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Speaker 2: I am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in. Poecast?

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Speaker 3: Did you say pocast?

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Speaker 1: I said pocast. I'm so tired right now. Is that

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Speaker 1: a Freudian Thanksgiving? Freudian slip? A podcast? A pumpkin? Poecast?

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Speaker 1: One eleven Productions. I heart Radio, iHeartMedia, iHeart podcast, iHeart

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Speaker 1: pies LLLC Did you?

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Speaker 4: Did you?

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to interrupt you, but did you even celebrate Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 3: Because you're in Canada?

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Speaker 1: I think they celebrated it while I was at work

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Speaker 1: and I didn't notice. I think they do a different

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Speaker 1: day up here.

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Speaker 3: But so yeah, did you literally work on Thanksgiving up here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Sean Oh, I think so.

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Speaker 3: It just didn't exist. Did you call home at least

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Speaker 3: and say I call.

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Speaker 1: Home like five times a day and then twice at night?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean? Did I call home? That's all

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Speaker 1: you all I do? Season six, Episode ten, He's slipping

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Speaker 1: the bread, you dig.

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Speaker 3: I didn't get the title.

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Speaker 5: I didn't either.

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Speaker 1: I like it's the tambourine guy vibe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't get it.

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Speaker 4: Slipping the bread like giving them money, like referring to.

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Speaker 1: Christ bread Dig. He's slipping a bread you dig?

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Speaker 3: Joel the tambourine guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Joel guy. Let's synopsize before we get into all

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Speaker 1: of our many varied narratives here. Whose synopsisization is Queen's

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Speaker 1: is all? I am joined by my interrapid crew Susanne French,

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Speaker 1: Tara sud Amy Sugarman who if she's late, she's on time.

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Speaker 1: If she's on time, she's way early my motel.

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Speaker 3: Scott, you are looking like a botty babe in this episode.

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Speaker 3: Sorry to be creepy. Okay, so I won't even out

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Speaker 3: the person. But we we have a new producer that's

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Speaker 3: not on this show but working with us. And I

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Speaker 3: was with her and her mom the other day and

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Speaker 3: she's like, I don't believe you work with Scott Patterson.

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Speaker 3: You only if you work with Scott Patterson. He is

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Speaker 3: a hunk. And I go, I know, it's so awkward.

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Speaker 3: I have to like tell him.

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Speaker 1: All right, we can. We can synopsize now, thanks, all right,

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Speaker 1: this is let's everybody just keep their flannel on. Please

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Speaker 1: just take it easy.

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Speaker 4: This is season six, episode ten, He's slipping and Red

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Speaker 4: You Dig. This aired on November twenty second two two

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Speaker 4: thousand and five, And just a note for those that

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Speaker 4: are following the timing is this was the last episode

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Speaker 4: before the holiday break and the next episode did not

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Speaker 4: air until January tenth.

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Speaker 6: Oh good call out, Susan. So everyone excited that Rory

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Speaker 6: is back. Lorelai tells Rory that Christopher called, but the

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Speaker 6: news he drops gives Laurela I mixed feelings. Hep Alien

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Speaker 6: is set to play a big gig, but Zach's ambitions

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Speaker 6: for the band ruin everything, and Luke confides in Liz

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Speaker 6: about his new daughter, April.

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Speaker 4: But has yet to tell Laura. I.

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Speaker 1: Hmm, half, so we discussed this queen thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to you know, listen, Suzanne's doing really well,

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Speaker 1: but she is the new kid on the block. Terra's

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Speaker 1: been around. Shouldn't Tara be the queen?

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Speaker 5: There was one common sort.

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Speaker 1: Suzanne could be queen consort.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's it when you're waiting to be queen.

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Speaker 4: Waiting?

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Speaker 5: Actually it's more like prince. Wouldn't it be princess? Like

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Speaker 3: I will say I need to hit up Danielle. Even

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Speaker 3: though she's on maternity because I did see in the

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Speaker 3: comments an epic idea, because they're like, we need to

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Speaker 3: know what Danielle is experiencing because she's the one who's

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Speaker 5: I feel like I cheated because I was texting her

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Speaker 5: and asking about the baby the other day and she's

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Speaker 1: We'll call them daniellisodes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but she's following like she's on the same track

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Speaker 5: we are.

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Speaker 3: That's great. Better she better be taken notes because everyone's

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Speaker 3: going to want to know what she I thought for

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Speaker 3: the first.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to say what she told me, so

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Speaker 1: Oh, you know, I think I think Suzanne and Tara

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Speaker 3: I know I'm not on it, neither of you.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, You and I are king. You and

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Speaker 1: I are not. We are are we dukes duchess where

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Speaker 1: we're peasants? Damn it, damn I was hoping for higher

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Speaker 3: Can I just throw out there that half of this

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Speaker 3: episode is a ten to me and half is like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I totally. I hope we agree on the parts that

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Speaker 1: Hope we do. I hope we don't, because then we

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Speaker 1: can have friction, which creates heat, get a fire.

