1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: The defendable rises faced the jury and hearkened Towitz verdicts 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: David Wisconsin versus Kyle Rittenhouse as the first count of 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: the information. Joseph Rosenbaum. Jury find the defendant Kyle H. 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: Rittenhouse not guilty as to the second count of the information. 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: Richard McInnis. We the jury find the defendant Kyle H. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: Rittenhouse not guilty as to the third count of the information. 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: Unknown male. We the jury find the defendant Kyle H. 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: Rittenhouse not guilty as to the fourth count of the information. 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: Anthony Hubert. We the jury find the defendant Kyle H. 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: Rittenhouse not guilty as to the fifth count of the information. 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Gage cross Courts. We the jury find the defendant Kyle 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: Kyle H. Rittenhouse not guilty here. All right, there you 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: have it, not guilty on all of the charges. We 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: have been through this again and again and again in 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: spite of the you know, nobody wants to pay attention 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: to what the actual law is. Some sad news that 17 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: I see that all over Twitter people are calling for 18 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: unrest tonight, rioting tonight. I saw one one piece of 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: information showing that there are planned protests. I'm sure they're 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: a peaceful because that's the way the medium mob and 21 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: the Democrats describe the summer of twenty twenty riots is 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: peace mostly peaceful. Meanwhile the city's ablaze behind them. I mean, 23 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: you can't even make this up. Dozens of Americans died, 24 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: thousands of cops injured, rocks, bricks, you know, molotov cocktails, 25 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: you name it, they threw it. Laurie Lightweight, the mayor 26 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: of Chicago, is saying we must respect the verdict and 27 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: then goes about trashing the verdict. Part of the irresponsible 28 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: comments that I outlined in the last half hour. We'll 29 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: get to your calls this hour eight hundred nine for one, Shawn, 30 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. We 31 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: bring in our legal panel, Greg Jarrett, David Jone and 32 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: Leo two point zero. Terrell, Leo, your reaction to the 33 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: verdict today. It's everything that all through, all four of 34 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: us said, if we followed the law and the facts 35 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: and the evidence, the video evidence, the eyewitness testimony, the prosecutions, 36 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, star witness also we expected, based on the 37 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: law that it should be a not guilty verdict. Well, 38 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, and I want to commend Fox because 39 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: you've got people like Greg Jared David, myself, Turley Macarth, 40 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: that you got people giving you legal analysis where the 41 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: facts fall. And I think we've done a great job. 42 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: MSNBC and CNN should should take a lesson. They should 43 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: watch us, because we did a very good job on this, 44 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: we analyzed the fact. I think it was very telling 45 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: when I heard the Rittenhouse attorney said that the prosecution 46 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: forgot its obligation for justice and all they were in 47 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: for was winning, and that's not the job of a prosecutor. 48 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: The legal system works, notwithstanding the mob outside, notwithstanding Joy 49 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: Read and CNN and MSNBC. Now, we got a couple 50 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: of idiots, Sean, and I'm sure you saw those tweets 51 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: by the Blasio and Cuomo. They're idiot. They had this 52 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: hitting agenda, want to tear down our legal system, the 53 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: best legal system on the planet, and some I'm happy. 54 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm happy for our legal system as a lawyer for 55 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: thirty years, and I want to get cal Rittenhouse some 56 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: good advice. You have a damn good lawsuit against Joe 57 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: Biden for declamation. First thing, I said, the first person 58 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: I would sue would be Joe Biden, and I'd work 59 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: my way down from there, Greg Jarrett, we predicted all 60 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: of this if the law was followed based on the 61 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: evidence presented in the courtroom. This was not going to 62 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: be a very difficult decision. It was a no brainer. 63 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: But once again you have the usual suspects rushing to judgment, 64 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: are not allowing the evidence to be presented. Due process, 65 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: presumption of innocence all gets thrown out the window for 66 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: political convenience. If Americans actually watched the trial and did 67 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: not listen to the biased, hyperbolic coverage on MSNBC and CNN, 68 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: then they understood completely they not guilty verdicts on all 69 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: criminal charges. The witnesses, the videotape footage, all of it 70 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: corroborated the account given by the accused when he took 71 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: the stand and relived how he reasonably feared he was 72 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: in imminent danger of death or grave bodily injury. That 73 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: self defense. Jerst didn't believe the prosecution's anemic argument that 74 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: the defendant provoked the encounters and forfeited his right to 75 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: defend himself. That was a crock. What saw in her 76 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: was a seventeen year old being targeted and hunted down 77 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: by an angry crowd, shouting get him, kill him. He 78 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: tries to escape, He's pelted with rocks, kicked in the head, assaulted, attacked. 