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Speaker 1: What's happening? Everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Monday Editionive Texans All Acts, as Sean Harrison,

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Speaker 2: Mark Vandermir here with you this evening. Got a really

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Speaker 2: exciting weekend a week excuse me, NFL scouting combines. So

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Speaker 2: much is happening, And as Nick Casario told Sean had

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Speaker 2: Saith last week, there might be some things happening that,

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Speaker 2: as he called it, illegal combine, illegal tampering period, illegal

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Speaker 2: tampering period, and any illegal tampering period.

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Speaker 3: So there might be some things happening at the combine.

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Speaker 2: As we found out over the years, the Panthers Bears

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Speaker 2: trade that came to fruition that moved the Panthers ahead

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Speaker 2: of the Texans in twenty twenty three, that was started

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Speaker 2: at the combine, apparently according to Ryan Poles, because he

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Speaker 2: talked to everybody after that and told everybody on every

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Speaker 2: podcast he had ever gone on, what exactly happened about

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Speaker 2: how you had taken a secret room at the combine

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Speaker 2: and had people coming by and.

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Speaker 1: Now he was not gonna talk. No, no, he's not

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Speaker 1: gonna talk.

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Speaker 3: Now he's not going to talk.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to talk in the media availability. So

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Speaker 1: for those who don't know they have various podiums. Setup

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Speaker 1: is the plural of podium, podiums or podia, doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: We'll just go with podiums for the moment, podiums. And

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Speaker 1: you have the gms, the coaches. Not everybody speaks, but

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Speaker 1: most of them do. Yeah, and Nick Will, Demico will,

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Speaker 1: and we'll have both of them on Texans Radio this week,

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Speaker 1: and they'll be on YouTube and all over the place.

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Speaker 1: We'll put them on Texans Playbook Saturday Night, ABC thirteen

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Speaker 1: at ten thirty five, actually at eleven PM in the

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Speaker 1: off season, so be ready for that.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of that, when they sent out the listing, they

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Speaker 2: the NFL put in Jacksonville Jaguars GM TBD. Now that's

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Speaker 2: been filled. It's James Gladstone, who looks like he's seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if he's lucky.

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Speaker 2: So the Jaguars have gone from Doug Pearson, Trent Balki,

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Speaker 2: been around, seen it, done it all good. They then

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Speaker 2: turned that duo into a trio of Liam Cohen, first

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Speaker 2: time head coach, James Gladstone, first time GM, and Tony Basselli,

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Speaker 2: executive vice president who has never actually worked in an

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Speaker 2: NFL building other than being a player.

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Speaker 1: Yep. How about that good or bat I'll let you know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I mean between between Liam Cone

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Speaker 1: Douvall and James Gladstone, who looks like he's doing an

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Speaker 1: internship in our business ops department. He does, and look,

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Speaker 1: it's not about looks, No, it's about how you do.

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Speaker 1: But is Gladstone going to be able to move up

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Speaker 1: and down the draft board and do the things you

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Speaker 1: need to do to be a GM, make transactions and

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Speaker 1: select the correct talent. And you know, as I'm pulling

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Speaker 1: this up, I see a Pete Prisco video that I'm

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Speaker 1: dying to watch on Gladstone. I wonder how he's positioning

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Speaker 1: this one. And we might catch up with Pete this

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Speaker 1: week because I enjoy Pete's company.

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Speaker 2: Here one of a few, what's that? One of the

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Speaker 2: You and I are two of a few? Like I

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Speaker 2: love Pete. People like him, but he is prickly. He

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Speaker 2: rubs people the wrong way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll be honest, Like he'll say stuff about the

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Speaker 1: Texans when he's on with us that we might not

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Speaker 1: like r exactly. Everyone knows he's CBS Sports. He does

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Speaker 1: what he does, and that's the way it is. Paul

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Speaker 1: Kaharski the same way. He's kind of He's not really

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Speaker 1: the Paul Kaharsky of Jacksonville, but there's some similarities. I

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Speaker 1: remember talking to uh.

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Speaker 2: I remember talking to a Texans coach who knew Mike

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Speaker 2: Vrabel and was saying that Kowarski was such a thorn

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Speaker 2: and Frabel's side like he just like Vrabel. Every time

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Speaker 2: cars could ask, like raise his hand or say something

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Speaker 2: a press conference, Frabel just underneath his ready, just.

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Speaker 1: In this story, you know.

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Speaker 2: And and every city he's got every every city's got one.

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Speaker 2: And so he was always interesting hearing about Paul. And

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Speaker 2: I love Kowarski too because he'll tell you the truth.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he'll tell you exactly what's going on.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we have one now. I don't think

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Speaker 1: the Texans have a salty reporter. The Texans was the

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Speaker 1: last salty reporter, would you say, you know sometimes Jerome

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Speaker 1: Solomon could be salty, Yeah, but he did. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: to find that age that he was looking for to

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Speaker 3: Brian T pushed the wrong Brian.

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Speaker 1: T had a little saltiness.

