father. What can you tell 606 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 1: me about Jamie Fate children. They had an adult's daughter, 607 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: a college age daughter who was actually staying with them 608 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: for the time being, and she was inside the home 609 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: as her father was gunned down outside. They had a 610 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: very very close relationship, the daughter calling him her very 611 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: best friend. He was loved by his co workers, by 612 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: his family, and especially by the daughter. Okay, you're telling 613 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: me she was in college. But I know losing your 614 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: dad at any time in your life as a blow 615 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: you never get over. And like this, we wait as 616 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: just as sun falls. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off 617 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: goodbye friend.