1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,937 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:19,737 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 4 00:00:20,137 --> 00:00:22,817 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to this special episode of the Buck Brief. 5 00:00:23,217 --> 00:00:27,617 Speaker 2: On the scene with us now Live is our friend 6 00:00:27,697 --> 00:00:31,577 Speaker 2: Andrew Giuliani, formerly of the Trump White House, former New 7 00:00:31,657 --> 00:00:37,577 Speaker 2: York State gubernatorial candidate, president of the Giuliani Defense Fund, 8 00:00:38,137 --> 00:00:42,697 Speaker 2: and also friend of mine since we were both playing 9 00:00:42,697 --> 00:00:45,817 Speaker 2: in the pee wee leagues for baseball or football or 10 00:00:45,857 --> 00:00:48,697 Speaker 2: whatever sports you were playing back in grammar school way 11 00:00:48,697 --> 00:00:49,417 Speaker 2: back in the day. 12 00:00:50,017 --> 00:00:53,177 Speaker 1: You a former constituent of you when you were class 13 00:00:53,217 --> 00:00:54,457 Speaker 1: president as well. 14 00:00:54,817 --> 00:00:57,097 Speaker 2: Let's be honest, I was school president, Andrew, if we're 15 00:00:57,097 --> 00:00:59,937 Speaker 2: talking about it, so, yes, indeed I was school president. 16 00:01:00,017 --> 00:01:03,097 Speaker 2: This is true. And then later on your school you 17 00:01:03,137 --> 00:01:05,577 Speaker 2: were school president some years later. You were about five 18 00:01:05,657 --> 00:01:09,217 Speaker 2: years behind me. So you know, Saint David's turns out. 19 00:01:09,057 --> 00:01:13,297 Speaker 1: Some beep, another sexton't beat me. I'm sorry to interrupt you. 20 00:01:13,297 --> 00:01:15,617 Speaker 1: Another sexton't beat me. I was the vice president. But 21 00:01:15,857 --> 00:01:18,537 Speaker 1: you know there were some ballot box issues. Wow, never 22 00:01:18,617 --> 00:01:19,937 Speaker 1: truly know what the actually. 23 00:01:19,897 --> 00:01:23,257 Speaker 2: I even remember this little buck also known as Keats 24 00:01:23,737 --> 00:01:25,777 Speaker 2: came through. You know, you got to look at the 25 00:01:25,817 --> 00:01:29,497 Speaker 2: overnight the overnight mail ins, Andrew, the overnight mailings back 26 00:01:29,537 --> 00:01:31,897 Speaker 2: in grammar school were a real thing. Got me again, 27 00:01:32,097 --> 00:01:34,937 Speaker 2: all right, So now you're standing just for everybody knows 28 00:01:34,977 --> 00:01:37,537 Speaker 2: that if you're not watching, if you're only listening, go 29 00:01:37,617 --> 00:01:40,537 Speaker 2: to the Buck Brief on YouTube or rumble. Type in 30 00:01:40,617 --> 00:01:44,137 Speaker 2: Buck Brief on YouTuber rumble and you can see this yourself. 31 00:01:44,177 --> 00:01:46,897 Speaker 2: Andrew is in front of the courthouse in New York 32 00:01:46,937 --> 00:01:49,377 Speaker 2: City where he's been reporting live all week of the 33 00:01:49,417 --> 00:01:53,097 Speaker 2: Trump trial. Andrew, just give us the overview. What are 34 00:01:53,097 --> 00:01:55,257 Speaker 2: you seeing down there? How's it been going so far? 35 00:01:56,937 --> 00:01:57,097 Speaker 3: Well? 36 00:01:57,137 --> 00:02:01,497 Speaker 1: I thought Thursday, in particular May ninth, was really, I 37 00:02:01,497 --> 00:02:03,417 Speaker 1: think the best day for the Trump team that I've 38 00:02:03,457 --> 00:02:04,177 Speaker 1: seen so far. 39 00:02:04,217 --> 00:02:06,537 Speaker 3: And it happened on a couple of fronts. Obviously. 40 00:02:06,577 --> 00:02:11,337 Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels was introduced as the prosecutor Houston's witness on Tuesday. 41 00:02:11,777 --> 00:02:14,497 Speaker 3: Tuesday, basically the testimony. 