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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Monday edition, Clay Travis Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us

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Speaker 1: as we hit Thanksgiving week. I know many of you

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Speaker 1: may be traveling this week. You may be out and

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Speaker 1: about all over the country, and we are certainly thankful

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Speaker 1: that you are choosing to spend your time with us.

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Speaker 1: Kids are out in the Travis household. Buck. If you

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Speaker 1: hear screaming and yelling in the background, it may well

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Speaker 1: be video games. It might be the World Cup which

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Speaker 1: is underway. There are any number of things which the

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Speaker 1: Travis boys could be cartwheeling about the house discussing what

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Speaker 1: we are going to discuss, many different things. Lauren Bobert

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Speaker 1: is going to join us at one thirty. She has

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Speaker 1: been reelected in Colorado despite the fact that MSNBC said

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Speaker 1: she should go on only fans. I bet that Lauren

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Speaker 1: Bobert will be pretty entertaining in the second hour with us.

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Speaker 1: But Buck, let's start here. Two years ago, you will

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Speaker 1: remember Donald Trump sat down for an interview with Leslie

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Speaker 1: Stall of sixty minutes, and during the course of that interview,

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Speaker 1: Trump asked her why sixty minutes and CBS were not

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Speaker 1: actually covering the Hunter Biden and Joe Biden laptop scandal,

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Speaker 1: and Leslie Stall said, oh, well, we can't verify it,

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Speaker 1: and maybe at some point we will play that audio

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Speaker 1: for those of you, again who cannot remember that moment.

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Speaker 1: But this morning, Buck, you can imagine my surprise when

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Speaker 1: I woke up and after two years, CBS News finally

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Speaker 1: wants all of its audience to know a little while

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Speaker 1: after the mid terms, two years after Joe Biden entered

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Speaker 1: into the White House. Oh yeah, it wasn't disinformation, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't a rush and plot. The Hunter Biden laptop, it's real.

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Speaker 1: Just listen to this audio. And then I've got so

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Speaker 1: many thoughts about this, Buck, and I know you do too.

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Speaker 1: For those of you who did not hear it, and

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Speaker 1: I certainly understand if you weren't watching CBS this morning,

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Speaker 1: it's important that they are just now telling their audience,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this laptop, it's real. As Republicans take control

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Speaker 1: of the House, Hunter Biden, the President's sign will be

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Speaker 1: a target for investigations, and that means data from a

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Speaker 1: laptop reported to belong to Biden could be crucial to

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Speaker 1: the investigatory process. CBS News has obtained its data not

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Speaker 1: through a third party or political operative, but directly from

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Speaker 1: the source who told us they provided it to the

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Speaker 1: FBI under subpoena, and we commissioned an independent forensic review

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Speaker 1: to determine its authenticity. See Your investigative Corresponding Katherine Harris

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Speaker 1: joins us now with what we've found, Good morning, Tony.

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Speaker 1: The laptop data we had analyzed showed no evidence it

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Speaker 1: was faked or tampered with independent forensic review. Clay, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's just the gold standard right there. I mean, after

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Speaker 1: two years of every person with even the most basic

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Speaker 1: brain power available to them understanding that this is real.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad they brought in some random guy or

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Speaker 1: gal or whomever to tell us we already know so now,

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Speaker 1: but this is interesting. There are different theories here. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of why do I want to tell you why

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Speaker 1: I think CBS is doing this? Why do you think

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Speaker 1: CBS is doing this at this stage? I think because

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Speaker 1: and I am fascinated by this story on so many

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Speaker 1: Two years later, I think they know that the evidence

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Speaker 1: House was consequential. I think they know that when the

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Speaker 1: investigation starts inside the House of Representing Representatives surrounding the laptop,

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Speaker 1: that the evidence is going to be so overwhelming that

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Speaker 1: it's going to be virtually impossible to argue that the

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Speaker 1: that's I would largely just co sign to that. I

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Speaker 1: why I pushed it to you there. Well, because step okay,

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Speaker 1: on top of that, Buck, I know I said I

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Speaker 1: I still think they're not going to charge him, or

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Speaker 1: if they do charge Hunter Biden, it will be essentially

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Speaker 1: know this first of all, if you're making millions of dollars, congratulations,

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Speaker 1: but not if you're getting it from you know, Chinese

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Speaker 1: if you make millions of dollars and you don't declare it,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna go to prison right when they find that

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Speaker 1: you haven't declared the million, you're not gonna get a like, hey,

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Speaker 1: don't do that again. So that's one part of it,

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Speaker 1: I think for CBS, and maybe this is a more

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Speaker 1: still watch CBS News. Funnily enough, I was an intern

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Speaker 1: The people that still watch CBS they want to believe Clay,

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Speaker 1: that it's the gold standard. And so this allows them,

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Speaker 1: if they believe CBS up to this point, to say, well, look,

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Speaker 1: they've gotta you know, an independent forensic analyst now. So

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Speaker 1: because that's because they're so honest. That's why they're so honest.

