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Speaker 1: We're back with another School Stories presented by three M,

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Speaker 1: the official science partner of the Minnesota Vikings. Tonight, we're

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Speaker 1: catching up with the Vikings quarterback legend, Tommy Kramer.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to School Stories presented by three M. Tonight,

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Speaker 2: we're catching up with the Vikings legends, who's still sitting

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Speaker 2: as a second leading passer in Viking's history. His stories

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Speaker 2: are always incredible, and he took a few minutes out

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Speaker 2: of his schedule to join us in studio tonight to

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Speaker 2: reminisce just about some of his favorite stories from back

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Speaker 2: in his playing days. Please enjoy our conversation with Tommy Kramer.

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Speaker 1: Well, Tommy Kramer, welcome to the show. It's great to

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Speaker 1: see you once again. And I want to start the

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Speaker 1: conversation off tonight by talking about one of your favorite

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Speaker 1: things to do, and that's stay connected with all the

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Speaker 1: Viking fans here in town. I see you on social

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Speaker 1: media all the time, running around and hanging out before

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Speaker 1: Viking games. Do you have a favorite place to be

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Speaker 1: before the game's kickoff?

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Speaker 3: One of the buddy always has this go to is

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Speaker 3: at kill Katy g Anything. Yeah, yeah, Then there's another

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Speaker 3: little bar right across side yeah, outside of it. So

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Speaker 3: it was fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet it is. I bet it is. Well,

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Speaker 1: you grew up in the San Antonio area. You had

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Speaker 1: a ton of high school success. You know that football

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Speaker 1: is a form of religion down there. Oh, yeah, it

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Speaker 1: really is. So what are your fondest memories of playing

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Speaker 1: high school ball? Because you had some great ones.

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Speaker 3: My dad had put a net up in the back

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Speaker 3: two by twelve cross up here, and I'd go out

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Speaker 3: and throw two hundred and fifty passes four days a week.

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Speaker 1: Wow, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I wouldn't just throw it for throwing it into it.

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Speaker 3: I I'd say, okay, okay, this one's gonna be for

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Speaker 3: the district championship and then this you know, and go

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Speaker 3: right through the boat the tire. Yeah. And so I

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Speaker 3: did that about five years.

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Speaker 3: And then but there's this one little girl down the

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Speaker 1: Oh that's special.

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't just throwing the football, but it was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like so when you were so when you did

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Speaker 2: get to the state championship and you you know, you

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Speaker 2: did get to the big games, you already had been

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Speaker 2: there in that respect, so you can just kind of

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Speaker 2: relive it already mentally, which is pretty It's it's an

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Speaker 2: amazing part of development for kids and because they want

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Speaker 2: to just do and and But it's not just the

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Speaker 2: physical it's the mental side as well.

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Speaker 3: Right. We ended up winning the state championship in Wichita

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Speaker 3: Falls and beat them, and then we played another one

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Speaker 3: at Cowboys Stadium and it's actually real, yeah, but it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: We didn't really lose that game because I had a

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Speaker 3: receiver going in the backside of the end zone and

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Speaker 3: so I looked and there wasn't so he's not open,

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Speaker 3: but we recovered it. Oh no, no, he helped that

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Speaker 3: ball into there. I didn't know where I was.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It had been interesting to go back in your professional

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for high school football. We had two best seasons.

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Speaker 1: I think back to nineteen seventy seven, you were the

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Speaker 1: twenty seventh overall draft pick of the Vikings and I

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Speaker 1: was looking up. In fact, this morning, only one other

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Speaker 1: went twenty seventh. Did the Vikings contact you before the

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Speaker 3: They told me to stay in my room and answer

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Speaker 3: and so, how would you like to for the Backers?

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Speaker 3: So give a damn where I played? I just want

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Speaker 3: How would you like to play for the Vikings? I said,

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Speaker 3: I'll give a damn where I play. I just want

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Speaker 3: He goes, well, you're going to pick you with the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you and when you finally got here. What

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Speaker 2: to you? How was what was it like playing for

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Speaker 3: Well, I bet you that half of the people that

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Speaker 3: he ever coached he never said a word to him.