79 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: One rioter threatens to kill him and grab his gun. 80 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: Another tries to bludgeon him with a heavy skateboard. Still 81 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: another advances and takes aim at him with his loaded pistol. 82 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: Only then did Writtenhouse exercise his right under the law 83 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: to defend himself. That's exactly how the jurors saw it. 84 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: Let's get your take, David Chong. Well, give you a 85 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: couple of quick points. Case. The tragedy all around for 86 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: many reasons, but it's an example of the system working 87 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: except for the prosecutorial misconduct, which should be subject to sanctions. Well, 88 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: let's stop there for a second. Let's talk about that. 89 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: Because we had two motions for mistrial, one with prejudice, 90 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: one without prejudice. Now briefs were are expected, I assume 91 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 1: at some point by the judge, and I would assume 92 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: that the judge may sanction the prosecution or worse, perhaps 93 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: what are the judge's options in this case, Well, he 94 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: can file disciplinary charge. Gonna referre to the bar for 95 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: disciplinary charges. I think he's probably gonna let it go. 96 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: But you know, the one thing I want to point 97 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: out to you, I think really must be pointed out. 98 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: You had courageous jurors who put up with the abuse 99 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: outside the courtroom, the threats implied and expressed. They spent 100 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: twenty seven hours over four days. They considered all of 101 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: these accounts. They were presented with lesser included defense offenses. 102 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: They rejected all of that. And people take a lead 103 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: from their leadership. You mentioned the unrest to have the 104 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: president candidate for President United States now President United States 105 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: refer to this as white supremacy was reckless, irresponsible. They 106 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 1: asked him on Friday if he would take that back. 107 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: He refused to answer. That's why I say this case 108 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: is a tragedy on so many levels. This is a 109 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: quintessential self defense case based on all of the factors. 110 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: Leo and Greg mentioned, that's why the system worked. But 111 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: the courageous jurors really deserve great deal of credit here. 112 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, that's important. What do you what do 113 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: you expect now as a bolt of all this Leo 114 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: two point z roll. I mean, if you look on 115 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: social media, the things that are posted, lends itself makes 116 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: me believe that there's probably going to be agitators in 117 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: different locations tonight. And and honestly, the fact that we 118 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: never followed through with the five hundred and thirty four 119 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: riots in the summer of twenty twenty. We had so 120 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: much video evidence of people, you know, the billions of 121 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: dollars in damage from arson and looting, people on video 122 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: throwing bricks, rocks, bottles, molotov cocktails at police officers, dozens dead, 123 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: thousands of cops injured. The fact that we don't have 124 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: a Liz Cheney committee for that, we don't have an 125 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: investigation into that. And in most cities where these riots 126 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: took place, very few if any people were charged, even 127 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: with videotaped evidence because John de Sean very easily. Those 128 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: are Democrats, those are crafts riotings, and they're not going 129 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: to convict their own. I mean, let's be clear, the 130 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: Democratic Party basically approved of all that. You know, you 131 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: didn't mention Kamala Harris funding though the Minneapolis Bell Fund. 132 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: These were Antifa Black Lives Matter that made up the 133 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: base of the Democratic Party, and they justify those riots 134 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: and arsonists. And what has happened is that they're right 135 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: now allows to steal roaming these democratic cities. I think 136 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: the next twenty Farishan is going to be very, very killing, 137 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: because if there's any type of protest, it's being encouraged 138 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: by members of the left. Like I said again, if 139 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: you saw Cuomo's tweet today, if you saw the Blasio tweet, 140 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: they don't accept the legal because they don't accept the 141 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: verdict of all people. Cuomo, the disgrace governor, send me 142 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: out a tweet questioning the verdict. I'm telling you there 143 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: are people who make a living, a living off of 144 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: racial division and dissension, and that's on the left. Let 145 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: me ask all of you, as attorneys, what possible lead 146 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: goal action that Kyle Rittenhouse can take. Now, Interestingly, I 147 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: have Nicholas saman on Hannity tonight nine Easter, and we 148 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: know that he's already settled with a number of big 149 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 1: news organizations, and I got to imagine the amount is 150 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: probably very high, of course, for the non disclosures. Now 151 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: my question is, does Kyle Rittenhouse have a case against 152 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, Greg