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Speaker 1: and Stacy Ross going to recap the Seahawks lost to

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Speaker 1: the Saints. Not a pretty one there, But we're also

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Speaker 1: going to talk to some Seahawks players, Will Disley joining

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Speaker 1: us in a bit, as well as some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite voices that cover this team, Steve Rabel, Ray Roberts,

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Speaker 1: John Boyle off Seahawks dot Com. And then obviously we're

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Speaker 1: going to take a look ahead to an upcoming divisional

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Speaker 1: matchup against the Arizona Cardinals. First though, a look back

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Speaker 1: to New Orleans, where not one but two players rushed

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, it's one thing to have a problem

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Speaker 1: it's very puzzling to me. So there's some interesting things

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Speaker 1: This is what's curious to me is that the blocker

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Speaker 1: But then you know, now all of a sudden, they're

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Speaker 1: Rabel and I which Rabe just poked his head in here,

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Speaker 1: we're kind of angry. Yeah. One of them was whenever

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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill came in the game, they didn't seem to

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Speaker 1: was really frustrating. As you mentioned Stas too, you know,

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Speaker 1: at that game and I see some of these same mistakes,

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Speaker 1: type of quarterback. This week. It's a different quarterback, different

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Speaker 1: watched film and they correct those things. Now once again,

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Speaker 1: It wasn't in this one. But for all the flaws

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I was just mystified that they couldn't.

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Speaker 1: Now this youngs is out there getting all these reps.

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Speaker 1: and it seems been really awesome. We've seen a lot

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Speaker 1: of checking out the line of scrimmage, a lot of

426
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Speaker 1: Audi Blend and all that stuff. Is this the most

427
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Speaker 1: you guys have ever checked out of plays? And and

428
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Speaker 1: how's the communication with you know? He seems very clear

429
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,399
Speaker 1: and concise about what he's doing. Yeah, you Gino has

430
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,360
Speaker 1: done a really good job. I think, you know, as

431
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Speaker 1: we move forward, you know, the whole offense is open

432
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,880
Speaker 1: to him. Um, obviously we had Russ, so we we've

433
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Speaker 1: done a lot of up tempo working out the line

434
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Speaker 1: of scrimmage stuff, you know in our past, or at

435
00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,639
Speaker 1: least when I've been with the Seahawks. Um, but you know,

436
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,240
Speaker 1: it's he's just done a good job. Man. He sees

437
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 1: the field really really well. You know, he's a smart guy.

438
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,680
Speaker 1: He's got over a decade in the NFL. He's seen

439
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 1: a lot of ball and uh, you know, we got

440
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 1: the guys that are capable of getting it done out there.

441
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,159
Speaker 1: Were you on the field for the check when Williams

442
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Speaker 1: m ran the ball? I can't remember the sixty nine

443
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 1: yard town Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we were out there

444
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 1: so easy. Look, um, working on the line of scrimmage

445
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Speaker 1: and um, you know, did you use hand signals? Because

446
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 1: it was really loud and there it looked like he

447
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 1: was verbal. Could you hear him? Yeah, it was verbal. Yep, yeah, yep. Um,

448
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 1: he's you know kind of Uh, we're all on the

449
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 1: same page though. You know, Shane does a good job

450
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Speaker 1: of prepping us. Hey, when we get in these formations,

451
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, expect certain certain looks. Um, yeah, for sure. Good,

452
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 1: We're always ready. What's the tight end room like? Because

453
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Speaker 1: I see three different type of tight ends when it

454
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Speaker 1: comes to attributes on the field and for what I know. Obviously,

455
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Speaker 1: I don't know you guys personally. I see three different

456
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Speaker 1: type of personalities as well. So what's that? What's that

457
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 1: room dynamic? Yeah, no, it's awesome. Uh sotke to have Noah.

458
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Speaker 1: You know, Colby and I have been rocking for a

459
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Speaker 1: long time, so we're kind of you know, old buddies,

460
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Speaker 1: and um, you know, I'm definitely like a d D

461
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Speaker 1: d out so like I practice, I'm going nuts and

462
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 1: dancing and yelling at people. And uh, you know, Noah's

463
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Speaker 1: very even keel. He likes to laugh. He loves a

464
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Speaker 1: good laugh. And then, um, you know Colby went to Stanford,

465
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Speaker 1: so he's a nerd. Nice tell him, did you get

466
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Speaker 1: Do you guys still do the the fines or was

467
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: that only like Wilson and Graham when they were what's

468
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: what's the fine? What are some of your fines? Because

469
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Speaker 1: I remember some of them, but I'm like, did you

470
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Speaker 1: guys invent new ones? I mean I have to I

471
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Speaker 1: have to shout out that the fines go to kids

472
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Speaker 1: with parents who are in cars. Rated very important to know,

473
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Speaker 1: that's all. It is the purpose of the fine boarder

474
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Speaker 1: rather than to keep meetings. Fine, Um, you know what,

475
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Speaker 1: someone are some of the good ones. We we added

476
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Speaker 1: a boomer fine for our coach, wonderful. So any movie

477
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Speaker 1: that he references that came out before the oldest person

478
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Speaker 1: in the room, which would be set before ninety six.

479
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: It happens all the time. Yeah, do you know how

480
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Speaker 1: many movies came out before ninety six? But it's not

481
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Speaker 1: our fault. That's fine, that's fine. I respect the name

482
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Speaker 1: one movie before nineteen ninety six that you've seen can

483
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Speaker 1: star wars as would be wiped out. Well, Dave, to

484
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Speaker 1: be fair, you beat you could get and boomer fines

485
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: every single day. You're we're still figuring out how to

486
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Speaker 1: get Dave to watch Mariners games on Apple TV. He's

487
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: still figuring it out. That would be a boomer fine.

