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Speaker 1: Millman Sharper Square you know him from the CCO Action Network.
Speaker 1: All odds provided by DraftKings. So I spent Wednesday night,
Speaker 1: flew in, flew back for the volume party and the
Speaker 1: overriding theme. Now this is from just advertisers and friends,
Speaker 1: media colleagues. A couple of players was that why don't
Speaker 1: they hold all the Super Bowls in Las Vegas? For
Speaker 1: years and years this was a big stigma. Remember years
Speaker 1: ago Tony Romo wanted to do some fantasy football league
Speaker 1: in the NFL wouldn't allow it. It was always ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Vegas has legalized gambling, but told the NBA warned them
Speaker 1: about Tim donaghy. They don't want a stigma around gambling.
Speaker 1: It's the it's the gambling sports gambling mecca of the
Speaker 1: United States. So there's been a lot of gambling controversies.
Speaker 1: Very few have been in Las Vegas. They're on the
Speaker 1: alert for scammers. So finally they put hockey in there.
Speaker 1: And now football it's all crushing and there's no problem
Speaker 1: with the Raiders. Players make so much money. Now I
Speaker 1: worry more about collegiate players and that stuff, and officials
Speaker 1: and that stuff, and even you know, that's why I
Speaker 1: always felt the NFL should, you know, make officials full
Speaker 1: time employees, because it holds them to a higher level
Speaker 1: of accountability. Not that they don't feel accountable, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's the difference between being in a company and being
Speaker 1: a consultant. There's a different responsibility, a different level, and
Speaker 1: I think you always have to have your eye out
Speaker 1: for stuff. We saw the college football player at LSU.
Speaker 1: College kids, they're trying to make ends, meet their stars
Speaker 1: in college pre nil, I always felt there was probably
Speaker 1: a player too on every roster that was taking a
Speaker 1: more than a ham sandwich in a twenty. But you
Speaker 1: just don't know, and so you can't speculate in individual
Speaker 1: players or teams. But I think Vegas and Miami are perfect.
Speaker 1: Phoenix nothing against it, but you've got Scottsdale over there,
Speaker 1: Glendale over there, Downtown Phoenix. They cut it into threes.
Speaker 1: Miami's got perfect weather. New Orleans is fine. Although New Orleans.
Speaker 1: To spend a week in New Orleans, you kind of
Speaker 1: run out of things to do besides drink and eat.
Speaker 1: And I think Las Vegas, I mean, you can golf,
Speaker 1: The golf is stunning, you can gamble, you can shop.
Speaker 1: I mean if you wanted to a couple of days
Speaker 1: go to Los Angeles, It's a forty minute flight. So
Speaker 1: I think Vegas is a perfect spot. I think the
Speaker 1: stigma would legalized gambling was always silly. I mean, there
Speaker 1: are those of us that I've been talking about gambling
Speaker 1: on the air my entire career. There's no stigma. Every
Speaker 1: guy I know gambles. I gamble everybody I know, and
Speaker 1: I gamble responsibly. I think ninety nine percent of people
Speaker 1: do Do people eat responsibly? Do they always drink responsibly?
Speaker 1: Do they always drive responsibly? There's always going to be
Speaker 1: people that are irresponsible, But I think Vegas works, and
Speaker 1: especially having a covered stadium. You know, Dallas can get
Speaker 1: really cold in the winter, and Miami does not rain,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't get terribly cold. So if you know
Speaker 1: this idea that you have to mix it up around
Speaker 1: the country, no, you don't. We hold Marty Gron one place.
Speaker 1: You know, Rock and Eve in one place. A lot
Speaker 1: of Hollywood Awards are in one place. You have to
Speaker 1: move everything. You don't have to. Super Bowl would be
Speaker 1: two three places. I'd be totally okay with it. And
Speaker 1: I just think from the people I talked to I
Speaker 1: talked to about four former players, about three current players,
Speaker 1: members of the media, advertisers, and everybody said, this is
Speaker 1: the hotel capital of North America. There's great restaurants everywhere.
Speaker 1: There's multiple things to do. I remember going to a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl in Jacksonville where they literally had one hotel.