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Speaker 3: I already love this episode. Today we are a ten

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Speaker 3: out of ten. You know what was funny so to

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Speaker 3: start the show on our show, but that the show

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Speaker 3: Gil Those pink boots were pretty iconic, like they immediately

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, I remember those boots.

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Speaker 3: Just putting the pink boots on. First of all, her

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Speaker 1: It's good, really good.

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Speaker 3: You did a good job. I did.

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Speaker 1: I slept in that bed wait for real. Well during

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Speaker 1: the like a Map or like Netflix episodes, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I did notice that the bathroom tile is the same

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Speaker 3: Prop department might have had leftover tile because it's very

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Speaker 1: Humm, interesting double construction notes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure they just had some tile and a

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Speaker 1: The should do like a it's like a tool time

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming the sinks didn't work.

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Speaker 3: Also Laura, Well, Lauren does a lot of fake hair

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Speaker 1: Of like hair acting. There's hair acting. Can she hair

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Speaker 3: Somebody did I acting the other day too.

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Speaker 1: They were eyeballs, Yeah, I acting right there you go.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not sure why she hasn't met paul Anka.

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Speaker 1: And that opening did that opening.

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Speaker 4: Drag you did?

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Speaker 3: It was really long.

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Speaker 1: It was off right. It's sort of like their timing

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Speaker 3: Said to myself, Oh, sorry, targe ahead.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say that. You mean the whole sugar

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't, you know. The virgo in me did

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Speaker 1: not like the spillage.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god. I was like, why.

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Speaker 4: Was she holding it like three feet in the air,

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Speaker 1: Poured half the ball on our toes Like.

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Speaker 3: The same thing where I was like, oh, this is

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Speaker 5: So sticky, and then walking through the the dog might

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Speaker 5: like you, but the mice you're gonna get are going

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Speaker 1: Right, It's like the answer now, like you know, calling

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Speaker 5: Also, I don't think you're suposed to give dogs sugar, So.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's processed sugar for the dog? You know, paul

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Speaker 1: Anka turns into r I p doggie. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I did like her sneakers, but the whole thing on

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Speaker 4: They kind of fit though, because they're just getting back

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought she was playing playing a gag

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Speaker 1: The dog was actually licking her child.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, but she was like, yeah, you know, she

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is that yellow kitchen table new or is that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just got an eclectic mix of sort of weird

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Speaker 3: nice I don't know. Yeah, very Yeah, but that was long.

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Speaker 4: It was really long.

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Speaker 1: That opening scene was very long.

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Speaker 3: Bop it. Although I love the I love the off

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Speaker 3: camera sound effects that you know, like especially Scott when

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that Lenny Kravitz call out because I

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Speaker 1: But the thing is is he like tours all the time,

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Speaker 3: Totally, and he's crazy crazy big venues, big venues. Yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 3: but he's been around for a while.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Also I don't think he you know, his mom was

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know he's a Hollywood kid. Doesn't

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Speaker 3: We just saw Lenny Kravitz, I was, I said, really,

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Speaker 3: we just saw him.

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Speaker 1: You saw him.

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Speaker 3: I know, I feel bad because you couldn't go because

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Speaker 3: you were working. But he was at the iHeartRadio Music Festival.

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Speaker 3: That's and one of our one of our producers. He

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Speaker 3: Eileen and someone else and the face is like I

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Speaker 3: I was like, don't not tell her.

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00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 4: I was glad that he told her, but I wanted

443
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 4: her to push him to tell Laura I and not

444
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 4: be like, oh, it's okay, you know if they don't

445
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 4: want anything, lolarea, I doesn't need to know. Like I

446
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 4: wanted Liz to be like, you need to tell Laura

447
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 4: about this.

448
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 3: She sort of did. I know we're going out of order,

449
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: but I thought she did to the ability like that

450
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 3: Liz has.

451
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 4: True.

452
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that scene was very touching me too,

453
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: And I like that she knew very touching.

454
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 3: I thought so too, And I like that she knew

455
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 3: it was Anna that she calls out like she First

456
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 3: of all, she wasn't upset. She wasn't she didn't. She

457
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 3: just came from a great place of love and that

458
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 3: she says, like you're a serial monogamous like and then

459
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 3: she also was so like, Laurala's gonna understand because Luke

460
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 3: didn't know. I think we really have to remind ourselves.

461
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: Like he didn't know, and so he's imagine any of

462
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: you finding out you have a kid, you would be

463
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 3: so overwhelmed.

464
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

465
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 4: Like, Luke's like a train on a track, Like he's

466
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 4: not gonna just randomly steer in a different direction. He's

467
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 4: going the way that he's going. And I think this

468
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 4: completely just threw him off his axis and he's struggling

469
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 4: to make it make sense. And I think that was

470
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 4: part of the whole scene with Liz was he's like,

471
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 4: I have to reach out to somebody to kind of

472
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 4: get some grounding here and figure out like what is

473
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 4: normal here and what is not normal here?

474
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, good point, Like he's trying to figure out

475
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: am I feeling what a normal person would be feeling?

476
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 5: But I did like Amy you called out that her

477
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 5: reaction was so calm, like she didn't if she freaked out,

478
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 5: Luke would have freaked out, And I think it came

479
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 5: kept him a little level headed.

