1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. So I want to ask you about 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: something that's in the news a lot right now. You've 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: been really prolific over the past few years being the 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: head of the Intel Committee, and you've defended, promoted, you 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: even read into the Congressional record the Steel dossier. And 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: we know last week the main source of the dossier 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: was indicted by the FBI for lying about most of 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: the key claims in that dossier. Do you have any 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: reflections on your role in promoting this to the American people? 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: It would be clear if he was fired halfway through 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: the campaign, But you make the congressive disaffirmation yourself for 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: years by promoting this. I think that's what Republicans and 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: what people who entrusted you as the Intel Committee chair 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: are so confused about your culpability and all of this. No, 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: I think just your credibility is well. I man, I 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: love that. If you didn't hear it earlier this week 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: we played it. That is Morgan Ortegas on the View 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: fileting Adam Schiff, who helped to spread the ideas that 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: the Steal dossier was legitimate, that there was collusion between 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: the Trump administration and Russia, and we have now as 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: we roll into our number two Friday edition, Clay Travis 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: and Buck Sex and Show encourage you to go subscribe 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: to the podcast. Make sure you don't miss a minute. 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: Morgan ortegas who you just heard right there taking down 26 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: Adam Shift and Morgan, I have to say, right off 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: the top here, thank you so much for doing that, 28 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: because almost no one will say anything to Adam Shift 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: that requires him to stand up and acknowledge what he 30 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: spent years spreading. And somehow doing it on the View 31 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: made it even better because he thought he was going 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: in for probably a very lightweight interview and you were 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: just standing there ready for him, dunked all over him. 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: So thank you. And was that a difficult decision to 35 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: make in the view context when you're guest hosting, or 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: how did you come to go after him that aggressively 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: in that well? Well, first of all, thanks for having 38 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: me on after the show. I had to say, it's 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: so nice to hear the Russia Lumbob music. It like 40 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: brings me back to the last twenty twenty five years 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: of listening to him on the radio. So congrats to 42 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: see you guys. So I got to say the producers 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: at the view, the whole team was amazing, really amazing. 44 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: They were kind supportive the whole week. And Tuesday was 45 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: the second day I was just hosting, and I spoke 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: to the producers the night before and we were talking 47 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: about questions for the next day. I said, listening to guys, 48 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, this is someone who you know, a lot 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: of people have been upset with for essentially spreading Russian 50 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: disinformation for years, and I think he needs a tough question. 51 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: And I said, so when it comes to my question, 52 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, this is kind of where 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: I'm headed what I'd like to ask. And again all 54 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: credit to the producers, everybody said, you know, absolutely, Morgan. 55 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: We want you to feel like you know that you 56 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: can ask questions. And then they knew I would do 57 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: it in a respectful way, because that's how I am. 58 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: But you know, one of the pillars and of our 59 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: democracy is that we are able to hold all of 60 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: our leaders accountable and ask tough questions of them. And so, 61 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: like I said, I will be honesta. I said this 62 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: the other day on Fox. Um my hand and I 63 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: don't get nervous easy, I don't know why this happened, 64 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: but my hand did start shaking a little, and Sunny 65 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: Hawskin gave me like a She was very kind and 66 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: encouraging in the commercial breaks, because I sor to thought, well, 67 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: this is it, right, like there might not be another 68 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: moment to question him, and I need to make sure 69 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: I land this. But he's a smart guy. He's not 70 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: a dummy, right, he's he's a professional politician, and so 71 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: I just wanted to land it, you know, again, not 72 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: on behalf of Republicans or conservatives, forget all that. I 73 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: wanted to land it because this is someone who you know, promoted, 74 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: defended read into the congressional record a dossier which now 75 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: you know the main people that are the sources of 76 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: that Dacier have been indicted. It's not only looks like 77 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: it was lies. It may have been full on Russian 78 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: disinformation that started, you know, an investigation into the president 79 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: wasted a lot of taxpayer dollars, so you know, there 80 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: is a lot that needed to be held accountable before 81 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: and um, a little click at the end, I just 82 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, couldn't help because I was I was sort 83 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: of hoping, and I know this is probably very naive 84 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: of me. I was sort of hoping that as a 85 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: public servant, he would take the moment to say, you 86 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: know what, I was wrong on the doscier and he 87 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: can still defend right all of the actions that he 88 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: feels like that he needed to hold President Trump accountable for. Fine, 89 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: But there was when there's just no moment of self 90 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: reflection and no moment of saying, yeah, I might have 91 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: screwed that one up. I just kind of got irritated 92 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, you know, see, this is 93 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: why your credibility is in question. My friend, Hey, Morgan's black. 94 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: You know, I remember when you were working with Secretary 95 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: Pompeio and under the Trump administration in your role as 96 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: a spokesperson, right dealing with the press constantly, and so 97 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: you were you were very much feeling the incoming all 98 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: the time about out Russia collusion, delusion, And I'm just 99 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: wondering if if you have in any way picked up 100 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: from the press corps and maybe more specifically the people 101 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: that cover the diplomatic press corps, is there any embarrassment 102 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: at how many of them went for this, even if 103 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: it's private. I mean, do any of them feel like 104 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: they have betrayed their craft by being so wrong on 105 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: something so important. Which was the lie used to undermine 106 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: Trump for really all of his presidency or was it 107 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: just a tactic? And so it doesn't matter to them 108 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: that it was wrong because they were just trying to 109 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: defeat Trump and it didn't matter what they had to 110 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: do to get there. So I will say that some 111 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: of the people that I still talk to and have 112 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: relationships with, say, oh, I never fall for it, I 113 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: never promoted that, and I just sort of smile and say, okay, sure, 114 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: whatever you want to believe. And then there are some, 115 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: not many, but there are definitely some well known mainstream 116 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: journalists that were questioning this and that have expressed to 117 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: me privately that they were very frustrated that they could 118 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: not score an interview with Congressmanshifts for his new book. Um. 119 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: And so, uh, this is and I'm not at all 120 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: talking to me about right center journalists. I'm talking about 121 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: very mainstream journalists that you know that that wanted an 122 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: interview and could and could not get one because they're 123 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: known to be tough reporters. Um. So that's why I 124 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: said I didn't feel like in the moment that I 125 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: was questioning the congressman on behalf of a party, or 126 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, was questioning him on behalf of everybody who 127 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: sort of wanted some wanted some answers. Um, So I 128 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: think you know, listen when we go and Buck, you 129 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: know this better than anybody giving your time at the 130 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: CIA and elsewhere. You know, when you start to talk 131 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: about Russia, it's it's really frustrating, Um, from a policy perspective, 132 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: and it's frustrating for foreign policy and national security professionals 133 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: like you are, Buck Um. You know, we know that 134 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: for eight years the Obama administration Um not only really 135 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: ignored the threat of brush should they we all famously 136 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: know they mocked at Romney whenever he tried to warn 137 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: them about it. And then what happened, of course Ukraine, 138 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: excuse me, Russia invaded Crimea. That was an Unpresident Obama's watch, 139 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: and we essentially did nothing to stop that. And there 140 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: are news reports actually just yesterday, I believe it was yesterday, 141 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: that the Biden administration is warning our European allies about 142 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: the Russians of the troops. They think that potentially there 143 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: could be another invasion into Ukraine. This is on the 144 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: backdrop of the Biden administration essentially allowing the Russians to 145 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: complete the nord Stream to pipeline, which will make Europe 146 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: basically entirely dependent on Russian gas. It will undermine Ukraine economically, 147 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: and you know with their territorial sovereignty as well. And 148 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: so in our administration, we were putting sanctions on Russians. 