Speaker 1: They had to bring in cruise ships and they ended
Speaker 1: up with Super Bowl. I never bought into this. Well,
Speaker 1: you got to share the super Bowl. I don't want
Speaker 1: it in Kansas City. It's too cold in February. Let's
Speaker 1: put the best players in the world under a dome
Speaker 1: in cold weather or in warm weather. Don't let the
Speaker 1: weather dictate the outcome. The weather bad weather, Ows's always
Speaker 1: punishes the greater quarterbacks, you know. I mean it's like you,
Speaker 1: you don't want to reduce the effectiveness of Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: or Tom Brady in their prime. It's December. Games happen,
Speaker 1: but if you can avoid it with a neutral field game,
Speaker 1: you don't schedule potential blizzards. Let's bring in Chad Millman's
Speaker 1: CEO Action Network, all as provided by DraftKings. I actually
Speaker 1: think this is an intriguing Super Bowl. So the Niners
Speaker 1: last time here were a stacked defensive roster limitations offensively, now,
Speaker 1: they're historically gifted a top five running back ever, CMC,
Speaker 1: top left tackle five ever, a top ten tight end ever.
Speaker 1: De bow is one of the top multi usage players
Speaker 1: I can ever remember. I mean, they win seventy percent
Speaker 1: of the games with him, forty seven percent without him.
Speaker 1: And then you have Brandon Ayuk, who has really surged
Speaker 1: this year to become an elite top seven to eight
Speaker 1: wide receiver. In fact, the weakness you would say is, well,
Speaker 1: the quarterback doesn't throw a great deep ball. Quarterback's not
Speaker 1: great if the weather's bad. But I think Kansas City's
Speaker 1: defense really great defenses. We think of them Ray Lewis.
Speaker 1: We can name the players you know, Bosa Butck Kiss
Speaker 1: or Richard Dent. You can name great players from great defenses.
Speaker 1: Right Kansas City, You're like, well, I like Chris Jones,
Speaker 1: best corners in the league, incredibly active wide receivers, multiple paths.
Speaker 1: They had nine more sacks than the Niners, twenty six
Speaker 1: more pressures. I think this is an all time classic
Speaker 1: gifted offense and one of the most undervalued defenses I
Speaker 1: can ever remember. So I like the under forty seven
Speaker 1: and a half. I think there's gonna be yards and
Speaker 1: explosion plays, but not a lot of touchdowns. What do
Speaker 1: you think.
Speaker 2: I think you've hit on all of the things that
Speaker 2: make this such an interesting game to analyze for betters.
Speaker 2: Take this game, put it in week five, Make the
Speaker 2: Niners two point favorites.
Speaker 3: No one. No one's betting and being like, yeah, it
Speaker 3: seems about right. I don't really see an edge.
Speaker 2: But because it's the Super Bowl, people feel like they
Speaker 2: need to figure out what side they want to be on,
Speaker 2: and they are ignoring the total. I will tell you
Speaker 2: right now. Professional betters have been coming in on the
Speaker 2: under in this game for ten days at this point,
Speaker 2: and it's really interesting. The over up until about forty
Speaker 2: eight hours ago was getting fifty seven, fifty eight to
Speaker 2: fifty nine percent of the tickets, meaning that's what the
Speaker 2: squares the public are doing, and the under was getting
Speaker 2: about sixty percent of the money. That's professional betters. In
Speaker 2: the last forty eight hours, the under is now also
Speaker 2: getting the majority of the tickets, and the under is
Speaker 2: getting the majority of the money. So I do think
Speaker 2: you'll see this number go down a little bit. I
Speaker 2: bet the under I will probably end up being heavier
Speaker 2: on the under than I will on the side.
Speaker 1: I like Kansas City plus two, the Mahomes factor and
Speaker 1: Andy Reid with extra time. But I do think think
Speaker 1: there's something that's fairly obvious is that in five of
Speaker 1: eight quarters in the playoffs, and I judge that against
Speaker 1: average defenses Detroit Green Bay at home, Rock Purty was
Speaker 1: incredibly pedestrian. Mahomes at Buffalo at Baltimore minus twenty seven
Speaker 1: degrees didn't have a bad quarter. I can't wrap my
Speaker 1: brain around Brock pretty struggling against significantly less talented defenses
Speaker 1: at home. He'll be nervous. Kyle Shanahan may be tight.