Jarrett. Does he have a case against 153 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: these people in the media, those people that said he 154 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: was guilty, those people that called him a white supremacist 155 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: and worse. Yes, I wrote a column about an hour ago, 156 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: and I make that very point. At the end of 157 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: the column, it says that Rittenhouse will forever be tainted 158 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: by the false accusations leveling against him. He should now 159 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: sue all of those who slandered him, including a guy 160 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: with the name of Joe Biden who defamed him as 161 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: a white supremacist. What about be what about all these 162 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: people on TV? Yeah, and I make that point as well. 163 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: And he looked. All you have to do is to 164 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:08,239 Speaker 1: the coverage from MSNBC. They characterized him as a white supremacist. 165 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: They outright called him a domestic terrorist who was acting 166 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: as a mass murderer with unmistakable racist overtones. Joy read 167 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: mocked the defendant for his white tears. All of this 168 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: is reprehensible at the very least, But it's hard him 169 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: in a false light, and that's actionable. But wait a minute, 170 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: but it's hard to prove slander and libel. But he's 171 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: not a public figure, is he? Just because the figure 172 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: he's a private citizen. He was a private citizen and 173 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: he did not inject himself into the public arena. By 174 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: joy He was a private Susan And these assertions are 175 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: assertions of fact, not protected opinion under the First Amendment. 176 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: So when Joe Biden calls him white supremacist, he's asserting 177 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: a fact that can either be proved or disproved, and 178 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: it can be easily disproved us. It's slanderous, it's actionable. 179 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: What's your take, David, shown does he have a strong 180 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: case for libel slander against these news organizations and Joe Biden? Well, 181 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: like you said, these cases are always difficult, but I 182 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: think Greg and Leo are both right. Remember Joe Biden 183 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: when he did it, he made it clear he used 184 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: it for commercial and political purposes. Remember he used it 185 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: to advance himself. He used it to advance his candidacy, 186 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: and he made no mistake about it, knowing by the way, 187 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: that there was no evidence. I have to tell you though. 188 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: You know many of the news services, NPR and others 189 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: are calling for civil suits by the families against Kyle Rittenhouse. Well, 190 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, well say that again, David. Oh, yeah, the 191 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: NPR and others are suggesting the families are very upset 192 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: by what happened, and they should sue Kyle Rittenhouse civilly 193 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: and they'll face a lesser burden of proof in those 194 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: kinds of cases. Well, by the way, you do know 195 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: that they that Jerry Nandler is now calling on the 196 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: the politicized Department of Justice to look in a civil 197 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: rights violation. Leo, oh god, I'm DeLine. I'm telling you Sean, 198 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: you know what, Jerry Nadler should be a sham of 199 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: the stuff, should not be charged with the juice. Well, 200 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: why is that not double jeopardy to me? He just 201 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: got acquitted. Why is that not double jeopardy? Well, there's, 202 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: first of all, those are state charges. There federal charges. 203 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: The civil has a different track than the criminal system, 204 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: so there's an argument that he could be brought up 205 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: on federal charges. But come on, that's not gonna happen. Well, 206 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: you know what, and this I think it could happen. 207 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: Greg go ahead. Well, you know the alleged victims there 208 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: were no victims at all because they were the attackers 209 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: are white and the defendant is white. That's that's an 210 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: enormous stress of saving vibes civil rights. But it's classic Nadler, 211 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: who is yeahs a bucket of hair. Last word, David, Sean, 212 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: go ahead. I don't know if you can top that 213 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: but go ahead. Yeah, no, I can't top that. Listen. 214 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: I wish the whole thing would go away at this point. 215 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: I think the country should have learned a great lesson 216 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: from this. Self defense is a vital American principle within 217 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: the criminal justice system. Again, this case is a textbook 218 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: case of the quintessential use of that defense and the 219 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: system working. It's a tragedy because lives were lost. It's 220 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: a tragedy because of what happened to Kyle whitnow's, as 221 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: you said, his life will never be the same again. 222 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: And he's a seventeen year old kid, he's now eighteen. 