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Speaker 2: He had some saltiness, and no question with some saltiness

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Speaker 1: I mean sure, I don't think Tanya Gengouli was salty

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Speaker 1: when you know, for ESPN. But Brian and Tanya were

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Speaker 1: on sound bites of Bill O'Brien, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: AFC South Champs, Brian and losing his bad Tanya. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these are great Bill O'Brien iss Bill O'Brien quotes that

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Speaker 2: I think Tanya, Tanya has actually had I think now

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Speaker 2: she went out to LA and she was working for

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Speaker 2: the La Times. I think covering the Lakers. I don't

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Speaker 2: think she's doing that anymore. Okay, I don't know what.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what she's doing now, but I remember

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Speaker 2: she did some digging and there was some uh like,

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Speaker 2: I can't remember what it was, and I just remember

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Speaker 2: the Lakers not being really happy.

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Speaker 1: New York Times Times, which is the athletic. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right, that's the athletic. They bought the athletics. So

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Speaker 1: I guess so I guess she's covering it for the athletic.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I want to feel like I want to say,

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Speaker 2: she's covering something different, but but yeah, this this combine

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Speaker 2: gives us the opportunity to kind of catch up with

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Speaker 2: throughout the week. And the reason Prisco comes up is

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Speaker 2: Prisco really started his career as a beat writer in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that, and I think that's where he still resides.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a big.

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Speaker 2: Arizona State guy because he went to Arizona State, but

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Speaker 2: he resides I think still in Jacksonville and has a

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Speaker 1: So that's why. But who knows how he's got to work, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got Liam Cohen coaching Trevor Lawrence. We

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Speaker 1: head coach. This always fascinates me. We picked these coaches

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Speaker 1: based on their success as coordinators, and you just never

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Speaker 1: know if they're true leaders of men until you get

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Speaker 1: them in the seat. You know, clearly, demik so Demico

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Speaker 1: showed signs of that from his rookie year and probably

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Speaker 1: course you know he's he has that it's in his

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Speaker 1: to follow Dimiko Ryan's I will follow him. And some

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Speaker 1: He said, they won't follow you, kid, they won't do it.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's an element of yes they will or

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Speaker 1: no they won't where you just kind of know it automatically.

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Speaker 1: But I do think you can develop better leadership skills.

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Speaker 1: There's no question. It's just that some guys are more

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Speaker 2: I think when you go when you go young, like

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Speaker 2: then the first thought is, well, you guys went young

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Speaker 2: as we're talking about a young group that maybe didn't

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Speaker 2: the Bengals. First year with the Bengals wasn't the greatest.

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Speaker 2: were doing the draft, the COVID Draft in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Remember that they picked Joe Burrow at the numb one

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Speaker 2: Pig and they flashed to Zach Taylor at his house

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Speaker 2: and it's just like this non disc like it's a

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Speaker 3: That was it?

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Speaker 1: Remember that? And he took l for that. And then

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Speaker 2: And now I think people look at Zach Taylor and

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Speaker 2: CINCINNTI Bengals. Is last year, tough at the beginning, but

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Speaker 2: But I think if you go young, you you really

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Speaker 2: like if Gladstone were to make a mistake. Now again,

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Speaker 2: I go back to what I've said about Jacksonville. In

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Speaker 2: like who's sending the ticket to New York on Draft Day?

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Speaker 3: Who's making a call.

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Speaker 2: On signing a free agent for four years seventy two

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Speaker 2: years ago. Who's making that final decision? Is that BISSELLI?

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Speaker 2: I think one of the things he'll be able to

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Speaker 2: do is by talent. That's what he did with the Rams.

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Speaker 2: He was instrumental in some of the Rams draft picks

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Speaker 1: But it's a little.

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Speaker 2: Different when your that seat. It's a little different when

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Speaker 2: you've got to make a decision. Hey, Cincinnati called and

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Speaker 2: they want to offer you our first for your first

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Speaker 2: this year, next year, whatever, and you've got to make

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Speaker 2: that call. That's that's a little that's a little different.

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Speaker 1: I'll ask you another way? Is Biselli going to be

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Speaker 1: able to and I'm not I'm not loading this question,

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Speaker 1: although maybe I am a little bit. Is he going

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Speaker 1: to be able to let go and let Gladstone do it?

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Speaker 1: Let go, let Gladstone? Will he be able to do that?

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Speaker 1: And if I'm Gladstone and Biselli's hovering over me and

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Speaker 1: he hovers man, not that he's a helicopter executive vice president.

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Speaker 1: What is the executive vice a vice president? Yeah, not

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Speaker 1: that he's helicopter that way, but just his mere presence,

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Speaker 1: just having him down the hall. It's Tony gonna like this,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? They have the fifth pick

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Speaker 3: Right, what if they go to they need offensive lineman?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so what if they trade down? What if they

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Speaker 1: drop down? Is Becelly going to be on board with that?

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Speaker 1: What if pick about lineman? Maybe?

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Speaker 2: What if the scouts and Gladston on like a particular

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman in Biselli can't stand him?

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Speaker 1: What do you do? Does Tony say, no, We're not

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Speaker 1: going in that direction? So you're right? Who has final say? Well?

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Speaker 1: who has final say. And if I'm shot, I'm thinking, well,

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Speaker 1: why do I have Tony right if I don't have

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Speaker 1: him to have sort of this veto power that he

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Speaker 1: only exercises. I mean, this is really fascinating how that

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Speaker 1: dynamic is going to go. I want offseason hard knocks

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Speaker 2: I could definitely see that way, you're on my side

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Speaker 1: Crazy as it might be, you will put it on one.

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Speaker 2: Your favorite I have a favorite combine story that actually

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Speaker 1: Last the other day? I think you've going to twelve.