149 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: I was in the room with Mike Pompeo and Putin 150 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: and rob multiple times. And trust me, I saw, one 151 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: on one in that room how tough Might Campeia was 152 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: with them. It was a side of him that you 153 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: do not want to get on the side of whenever 154 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: he is and sensed over something. So you know, you've 155 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: got you know, a group of people that were also 156 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: seenior officials in the Obama administration for eight years that 157 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: are now running the Biden administration. It's the same group 158 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: of people. They were stopt on Russia for eight years. 159 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: Now they've allowed them to build nord Stream too. They're 160 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: supposedly warning our European allies, look, the Russians might invadue. Well, 161 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: what the hell is anybody's going to do about it? 162 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: And now it's a difference under President Trump, right, China 163 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: and Russia knew, well, this guy might be a little crazy. 164 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: He might actually stop us from doing, you know, these 165 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: these reckless things that we'd like to do. And it 166 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: was I think he's not out of the realm of 167 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: possibility that under four years of a Biden administration that 168 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: you could see another Russian invasion into Ukraine. You could 169 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: potentially see, you know, maybe post Olympics, a Chinese invasion 170 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: of want Biden administration doesn't think that's going to happen. 171 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: I hope they're right. If I was a betting man 172 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: and I wanted to do it, I'd do it under 173 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: a Biden administration as opposed to potentially a second Trump administration. Morgan, 174 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: what about the irony here that for years we were 175 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: flogged with Donald Trump is a Russian agent, and the 176 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: Democrats said, oh, you can't share anything associated with the 177 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden laptop, that's Russian disinformation. And the ultimate outcome 178 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: here is that the Democrats were being used by Russia 179 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: to pedal disinformation from the Steel dossier, which was infinitely 180 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: more impactful in its negative consequences for the Trump administration 181 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: than anything they were ever alleging Trump had done that 182 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: would have helped his administration. I mean, it's really we're 183 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: through the looking glass here where so often what we're 184 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: being told by the mainstream media is not just wrong, 185 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: it's the exact opposite of what is actually taking place. Yeah, 186 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: it's one of the reasons that I joke and say 187 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: that I don't read fiction because in politics and international 188 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: relations is you know, it's it's you know, you don't 189 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: need to read fiction because you literally can't make this up. Right. 190 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: If you pitch this whole story to a Hollywood producer, 191 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: they would laugh at you and say, this is too unbelievable. Um. 192 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: And what I think is is, you know, the things 193 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: that worry me if the Democrats talk a lot about 194 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,599 Speaker 1: our institutions and whether our institutions are withstanding pressure and 195 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: all those sorts of talk. Right, Well, if you look 196 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: at I encourage your listeners to google Eli Lake and 197 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: look at his recent article and commentary magazine. When you 198 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: start reading, you know, Eli, for me, pieces it together 199 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: better than anybody. And when you look at both the Horrowitz, 200 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: the fbiig investigation, and the Durham investigation, you know, the 201 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: Horrorwitz they sort of painted the FBI being a victim 202 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: of you know, Clinton campaign operatives and tactics. You know, 203 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: I think that that's letting the FBI off a little 204 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: too too lightly. And what you look at here is 205 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: that we may have have essentially campaign uh you know, 206 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: material from from a rival campaign we that was essentially 207 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: used by the FBI for those five to warrants to 208 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: listen in on the truth campaign. So that is a 209 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: democratic campaign, uh, going to the FBI to spy on 210 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: their political opponents right by by misleading the FBI. So 211 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: if you want to talk about our institutions withstanding pressure, uh, 212 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: you know, using using the FBI, using intelligence agency, intelligence, 213 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: community resources, government resources, millions of dollars in taxpayer money 214 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: to go after your political opponent. I mean, that's that's 215 00:11:55,040 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: pretty pretty darn Crooked Moans, former State Department spokesperson and Morgan. 