42 00:02:14,057 --> 00:02:18,617 Speaker 1: Ended where you had the Trump defense attorney, Susan Nicholas, 43 00:02:18,817 --> 00:02:22,577 Speaker 1: finally getting Stormy Daniels to admit on the stand that 44 00:02:22,737 --> 00:02:26,777 Speaker 1: money was indeed primarily a motivating factor. What a shocker 45 00:02:26,897 --> 00:02:29,137 Speaker 1: there that for a fourn star, money would be a 46 00:02:29,137 --> 00:02:33,097 Speaker 1: motivating factor in telling their story. But Thursday, the cross 47 00:02:33,137 --> 00:02:36,897 Speaker 1: examination resumed and Susan Nichols was able to point the 48 00:02:36,977 --> 00:02:40,257 Speaker 1: holes in the story throughout the years that Stormy Daniels 49 00:02:40,297 --> 00:02:43,737 Speaker 1: has had with that alleged encounter in two thousand and six. 50 00:02:43,777 --> 00:02:46,977 Speaker 1: You can go back to two thousand and six, twenty eleven, 51 00:02:47,057 --> 00:02:49,817 Speaker 1: when Stormy Daniels was saying at the time that there 52 00:02:49,937 --> 00:02:53,337 Speaker 1: was never sex. Then fast forward to twenty eighteen when 53 00:02:53,377 --> 00:02:56,897 Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels was in fact saying that the alleged sexual 54 00:02:56,977 --> 00:03:00,417 Speaker 1: encounter incurred, but said to Anderson Cooper that Donald Trump 55 00:03:00,497 --> 00:03:03,497 Speaker 1: was nothing but a gentleman. I never felt threatened by it. 56 00:03:03,817 --> 00:03:06,097 Speaker 1: Then you compare that to the testimony that happened on 57 00:03:06,217 --> 00:03:10,137 Speaker 1: Tuesday with the prosecution asking Stormy Daniels questions, and she 58 00:03:10,137 --> 00:03:12,257 Speaker 1: said that she felt threatened, that she was going to 59 00:03:12,297 --> 00:03:14,937 Speaker 1: pass out, that blood was rushing to her head. Susan 60 00:03:14,977 --> 00:03:18,137 Speaker 1: Nicholas pointed, I think did a great job in pointing 61 00:03:18,137 --> 00:03:21,097 Speaker 1: out just how much that story has changed and really 62 00:03:21,097 --> 00:03:26,457 Speaker 1: painted Stormy Daniels to be the liar she we that honestly, 63 00:03:26,577 --> 00:03:30,257 Speaker 1: it seems like she she may be. And then Bucking 64 00:03:30,377 --> 00:03:33,017 Speaker 1: ended up fast forwarding to later in the day when 65 00:03:33,097 --> 00:03:36,777 Speaker 1: Madeline wester Hout, who was the executive assistant to President 66 00:03:36,777 --> 00:03:40,377 Speaker 1: Trump from twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen, worked in the 67 00:03:40,417 --> 00:03:41,217 Speaker 1: White House. 68 00:03:40,977 --> 00:03:43,177 Speaker 3: Literally the outer Oval Office, a. 69 00:03:43,137 --> 00:03:46,137 Speaker 1: Couple of steps away from the resolute desk in the 70 00:03:46,177 --> 00:03:49,897 Speaker 1: Oval Office. Madeline western House was somebody who was fired 71 00:03:49,937 --> 00:03:53,057 Speaker 1: because she was taught leaking information on what she thought 72 00:03:53,097 --> 00:03:55,577 Speaker 1: was an off the record meeting, and she would have 73 00:03:55,577 --> 00:03:58,577 Speaker 1: been a disgruntled former White House employee. I think the 74 00:03:58,617 --> 00:04:02,457 Speaker 1: prosecution was relying on that instead. While the prosecution was 75 00:04:02,497 --> 00:04:05,777 Speaker 1: asking Madeline wester Howse questions, she broke down and cried 76 00:04:05,817 --> 00:04:09,257 Speaker 1: when they were talking about Milania and President Trump's relationship. 