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Speaker 1: The best thing about the combine. The best thing about

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Speaker 1: for you to get information. I know that's not fun

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Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with everything you said. I mean seeing

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Speaker 2: talking today. He talked today like that, like today, like

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Speaker 2: But like Mark said earlier, not every GM, not every

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Speaker 1: We have Nick on All Access with us.

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Speaker 2: But my my favorite story you mentioned Manziel I remember

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Speaker 2: it was in that same room, and I remember they said.

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Speaker 3: They had light these light stanchions.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I remember a couple of media members literally like going

436
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Speaker 2: up on that because there were so many people. I

437
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Speaker 2: remember sitting next to Deep and we had like half

438
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Speaker 2: of our rear end on a chair. We were sitting

439
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Speaker 2: on one chair because it was it was that crowd.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was unbelievable. But they made changes to the over

442
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Speaker 3: the years.

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Speaker 2: They took us out of that room and they put

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Speaker 2: us over in the hallway or in the room that

445
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Speaker 2: we're in now. It's big convention center. It's huge, we

446
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 2: have plenty of room. But when they did that, they

447
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 2: put in the bench press. That was good, and so

448
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Speaker 2: we could watch the bench press.

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Speaker 1: It's really cool.

450
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Speaker 2: But then they changed the mode of the bench press

451
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Speaker 2: and it got to where only like three or four

452
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Speaker 2: guys were doing it, and I still wanted to watch it.

453
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Speaker 2: So I go over to watch and they call up

454
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Speaker 2: this kid from Florida and he goes up there and

455
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Speaker 2: I'm like, does he have Uggs slippers on?

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Speaker 1: He does?

457
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Speaker 2: He has Uggs slippers on, as I noticed that, and

458
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Speaker 2: he is repping out to twenty five and I'm like,

459
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Speaker 2: what the He's got ugs slippers on? He bangs out

460
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Speaker 2: twenty four reps for running back. It's Damian Pierce. And

461
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Speaker 2: I remember when we drafted him. It was that Saturday,

462
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Speaker 2: and I was with Sean Pendergass at the time and

463
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Speaker 2: I burst out laughing, just Damian Pierre. I was so excited,

464
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 2: but I burst out laughing and goes, man, what are

465
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Speaker 2: you laughing about? And I told that story and Deep

466
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Speaker 2: happened to walk in because she was gonna interview. She

467
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Speaker 2: was doing the Zoom interviews right with the players. Yeah,

468
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Speaker 2: and so she walked in and I'm telling that story,

469
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Speaker 2: and so she asks him that story after we draft him,

470
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Speaker 2: and he gets on as like, ah, man, I would

471
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Speaker 2: have done twenty seven five at Sneakers song.

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Speaker 1: Start, that's so Damien too.

473
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so Damien. As we've got to know him,

474
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Speaker 2: it's just so perfect. But I'm like, I've you know,

475
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 2: we'd seen players go up there and they get up, turnedy,

476
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Speaker 2: they chuck their hands up and the guys like pounding

477
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Speaker 2: their chest.

478
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Speaker 3: Damien gets up with uggs, slides.

479
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Speaker 2: Under the bar and goes boom boom boom twenty four

480
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Speaker 2: reps in two twenty five, and I just thought, this

481
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Speaker 2: is a different dude. And we found that out he's

482
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Speaker 2: come here. Uh and he is. He is a different

483
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Speaker 2: dude in the best way possible. Okay, the quarterback carousel

484
00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 2: always spins. This year, it feels like it's a punt

485
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Speaker 2: high up.

486
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Speaker 1: In the wind.

487
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Speaker 2: It's spinning one way, but then it spins the other way,

488
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Speaker 2: and it's making it really difficult for the returner. I

489
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Speaker 2: e all of us to figure out where the quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: are gonna go. We're gonna sort that out next right

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Speaker 2: here on Texans All Access. Welcome back to this Monday

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Speaker 2: edition to Texans All Access from the hundred Texans Radio studio,

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Speaker 2: John Harrison, Mark Vandermer with you. All right, Mark, I

494
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Speaker 2: like in the quarterback carousel, and I teased it going

495
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Speaker 2: into this segment. I liken it to a punt high

496
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Speaker 2: up on a windy day where it starts to spin

497
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Speaker 2: one way and then it kind of spins the other way,

498
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Speaker 2: and you're as a returner, You're like, oh God, where's

499
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Speaker 2: this ball going?

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Speaker 1: We have no idea.

501
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Speaker 2: I think quarterback carousels like that make it really really fun.

502
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Speaker 2: So the Athletic New York Times, as we mentioned earlier,

503
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Speaker 2: they put out an email, a daily sports newsletter called

504
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Speaker 2: The Pulse, and if you.

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Speaker 1: I guess if you subscribe to the Athletic, you get it.

506
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I get this, and I do subscribe,

507
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Speaker 1: I got a check, so I get it. I'm going

508
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Speaker 1: to spam.

509
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Speaker 2: And so the title of it was the NFL's QB Mysteries,

510
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, okay, click on that. No,

511
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Speaker 2: I don't click on every day, but you start with this,

512
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with it. So they made predictions for

513
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Speaker 2: I think it's five different situations. So I'm gonna hit

514
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Speaker 2: you with these and get your thoughts on how your A,

515
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Speaker 2: your thought about the prediction. B.

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Speaker 3: If it's not right, where's it go?