Speaker 1: Given the history this defense is they allowed seventeen points
Speaker 1: a game in a league that has pivoted in a
Speaker 1: conference with all the best quarterbacks in the league that's
Speaker 1: pivoted offense. And if you go look at who the
Speaker 1: Chiefs faced, it was a it was GoF, it was
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, it was Jalen Hurts, it was Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: regular and post. They never allowed over thirty points, did
Speaker 1: three times, and they mostly faced Sam Howells, Gino, Drew Lock.
Speaker 1: Like I think the gap in defense, you just know
Speaker 1: some of the Niner players. I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: great defense, do you no?
Speaker 2: And I think you're hitting the nail on the head.
Speaker 2: And why I like the Chiefs at plus two. I
Speaker 2: actually bet them at plus two and a half. And
Speaker 2: this opened ten days ago. This Chiefs defense, you just
Speaker 2: mentioned some things they did during the regular season, second
Speaker 2: lowest scoring defense in the NFL, just behind by fractions
Speaker 2: of a point the Baltimore Ravens in the playoffs against
Speaker 2: three of the most vaunted, high powered offensives through the
Speaker 2: entire season to un road the Bills, the Ravens allowed
Speaker 2: an average of four points per game in the second half.
Speaker 2: And I think the real incredible. It's incredible, and I
Speaker 2: think the real key to this game. And it's also
Speaker 2: why people like the under Andy Reid this season has
Speaker 2: played more conservative lead in the second half. He is
Speaker 2: not because not on purpose, but the offensive game plan
Speaker 2: has been slower. I believe they both want to go slow.
Speaker 2: I believe both of these teams believe in their kickers.
Speaker 2: At least the Chiefs really do. Kyle Shannon is not
Speaker 2: the kind of guy to go forward and fourth down.
Speaker 2: You are less likely to do it when you're facing
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes when you believe in your defense, like I
Speaker 2: think the Niners do. I think the key to this
Speaker 2: game really is going to be how the defensive coordinators
Speaker 2: adjust in the second half and if the Chiefs get
Speaker 2: out to a lead, how is that going to spook
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan. How is that going to spook Rock Purty.
Speaker 2: We've seen it all offseason. The best quarterbacks in the
Speaker 2: game make bad decisions when they fall behind. Against Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 2: he is a complete model wrecker. You cannot account for
Speaker 2: that in any of the handicapping, And a lot of
Speaker 2: the conversations this week about handicapping this game have been
Speaker 2: about how do you account for recency bias with what
Speaker 2: the Chiefs have been doing? And how do you account
Speaker 2: for what the Niners have done all season long? And
Speaker 2: I think that you have to consider is recency bias
Speaker 2: something that is a better indication of how the Chiefs
Speaker 2: have gotten better, how Andy Reid has changed his game
Speaker 2: plan and to bringing full circle, how Steve Spagnola has
Speaker 2: made adjustments in the second half of every game this season,
Speaker 2: but especially in the last six weeks of this season.
Speaker 2: I think that'll be the key. We've seen it in
Speaker 2: every playoff game this year. And by the way, we
Speaker 2: didn't see Steve Wilkes do that. The Lions lost that
Speaker 2: game because the Lions made bad plays, not because the
Speaker 2: Niners all of a sudden. We're playing so much better defensively,
Speaker 2: and I think you've got a zone heavy scheme on
Speaker 2: defense against Patrick Mahomes, whose receivers don't have very big
Speaker 2: average depths of target. You're sending yours thought to get
Speaker 2: sort of dink and dined until the Chiefs are scoring,
Speaker 2: and then you're.
Speaker 1: Bout Mahomes, and Mahomes has become more comfortable with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this season it's exactly you know. I would say Andy
Speaker 1: Reid and Steve Spagnola are the best coaching due in
Speaker 1: the league. I do think Demiko Ryans and Bobby Slow
Speaker 1: for Houston are the best young coaching combination in the league.