216 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: Always great to have you on. Thanks for being with us, 217 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: appreciate it, Thank you for having me. 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If we 244 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: do get a fifth wave, it won't affect the entire 245 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: country equally because the place's hardest hit tend to have 246 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: low vaccination rates. Well, yeah, at this point, staying unvaccinated 247 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: is like wearing a Yankees hat to a Red Socks game. 248 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: You're probably gonna end up in the hospital and it's 249 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: your own damn faults. Welcome back at Clay Travis and 250 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: Buck Saxton Show. I know that Stephen Colbert. I'm amazed 251 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: when I walk to the radio studio here Clay, because 252 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: it's pretty close to where the Colbert Show is filmed. 253 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: Then they have a live studio audience. Lots of folks 254 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: will stand out in line for it feels like hours 255 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: to go see this very unfunny late night show that 256 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: they do over at the Colbert thing. And here's the 257 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: problem they're going to run into. The numbers are going 258 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: up in places with substantial vaccination rates, places like New York, California. 259 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom already said aloud he's now back out in public. 260 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: People who know where he is that there's a seasonality 261 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: to this rake, which we were saying when everyone was 262 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: pointing to Florida in the summer months. It's like, oh 263 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: my gosh, Florida looking on terrible things are. But I 264 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: do think there's a little bit of a rising anxiety 265 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: right now among a lot of people who have really 266 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: believed that the Fauciite you know, regime will protect them. 267 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: Going into this winter, there's gonna be a big push 268 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: to make people get boosters. I think a lot of 269 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: folks are going to be who are not at high risk. Again, 270 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: my parents already got the boosters, your parents got the boosters. 271 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm not. You know, we are very clear about this 272 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: boosters for people who are at high risk, because even 273 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, six months of added protection may be really, 274 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: really helpful, especially for the possibility of getting like this 275 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: Fizer pell and some of these other therapeutics coming online. 276 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: But for a lot of other people, it's gonna be 277 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: a why am I going to get the booster situation? 278 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: And you may see cases rise dramatically. You may see 279 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: hospitalizations and unfortunately even deaths start to go up a 280 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: lot because the people that have been telling us all 281 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: we have to do is listen to fauci are once 282 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: again going to be wrong. We do not have a 283 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: pandemic of the unvaccinated and that has been their storyline 284 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: that if the whole country were vaccinated, that COVID would 285 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: go away. And the data out of Vermont, and the 286 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: data out of New Hampshire, and the data out of Maine, 287 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: and the data out of all of these different Northeastern 288 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: states that are now seeing a skyrocketing case are all 289 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: of COVID. Those people are overwhelmingly vaccinated. And this is 290 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: what we've been saying for months on this show. The 291 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: Biden administration has been selling the idea that the only 292 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: reason COVID still exists in America is because some people 293 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: are choosing not to be vaccinated. Now, they're not considering 294 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: natural immunity, they're not considering all of the people who 295 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: have already been exposed to the virus. They are saying 296 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: jabs and arms, jams, jabs and arms, jabs and arms, 297 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: that will solve everything. It's just not true. And Buck, 298 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: I legitimately wonder what's the overall number of shots that 299 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: are going to ultimately be required in order to be 300 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: considered fully vaccinated. Let me give you an example. The 301 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: NBA now is saying that if you have been vaccinated 302 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: the National Basketball Association, you are not considered to be 303 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: vaccinated unless you've also gotten your booster. So they are 304 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: requiring news came out today, come out prior about the 305 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: Johnson and Johnson vaccine, the one that you got the 306 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: speired airlines of the vaccine community, which, by the way, 307 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: what it has like a thirteen percent of efficacy after 308 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 1: six months. It's a temper. It's really a temporary, you know, 309 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: immune boost that goes away very rapidly. But I got 310 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: I got those natural antibodies. Baby, you're walking in that respect. 