517
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Speaker 1: Or see? I have no idea where this one's going.

518
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Speaker 1: Can we ask you a question, chirst what who is

519
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Speaker 1: the most valuable quarterback? And it could be situation specific,

520
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Speaker 1: but just in general, who do you think is the

521
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Speaker 1: best quarterback free agent or not the best quarterback in play?

522
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Speaker 1: I'll put Kirk Cousins in play as well, because even

523
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Speaker 1: though he's under contract, he's in play. So because they

524
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Speaker 1: have Panix, so you have Darnold, Aaron Rodgers, Cousins, all

525
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Speaker 1: of those guys, plus whoever else else might be in play.

526
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Speaker 1: Who do you think is the best? Is Stafford in play?

527
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Speaker 1: I would say Stafford's in play based on all the rumblings,

528
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Speaker 1: but maybe Stafford Stafford healthy And it's a big caveat,

529
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Speaker 1: but Stafford healthy, he would be the best. Is will

530
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Speaker 1: Levi is available in the trade? Will Levis joke is

531
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Speaker 1: probably not in Ployell. If i'm them, I'm keep making

532
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 1: them even if I drafted I'm joking. No, I think

533
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Speaker 1: it's Stafford. I think it's Stafford.

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Speaker 2: So okay, let's start with this first prediction, the Giants

535
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Speaker 2: New York Giants. Because we've been a lot of smoke,

536
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Speaker 2: a lot of rumor about the Giants making a trade

537
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Speaker 2: for Stafford. The Giants forego a quarterback of the future

538
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Speaker 2: in this draft and instead trade for Stafford because the

539
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Speaker 2: current regime needs wins pronto.

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Speaker 3: How close is that to truth and reality?

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, Stafford, if he doesn't have a

542
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Speaker 1: no trade at least does a wink win. Yes, right,

543
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Speaker 1: so there's no chance that he should go there. But

544
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Speaker 1: I know his brother in law's on the coach staff

545
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Speaker 1: and I just does his wife and wife's family have

546
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Speaker 1: that much sway to what Stafford wants to do. He's

547
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Speaker 1: not afraid of New York because he's been in La. LA.

548
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: Ain't New York? All right? It's totally different animal. I

549
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Speaker 1: mean the media in LA. I know they're on it,

550
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Speaker 1: but they've got a lot of distractions. And you might

551
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Speaker 1: say New York too, But it doesn't matter. You play

552
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Speaker 1: for the Giants or Jets, you are going to be

553
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Speaker 1: in the crosshairs all the time. And look at this

554
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: stage of his career, he's probably not afraid of that

555
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: kind of thing, but he shouldn't do it. It's the Giants.

556
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Speaker 1: Do you trust Dable and Shane Sean Sean Sharan No,

557
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Speaker 1: I don't trust Shane after his kid would have done

558
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: a better job last year than him with the off

559
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Speaker 1: season acquisitions, so I say, and departures for that matter,

560
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Speaker 1: I say. It makes sense from a Giant standpoint. Yeah, sure,

561
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Speaker 1: it's a temporary relief though because Stafford, how many more

562
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Speaker 1: years want? In two years? Is the team ready to win?

563
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: Ready to even compete in the NFC East? So with Stafford,

564
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they are. I know they're two

565
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Speaker 1: years out of a oh we beat Minnesota in the

566
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Speaker 1: playoff situation. It just doesn't feel that good.

567
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Speaker 2: When Stafford was traded to the Rams he was thirty two.

568
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 2: Made more sense. It made way more sense now, not

569
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Speaker 2: only the last three years four year one, two, three four,

570
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Speaker 2: in the last four years.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's been beaten up. Yeah, could I see it? Yeah?

572
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Speaker 2: And does it make sense at the end where the

573
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: current regime needs wins pronto? Absolutely? Now here's the flip

574
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 2: side of that. If you end up drafting one of

575
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Speaker 2: these two quarterbacks, cam Ward Stuart Sanders, you I don't

576
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 2: want to say you can hide behind that, but you

577
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: can walk into John Mayra's office and go, yeah, look,

578
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: we went seven to ten and we're just getting started

579
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 2: with this guy. It's like we're a new coaching staff, right, right, exactly,

580
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 2: that's exactly right. So here's the problem. I don't trust

581
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Speaker 2: you one of those two to get you seven wins,

582
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Speaker 2: not even with the Lake neighbors, et cetera. Okay, next prediction, Okay,

583
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Speaker 2: you mentioned Sam Donald. Sam Donald heads back to Minnesota

584
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: on a high value two year deal to try to

585
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Speaker 2: maximize a Super Bowl window while JJ McCarthy still develops.

586
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Speaker 1: So what do you want me to rate here? Whether

587
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: they should do it, whether he should do it? Is

588
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Speaker 1: their validity to this prediction.

589
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: Do you look at it and go, yeah, I could

590
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: see it happen, or no, way that's happening.

591
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 3: Does it make sense?

592
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Speaker 1: Would you do it? No? If I were the Vikings,

593
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it, And if I were Donald, I'd

594
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: want to hit the mark. I think I'm going to

595
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: make more money somewhere else. I'm going to make more

596
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: money winning games for a team that hasn't won for

597
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Speaker 1: a while. The Vikings feel like we got to go

598
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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. We just won fourteen games last year. Now,

599
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: Donald obviously a huge part of that. Do we want

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Speaker 1: them back to win another fourteen then fade down the stretch?