480
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's one of my favorite scenes. I agree

481
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: with Kathleen. That scene really touched me.

482
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: I thought so too, that these are definitely the ten

483
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: parts of the episode. We haven't gotten to my two okay,

484
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: so just to go back so we don't miss anything,

485
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: I think we should acknowledge the jinxing and the unjinxing.

486
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: Oh that was good.

487
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: I like that cute. It's very child like. It reminded

488
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 3: me of like in Big when he's like, should me

489
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 3: shimmy cook?

490
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: And it was Laura at her childish best. Yeah.

491
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was cute that Lane and Rory have

492
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: something like that, and it was sort of it was fun,

493
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: So I was all good there, and then I thought

494
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: it was good to call out. So I think Rory says,

495
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: as long as you're prying, and she talks about the break,

496
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: they're just on a break hiatus Logan and Rory. So

497
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 3: those are all important because we get to on later. Okay.

498
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 3: So we go to the kitchen at the inn and

499
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 3: I did notice. I'm like, why are those paper tels

500
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 3: so prominent? Did anybody notice that?

501
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 5: I did?

502
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 3: And then I realized it was all part of that

503
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 3: prat fall, right, So like I don't know. I can't

504
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: remember what instigated the prat fall, but all of a sudden,

505
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 3: the paper towels are flying and the dudes going back.

506
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 3: So I was like, ah, now I get it. Yeah,

507
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: so they were all happy to see Rory, even Michelle Rory.

508
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then he catches himself.

509
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: He was hyperventilating, was over the top. But otherwise I

510
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: was okay with them.

511
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: You know, now that's she. That's her, her dynamic best,

512
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: her comedic best. She's She's amazing. She really truly is.

513
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: It was very, very funny.

514
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: How about the fact that we're like write and sync.

515
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: I mean, because I did watch this a few days ago,

516
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: so it's like it's Thanksgiving and it's Thanksgiving.

517
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like when that when when it lines up

518
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 4: like that.

519
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: Tara put in our text, She's all, hey, guys, like

520
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: this episode is so perfect. It's Thanksgiving.

521
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 5: I was on the treadmill of watching it and I

522
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 5: was like, wait a minute, this is perfect week.

523
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: Okay, so now we get to what is my two?

524
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if you agree, Scott. All the hep

525
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 3: Alien stuff for me was.

526
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: Not end Sorry I disagree. Funniest Okay, I know some

527
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: of it was annoying, but there was a lot of

528
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: it I really liked, really for me, for me. Okay,

529
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: so first of all, the line, the Sebastian Bach line

530
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: almost made me fall off the couch. That was so gil.

531
00:28:54,800 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: I love Sebastian Bach. Like all the scenes would have

532
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: been zero's for me with I'm like, he at least

533
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: makes this funny and seem real. It was. It was

534
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: Zach being so unhinged and I.

535
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: Get it, but at least, but at least they gave

536
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: the band a good story, right, Yeah, and they gave

537
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: him a lot, and there was momentum and it was like,

538
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: oh God, I wonder if they're going to get the

539
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: record deal and oh cool, you know, let's see how

540
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: the performance goes. And yeah, Zach flipped out and that

541
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: was weird. I think it was more cringey and weird

542
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: than funny. Yeah fight because.

543
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: Except for Joel, you know, the.

544
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: The but it's like Zach is just so blatantly sabotaging

545
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: that evening with Gwen Stefani headset.

546
00:29:55,120 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 5: And then they'll.

547
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: Bring a new guy into the band on the night

548
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: of your biggest gig ever. It's just like a new

549
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: energy there all of a sudden there he is. No,

550
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen.

551
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 3: Ever, can anybody figure out why?

552
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: It's strange? Credulity? It was believable, right.

553
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 3: So why is he writing all the songs about the girls' names.

554
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: Lane's obviously upset about it. Then Brian writes the great

555
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: song about Lane. It's all sort of just like.

556
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: That wasn't a great song. It was a couple of

557
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: dobe chords.

558
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 5: It's really funny. The timing of this was so weird.

559
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 5: I was scrolling on TikTok and there's this group Amy

560
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 5: you may know, Jack and Jack, and they were like

561
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 5: one of them's in a relationship and one of them's not,

562
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 5: and the other one said that like he takes inspiration

563
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 5: from the other one's relationship, and oh wow, girlfriend, And

564
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 5: the timing of this episode, I was like, I guess

565
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 5: in modern day it's not that weird, Like.

566
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's people do it. I'm sure all the time. Yeah,

567
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: I think songs.

568
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the in pro breutness of Zach

569
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: writing love songs or sex songs about other women that

570
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: he's dated when he's dating Lane. To artists do that,

571
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I probably, I don't know. I mean, he

572
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: does it, but it's like.

573
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift is definitely dating somebody and.

574
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 5: Charles Kelsey but releasing songwriting.

575
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: About John Mayer. Yeah right, Harry Styles right. Yeah.

576
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 5: That's why I didn't think too much of it. I

577
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 5: just was like this, I agree with you, Amy, Like

578
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 5: for me, I didn't care for the storyline. It took

579
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 5: the episode down a notch. But I think that's why.