Speaker 1: But I don't think Steve Wilkes. I think he's been
Speaker 1: a downgrade from Demiko Ryans. They're not as good as
Speaker 1: in the red zone. They're pass rush, they don't generate
Speaker 1: the pass rush outside of Bosa. So I think what
Speaker 1: we're looking at is and I think you hit on something.
Speaker 1: There's two whammys that work in Kansas City's favorite. Mahomes
Speaker 1: screws with everybody's head. You tend to call a more
Speaker 1: aggressive game because of Mahomes. Nobody's calling wacky plays because
Speaker 1: it brought pretty maybe the opposite. Secondly, Kyle's lost games
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl he had won. Does Andy Reid
Speaker 1: get into his head? Does it get into his head?
Speaker 1: I asked Drew Brees that today. I said, you know,
Speaker 1: you go to the Super Bowl. You didn't have this litany.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Niners have been great for thirty years.
Speaker 1: Mostly they haven't won since ninety four. This team has
Speaker 1: been great for six years. Right, that shit gets tight, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I can say whatever you want. This is going to
Speaker 1: be a loose Kansas City team with the best head
Speaker 1: coach and DC duo in the league, playing with confidence,
Speaker 1: an underdog. I think if it's close laid, I think
Speaker 1: all the intangibles go to Kansas City.
Speaker 2: I've got a cowherd take on this. Patrick Mahomes isn't
Speaker 2: playing just to win this title. He's playing for legacy.
Speaker 2: And Patrick Mahomes is such a gifted player. We're talking
Speaker 2: about people who we're talking about a guy who is
Speaker 2: at the top of his craft potentially beyond Tom Brady,
Speaker 2: and the path he will be on if he wins
Speaker 2: this game is far beyond the accomplishments of just one season.
Speaker 2: And I think he's a game wrecker, as we said,
Speaker 2: because he can think beyond that and he will not
Speaker 2: shrink in the moment. And I think to your point
Speaker 2: about Shanahan, to your point about brock Party, and I
Speaker 2: don't think this is necessarily specific to them, but in
Speaker 2: this case it will be. Then Mahomes makes you do
Speaker 2: things you wouldn't normally do. And if you've got the
Speaker 2: monkey on your back because you haven't been able to
Speaker 2: close the deal in the Super Bowl and you're going
Speaker 2: against Patrick Mahomes, Let's remember Patrick Mahomes lost the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl against the Bucks because he had no healthy offensive
Speaker 2: pack line none. Like all of these things, you get
Speaker 2: clarity looking back in history. So I do think that
Speaker 2: the context of Mahomes playing for legacy and being driven
Speaker 2: enough to know that's what he's playing for beyond this season,
Speaker 2: I think that's an X factor.
Speaker 1: So one of the pri don't do a ton of props,
Speaker 1: but brock Purty over under two hundred and forty seven
Speaker 1: passing yards, so Brandon Ayuku is sensational, but you're talking
Speaker 1: about Sneed's an elite corner that when he guards you.
Speaker 1: The quarterback has sixty five passer rating in a fifty
Speaker 1: two percent completion rate. You can put Snead McDuffie's also excellent.
Speaker 1: So I don't think they'll beat the Chiefs over the top.
Speaker 1: They could dink and dunk, but I'm Kyle Shanahan. There's
Speaker 1: a fairly obvious way to map this game out. I
Speaker 1: want to see mahomes as little as possible, a lot
Speaker 1: of Debo, a lot of Christian McCaffrey and Deebo in
Speaker 1: some running sets, which we know we can do, but
Speaker 1: it felt like he did more of that pre content
Speaker 1: pre contract than both. I don't have the data to
Speaker 1: support that. But the way to win this game for
Speaker 1: them is I'm not putting it on brock pretty shoulders
Speaker 1: and we're not going to get cheap yards over the top.