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Speaker 1: I think I believe that they'll be willing and we'll

602
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Speaker 1: talk to Paul Allen, you know, our voice of the

603
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: Vikings and very well respected talk show host up there

604
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: about this. But my gut tells me they'd rather win

605
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: ten or eleven and get hot in the playoffs. But

606
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: do you win ten or eleven with McCarthy. He's a rookie,

607
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Speaker 1: But I think they'd rather try that, And if I'm

608
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Speaker 1: a Vikings fan, I think I'd rather try that as well.

609
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm just so disappointed over the finish that the regular

610
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: season wins feel hollow. And look, I know that regular

611
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: season wins, they're difficult to get. We all know that

612
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: the Vikings were a very good team, but look what happened.

613
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: Are you willing to take that chance again? Or do

614
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: you want to roll the dice on McCarthy having that

615
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: upside that you're really looking for.

616
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Speaker 2: So there's an answerary question which becomes Kevin O'Connell's talked about.

617
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Speaker 2: He was coach of the year, he's one of the

618
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Speaker 2: best coaches in the league. He's got to win a

619
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Speaker 2: playoff game. And they played both of them at home. Well, no,

620
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, they played the second one on the road.

621
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Speaker 2: They played the Rams, but they lost the first one

622
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Speaker 2: of the Giants a couple of years ago. Then they

623
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Speaker 2: lost on the road where they couldn't protect Sam Darnold with.

624
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Speaker 1: All the Rams had that cluster with the Fires to

625
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: play in Arizona, right, exactly, all eyeballs looking at the situation,

626
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Speaker 1: you would judge that the Rams that have the real

627
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: difficult time getting up for that game are being totally

628
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: focused for that game. I should say they were focused.

629
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were definitely focused in that one, and they

630
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: got all Oh, I mean they got after Sam Darnold.

631
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Speaker 2: I can't remember what the number was, nine sacks, eight

632
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: or nine sacks, which is amazing. Now you threw Kirk

633
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Speaker 2: Cousins in there a little while ago. Now keep in

634
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: mind the Falcons signed Cousins for one hundred million dollars

635
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: guaranteed last season, and then at the end of the

636
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Speaker 2: year they mentioned form Michael Pennix. So here is the

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00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: prediction as it pertains to him.

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Speaker 1: This is interesting.

639
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: The Rams used the return of the Stafford trade to

640
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Speaker 2: draft a quarterback. So assuming that the Rams are going

641
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Speaker 2: to get the Giants number three.

642
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: Overall pick against is the assumption.

643
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: But also signed Cousins as a stopgap, relying on this

644
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: coach staff's ability to maximize talent. And then I can't

645
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: remember whoever wrote this. I'm making myself loopy, right.

646
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: Don't you think that whoever gets Cousins has to inhale

647
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: some of that contract? Yes, and the Rams can't do it.

648
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 1: That's absolutely why why part ways with Stafford if you're

649
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Speaker 1: gonna do that. I know you drafted a young quarterback

650
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Speaker 1: in this scenario, but they're not going to take cousins

651
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: contractor any part of it on to make that deal

652
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have to give them a pick anyway,

653
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: right or Cousins gets released. They're not going to release Cousins.

654
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna do everything. That's what this week is about

655
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: for them. And this week is about, Hey, you had

656
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: some Kirk Cousins.

657
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: Terry fondos walking around you, like I got a quarterback

658
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Speaker 2: for you.

659
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Speaker 1: Can I buy you another drink? Because I got Kirt

660
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: and he's available, and you know what, you just have

661
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: to take on like a few dozen millions.

662
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: McVeigh wakes up at seven o'clock Eastern Time like, wait,

663
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Speaker 2: I'm in contrad I fan was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

664
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Speaker 2: you traded for your quarterback Kirk Cousins. Yeah, so that one,

665
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Speaker 2: I don't know. The Cousins one.

666
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: Is I think McVeigh probably would like Cousins, but not

667
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: with all that baggage, not having the track trade and

668
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: let me roll the dice with the young guy, and

669
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Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take a different kind of vet to

670
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Speaker 1: be the guy who starts until the rookie is ready.

671
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: If the rookie is ready right away, I'm gonna go

672
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Speaker 1: ahead and roll the dice with him because I'm in

673
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: the NFC West where magical things can happen. That's right.

674
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Speaker 2: This one I like because of one particular name, but

675
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: actually both names. Prediction Deshaun Watson's out of football for

676
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: twenty five and twenty six and the Browns move on

677
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers Moles offers from wait for it, the Titans

678
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: and the Browns, but the sides to retire, then teases

679
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: a comeback over the next two years. I think of

680
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Speaker 2: all the predictions he's made, I think that's probably the

681
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: closest one happening.

682
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Speaker 1: I don't well, Rogers can tease comeback all he wants.

683
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: He's not coming back if he goes no once, especially

684
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: he's out for two years. Once he's out, he's out.

685
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Speaker 1: You know, Cleveland would not be a bad place for

686
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Speaker 1: him if they played indoors. Yeah right. I can't see

687
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: Rogers playing outside now. I know he played in Green Bay.

688
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. But I don't like

689
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Speaker 1: Rogers in that stadium. Yeah. I don't like that at all.

690
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: Rogers in Tennessee. I don't think they're good enough to go.

