1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to J dot M, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: What's Up? 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 3: This is. 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: What it is, baby, This is what it is. This 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: is what it sounds like right now. 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 4: Okay, Hi everybody, welcome to J dot L the Podcast. 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: You know, I am here with my seas dot I'm 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: talking about age A Graydon Donsla Pleasant, an accountant for 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: Eliah Saint Clair. 10 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 5: I'm here. What's up? 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: We we are here. 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 4: I'm Jill Scott and we have this awesome privilege. We 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 4: actually have a super fan of our little bit a 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 4: little shell. You know, you know, I tended to move 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 4: away when people say little. I like your little car, 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 4: I like your little house, you know, a little. 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: Stay on the show. I like a little show. 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 4: But really we have a super fan of our our 19 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 4: sweet loving show, J dot IL the podcast. Yes, always 20 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 4: got something to say, always a reaction to everything that 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 4: we're doing and talking about a full analysis, that's right, aga, 22 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 4: you know, actually listening to the podcast, listening to our 23 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 4: thoughts and our confusion and us getting it together and 24 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 4: you know all the things. 25 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: Appreciate that so much. I just saw your bio which 26 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 2: is Ill Royce. 27 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 4: Okay, Ill, okay, this is Royce Hall okay, and now 28 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 4: I want to say your name right because it's so 29 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: beautiful and catch. 30 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: Me if I'm wrong. 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 4: Chen Yelu ali Mayu. Actually, oh, it's so beautiful. 32 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: It's like a beauty for melody. 33 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 4: Voyce Hall Chinelu Ali Mayu is a genre bending afro 34 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 4: futuristic black liberation, soul, funk, hip hop music recording artists, 35 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 4: multi instrumentalist, arranger, composer, MC, vocalist, actor, photographer, sketch artist, 36 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: keynote speaker, and alum of Florida A and M University. 37 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 2: Okay, fam you I mean goodness. 38 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: Just to know that we have somebody listening that has 39 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 4: this broad scope of existing is just so fantastic. 40 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 5: Channy be busy, So that's nice. As you find the time, 41 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 5: that's nice. 42 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, you just love you know, I'm so, I'm just 43 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 6: about to be a jump. 44 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: Yes, it is our pleasure. Wow. So so are you 45 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: you're based in the South? 46 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm here in Atlanta. Yeah, from Sautisbury, Maryland. But 47 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 7: I grew up in tell I c. And moved to Atlanta. 48 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 6: Like you know, most of us ratings do we spend 49 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 6: our time in tilling we moved to Atlanta or Houston. 50 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: So here in how's Atlanta treating you? 51 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 7: Has been good? I enjoy it. 52 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 6: It's a lot different, a lot different than when I 53 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 6: first moved here. There's been a lot of changes, but 54 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 6: overall it's still still good to me. 55 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 7: So we're gonna rock and roll for a little while. 56 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: Longer, beautiful Atlanta and I we we do okay, I 57 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: don't know, I don't know. 58 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: We do all right. And when I when they get 59 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: a chance to go, we do well. 60 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 6: I'll say, come on, next time you come, I will 61 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 6: definitely make sure that you have, you know, a fruitful 62 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 6: Atlanta experience. 63 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 7: Give me something new to take back with you. 64 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 8: I would definitely appreciate that. Royce means that because like 65 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 8: you got one of your jobs, didn't one of your jobs? 66 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 8: Have you doing that for aga in a way? Like 67 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 8: it's weak y'all? 68 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 7: The AGEA on the thirty. 69 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're actually supposed to see each other later on 70 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: in this month. I'm gonna be get in Atlanta performing. 71 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: But of course, you know, we met face to face 72 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: for the first time in Atlanta when I went down 73 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: there for a gig, and you know, we just wrapped 74 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: about the podcast about life in general and just you know, 75 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: really kind of bonded. So I really it was like, 76 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: it was such a cool opportunity to meet up with 77 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: somebody who really listens to the podcast, who really listens 78 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: listens to the podcast, you know what I'm saying. But 79 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: you know now that we have voys here and we're like, Okay, 80 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: Rays is a super fans He's been down since day one. 81 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: He's a day one podcast listener. I just would be 82 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: curious to know, like, what were your expectations like when 83 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: you first came to a podcast, You're like, yo, I'm gonna. 84 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: Listen to this, Like what did you think you were 85 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: gonna get? And then like what did you get get? 86 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 7: Initially? Initially? 87 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 6: And I think I told you this Initially I thought, 88 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 6: you know, okay, we got this platform. Or the first episode, no, Lie, 89 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 6: I sat so still, I held my breath. I was like, 90 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 6: all right, let me see. In the first episode, I 91 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 6: was like, all right, lovely. Second episode, I was like, 92 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 6: all right, I'm in third episode. I mean, but my 93 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 6: first thing was my questions were surrounding if it was 94 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 6: an inclusive space, would there be some intersectionality for somebody 95 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 6: like me who can relate to all of you on 96 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 6: several I mean, immense levels from various points of identity. 