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Speaker 4: Did you?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to interrupt you, but did you even celebrate Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3: Because you're in Canada?
Speaker 1: I think they celebrated it while I was at work
Speaker 1: and I didn't notice. I think they do a different
Speaker 1: day up here.
Speaker 3: But so yeah, did you literally work on Thanksgiving up here?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Sean Oh, I think so.
Speaker 3: It just didn't exist. Did you call home at least
Speaker 3: and say I call.
Speaker 1: Home like five times a day and then twice at night?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Did I call home? That's all
Speaker 1: you all I do? Season six, Episode ten, He's slipping
Speaker 1: the bread, you dig.
Speaker 3: I didn't get the title.
Speaker 5: I didn't either.
Speaker 1: I like it's the tambourine guy vibe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't get it.
Speaker 4: Slipping the bread like giving them money, like referring to.
Speaker 1: Christ bread Dig. He's slipping a bread you dig?
Speaker 3: Joel the tambourine guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joel guy. Let's synopsize before we get into all
Speaker 1: of our many varied narratives here. Whose synopsisization is Queen's
Speaker 1: is all? I am joined by my interrapid crew Susanne French,
Speaker 1: Tara sud Amy Sugarman who if she's late, she's on time.
Speaker 1: If she's on time, she's way early my motel.
Speaker 3: Scott, you are looking like a botty babe in this episode.
Speaker 3: Sorry to be creepy. Okay, so I won't even out
Speaker 3: the person. But we we have a new producer that's
Speaker 3: not on this show but working with us. And I
Speaker 3: was with her and her mom the other day and
Speaker 3: she's like, I don't believe you work with Scott Patterson.
Speaker 3: You only if you work with Scott Patterson. He is
Speaker 3: a hunk. And I go, I know, it's so awkward.
Speaker 3: I have to like tell him.
Speaker 1: All right, we can. We can synopsize now, thanks, all right,
Speaker 1: this is let's everybody just keep their flannel on. Please
Speaker 1: just take it easy.
Speaker 4: This is season six, episode ten, He's slipping and Red
Speaker 4: You Dig. This aired on November twenty second two two
Speaker 4: thousand and five, And just a note for those that
Speaker 4: are following the timing is this was the last episode
Speaker 4: before the holiday break and the next episode did not
Speaker 4: air until January tenth.
Speaker 6: Oh good call out, Susan. So everyone excited that Rory
Speaker 6: is back. Lorelai tells Rory that Christopher called, but the
Speaker 6: news he drops gives Laurela I mixed feelings. Hep Alien
Speaker 6: is set to play a big gig, but Zach's ambitions
Speaker 6: for the band ruin everything, and Luke confides in Liz
Speaker 6: about his new daughter, April.
Speaker 4: But has yet to tell Laura. I.
Speaker 1: Hmm, half, so we discussed this queen thing. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to you know, listen, Suzanne's doing really well,
Speaker 1: but she is the new kid on the block. Terra's
Speaker 1: been around. Shouldn't Tara be the queen?
Speaker 5: There was one common sort.
Speaker 1: Suzanne could be queen consort.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's it when you're waiting to be queen.
Speaker 4: Waiting?
Speaker 5: Actually it's more like prince. Wouldn't it be princess? Like
Speaker 5: princess Kate. You'd be a princess Kate.
Speaker 3: I will say I need to hit up Danielle. Even
Speaker 3: though she's on maternity because I did see in the
Speaker 3: comments an epic idea, because they're like, we need to
Speaker 3: know what Danielle is experiencing because she's the one who's
Speaker 3: never seen it. So I do think when she comes back,
Speaker 3: we're going to have to do like some sort of
Speaker 3: special mini series with her to catch her up.
Speaker 5: I feel like I cheated because I was texting her
Speaker 5: and asking about the baby the other day and she's
Speaker 5: following along week by week.
Speaker 1: We'll call them daniellisodes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but she's following like she's on the same track
Speaker 5: we are.
Speaker 3: That's great. Better she better be taken notes because everyone's
Speaker 3: going to want to know what she I thought for
Speaker 3: the first.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to say what she told me, so
Speaker 5: I let her.
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, I think I think Suzanne and Tara
Speaker 1: can share the throne for sure.
Speaker 3: I know I'm not on it, neither of you.
Speaker 1: No no, no, You and I are king. You and
Speaker 1: I are not. We are are we dukes duchess where
Speaker 1: we're peasants? Damn it, damn I was hoping for higher
Speaker 1: rank you guys.
Speaker 3: Can I just throw out there that half of this
Speaker 3: episode is a ten to me and half is like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I totally. I hope we agree on the parts that
Speaker 3: were the two I.
Speaker 1: Hope we do. I hope we don't, because then we
Speaker 1: can have friction, which creates heat, get a fire.
Speaker 3: I already love this episode. Today we are a ten
Speaker 3: out of ten. You know what was funny so to
Speaker 3: start the show on our show, but that the show
Speaker 3: Gil Those pink boots were pretty iconic, like they immediately
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, I remember those boots.
Speaker 3: Just putting the pink boots on. First of all, her
Speaker 3: new bedroom looks.
Speaker 1: It's good, really good.
Speaker 3: You did a good job. I did.
Speaker 1: I slept in that bed wait for real. Well during
Speaker 1: the like a Map or like Netflix episodes, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I did notice that the bathroom tile is the same
Speaker 3: as the kitchen tile. Did anybody notice that like they did?
Speaker 3: Prop department might have had leftover tile because it's very
Speaker 3: unique yellow and green tile in the bathroom same as
Speaker 3: the kitchen.
Speaker 1: Humm, interesting double construction notes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure they just had some tile and a
Speaker 3: drawer somewhere in.
Speaker 1: The should do like a it's like a tool time
Speaker 1: with Amy.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming the sinks didn't work.
Speaker 1: They didn't work. It didn't work.
Speaker 3: Also Laura, Well, Lauren does a lot of fake hair
Speaker 3: sort of you know, when she's acting, she does a lot.
Speaker 1: Of like hair acting. There's hair acting. Can she hair
Speaker 1: act and face act at the same time, you totally could, yeah,
Speaker 1: And could you combine it could be like fair acting
Speaker 1: or face acting.
Speaker 3: Somebody did I acting the other day too.
Speaker 1: They were eyeballs, Yeah, I acting right there you go.
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure why she hasn't met paul Anka.
Speaker 3: That felt weird to me, but okay, fine.
Speaker 1: And that opening did that opening.
Speaker 4: Drag you did?
Speaker 3: It was really long.
Speaker 1: It was off right. It's sort of like their timing
Speaker 1: was off the it just was a little off. It
Speaker 1: was good to see them together. Ye and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: just like I actually.
Speaker 3: Said to myself, Oh, sorry, targe ahead.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say that. You mean the whole sugar
Speaker 5: on the toes part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't, you know. The virgo in me did
Speaker 1: not like the spillage.
Speaker 5: Oh my god. I was like, why.
Speaker 4: Was she holding it like three feet in the air,
Speaker 4: Like why would you bend over.