691
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. He wants somebody who can win,

692
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Speaker 1: And you might look at the division and say, well,

693
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Speaker 1: I could get up on the Colts. Can I can

694
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Speaker 1: you can? You can you get over the Colts and

695
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: the Jags? Never mind the Texans, the Colts and the Jags.

696
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Even with Aaron Rodgers in Nashville, part

697
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Speaker 1: of me wants to see it. Yeah.

698
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, he's sitting duck against our pass rushers.

699
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know. And again, well we know

700
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Speaker 1: what happened now. But that's just a weird place for us.

701
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Speaker 1: Why do we have such a problem? Raiders is the

702
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: hot rumor, right, I guess, yeah, you know. I mean

703
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: it's the expendables. You got Peak Carroll, Aaron Rodgers, Chip.

704
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: Kelly, though, I mean che chip Kelly.

705
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: Let's be honest.

706
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: Chip Kelly's offense is not what it was at Oregon.

707
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: It has evolved over the years.

708
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: It's not the up tempo. And can chip Kelly can

709
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 2: use Aaron Rodgers. Yes, he'll figure it out. They could,

710
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll, Aaron Rodgers, chip Kelly could make the Vegas

711
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: very interesting.

712
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: Hard knocks. We will see Vegas here.

713
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Speaker 3: We don't know when, but we'll see him here.

714
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: We know that.

715
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Speaker 2: Okay, last one, this is an interesting one. Derek Carr,

716
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: we haven't talked much about Derek Carr. Yeah, the Jets

717
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: trade a late round pick for Car and Kellen Moore

718
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 2: either finds a decent free agent, he says, Jameis Winston

719
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: question mark, or picks a project more what plenty of

720
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Speaker 2: leash here Kellen Moore down in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: Uh, he's not gonna go with Jameis Winston as a starter. Okay,

722
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Speaker 1: Jameis Winston, you'd love to have him on your team. Yeah.

723
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Speaker 1: So I don't know what Kellen Moore is gonna do

724
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Speaker 1: if there's no Derek Carr. Yeah, I know, but Derek

725
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: in in New York. No, No, no Derek Carr with

726
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: the Jets. The Jets fans will, well, they always freak

727
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: out about it. Yeah, anyway they do, but they'll freak

728
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: out one more time with Derek Carr. And I like Derek.

729
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Speaker 1: I just don't think that's a good spot. I would

730
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: think New Orleans was a good spot. Remember when they

731
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: were two and oh and they were the Darlings, Yes league.

732
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: Kuback was the next coach of five different teams throughout

733
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: the league. Saints look unbeatable, scored forty forty plus, and

734
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: then we found out that you know, everybody scores close

735
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: to forty against the Cowboys in Arlington.

736
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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 3: Derek car is an interesting one. I've been thinking about him.

738
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Speaker 2: Knew I think could make a play for Derek Carr,

739
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: and it woul kind of make a little bit of sense,

740
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: and it would the fit would I think be okay

741
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: because the Titans. You're exactly right, That's exactly what I

742
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: was thinking. There's not a lot of media pressure. Quarterbacks

743
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: have been so bad lately that he comes in. He

744
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: just kind of manages, you know, manages things and kind

745
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: of keeps it. And then they draft one of the

746
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that maybe they can develop a little bit. And

747
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: Derek's not going to be not scared or intimidated by that.

748
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: You know, He's going to be the right kind of guy.

749
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Speaker 2: I think with a rookie or younger quarterback.

750
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Speaker 1: It's so funny to think about. How about this Cleveland,

751
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: Derek Carr and Cleveland. I could see it. Yeah, I

752
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: think Cleveland needs a guy. It's it's interesting because as

753
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm mulling this over, I'm like, Cleveland needs a guy

754
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 1: like Baker Mayfield. Oh wait, Derek Carter the Raiders, Oh wait,

755
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: you think about these things. You know, the marriage didn't

756
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: work the first time, although Carr is the all time

757
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: leading passer in Raiders' history, which is weird to even say,

758
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: considering their history, the team of the decades and what

759
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: have they done with Derek? Absolutely not what they're supposed

760
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: to do. So and I like Derek again, but I

761
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: think Tennessee would be interesting for him.

762
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: I think the one team that really is I mean,

763
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Speaker 2: I think Carr is not the quarterback in New Orleans

764
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 2: and that makes New Orleans really interesting to me because

765
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: they don't have a lot of cap money. They push

766
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 2: that credit card built down the road. They got to

767
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: pay it at some point. So do they draft one?

768
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: Do they pick somebody is Jackson Dart? Do they draft

769
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: him and in the you know, in the middle of

770
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Speaker 2: the round or wherever they are. I mean, it's kind

771
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: of a surprise mid first round of Conink Pennix was

772
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 2: the Falcons, Bnicks to the to the Broncos. Does Jackson

773
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 2: Dart go to New Orleans and compete with Spencer Rather?

774
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, but if I'm Kellen Moore,

775
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 2: that's a big mats of ball to have to chew.

776
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: Up and swallow. Who thought Nicks was going to do?

777
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: What he did. No, I know I didn't, not right away.

778
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: I've been Jayden Daniels. I mean not to that level

779
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: unbelievable rookie season following C. J. Stroud's unbelievable rookie season.

780
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: So I think this inflates all the quarterbacks. That's right,

781
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. Artificially in some sense, yes, But Johnny,

782
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 1: the Jets are in a horrible situation. They draft seventh.