580
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 5: It was these little things where I'm like, well, the

581
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 5: music industry is, like, I guess it is what it is,

582
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 5: you know, you know, yeah.

583
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: And like it's all. It just was like a lot

584
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 3: of sort of like really and then Lane like, okay,

585
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: so we'll just talk through the whole thing. So first

586
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 3: of all, they go to the record store and Carol

587
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: King's there again, and and that's where.

588
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: We hear she's Carol King was Nail's.

589
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: Great, and Zach's just getting more and more unhinged. There

590
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: were parts of the gig, you know, the showcase that

591
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: I thought was sort of amusing, but I was irritated.

592
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: I was like, get playing, dude, he start playing, You're

593
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: such a fool right now, and I almost wanted to say,

594
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: d word, you're being such a jerk.

595
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: But it was odd. It was an odd choice to

596
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: make to complete, you know, turn Zach into that big

597
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: of a flaming you know what. It was crazy. It

598
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: was just crazy and crazy. Now he's jealous of Brain

599
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: because he's working on a Lane song.

600
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: It's happening there.

601
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. I thought it was a little bit of a

602
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 4: stretch as well, Like you said, Scott, a kind of

603
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: strained credulity because this one night he knew how important

604
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 4: this was, like a label was there, this was their shot,

605
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 4: and he got all unhinged about Brian and I just

606
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 4: thought he wouldn't have done that. Really, this is what

607
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 4: they had been working for the whole time.

608
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: There's an old saying, if you can't stand the heat,

609
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: get out of the kitchen. And the heat was turned

610
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: up and Zach got out of the kitchen because he

611
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: couldn't handle it. You know, he just melted down. Like

612
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: I've never it was hard to believe that anybody would

613
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: melt down that bad. Thats a situation unless they were

614
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: like hooked on substances or something.

615
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, he's not going to screw up this opportunity,

616
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: no at all. And bringing first of all, the Gwen

617
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: Stefani had.

618
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: I mean it was hard enough to believe, you know,

619
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: in that Tom Hanks starring movie that Tom You Do

620
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: that Thing You Do, which is a great movie by

621
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: the way, great movie, great songs, all that stuff, but

622
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: that Jonathan's sketch character, is it Jonathan sheck? Sorry, that

623
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: was even It was difficult to accept that ay that

624
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: had that kind of national recognition was going to blow

625
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: up the band. But there you go, there's like, you know,

626
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: there's egos and then there's egos and right right right

627
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: and talk about you know, a first class d bag

628
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: to live Tyler, right, I mean, geez, So maybe that

629
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: was the inspiration. I don't know, yeah, right.

630
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 3: The brawl though, where they're all brawling, was not funny

631
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: for me, Like I kind of was like, oh until

632
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: I did giggle at Joel when the curtain's closing and

633
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: it's like there's a Joel. So that was something that

634
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: brought me back.

635
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 5: And Rory with her camcorder, just like standing in the row,

636
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 5: I was so distracted by the brawl.

637
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 3: I didn't even see that.

638
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 4: Oh the very beginning of the fight, like that when

639
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 4: they were showing Rory and behind her the sound guy

640
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 4: he like leans back and he like puts his feet

641
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 4: up on the desk or something. Need like, the look

642
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: on his face was hilarious. It's like, oh, yeah, they

643
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 4: are another.

644
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I feel like, okay, we've talked

645
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: about that enough. And then like I although it did,

646
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 3: I was. I did have a sort of a pang

647
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: of pain for Lame crying and being like what happened?

648
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: Like what are you doing? You ruined her?

649
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 5: I did for her in that moment, like in the alleyway.

650
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought Kiko did a really good job in

651
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 4: that scene because she disbelief, like what did you just do?

652
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 4: I thought she was I thought she did it.

653
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: Really it was the only scene that was believable.

654
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agreed.

655
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: All right, so we're kind of going out of order,

656
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: but that's okay. I think we should talk about Christopher

657
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: and just all the Christopher stuff because I was glad

658
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 3: to get the payoff of the.

659
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: Were you were you in as much pain as I was?

660
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: No, Sae, because I still like Christopher.

661
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: We're not going to agree on this. I needed a

662
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: barf bag to watch those scenes.

663
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 4: I really did.

664
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if if there was anything more obnoxious than

665
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: Christopher unsuccessful, it's Christopher with money, you know, and bubbling

666
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: with wealth.

667
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 4: I think you're saying, I'm loaded. Should be a drinking

668
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 4: game because he would all be on the floor.

669
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: And how much money do we think he has? Well,

670
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: that's what's all taking.

671
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 5: It confused me because he comes from money, right, so

672
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 5: it's not but I.

673
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: Think they he's got like Gilmoury parents that don't give

674
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 3: it to him.

675
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, But like up until he was what seventeen, he

676
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 5: did grow up in a very wealthy family. So the

677
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 5: way he was acting was if again.

678
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: He never he'd never get his hands on it, right.

679
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: I think that's not the type of guy that's going

680
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: to give his loser son any money.

681
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 3: And he had total control. He has total control over it.