Speaker 1: Poured half the ball on our toes Like.
Speaker 3: The same thing where I was like, oh, this is
Speaker 3: really messy, and that's messy because.
Speaker 5: So sticky, and then walking through the the dog might
Speaker 5: like you, but the mice you're gonna get are going
Speaker 5: to be a problem.
Speaker 1: Right, It's like the answer now, like you know, calling
Speaker 1: up the reserve troops.
Speaker 5: Also, I don't think you're suposed to give dogs sugar, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's processed sugar for the dog? You know, paul
Speaker 1: Anka turns into r I p doggie. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I did like her sneakers, but the whole thing on
Speaker 3: the one shoe, all of it really did not. It
Speaker 3: was a little bit like, I'm uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: They kind of fit though, because they're just getting back
Speaker 4: together after a long separation and so things are still
Speaker 4: kind of awkward and they just feel kind of weird,
Speaker 4: so it kind of fit a little bit.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought she was playing playing a gag
Speaker 1: on Rory, but they actually went through of it.
Speaker 4: It's like she was because at the end she's like, Oh,
Speaker 4: all you have to do is.
Speaker 1: The dog was actually licking her child.
Speaker 5: I'm like, but she was like, yeah, you know, she
Speaker 5: said like the sugar is not needed, like he loves
Speaker 5: you know or whatever. She says.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is that yellow kitchen table new or is that
Speaker 3: the same table the whole time. I actually it wasn't
Speaker 3: yellow original I noticed.
Speaker 5: I was like, that's not really. It does look like
Speaker 5: a comfortable kitchen table.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just got an eclectic mix of sort of weird
Speaker 3: retro antiques mixed with clutter, mixed with like kind of
Speaker 3: nice I don't know. Yeah, very Yeah, but that was long.
Speaker 3: I thought, have I already seen the opening credits? Like
Speaker 3: it's hiding?
Speaker 4: It was really long.
Speaker 1: That opening scene was very long.
Speaker 3: Bop it. Although I love the I love the off
Speaker 3: camera sound effects that you know, like especially Scott when
Speaker 3: you're off camera, and then we heard the bop it
Speaker 3: and the hat box actually was kind of cool. That
Speaker 3: was sort of a cool, touching moment. That was a
Speaker 3: bit throughout the episodes.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that Lenny Kravitz call out because I
Speaker 1: thought the same thing, like, exactly, how is this guy
Speaker 1: able to afford all these things? You know? But he
Speaker 1: But the thing is is he like tours all the time,
Speaker 1: k and he sold a pajillion records when you could
Speaker 1: sell records.
Speaker 3: Totally, and he's crazy crazy big venues, big venues. Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 3: but he's been around for a while.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also I don't think he you know, his mom was
Speaker 3: on the Jeffersons, So it's not like he grew up
Speaker 3: like struggling.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know he's a Hollywood kid. Doesn't
Speaker 1: mean he's rich, rich rich, but no, but he wasn't
Speaker 1: like but the guy. Yeah, I mean he's he's a
Speaker 1: monster musician and he sells out all the venues, the
Speaker 1: big one.
Speaker 3: We just saw Lenny Kravitz, I was, I said, really,
Speaker 3: we just saw him.
Speaker 1: You saw him.
Speaker 3: I know, I feel bad because you couldn't go because
Speaker 3: you were working. But he was at the iHeartRadio Music Festival.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 3: That's and one of our one of our producers. He
Speaker 3: walked by her and there's randomly someone was shooting like
Speaker 3: a photo or a video on her face. It was
Speaker 3: Eileen and someone else and the face is like I
Speaker 3: love him so much. I love him so much.
Speaker 5: I like, I like just got a peek of like
Speaker 5: half of a song just because I was like, I
Speaker 5: need to see him live for like two minutes.
Speaker 3: Also, way to go Loreli that you are still rocking
Speaker 3: the way too. Skinny scarf, the purple just so so
Speaker 3: skinny scarf. That's providing no warmth whatsoe.
Speaker 4: It's supposed to be fall in Connecticut, and she's wearing
Speaker 4: like this one inch whitecar.
Speaker 3: And then they had matching blazers. Also fashion was coming
Speaker 3: and coming in hot on this episode. So okay. So
Speaker 3: then we're walking through town, Kirk's doing tai chie, which
Speaker 3: here's the thing, don't knock tight chie because I do
Speaker 3: tai chi and it's awesome.
Speaker 1: They went after tai chi on this show, and I
Speaker 1: got a little riled up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because anybody.
Speaker 1: It was one moment the Kirk wasn't funny. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was funny is but he was doing it well, yes
Speaker 1: it was. It was jarring, and.
Speaker 3: His outfit was good. He had a bright blue sweatsuit.
Speaker 3: But yeah, tai chi rocks. Like if you have anxiety,
Speaker 3: tight chee is great for like it's like meditation basically.
Speaker 1: Mhmm.
Speaker 4: Did you notice when they're walking past the gazebo that
Speaker 4: they still had that little tiny gazebo from the No Stop,
Speaker 4: good Eye.
Speaker 3: No way. That is such a good Like.
Speaker 4: There was like a guy sitting in there.
Speaker 3: Remember what episode was that when Kurt it was it
Speaker 3: was the Sores and Boyles Alley episode, and Kirk was
Speaker 3: sitting in there and Laurel.
Speaker 4: I was upset that they took the the the inn
Speaker 4: off the map. It was like it was a couple episodes.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's and with someone in it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was some dude sitting.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Okay, So then we get to my
Speaker 3: one of my favorite, honestly one of my favorite moments
Speaker 3: of the episode. Hey, Rory you're back.
Speaker 4: Yay, so.
Speaker 1: Bone to pick flag? Here flag on the play? What's
Speaker 1: what's the Rory hug to Luke? It was like a
Speaker 1: half I missed that.
Speaker 4: It was like, here's my shoulder, here's.
Speaker 1: The shoulder, and it was like a block. It was
Speaker 1: like obstructing the hug. It was. She hugged Christopher full on.
Speaker 1: She hugged Suki.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't have to rewatch.
Speaker 4: It was weird. It was really awkward.
Speaker 1: I noticed that I may be calling an attorney in violence.
Speaker 5: WHOA.
Speaker 3: I just was so into the.
Speaker 1: Yeah you didn't notice that, did you know?
Speaker 3: I'm going to have to rewatch.
Speaker 1: I noticed the tiles, You notice the damn color on
Speaker 1: the table, but.
Speaker 3: I've noticed it before. But the mismatched chairs in the diner,
Speaker 3: that's like a thing at Loot.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to talk about something that happened in the show.
Speaker 3: Listen, do you think the hug was intentional or just
Speaker 3: like Alexis was like, I just didn't complete the hug because.
Speaker 1: I went back in my diary and said, did I
Speaker 1: wear deodorant that day?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it couldn't have been that take or was it?
Speaker 5: Like I don't know, do you think.
Speaker 1: It was Maybe she was just trying to get through
Speaker 1: the chair real fast. But given Luke the see that.