783
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: Yeah uh you know along those lines, I was saying,

784
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: card to the Raiders and Baker Mayfield. You know, the

785
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: Browns could really use a guy like him. The Jets

786
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: could use a guy like Sam Donald. Oh wait, you

787
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: know it fits in a way if you have the history.

788
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: It's like, wait a minute, we can't do that absolutely

789
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: fit Donald in New York playing for the Giants. Maybe

790
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: what about what about you know what people forget though,

791
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: the Vikings are a hell of a team, and they are.

792
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: They're they're complete, They're very close to a complete team.

793
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: Donald played really well, But that's a hell of a

794
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: team with a great coach. Yep, there it is doing

795
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: that in that division.

796
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: His prediction earlier, and he, by the way, is Chris Branch.

797
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: His prediction earlier was that Donald'll head back to Minnesota

798
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: on a high value two year deal. And I understand

799
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: what he's saying is that you take a two year deal,

800
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: the cap hit is not as big.

801
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 3: But we're with the Vikings franchising Donald.

802
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: Well, if you're Donald, do you like that right that

803
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: you have forty million you cannot.

804
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: Sign the tag? Yeah, but he thinking I gotta think

805
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: he's thinking Kirk Cousins type deal. I need one hundred

806
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: mill out of this one. Yeah, you know, every once

807
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: in a while you need one hundred mill, right, But.

808
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: You got to look at what teams can give you that.

809
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 2: The Patriots can give you that, the Commanders could give

810
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: you that. But either one of them are gonna give

811
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: you they've got a rookie quarterback. Here's the other thing

812
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: about drafting quarterbacks this year. And you know when we

813
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: talk about the Giants maybe looking for a quarterback of

814
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: the future, I don't think you can find your quarterback

815
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: in the future in this draft. And I think that's

816
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: that's what makes this thing really really difficult. To be honest,

817
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: I don't think you can say, well, we're sitting at two,

818
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 2: we can get our Jade and Daniels or at least

819
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: whether Jade Daniels or Drinke may works out. It's the

820
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: hope they provide that they can do that down the road.

821
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: You drafted a guy that high. We really believe in him. He's,

822
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, athletic, he can make all the throws, all

823
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff.

824
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: But it's the hope that goes with we believe that

825
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 2: guy can do it, and then at some point down

826
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: the road, Yep, he's the guy paying a lot of money. No,

827
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: he's not all right. We got to reset this thing

828
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: in three years and we go from there. But at

829
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: least for those three years, you're gonna give it everything.

830
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: I just don't know the Giants, especially with a quarterback

831
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Speaker 2: class that's coming in twenty twenty six. I think he's

832
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: gonna be much better. And I know people hear that

833
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: and go, well, you say it every year. I'm like, no,

834
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: I don't say that every year, right, because listen to

835
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: what I'm saying about twenty five.

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00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: No, you warned us about to pick up class.

837
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I always look at the class, especially quarterbacks.

838
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: I look at the class coming and I look at

839
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: what that could mean if all those guys that have

840
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 2: declared now we live in nil transfer portal world. That

841
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: doesn't happen as often with guys coming out, So we'll

842
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: see how it all plays out. But those are interesting

843
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: predictions to hit you with. Okay, we're headed to Indianapolis.

844
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: What do you want to hear from Namico Ryans and

845
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: or Nick Cassio at the combine? Is there anything that

846
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: you want or need to hear this week?

847
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: I'll make you feel better about this offseason. That's next

848
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: to Texas All Access.

849
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 2: We got one finals segment of this initiative, Texans All

850
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: Access tomorrow Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. We will have all kinds

851
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: of content coming from the NFL Scouting Combine Mark mentioned earlier.

852
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: Probably catch up with our guy, Paul Allen. I got

853
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: to give Paul his props.

854
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: He was absolutely one thousand percent correct when he stopped

855
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: me before the game and said that a former Viking

856
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: would throw a half back pass. He just had the

857
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: wrong Texan, Oh hit k Akers, Yeah, and it was

858
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: actually Stefan Diggs.

859
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

860
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: So and he probably knew both.

861
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Speaker 2: And I guarantee you as it happened, I guarantee he

862
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: was thinking, Oh, I told John the wrong guy.

863
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 3: So we'll catch up with Paul Allen. I'm sure.

864
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: I'm sure there will be plenty that we catch up with.

865
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: We'll get some NFL media individuals have We had Ian

866
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 2: Rappaport on with us before, just.

867
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: In video form, just asking him what he thought of

868
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: the acquisition of Player ex player. Also when Demico Ryans

869
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: got hired, when Lovey got hired. We do that sort

870
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: of mishmosh of all the national story breakers because Ian.

871
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: When you have Ian on the air, it's I'd like

872
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: to talk to Ian about I had him on the

873
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: Owner's meetings once. Yeah, I like to talk to him

874
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: about story breaking. His life doesn't sleep with his phone,

875
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, how plugged in or not plugged in is

876
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: he during certain times of year. Just I think people

877
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: are fascinated by that.

878
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: Right, as opposed to what do you think of the

879
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: Texans trading for seconds?

880
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: To me, I mean, he has opinions and he's plugged in,

881
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: But at the same time, he's not really a football

882
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: x's and o's guy, right, and Florio isn't either. People

883
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: ask Floria like, well, who do you think is going

884
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: to win the game. That's not what Florio's best at.