77 00:04:09,537 --> 00:04:13,177 Speaker 1: She said it she never remembers President Trump laughing more 78 00:04:13,537 --> 00:04:17,137 Speaker 1: than when Milania would come visit him in the Opal office, 79 00:04:17,137 --> 00:04:20,337 Speaker 1: and that they had a special relationship, and the prosecution, 80 00:04:20,457 --> 00:04:23,137 Speaker 1: in my estimation, at that point Buck seemed to end 81 00:04:23,177 --> 00:04:25,577 Speaker 1: their questioning very very quickly. 82 00:04:26,217 --> 00:04:28,017 Speaker 3: The defense was able to pick up on that. 83 00:04:28,097 --> 00:04:31,417 Speaker 1: And what could have been a damaging witness to President 84 00:04:31,457 --> 00:04:34,297 Speaker 1: Trump turned out to be I think maybe his best 85 00:04:34,377 --> 00:04:35,737 Speaker 1: character witness to date. 86 00:04:36,937 --> 00:04:39,417 Speaker 2: You're telling me all this Andrew, because you're observing it 87 00:04:39,457 --> 00:04:42,657 Speaker 2: and bringing us the ground truth, if you will, of 88 00:04:42,937 --> 00:04:47,177 Speaker 2: this trial. It does strike me though, how is from 89 00:04:47,257 --> 00:04:52,537 Speaker 2: the prosecution's perspective, or maybe from the defense perspective, but 90 00:04:52,577 --> 00:04:55,457 Speaker 2: the prosecution introducing this stuff, how is any of this 91 00:04:55,537 --> 00:05:00,977 Speaker 2: even relevant to a clerical business records dispute or allegation? 92 00:05:01,057 --> 00:05:03,137 Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying? Like, why is any 93 00:05:03,177 --> 00:05:08,017 Speaker 2: of this Trump's relationship with Milania? The specificity of the 94 00:05:08,057 --> 00:05:11,217 Speaker 2: alleged encounter with throw me Down? I mean, is the 95 00:05:11,337 --> 00:05:15,137 Speaker 2: judge just letting in anything that is prejudicial against Trump? 96 00:05:15,217 --> 00:05:17,537 Speaker 2: Is that basically how this has been operating. What's your take? 97 00:05:19,297 --> 00:05:21,697 Speaker 1: It's a great point, Bucket. It's the reason why Todd 98 00:05:21,737 --> 00:05:25,377 Speaker 1: blanche another one of the president's defense attorneys, has asked 99 00:05:25,377 --> 00:05:28,497 Speaker 1: for a mistrial on multiple occasions. Now the judge not 100 00:05:28,617 --> 00:05:33,417 Speaker 1: shockingly has denied that. But really it's turned into, I think, 101 00:05:33,777 --> 00:05:36,057 Speaker 1: and for lack of a better word, buck this seems 102 00:05:36,057 --> 00:05:39,417 Speaker 1: to be more of trying to smut shame. 103 00:05:39,337 --> 00:05:40,537 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, if you will. 104 00:05:40,577 --> 00:05:46,137 Speaker 1: They're trying to because again, from a legal perspective, there's 105 00:05:46,177 --> 00:05:48,897 Speaker 1: still no underlying felony that's been presented, So I think 106 00:05:48,937 --> 00:05:52,617 Speaker 1: they're presenting to the jury basically all the different ways 107 00:05:52,617 --> 00:05:55,537 Speaker 1: that they believe that Donald Trump is unworthy, all the 108 00:05:55,537 --> 00:05:58,937 Speaker 1: different ways that they may be able to actually sully 109 00:05:59,017 --> 00:06:01,337 Speaker 1: him in the eyes of the jury, even if they're 110 00:06:01,337 --> 00:06:05,617 Speaker 1: not actually discussing any underlying criminal charges in all this. 111 00:06:05,777 --> 00:06:09,257 Speaker 1: And that's why, frankly, the Matteline Westerhouse testimony I think 112 00:06:09,577 --> 00:06:11,937 Speaker 1: was so long for President Trump, because if that, in 113 00:06:12,017 --> 00:06:15,377 Speaker 1: fact is the prosecution's goal and the judge is allowing 114 00:06:15,457 --> 00:06:17,817 Speaker 1: him to do that, then man, was it a complete 115 00:06:17,897 --> 00:06:20,417 Speaker 1: one to eighty I think that Madeline wester House might 116 00:06:20,457 --> 00:06:23,297 Speaker 1: have turned on the prosecution in terms of what their 117 00:06:23,377 --> 00:06:26,537 Speaker 1: expectations are. And Buck, you and I know what this 118 00:06:26,777 --> 00:06:29,897 Speaker 1: ends up coming down to is is there a juror 119 00:06:29,897 --> 00:06:32,577 Speaker 1: in there who is unbiased? Is there a juror in 120 00:06:32,617 --> 00:06:35,697 Speaker 1: there who is not predetermined the outcome of this case 121 00:06:35,817 --> 00:06:38,057 Speaker 1: based on what they know about Donald Trump? And if 122 00:06:38,057 --> 00:06:41,057 Speaker 1: there is in fact a jur that is unbiased, then 123 00:06:41,057 --> 00:06:44,097 Speaker 1: he gets acquitted. It's that simple. Looking at what's been 124 00:06:44,137 --> 00:06:45,137 Speaker 1: presented so far. 125 00:06:45,537 --> 00:06:47,497 Speaker 2: Let's get to that a little bit more in detail 126 00:06:47,497 --> 00:06:49,257 Speaker 2: and where you think this is going. 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Or could you see this jury recognizing 155 00:08:15,297 --> 00:08:18,577 Speaker 2: how absurd this whole thing is and just effectively shutting 156 00:08:18,577 --> 00:08:21,017 Speaker 2: it down with a not guilty verdict? What do you think? 157 00:08:22,817 --> 00:08:25,737 Speaker 1: Well, it's tough because you and I come at it 158 00:08:25,777 --> 00:08:28,537 Speaker 1: from as rational human beings that know how to look 159 00:08:28,537 --> 00:08:33,017 Speaker 1: at evidence and try to basically deconstruct it for what 160 00:08:33,057 --> 00:08:36,137 Speaker 1: it is, whether it's true, whether it's not. When you're 161 00:08:36,137 --> 00:08:38,857 Speaker 1: looking the eyes of a Manhattan jury, who again, eighty 162 00:08:38,897 --> 00:08:42,937 Speaker 1: six percent voted for Joe Biden in twenty twenty, seventy 163 00:08:43,057 --> 00:08:46,177 Speaker 1: nine percent voted for Alvin Bragg to become the District 164 00:08:46,177 --> 00:08:50,417 Speaker 1: Attorney in Manhattan in New York County, then it's tough 165 00:08:50,457 --> 00:08:54,017 Speaker 1: to imagine they're actually being an acquittal considering those numbers 166 00:08:54,097 --> 00:08:56,497 Speaker 1: and just how much I think the jury could be 167 00:08:56,577 --> 00:09:00,777 Speaker 1: stacked against President Trump. But if they are unbiased, and 168 00:09:01,057 --> 00:09:03,817 Speaker 1: if there are enough from where they can actually continue 169 00:09:03,857 --> 00:09:07,257 Speaker 1: to make the case to themselves while they are going 170 00:09:07,257 --> 00:09:11,817 Speaker 1: through this, then look fat back up and equipment backs 171 00:09:11,857 --> 00:09:13,737 Speaker 1: back up in acquittal. So I guess that's the best 172 00:09:13,737 --> 00:09:15,817 Speaker 1: way to put it. And Buck, I've been looking at 173 00:09:15,817 --> 00:09:19,017 Speaker 1: the jury trying to get tells from them. You can 174 00:09:19,057 --> 00:09:21,777 Speaker 1: tell that they've been told to not give any reaction 175 00:09:21,817 --> 00:09:24,457 Speaker 1: because it's very, very difficult, difficult to get a reaction. 176 00:09:24,777 --> 00:09:27,177 Speaker 1: There's only about two or three of the jurors that 177 00:09:27,257 --> 00:09:29,897 Speaker 1: will look at President Trump often. 178 00:09:30,017 --> 00:09:35,217 Speaker 3: The other ones kind of keep their eyes on either the. 179 00:09:34,577 --> 00:09:38,737 Speaker 1: Prosecutor or defense if they're asking questions, and the witness. 