97 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 7: But also you know, if it would be an. 98 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 6: Affirming space as it related to the subjects, the topics, 99 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 6: how different identities are spoken of, And so once I 100 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 6: heard episodes that led into that, I was like, you 101 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 6: know what, I'm settling. 102 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 7: I'm sitting and I'm gonna just ride with this. 103 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 5: And I'm curious, when did he realize that. 104 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 7: I think it was around maybe the It was definitely 105 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 7: season one. 106 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 6: It was well within maybe the first I would in 107 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 6: like four four episodes. 108 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 7: I can't remember the episode. 109 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 6: Exactly, but there was one where somebody touched on the 110 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 6: different type of listeners that you all would have and 111 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 6: just acknowledging the broad spectrum of people that you reach 112 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 6: and not limiting that to maybe just what you're used 113 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 6: to on the day to day or your closeness circle, 114 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 6: but just actually extending that type of compassion willing to 115 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 6: connect with other people. That was just very important to me. 116 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 6: Of course, already being familiar with you all that was 117 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 6: of course, that was a general thing, but just to 118 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 6: hear that in this type. 119 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 7: Of space was very refreshing. 120 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 4: I'll just speak for myself right now, like I really 121 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: do want to understand. I want to understand, Like there's 122 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: you know, I hate to sound poetic, geez, but you 123 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 4: know there's so many flowers in the garden, you know, 124 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: there's It's just the list is so complex, you know, 125 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 4: it's not just the simple daffodil or rose or lily. 126 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: It's these wonderful combinations of creation, you know, and like 127 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 4: just trying to grasp it. And we're moving in a direction, definitely, 128 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 4: and I just mean the world, like we're moving in 129 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: a direction where we really could have the whole rainbow community. 130 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: We're really could. 131 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 4: It's right there. It is right there. It's like love 132 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: is the answer to the questions, period. 133 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 7: It is absolutely well. 134 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 6: I think Agan I was talking about liberation as well. 135 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 6: Get ourselves free from upholding those that are actually quite 136 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 6: oppressive and limiting. We can extend that to other people 137 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 6: and just exists together as opposed to imposing or impeding 138 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 6: or projecting those limitations on other people because. 139 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 7: They've been placed on us. 140 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 6: And we just learned how to exist within and of 141 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 6: ourselves and our truth and our beauty and all. 142 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 7: Our different levels and layers. 143 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 6: It'll be absolutely just beautiful when we look at the 144 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 6: variations that surround us every day, because then we can 145 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 6: we can see the landscape that we're living on with 146 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 6: just like a clear rot, like I'm standing in divine energy, 147 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 6: You're standing in divine energy. Once we realize that we're 148 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 6: all created on purpose and in purpose to be actual individuals, 149 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 6: like how boring would. 150 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 7: God or gods being just to say I'm just made 151 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 7: carbon copies? It would just be absolutely boring. 152 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 8: So I feel like, too, what I don't know this 153 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 8: journey that we've been doing on this podcast too, we've 154 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 8: we've also been allowed to make mistakes and we've also 155 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 8: been allowed to learn. And as I was listening to 156 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 8: Roy speaking, I was like, yeah, there's been a moment. 157 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 5: There was a moment moments. 158 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 8: On this podcast where maybe Asia or Jill, one of 159 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 8: us had to say, hey, listen, don't forget about this community. 160 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 5: Don't let's not forget. 161 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 8: And with that, I always say, you know, we have 162 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 8: to allow each other patience in that moment for other people, 163 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 8: because everybody doesn't always. But if there is a moment 164 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 8: where we can say, hey, don't forget and then you 165 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 8: say you know right, and. 166 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 7: You are right. And I've heard that, and I think 167 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 7: it just makes me feel so warm. 168 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 6: We're not heard that when you show, because it's the consideration, 169 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 6: it's the care. 170 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 7: Yeah. 171 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: So, you know, when we started this entire venture with 172 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: the podcast, you know. 173 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 7: We really wanted to speak our truth. 174 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: And in speaking our truth, you know, it obviously was 175 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: a place that we wanted everyone to kind of have 176 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: an opportunity to hear and feel themselves. So to hear 177 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: any person who listened to the podcast feel as if 178 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: that they were safe enough to be themselves and their 179 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: fullness of themselves are listening and feeling and hearing themselves 180 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: in our experience is exactly I think what we all wanted. 