885
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: Florio's best at league issues business issues with the league,

886
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: TV contracts, legal stuff.

887
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: Speaking of what do you think about potential? I saw

888
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: this yesterday, touchbacks on kickoffs now going to the thirty

889
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: five yards.

890
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is going to be in play and

891
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: it'll be voted on in March, right, maybe tabled till

892
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: May or whatever. But so those who don't know now

893
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: the touch back to go to the thirty right, they

894
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: want more returns. They had a fifty seven percent increase

895
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: in returns, and they said fewer injuries. Although the fewer

896
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: injury stat I don't even know what that's compared to.

897
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: Is that compared to before we went to the dynamic kickoff? Yeah,

898
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: because that we weren't having returns, right, So your fewer

899
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: injuries then before? Really, how is that even possible? Right? Anyway,

900
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 1: let's just forget about that for the moment. I guess

901
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: per capita, they they found a way to make it

902
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: a fewer situation that they could report on or they

903
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: could leak to the media. Uh, going to the thirty five, Johnny,

904
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: you tell me I don't like putting offenses on the

905
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: thirty five. That's definitely going to up the ante on returns.

906
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: You were going to get more. And how about this.

907
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: They're talking about having the kickoff from the thirty instead

908
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: of the thirty five. So you're kicking off from the

909
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: thirty and it's going to be hard to get it

910
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: to the end zone consistently. In certain conditions.

911
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: My kickoff returner is not taking one step out of

912
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 2: the end zone or he's fired if I'm getting the ball, yeah,

913
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: thirty five, right, you take a knee. I will take

914
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: it at the thirty five ball. You take a knee, right,

915
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: it's Devin Hester. I don't care you're taking a knee.

916
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a lot of short kickoffs because if

917
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: they do kick off from the thirty. Oh, I didn't

918
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: hit this one quite right. We get it now. Sometimes

919
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: I kind of like it. But you know what returns.

920
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: You know what could happen when you move back five

921
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 2: yards is you might have a better opportunity and angle

922
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 2: to get it into the landing zone, get it into

923
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: the the twenty yard line. Yeah, you might have a

924
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: better opportunity of getting the landing zone, hitting and then

925
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: going an ze.

926
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: Because it happened dust in the playoff.

927
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: Game, ball hit in the landing zone and then went

928
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: in to the to the end zone, took a knee,

929
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: we got the ball at the twenty and not the thirty.

930
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that potentially thirty five, Yeah, twenty versus the

931
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: thirty five.

932
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: There will be no returns. There'll be none. Give me

933
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: the ball in the end zone.

934
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: So well yeah, So what's gonna happen is teams are

935
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: gonna kick off wanting the return right and taking their

936
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: chance that way, and you'll get more action, which is

937
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: what the league wants. I can see that.

938
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: Or you're going to draft an absolute burmover leg hit

939
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: it out of the endzone every time and just give

940
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: it to him at thirty five, which I mean, I

941
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: guess no, you didn't want to know you're.

942
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: Going to do that. Demico doesn't want to put the

943
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: offense on the thirty five.

944
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna have a lot of the high kicks,

945
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: pin them down inside the five and force them to return.

946
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: Thirty yards away from a field goal.

947
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: I mean, if you back them up to the thirty,

948
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: why do you have to change the touchback of thirty

949
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: to thirty.

950
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: Five, Because it incentivizes you to kick off and tempt

951
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: the return and force the return and play that way.

952
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: They want returns, So I just know.

953
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: If you hit it in the end zone, you just

954
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: mishit it win takes it whatever. You're one yard the

955
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: end zone, you take that sucker to thirty five. Of

956
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: course you're one Nico Collins dig route from CJ. Stroud

957
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 2: to being in fieldal range.

958
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: But what happens we've seen when Fairband doesn't quite get

959
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: a hold of it, it goes to the eight instead of

960
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: the two. All right, so it goes to the eight,

961
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: and you know worst case, worst case is worst case,

962
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: but often the average worst case would be they get

963
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: it at the thirty three or thirty two. You'll take

964
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: that over the thirty five. So let's just kick off. Ay,

965
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: hit it between the ten and the gold line, and

966
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna have We're gonna pin him inside the thirty five.

967
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: It's a win for us in this context, right that context, Yeah,

968
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: it's definitely.

969
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: What about fourth and twenty, that's that's gonna be it.

970
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: You know, I've been I've been a fan of this

971
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: for a while.

972
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: If I that to me, it's like kicks are dead.

973
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: They're dead. They are dead. They're dead, they are dead.

974
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: You can't even do it unless it's the fourth quarter.

975
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: If you want to make the fourth quarter as exciting

976
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: as it possibly could be. Ye, give an opportunity fourth

977
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: and twenty, give them an opportunity.

978
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 3: I do it so.

979
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: Dressed to it now Andre complains about extra points and touchbacks.

980
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 2: Can you imagine Andre on fourth and twenty.

981
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 3: I don't even want to try that, no doubt.

982
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Mark and I are gonna have point from the

983
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: combine coming up the next few days, including but not

984
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: limited to DMKO Ryans, Nick Cassario hopefully at Paul Allen,

985
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: hopefully of Al Capaccio, and others throughout the AFC South

986
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: and the NFL world.

987
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: We will do that throughout the rest of the week.

988
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 3: We'll see that everybody, as always go Texans.