Speaker 3: Was that was my take just not I haven't seen it,
Speaker 3: but my take is like that Alexis was like nervous
Speaker 3: about like movements she had to make and dialogue.
Speaker 5: So it was like, hey, she's given awkward hugs before,
Speaker 5: Like she kind of has that awkward movement, so.
Speaker 4: She's an awkward hugger for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: My only my only flag on the play is I
Speaker 3: did find the receipt bit annoying. Look, you're talking about.
Speaker 5: The Mexican restaurant, like turn it over going and she's like,
Speaker 5: turn it do turn it out, turn it.
Speaker 3: I was like that was a wan wall for me,
Speaker 3: But whatever, I'm not here to judge. Oh wait, you
Speaker 3: are so okay? What about Scott? This is real we're
Speaker 3: seeing the beginnings of Luke hiding stuff. Nothing's new, nothing's new.
Speaker 3: Why do you ask that nothing's new?
Speaker 1: Oh well, I don't know. You know, we're getting into
Speaker 1: an odd, unpopular narrative here for Luke.
Speaker 5: Which, by the way, I was reading comments on our
Speaker 5: Instagram and I know we said like, oh, like everyone
Speaker 5: hates April, but a lot of people what they said,
Speaker 5: which I found interesting, was they don't hate the character,
Speaker 5: they hate the like what happened with the storyline and
Speaker 5: the way that Luke handles it. So I thought that
Speaker 5: was an interesting take, like moving forward on why fans
Speaker 5: are not are not fond of her storyline.
Speaker 3: So here's my tough question, Scott, knowing Luke as you
Speaker 3: do and knowing yourself as you do, say this situation
Speaker 3: happened to you or Luke, right, I understand taking a
Speaker 3: moment and sort of sorting it out before you tell
Speaker 3: the world. Do you think Luke should have told Lorlai immediately?
Speaker 1: Yes? I mean relationships are based on trust. If you
Speaker 1: don't do that, then the trust either diminishes or goes away.
Speaker 1: And we saw what happened. Now, these are situations when
Speaker 1: actors read scripts and they either step forward and say, hey,
Speaker 1: I've got an issue with this and can we discuss this.
Speaker 1: This just wasn't possible on the show. On other shows,
Speaker 1: it's possible most shows, I gather, it's not possible. On
Speaker 1: some shows, it is possible. And I think this is
Speaker 1: one such instance where, you know, I it just wasn't
Speaker 1: that kind of show where anybody consulted the actor. They
Speaker 1: were just too busy, and it was you know, we
Speaker 1: see how precise this writing is, and you know, they
Speaker 1: justify it in a million different ways that you can't
Speaker 1: think of, you know, that kind of thing. But you know,
Speaker 1: maybe this was an occasion where it was appropriate for
Speaker 1: somebody to step up and say, hey, let's rethink this,
Speaker 1: you know, because it's it's I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's out and out long term character destruction, but
Speaker 1: I think that's what the but that's what the fans
Speaker 1: are reacting to, is because this character is so beloved
Speaker 1: and laurel ized, so beloved, and their relationship is so beloved,
Speaker 1: and this is just going to wreck it and that
Speaker 1: and it's just sort of the way they made him
Speaker 1: hide it. It was just there was no real exper
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll watch the episodes. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't remember, but maybe there's a very good reason that
Speaker 1: I will find and point out and so well, and.
Speaker 3: You sort of acknowledge it. You acknowledge it in this
Speaker 3: episode with Liz, and I know we'll get to it.
Speaker 3: Things are so good and you love her right like
Speaker 3: we know that we've seen that so much. You don't
Speaker 3: want to mess it up. It's so important to you
Speaker 3: that I think you think, because you indicate to Liz
Speaker 3: like this could mess it up, and Liz says, it's
Speaker 3: not going to mess it up. But I get why
Speaker 3: you're worried about that.
Speaker 1: Absolute you know, Luke's a guy who doesn't have the
Speaker 1: best social skills or interpersonal skills within a relationship, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know it's I think it really just comes. He's
Speaker 1: not a bad guy. It's just that he got in
Speaker 1: a situation that was overwhelming. I mean, how would anybody
Speaker 1: else react to your you know, your daughter shows up
Speaker 1: twelve years later and you didn't know had a daughter.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a tough call. He wants you to
Speaker 1: be perfect and do the right thing, and I'll talk openly,
Speaker 1: and they don't want to consider the fact that you
Speaker 1: don't want to wreck a perfect situation that you've been
Speaker 1: sort of nurturing for so many years. And now here's
Speaker 1: you know, right at the point where we're going to
Speaker 1: set a wedding date. Right, oh boy, here this here
Speaker 1: comes this turkey you know.
Speaker 3: Well, and right now you're going off the words of
Speaker 3: a twelve year old, right, like you haven't connected with Anna,
Speaker 3: and this twelve year old comes out of nowhere and
Speaker 3: tells you this thing, which I appreciate that you're believing her,
Speaker 3: but like it does feel a little too soon just
Speaker 3: yet for you to talk to Laura about it. It
Speaker 3: maybe maybe not, Like I think you do need to
Speaker 3: talk to Amma first, get everything sort of straight, and
Speaker 3: then you go to Laura. Now he doesn't do that, but.
Speaker 1: But that's but that doesn't happen because that story isn't
Speaker 1: going to get developed to that degree, right, because it
Speaker 1: takes away screen time, screen time from what they consider
Speaker 1: to be their top narratives.
Speaker 3: Right yeah, And I think too, like some look, we
Speaker 3: always talk about the show like it's real life, which
Speaker 3: I like, But I think sometimes writers in writers' rooms
Speaker 3: thought this might be a spicy way to get something
Speaker 3: juicy going. I don't know that. They always know, Oh
Speaker 3: my god, the fans are going to hate this. I
Speaker 3: think they thought we can't just have it be happy, happy,
Speaker 3: happy unicorns, rainbows we've got We're making a show that's
Speaker 3: going another year, right.
Speaker 1: Of all the of all the options. Well, I think
Speaker 1: at that point, well maybe you're right. Maybe at that
Speaker 1: point and they knew Amy and Dan weren't getting a
Speaker 1: two year deal instead of got the offer. I don't
Speaker 1: know what stage that was in the writer's room and
Speaker 1: how much knowledge they had, and you know, whatever conspiracy
Speaker 1: theories are you're going to throw around, but you know,
Speaker 1: at season six, we were losing a little steam ratings wise,
Speaker 1: but not enough, and the advertisers really wanted us back
Speaker 1: for long term. They wanted a long term dudes, and
Speaker 1: they were putting a lot.
Speaker 3: Of pressure, but they would have liked to see it
Speaker 3: go ten.
Speaker 1: Twenty, yeah, fifteen, you know what I mean. It's like
Speaker 1: the advertisers were crazy for this show because it was
Speaker 1: just such a safe bet for them. Totally totally and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, So the right in the writer's room, you
Speaker 1: know they're probably thinking season ten, you know, it's going
Speaker 1: to go, go, go, go, go forever.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I think as a it's
Speaker 3: a it's an oldie but a goodie. Oh throw a
Speaker 3: random kid in there, like we've seen it before, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. It's not like we've seen it
Speaker 3: on so many shows. Literally, it was the it was
Speaker 3: the move of the eighties, different strokes backs of life.