488
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Speaker 1: What's another fine? Oh shoot, you're putting me on the

489
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Speaker 1: spot here. We added a couple We have a dancing fine. Okay,

490
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Speaker 1: So if you're blocking a d lineman and instead of like,

491
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Speaker 1: you grab hands, it looks really weird dancing. Okay, she

492
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Speaker 1: grabbed and you get weird things right. Sometimes sometimes you

493
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Speaker 1: grab your hands out there, Dave, you are dangerously close

494
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Speaker 1: to a boomer fine. Oh my gosh, what are the

495
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Speaker 1: cans find them up? All right? All right? He is

496
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Speaker 1: tight end Will Disley. Thankfully you can go finish your lunch.

497
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Speaker 1: It smells amazing. I'm happy for you. I would really

498
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Speaker 1: not like that, right you guys, don't go anywhere you're

499
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Speaker 1: gonna hear from Pete Carroll next you're listening to the

500
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Speaker 1: huddle Pete Carroll speaking with reporters. Right now, we'll take

501
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Speaker 1: you there with with the guys are in the area.

502
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Speaker 1: That kind of conversations never stop, you know, you're always on.

503
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Speaker 1: You know, I get textas you know. I'm so I

504
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: got it. I'm still ready, you know, um from a

505
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Speaker 1: number of guys. Um. So he's always been in our conversations,

506
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: you know. So, I mean, seriously, we called him this

507
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: last week, you know, to check out what's going on.

508
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: If he's available and he's working hard. He's been working

509
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Speaker 1: really hard. He's in terrific shape. He had a great

510
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Speaker 1: workout yesterday and so he's an impressive workout. Broken the

511
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Speaker 1: passer was back and get a whole attention this weekend.

512
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Speaker 1: I guess is there anything do you show those plays

513
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Speaker 1: to you to your guys and weeks out? Yeah, we

514
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Speaker 1: we'll get to it. We haven't done it yet. Um

515
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Speaker 1: I saw the one in the Casey game, and that

516
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,479
Speaker 1: was that was a one in a million play. I mean,

517
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Speaker 1: the guy he's taking the football out of the guy's

518
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Speaker 1: hands as they're on their way to the ground, and

519
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: as he secures the ball, you know, well how do

520
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: you brace and he put his hand down. But but

521
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Speaker 1: he landed on him. Okay, that's legit. But okay, yeah,

522
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: it's easy to see. Now. The official had to see

523
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Speaker 1: that all in a flash. He had to detect that

524
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Speaker 1: he saw him chest him, you know, to the ground,

525
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Speaker 1: and that that part kind of happened. But he was

526
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: making a great play to get to consciously pull that

527
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: ball away and then just do whatever he could to

528
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Speaker 1: survive his fault too and having to land on the quarterback.

529
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: So you like the official to see that. But the

530
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Speaker 1: fact that they didn't see it that way, and maybe

531
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Speaker 1: they don't even know. Maybe they don't even see it

532
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: that way now, But that's the way he could have

533
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: interpreted it. But it's that's you know, that's a lot

534
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Speaker 1: to ask, you know. So it goes into the heap

535
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: of he you know, he tore his weight on the

536
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Speaker 1: guy as they hit the ground and so that's why

537
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: that apparently happened. Um, we had a sack uh in

538
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Speaker 1: this game. I think it was big out sack. Um

539
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: he tossed the guy. The guy. It was almost, you know,

540
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: very similar to another one that the one on Brady

541
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Speaker 1: and uh. You know. So they're working at it. You know,

542
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: these calls as they happened, they started and work to

543
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: their tails off to try to finish fix you know,

544
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Speaker 1: the interpretations. I'm anxious to hear what happens. By the

545
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: end of this week when we get our stuff from them,

546
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Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll be talking about it. I think Chris

547
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Speaker 1: Jones said after the game that he thinks maybe that

548
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Speaker 1: should be a reviewable kind of play in that situation

549
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: you have, I thought about that. Yeah, I think getting

550
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: it right it's what's important. So you know, I always

551
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: have hated instant replay. Okay, I like the game, just

552
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: keep going. But now that we have it, let's use

553
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: it right and as much as we can and whenever

554
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: they can. You know, it's because and that's that's the

555
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: real instance. He's right, and that I think if they

556
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: would have looked at it again, they go, oh okay,

557
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: now I see what happened, you know, but maybe the

558
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: league is going to determine that it doesn't matter what happened.

559
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: You landed on the guy, and so that's the you know,

560
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: that's the that's why they call it that way. There's

561
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: there's some interpretations like that, you know, he hit the

562
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 1: guy in the head even though you weren't trying or whatever.

563
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: You know, it's penalty. So how the legal strike zone

564
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: for a pass rusher get shrunk? Is that almost impossible?

565
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: Now for them to do their job? What they can

566
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Speaker 1: do it? They can do it. It's the decision is

567
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: if the guy had a chance to make a decision,

568
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: then he needs to make it. That's the biggest thing.

569
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Speaker 1: That's that's you know, if there's an opportunity for a

570
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: guy yet he could have pulled off or could have

571
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Speaker 1: avoided you know, kind of head to decide that. That's

572
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: that's really the the deal here the below the head

573
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: and above the nes that's not a problem with our

574
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: guys can adapt to that. We've done that really well.

575
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: The throws genos are making on the move, like the

576
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: touchdown to DK or that one roll and left to

577
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: fan just is he may be shown you more there

578
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: in terms of running around. So he's done. He's been

579
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: thrown like that and it's not I mean, it's fantastic

580
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: that it's coming out in the game and it's a

581
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: huge they're huge plays. You know, he decant two of them,

582
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: you know, to great plays. Um and uh, the throw

583
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: to fan was but that that wasn't a scramble, that

584
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: was a design you know. But still that ability. Geno

585
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: can throw everything. He really, he can throw it all.

586
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: And we've always seen that and he's always had a

587
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: marvelous range of you know, to the motions and what

588
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: he can do with the football. So um, but it's

589
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: really exciting to see it happened in the game so

590
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: naturally and so you know, so comfortably for him. You

591
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: need to see again from different angles. Really appreciate it.