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Speaker 1: We've heard that before. He was a quiet leader, but

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but he told me, he said, whatever you

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Speaker 2: So when you finally got your opportunity to get in,

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Speaker 2: you know, you had some NFL action in seventy seven.

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Speaker 2: What was that like when you finally got your opportunity

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Speaker 3: Tartington broke his ankle.

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Speaker 1: I think it was twenty four to three the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter to San Francisco. Three touchdown passes later, you win

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Speaker 1: the game. Twenty eight twenty seven. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: game where Tommy Kramer's name became synonymous with two minutes

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Speaker 1: Tommy and everything else that went on. Because that was

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was a hell of a game.

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Speaker 1: Well, mean that doesn't happen. It didn't happen back then

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Speaker 1: because the game wasn't quite as crazy as it was now,

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Speaker 1: and then you got a guy named the mad Rashad

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Speaker 1: to have a connection that eventually led to the nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty Miracle at the Met play. But talk about a

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Speaker 1: mod a little bit in your relationship. And Scott studded

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Speaker 1: well too, because those are two of your favorite teammates.

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Speaker 3: We all three of us kind of lived down there

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Speaker 3: school that's right across the road, and I said, Okay,

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Speaker 3: if you see this coverage and then we don't have

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Speaker 3: on right Tommy.

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Speaker 2: One of one of the questions I have is, what

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Speaker 2: what about that game winning play? And what was your

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Speaker 3: It's all about winning, you know, and that's all it is.

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Speaker 3: And so you go in and call the play and

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Speaker 3: and lateral and that's when censored bounce it back to

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Speaker 3: Teddy Brown. He's coming to a wheel route underneath here,

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Speaker 3: Got to get out of.

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Speaker 1: Bounce now three or four seconds.

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Speaker 3: That was it, so I told him. But I told

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Speaker 3: him for that. These boys are scared of us, if

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you. And sure enough they go out there

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Speaker 3: loft it up there a little time to get it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the mod reached back and grabbed it, and

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Speaker 1: all I lost a little bit of Tommy Kramer in

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Speaker 1: the in the midst of that. You know, that game

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Speaker 1: that is still memorable for so many Viking fans. In fact,

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Speaker 1: looking up your stats, thirty eight out of forty nine

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Speaker 1: I mean that was that was a game to remember.

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Speaker 1: And it was cold out and the fans stuck around

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Speaker 1: and they rushed the field, and a mod, I think,

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Speaker 1: turned to Terry of the count and goes, do you

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Speaker 1: like money? That sounds like a mod, doesn't it. He

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Speaker 1: a show together. So thank you for that. Because of

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Speaker 2: You what do you miss most about playing?

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Speaker 3: Just the thrill of playing, because there's you're out to

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Speaker 3: do something. You want to win a game. I like

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Speaker 3: that that feeling.

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Speaker 2: You can't find it anywhere else, and you'll way to

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Speaker 2: get there is to put in all the work, put

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Speaker 2: your body on the line. So for you, is that

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Speaker 2: still can you still close your eyes and feel that, like,

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Speaker 2: let's just let's just say the the throw to a MOD.

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Speaker 2: I mean obviously you can still see in your mind

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Speaker 2: you still had that feeling. Well, does that ever go away?

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Speaker 3: No, it never goes away because every time we go

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Speaker 3: somewhere those fans. What was the thing with Rashad? Right,

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Speaker 3: So I know that story by now.

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Speaker 1: You had a big bounce back here too. In nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty six kind of rekindled that that Tommy Kramer magic

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Speaker 1: finished off the season leading the league with a ninety

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Speaker 1: two point six quarterback rating a Pro Bowl nomination. What

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Speaker 1: it's been a while since you've been in the league.

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Speaker 3: Then, well it Burnsy was a head coach.