Speaker 3: They was like, throw a kid in there, and like
Speaker 3: see how that goes family ties, Like all of those
Speaker 3: shows did that Bosby show, all of them growing gains exactly.
Speaker 1: But maybe it's a tried and true strategy that studios
Speaker 1: are aware of that work that temporarily really po the
Speaker 1: fans off, right, and but it's it's it brings them
Speaker 1: roaring back when you know the narrative changes for the positive.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's like pulling the So I
Speaker 1: think that's I think that's just maybe basic storytelling, you know,
Speaker 1: in serial television series television, you know, because.
Speaker 3: They have irritated by it. Yet I'm not personally. I
Speaker 3: don't know about you guys, but I'm not irritated by it.
Speaker 1: Not at all.
Speaker 4: No, I'm always kind of on the edge because I'm
Speaker 4: always waiting, like, okay, is this going to be the
Speaker 4: scene where he tells her. Is this going to be
Speaker 4: like every time they meet up? I'm like, okay, this
Speaker 4: is going to be where he says something and so
Speaker 4: I don't want to get too far ahead because we
Speaker 4: haven't seen those episodes yet, but this is like where
Speaker 4: my anxiety starts to go.
Speaker 3: Wow, were you happy I was that he told Liz.
Speaker 3: I was really happy. I did not want him to
Speaker 3: sort of stop and you knew he wanted to, and
Speaker 3: I was like, don't not tell her.
Speaker 4: I was glad that he told her, but I wanted
Speaker 4: her to push him to tell Laura I and not
Speaker 4: be like, oh, it's okay, you know if they don't
Speaker 4: want anything, lolarea, I doesn't need to know. Like I
Speaker 4: wanted Liz to be like, you need to tell Laura
Speaker 4: about this.
Speaker 3: She sort of did. I know we're going out of order,
Speaker 3: but I thought she did to the ability like that
Speaker 3: Liz has.
Speaker 4: True.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that scene was very touching me too,
Speaker 1: And I like that she knew very touching.
Speaker 3: I thought so too, And I like that she knew
Speaker 3: it was Anna that she calls out like she First
Speaker 3: of all, she wasn't upset. She wasn't she didn't. She
Speaker 3: just came from a great place of love and that
Speaker 3: she says, like you're a serial monogamous like and then
Speaker 3: she also was so like, Laurala's gonna understand because Luke
Speaker 3: didn't know. I think we really have to remind ourselves.
Speaker 3: Like he didn't know, and so he's imagine any of
Speaker 3: you finding out you have a kid, you would be
Speaker 3: so overwhelmed.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like, Luke's like a train on a track, Like he's
Speaker 4: not gonna just randomly steer in a different direction. He's
Speaker 4: going the way that he's going. And I think this
Speaker 4: completely just threw him off his axis and he's struggling
Speaker 4: to make it make sense. And I think that was
Speaker 4: part of the whole scene with Liz was he's like,
Speaker 4: I have to reach out to somebody to kind of
Speaker 4: get some grounding here and figure out like what is
Speaker 4: normal here and what is not normal here?
Speaker 3: So yeah, good point, Like he's trying to figure out
Speaker 3: am I feeling what a normal person would be feeling?
Speaker 5: But I did like Amy you called out that her
Speaker 5: reaction was so calm, like she didn't if she freaked out,
Speaker 5: Luke would have freaked out, And I think it came
Speaker 5: kept him a little level headed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's one of my favorite scenes. I agree
Speaker 1: with Kathleen. That scene really touched me.
Speaker 3: I thought so too, that these are definitely the ten
Speaker 3: parts of the episode. We haven't gotten to my two okay,
Speaker 3: so just to go back so we don't miss anything,
Speaker 3: I think we should acknowledge the jinxing and the unjinxing.
Speaker 1: Oh that was good.
Speaker 3: I like that cute. It's very child like. It reminded
Speaker 3: me of like in Big when he's like, should me
Speaker 3: shimmy cook?
Speaker 1: And it was Laura at her childish best. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was cute that Lane and Rory have
Speaker 3: something like that, and it was sort of it was fun,
Speaker 3: So I was all good there, and then I thought
Speaker 3: it was good to call out. So I think Rory says,
Speaker 3: as long as you're prying, and she talks about the break,
Speaker 3: they're just on a break hiatus Logan and Rory. So
Speaker 3: those are all important because we get to on later. Okay.
Speaker 3: So we go to the kitchen at the inn and
Speaker 3: I did notice. I'm like, why are those paper tels
Speaker 3: so prominent? Did anybody notice that?
Speaker 5: I did?
Speaker 3: And then I realized it was all part of that
Speaker 3: prat fall, right, So like I don't know. I can't
Speaker 3: remember what instigated the prat fall, but all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: the paper towels are flying and the dudes going back.
Speaker 3: So I was like, ah, now I get it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so they were all happy to see Rory, even Michelle Rory.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then he catches himself.
Speaker 3: He was hyperventilating, was over the top. But otherwise I
Speaker 3: was okay with them.
Speaker 1: You know, now that's she. That's her, her dynamic best,
Speaker 1: her comedic best. She's She's amazing. She really truly is.
Speaker 1: It was very, very funny.
Speaker 3: How about the fact that we're like write and sync.
Speaker 3: I mean, because I did watch this a few days ago,
Speaker 3: so it's like it's Thanksgiving and it's Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like when that when when it lines up
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: Tara put in our text, She's all, hey, guys, like
Speaker 3: this episode is so perfect. It's Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5: I was on the treadmill of watching it and I
Speaker 5: was like, wait a minute, this is perfect week.
Speaker 3: Okay, so now we get to what is my two?
Speaker 3: I don't know if you agree, Scott. All the hep
Speaker 3: Alien stuff for me was.
Speaker 1: Not end Sorry I disagree. Funniest Okay, I know some
Speaker 1: of it was annoying, but there was a lot of
Speaker 1: it I really liked, really for me, for me. Okay,
Speaker 1: so first of all, the line, the Sebastian Bach line
Speaker 1: almost made me fall off the couch. That was so gil.
Speaker 3: I love Sebastian Bach. Like all the scenes would have
Speaker 3: been zero's for me with I'm like, he at least
Speaker 3: makes this funny and seem real. It was. It was
Speaker 3: Zach being so unhinged and I.
Speaker 1: Get it, but at least, but at least they gave
Speaker 1: the band a good story, right, Yeah, and they gave
Speaker 1: him a lot, and there was momentum and it was like,
Speaker 1: oh God, I wonder if they're going to get the
Speaker 1: record deal and oh cool, you know, let's see how
Speaker 1: the performance goes. And yeah, Zach flipped out and that
Speaker 1: was weird. I think it was more cringey and weird
Speaker 1: than funny. Yeah fight because.
Speaker 3: Except for Joel, you know, the.
Speaker 1: The but it's like Zach is just so blatantly sabotaging
Speaker 1: that evening with Gwen Stefani headset.