682
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 3: Now my gut is he got what do we think

683
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: ten million?

684
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: Oh more than that?

685
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: Do you think?

686
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah, I think he got fifty million.

687
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: Dollar, not one hundred million million because he said he

688
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: never has to worry about money again. But I know

689
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: he's not like a billionaire. I'm going he.

690
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: Ye, I'm going money fifty to seventy five.

691
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 5: He said he put everything away for his daughter already

692
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 5: that has like way more money to spend on Laura

693
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 5: l Rory.

694
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: All right, I'm going twenty million.

695
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got a few money, did because.

696
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: You figure the grandpa had one hundred million and the

697
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: parents don't need any of it. What did we decide

698
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 3: the Gilmour's were worth one hundred million, no, fifty million,

699
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: But the Huntsburgers are worth like a quarter of a

700
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: billion or something?

701
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably, Yeah, a lot of dough, A lot of dough,

702
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: not of doray mean.

703
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 5: Actually I actually just looked it up. There's I mean,

704
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 5: I don't know how accurate this is, but apparently the

705
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 5: Gilmours are worth upwards of fifty million.

706
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 3: Okay, And what about the Huntsburgers. I think the Huntsburgers

707
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: are like quarter of a billion. They're definitely more than

708
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: the Gilmoars.

709
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: Well they're yeah, I think they're I think they're half

710
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: a million.

711
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: Two hundred How Google? How much money did Christopher get

712
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 3: from his grandpa? I don't know, see what it does?

713
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: Everybody? Wait, well, if he was that happy, then it

714
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: was a lot.

715
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 5: Right, It's a lot around fifty million.

716
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 3: Fifty millions. So Scott, you nailed.

717
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: It, kind of kind of nailing.

718
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: I still was amused by the Okay, so with the

719
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: Christopher lorelaies scene like I always like them together, and

720
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 3: I still thought he was sort of funny with the life.

721
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. No, it's not just Luke saying this,

722
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: it's me the critic saying and I don't like them.

723
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 3: Together by people don't, I do not.

724
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: It's cringe for me. It is.

725
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: It's just like I prefer you, but I'm not. I

726
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: have something about it. I still like their chemistry. But

727
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 3: I mean he's like, who did you want to castle?

728
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: You know, like all that jazz and then him noticing

729
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: the ring. So that's in the second with him. Yeah,

730
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: but it was like, okay, all right, he wants her

731
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 3: to be happy. Oh, Scott, you're just hate what's coming?

732
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: I know what That line, I just want you happy

733
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: is just talk. It's all talk, true Aulterio motives. I

734
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: know it, I feel it. I don't know what. I

735
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: don't know what episodes, it's just yeah, he's just really

736
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: Oh you're about to just.

737
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 5: Not Yeah, I'm not going to bore everyone this with this,

738
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 5: but I'll just put in our group chat. But there's

739
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 5: a whole article on everyone in the shows like their

740
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 5: characters rank by wealth.

741
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 3: Oh please us give us that I want to know,

742
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 3: give it, give it quit?

743
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 5: So, Laura, I assuming that the dragonfly made somewhere around

744
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 5: fifty thousand dollars as a manager at the independence end,

745
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 5: and the salary would have increased from there, Suki between

746
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 5: forty five to eighty a year as a chef. Okay,

747
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 5: Kirk with his fifteen it says, with his fifteen thousand jobs,

748
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 5: is probably worth about two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

749
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, because remember he had all the money for the

750
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 3: down payment on the twig for Luke.

751
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's he he with his savings, he's has about

752
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 5: five hundred thousand dollars.

753
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: I think he has more.

754
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep them.

755
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 5: And then with with Christopher, it says, assumed fifty million

756
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 5: with that inheritance. Wow, the Gilmore.

757
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: Is a logan.

758
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

759
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 3: What about the Huntburg Oh I'm getting there.

760
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 5: So okay, so uh go faster the Sorry it's a

761
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 5: long article.

762
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 1: I'm excusing we're not going to read the whole article.

763
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 5: Hunsburgers are I mean about two hundred million dollars a year,

764
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 5: that's what they're bringing in.

765
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: The Huntsburgers bringing two hundred million a year, and they're

766
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: worth a heck of a lot more than.

767
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 3: There were like a billion. Yeah, so they're billionaires.

768
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, yes, yeah, well.

769
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 4: You're on fire.

770
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're on fire.

771
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 5: Best It's like it's a long article of skiing.

772
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: Was getting a little dull, all right, okay, okay, back

773
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: to first of all, total random Buddy Hackett shout out,

774
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: like no one cared what Hacket done.

775
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: But it was sad because he was such a beloved

776
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: guy and he'll always be alive.

777
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: And then there that was a funny scene where Rory

778
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: really talks about why she doesn't want to take the grandparents'

779
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 3: money and lauralize like am I in a Freaky Friday?

780
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: Like that was a funny scene. Good, good, just banter there.

781
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: Forty thousand dollars sex?

782
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: What's just what does that mean? What doesn't even.

783
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 3: Remember they built the whole house and then they found

784
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: out it was her sex house.