311 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: But how long is this going to go on? In 312 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: other words, where you're not considered to be vaccinated until 313 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: you get a booster? Is it five shots? Is it 314 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: six total shots? This is for shots. We're entering the 315 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: period now where we're gonna have to make a decision 316 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: as a society. Is this forever COVID? 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Number one 365 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: Georgia Bulldogs coming to town neil And Stadium. I'm gonna 366 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: have my thirteen, my eleven, my seven year old, all 367 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: just for me. My wife gets the weekend off, and 368 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: she's also convinced that I cannot handle even at those 369 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: ages thirteen, eleven, and seven, all three boys by myself. 370 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: Are you optimistic that I can handle them all? See? 371 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: I haven't seen you and the misses and the kids 372 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: interacting yet, so I don't even know the basics of 373 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: like which one of you is the softy and who's 374 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: the discipline. I'm definitely the softy. She's tougher than I am. 375 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. I let them get away with everything. 376 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: Now they also as a result, I don't know if this. 377 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: I think this is just a kid thing. In general. 378 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: They don't believe me no matter what I tell them. 379 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: The weather conditions are going to be like it's not 380 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: going to be particularly warm. So this morning I was 381 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: getting my kids ready for school, and I was saying, hey, 382 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: get your bag packed. You know, I let the eleven 383 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: year old and the seven year old pack their own things, 384 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: and I said, you know we're gonna be in the hotel, 385 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: we're going to the game. It's not going to be warm, 386 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: and they refuse to believe me when it comes to 387 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: weather as to what they're gonna feel like in the stadium. 388 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: They won't listen. And so like I'm having now to 389 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: pack for them jackets because if they if they're freezing, 390 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna get blamed for it because I'm the dad. 391 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: Even though they won't listen to me, and my wife 392 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: is just convinced, you know, with following them around and 393 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: having them at the Tellgate show. And by the way, 394 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: we'll be at Calhoun's down on the River for the 395 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: big noon kickoff show. It's a cool place down by 396 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: where the ball Navy is set up. People come in 397 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: on boats for the game. Should be great. So we'll 398 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: be there tend to noon tomorrow if people want to 399 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,239 Speaker 1: come by and say hi. But she's convinced, like I'm 400 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: gonna lose a kid and and and not be able 401 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: to return with all three. I have substantial faith in 402 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: my co host that he will both return with all 403 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: three of his children. There will be no you know, 404 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: frozen fingers or toes involved either. I think it's gonna 405 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: be all I have. I have substantial faith here. Um, 406 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: So there you go. What are you doing this weekend? 407 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: By the way, Just hanging out, man, just hanging out. 408 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: I'm having with some friends to the Dave Matthews concert. Actually, 409 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: even though he's a COMI but you know his music 410 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: is good. It reminds me of my youth. Have you 411 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm curious on this. I don't think I've asked you. 412 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: Have you had a friend yet? In New York City? 413 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: We know you got vaccinated, so you have a vaccine card. 414 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 1: I was talking to some friends in LA and they said, Clay, 415 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: the number of people with fake vaccine cards all over 416 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: LA now because you have to have them to get 417 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: in bars and restaurants. They're like, it's an epidemic here. 418 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: Have you had a friend or someone that you know 419 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: confessed to having a fake vaccine card? Fast? Are you 420 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: kidding me? They're all all over the playoff. I k 421 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: tons of people. I've come across lots of folks with 422 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: fake vaccine cards here. I would say I even talked 423 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: to someone recently who and this is not like I 424 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: have a friend thing. This is actually happened to somebody 425 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 1: A crew oh, Buck, you know this is it wasn't me. 426 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: I had a friend whose fake vaccine card was um 427 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: came up as a topic of conversation on a date, 428 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: and the other party ended the date they were furious 429 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: over the fake vaccine card. Now you know, I'm I'm 430 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: not out with any any libs on dates, so that 431 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: that would not happen to me. But the point is, 432 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: this did happen to someone that I know, and I 433 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: was sort of I was sort of, you know, amazed 434 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: that that's how intense