592
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: That versus end game. Well, we know we went pretty

593
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: crazy about it when it happened in the game, but yeah,

594
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: it was you know, that's full football. It's really cool that. No.

595
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: I remember earlier, and it might have been preseason, he

596
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: had a ball in the silence where he didn't get

597
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: his feet in bound. He's had a couple different chances

598
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: to do that for us, and you know, that was

599
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: it's good to see that he you know, he's improved there.

600
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: That one was designed that was that was a bootleg pass.

601
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: Do you hear anything from the league on Charles's penally

602
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: at all? Or yeah? I did? How different are the

603
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: uh since we're all hearing amongst friends? Okay, they sent

604
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: us a video last two weeks ago about guy's whole

605
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: you know that have a grip on the on the

606
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: a lineman, the defensive linement, and they showed an illustration

607
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 1: of a guy who had had a guy latched up

608
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: and he latched him up and as the quarterbacker was

609
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: Rogers I think you know, scrambled out, he latched up

610
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: and then he released him. And they showed, okay, so

611
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: if you you know, if you have him and you

612
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: release him, if that then it's okay if there's enough

613
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: space between that quarterback with the player that he released,

614
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: and it was our thing was almost exactly the same deal,

615
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 1: but uh, we were closer. Gin was closer to him

616
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: than the illustrations. So, um, they're trying to figure it out,

617
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: you know really, I mean, isn't easy what they're doing,

618
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: and they're trying to figure it out. So this was

619
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: maybe that was the right interpretation. I don't know that yet.

620
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: We didn't get a clear indication of was it the

621
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: distance away from the snatch and release or or did

622
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: they just think he held him? You know, So I

623
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: don't know that yet. But the league's illustration included theatric

624
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: So the defensive player. Um, that's that's become that's become

625
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: the ball game right now. You know, it's Blake Hoops,

626
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: you know. Um, they didn't talk about that the end

627
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: of the first half when you decided to go for

628
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: the big shot with Bockett. How much did the way

629
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: Smith handled that whole sequence no timeouts, knowing that he's

630
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: easy to throwing a touchdown or he's thrown it incomplete,

631
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: not to take a sack three points in the back

632
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: of all of that. How does that reassure you that

633
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: the trust that you mentioned a couple of weeks ago

634
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: taken off? Yeah? Did that? Was that a validation of yaracters? Again? Yeah? Again?

635
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Speaker 1: I mean he's already like I've already I'm all in,

636
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, and we were trying to bring him on

637
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: and figure it out how how far general could take it.

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Speaker 1: And there's no doubt you know that we don't have

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Speaker 1: any hesitation, and that's using those opportunities to trust and

640
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Speaker 1: go for it. I mean, they aren't always going to

641
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: work out like that, but um, because of the way,

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00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: we believe they're gonna work out like that more than

643
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Speaker 1: they're not, you know, because we'll go for it and

644
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: we'll cut our guys loose and count on our guys

645
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: to make their plays. Yeah, I mean that's tremendous trust

646
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: in the protection Mary slit up in the pockets so

647
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 1: beautifully to get that done. The protection was perfect, and uh,

648
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: but it's also making that throw. That's he's been around

649
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 1: those kinds of plays, he's seen it, he knows now,

650
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: and we're not restricting him at all, and we trust

651
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: that he's gonna make the right choices. And so that

652
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: gives us a sense that we can keep going for it.

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00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: You know. We're pretty efficient right now, you know, and

654
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: it's getting done, so I hope we can keep growing.

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00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: You're asking guys like Quinton and Puna and your other

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00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: interior guys to play now in the new scheme. Is

657
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: that different than how you were asking them to play

658
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: earlier in their careers? Um, some, we've done all of it.

659
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Speaker 1: We've done all of the stuff that we're doing now

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00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: we've done in the past. Um. Um, when we go

661
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Speaker 1: to the fourth three stuff, I know you're a scheme guy.

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Speaker 1: Go to the fourth three stuff, it's the same as

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Speaker 1: it's always been. Nothing changes there in the three fourth stuff. Um,

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Speaker 1: there's a little bit more, a little bit more of

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00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: us playing, you know, reading, reading the lineman a little differently,

666
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Speaker 1: but but we've always did too though that was always

667
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Speaker 1: part of our stuff. It's a little more predominant now.

668
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Speaker 1: There's no much for those guys then, no, no, they've

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Speaker 1: played this way before. Yeah, played all right. That was

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Speaker 1: head coach Pete Carroll. Coming up next on the huddle,

671
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Speaker 1: we're going to go in the trenches with Ray Roberts

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Speaker 1: at one Before then, though, let's take another look ahead

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Speaker 1: to the Arizona Cardinals. This is the huddle with Dave Wyman,

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Speaker 1: Michael Bumpus, and Stacy Ross. We have looked back at

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Speaker 1: the Saints, and we will a little bit with Ray

676
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Speaker 1: robert since Steve Rabel when they join us. But let's

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Speaker 1: take a look ahead for just one segment here at

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. The Seahawks next opponent. This one is

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Speaker 1: going to be back in Seattle Quick Broadcasting note for

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Speaker 1: you guys, the game is scheduled for a one oh

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Speaker 1: five pm kickoff. If the series between the Mariners and

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Speaker 1: Astros goes to a Game four, which would be Sunday,

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Speaker 1: that kickoff is going to be moved to two thirty. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: If there is no Game four, kickoff is still at

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Speaker 1: one oh five. So just a heads up for everyone there.

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Speaker 1: But let's look at just what's going to happen on

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Speaker 1: the field, not necessarily when things are going to kick off,

688
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Speaker 1: but it's looking like an opportunity for Seattle against an

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Speaker 1: Arizona team that is okay defensively, has struggled at times.