Speaker 5: And then they'll.
Speaker 1: Bring a new guy into the band on the night
Speaker 1: of your biggest gig ever. It's just like a new
Speaker 1: energy there all of a sudden there he is. No,
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: Ever, can anybody figure out why?
Speaker 1: It's strange? Credulity? It was believable, right.
Speaker 3: So why is he writing all the songs about the girls' names.
Speaker 3: Lane's obviously upset about it. Then Brian writes the great
Speaker 3: song about Lane. It's all sort of just like.
Speaker 1: That wasn't a great song. It was a couple of
Speaker 1: dobe chords.
Speaker 5: It's really funny. The timing of this was so weird.
Speaker 5: I was scrolling on TikTok and there's this group Amy
Speaker 5: you may know, Jack and Jack, and they were like
Speaker 5: one of them's in a relationship and one of them's not,
Speaker 5: and the other one said that like he takes inspiration
Speaker 5: from the other one's relationship, and oh wow, girlfriend, And
Speaker 5: the timing of this episode, I was like, I guess
Speaker 5: in modern day it's not that weird, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's people do it. I'm sure all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think songs.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the in pro breutness of Zach
Speaker 1: writing love songs or sex songs about other women that
Speaker 1: he's dated when he's dating Lane. To artists do that,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I probably, I don't know. I mean, he
Speaker 1: does it, but it's like.
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift is definitely dating somebody and.
Speaker 5: Charles Kelsey but releasing songwriting.
Speaker 3: About John Mayer. Yeah right, Harry Styles right. Yeah.
Speaker 5: That's why I didn't think too much of it. I
Speaker 5: just was like this, I agree with you, Amy, Like
Speaker 5: for me, I didn't care for the storyline. It took
Speaker 5: the episode down a notch. But I think that's why.
Speaker 5: It was these little things where I'm like, well, the
Speaker 5: music industry is, like, I guess it is what it is,
Speaker 5: you know, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3: And like it's all. It just was like a lot
Speaker 3: of sort of like really and then Lane like, okay,
Speaker 3: so we'll just talk through the whole thing. So first
Speaker 3: of all, they go to the record store and Carol
Speaker 3: King's there again, and and that's where.
Speaker 1: We hear she's Carol King was Nail's.
Speaker 3: Great, and Zach's just getting more and more unhinged. There
Speaker 3: were parts of the gig, you know, the showcase that
Speaker 3: I thought was sort of amusing, but I was irritated.
Speaker 3: I was like, get playing, dude, he start playing, You're
Speaker 3: such a fool right now, and I almost wanted to say,
Speaker 3: d word, you're being such a jerk.
Speaker 1: But it was odd. It was an odd choice to
Speaker 1: make to complete, you know, turn Zach into that big
Speaker 1: of a flaming you know what. It was crazy. It
Speaker 1: was just crazy and crazy. Now he's jealous of Brain
Speaker 1: because he's working on a Lane song.
Speaker 3: It's happening there.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I thought it was a little bit of a
Speaker 4: stretch as well, Like you said, Scott, a kind of
Speaker 4: strained credulity because this one night he knew how important
Speaker 4: this was, like a label was there, this was their shot,
Speaker 4: and he got all unhinged about Brian and I just
Speaker 4: thought he wouldn't have done that. Really, this is what
Speaker 4: they had been working for the whole time.
Speaker 1: There's an old saying, if you can't stand the heat,
Speaker 1: get out of the kitchen. And the heat was turned
Speaker 1: up and Zach got out of the kitchen because he
Speaker 1: couldn't handle it. You know, he just melted down. Like
Speaker 1: I've never it was hard to believe that anybody would
Speaker 1: melt down that bad. Thats a situation unless they were
Speaker 1: like hooked on substances or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, he's not going to screw up this opportunity,
Speaker 3: no at all. And bringing first of all, the Gwen
Speaker 3: Stefani had.
Speaker 1: I mean it was hard enough to believe, you know,
Speaker 1: in that Tom Hanks starring movie that Tom You Do
Speaker 1: that Thing You Do, which is a great movie by
Speaker 1: the way, great movie, great songs, all that stuff, but
Speaker 1: that Jonathan's sketch character, is it Jonathan sheck? Sorry, that
Speaker 1: was even It was difficult to accept that ay that
Speaker 1: had that kind of national recognition was going to blow
Speaker 1: up the band. But there you go, there's like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's egos and then there's egos and right right right
Speaker 1: and talk about you know, a first class d bag
Speaker 1: to live Tyler, right, I mean, geez, So maybe that
Speaker 1: was the inspiration. I don't know, yeah, right.
Speaker 3: The brawl though, where they're all brawling, was not funny
Speaker 3: for me, Like I kind of was like, oh until
Speaker 3: I did giggle at Joel when the curtain's closing and
Speaker 3: it's like there's a Joel. So that was something that
Speaker 3: brought me back.
Speaker 5: And Rory with her camcorder, just like standing in the row,
Speaker 5: I was so distracted by the brawl.
Speaker 3: I didn't even see that.
Speaker 4: Oh the very beginning of the fight, like that when
Speaker 4: they were showing Rory and behind her the sound guy
Speaker 4: he like leans back and he like puts his feet
Speaker 4: up on the desk or something. Need like, the look
Speaker 4: on his face was hilarious. It's like, oh, yeah, they
Speaker 4: are another.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I feel like, okay, we've talked
Speaker 3: about that enough. And then like I although it did,
Speaker 3: I was. I did have a sort of a pang
Speaker 3: of pain for Lame crying and being like what happened?
Speaker 3: Like what are you doing? You ruined her?
Speaker 5: I did for her in that moment, like in the alleyway.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought Kiko did a really good job in
Speaker 4: that scene because she disbelief, like what did you just do?
Speaker 4: I thought she was I thought she did it.
Speaker 1: Really it was the only scene that was believable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agreed.
Speaker 3: All right, so we're kind of going out of order,
Speaker 3: but that's okay. I think we should talk about Christopher
Speaker 3: and just all the Christopher stuff because I was glad
Speaker 3: to get the payoff of the.
Speaker 1: Were you were you in as much pain as I was?
Speaker 3: No, Sae, because I still like Christopher.
Speaker 1: We're not going to agree on this. I needed a
Speaker 1: barf bag to watch those scenes.
Speaker 4: I really did.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if there was anything more obnoxious than
Speaker 1: Christopher unsuccessful, it's Christopher with money, you know, and bubbling
Speaker 1: with wealth.
Speaker 4: I think you're saying, I'm loaded. Should be a drinking
Speaker 4: game because he would all be on the floor.
Speaker 3: And how much money do we think he has? Well,
Speaker 3: that's what's all taking.
Speaker 5: It confused me because he comes from money, right, so
Speaker 5: it's not but I.
Speaker 3: Think they he's got like Gilmoury parents that don't give
Speaker 3: it to him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But like up until he was what seventeen, he
Speaker 5: did grow up in a very wealthy family. So the
Speaker 5: way he was acting was if again.
Speaker 1: He never he'd never get his hands on it, right.