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Speaker 1: And I know that's silly to us, but if you

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Speaker 1: of an organization like CBS, it gives you at least

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Speaker 1: a plausible deniability of the stupidity of pretending the laptop

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Speaker 1: wasn't real. Right, You're not dumb. You just needed to

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Speaker 1: wait for the independent forensic analysis. On your Biden point, though,

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Speaker 1: they'll put aviators on him all day twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 1: They don't care. Well, here's my analogy, and I do

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Speaker 1: think it's a good one. Trump and Biden are right now,

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Speaker 1: Imagine that, say Ron De Santis is the Republican nominee,

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Speaker 1: Santis would obliterate Joe Biden. I think we could be

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Speaker 1: That's like I want to agree, I want to believe you,

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Speaker 1: got to keep the Federman rule in mind here, my friend,

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Speaker 1: it's very different issue. But but what the Democrats did

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Speaker 1: the list. They can elect literally anybody who is alive.

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Speaker 1: a perfect storm of Republican ineptitude. But let me just

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Speaker 1: have Alvin Bragg in New York, the district attorney there,

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Speaker 1: the woke, progressive, lunatic district attorney who still has his

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Speaker 1: job because Kathy Hulkel is still the governor of New York. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: Lee Zelden almost pulled it off, but didn't. Clay. You

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Speaker 1: have that investigation about Stormy Daniels. You had Letitia James,

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Speaker 1: the Attorney General of the State of New York, bringing

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Speaker 1: a civil investigation around inflation of assets. What else? There's

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Speaker 1: some others I think that I haven't even what are

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Speaker 1: I can't think of all the Trump and oh the Trumpe.

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Speaker 1: There's a Georgia investigation going on from the Georgia like

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Speaker 1: Da Atlanta Air. I can't even keep up over what

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Speaker 1: exactly was said it happened there. There are I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's like five or six different investigations going on simultaneous.

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Speaker 1: And the woman who wrote the book and said that

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Speaker 1: Trump's actually assaulted her decades, you know, like thirty years

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Speaker 1: ago in the department store she I saw. She's you know,

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Speaker 1: coming back now she's trying to do a personal suit

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Speaker 1: against Trump over that. Basically, the goal of the Democrats

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Speaker 1: seems to be to just sue and investigate Trump into submission.

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Speaker 1: And I have to say, this is one thing that

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Speaker 1: will not work because even people starting to get a

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Speaker 1: lot of people call with me a bar lago. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you, they're like, you know, I'm starting to feel

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Speaker 1: like I have a little bit of a concern here

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Speaker 1: about how this campaign would play out whatever. But then

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Speaker 1: they announced the special counsels and I'm just back in

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Speaker 1: the bunker with Trump. Man. Can't allow this to go

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Speaker 1: as a tool for the left without pushback. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a big sense, there's a big sense

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Speaker 1: among a lot of people that it's almost they make

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Speaker 1: it bigger than Trump by being such lunatics with how

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Speaker 1: they're trying to destroy Trump, like they want him to run,

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Speaker 1: but they also have to prosecute him. They can't let

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Speaker 1: him run fairly. They want him He's their great satan.

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Speaker 1: The only thing holding the Democrat Party together is Trump.

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Speaker 1: There was a stat I was reading over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: It was in the New York Times or Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember which one, that thirty eight percent of

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Speaker 1: voters said they went to go cast a vote against

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden because they thought, Hey, he's doing such a

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Speaker 1: bad job. Buck. Thirty six percent of people went to

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Speaker 1: go cast a vote against Donald Trump. He's not in office, right,

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Speaker 1: So Democrats have managed to connect Trump to mid terms

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Speaker 1: that are occurring when he's out of office and motivate

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Speaker 1: their base to go vote based on that. So they

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Speaker 1: both simultaneously need him and want him to run. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's some of the essence of what's going

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Speaker 1: on with these charges. Now we come back in this

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Speaker 1: next segment, I'll tell you what I thought about the