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Speaker 1: You talk about Jerry Burns, what a personality, and he

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Speaker 1: remember your name at all of me because Berns you

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Speaker 1: had had a hard time. He would just call Fran

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Speaker 1: he was a special but a very bright offensive coach.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's the funniest person I've ever seen without

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's good. We're here at Twistity Orthopedic. I mean,

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Speaker 1: state of the art with everything I think about the

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Speaker 1: training playing at Mets Stadium. I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: you guys barely even have a weight room out there.

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Speaker 1: But you you took your share of injuries and took

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Speaker 1: a toll. And I think about how much did that

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Speaker 1: take a toll over the years on you physically from

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Speaker 1: from the shots you took and having not having the

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Speaker 1: advantage of a facility like we have here now at

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Speaker 1: Twin City Orthopedic.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, we paid ten dollars to go place

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Speaker 3: to work out.

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Speaker 1: That's something.

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Speaker 3: Well, really, I said, this is professional football.

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Speaker 1: You had to pay ten dollars to go work out somewhere. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's amazing, that's what that really is amazing.

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Speaker 2: I have memories of Fred Zamberletti zamm big Big Freddy

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Speaker 2: because I know Fred. He was a big part of

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's always fun, He's always got jokes to

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Speaker 3: crack out and all that. He's a good guy.

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Speaker 2: Did he teach you how to play cribbage?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Some of the most expensive lessons and cards I ever got,

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Speaker 2: because he wouldn't play for free. You wouldn't teach you

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Speaker 1: You had you had to.

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Speaker 2: You had to put your own money up, and those

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Speaker 1: And again, thanks again to Tommy Crager for joining the

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Speaker 1: This past Sunday, shocking the Biker's lost another tight one

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Speaker 1: You have to be good enough to overcome calls. In

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think the line. Yeah, the Lions had

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Speaker 1: Well, we got another one this Sunday night. It's the Packers,

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Speaker 2: career maybe, but between he and Daniel Hunter, we've got

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Speaker 1: Well, that's it. And you know the Packers defense, I mean,

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Speaker 1: whoever starts a quarterback for the Vikings, Uh, they got

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Speaker 1: of course the turnovers.

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Speaker 2: Well, the one thing you don't do, yeah, exactly, one

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Speaker 2: Don't give him a glimmer of hope in that respect.

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Speaker 2: That you're going to be turning the football over. So

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Speaker 2: Mullins four hundred and eleven yards of passing, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: It's just a matter.

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Speaker 2: It's it seems to be the decision making under duress, right.

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Speaker 2: Well man, that's and we talk about quarterbacks being cold blooded, right,

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Speaker 2: and that's what we all. That's that's what Mahomes is

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Speaker 2: make the big play. And I think honestly, either way

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Speaker 2: they're they're going to get aggressive. That defense is reeling.

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Speaker 2: They're on their heels, so therefore get them off their heels,

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Speaker 2: had them, get them going north and south. Detroit had

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Speaker 2: some success taking advantage of our of our protection. Ty

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Speaker 2: Chandler still learning his way. There were some mistakes. I

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Speaker 2: would expect that the Packers are going to press, make

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Speaker 2: Mullins uncomfortable, make him make those those you know, those

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Speaker 2: you would you wouldn't want to do to Rogers because

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Speaker 2: Rodgers would kill you. So they're going to want to do.

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to do that to Mullins, so

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Speaker 2: I kind of expect the packers is just pinning their

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Speaker 2: ears back and just blitzed the living tar out of us.

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Speaker 1: Well, last week it was a Christmas eve Day. This

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Speaker 1: Sunday night, it'll be twenty twenty three, going out with

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Speaker 1: a bang literally as these two familiar folles. We'll score

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Speaker 1: off at us Bank Stadium on Sunday night. You can

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Speaker 1: catch Pete and Pa of course, right here all across

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Speaker 1: the Vikings radio network, so be sure to check your

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Speaker 1: local listings for details. And thanks again to Tommy Kramer

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Speaker 1: for joining the show tonight, and thank you fans for

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Speaker 1: tuning into another edition of Skull Stories presented by three M,

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