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Speaker 1: Most importantly, though, it's kind of been the same story

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Speaker 1: each and every year with Arizona has a not Dave. Yeah,

692
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: you know that's the thing with Kyler Murray and certainly

693
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Speaker 1: not great press for him in the off season because

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Speaker 1: you know, first he deleted his account or whatever. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know what that means. His video account, is

696
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Speaker 1: that what it was? No, that's a boomer lineam Instagram account. Well,

697
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: he deleted all this, all of the Cardinals photos from

698
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Speaker 1: his Instagram account. That takes a lot of effort that's

699
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Speaker 1: going in and deleting every single photo individually. Okay, well yeah,

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Speaker 1: and there was that, and then there was the thing

701
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Speaker 1: about him supposedly being forced to do extra work, and

702
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Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean that kind of thing. I don't

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Speaker 1: know about him. I really don't. He's an incredible talent.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I would say about him his scrambling.

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Speaker 1: Like I remember Pete a couple of years ago, and

706
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Speaker 1: we've played him, he said he had eleven yards per

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Speaker 1: a ten pounds scrambled. However, we've seen kJ Wright and

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Speaker 1: we've seen Rashim Green. He wants to go outside. I

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Speaker 1: mean that would be my note on him. That you know,

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Speaker 1: because Rashim Green made a beautiful tackle. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle. I mean he's he's kind of a twinter.

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Speaker 1: He's like two seventy but so big for it's not

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Speaker 1: like he's a two forty five pusher. Him and kJ

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Speaker 1: both stayed outside because I think Kyler Murray is a

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Speaker 1: better inside runner, but he doesn't want to go there.

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Speaker 1: So I mean that would be my note on him.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is that he just he hasn't won

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Speaker 1: with that team. I don't know what kind of a

719
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: leader he is, but it's kind of funny. They got

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Speaker 1: the little bobbleheads, Kyler Murray, ron Dale Moore, Marquise Hollywood, Brown,

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Speaker 1: number one, number two, number four, They're all like five

722
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Speaker 1: to six seven. I'm okay with a petite squad, big helmets.

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Speaker 1: I'm always impressed by the smaller players, yeah, always, you know,

724
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: love those guys so that those guys can fly. James Connors,

725
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: he's a good running back on their defense. The guy

726
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: that kind of stands out to me, that's a very

727
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Speaker 1: unusual player as Isaiah Simmons. He's not very disciplined, and

728
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Speaker 1: he'll miss tackles and he'll sometimes I see him jogging

729
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Speaker 1: quite a bit. I see a lot of that in

730
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Speaker 1: the NFL lately. Yeah, I don't know what that's like,

731
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: jogging looking around. That's one of their linebackers, by the way,

732
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Speaker 1: for anyone not super familiar, number nine, and he lines

733
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: up deep sometimes like he's a safety. And yeah, he's

734
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: an interesting player. But to me, Buddha Baker is probably

735
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Speaker 1: their best player on defense. If you know, Marcus Golden's good.

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Speaker 1: J G. Watt all that, but but I like Buddha Baker.

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Speaker 1: He makes plays everywhere. But it's just like every week,

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Speaker 1: you know, you get the you go, okay, you look

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Speaker 1: him there two and three, Yeah, you know we can

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Speaker 1: maybe beat him. Then Also when you start looking at J. J. Watt, Yeah,

741
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Speaker 1: names you recognize. Yeah, Zach Allen, who is really a

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Speaker 1: good Marcus Golden Arts is still there as he helped

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Speaker 1: him though. See yeah he played in the Philadelphia game.

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00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah last week. Now the matchup I'm looking at. Of course,

745
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: I got to go to outside to the receiver's DK

746
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: and Locke verse Murphy and Wilson locking in four games

747
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: against Arizona has thirty three receptions for four hundred eighty

748
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Speaker 1: yards and six touchdowns. Locket goes off against Arizona Cardinals

749
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Speaker 1: for some reason. Of course, Byron Murphy's over there ud standout.

750
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: He has nineteen tackles, three tackles for lost, one pass

751
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: defended at half sack, and you got Marco Wilson over there,

752
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: twenty tackles, one TfL when two passes defended. I want

753
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: to see if they can continue to grow. You know,

754
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: we've had lock it over one hundred yards last game

755
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: DK with around eighty five ninety yards. The week before

756
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Speaker 1: DCA has like one hundred and forty nine, locking around

757
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: seventy to eighty yards. We're starting to see the him

758
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: kind of blossom, right because early it was the Titans.

759
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: The Titans always get this offense going. Initially for some reason,

760
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: I am mad at him. Then the run gang is going.

761
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: And now these two guys have been consistent. So I

762
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: think that the offense are gonna have to score thirty points.

763
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: I think that's just where they are right now. And

764
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Speaker 1: the explosive plays starts with these two right here locket

765
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: in DCAC. How deadly can the offense be without Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: who doesn't return until next week. There's still a threat.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have to say as a former linebacker,

768
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Speaker 1: and I say this every week, when you have a

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Speaker 1: running quarterback, it's a nightmare, no question about it. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, you know, I have the puzzle

771
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: solved on Kyler Murray that he likes to run outside,

772
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: but he's still an incredible you look at how he

773
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: keeps things alive. And then he threw a first down

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00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: against Philadelphia where he must have scrambled for seven seconds

775
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: eight seconds, and then he was running out of bounds

776
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: and flips one too. I think it was Hollywood Brown

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00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: and for a first down where just barely gets his feet.

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00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: I mean, he's an incredible playmaker, so that that's what

779
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: makes that He's really what makes their offense goes. But

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00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: I think it's also you're going to live and die

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00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: with that guy, you know, and they've paid him a

782
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: lot of money. They're below he's below five hundred as

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Speaker 1: far as his winning percentage. And I used always compare

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Speaker 1: its first few years to Russell's. Yeah, and Russ was

785
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: like seventy seven fifty win percentage and he's fifty fifty.

786
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 1: And right now they're below five hundred as far as wins.