it is. But you're you're seeing 435 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: it all over all over New York City. Now, I 436 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: assume it's the same LA and other places where you know, 437 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: the Democrat fauci mentality has just been running wild all along. Well, 438 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: they're asking for snitches now, Bucks on this whole process 439 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: kind of ties in with what we're talking about the Biden. Yeah, 440 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: people are going to be the vax Stazi. Now. The 441 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: Biden administration is essentially saying that they want people when 442 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: they implement the federal vaccine mandate, they want people to 443 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: come forward to explain, you know, if someone out there 444 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: is actually not enforcing it, or if they have you know, 445 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 1: fake vaccine cards or something like this, and I just wonder, 446 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: when is it, When is it finally going to break 447 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: more people that they've had to do all this stuff 448 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: and been so crazy, Like I've thought even some of 449 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: the Libs would would realize how silly they are. But 450 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: then again, I mean, I got people really mad at 451 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: me for making fun of their stupid cloth masks. Still, 452 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: so I guess I guess there's no end of this 453 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: for them. I think the boosters is starting to break people. Buck. 454 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: I really do, because I think there's a lot of 455 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: people out there, even people listening to us, that said, 456 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to go get the vaccine. 457 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: I'll listen to the authorities. I want to do my part. 458 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: Maybe you're listening to us and you're seventy five years old, 459 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: maybe you're sixty five, whatever age you are, maybe you're nineteen, 460 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: but you decided to go get that first vaccine shot. 461 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: But now when they're telling you, hey, the vaccines are 462 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: waning in efficacy and you're gonna have to go get 463 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: a booster maybe every year, maybe every six months, for 464 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: the next several years, I think there's a lot of 465 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: people who will say, I'll sign up for a vaccine 466 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: this covid vaccine is not really a vaccine. It's a 467 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: covid shot. And we've only been getting what forty five 468 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: forty fifty percent of people get the flu shot every year. 469 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: Way more people got they got the covid VACT shot 470 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: and whatever. And I think is going to have to 471 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: confront at some point soon. Two is that there will 472 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: be variants of this, just like there are the flu 473 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,239 Speaker 1: every year. There are going to be new versions of this. 474 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to be updating the shot that you get. 475 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: Not only will the boosters wane in terms of the 476 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: antibodies that teach you about the spike you know, your 477 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: body spike protein. All these mean new m m N 478 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: R A mechanism mRNA that I say, mm, sorry, mRNA 479 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: mechanism whatever. The reality here is you're gonna have to 480 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 1: get the shot every year, and until we realize that 481 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: we have to treat this to go back to normal, 482 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: we have to say this is to be treated like 483 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: that we treat the flu. We never go back to 484 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: normal then, and sorry, decide that we we're going to 485 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: be dealing with this forever. Because there's animal reservoirs for this. 486 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: It's still spreading we have vaccines that are not that 487 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: effective at preventing transmission at all. We've seen this now. 488 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: So that's why I get so frustrated, because I think 489 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: for a lot of people it was fear, and now 490 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: it's a stubbornness that they don't want to admit that 491 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: people like you and I were saying all along, we're true, no, 492 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. And that's why in the long run, Buck, 493 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: I think that people are going to come to our side. 494 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: But is it going to take five or ten years 495 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: until COVID is basically become acknowledged like the flu, for 496 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: people to recognize that insisting on kids wearing masks was crazy, 497 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: that vaccinating five year olds with nonsensical, That all of 498 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: the data lines up. And that is why the number 499 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: one story to me about COVID is how do we 500 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: get back to normal? And I don't mean people like 501 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: you and me, who in much part have gotten back 502 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: to normal in our life and many of our lists nurse, 503 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: but the country as a whole. It's a really really 504 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: interesting question that doesn't have an easy answer. Don't go online, folks, 505 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: without providing yourself a level of privacy and security. You 506 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: do that with express VPN. A VPN is a virtual 507 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: private network. It protects you by hiding your searches. It's 508 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: as if you're anonymous online. 