181 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: And when I first got to know you know, voice 182 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: and hearing his story, it made me happy to feel 183 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: that a trans man felt very much at home in 184 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: the space where we were because unfortunately, out here we're 185 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: gen xers, we don't always understand or know, you know, 186 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: how to you know, I mean, you know how to 187 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: behave or how to just live and be in community 188 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: with people. And I think so much of the so 189 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: much of the propaganda has made it really difficult to 190 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: be in community because it tells you that it got 191 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: to be this way or that way, when it's just 192 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: about just being present and being thoughtful and listening and 193 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: just and so like being in community is actually not 194 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: as difficult as people make it seem. And so I 195 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: think that in what we tried to do here, that 196 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: was that was where the heart was. So to feel 197 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: that people that that that there was a space where 198 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: people felt the heart, and that that that was a 199 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: great place to start. The rest of it is things 200 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: you can learn, but your heart got to be in 201 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: the right place first, come on. So I think that 202 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: that's always the big issue with us, and then particularly 203 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: in this generation, but I mean across generations, but particularly 204 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: in the generation as people start fussing and carrying on 205 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: about pronouns and this and that and YadA YadA YadA. 206 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: Before that's the advanced class, Before y'all get to that, 207 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: you got to get your heart right. 208 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: Right, Where is your heart? 209 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 5: Where is this? 210 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: You know, where is the space that says that a 211 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: person other black people feel in community with you. You 212 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: can't say that you love black people if other black 213 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: people don't feel safe in community with you. 214 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 5: Hm. You remember that, Royce, That's what I feel like. 215 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 8: I remember you're telling us that you're like, well, what 216 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 8: of y'all, we gotta think about this in a whole 217 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 8: holistic way of all black people, and we wanted to 218 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 8: say space for. 219 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: Black folks, period, period. More real talk after the break. 220 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: Honestly, this late in the season, to have an opportunity 221 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: to talk to you really does kind of like to 222 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: me feel a full circle moment because we've opened up 223 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: ourselves in so many ways this on this podcast, you know, 224 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: and you know, and at the end of the day, 225 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to pretend like we did some great thing. 226 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: We just simply surrendered ourselves to what it means to 227 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: love each other. 228 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 7: And that is is aal act. 229 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a radical act within itself, but it's 230 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: what you should do, y'all. 231 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 5: Know, y'all know how your mama. 232 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: Said, you want me to throw a prey for you? 233 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: You want me to give you a cookie for being 234 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: for acting the way you suppose that. 235 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 5: He's also a good album title. 236 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: But yes, yeah, you know, but we're not asking for 237 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: a cookie. We're just simply saying thank you for receiving 238 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: what it was the intention of what we're trying to 239 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: put out. 240 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am, absolutely keep learning so much all the time, 241 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 4: and it's it's revolution. You know, that's a big word 242 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 4: on a thing, but that's how I feel. 243 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: Often. 244 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 4: There are days when we have these podcasts, Royce, and 245 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 4: I feel like somebody has just taken their hands and 246 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 4: grabbed the center of my forehead and just started pulling, 247 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 4: started pulling apart. 248 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: And and that's what it can feel like. 249 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 4: You know, we are we are very much well, I'll 250 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: I'll say, I'm very much your auntie. 251 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: You know, how old are you? Is that okay to ask? 252 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: Is that rude? I don't know, no, no, no. I 253 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 2: just was impressed that you called yourself an auntie. 254 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 8: I've been calling myself that's me, right, Yeah, that's I'm sorry. 255 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: That's why Blaya's younger than us. She just not She's not. 256 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 8: Asia is younger than me, but that's okay, not even Asian, 257 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 8: I just a couple years apart. 258 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 2: I'm an auntie. I got if nobody else on here 259 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: is the mind. 260 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 8: I am embrace my auntie, especially as I speak to 261 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 8: more of like my sisters from the continent, and. 262 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 5: I realized that auntie is an honor. I'm getting there. 263 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 5: I'm getting there. I'm getting there. 264 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. 265 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: No, I fully embrace ont but I love that come on, 266 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: because we're talking about full millennial oldness. 267 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 5: Okay, yes, the oldest side of millennial. 268 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: Is okay, voice is giving us you know, full on 269 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: like elder millennial energy. 