223 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: But yes, do the right thing. Thank you both, Thank 224 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: all three of you for being one of us. When 225 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: we come back, we'll hit the phones. Eight hundred and 226 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: nine one. Sean is our number. All right, we're gonna 227 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: take calls for the rest of this hour. At the 228 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: top of the hour, we'll have the coverage on the 229 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: media of the mob and how wrong they have been. 230 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: We check in with Cheryl. Well, hang on, let's say 231 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: how to Chris and West Virginia. Hey, Chris, how are 232 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: you glad you called? Hey Sean, I'm a brother from 233 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: another mother. Man, It's been about four years since I 234 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: got to talk to you. How you, oh man, how 235 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: are you my friend? Welcome back? Glad you called. I'll 236 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: tell you what I was doing great there when when 237 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: Trump first got in, we were a little sketchy, but 238 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: that he took over and everything was good and happy. 239 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: Then Biden took over, and here I am back to 240 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: square one, right where I was when I called in 241 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: the first time. Listen, We're gonna win again the country. 242 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: We see the disaster of socialism. But we have less 243 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: than a minute. I want you to get your comments. 244 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: So my point is, the whole reason I gave you 245 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: a call was because I wanted to see if Kyle 246 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: Rittenhouse actually had the ability to shoe Biden himself idiot. 247 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: But since you just talked to Larry and all of 248 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: them guys, it just come to fruition that you know 249 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: he does have that capability. But I just wanted to say, 250 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: first off, if he does have that capability, I wanted 251 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: to take Biden. I think he should take the Blaws Yo, 252 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: and every single one of them guys and girls out 253 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: there that put his name out there, this Glass team, 254 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: take them for every time they can getting shown to 255 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: day just can't step up and let us and say no, 256 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: you're pushing too much. Listen, let me tell you something. 257 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: I think this is very simple. All these people that 258 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: are wrong all these times, it's time that they get 259 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: held accountable. And you know, we have Nicholas Samman on 260 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: TV tonight. I think you're gonna like it. Listen, Chris, 261 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: don't wait four years call me sooner. When we get back, 262 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: we'll get right back to your phone calls, and then 263 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: we'll we'll render our verdict on the media mob's horrible 264 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: coverage straight a hut. Continuing the mission of saving America. 265 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: As we return to the Sean Hannity Show right twenty 266 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: five now till the top of the hour, Kyle Rittenhouse 267 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: not guilty all charges. We'll get into the media irresponsibility 268 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: at the top of the next hour. Joe Concha is 269 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: going to be with us, as well as Kara Roth. 270 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: All right, Lucas Implarida apparently disagrees with me. Let's put 271 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: Lucas on. What's up, Lucas, how are you well? And 272 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call? Um? Yeah, I actually I 273 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: do agree. Politicians should kind of like, you know, wait 274 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: a minute, see what happens, and then maybe make a 275 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: comment that's a little bit educated. I hope it though 276 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: that you would give the same treatment to Trump on 277 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: his comments with the central part five. I think that 278 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: they're just as deplorable as what Joe Biden's were. I 279 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: don't recall. I don't recall what I don't recall. Hang 280 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: on a second, not a real call what Trump said 281 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: and when he said it? H do you know the 282 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: specific timeframe? A. Yeah. He took out a full page 283 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: ad saying that they should bring back the death penalty. 284 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: Those guys ended up being acquitted of all charges and 285 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: the city had to pay forty million dollars plus in 286 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: damages to the ones who were wrongfully accused, and he 287 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: never apologized, never took it back. Well, what's so, what's 288 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: your take on Joe Biden rushing to judgment on on 289 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: the case of Kyle Rittenhouse and referring to him as 290 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: a white supremacist the same thing. I think that there 291 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: it's deplorable. But I'm telling you, like you have to give, 292 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: you have to give equal treatment, and Trump is just 293 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: a guilty and not apologize. I just don't remember the case, 294 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: so I can't comment intelligently on it. Look, I mean, 295 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: was he did this happen when he was president or 296 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: before he was president? I'm asking an important question. Did 297 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: he say it was before president? Listen, I don't like 298 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: people let me, let me speak generally without knowing what 299 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: so you're saying he wasn't president. There's a certain weight 300 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: that you have as a president. And this is something 301 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: that Barack Obama did over and over again, whether it 302 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: be the Cambridge police acted stupidly or trey Von could 303 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: be my son, or the rush to judgment and the 304 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: media all the time. My general rules and I speak 305 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: for myself here, Lucas, is this. You know, there's a 306 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: reason we have been vindicated on the Trump Russia collusion 307 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: steal dossier, FISA application not verified, unverifiable. There's a reason 308 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: we've been right on Treyvon and George Zimmerman, on Ferguson, 309 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: on Baltimore, on UVA, on Duke Lacrosse and all these 310 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: other high profile cases. And the reason, and starting with 311 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: Richard Jewel in my life, is that I don't rush 312 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: to judgment. I don't and I wait for the facts 313 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: to come in and then I make a determination based 314 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: on the evidence and the facts, with the belief that 315 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: people are innocent until proven guilty. I believe in the 316 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: presumption of innocence, and I believe that that that we 317 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: don't do that anymore. And as a result of this, 318 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: when people rush to judgment before any evidence is presented, 319 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: we see the consequences now. Because I did my leg work. 320 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: For example, I mentioned Ferguson, Missouri, I had multiple sources, 321 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 1: many people that confirmed and operated for me that there 322 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: were multiple eyewitnesses that just happened to be African American 323 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: that confirmed that confirmed Officer Darren Wilson's account about Michael 324 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: Brown reaching into the car to try and get his 325 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: gun and Michael Brown charging at Darren Wilson. Now, this 326 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: whole hands up, don't shoot the thing that was perpetuated 327 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: by the media that didn't have facts. In the case 328 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: of Duke Lacrosse, I actually went to the home of 329 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: some of the families, met some of the kids, met 330 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: their parents, and I knew that they were building exculpatory 331 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: evidence that would prove that they weren't anywhere near the 332 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: location at the time of the alleged incident. So you 333 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: know what happens is whether it be Baltimore or whether 334 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: it be Ferguson. What happens is is when people irresponsibly 335 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: rush to judgment, or irresponsibly, in this case, the President 336 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: of the United States calling this kid a white supremacist. 337 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: You know, especially in that position, it's irresponsible, and the 338 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: media's coverage equally irresponsible. But I think what's going to 339 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: happen more and more is what happened with Nicholas sand 340 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: Richard Jewel got wealthy, but he lost his life, Lynn 341 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: Wood claimed, and I don't doubt it that the pressure 342 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: of being accused of being a terrorist destroyed him. Nicholas 343 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: Sandman is going to be a very wealthy kid. He 344 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: already has had settlements with major news organizations. And I 345 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: think Kyle Rittenhouse has a very good case of slander 346 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: and libel against Joe Biden and many other members of 347 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: the media. I can only speak for myself, and as 348 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: much as the lessons that I learned in the Richard 349 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: Jewel case of not rushing to judgment have served me 350 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: well in my career, where I usually turn up being 351 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: right when everyone else is wrong. I did make an exception, 352 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: by the way, in the case of George Floyd, he 353 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: got a guy handcuffed begging for his life, please, sir, 354 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, etc. Anyway, I'll give you the last word. Yeah. 355 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: My main point of calling though, was I forget the 356 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: media for a second. Like it's starting to get the 357 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: it's becoming a very tired argument. But my point is, well, 358 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: you know what, no, no, no, it's not it's not 359 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: a it's not a tired argument. When there are consequences 360 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: to the irresponsible comments. It's not it's relevant. We talk 361 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: about family values all the time, especially on this program. 362 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm a parent, you're a parent. What is a seventeen 363 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: year old doing with a with an AAR fifteen at 364 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: a protest, like, regardless of it's self defense or not. 365 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: The point is I would never ever let my child 366 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: and I would know where they are because she didn't 367 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: even know where he was go to an event. Listen, 368 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: I do do I what? I hang on? I got 369 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: your point? What I advised my kids to be there 370 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: in an environment where we know what's going on, what 371 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 1: had happened prior to this now for whatever reason, now 372 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: we know it was he was involved in removing graffiti. 373 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: We know that he went there to help people that 374 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: were injured. This all came out in testimony. We know 375 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: that he was asked to help protect this, this car dealership. 