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Speaker 1: With Kyler Murray at quarterbacks, cask a weird existential question bump,

788
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: but kind of a big question which happens anytime we

789
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: talk about the Cardinals because I'm personally interested in it

790
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: and I'm driving, so I make rules right now. I

791
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: am fascinated by the both the relationship between Cliff and

792
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: Kyler and also kind of where the burden falls for

793
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: losses and missus because this is a guy who was

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00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: brought in to be this young kind of like we've

795
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: got our own version of Sean McVay, right, and he's

796
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: been it feels like perpetually on the hot seat for

797
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: a couple of years because this team has had late

798
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: season collapses, They've not been successful in the postseason. Kyler

799
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: Murray is still looking for success in the postseason, and

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00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: yet they remain together, and it feels like every year

801
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: you're kind of in the same story. Is it Kyler

802
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: not fulfilling expectations or is it Cliff not taking advantage

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00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: of Kyler. I think you can never just put the

804
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: blame on one person, especially in football, such a team sport.

805
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: You got like twenty seven coaches, you got three man roster,

806
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: you got fourteen and sixteen guys on a practice squad

807
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: like it's a big operation. Yeah, but the guys who

808
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: get paid the most, the guys who grab mostly attention

809
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: of the guys that you are going to lean on

810
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: when it comes to blame. And I think it's a mix.

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Speaker 1: I think that there are times where I crushed. I

812
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: question m Kingsbury play call, I go what is he thinking? There?

813
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: There are times why I questioned Kyler Murray's decision making.

814
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: So when your offensive coordinator is your head coach and

815
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: he drafts, he brings in Kyler Murray because he can

816
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: run his offense. I think the bulk of the blame

817
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: is naturally gonna lie on them. But you also look

818
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: at Kingsbury's record as a coach. He's got like three

819
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: winning seasons or something like that, and it's not been stellar.

820
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: Do you guys remember the end of year record that

821
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: was tweeted out last year? It went back to when

822
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: he was at Texas Tech. It's unbelievable how he finished

823
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: his seasons, like I think it was one and four,

824
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: and how he finished the seasons with the quarterback talent

825
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: that he's had because he's had Mahomes, He's out all

826
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: these other guys and it's it's it's very strange. I

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00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: just got you know, I got an email. For whatever

828
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: it's worth, it was Vegas odds on coaches most likely

829
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: to get fired. Kingsbury was the favorite. So you know,

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00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if you And that's a

831
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: difficult decision for your owner. And like, is it is

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00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: it the because the Seahawks went through this, is it

833
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: the coach or is it the quarterback? You know? And

834
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: you know, and I just think, you know, it's very rare.

835
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: There's only thirty two head coaches in the in the

836
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: world and maybe half of them are not going to

837
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: be employed in the next two or three years. And

838
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: I'll just say this, Pete Carroll gets the best out

839
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: of his players, you know, And I don't I don't

840
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: care what anybody says about Pete. And you know, and

841
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: I'll say this, players that leave here don't tend to

842
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: get better. You know. You look at I think Scherm

843
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: got a Pro Bowl in San Francisco, you know. So

844
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Speaker 1: it's not like all of it, but like for the

845
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: most part, you know, and you see that Ross is

846
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: kind of going through a little bit of a struggle

847
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: there endeavor and you've seen it with other guys. Bruce

848
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: Servants left absolutely, So yeah, it's it's hard to be

849
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: a head coach, is more my point than anything. It's

850
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: it's just, you know, you have to have that knack

851
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: of getting the best out of your players. That's the

852
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: best coaching job you can do. These guys are all talented,

853
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: but the best thing you can do is get and

854
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: give guys a chance like Marshawn Lynch. You know, nobody

855
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: wanted to touch Marshawn Lance and Pete brought him in here.

856
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: So you know, this bomp man. I mean that that's

857
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: the most valuable asset you can have as a head coach. Well,

858
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: Pete's got a heck of a challenge in this one,

859
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: which is trying to figure out how to turn this

860
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: defense around because they cannot win this season. They cannot

861
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: find success given up as many points per game as

862
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: they are. So what we're gonna do in the final

863
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: hour of the huddle is bring on a lot of

864
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: our favorite voices. Ray Roberts is going to join us,

865
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: Steve Rabel is going to join us. We're going to

866
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: have an opponent preview heading down to Phoenix for that one,

867
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: and then John Boyle is going to join us for

868
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: some final thoughts. It's all coming your way next on

869
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: the huddle. This is the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus,

870
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: and Stacy Ross. We're gonna take a quick look back

871
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: at New Orleans, talk about what we learned, and then

872
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: look ahead to the Arizona Cardinals. Going in the trenches

873
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: now with Ray Roberts and Ray I gotta say I

874
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: have been so far this season impressed with the offensive

875
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: line play, and I know that's where we start a

876
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: lot with you, But they're gonna have their work cut

877
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: out for them now without Rashad Penny, How does that

878
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: change what the guys up front need to do. Yeah,

879
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it changes a whole lot, you know.

880
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: You know, in college, Kenneth Walker was one of the

881
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: top yards out of contact runners in the country. So

882
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: even though he's not you know, ton and thirty pounds

883
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: like like Rashad Penny, he still runs with power and

884
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: shiftiness and quickness and explosion. So as it relates to

885
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: what's happening up front, nothing really changes. And uh, and

886
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: they'll be quite honest with you. Just watching the film, man,

887
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: they're doing the spectacular job blocking up front. Like I

888
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: think the two guards, Damian Lewis and Gabe Jackson are

889
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: starting to round back into what I thought they could be.

890
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: Charles Cross has planned with a little bit more physicality

891
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: than Abe Lucas, just doing what Abe does and so

892
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 1: and then with the play calling, man, they I didn't

893
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: even notice as a couple of plays they ran against

894
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: the New Orleans where Cross had moved over to the

895
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: right side and was right beside Abe Lucas when they

896
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: ran to play. So they're doing like a a lot

897
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: of really cool things to help the offensive line, and

898
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 1: so I think that'll be I think they'll be fine.