270 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 7: Year. 271 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not talking to a baby. 272 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 7: Yeah. 273 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: My mixtape was on a Cussett. So just just. 274 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 4: So grateful to have you here and this, you know, 275 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 4: super fanning of it all. Like, thank you so much 276 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: for listening and being involved and speaking up. And when 277 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: I say speaking up, I just mean commenting from a 278 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: very genuine place. 279 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, commenting in life. Thank you. 280 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 4: It's helpful for us, Yes, because like they just said, 281 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 4: we're we're just doing one our hearts I most command 282 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 4: us to do. 283 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: You know, I'm good with it. I'm really good with it. 284 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: So speaking of hearts, Royce Tall, what's on your heart. 285 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 6: Really is just the beauty and the liberation of just 286 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 6: showing up for self, because that's the foundation. But then 287 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 6: the way I show for myself and how that extends 288 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 6: into community. I think that oftentimes there's so many limitations 289 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 6: that are placed on us early on. 290 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 7: I often think about. 291 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 6: How just open and brave and courageous and just hungry 292 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 6: most of us are definitely me how I was as 293 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 6: a child. You know, I didn't care if the tree 294 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 6: was too big. I would attempt to climb, even if 295 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 6: I fell out. I didn't care if you know, somebody 296 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 6: talked about the clothing or your hair or whatever. I 297 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 6: think especially toddlers, or that those early years before anything 298 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 6: is put. 299 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 7: Into your mind, disappointment, discouragement, all of those. 300 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 6: Things, we are so open to just living and experiencing. 301 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 6: And so lately I've just been reflecting on just my 302 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 6: child self and showing up with that bravery of my 303 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 6: child self so that I can pour that into other people. 304 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 6: I can share that with other people and it and 305 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 6: not even be a forceful thing. To just stand in 306 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 6: my total existence, my total fullness. And I think that once, 307 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 6: when I'm in that space of reflecting that type of energy, 308 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 6: I'm able to birth something that is just naturally a 309 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 6: part of my mission that we can all share. It's 310 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 6: not about living up to the expectations that are inhumanly 311 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 6: pushed on us. 312 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 7: It's just about being myself. That's it. 313 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 4: I'm just letting it why all over that feels so good, 314 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: showing up for yourself and acknowledging that everything is not 315 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 4: always going to be right. Or perfect or because we're 316 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 4: human beings and we're living life, you know, but honoring 317 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 4: yourself and remembering your inner child, because yeah, we were 318 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 4: fearless and when something was funny, we left, you know 319 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 4: what I mean, as loud as we wanted. We played 320 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 4: for no reason. Like just recalling those things and trying 321 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 4: to not trying, but just actively. 322 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 7: Allowing exactly the breaking the breaking free really all. 323 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 6: About making other people comfortable because somebody made them feel 324 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 6: uncomfortable because of them being in their foods. 325 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 7: And it's just cycle is a cycle. 326 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 6: And once we're able to break those shackles of what's 327 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 6: been imposed upon us, you know, you feel different, you 328 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 6: breathe different, Those expectations don't matter, you know. And like 329 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 6: you said, we're human beings, so not only are human beings, 330 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 6: but where human beings having a spiritual experience, and that 331 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 6: spirit is not meant to be bound or put in 332 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 6: any sort of box, you know. 333 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 7: And we we hurt ourselves so much. 334 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 6: Just trying to fit into that box of acceptance and 335 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 6: being liked. 336 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 7: And you know, yeah, you want love, but the only 337 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 7: way to give love, I. 338 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 6: Wouldn't want somebody to be around me all day, every day, 339 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 6: period and they feel as though the only way I 340 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 6: can be in your space. 341 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 7: Is if I live by some beliefs. Somebody doesn't even matter, 342 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 7: you know, it's I want you to be in your 343 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 7: fullness around me. 344 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: You know what I have to tell you that what 345 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: you said is the culmination of so much that that's 346 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: been on my heart, lady, and I feel so grateful 347 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: to hear that, because one thing that that I've come 348 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: to understand within my own life is that, you know, 349 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: we talk about these subjects out in the abstract. Right 350 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: When my daughter spoke on this, she said, people get 351 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: all upset about what they will or will not call 352 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: a transperson when they don't even know a trans person. 353 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: We get all upset out into this abstract of things 354 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: that we're not really thinking about exactly what the life 355 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: experience is. And one of the things that I'm coming 356 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: to understand is that you can't serve a person unless 357 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: you listen and know a person, unless you listen to 358 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: what it is their actual needs are. So much of 359 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: what we identify ourselves as are things that are given 360 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: to us so that people can decide what we get. 361 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 7: You're this, and so because. 