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As we're rolling 533 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: through today's show, Buck Sexton has been in the eye 534 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: of the Blue Checkmark Brigade storm over his insistence in 535 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: calling them out over their obsession with mass And this 536 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: is just one of the many things that is all 537 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: tied up in a failure to acknowledge when a factual 538 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: pattern destroys the narrative. And you'll know this because Kyle 539 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: Rittenhouse white supremacist, awful human being on CNN and MSNBC. 540 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: He was called a murderer, a school shooter, a seventeen 541 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: year old vigilante, domestic terrorist, deeply racist, murderer. All those 542 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: things were said. And now people are coming to the conclusion, 543 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: having watched the trial itself, that almost none of those 544 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: accusations have been proven in any way so far in 545 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: a court of law. So there has to be a 546 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: reason why that is occurring. And guess what. Elie Msstall, 547 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: who is a larrior I believe, has decided, went on 548 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: CNN I believe it was and said, the reason why 549 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse may be getting off is because the judge 550 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: is racist. Listen to this. Do you see what I'm saying. 551 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: When you put the one and one together, you end 552 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: up with two. When you put one plus one plus 553 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: one plus one plus one together, you end up with five. 554 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: And that's what that's that's what that's what Schrader is. 555 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: He is. He has made a series of decisions, each 556 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: one perhaps maybe individually defensible, but in totality lead to 557 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: the impression of a biased, racist judge with his Trump 558 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: rally cell phone um that is trying to get rid 559 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: in House a walk. First, first of all, Clay, we 560 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: had to correct, I believe yesterday we said it's it's uh, 561 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: what's the name of the song? Oh yeah, yeah, it's 562 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: my apologies the Lee Greenwood and all of his fans. 563 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: I said that the song was called Proud to be 564 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: an American. It's called God Bless the USA, and I'm 565 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: Proud to be an American is certainly the refrain that 566 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: many people recognize that with apologies, funny to all of 567 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: America for that. Isn't it funny that Blue Check journos 568 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: like and like mister a miss style here just assume 569 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: as we were joking around, don't you like what I actually? 570 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: I was serious about this part of it when I said, 571 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: if you see that a judge on a case as 572 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,719 Speaker 1: a conservative, that you're you know, you're accused of something. 573 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: If the judge has an American flag hanging from their 574 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: home somewhere. It's not a guarantee, but you think you're 575 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: probably in pretty good shape that this person might actually 576 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: respect the Constitution. It's not even about their politics. Necessarily 577 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: funny that miss stall here assumes that God Bless the 578 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: USA means that this judge is like a Trumper judge 579 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: or something, which is completely absurd. It's a very popular song. 580 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: But beyond that, he even says every individual decision that 581 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: the judge is made is defensible because it clearly is 582 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: the judge is ruling on things where every Laura I 583 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: know is going what the heck is the prosecutor doing? 584 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: But because it keeps going in a way that the 585 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: left and the Democrats don't like, what's the ultimate answer. 586 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: One plus one plus one plus one equals racism. Okay, 587 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. You can think wrongly, I believe, 588 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: But you can't think that Kyle Rittenhouse was not entitled 589 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: to defend himself, in which case his actions could be criminal. 590 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: That's the question that the jury has to determine. But 591 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: what evidence at all is there that racism is a 592 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: part of this story in any way? He shot three 593 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: white people, three white people, by the way, with felonious 594 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: criminal records who were potentially going to do him ill. 595 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: And we were talking about this off child rapist out 596 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: of jail, by the way, how do you even get 597 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: out of jail if you rape a child. Here's the 598 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: other thing, Buck, you and I were talking about off air. 599 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: You have seen a lot of videos, all of you 600 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: out there have from the summer of racial tempest and 601 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: violence in the streets. How often did you see someone 602 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: getting