785
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like thousand dollars sex house born? Forty thousand

786
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: dollars are you talking about?

787
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 3: So we kind of talked about the Liz and Luke scene.

788
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: So now we're really at Thanksgiving and we you know,

789
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 3: she comes clean. Now interestingly, she comes clean to Luke

790
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 3: about Christopher after the fact.

791
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 5: That's so that was my flag.

792
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: So I stand by that Luke hit. There should be

793
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: no issue with him getting everything sort of figured out

794
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: and situated and then telling her because that's what she does.

795
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't blame it. I'm like she should have

796
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 5: told her. She should have told Luke like, hey, I

797
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 5: am going to meet up with Christopher. This is what happened.

798
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 5: I want to let you know before it happens. Not

799
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 5: I got all settled. We met twice, you know, like

800
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 5: not even once. Twice She met with Christopher by herself

801
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 5: and then with Rory. It had to be over the

802
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 5: course of what like a couple of days.

803
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: Maybe think she should have consulted with Luke before she

804
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: even met with him.

805
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think if anything, just be like, hey, he

806
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 5: wants to talk. I don't know what's going on, but

807
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 5: I want you to know. Maybe not even I don't

808
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 5: think Luke needs to go, but at least to know

809
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 5: that they're meeting up and then be like it wasn't

810
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 5: about me, it was about Rory and him taking care

811
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 5: of Rory and that way he knows the process of

812
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 5: it happening, Like to just dump it all on him

813
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 5: and like Luke couldn't be mad because of.

814
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, that's a big discussion and her

815
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: just standing there at an inopportune moment during a Thanksgiving celebration,

816
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: pulling him off to the side and explaining what happened

817
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: and then that's it and that's not even going to

818
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: be a discussion. Yeah, and putting Luke in that situation,

819
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: I think is disrespectful.

820
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 5: No, I agree.

821
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: I think, Oh, that's a big deal. Somebody drops in

822
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: all that money all of a sudden that's so connected

823
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: to her emotionally, and you know by actual DNA that

824
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: that's a big conversation between a committed up that's living

825
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: together and engaged, because that kind of money can destroy

826
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: your relationship or any kind of intervention doesn't even have

827
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: to be a lot of money if it What if

828
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: it's like the ex husband comes back, you know, the

829
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: flaky es loser ex husband comes back and he wants

830
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: to you know, you know, contribute to this or contribute

831
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: to that, and not even in a big way. Right,

832
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: it's still like, why is this guy in our lives?

833
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: What is going on all of a sudden? Now you

834
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: know he's using money to wedge his way in somehow

835
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: can't you see? I mean, where are those scenes? Right? So, well,

836
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: do you think I actually do have a big problem

837
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: with it? I think I think, I think?

838
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 3: So what if you think about your response? I think

839
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 3: that's absolutely great. He's her dad, glad he's doing it

840
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: because he's guilty of.

841
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: Doing it himself. And I think the fans are smarter

842
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: than this, and they're like, why are these two characters

843
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: being destroyed before our eyes? Why are they behaving this way?

844
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: They're supposed to love each other and respect each other

845
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: and trust each other, and now that is all go

846
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: going to go away because in the real world, nobody

847
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: acts this way, right, nobody's going and if they do,

848
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: there are dire consequences. This is the kind of stuff

849
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: that ends relationships. And the fans know this.

850
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 5: So do you think that Christopher should have gone straight

851
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 5: to Rory instead of going to Lauraise? She's an adult.

852
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 3: That feels weird to me, though, I think Christopher.

853
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: Lurl I would have been justified to be pissed off, right,

854
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: Why are you going to Rory with all this money?

855
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: You come to me first, pal? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

856
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: agree with so that I can discuss it with Luke.

857
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: But you know Luke is Luke has given half a

858
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: hug and no conversation. It's not being considered.

859
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: I think that it's Christopher. Look, it's a little weird

860
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 3: that Christopher's off offering Loreli money, do you know what

861
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: I mean? Maybe a little bit. It's not weird that

862
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: he's offering his daughter money like that technically sort of

863
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 3: is her money, right, so like he should pay for school,

864
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 3: he should buy her a car, he should by her

865
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: her first house or her first apartment whatever.

866
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 4: When he first approaches it with Laura, I he's the

867
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 4: way he said it, and I think I wrote it down.

868
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 4: He said, oh yeah, okay, So he says he talks

869
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: about everything he did for Gigi, and then he says,

870
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 4: and now I want to take care of you, and

871
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 4: then he adds you and Rory.

872
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: That was weird, like he he didn't.

873
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: Come out saying I want to take care of Rory.

874
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 4: He said I want to take care of you, meaning Laurai,

875
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 4: and then Rory was kind of like an afterthought, which

876
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 4: is typically Christopher.

877
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 3: Right.

878
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 4: Oh, I was gonna say, I think the thing with

879
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 4: with Laura I telling Luke. I think plot wise, she

880
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 4: couldn't tell him right away because it wasn't going to work.

881
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 4: If she told him before he knew about April, he

882
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 4: had the reaction that he had because he was thinking

883
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 4: about April and how he should be a dad to.