362 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: You're this, you get this and because you're this, you 363 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: don't get this, And I think so much of that 364 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: has caused us to live lives that are all based 365 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: on I need to know what this is so I 366 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: can decide what you're gonna not get or what you're 367 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: gonna get to me, rather than actually listen to what 368 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: a person's needs are. If you don't have a box 369 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: to put someone in, you can't decide it for them. 370 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: They have to decide it for themselves. Then they have 371 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: to articulate it, and then you have to listen exactly, 372 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: and that process, that process is lost on us in 373 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: so many ways. And as a black woman and living 374 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: that experience in this country, in this world, I understand 375 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: that I need to know myself and articulate my needs. 376 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to. 377 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: Decide what it is I'm worthy of based on what 378 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: they think those particular identities mean to them. That I 379 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: refuse and none of us wants that. I'll take it back, 380 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: and I hope I'm saying this right. I take it 381 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: back to Kuji changing Legia right to Kwanza. 382 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 7: Yes, we must define. 383 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: Ourselves for ourselves. 384 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 7: We have to define ourselves for ourselves. 385 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: If we do not do that, someone else will define 386 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: us for us, and we already know what happens when 387 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: that happens. We already know the disaster that we're looking 388 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: at when that happens. You know what I'm saying, I'm 389 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: full of love in this moment. And like I said today, 390 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: I had a challenging day and so it's testing me 391 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: into like in a lot of ways mentally, but I 392 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: will have to say this that my heart is full 393 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: because in this place and in this space, this podcast, 394 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: I've been able to define myself in ways that I've 395 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: never been able to do my entire career with people 396 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: who know me for my music or know me you know, X, 397 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: Y and Z. I've also been able to define myself 398 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: with people have no idea who I am, who came 399 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: to this podcast only because they saw that it was 400 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: Jill Scott, And they have come to me and say, hey, 401 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: I didn't know who you were, and I've been able 402 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: to understand and get to know you through this process. 403 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, even as we interact with 404 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: all these outside things and we talk about, oh, the 405 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: social media is this or social media's dad or dah 406 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: dah da da dah, we have this opportunity to use 407 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: these spaces and platforms to also define ourselves and get 408 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: to know ourselves and to open ourselves up and to 409 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: receive the stories of others. And so that's that's a blessing. 410 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: I think of this particular moment, So y'all forgive me 411 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: if I ran to a little bit. 412 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 5: No, no, no, that was beautiful. 413 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 8: I mean, you also kind of defined why we kind 414 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 8: of invited Royce to this show, because I think that 415 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 8: he just you are a combination of all the things, 416 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 8: and the first thing, you've been with us since the 417 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 8: beginning you've been writing, you know what I mean, and 418 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 8: the fact that you have listened to all of these 419 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 8: different subjects and topics and been like, I see me there, 420 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 8: I see me there, and I see me there, and 421 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 8: I'm going to articulate to you, you guys, how I 422 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 8: see myself. Like, please follow Royce on Twitter. At the 423 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 8: very least, it's been fulfilling a full circle. I feel you, Asia, 424 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 8: Like I just I don't know, I feel fair by 425 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 8: this moment. 426 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 7: Just didn't having this conversation. 427 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 8: With Roy's too, because it feels good to know that, like, 428 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 8: these conversations mean something to somebody and they start things. 429 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 8: They start conversations, as Jill says, all the time, we 430 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 8: are really we are starting conversations. We are maybe changing 431 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 8: people's minds, slowing them down a little bit back, getting 432 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 8: off your mountaintop and come down here and open your 433 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 8: mind and ask questions and think like the rest of us. 434 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 7: And it's just so organically intersectional. Like I feel, and 435 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 7: I feel comfortable in seeing myself in so many things 436 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 7: that you will talk about. 437 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 6: I didn't feel as though, ooh, I kind of want 438 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 6: to comment that I can relate to that, but ooh, 439 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 6: I don't want to. I don't want anything to be 440 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 6: erased or dismissed on disregarding about who I am. You know, 441 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 6: I feel like my my levels and my layers are 442 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 6: in a safe space with this podcast, Like that's so important. 443 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 7: It's because that is. 444 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 6: That's that's so non negotiable when we look at like 445 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 6: community work, when we look at organizing, when we look 446 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 6: at building for real nation building, you know what I mean, 447 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 6: Like where we can actually respect our variations which sometimes 448 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 6: aren't even like differences, it's just variations of how we 449 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 6: stand and being alive and existing, you know, And can 450 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 6: we get j I el like. 451 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 7: Blasted through like the hotel shit in the West End, 452 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 7: because those. 