Speaker 1: I think that's not the type of guy that's going
Speaker 1: to give his loser son any money.
Speaker 3: And he had total control. He has total control over it.
Speaker 3: Now my gut is he got what do we think
Speaker 3: ten million?
Speaker 1: Oh more than that?
Speaker 3: Do you think?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah, I think he got fifty million.
Speaker 3: Dollar, not one hundred million million because he said he
Speaker 3: never has to worry about money again. But I know
Speaker 3: he's not like a billionaire. I'm going he.
Speaker 1: Ye, I'm going money fifty to seventy five.
Speaker 5: He said he put everything away for his daughter already
Speaker 5: that has like way more money to spend on Laura
Speaker 5: l Rory.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm going twenty million.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got a few money, did because.
Speaker 3: You figure the grandpa had one hundred million and the
Speaker 3: parents don't need any of it. What did we decide
Speaker 3: the Gilmour's were worth one hundred million, no, fifty million,
Speaker 3: But the Huntsburgers are worth like a quarter of a
Speaker 3: billion or something?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably, Yeah, a lot of dough, A lot of dough,
Speaker 1: not of doray mean.
Speaker 5: Actually I actually just looked it up. There's I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't know how accurate this is, but apparently the
Speaker 5: Gilmours are worth upwards of fifty million.
Speaker 3: Okay, And what about the Huntsburgers. I think the Huntsburgers
Speaker 3: are like quarter of a billion. They're definitely more than
Speaker 3: the Gilmoars.
Speaker 1: Well they're yeah, I think they're I think they're half
Speaker 1: a million.
Speaker 3: Two hundred How Google? How much money did Christopher get
Speaker 3: from his grandpa? I don't know, see what it does?
Speaker 1: Everybody? Wait, well, if he was that happy, then it
Speaker 1: was a lot.
Speaker 5: Right, It's a lot around fifty million.
Speaker 3: Fifty millions. So Scott, you nailed.
Speaker 1: It, kind of kind of nailing.
Speaker 3: I still was amused by the Okay, so with the
Speaker 3: Christopher lorelaies scene like I always like them together, and
Speaker 3: I still thought he was sort of funny with the life.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. No, it's not just Luke saying this,
Speaker 1: it's me the critic saying and I don't like them.
Speaker 3: Together by people don't, I do not.
Speaker 1: It's cringe for me. It is.
Speaker 3: It's just like I prefer you, but I'm not. I
Speaker 3: have something about it. I still like their chemistry. But
Speaker 3: I mean he's like, who did you want to castle?
Speaker 3: You know, like all that jazz and then him noticing
Speaker 3: the ring. So that's in the second with him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but it was like, okay, all right, he wants her
Speaker 3: to be happy. Oh, Scott, you're just hate what's coming?
Speaker 1: I know what That line, I just want you happy
Speaker 1: is just talk. It's all talk, true Aulterio motives. I
Speaker 1: know it, I feel it. I don't know what. I
Speaker 1: don't know what episodes, it's just yeah, he's just really
Speaker 1: Oh you're about to just.
Speaker 5: Not Yeah, I'm not going to bore everyone this with this,
Speaker 5: but I'll just put in our group chat. But there's
Speaker 5: a whole article on everyone in the shows like their
Speaker 5: characters rank by wealth.
Speaker 3: Oh please us give us that I want to know,
Speaker 3: give it, give it quit?
Speaker 5: So, Laura, I assuming that the dragonfly made somewhere around
Speaker 5: fifty thousand dollars as a manager at the independence end,
Speaker 5: and the salary would have increased from there, Suki between
Speaker 5: forty five to eighty a year as a chef. Okay,
Speaker 5: Kirk with his fifteen it says, with his fifteen thousand jobs,
Speaker 5: is probably worth about two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because remember he had all the money for the
Speaker 3: down payment on the twig for Luke.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's he he with his savings, he's has about
Speaker 5: five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: I think he has more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep them.
Speaker 5: And then with with Christopher, it says, assumed fifty million
Speaker 5: with that inheritance. Wow, the Gilmore.
Speaker 1: Is a logan.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: What about the Huntburg Oh I'm getting there.
Speaker 5: So okay, so uh go faster the Sorry it's a
Speaker 5: long article.
Speaker 1: I'm excusing we're not going to read the whole article.
Speaker 5: Hunsburgers are I mean about two hundred million dollars a year,
Speaker 5: that's what they're bringing in.
Speaker 1: The Huntsburgers bringing two hundred million a year, and they're
Speaker 1: worth a heck of a lot more than.
Speaker 3: There were like a billion. Yeah, so they're billionaires.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, yes, yeah, well.
Speaker 4: You're on fire.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're on fire.
Speaker 5: Best It's like it's a long article of skiing.
Speaker 3: Was getting a little dull, all right, okay, okay, back
Speaker 3: to first of all, total random Buddy Hackett shout out,
Speaker 3: like no one cared what Hacket done.
Speaker 1: But it was sad because he was such a beloved
Speaker 1: guy and he'll always be alive.
Speaker 3: And then there that was a funny scene where Rory
Speaker 3: really talks about why she doesn't want to take the grandparents'
Speaker 3: money and lauralize like am I in a Freaky Friday?
Speaker 3: Like that was a funny scene. Good, good, just banter there.
Speaker 3: Forty thousand dollars sex?
Speaker 1: What's just what does that mean? What doesn't even.
Speaker 3: Remember they built the whole house and then they found
Speaker 3: out it was her sex house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like thousand dollars sex house born? Forty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars are you talking about?
Speaker 3: So we kind of talked about the Liz and Luke scene.
Speaker 3: So now we're really at Thanksgiving and we you know,
Speaker 3: she comes clean. Now interestingly, she comes clean to Luke
Speaker 3: about Christopher after the fact.
Speaker 5: That's so that was my flag.
Speaker 3: So I stand by that Luke hit. There should be
Speaker 3: no issue with him getting everything sort of figured out
Speaker 3: and situated and then telling her because that's what she does.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't blame it. I'm like she should have
Speaker 5: told her. She should have told Luke like, hey, I
Speaker 5: am going to meet up with Christopher. This is what happened.
Speaker 5: I want to let you know before it happens. Not
Speaker 5: I got all settled. We met twice, you know, like
Speaker 5: not even once. Twice She met with Christopher by herself
Speaker 5: and then with Rory. It had to be over the
Speaker 5: course of what like a couple of days.
Speaker 1: Maybe think she should have consulted with Luke before she
Speaker 1: even met with him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think if anything, just be like, hey, he
Speaker 5: wants to talk. I don't know what's going on, but
Speaker 5: I want you to know. Maybe not even I don't
Speaker 5: think Luke needs to go, but at least to know
Speaker 5: that they're meeting up and then be like it wasn't
Speaker 5: about me, it was about Rory and him taking care
Speaker 5: of Rory and that way he knows the process of
Speaker 5: it happening, Like to just dump it all on him
Speaker 5: and like Luke couldn't be mad because of.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, that's a big discussion and her
Speaker 1: just standing there at an inopportune moment during a Thanksgiving celebration,
Speaker 1: pulling him off to the side and explaining what happened
Speaker 1: and then that's it and that's not even going to
Speaker 1: be a discussion. Yeah, and putting Luke in that situation,
Speaker 1: I think is disrespectful.