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Speaker 1: special counsel announcement, because it's actually something if you listen

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Speaker 1: to the show. I don't know if somebody going to the

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Speaker 1: the archives. I said there should have been a special

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Speaker 1: counsel appointed the minute that they began this investigation, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't hear hardly anybody arguing for that. But the

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Speaker 1: minute that the Mari lago investigation began. I said, you know,

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Speaker 1: this can't be run by Merrick Garland, but what does

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Speaker 1: it mean that he's decided now to do it? If

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Speaker 1: you brought so you're talking about the special counsels against Trump,

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Speaker 1: because the reality is, if you were trying to create

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Speaker 1: you would need a special counsel to be appointed, it

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Speaker 1: would be the son of a sitting president who's getting

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars from foreign adversaries states who's under federal

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Speaker 1: investigation for a variety of crimes. That is, if you

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Speaker 1: were yiding the basis for the special council to even exist,

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Speaker 1: it would be Hunter Biden. And notice we don't. There's

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Speaker 1: no Hunter Biden special Council, which is, by the way,

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Speaker 1: if there was, I would start to think maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: they do have some plans for a Hunter. The reason

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Speaker 1: they don't is because ultimately Merrick Garland gets to steer

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Speaker 1: this thing and make sure that the sitting president of

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party's son is in no real criminal jeopardy.

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Speaker 1: This is how they play the game. Meanwhile, you know,

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Speaker 1: Where are printaples? You know? We get like Lose Cheney

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Speaker 1: in an Insane World The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: show if the Department of Justice can show that these

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Speaker 1: were indeed very sensitive documents, which I think they probably were,

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Speaker 1: and also showed that the President consciously was involved in

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Speaker 1: its leading the department, deceiving the government and playing games

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Speaker 1: after he had received the subpoena for the documents. Those

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Speaker 1: the basis for legitimately inditing the pressure. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I'm speculating, but but given what's gone on, I think

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Speaker 1: they probably have the evidence that would check the box.

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Speaker 1: They have the case. Do you think they will? I

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Speaker 1: think it's becoming increasingly more likely, increasingly more likely that

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Speaker 1: they will indict the the only Republican officially running for

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four nomination. I remember we did tell

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Speaker 1: you this. We call this one right that the the

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Speaker 1: presidential election basically starts the day after the mid term

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Speaker 1: here because of all the dynamics. There's no h into regnum,

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Speaker 1: there's no you know, time, the no honeymoon period or

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. It goes right into it.

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Speaker 1: And the announcement of these really dual Special Council investigations

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Speaker 1: into the into former President Trump shows exactly where this

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Speaker 1: is heading. For one thing, Clay, it means that we're

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Speaker 1: going to have an ongoing What I said about the

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Speaker 1: machinery of the Democrats, I think that's absolutely true. CNN,

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Speaker 1: these chips, they're gonna start ramping it up more and more.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have just the drip drip updates of anti

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Speaker 1: Trump daily propaganda from these investigations, right, and even if

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Speaker 1: it's not leaks from the investigations, it'll just be speculation

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Speaker 1: from home. The speculation here, a speculation there about where

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Speaker 1: this is all going. If they indict Trump, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's two years, so there's probably yeah, they could delay.

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Speaker 1: But if you're Trump, how do you play that? Right?

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Speaker 1: What do you do? Obviously you rally people to your banner,

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Speaker 1: but I think you want the trial to proceed before.

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Speaker 1: You probably wanted to go more quickly. You don't want

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Speaker 1: to hang over your head. I don't know. This is

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Speaker 1: uncharted territory, man. This is wild stuff we're looking at,

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Speaker 1: and it looks likely. It's it's wild. But this is

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Speaker 1: one where I would say, buck, I think Trump getting

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Speaker 1: indicted helps him, and I think Democrats to know that

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Speaker 1: Trump getting indicted helps him with Republicans but hurts him

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Speaker 1: with independence. So this is one where I actually think

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Speaker 1: they are being smart and strategic. And I know sometimes

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Speaker 1: we give too much credit to Democrats and sometimes they're

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Speaker 1: just incompetent. The way I see this playing out is

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Speaker 1: in their mind. The thing you need to understand is

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Speaker 1: Democrats want Donald Trump to be the nominee in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. Okay, I understand there's some of you out

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Speaker 1: there that are saying they're doing this because they don't

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Speaker 1: want him to be No, no, no no, no no. Democrats,