453 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 6: Like certain spaces, you know, treat blackness. 454 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 7: In particular like it's a social club. 455 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 6: If you don't meet this expectation, you can't be down 456 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 6: with revolution. 457 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 7: If you don't meet this expectation, you can't be down 458 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 7: with revolution. 459 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 6: And when we look at what it means to have 460 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 6: a true community, it's so many of us. 461 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 7: That's what makes it beautiful and. 462 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 6: Strong and and allows it to flourish and foster actually 463 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 6: growing because we allow all of us to take up 464 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 6: space without feeling like we're stealing space, like you're safe here. 465 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 8: Woo woo woo. 466 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: Say it one more time, taking up space without saying 467 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: that I'm stealing space, because that right there, whoa nellie, 468 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: whoa no. I had a conversation with this beautiful brother 469 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: a few days ago, was doing my makeup, a gay 470 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: black brother, and he was telling me that he was 471 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: having this debate with his best friend back and forth 472 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: about he's a little older than me and all of 473 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: this new stuff and all of this you know, blah 474 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and like really really kind of buying 475 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: into a lot of propaganda, right and so, and this 476 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: is a black gay man. 477 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: So a lot of times you do see like people from. 478 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: The community being used in certain ways, you know, to 479 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: spill certain propaganda. But anyway, by line was we were 480 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: talking and I said to him, you know, listen to 481 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: your best friend, because what we talk about in this moment, 482 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: or what we're talking about in this moment is not 483 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: It's easy to not erase when you're in community with people. 484 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: When you're in the same you know, it's like when 485 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: you're a kid, you're just a kid's playing, right, you 486 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: don't have to announce yourself, right, But when you're in 487 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: when you are out into the greater parts of the world, 488 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: and you have to take up space in places and 489 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: spaces that maybe you haven't been on, where people don't 490 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: know who you are, where people don't just love you 491 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: just for the sake of love you. You have to be able. 492 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: You have to be able to count on those in 493 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: community with. 494 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: You to ride. 495 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 5: You got to count on them to. 496 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: Tell you that, hey, like, you have a right to 497 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: announce yourself in any space you come into so that 498 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: you can recreate that same kind of love that you 499 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: feel when you're in your safe spaces, when you're in 500 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: community with others. And it's like that and that we're 501 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: counting on each other. We're counting on each other. So 502 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: we have to fix it between us so that when 503 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: we go out into the real enemy lines, that we 504 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: are really actually holding the line for one another. We 505 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: can't do it if we don't have it in the inside, 506 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, And the inside gotta be tight. 507 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 7: I got six kids. 508 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: Okay, what mother who with a bunch of kids ain't 509 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: set them around one day? 510 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 7: Is like, listen, y'all can argue all y'all want to. 511 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: You understand I'm saying, But when it's time to ride, 512 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: it's time to mother. 513 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 7: F and ride. We ride. 514 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: Okay, somebody that's with one of us, they messing with 515 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: all of us. You gonna argue about where you different 516 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: when we get home. 517 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 5: That's why want black people to really be I can't 518 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 5: wait for us to all. That's that's the dream. That's 519 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 5: the dream. Like that's it right there. 520 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 8: Aging we ride is we ride, we ride, and that's 521 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 8: what we do here, Dada, We ride, you know, And. 522 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter the reason why you 523 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: get there. Just go shit, it doesn't matter. Everything else 524 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 4: is too damn exhausting. I love to feel rejuvenated. I 525 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 4: love to feel alive in myself. 526 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: I love that. 527 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 4: That's wonderful. Pretending is exhaust you know. I had a moment, 528 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 4: you know, sidebar. I had a moment on stage not 529 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 4: too long ago, and I was like, I know, I'm tired, 530 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 4: and I should be like I just had one last 531 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 4: night and the whole other city, and now I'm here. 532 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: I feel like I got the right to be tired. 533 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 4: And that show was, you know, it went on for 534 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 4: about two and a half hours, you know, and then 535 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 4: we rode for about seven hours on the bus and 536 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 4: now we're here, and I was like, yeah, but there's 537 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 4: no need for me to just continue with the template. 538 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: There's no need. 539 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 4: I don't This is my house, this is my space. 540 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 4: I don't need to do that. I can. You know, 541 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 4: there is a template because we all obviously have to rehearse. 