899
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: It'll just be a matter of how many reps can

900
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: Ken Kenneth Walker take and how you split those up

901
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: with the guys that they have in the back till

902
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: you know. That's what I was gonna ask you. And

903
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: we've seen DJ Dallas have two really good preseasons. I

904
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: believe he has one or two carries this year with

905
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: ken Walker being that number one running back right now,

906
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: how would you distribute the carriages between the two? Would

907
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: you just insert ken Walker now euro shot Penny you

908
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: get fifteen to eighteen, and in DJ Dallas is now

909
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker with like forty six. Absolutely, because the thing

910
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: I like about um uh dj is that he when

911
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: he comes in, when he gets the ball, there's always

912
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: something positive that happens. So I could even see, you know,

913
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: maybe Kenneth Walker having like sixteen eighteen carries and and

914
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: DJ Dallas getting ten or twelve carries, you know, because

915
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: you may just be getting the ball to him in

916
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: different situations too, like maybe it's uh I don't think

917
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: uh Dallas will be doing the fly sweep stuff, but

918
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: you could use them on some screens you know, getting

919
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: them the ball out in space, you know, UH, use

920
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: them in other ways like that to get him the ball.

921
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: And then the same with UH. With Kenneth Walker, I

922
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: think he brings a different dynamic to the backfield because

923
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: Richard Penney didn't run his mini screens, wasn't involved in

924
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: the pass game. But I think Ken Kenneth Walker candy

925
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: and so I think he can bring a little different

926
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: dynamic to the to the backfield that way. Really, I

927
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: want to talk about Abraham Lucas. So he gave up

928
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: a sack to Cameron Jordan. Cameron Jordan, now he had

929
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 1: two sacks in the game. He's one hundred and ten

930
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: and a half sacks of all the active players. He's

931
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: number two. Von Miller's number one with one and eighteen

932
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty. And also I thought that, you know,

933
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: that ball should have come out by then. I thought

934
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: he blocked him for a good long time. But the

935
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: play I saw he was blocked Davenport. Davenport sort of

936
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: lowered his and tried to rush kind of under him

937
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: and get under him, and then he like kind of

938
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 1: split his feet further apart and backed up and got

939
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: his body down and just kind of rooted him back

940
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: up out of it. I was so impressed by that.

941
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he's really good with his hands, but I

942
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: mean just that little battle of you know, trying to

943
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: get the leverage there was awesome to watch. And you know,

944
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport was the first round draft choice, and you

945
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: know he's playing pretty well. So I was just very

946
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: impressed by him. Tell us a little bit. Yeah, I

947
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: watched that play probably like fifteen times a days because

948
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: I was just like it was. It was just so impressive, Like,

949
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: uh like when you're getting bullrushed. We used to call

950
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: it when we when Howard Mudd was an offensive line coach,

951
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: we would we would call it hop hopping chop. So

952
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: you'd hop like two quick times. You're not trying to

953
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: hop like you're trying to do a vertical, but you're

954
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,959
Speaker 1: just trying to in a way get your the lawyer

955
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: your center of gravity. And then we would chop guys.

956
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: Well then nowadays they don't like you doing all the chopping,

957
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: but essentially that's what he did. He took like one hop,

958
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: kind of spread his feet, got his center of gravity down,

959
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: and then this dude is a powerful man, like he's

960
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: just a strong dude, the way he just kind of

961
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: anchored and then just basically like inclined bench presses, dude

962
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: like back, you know. Uh, and and stopped him. And

963
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: I was just like, holy crap, like how did he

964
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: do that? And so just I just watched it several

965
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: times and was really impressed by just the power of him.

966
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: And that was something I noticed, uh in the preseason,

967
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: just come into practice. I remember uh watching him do

968
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: individual drills and another offensive lineman's holding the bag and

969
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: he was like punching the bag and I was singing

970
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: to myself like, man, I wouldn't want to hold the

971
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: bag with that dude hunting because he has heavy hands.

972
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: You know, I should be like, man, like we're in practice,

973
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: like chill out a little bit. But that's just who

974
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: he is. Man. He's a bit strong dude. He did

975
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: some He does great stuff in the running game. He

976
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: hardly ever loses leverage and uh, and then even on

977
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: the sack that Cam Jordan had, Cam Jordan did a

978
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: great job of knocking his hands down, but then he

979
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: did a great job of getting his hands back on

980
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: him and pressing him up. But I think Gino just

981
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: held the ball a little bit or he could have

982
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: slid to the left a little bit to help him

983
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: out a little bit. But uh, yeah, that that was

984
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm super impressed with Abe Lucas and I think I've

985
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: probably said it a million times, but just great value

986
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: in that dude, and he brings an attitude to the

987
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: offensive line, and I think they were missing for that reason,

988
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: along with the performance of Tricke Wollen and obviously Gino

989
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: Smith as a whole. With the offense, is there a

990
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: sense of frustration knowing that if this defense wasn't struggling

991
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: as much as they were, the Seahawks could really be

992
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: surprising people. Yeah. Absolutely, I think those tackles, like we

993
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: said on Sunday, they're not getting a whole lot of

994
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: help either, Like there's been once or twice where they've

995
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: put a tight end over there to help, but then

996
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: they prove that they can do it on their own.