Speaker 1: This is a Deebo Christian McCaffrey game. Secondly, is that
Speaker 1: San Francisco and I can't figure it out because nobody's
Speaker 1: tied to their play sheet, and more than Kyle Shanahan,
Speaker 1: they've not been a great first quarter team in the
Speaker 1: playoffs out played him. Detroit out played him. So it's like,
Speaker 1: you're not going to get major yards early. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be fairly cautious, I would think with Brock pretty early
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl right like, they're not going explosion plays.
Speaker 1: You're not going to get cheap crap over the top
Speaker 1: because the Chiefs pass rush is excellent and their corners are,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, the best young corners in the game.
Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised to forty seven's a lot of yards
Speaker 1: when you have Christian McCaffrey. That's all against the Chiefs defense.
Speaker 1: Baltimore was reluctant to run. They could have. You know,
Speaker 1: Gus Edwards first run was fifteen yards, his second carry
Speaker 1: was in the second half. They could have run, So
Speaker 1: that number to me seems high.
Speaker 2: Well, look, Colin, I had Gus Edwards over forty and
Speaker 2: a half rushing yards, and when he ran, so did
Speaker 2: I for fifteen yards on that first play. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm golden, Like I'm watching in the action app and
Speaker 2: I see like his percentage chance of covering that was
Speaker 2: like eighty percent, and then it was seventy, and then
Speaker 2: it was sixty and then it was fifty and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, he ran one more time the entire game.
Speaker 2: And that, by the way, is indicative of how coaches
Speaker 2: and players change their game plan and change their style
Speaker 2: when you're playing Patrick Mahomes, I think the Niners. I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to avoid your question. I don't have a
Speaker 2: strong opinion on Perdy. I would probably lean to the under.
Speaker 2: I think it's lined about right. I don't see a
Speaker 2: huge edge in Brock Purdy in his passing yardage. I
Speaker 2: think I do see Deebo Samuel over his receiving yardage
Speaker 2: as a bonus because I think he's going to line
Speaker 2: up in the slot. And I think that's a little
Speaker 2: bit of an advantage because you're not having to go
Speaker 2: against really good corners against the Chiefs, and you're going
Speaker 2: against smaller linebackers, and so if they are going to
Speaker 2: find some success, that could be where it is.
Speaker 3: And I also agree with you.
Speaker 2: Look, if the Niners are winning this game, they're doing
Speaker 2: it on the ground, thrashing a mediocre Chief's Brolin defense.
Speaker 2: I won't say terrible Chiefs run defense, it's mediocre. It's
Speaker 2: a mediocre defense. So I think the advantage here is
Speaker 2: to run McCaffrey and run Deebo Samuel. Do what I say,
Speaker 2: you're betting over the McCaffrey yardage. I don't think so,
Speaker 2: because I do think that the Chiefs know they'd almost
Speaker 2: rather put the ball in brock Perty's hands than let
Speaker 2: McCaffrey beat him, because he is so talented. So those
Speaker 2: are a couple of tricky props I think to bet.
Speaker 2: I will tell you one bet that I love that
Speaker 2: I think is underpriced right now.
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey. First rush over.
Speaker 2: Three and a half yards happens sixty to sixty five
Speaker 2: percent at the time, and then the circumstances, and then
Speaker 2: the percentage increases with circumstances like we are looking at
Speaker 2: this week with the defense that isn't quite as good
Speaker 2: as what the Niners were always facing. So if you're
Speaker 2: looking for sort of a sneaky fun prop, that'll be
Speaker 2: over quickly. They're right away if you're gonna in that one.
Speaker 2: But that's one that I like.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm going to defend the Chiefs run
Speaker 1: defense a little, not overwhelmingly, but you don't play catch
Speaker 1: up with the Chiefs like you used to, So people
Speaker 1: simply run more against Kansas City. In previous years, the
Speaker 1: Chiefs defense was viewed who they don't allow many rushing yards. Cauz,
Speaker 1: you're aus trailing. This Chief team has been trailing, so
Speaker 1: people aren't getting into shootouts. And when you don't get
Speaker 1: into shootouts with Mahomes, you find comfort in running and
Speaker 1: eating the clock because Mahomes is in your head. So
Speaker 1: people are much more willing to run against Kansas City.