542 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 4: But in this moment right now, I'm gonna let y'all 543 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 4: know how I feel. 544 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: That's how I feel. Let me just slide on in here, 545 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: you know. 546 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 4: And then the whole room shifted, everything shifted, you know, 547 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: and it taught me, you know, another valuable lesson. Always 548 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 4: it's like that it's better to be in your to 549 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 4: be in the room, you know, to be in here, 550 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 4: rather than you know, to just be in you know, 551 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 4: just to be in the space, but to actually have 552 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 4: your energy and your spirit alive and emoting energy is 553 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 4: way better than anything else. 554 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: I prefer it, you know, but easily. 555 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: Because you get tired, because you get stressed, get used 556 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 4: to it. You can follow right in line with what was. 557 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 4: This is a new world we're experiencing, and it can 558 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 4: be very exciting and very loving. What I know is 559 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 4: that I like who I like, Just like when we 560 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 4: were kids, you see somebody across the room like. 561 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: Up, like we're about to play. 562 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 4: We're all don't play like that that level of excitement 563 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 4: just because you know you are we best. 564 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: Friends now, you know what I mean? Like where you know. 565 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 4: That that excitement it still exists, and some people we 566 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 4: have it with and some people we just don't. But 567 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 4: if we open ourselves to it, I guarantee you're gonna 568 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 4: find a little some of that every day. 569 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: Every day. It's right there. 570 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 5: I find it too often. Ye know. 571 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: We're proud of you, Royce. We're proud of you. 572 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 4: It's so wonderful to see you so like multi dimensional jeez, Luis. 573 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a lot, It's a lot. 574 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 4: That's who we're reaching. We're reaching these multi dimensional folks. 575 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yo, all the lists got to step it up, Royce. 576 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 4: Look the bar is fat whoa running back running back 577 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 4: genre bending, afro futuristic, black liberation, soul, funk, hip hop, music, 578 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 4: recording artists, multi instrumentalist I love that, arranger, composer, EMC, vocalist, actor, photographer, 579 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 4: sketch artist, keynote speaker, and a lum of fam you guly. 580 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 5: I ain't even mentioned his current job on the thing. 581 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 7: I mean, why why bother science that's the animal science. 582 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: Of course. 583 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 5: Oh, that's do about. But you can always go back 584 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 5: to your mama. 585 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: Farm and help her out with whatever she needs. We're 586 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: gonna take a quick break and then we'll be right back. 587 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 8: I was curious, is there any conversation that you think 588 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 8: like that we haven't had that you would be you 589 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 8: would be like, we should maybe think about having this conversation. 590 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 7: Oh, I mean kind of spilling off. 591 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 6: This is with us all being multi dimensional, multi layer, 592 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 6: multi leveled, the power of saying yes to the living. 593 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 7: In the rhythm of your body, like you know, when 594 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 7: you're little and they ask you what do you want 595 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 7: to be when you grew up? 596 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 6: And you're like five, six ten, however old, and that 597 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 6: can change at any moment. But there's the expectation of like, oh, well, 598 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 6: you know, at six, I want to be an astronaut, 599 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 6: and you asked again, okay, at ten you still want 600 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 6: to be an astronaut, and so worth and so on. 601 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 7: But there's very little room. 602 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 6: For like, I want to be an astronaut, and then 603 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 6: I want to be, you know, a professional violentist, or 604 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 6: I would love to be a seamstress or a radio 605 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 6: show personality. 606 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 7: We don't get way for just the mind to be. 607 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 7: You know, you can still. 608 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 6: Be rooted and branch out, and it doesn't mean that 609 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 6: you got to have one little limb hanging off your tree. 610 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: You can. 611 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 6: You can bear as me different types of fruits as 612 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 6: you want on that tree, you know, just being able 613 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 6: to say, all right, I'm okay with you know. 614 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 7: I like animals. I love music too, So you. 615 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 6: Know what I'm gonna do both, and I don't care 616 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 6: what it means what it looks like to other people. 617 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 7: It makes sense to me, and it makes sense to 618 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 7: my spirit. 619 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 6: And evidently that's been put on my heart for a reason. 620 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 7: So can I stand in my reason and that be it? 621 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: Come on. 622 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: Reason? 