884
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: So if she had told him too soon, he.

885
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 4: Would have like freaked out and blown up like he

886
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 4: did the first time Christopher's name came up.

887
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: So I think there was any insane, healthy individual. Wo wash,

888
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: somebody's trying to drop in all this money and invade

889
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: your relationship, you.

890
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 4: Know, Yeah, So I think there was a timing issue there.

891
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: Listen, the classy move, okay, would have been, if you

892
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: want to take care of your daughter, you want to

893
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: take care of your uh beloved Laureli, you do it anonymously.

894
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: You do it, you do it in some clever way

895
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: where all of a sudden, and you don't sit there

896
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: and take all this gloating credit for it right in

897
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: their faces and aren't I a great guy? And now

898
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to screw up your lives? And I know

899
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to screw up your lives. Because if he

900
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: doesn't understand how much of a nuclear bombness is on

901
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: Luke and Laureli's relationship or on either of their lives.

902
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: Then he's an idiot and he's got no feelings and

903
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: he's got no empathy. Right, I stand you. It's a

904
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: really manipulative move. It's super manipulative. And I agree with

905
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: you on what a creep, what a low life like

906
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: coming swooping in to their lives. And I'm rich Hey,

907
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: I want to take care of everybody. Really, you a whole,

908
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: she's got a really.

909
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: Agree he should take care of his daughter finding.

910
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: Anonymously, anonymously, anonymously. No, no, I don't care. He hasn't

911
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: been her dad, and he should do it anonymously. She

912
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: should just call Yale pay the damn bills. I don't

913
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: want anybody knowing that I did this. You can contact

914
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: Emily and Richard so that they don't have to do

915
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: it anymore, But I don't want anybody know knowing that

916
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: I did this. And then he sends a message or

917
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: an anonymous message to Emily and uh Richard and says

918
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: that you know you're you're under no more obligation to

919
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: pay for that tuition. It's taken care of. Signed it on.

920
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: A gesture. But look, I do think it's weird to

921
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: call up your former like baby or your baby mama,

922
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 3: your former girlfriend who's engaged and offer money.

923
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 5: Yeah it's weird. Yeah, it's just.

924
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 3: Kind of inappropriate, right, I get it. I get where

925
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 3: he's I do think he has the best of intentions.

926
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 3: Or maybe he could have offered to pay her back

927
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 3: for some of all the money she spent to raise Rory.

928
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 3: What There may be a move there, But for me,

929
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 3: it's totally fine that he's calling Rory and saying, I

930
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 3: now have money, and I want to pay for school,

931
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: your car, I want here. There's money in a bank

932
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 3: account for your future, your retirement, your down payment on

933
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: your first house, whatever it may be. As a father,

934
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 3: I do think that is sort of him. That is

935
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: an obligation, if that's the right word, And if he's

936
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: doing something for Gigi, he should do the exact same

937
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 3: thing for Rory. In my opinis, Okay, they're both his kids.

938
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: But doesn't he have an obligation to to not met.

939
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 3: Current money's meddling. I think he's doing something for Gigi,

940
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 3: he should say I've put aside five million dollars for Gigi.

941
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: You have the same you are my kid. There should

942
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 3: be nothing that Gigi gets that Rory does not get.

943
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 5: And Also, he didn't support them while Rory was growing up,

944
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 5: so this is kind of making up for it, like

945
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 5: let him pay for Yale.

946
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 4: And he also doesn't know that she's in a relationship,

947
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 4: but he doesn't know necessarily that she's back with Luke.

948
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: Right, But I still think it's weird that he's like

949
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: offering Loreli the money. It's just all about Rory.

950
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: That is our kid, Yes, trying to buy his way

951
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: back into her heart.

952
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 3: You're right, You're probably right, is probably right.

953
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: You're probably detached from reality that guy is.

954
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 3: You're probably right on that. Yeah, So okay, two more

955
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: scenes we have to talk about Harris and Rory. That's

956
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: a funny, sort of just a little amusing scene that

957
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: teas up something coming, so it's kind of important. But

958
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: I liked that Honor Huntsberger called I know, although it

959
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 3: was gut wrenching to Rory to realize that Logan said

960
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 3: they broke up. When Honor refers to Logan as young Seacrest.

961
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 5: I thought of you, Amy, I thought I.

962
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 4: Texted you, And I'm like, I don't know if she's

963
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 4: watched again, I'm going I must have forgotten about it

964
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 4: from when it happened because we must have like called

965
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 4: it out.

966
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 5: When is this like peak American idol?

967
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 3: Yes, because this is two thousand and four, right six

968
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 3: and this is two thousand and six, So yeah, I

969
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 3: had a launch like in two thousand and one.

970
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like the hair like I kind of.

971
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 5: I was like, oh yeah, and.

972
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 3: Matt Zukrie is a little bit seacresty. I was like

973
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: that was rad. And then uh, you know, we see

974
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 3: Luke go into the like what's this? What are the

975
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 3: things called where you put food? Why is the name

976
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 3: out of my head?

977
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: What?

978
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 5: What you know?

979
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 3: The room where pantry in the kitchen?

980
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: That's the kitchen back there.