Speaker 1: I don't think their run defense is bad. They're too
Speaker 1: athletic a linebacker for it to be bad. They really
Speaker 1: have good, twitchy linebackers. Yeah, but this defense has the
Speaker 1: best corners, an excellent pass rush, so people attack the
Speaker 1: run game more, and I think, again, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a great run defense. It's not Baltimore, but I
Speaker 1: think it's a little overc gust how poor it is
Speaker 1: based on if you knew you didn't have to get
Speaker 1: into a shootout with Mahomes, you'd want to run the
Speaker 1: damn clock, so we'd get two less possessions. So people
Speaker 1: go into a week and say we're going to commit
Speaker 1: to the run. Well, if you commit to the run,
Speaker 1: you run the ball more, and you run the ball
Speaker 1: with more success. So I think people have gone into
Speaker 1: games with Kansas City thinking, hey, we got to be
Speaker 1: good situationally in the red zone because when we get chances,
Speaker 1: we got to score touchdown not field goals. That was forever,
Speaker 1: that's been the mantra with Kansas City. You got to
Speaker 1: get touchdowns, not field goals. Teams go for it and
Speaker 1: fourth down you don't really have to with this team.
Speaker 1: I bring the ball. So I think the defense for
Speaker 1: Kansas City is excellent against the pass. I think it's
Speaker 1: okay against the run.
Speaker 2: Good enough, good right, And I think that to bring
Speaker 2: a full circle, that plays into why we like the
Speaker 2: under and the game script that we're expecting is going
Speaker 2: to be that both teams play some kind of ball
Speaker 2: control offense, which is really what they've been doing all year.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: These have not been explosive from a Niners perspective, not
Speaker 2: I mean a Chiefs perspective, not an explosive offense, and
Speaker 2: the Niners, while they can be explosive, are more than
Speaker 2: likely recognizing that their ability to win this game is
Speaker 2: going to be dependent on their ability to run the ball.
Speaker 2: So as long as they can be committed to that,
Speaker 2: I like our chances on the under. Do I think
Speaker 2: do I think either side is a lock?
Speaker 3: Not really.
Speaker 2: I will say one thing you want to consider when
Speaker 2: teams win the Super Bowl, they tend to win by
Speaker 2: a field goal or more so, if you really like
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Another fun alternative bet to make Chiefs minus
Speaker 2: two and a half at plus one thirty one thirty
Speaker 2: five because you're getting better odds, and if you think
Speaker 2: it's going to be a close game and the Chiefs
Speaker 2: are going to win, might have will take the Chiefs
Speaker 2: that minus two and a half, which is the limit
Speaker 2: of where you want to be. I'm sort of taking
Speaker 2: an at line here and getting a little bit of
Speaker 2: extra juice.
Speaker 1: Chad Milman been great. My three teamer is Chiefs plus
Speaker 1: two under and Brock under two hundred and forty seven
Speaker 1: passing yards. Give me a three teamer very quickly.
Speaker 2: I will take Chiefs plus two. I will take the under,
Speaker 2: and I will take Deebo Samuel over fifty eight and
Speaker 2: a half receiving yards.
Speaker 1: I think you're right on that. You know, the air
Speaker 1: thing with him, bubble screens, he gets cheap yards. He
Speaker 1: gets those, he turns four into nine like three times
Speaker 1: a game. You get a lot of cheap stuff.
Speaker 3: Ri Trent Williams out in front of him, best a
Speaker 3: lineman in football.
Speaker 1: Come on, nothing cheap about that living room boy.
Speaker 3: That is dude, I am in a listen. You'll appreciate this.
Speaker 2: And we didn't, you know, we saw each other last
Speaker 2: night at the Amazing Volume party that thing dude three
Speaker 2: years ago, four years ago in La I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, one hundred and fifty people in a backyard
Speaker 2: by the pool last night. I don't even know how
Speaker 2: many people were at this place last night, but it
Speaker 2: was massive and full of star power. And I was
Speaker 2: like telling somebody that you know and you can appreciate this.