623 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 6: And like I don't, I don't imagine how how warm 624 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 6: most of us will be if we can move through 625 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 6: life on that them of our body. Yeah, by the 626 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 6: time you retire, you're too you know, probably maybe you're 627 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 6: too worn. 628 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 7: Out to even enjoy anything else. You know. But even 629 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 7: when you retire, if you've. 630 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 6: Been a library and all of your life, guess what, 631 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 6: you can go back to school and do whatever, or 632 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 6: you can open up a market on the. 633 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 7: Beach, or you know, can can we can we do 634 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,479 Speaker 7: that for ourselves and others just share that. 635 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 6: I think that there's so much power and just allowing 636 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 6: ourselves to live to according to that rhythm versus you know. 637 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 7: That's it. That's it. That's that's very dry. 638 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 4: According to my son, that's that's how he feels education 639 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 4: is that it's it's very limiting. You know, there's things 640 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 4: that you have to know, you have tests that you 641 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 4: have to take, but it doesn't necessarily impact your life, 642 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 4: you know, the way that you would want it to. 643 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 4: And we had that discussion all the time. Yeah, there's 644 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 4: there's some truth to it. There's also other other portions 645 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 4: that are like, well, you know, it's it's good to 646 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 4: know how to measure shit, it's good to know how 647 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 4: to you know, and subtract, multiply and divide your money. 648 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 2: You know, you know, that's. 649 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: That's sometimes the harder part is the kind of larger 650 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: philosophies that we try to get people to buy into it. 651 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: So if you have a kid, you could you could 652 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: teach somebody anytime. You can teach somebody in ten minutes 653 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: how to measure, but you can't teach somebody how to 654 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: have ideas. That's a lot harder. So the fact that 655 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: you're sitting there and he has ideas, he is he 656 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: is exploring the philosophy of his life and how he 657 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: looks at and analyzes the things he's interacting with is. 658 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 7: A high intelligence for me. 659 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: You know, I think there's and I feel like, you know, 660 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: you can always learn a thing, not say that to 661 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: be easy, but you can always learn you know, these 662 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: kind of you know, basic things and systems, you know, 663 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: and unless and I also want to acknowledge there's always 664 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: so many different ways to measure because guess what, people 665 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: don't measure things the same way everywhere in the world. 666 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: Some people use the metric system. Some people use a 667 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: little raggedy system we have in America. Some people measure 668 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: some people measured by my fingers, feet and toes. 669 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: Some people so I think. 670 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 4: Some people say far, some people say okay. 671 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: Now now now I love them with that. No, I 672 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 2: enjoyed it. 673 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: I enjoy these young people and how they are pressing 674 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: us and pushing us to think outside of you know, 675 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 1: the box. 676 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 7: And I know it is our job to keep. 677 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: Them underunderstanding how to move with these ideas. 678 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: There it is. 679 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm supposed to have a conversation now. I literally 680 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 8: was asking Royce what we should talk about in the future. There, 681 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 8: y'all go, having a whole conversation. Now, I was giving 682 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 8: us another show. 683 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 7: I apologize you just. 684 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 4: We can absolutely continue this because yeah, every generation wants 685 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 4: to hold on to all the things that was before. 686 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 4: And life is for the living people. You know, we 687 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 4: learn as we grow, and we let some things, we 688 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 4: let some things perish. And if it's not beneficial to 689 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 4: the soul, if it's keeping you isolated, if it's barring 690 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 4: you from opening up and getting out of boxes and 691 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 4: out of the darkness, if it's if it's if it's 692 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 4: halting you. 693 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 2: From doing these things, let it go. Let it go. 694 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 4: Talk to somebody you wouldn't normally have a genuine conversation 695 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 4: in a bar, you know, on the street corner, you know, 696 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 4: ask a question with respect and. 697 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:17,439 Speaker 2: And brightened, brighten your brighten your situation. Huh, it's all right. 698 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 4: Thank you everybody for listening to j dot L the podcast. 699 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 4: It is our pleasure to have conversation at Spark Conversation. 700 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 4: And thank you so much Voice Hall for being here 701 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 4: with us and being a super fan and supporter of 702 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 4: our movement. Bless you. 703 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 2: How do you eat an elephant? 704 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 7: One? 705 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 2: By God? 706 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 9: Hey listeners, it's Amber the producer, and I just want 707 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 9: you all to know you are safe here. Nothing makes 708 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 9: my heart swell like knowing our listeners felt, seen, heard 709 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 9: and safe. Royce is a gem and to get more 710 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 9: voice in your life, check out his website, The Royshall 711 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 9: Experience dot com. 712 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 2: He has some amazing books. 713 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 9: You can also follow him on social media at I 714 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 9: am Royce Hall and check out his YouTube. He made 715 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 9: a few videos in response to this conversation. So if 716 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 9: you kind of want to dive a little deeper into 717 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 9: showing up as your authentic self and really nurturing your 718 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 9: inner child. 719 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,439 Speaker 2: Check them out. 720 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 9: I will link them in the show notes. 721 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 3: Love you, yeah yeah, yeah. 722 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 4: Hi. 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