Speaker 5: No, I agree.
Speaker 1: I think, Oh, that's a big deal. Somebody drops in
Speaker 1: all that money all of a sudden that's so connected
Speaker 1: to her emotionally, and you know by actual DNA that
Speaker 1: that's a big conversation between a committed up that's living
Speaker 1: together and engaged, because that kind of money can destroy
Speaker 1: your relationship or any kind of intervention doesn't even have
Speaker 1: to be a lot of money if it What if
Speaker 1: it's like the ex husband comes back, you know, the
Speaker 1: flaky es loser ex husband comes back and he wants
Speaker 1: to you know, you know, contribute to this or contribute
Speaker 1: to that, and not even in a big way. Right,
Speaker 1: it's still like, why is this guy in our lives?
Speaker 1: What is going on all of a sudden? Now you
Speaker 1: know he's using money to wedge his way in somehow
Speaker 1: can't you see? I mean, where are those scenes? Right? So, well,
Speaker 1: do you think I actually do have a big problem
Speaker 1: with it? I think I think, I think?
Speaker 3: So what if you think about your response? I think
Speaker 3: that's absolutely great. He's her dad, glad he's doing it
Speaker 3: because he's guilty of.
Speaker 1: Doing it himself. And I think the fans are smarter
Speaker 1: than this, and they're like, why are these two characters
Speaker 1: being destroyed before our eyes? Why are they behaving this way?
Speaker 1: They're supposed to love each other and respect each other
Speaker 1: and trust each other, and now that is all go
Speaker 1: going to go away because in the real world, nobody
Speaker 1: acts this way, right, nobody's going and if they do,
Speaker 1: there are dire consequences. This is the kind of stuff
Speaker 1: that ends relationships. And the fans know this.
Speaker 5: So do you think that Christopher should have gone straight
Speaker 5: to Rory instead of going to Lauraise? She's an adult.
Speaker 3: That feels weird to me, though, I think Christopher.
Speaker 1: Lurl I would have been justified to be pissed off, right,
Speaker 1: Why are you going to Rory with all this money?
Speaker 1: You come to me first, pal? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with so that I can discuss it with Luke.
Speaker 1: But you know Luke is Luke has given half a
Speaker 1: hug and no conversation. It's not being considered.
Speaker 3: I think that it's Christopher. Look, it's a little weird
Speaker 3: that Christopher's off offering Loreli money, do you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Maybe a little bit. It's not weird that
Speaker 3: he's offering his daughter money like that technically sort of
Speaker 3: is her money, right, so like he should pay for school,
Speaker 3: he should buy her a car, he should by her
Speaker 3: her first house or her first apartment whatever.
Speaker 4: When he first approaches it with Laura, I he's the
Speaker 4: way he said it, and I think I wrote it down.
Speaker 4: He said, oh yeah, okay, So he says he talks
Speaker 4: about everything he did for Gigi, and then he says,
Speaker 4: and now I want to take care of you, and
Speaker 4: then he adds you and Rory.
Speaker 3: That was weird, like he he didn't.
Speaker 4: Come out saying I want to take care of Rory.
Speaker 4: He said I want to take care of you, meaning Laurai,
Speaker 4: and then Rory was kind of like an afterthought, which
Speaker 4: is typically Christopher.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Oh, I was gonna say, I think the thing with
Speaker 4: with Laura I telling Luke. I think plot wise, she
Speaker 4: couldn't tell him right away because it wasn't going to work.
Speaker 4: If she told him before he knew about April, he
Speaker 4: had the reaction that he had because he was thinking
Speaker 4: about April and how he should be a dad to.
Speaker 3: So if she had told him too soon, he.
Speaker 4: Would have like freaked out and blown up like he
Speaker 4: did the first time Christopher's name came up.
Speaker 1: So I think there was any insane, healthy individual. Wo wash,
Speaker 1: somebody's trying to drop in all this money and invade
Speaker 1: your relationship, you.
Speaker 4: Know, Yeah, So I think there was a timing issue there.
Speaker 1: Listen, the classy move, okay, would have been, if you
Speaker 1: want to take care of your daughter, you want to
Speaker 1: take care of your uh beloved Laureli, you do it anonymously.
Speaker 1: You do it, you do it in some clever way
Speaker 1: where all of a sudden, and you don't sit there
Speaker 1: and take all this gloating credit for it right in
Speaker 1: their faces and aren't I a great guy? And now
Speaker 1: I'm going to screw up your lives? And I know
Speaker 1: I'm going to screw up your lives. Because if he
Speaker 1: doesn't understand how much of a nuclear bombness is on
Speaker 1: Luke and Laureli's relationship or on either of their lives.
Speaker 1: Then he's an idiot and he's got no feelings and
Speaker 1: he's got no empathy. Right, I stand you. It's a
Speaker 1: really manipulative move. It's super manipulative. And I agree with
Speaker 1: you on what a creep, what a low life like
Speaker 1: coming swooping in to their lives. And I'm rich Hey,
Speaker 1: I want to take care of everybody. Really, you a whole,
Speaker 1: she's got a really.
Speaker 3: Agree he should take care of his daughter finding.
Speaker 1: Anonymously, anonymously, anonymously. No, no, I don't care. He hasn't
Speaker 1: been her dad, and he should do it anonymously. She
Speaker 1: should just call Yale pay the damn bills. I don't
Speaker 1: want anybody knowing that I did this. You can contact
Speaker 1: Emily and Richard so that they don't have to do
Speaker 1: it anymore, But I don't want anybody know knowing that
Speaker 1: I did this. And then he sends a message or
Speaker 1: an anonymous message to Emily and uh Richard and says
Speaker 1: that you know you're you're under no more obligation to
Speaker 1: pay for that tuition. It's taken care of. Signed it on.
Speaker 3: A gesture. But look, I do think it's weird to
Speaker 3: call up your former like baby or your baby mama,
Speaker 3: your former girlfriend who's engaged and offer money.
Speaker 5: Yeah it's weird. Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 3: Kind of inappropriate, right, I get it. I get where
Speaker 3: he's I do think he has the best of intentions.
Speaker 3: Or maybe he could have offered to pay her back
Speaker 3: for some of all the money she spent to raise Rory.
Speaker 3: What There may be a move there, But for me,
Speaker 3: it's totally fine that he's calling Rory and saying, I
Speaker 3: now have money, and I want to pay for school,
Speaker 3: your car, I want here. There's money in a bank
Speaker 3: account for your future, your retirement, your down payment on
Speaker 3: your first house, whatever it may be. As a father,
Speaker 3: I do think that is sort of him. That is
Speaker 3: an obligation, if that's the right word, And if he's
Speaker 3: doing something for Gigi, he should do the exact same
Speaker 3: thing for Rory. In my opinis, Okay, they're both his kids.