180 00:09:39,457 --> 00:09:41,777 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to get whatever tells I possibly can, 181 00:09:41,977 --> 00:09:44,177 Speaker 1: And there are good poker faces on that jury so far. 182 00:09:45,297 --> 00:09:46,897 Speaker 2: And I know that there have been a couple of 183 00:09:47,977 --> 00:09:50,857 Speaker 2: a couple of motions made by the defense for mistrial, 184 00:09:50,897 --> 00:09:53,737 Speaker 2: those have been those have not been granted yet. When 185 00:09:53,777 --> 00:09:55,617 Speaker 2: do we think this trial wraps up? 186 00:09:55,657 --> 00:09:55,937 Speaker 3: Andrew? 187 00:09:55,937 --> 00:09:58,057 Speaker 2: I mean, you're down there, you're speaking everybody, You're seeing 188 00:09:58,057 --> 00:10:00,217 Speaker 2: it unfold. When is this thing going to come to 189 00:10:00,257 --> 00:10:00,897 Speaker 2: a conclusion. 190 00:10:02,577 --> 00:10:06,657 Speaker 1: So the judge yesterday before before he dismissed the jurors, 191 00:10:06,737 --> 00:10:09,777 Speaker 1: said that he believed that actually they were ahead of schedule. 192 00:10:10,217 --> 00:10:12,537 Speaker 3: So in going with they were looking at pre trial. 193 00:10:12,657 --> 00:10:16,137 Speaker 3: Then you know, we could be talking about three more weeks. 194 00:10:16,217 --> 00:10:19,737 Speaker 1: I mean, it all depends on how long is Cohen's testimony. 195 00:10:19,777 --> 00:10:21,537 Speaker 3: There's talk that it could be two days. 196 00:10:21,537 --> 00:10:24,017 Speaker 1: There's talk that it could be four days, which would 197 00:10:24,057 --> 00:10:27,697 Speaker 1: then spill in to May twentieth, the week of Memorial Day. 198 00:10:28,057 --> 00:10:31,817 Speaker 1: So and look at all this, I would guess probably 199 00:10:32,337 --> 00:10:36,057 Speaker 1: last week of May early June that we wrap this 200 00:10:36,137 --> 00:10:36,457 Speaker 1: thing up. 201 00:10:37,297 --> 00:10:42,577 Speaker 2: And the Cohen testimony that you're that everyone's expecting on Monday, 202 00:10:42,817 --> 00:10:46,337 Speaker 2: What can you tell us about how that's supposed to 203 00:10:46,377 --> 00:10:47,537 Speaker 2: go and what this is about? 204 00:10:49,097 --> 00:10:52,137 Speaker 1: Well, the interesting thing, Bucket is seeing how all the 205 00:10:52,177 --> 00:10:57,097 Speaker 1: prosecution's witnesses that had dealt directly with Michael Cohen had 206 00:10:57,297 --> 00:11:00,937 Speaker 1: said on the record to the jury and sometimes even 207 00:11:00,937 --> 00:11:03,937 Speaker 1: when the prosecution was questioning them that they had lost 208 00:11:03,937 --> 00:11:05,017 Speaker 1: faith in Michael. 209 00:11:04,737 --> 00:11:06,537 Speaker 3: Cohen because they had caught him in lives. 210 00:11:06,897 --> 00:11:09,897 Speaker 1: Both Picks, I think said that Michael Cohen used to 211 00:11:09,937 --> 00:11:13,577 Speaker 1: like to consider himself a fixer, but if he fixed anything, 212 00:11:13,897 --> 00:11:16,097 Speaker 1: it was because he broke it in the first place. 213 00:11:16,377 --> 00:11:20,137 Speaker 1: Keith Davidson said that he Keith Davidson being stormy. Daniel's 214 00:11:20,177 --> 00:11:22,937 Speaker 1: former attorney had said that he had lost faith in 215 00:11:23,017 --> 00:11:25,217 Speaker 1: Michael Cohen because he had caught him lying to him 216 00:11:25,457 --> 00:11:29,377 Speaker 1: on multiple occasions. So I wonder if the prosecution is 217 00:11:29,417 --> 00:11:33,657 Speaker 1: almost trying to set the expectations so low with Michael Cohen, 218 00:11:33,737 --> 00:11:36,617 Speaker 1: trying to say that this is the guy who had lied, 219 00:11:36,937 --> 00:11:40,297 Speaker 1: he had been convicted, he's done his time, and now 220 00:11:40,697 --> 00:11:44,097 Speaker 1: he is reformed, and that made what they're trying to 221 00:11:44,177 --> 00:11:47,417 Speaker 1: do with regards to Cohen, because I can tell