beaten up by many numbers of people? Right? And 603 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: so when you are in danger, as Kyle Rittenhouse could 604 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: have been, of being disarmed beaten, he might well die. 605 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: When somebody tries to hit you with a skateboard and 606 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: knock you down, Buck, you are in danger. Once you 607 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: were on the ground, if you're knocked out of date, 608 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: I mean, in a use of force situation like this, 609 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: the fact that you have a loaded firearm automatically escause 610 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: if I have let's say I have a side arm 611 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: and someone and all the law enforcement officers listening to this, no, 612 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: and someone attacks me, and obviously it's different of your 613 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: civilian of different training expectations than a cop. But someone 614 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: attacks me, they go for my web percent. If they 615 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: knocked me out, they can take my weapon and execute me. 616 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 1: And I'm absolutely helpless. So this, oh, it was just 617 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: a skateboard swinging at somebody's head. They knew he had 618 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: a gun. What kind of lunatic assaults somebody with a 619 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: gun unless they intend to use that gun when they 620 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: get it against that person, Right, they're the ones escalating. 621 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: That's why this is such a clear self defense case. 622 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: We're so lucky, by the way, from the perspective of justice, 623 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: that there's video of this. Imagine for a moment that 624 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: you were just relying on the eye witness testimony of 625 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: BLM rioters in this circumstance, right, they would I mean, 626 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: I think that you would probably see young rittenhouse spending 627 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: decades in prison because they would say that, you know, 628 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: he started, it's his fault. We have video of it 629 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: that shows what happened. And yet here we are. They're 630 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: still trying to find a way to make Rittenhouse now 631 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: that the facts are out the bad guy based on narrative, 632 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: because ultimately they don't like that people would that individual 633 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: citizens would rebel against the lawlessness, the intimidation, and the 634 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: rage of the left of BLM of Biden voters, because 635 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: that's what this was. This was the anger of Biden 636 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: voters during COVID against Trump and Trumpism and all the 637 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: rest of it, and creating this BLM movement pretext for 638 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: going around and destroying neighborhoods and terrorizing people. What percentage 639 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: of people do you think believe that Kyle Rittenhouse shot 640 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: black protesters. I think it's pretty high. I mean, I 641 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: couldn't get I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. I asked 642 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: that thirty or forty percent of Democrats believe that Kyle 643 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: Rittenhouse shot black protesters. I think it's higher than that 644 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: because and the reason why I asked this question is 645 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: because Joe Biden and many other left wingers immediately said 646 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: this is a white supremacist. This is a racist. Even 647 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: that clip that we just played says that there's a 648 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: race angle to the decisions being made by the jury. 649 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: I think there is a huge percentage of people out 650 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: there that were completely stunned as the facts in this 651 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: case came out that the three people who were shot 652 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: were all white. And also I think a huge percentage 653 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: of people still don't know that they had criminal convictions 654 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: on their resumes. Flack jackets and I'm just saying I've 655 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: covered a fair number of anti direct actions on the streets. 656 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: I've been there as a media person, watching and seeing 657 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: and documenting it. And their expectation is that civilians run 658 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: away in terror. Their expect dation is that they want 659 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: to destroy your storefront. They want to rampage through your 660 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: your grocery store, your pharmacy. You get out of the way, 661 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 1: or else they're going to hit you with a brick. 662 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: That's what they expect. That's obviously what they were thinking 663 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: was going to happen with Rittenhouse, even though he was armed. 664 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: They found out the hard way that that was not 665 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: in fact the case. We got Selena Zito joining us here, 666 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: journalist who just does this amazing thing where she speaks 667 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: to Americans all across the country and covers the concerns 668 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: of Americans outside of the DC Beltway, outside of the 669 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: New York City northeast, in California media bubble. What are 670 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: people thinking of this Bide administration on main street across 671 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: the country. We'll talk to Selena Zito coming up about 672 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: that and just a few