981
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 3: He tried calling He tried calling Anna, which, by the way,

982
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 3: how about the shout out to for one one for

983
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 3: us one to be connected? And we all used to

984
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: do it, and I think it was expensive and we

985
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: were all dumb dumbed because I think we got charge

986
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 3: of quarter every time we freaking did that. And suddenly

987
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 3: on your phone bill you're like twenty to for one one.

988
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 3: Remember you'd call four one one and go Domino's Pizza?

989
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 3: Can you connect me?

990
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 5: Like, because he couldn't use the internet to look up

991
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 5: the phone number, I was going to make a point

992
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 5: about Luke without his uniform on before I was bombarded

993
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 5: with inappropriate comments, he does seem like.

994
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: And given the situation, but he does seem like a

995
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: very I mean that hat and the flannel and the

996
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: diner and his attitude all seemed to work together, and

997
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: it all kinds of work. It all kind of works, right,

998
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: you accept it. But without the hat, without the flannel,

999
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: and he's sitting there and he still looks like Luke,

1000
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: but he's got that stank look on his face, right,

1001
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: he's yeah.

1002
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 3: Like so do you kind of think of the flannel

1003
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 3: and the hat as like his coat of armor or

1004
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 3: his cape or whatever.

1005
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: He takes it off and he disappears like he's just

1006
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: a yeah, he's just like geez man. I mean, he

1007
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: couldn't even smile once when he was sitting at that thing.

1008
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 3: I think he's so stressed about April.

1009
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: No, obviously, but still, I mean covered a little anyway.

1010
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, I got I'm throwing a flag on

1011
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: myself maybe for.

1012
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 4: Okay, you know what I mean?

1013
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 3: What yeah, I mean it's complicated, Like I don't know

1014
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 3: how I would be.

1015
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: It's like when fans come to a comic con every

1016
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: once in a while and I'm not wearing a hat

1017
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: or anything because I don't wear the hat. Usually they

1018
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: get disappointed, and I think I was a little disappointed

1019
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving tale scene that he.

1020
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 3: Was bro, there's your flannel. So what is our favorite lines?

1021
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 1: Oh? That's easy.

1022
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you like oh, there's no.

1023
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: The gill line. Yeah, anyway, Susanne, what's your favorite line?

1024
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 4: My favorite line, surprisingly is from Christopher, given how much

1025
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 4: I don't like Christopher, but I laughed when he said

1026
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 4: when he was telling Laura they were at the restaurant

1027
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: talking about all the things that he could do with

1028
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 4: his money, and he says, you can crush people with money.

1029
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 4: You want some people crushing money?

1030
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 3: That was cute, bobs that stickers. I was like, what,

1031
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 3: I still like young young seacrests.

1032
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 5: I love the scene with Pair and she's like, I'm

1033
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 5: coming and Paris Is like what's that sound like? Just

1034
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 5: like so just like cold, and I just love Paris

1035
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 5: so much so and she's like.

1036
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 3: Call back to such a callback.

1037
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, and she's like, well, of course you're coming back,

1038
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 5: and what else would you do? Like, I don't know,

1039
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 5: I just love Paris.

1040
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god. That was good. Paris. That's how I

1041
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 3: want Paris.

1042
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 4: To be always.

1043
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it wasn't funny.

1044
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 3: Came back to like her bad drum roll?

1045
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Amy, what's your favorite line?

1046
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 3: Gosh, I stink I'm still with young Seacrest.

1047
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: I like that.

1048
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like.

1049
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 3: You know, I have to say, though, my favorite was

1050
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 3: Liz and Luke. I think that scene. Oh and then

1051
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 3: you know, if I had to pick a banter, it's

1052
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 3: when Rory and Lorelei are discussing how she wants to

1053
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 3: be out from her grandmother's thumb and the Freaky Friday,

1054
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 3: and that every line was really entertaining to me in

1055
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 3: that sort of ping pongy.

1056
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: All right, say what are you giving it? What's your

1057
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: measuring stick?

1058
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 4: I thought this was a good episode. I'm going to

1059
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 4: give this nine sugar toes.

1060
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 5: Oh got one? Uh, it wasn't my favorite, so I'm

1061
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 5: gonna give it eight.

1062
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

1063
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 5: What else was in this episode of like blanking eight

1064
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 5: turkeys for Thanksgiving?

1065
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: Amy?

1066
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 3: Nine? Yakov's total shout out to ya? What's his name?

1067
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it. I don't know. Is it in

1068
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: the Nines?

1069
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1070
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: It was. It was very It was actually very enjoyable. Yeah,

1071
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you anything that gives me that many laughs,

1072
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean like good belly laughs. You know you gotta

1073
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: go nine seat. I want to go nine to nine

1074
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 1: five nine three uh, and I'm gonna go uh nine

1075
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: point three suky backhand fists to the poor assistant.

1076
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 3: And paper towels flying good one.

1077
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: That's it, everybody. Thank you, ladies, Shusan French, Taras suit

1078
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: Amy Sugarman, my Intrepid crew anyway, best fans on the planet.

1079
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1080
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1081
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1082
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1085
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1086
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