997
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: And then Gino obviously is just planning better than anybody

998
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: had to imagine other than him. But when I when

999
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: I watched the defense, uh, you know, we talked about

1000
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: this last week when I didn't warn you guys about

1001
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: the dump button, but just watch it again. When I

1002
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: watching this game, when you run in like those three

1003
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: four type of concepts, you're the defensive line has to

1004
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: read blocks a lot, and so that means that you're

1005
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: not really attacking the offensive line until you can kind

1006
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: of see what they're doing, and then you have to

1007
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: read it and react to it. And then you couple

1008
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: that was they're probably lined up about a yard off

1009
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: the ball so that they can so they can read

1010
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: and react. And what's to me, what I see is

1011
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: that because of that, at the point of attack, the

1012
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: offensive line, the opposing team's offensive line, they're getting like

1013
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: a yard and a half head start running at you,

1014
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: and then at the point of attack they have a

1015
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: help on a helmet and then and then the running

1016
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: back can fall for four or five yards. And so

1017
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: when that happens, you have to have someone that can

1018
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: consistently defeat the one on one blocks because the double

1019
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: teams are the double teams are kind of you know,

1020
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: you're not going to consistently beat double teams unless you're

1021
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. But they need someone that can consistently defeat

1022
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: the one on one blocks because the first thing that

1023
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: that slows down a running game is that the defensive

1024
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: line has to get their heels on the offensive line

1025
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: side of the line of scrimmage, because if it happens

1026
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: the other way, even if it's a stalemate, the win

1027
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: normally goes to the offensive line, and we don't have

1028
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: anyone consistently plan on the other side of the ball.

1029
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: And uh and to me, that is kind of where

1030
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: the run game like that. You know, I've been really

1031
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: critical of the linebackers, but it's kind of hard to

1032
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: play and days can attest it is. It's hard to

1033
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: play linebacker when the when the when the defensive tackle

1034
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: was sitting in your lap, like, you can't be aggressive.

1035
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: Now you're just filling your way around and trying to

1036
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: grab on to a guy to make a tackle. You

1037
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: can't ackle with force, you can't attack the line of scrimmage,

1038
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: and those those that's what I see happening in the

1039
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: running game, all right. He is Ray Roberts. He joins

1040
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: us every single week for the Huddle. Today's a special

1041
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: Wednesday edition. Normally it is Thursday from noon to two.

1042
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: You can also hear I'm on the pregame show hosted

1043
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: by Michael Bumpus. These two guys will be on air

1044
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: before and after the game for a ton of analysis. Ray,

1045
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: thanks so much for taking the time. Well, thanks for

1046
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: having you guys have a good one too. It is

1047
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: exactly right during that whole thing, that's right, yea, exactly yes, yeah,

1048
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: I mean you don't get them more attack in the

1049
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. Yeah, all of those things. Man. Yeah,

1050
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: let's continue this conversation a little bit. Plus, we got

1051
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: to talk about a potential new addition to the Seahawks

1052
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: next with Steve Rabel. This is the huddle with Dave Wyman,

1053
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: Michael Bumpus, and Stace. You're asked, we are lucky enough

1054
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: to be joined in studio this time. I know I'm

1055
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: interrupting you guys. You guys have all Sunday to talk.

1056
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 1: We're having a nice conversation. You have hours and hours

1057
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: and hours. I mean you could do the story in

1058
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: the broadcast. Who talk like three hours? Then we get

1059
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: on the plane. We talked for like two hours. The

1060
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: plane trip there, we talked for a couple hours. Then

1061
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: we had a drink the other night. I mean, geez,

1062
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: you think I'd be sick of him, and instead you

1063
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: guys can't stop. What are you even talking about? I

1064
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: think what startled me so much? I'm used to having

1065
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: several people around going ten seconds, five seconds, you just

1066
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: started talking. You kind of started, well, I didn't want

1067
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: to be rude. I have just polite to a fault,

1068
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: so I wanted to let you guys finish, and I

1069
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: was gonna sit here and buy you some time by saying,

1070
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: we are so honored to be joined here by the

1071
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel. Rabes, you have one

1072
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: of my all time favorite calls, which is where you

1073
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: actually have a call about Bruce servant, but then react

1074
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: to Bruce, which is everyone's favorite. I mean, they played

1075
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: all the time on our airwaves and people love it. No,

1076
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: exactly exactly Bruce. No. Bruce now reportedly back in Seattle

1077
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: signing to the practice squad. How do you feel about it? Well,

1078
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: as long as he doesn't hit me because of that call,

1079
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: I think it great. You know, he's always been you know,

1080
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: when he first got here, everybody thought, well, he's a

1081
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: little bit of a tweeners a defensive end. Is he

1082
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: an outside linebacker? And in this I think in this

1083
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: format and he did it in Chicago last year, I

1084
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: think he I think he can fit in very well.

1085
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: Pete says he's in great shape. His leg is healed

1086
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: from that aclu. And he was always such a competitive guy,

1087
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: as you heard me say when he kind of got

1088
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: into it with some guys there on the sidelines. I'm

1089
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: just I think it's a great addition because he's not

1090
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: a coach, but he will be instructing by his very

1091
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: nature and by his example on the field and how

1092
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: the guys see him, not just practice, but how he'll

1093
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: play and the plays that he'll make. I think he'll

1094
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 1: be a great example for those young guys. It's funny

1095
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: to me that he was the most natural, like going

1096
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: from defensive end the linebacker that I've ever seen. Yea

1097
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: like the progressions and he knew where to drop. He

1098
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: could not care less about He got i think two

1099
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,479
Speaker 1: pick sixes in one year, and he is he doesn't

1100
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: care about that. He just wants sacks, right. Yeah, it's

1101
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: funny to me. He's like, it's like he doesn't even

1102
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: like the thing that he's probably best at. Right well,

1103
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: and you know, if you're in that position, if you

1104
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: play the position that he does, when it comes time

1105
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: to sit down with the GM or your agent is

1106
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: going to sit down with the GM after the fact

1107
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: and you're looking at either a new contract or extending

1108
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: or whatever. That's the number. I mean there there are

1109
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: a lot of other parameters for a defensive flare. Obviously,

1110
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: they always say sacks, get your paid, There you go,

1111
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: there you go. You know. If you're a receiver, it's

1112
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: it's catches. It's not how many special teams plays did

1113
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: you make. It's it's receptions. It's touchdown receptions. It's the availability.