you 222 00:11:47,497 --> 00:11:52,697 Speaker 1: right now the defense has so much on cross examination 223 00:11:53,097 --> 00:11:57,297 Speaker 1: with Michael Cohen, not just what he was saying ten 224 00:11:57,777 --> 00:11:59,937 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, what he was doing then, how he 225 00:11:59,977 --> 00:12:03,177 Speaker 1: had pursured himself, but also what he's been saying recently 226 00:12:03,457 --> 00:12:06,497 Speaker 1: on his own podcast, and how he's been going after 227 00:12:06,577 --> 00:12:09,017 Speaker 1: President Trump. That in fact, has been a lot of 228 00:12:09,057 --> 00:12:11,497 Speaker 1: what the mistrial and lifting the gag order I should 229 00:12:11,497 --> 00:12:15,057 Speaker 1: say lifting the gag order conversations has been between Todd 230 00:12:15,097 --> 00:12:19,817 Speaker 1: Blanche and Judge Murshan. So it's obviously going to be fascinating, 231 00:12:20,057 --> 00:12:23,297 Speaker 1: But I'm very interested to see how the prosecutors, the 232 00:12:23,337 --> 00:12:27,737 Speaker 1: prosecution tries to build up Michael Cohen after so many 233 00:12:27,777 --> 00:12:31,177 Speaker 1: of their witnesses have completely torn him down and has 234 00:12:31,217 --> 00:12:35,097 Speaker 1: basically shown him for the lack of credibility that I 235 00:12:35,097 --> 00:12:36,977 Speaker 1: think we all know that Michael has. 236 00:12:37,137 --> 00:12:41,217 Speaker 2: Do you get any sense about the concern that exists 237 00:12:41,457 --> 00:12:45,857 Speaker 2: on the Trump side that if Trump continues to push 238 00:12:45,937 --> 00:12:50,217 Speaker 2: back against the in my view and many others, completely 239 00:12:50,297 --> 00:12:54,977 Speaker 2: unconstitutional gag order, that he actually could be held in contempt, 240 00:12:55,017 --> 00:12:57,097 Speaker 2: not just for a fine, but for some kind of 241 00:12:57,417 --> 00:13:01,697 Speaker 2: period of incarceration. Is that lingering in the background, because 242 00:13:01,697 --> 00:13:03,457 Speaker 2: I know that Eric Adams, Mayor of New York, said 243 00:13:03,457 --> 00:13:04,617 Speaker 2: the discussion has been had. 244 00:13:06,537 --> 00:13:10,937 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he looked that discussion is with the 245 00:13:10,977 --> 00:13:11,577 Speaker 1: Trump team. 246 00:13:11,657 --> 00:13:11,937 Speaker 3: I know. 247 00:13:13,057 --> 00:13:15,937 Speaker 1: Look, you know the President buck he's a double down 248 00:13:16,057 --> 00:13:19,057 Speaker 1: kind of guy. And I think there is even some 249 00:13:19,137 --> 00:13:23,377 Speaker 1: conversation is in what does it politically look like if 250 00:13:23,417 --> 00:13:26,777 Speaker 1: President Trump does in fact get held in contempt and 251 00:13:26,817 --> 00:13:31,177 Speaker 1: then you're talking about potentially going to jail for what 252 00:13:31,217 --> 00:13:34,977 Speaker 1: we believe is violating the First Amendment of the Constitution 253 00:13:35,057 --> 00:13:35,897 Speaker 1: of the United States. 254 00:13:35,977 --> 00:13:39,537 Speaker 3: So that conversation is being had. We'll see if it 255 00:13:39,577 --> 00:13:40,217 Speaker 3: gets to there. 256 00:13:40,337 --> 00:13:42,057 Speaker 1: I know it's also one of those things I think 257 00:13:42,057 --> 00:13:45,777 Speaker 1: the prosecution is looking at and saying, do we actually 258 00:13:45,897 --> 00:13:48,897 Speaker 1: want to go and touch that potential third rail? Could 259 00:13:48,937 --> 00:13:53,937 Speaker 1: that actually help President Trump even more? Again, it's we 260 00:13:53,977 --> 00:13:57,457 Speaker 1: can't talk about this trial without pointing out the connection 261 00:13:57,817 --> 00:14:01,257 Speaker 1: to the Biden Justice Department right there when you see Colangelo, 262 00:14:01,617 --> 00:14:03,777 Speaker 1: who is out there doing some of the questioning, some 263 00:14:03,817 --> 00:14:06,377 Speaker 1: of the cross examination. 