376 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: Would I advise anybody when when crowds like that gather 377 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: and many people were armed. If you remember it wasn't 378 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: just him. Remember he had a gun point it right 379 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: at his head? Um, Would I advised my children to 380 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: be there? I would not. On the other hand, it's 381 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: that's not what you based this ruling on the bay. 382 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: The ruling is on whether or not the law of 383 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: Wisconsin was applicable in terms of self defense. And it 384 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: was clear the evidence was overwhelming in terms of video evidence, 385 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: witness testimony, and and much more, even the star witness 386 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: of the prosecution. The issue of whether he's there, he 387 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: had a legal weapon, whether you like the law or not, 388 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: like many other people armed there, I I personally would 389 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: try to avoid an area like that at a moment 390 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: like that. That's my own personal view. But he acted 391 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: within the law and that's what was what was on 392 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: trial here, and this is why the jury came to 393 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: the right conclusion. Here. I'll give you the last word 394 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: again one more time. Yeah, it just the event should 395 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: have never happened. Well, the rioting that took place, the 396 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: five hundred riots over the summer or twenty twenty shouldn't 397 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: have happened. I agree with that too. I agree with 398 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: that too, Sean. But well, what wasn't that I agree 399 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: with But I'm telling you, a seventeen year old with 400 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: an air of fifteen should never have been protest like this. 401 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: It should have never happened. Okay, and all the other 402 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: and all the other people that were there too shouldn't 403 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: have been there as well, based on your definition. But 404 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: you know what, we do live in a country where 405 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: we allow freedom of a speech, freedom of expression, and 406 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: it was a legal weapon based on the law. And 407 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: this case was decided on the rule of law. And 408 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: that's just a simple slam dunk. Anyway, I do appreciate 409 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: the call, Cheryl, Indiana. Oh that's right. I forgot Sarah 410 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: Carter's in Kenosha. I'm busy. I'm doing a show here. 411 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: I have no work, Sarah. Thank you for being well us. Sara, 412 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: are you hey? Thanks Sean, thank you for having me on. 413 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: I was listening to your conversation. It's the same conversations John, 414 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: that are happening here in Kenosha, right here on the ground. 415 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: You know, I was. I was talking to some young folks, 416 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: actually citizens here in Kenosha who are really concerned, you know, 417 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: they say, look, we're on our social media or social 418 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: media's blowing up right now. People are saying they're going 419 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: to come to Kenosha and burn it down. That's what 420 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: they're seeing on social media. And that's a real concern 421 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: for people of this community who already been torn apart, 422 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: whose community has been ripped apart last year, you know, 423 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: during the riot. And you're right, people do have the right, 424 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, to come and to protest. We saw that 425 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: in front of the courthouse. Thankfully, it didn't devolve into 426 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: anything worse than what we have already seen over the 427 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: past week, which was pretty calm. Right now, there's not 428 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people in front of the courthouse. Definitely 429 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: more journalists more pressed than there are people. But there 430 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: are talks about protest sparking in Chicago maybe tomorrow night, 431 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: or people coming from out of town. I think the 432 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: important thing to understand here, it's like what happened with 433 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse. There's a lot of young people, there's a 434 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: lot of people moving people in certain directions. We've seen 435 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: that with the media. We've seen people you know, basically 436 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: charging Kyle rittenhouse before he even had a trial, presuming 437 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: him guilty before he even had the trial. A lot 438 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: of people here now are saying, look, we waited it out, 439 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: we had a jury, we had a trial. This jury 440 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: was very thorough. It's over now. Let's move on. Let's 441 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: not make this any worse than they already has it. 442 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: Sarah Carter will be with us tonight. Please be careful, Sarah, 443 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: it's you know, tensions are running very, very high. I've 444 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: been reading the same sweet Baby James has been printing out. 445 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: Uncle James has printed out a lot of the the 446 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: very same things. We appreciate you being there, and the 447 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: great coverage will go to you often throughout the night 448 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: tonight as things are unfolding. I hope nothing unfolds. I 449 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: hope the city's peaceful. Yeah, Sarah Carter reporting for us. 450 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: Cheryl is in Indiana. Hey, Cheryl, glad you called. Hey, Sean, 451 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: Shelvin got didn't have much time. I had three points, 452 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: but the main one was that a lot of this 453 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,239 Speaker 1: I put at the feet of the government. Had they 454 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: started taking care of these riots back when the looting 455 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: and the burning and the killing and all that was 456 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: going on, when it was suppsedly peaceful protest, perhaps it 457 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: would not have gotten to this point. Listen, I missed 458 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: the first part of your statement. What'd you say? Okay, 459 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: I said, I lay this a lot at the feet 460 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: of the government, because had they gotten involved back in 461 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, when all these quote peaceful protests were going 462 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: on in people burning things and killing people, perhaps it 463 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't have gotten to this point. I think that's a 464 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: great point. I mean, we watched police departments stand down. 465 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: We watched city blocks being taken over and called autonomous, 466 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: chaz chop, summer of Love, spaghetti, potluck, dinner zones. We 467 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: watched precincts burned to the ground. We watched the media 468 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: call rioting peaceful, mostly peaceful. We watched Democrats ignore it 469 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: most of it because they didn't want to anger their 470 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: base that was probably mostly involved in those particular riots. 