Speaker 2: I first started coming out to Vegas to write my
Speaker 2: book The Odds, about these guys who've been on sports
Speaker 2: for a living.
Speaker 3: Yeah, interplay between bookmakers and betters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty five years ago, right, and you know, some
Speaker 2: of the guys that I was profiling, like Boston Red
Speaker 2: and the guys at the Stardust were the book makers
Speaker 2: that I profiled. One of the guys that I profiled
Speaker 2: is now the CEO at the Mirage Hotel.
Speaker 3: So I came in. It's Joe loopo Oh, I know
Speaker 3: the name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And so Joe Lupo is now the CEO
Speaker 2: at the Mirage Hotel, and so I came into town,
Speaker 2: and like he sets me up in a room that
Speaker 2: is so freaking big. I've got a bathroom on one
Speaker 2: side of the room and an equally large bathroom on
Speaker 2: the other side of the room. And I've got a
Speaker 2: grand marble foyer. I've got a sweep that is so
Speaker 2: high roller. When I go to check in, the question
Speaker 2: is what kind of line of credit would you like?
Speaker 2: It's not like, do you need a line of credit,
Speaker 2: It's automatically assumed I need a line of credit. When
Speaker 2: I walked in, I was sitting there checking in. A
Speaker 2: guy walked in behind me. He's on his phone saying
Speaker 2: to a guy I don't know who he's talking to her.
Speaker 2: He's like, listen, I'm gonna need another one hundred grand
Speaker 2: on the line of credit. I'm already down one hundred grand.
Speaker 2: I haven't even checked in. It'll be fine, don't worry
Speaker 2: about it. I started with two fifty. Let's put another
Speaker 2: one hundred grand in there breaks out a way of cash,
Speaker 2: Like it's a different game here, just a different game.
Speaker 3: But no, it's like, but you.
Speaker 2: Were here, you started your career here, like the fact
Speaker 2: that the Super Bowl is here, that there's professional hockey here,
Speaker 2: that they're talking about baseball here, even though sports betting
Speaker 2: is not as big a thing here if you look
Speaker 2: at the numbers, that is like kind of irrelevant as
Speaker 2: a sports betting market.
Speaker 3: It's annoying, but it's a major league sportstown.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give you a ninety second sports story. I
Speaker 1: arrive in Las Vegas. I drive in. I drive in,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna meet my boss out of college at
Speaker 1: the circus Circus. I get there about an hour early,
Speaker 1: drive in, driving as fast as I can at my
Speaker 1: AMC pacer. I arrive and my mom's checking on me,
Speaker 1: like every six hours. How am I doing. I get
Speaker 1: to the circus circus. I put a quarter in a slot.
Speaker 1: I went seventy five dollars first pull. I went to
Speaker 1: a phone. I called my mom. I said, Mom, love
Speaker 1: this town. Don't send money and at I never ever
Speaker 1: in seven years pulled another handle at one. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: first pull, seventy five bucks, never one again ever.
Speaker 3: No, it's so funny. I checked when I was checking
Speaker 3: in yesterday.
Speaker 2: I was in this room, like this super VIP room
Speaker 2: where you go to check in, and they needed like
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes to finish cleaning up my massive suite, and
Speaker 2: so I had a little bit of work to do.
Speaker 2: I pulled on my computer and I was responding to
Speaker 2: a slack from the CFO of our company, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, let me just do this and I'll finish
Speaker 2: this in ten minutes. And he goes, what are you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, my room's not ready yet. He goes,
Speaker 2: your room's not ready and you're responding to me instead
Speaker 2: of going to gamble right now. I'm like, guy, I
Speaker 2: got to pace myself. I'm not losing all my money
Speaker 2: in the first fifteen minutes I'm here. I want to
Speaker 2: leave up. I'm going to be very disciplined about this.
Speaker 2: You don't get rich taking money out of your pockets. Colin,
Speaker 2: That's what I say.
Speaker 1: Chad Melman, CCO Action Network. I got to go pick
Speaker 1: up my wife at the airport, my beautiful wife.
Speaker 3: You're talking about it. So yeah, the volume.
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