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Go to follow what 293 00:15:36,977 --> 00:15:39,377 Speaker 2: you're doing and see how this plays out. 294 00:15:40,737 --> 00:15:43,257 Speaker 1: Yeah, go on my social media fees at Andrew H. 295 00:15:43,377 --> 00:15:45,017 Speaker 1: Jiuliani on x untruth. 296 00:15:45,617 --> 00:15:46,017 Speaker 3: Uh. 297 00:15:46,057 --> 00:15:48,657 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I was inspired basically to do 298 00:15:48,737 --> 00:15:50,377 Speaker 1: this as I was in the courtroom and I saw 299 00:15:50,417 --> 00:15:55,897 Speaker 1: that CNN had completely misreported what Keith Davidson, Stormy Daniel's 300 00:15:55,937 --> 00:15:59,497 Speaker 1: former attorney had said Keith Davidson's full quote was you 301 00:15:59,697 --> 00:16:02,177 Speaker 1: lost faith in Michael Cohen because you had caught Michael 302 00:16:02,217 --> 00:16:05,937 Speaker 1: Cohen Lyne to him twice on CNN's ticker had said 303 00:16:06,537 --> 00:16:09,457 Speaker 1: Keith Davidson lost faith in Michael Cohen. They ended the 304 00:16:09,537 --> 00:16:12,377 Speaker 1: quote and they said, in the context of the repayment, 305 00:16:12,417 --> 00:16:15,137 Speaker 1: and I said, it's just not fair to the American people. Look, fuck, 306 00:16:15,457 --> 00:16:18,497 Speaker 1: you know, I've got my opinions. I'm biased for President Trump. 307 00:16:18,577 --> 00:16:20,617 Speaker 1: I had the honor of working for him for four 308 00:16:20,657 --> 00:16:21,537 Speaker 1: years in the White House. 309 00:16:21,577 --> 00:16:23,977 Speaker 3: I've known him as long as I've known you. 310 00:16:24,897 --> 00:16:27,577 Speaker 1: But I want to at least present what the witnesses 311 00:16:27,577 --> 00:16:30,217 Speaker 1: are saying, what the prosecution is saying, and then in 312 00:16:30,257 --> 00:16:32,257 Speaker 1: parentheses you'll see my opinion as well. 313 00:16:32,297 --> 00:16:34,337 Speaker 3: But go to add Andrew H. Giuliani where you can 314 00:16:34,337 --> 00:16:34,897 Speaker 3: follow it all. 315 00:16:35,937 --> 00:16:37,937 Speaker 2: I trust the guy, and I've known him. Now we know, 316 00:16:37,977 --> 00:16:40,777 Speaker 2: we've known each other like thirty years, Andrew, think about that, 317 00:16:40,897 --> 00:16:44,337 Speaker 2: thirty years. We go back. At this point, we're getting old. 318 00:16:44,617 --> 00:16:47,337 Speaker 3: We're getting old, I know, I know, you know. We 319 00:16:47,457 --> 00:16:49,697 Speaker 3: still got our hair right now, though, So that's pretty good. 320 00:16:49,697 --> 00:16:53,097 Speaker 1: I guess I want to continue this conversation throughout the generations. 321 00:16:53,097 --> 00:16:54,377 Speaker 3: And through the side by side. 322 00:16:54,457 --> 00:16:55,697 Speaker 2: I love it, and we're going to have you back 323 00:16:55,737 --> 00:16:57,857 Speaker 2: to talk more about Trump. So thank you for all 324 00:16:57,897 --> 00:16:59,697 Speaker 2: the worker doing on this, and let's hope that this 325 00:16:59,777 --> 00:17:03,977 Speaker 2: trial goes toward justice. Although I'm I'm not counting on it. 326 00:17:04,177 --> 00:17:06,817 Speaker 2: I'm worried, but I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful we'll win this fight. 327 00:17:07,097 --> 00:17:09,897 Speaker 2: Andrew Giuliani, everybody go follow him. And Andrew, thanks again, 328 00:17:10,217 --> 00:17:11,257 Speaker 2: thank you very much about it.