471 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: They only care about the one where they can bludgeon 472 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. That's the only one that's getting an investigation. 473 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: Prosecutors have not followed through and charged people that we 474 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: have video evidence of committing crimes. There's a lot of you. Yeah, 475 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: as I say, I do think, I do think that 476 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: Trump was a little bit there too, but I don't 477 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: think he could have. Either way he went, he was 478 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: not going to be happy. They're not going to be 479 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: happy because if he had stepped in, they would have 480 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 1: said it was overreach, and he not stepped in, they 481 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: would have said it was cowardice or whatever. But I mean, 482 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: somewhere along the line, there should have been a decision 483 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: made that when weapons start coming out and people start looting, 484 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: and people start burning and assaulting people, that's not a 485 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: peaceful protest, not at all. And if you see on 486 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: fake news CNN or MSTNC, it could actually see, you know, 487 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: cities burning behind the reporters, it's mostly peaceful, like the 488 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: city's ablaze and dozens died and no wesles Cheney on 489 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: the commission. Can we ask Liz Chenny's office where whether 490 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: she's gonna have a commission on this anyway? Thank you, 491 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: Cheryl eight hundred and nine for one Seawn. If you 492 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program, Uh, let's 493 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: say hi to Mike Is in South Dakota. Hey, Mike, 494 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: how are you any Sean? Thanks for having me on. 495 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, I got a quick a couple of 496 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: quick questions free here, you know, We've got that unknown 497 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: mail on video kicking Kyle Rittenhouse in the head. And 498 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: then there's the guy that was shot in the bicep, 499 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: the guy that wasn't killed, admitting the under oath on 500 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: the stand that he pointed his loaded firearm at Kyle Rittenhouse. 501 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: Are these two guys going to get church? That's assault 502 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: and aggravated assault in my mind. Interestingly, it's gun safety 503 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: one O one. You never ever ever point a gun loaded, unloaded, 504 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: think unloaded at anybody unless you plan on using it 505 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: in self defense. That's the rule. For the prosecutor to 506 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: do it in the courtroom was mind numbing to me. 507 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: And you're right. The testimony of the star witness of 508 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: the prosecution admitting that he pointed a loaded gun at 509 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: the head of Kyle Rittenhouse. I was blown away. Now 510 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: should he be charged? Probably in not allowed to point 511 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: a weapon at somebody like that. Do I think that's 512 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: going to happen? No. Interestingly, if Kyle Rittenhouse was, as 513 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough said, on a shooting rampage, firing sixty bullets, 514 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: then he would have been killed. But he only fired 515 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: one shot, and that one shot I think I believe 516 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: hit him in the bicep and which stopped the threat 517 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: and he didn't fire again, which tells me he wasn't 518 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: out to kill anybody, but just defend himself. I think 519 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: it ended up helping him, not hurting him. Looks And 520 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: if people were held accountable by the law, did be 521 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: a long laundry list of people, first of all, just 522 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: starting with libel and slander against Kyle Rittenhouse, everybody that 523 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: called him a white supremacist, everybody that lied about what 524 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: he actually did. I think could be subject to a lawsuit. 525 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: The three attorneys we had on David Shoon and Greg 526 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: Jarrett and Leo two point zero Terrell, they all agree 527 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: with me too. And we're going to look at the 528 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: media's reckless coverage when we get back, and more of 529 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: your calls coming up eight hundred and nine one Sean, 530 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program, Brian 531 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: kill me Row also say we'll get his take on 532 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: it coming up later. All right, when we come back, 533 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: the media, the mob, their culpability and can they be 534 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: sued for the reckless statements they made about Kyle Rittenhouse. 535 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: If you're just joining us, not guilty on all charges. 536 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: Full coverage tonight on Hannity as well our final Hours 537 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: straight Ahead and your Call is also coming up.