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Speaker 1: if they could hand select the Republican nominee right now,

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Speaker 1: they would pick Donald Trump. And I think what they

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Speaker 1: know is when they indict him, it strengthens him with

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Speaker 1: the Republican base because you and me and a lot

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Speaker 1: of our listeners out there buck are going to be

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Speaker 1: outraged by the very idea that the sitting president Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: is dieting his political rival effectively, and they're doing it

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Speaker 1: under the cloak and dagger of the Special Council. So

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Speaker 1: I don't think that they would be willing. Actually, I

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Speaker 1: can't say what they're willing to do and not willing

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Speaker 1: to do, because I'm not of the left, and I

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Speaker 1: think that they're I think that there is a very

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Speaker 1: high correlation between delusion, mental illness and being a far

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Speaker 1: left wing Democrat. I really, I really do believe that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that, So I can't tell you

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Speaker 1: exactly what they're willing to do. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: believe that this ends with Donald Trump actually spending time

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Speaker 1: in a minimum security federal prison somewhere. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they believe that there are there's some of their left

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Speaker 1: wing generally crazy people, but I mean, I mean the

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Speaker 1: ones calling the shot the rational. Yes, I mean the

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Speaker 1: ones that are in power and that you know, the

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Speaker 1: ones that are involved in this White House, etc. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course there's crazy people all over the place commenting

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Speaker 1: online about this. But I think it's much more likely

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Speaker 1: that they would if they bring this indictment, which seems

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Speaker 1: like a better than I've been told by two former

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Speaker 1: attorney generals personally but without attribution, in effect, that they

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Speaker 1: think that they are going to indict Donald Trump. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so let's call it better than fifty fifty. If they

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Speaker 1: indict him, the trial is happening now. The trial is

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Speaker 1: not going to be some huge sensational thing. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the problem with bringing the documents part of the trail.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it's the Marlago thing, the January sticks thing.

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Speaker 1: I think they probably can't make that stick, but maybe

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Speaker 1: they think they can if it is the mar Lago documents.

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Speaker 1: I know a bit about this because I had a

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Speaker 1: top secret clearance and I know how these things work.

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Speaker 1: You're never gonna find if they're never gonna stand up

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Speaker 1: in court and be like, see the nuclear codes written

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Speaker 1: on toilet paper next to the photo of Kim Jong Um, Like,

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Speaker 1: that's never gonna happen because you're exposing that they've become

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Speaker 1: part of the court record, and they say, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: we'll just have it secretively. Oh, you're gonna prosecute based

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Speaker 1: on secret evidence the former presidents of the United States.

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Speaker 1: That's not gonna fly. I think you though, you might

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Speaker 1: get into a phase where even if you get an indictment,

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Speaker 1: say on obstruction, which wouldn't require the documents and it's

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Speaker 1: rarely be public, that wouldn't be a central Let's say

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Speaker 1: they get Trump on criminal structure of justice, which they've

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Speaker 1: wanted Clay as you know since the Mueller probe, Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden's in a position he will not pardon Trump, of course,

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Speaker 1: but he may commute. He may commute it, right, and

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Speaker 1: so then you have the indicted and convicted and commuted

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Speaker 1: former president running against Joe Budden. Does anyone think this

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Speaker 1: is too crazy? Because I think it's I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: it's going to happen. I think it could happen. Yere's

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Speaker 1: the big thing I think that takes away. If you

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Speaker 1: strengthen Trump with your basse and get him the Republican nomination,

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Speaker 1: it would simultaneously crush him to have been indicted with

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Speaker 1: independent voters, and it would hand Democrats the White House.

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Speaker 1: So I think their play. I think there's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of four dimensional chess going on here is indict Trump,

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Speaker 1: which strengthens him with the base, makes him the nominee,

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Speaker 1: but weakens his chances to actually win in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four because independent voters, as we saw law, are not

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Speaker 1: breaking for Trump. They bought into this great Satan argument.

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Speaker 1: But Clay, you're leaving out here the big X factor,

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Speaker 1: which is if Hogan, the governor of Maryland, decides to run,

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Speaker 1: oh man, everything changes up the base. The base is

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Speaker 1: gonna flock to that guy. They'd be like, oh, we

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Speaker 1: don't need Trump. You got Hogan. Yeah, Larry Hogan, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be a great thing to have. Is

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Speaker 1: he the governor to even get that? Yeah, he is

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Speaker 1: the governor Maryland. Yeah, former governor Maryland. Is in buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton on the front lines of truth,