1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Giants dot com. Joined by Paul De Tino, 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: I am John Schmelt. The Giants have announced an interview 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: for their head coaching position, Christo Shard, who should be 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: pretty familiar to Giant fans. He's been the passing game 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: coordinator and the secondary coach for the Dallas Cowboys the 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: last couple of years. Took over play calling on the 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball for Rod Marritelli the last 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: couple of years as well, and he's one of the 9 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: interviews Paul for the Giants head coaching position on the 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. A younger guy, just forty 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: years old, former defensive back playing in the NFL in 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: the early two thousands, and he's someone that has a 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: lot of experience playing against his Giants team in the division. Yeah, 14 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. John. He really made his 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: name though, and his mark in the NFL with Seattle, 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: a team that he played for. You mentioned he was 17 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: a corner when he came out of school. Played for 18 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: three years with the Seattle Seahawks, which later on he 19 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: wound up being in their secondary as their secondary coach. 20 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: He was the coordinator back there with the corners and 21 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: the legion of boom. He's the guy who orchestrated that 22 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: entire concept big hitters in the secondary. Yeah, he was 23 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: their defensive backs coach. He came there with Pete Carroll, 24 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: believe it or not, despite the fact he was a 25 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: former player for Seattle. He joined Pete Carroll's a graduate 26 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: assistant in usc and then came with him the Seattle. 27 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: He was a secondary coach for a while, then when 28 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: they lost their defensive coordinator, uh, he went and got 29 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: a head coaching job. He became their DC from two 30 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: thousand fifteen to two thousand and seventeen. So, Paul, you 31 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: hit it. He's a secondary oriented guy, and we'll get 32 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: to the other parts of his defense to the second. 33 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: But he likes big cornerbacks, long, lengthy guys, and he 34 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: is a heavy cover three zone defense defensive backfield coach. 35 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: This year for the Dallas Cowboys, they played forty seven 36 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: per cent of their coverages were cover three. That's a 37 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: very high percentage. So he plays that Seahawks style system 38 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: when he arranges his coverage in the defensive backfield. Of course, 39 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: the question would be when he gets here, if he 40 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: in fact turns out to be the guy who wins 41 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: the job, how will he mesh with whoever the coordinator 42 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: will be and what kind of adjustments would he have 43 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: to make with that coordinator Because a lot of times 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: what happens is when you see a guy who's your 45 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 1: position coach or a coordinator, a lot of what they're 46 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: doing is influenced by their head guy. It may not 47 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: be exactly what he wants to do, all right, And 48 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 1: I mentioned the fact that he's technically not the Cowboys 49 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator the last couple of years. Rob Marionelli is, 50 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: and he's obviously a classic four. Well, here's the thing. 51 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: This year, the Cowboys blitz percentage went way down. It did. 52 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: They were only twenty eight and blitz percentage this year, 53 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: and he was their play caller on defense. Marionelli passed 54 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: that over to him on game days, so he was 55 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: not a heavy blitz guy this year. Now, a lot 56 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: of that has to do with the fact that the 57 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys invested heavily in defensive lineman that should be able 58 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: to win one on one to get after the quarterback. 59 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: Robert Quinn, De Marcus Lawrence, Michael benn in the trade 60 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: and MALIEK. Collins. So he probably didn't feel like he 61 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: had the blitz. They did blitz more than they did 62 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: this season. So you wonder if he's married to a 63 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: four three three four, because again, he's more of a 64 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: secondary guy. Something I think would depend on who the 65 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator would be and who would run the defense 66 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: for him. But this year he did not blitz a lot. 67 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: Big Time's own guy like long, lengthy cornerbacks and the 68 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: other thing I'll throw out there too. From a statistic 69 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: point of view, Paul, they did not get unlike those 70 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: Seattle defenses he had. The Cowboys did not get a 71 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: lot of takeaways the last couple of season. That's something 72 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: the defense did struggle with this year in terms of 73 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: takeaways just seventeen. Only seven interceptions this year and ten 74 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: fumble recoveries. The point to be made, like you said before, 75 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: how they reduced their blitz packages this year. Maronelli was 76 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: always known for his extensive blitz packages, and now that 77 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: they have cut back, you wonder where was the influence 78 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: there is that something that we're shard particularly wanted to 79 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: get away from and then was allowed to do so 80 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: this year. You are definitely right though about the takeaways 81 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: going down you wonder if that also has something to 82 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: do with the fact that they didn't send more pressure. Well, 83 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: and you watch the way they play the Cowboys, the 84 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: way their defensive backs generally play, the way they work 85 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: their scheme, they're not keeping their eye on the quarterback 86 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: is much. They generally have their back turn to the quarterback, 87 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: and they're doing more of that face guarding technique, which, 88 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: by the way, if you don't make contact with the 89 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: opposing wide receiver, it's legal, it's not defensive past interference. 90 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: But if you watch Byron Jones and not Jadobie Woozi 91 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: and those guys, they generally tend to blank at the 92 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver, try to get their head around very late 93 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: in the process and knock the ball away. That's why 94 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: they don't get a lot of those interceptions. We should 95 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: also mention, by the way, he also spent a couple 96 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: of years playing with the San Francisco forty Niners, so 97 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: did have five years of playing experience in the NFL 98 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: before we entered the coaching ranks, and he was on 99 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: the coaching circuit last year. He was rumored to be 100 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: interviewed for jobs last year with various teams throughout the league, 101 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: so he's somebody that has been highly sought after overall. 102 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: By the way, the Cowboys were top ten defense this year. 103 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: They're around eight or nine, and most statistical categories same 104 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: deal last year, so that's kind of where they landed. 105 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: If you look at some of the advanced numbers they 106 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: have those d v o A stats, they were a 107 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: little bit lower, closer between fifteen and twenty the last 108 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: couple of years. So that's your thumbnail on Christo Shard, 109 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: one of the player, one of the coaches right that 110 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: will interview for the Giants head coach position this off 111 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: season for Paul Detino. I'm John Schmunk. Thanks for being 112 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: with us. Stay tuned the Giants dot com as the 113 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: Giants coaching search continues.