Speaker 1: But doesn't he have an obligation to to not met.
Speaker 3: Current money's meddling. I think he's doing something for Gigi,
Speaker 3: he should say I've put aside five million dollars for Gigi.
Speaker 3: You have the same you are my kid. There should
Speaker 3: be nothing that Gigi gets that Rory does not get.
Speaker 5: And Also, he didn't support them while Rory was growing up,
Speaker 5: so this is kind of making up for it, like
Speaker 5: let him pay for Yale.
Speaker 4: And he also doesn't know that she's in a relationship,
Speaker 4: but he doesn't know necessarily that she's back with Luke.
Speaker 3: Right, But I still think it's weird that he's like
Speaker 3: offering Loreli the money. It's just all about Rory.
Speaker 1: That is our kid, Yes, trying to buy his way
Speaker 1: back into her heart.
Speaker 3: You're right, You're probably right, is probably right.
Speaker 1: You're probably detached from reality that guy is.
Speaker 3: You're probably right on that. Yeah, So okay, two more
Speaker 3: scenes we have to talk about Harris and Rory. That's
Speaker 3: a funny, sort of just a little amusing scene that
Speaker 3: teas up something coming, so it's kind of important. But
Speaker 3: I liked that Honor Huntsberger called I know, although it
Speaker 3: was gut wrenching to Rory to realize that Logan said
Speaker 3: they broke up. When Honor refers to Logan as young Seacrest.
Speaker 5: I thought of you, Amy, I thought I.
Speaker 4: Texted you, And I'm like, I don't know if she's
Speaker 4: watched again, I'm going I must have forgotten about it
Speaker 4: from when it happened because we must have like called
Speaker 4: it out.
Speaker 5: When is this like peak American idol?
Speaker 3: Yes, because this is two thousand and four, right six
Speaker 3: and this is two thousand and six, So yeah, I
Speaker 3: had a launch like in two thousand and one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like the hair like I kind of.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh yeah, and.
Speaker 3: Matt Zukrie is a little bit seacresty. I was like
Speaker 3: that was rad. And then uh, you know, we see
Speaker 3: Luke go into the like what's this? What are the
Speaker 3: things called where you put food? Why is the name
Speaker 3: out of my head?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 5: What you know?
Speaker 3: The room where pantry in the kitchen?
Speaker 1: That's the kitchen back there.
Speaker 3: He tried calling He tried calling Anna, which, by the way,
Speaker 3: how about the shout out to for one one for
Speaker 3: us one to be connected? And we all used to
Speaker 3: do it, and I think it was expensive and we
Speaker 3: were all dumb dumbed because I think we got charge
Speaker 3: of quarter every time we freaking did that. And suddenly
Speaker 3: on your phone bill you're like twenty to for one one.
Speaker 3: Remember you'd call four one one and go Domino's Pizza?
Speaker 3: Can you connect me?
Speaker 5: Like, because he couldn't use the internet to look up
Speaker 5: the phone number, I was going to make a point
Speaker 5: about Luke without his uniform on before I was bombarded
Speaker 5: with inappropriate comments, he does seem like.
Speaker 1: And given the situation, but he does seem like a
Speaker 1: very I mean that hat and the flannel and the
Speaker 1: diner and his attitude all seemed to work together, and
Speaker 1: it all kinds of work. It all kind of works, right,
Speaker 1: you accept it. But without the hat, without the flannel,
Speaker 1: and he's sitting there and he still looks like Luke,
Speaker 1: but he's got that stank look on his face, right,
Speaker 1: he's yeah.
Speaker 3: Like so do you kind of think of the flannel
Speaker 3: and the hat as like his coat of armor or
Speaker 3: his cape or whatever.
Speaker 1: He takes it off and he disappears like he's just
Speaker 1: a yeah, he's just like geez man. I mean, he
Speaker 1: couldn't even smile once when he was sitting at that thing.
Speaker 3: I think he's so stressed about April.
Speaker 1: No, obviously, but still, I mean covered a little anyway.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I got I'm throwing a flag on
Speaker 1: myself maybe for.
Speaker 4: Okay, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: What yeah, I mean it's complicated, Like I don't know
Speaker 3: how I would be.
Speaker 1: It's like when fans come to a comic con every
Speaker 1: once in a while and I'm not wearing a hat
Speaker 1: or anything because I don't wear the hat. Usually they
Speaker 1: get disappointed, and I think I was a little disappointed
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving tale scene that he.
Speaker 3: Was bro, there's your flannel. So what is our favorite lines?
Speaker 1: Oh? That's easy.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you like oh, there's no.
Speaker 1: The gill line. Yeah, anyway, Susanne, what's your favorite line?
Speaker 4: My favorite line, surprisingly is from Christopher, given how much
Speaker 4: I don't like Christopher, but I laughed when he said
Speaker 4: when he was telling Laura they were at the restaurant
Speaker 4: talking about all the things that he could do with
Speaker 4: his money, and he says, you can crush people with money.
Speaker 4: You want some people crushing money?
Speaker 3: That was cute, bobs that stickers. I was like, what,
Speaker 3: I still like young young seacrests.
Speaker 5: I love the scene with Pair and she's like, I'm
Speaker 5: coming and Paris Is like what's that sound like? Just
Speaker 5: like so just like cold, and I just love Paris
Speaker 5: so much so and she's like.
Speaker 3: Call back to such a callback.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and she's like, well, of course you're coming back,
Speaker 5: and what else would you do? Like, I don't know,
Speaker 5: I just love Paris.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. That was good. Paris. That's how I
Speaker 3: want Paris.
Speaker 4: To be always.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it wasn't funny.
Speaker 3: Came back to like her bad drum roll?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Amy, what's your favorite line?
Speaker 3: Gosh, I stink I'm still with young Seacrest.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like.
Speaker 3: You know, I have to say, though, my favorite was
Speaker 3: Liz and Luke. I think that scene. Oh and then
Speaker 3: you know, if I had to pick a banter, it's
Speaker 3: when Rory and Lorelei are discussing how she wants to
Speaker 3: be out from her grandmother's thumb and the Freaky Friday,
Speaker 3: and that every line was really entertaining to me in
Speaker 3: that sort of ping pongy.
Speaker 1: All right, say what are you giving it? What's your
Speaker 1: measuring stick?
Speaker 4: I thought this was a good episode. I'm going to
Speaker 4: give this nine sugar toes.
Speaker 5: Oh got one? Uh, it wasn't my favorite, so I'm
Speaker 5: gonna give it eight.
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 5: What else was in this episode of like blanking eight
Speaker 5: turkeys for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1: Amy?
Speaker 3: Nine? Yakov's total shout out to ya? What's his name?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it. I don't know. Is it in
Speaker 1: the Nines?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was. It was very It was actually very enjoyable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you anything that gives me that many laughs,
Speaker 1: I mean like good belly laughs. You know you gotta
Speaker 1: go nine seat. I want to go nine to nine
Speaker 1: five nine three uh, and I'm gonna go uh nine
Speaker 1: point three suky backhand fists to the poor assistant.
Speaker 3: And paper towels flying good one.
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