1114
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: Were you out there for you know, an extended period

1115
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: of time or were you always in the tub? And

1116
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: those are the kinds of things that get you out

1117
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: of the league in a hurry if you're if you're

1118
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: not out there playing race we know or shop. Penny's

1119
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: out for the season. Unfortunately, see that as soon as

1120
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: he wouldn't put pressure on his leg and he scooned

1121
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: to the sideline. You knew it was pretty bad. Yeah,

1122
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: so prayers up to Penn him. But now the young

1123
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: man Ken Walker gets an opportunity to kind of show

1124
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: what he can do. We saw, you know, checking to

1125
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: a run he breaks it off for sixty nine yards.

1126
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: I asked Ray this question. I'm interested with your thoughts

1127
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: to what is he just your number one guy now?

1128
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: Does he get the bulk of the carriages or do

1129
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: you still ease him into this game slowly? I think

1130
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: you have to spell him some, especially considering that Pete

1131
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: and Shane want to run the football. You know, you

1132
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: want to at least have some semblance of balance there.

1133
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: You don't want to get too overextended. You're you're going

1134
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: to end up throwing the ball a lot if you

1135
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: get behind anyway, and that's gonna take that's gonna take

1136
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: him out of the out of the game. Although he's

1137
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: a pretty good receiver, Ken Walker is too on those

1138
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: little passes coming out of the back of your little

1139
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: flare routes whatever. But DJ right now, DJ Dallas seems

1140
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: to have that position locked up with the injury to

1141
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: Travis Homer, so I think they'll continue to spell him

1142
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think we'll see I think we'll

1143
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: see DJ in there some. You know, they got to

1144
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: come of other running backs, practice squad guys that they

1145
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: could elevate. They just signed a new kid, Jones. I

1146
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: believe Tony Jones played in Notre Dame, so you know

1147
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: he's played in a big program. He understands that kind

1148
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: of pressure. I expect to see him get maybe the

1149
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: majority of the carries right now, but you have to

1150
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: you have to have a couple of three guys. Yeah,

1151
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: what would you say about the defense rds? We were

1152
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: talking about this, like, you know, and the example I

1153
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: gave was Poona Ford and Cody Barton didn't suddenly become

1154
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: bad players, and so then it's like, either they're just

1155
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: not getting the scheme just yet, or what does it

1156
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: look like to you? Do you when you're watching Does

1157
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: it look like they're confused or they're thinking too much

1158
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: or it's just not natural yet for them? Because we

1159
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: know Poona is a good player, we know Cody, we

1160
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: know Quandrey Dix is a fantastic player, and they've all

1161
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: three I would say that so much. Well, Cody struggled

1162
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: in one game, but you know, it's more that they're

1163
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: just not in you know, they're just not making plays

1164
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: right right. Well, it's sort of it's sort of like,

1165
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: you know, it's like a band. I mean really when

1166
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: you think about it. We just got done with the

1167
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: press conferences with the guys and everybody after a while.

1168
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how we got on the subject, but

1169
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: somebody asked Abe Lucas about playing guitar, and so they

1170
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: were talking about music and what he likes. And one

1171
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: of the things that you have to have when you

1172
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: have a band, if you're any good at all, is

1173
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 1: you have to be you all have to have rhythm,

1174
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: You have to be in that same tempo. You have

1175
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: to understand what the guy, the guitar lead guitar player

1176
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 1: is going to do as opposed to the bass player

1177
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 1: and the drummer, which is what I was. And that's

1178
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: kind of what we haven't seen early on in the defense.

1179
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: There's not been that rhythm there that everybody is where

1180
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be. You know, they're not an old

1181
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: hitting that same note. And but it's getting better. I

1182
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: think we talked about it during the game the other

1183
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: day in New Orleans. It looked to me almost light

1184
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: years as to how much improved the two inside backers

1185
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: were playing where they're both great football players, but playing

1186
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: within the parameters of that defense, how it's designed. What

1187
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: are their responsibilities I thought they were. I thought they

1188
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: just did. You did great, Cody, And you know, we

1189
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 1: know Brooksie is he's always uh, you know, playing well.

1190
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 1: But those are the kinds of things you mentioned. Poona

1191
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: Ford Poona's playing in a different position. Remember you guys

1192
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: talked about Damian Lewis moving from one side to the

1193
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 1: other guard and how that kind of affects you, whether

1194
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: you say it does or not. Puna only moved about

1195
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: four feet. But to go from the guy over the

1196
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: nose to a defensive tackle, it's I'm guessing I'm not

1197
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: a defensive player, nor would I ever attempt to be,

1198
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: but I'm guessing that's a that's a big change for

1199
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: that young man now. Suddenly instead of just having this

1200
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: guy in front of you and you're trying to gather

1201
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,959
Speaker 1: up guards as you go, now you've got guys coming

1202
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: from different angles and trapping and all those other things

1203
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: that you have to be aware of. But you're right,

1204
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: he's not a worst football player, but he's in a

1205
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: different kind of arrangement right now, and they all have

1206
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: to get in sync, they all have to get in

1207
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: rhythm before this this thing really comes together, I think defensively,

1208
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: but I think they're getting there. Do you think the

1209
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: defense will have a chance here against Arizona to get

1210
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 1: some improvement done? Boy? This is a This is a

1211
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: tough one to try to get if for no other

1212
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: reason than you've got that wildcard number one at quarterback.

1213
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: I mean, he just makes everybody look like they're going

1214
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: slow and they're in the wrong position. He throws from

1215
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: every platform. You know, I'm surprised he's not throwing both

1216
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: right and left handed. But he also throws on the run,

1217
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: on the move, and he is so quick and he's

1218
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: such a darter. You know, he just makes it life

1219
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: real difficult. That's one of the things I'll ask Pete

1220
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: for our pregame interview when we do that at the

1221
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: end of the week, and that is you know, for

1222
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: those all these young guys that are on this defense,

1223
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,479
Speaker 1: especially these guys on the edges who were young guys,

1224
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: they've not seen an athlete like this. Maybe they played

1225
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: against some guys in college who were pretty good. But

1226
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: this offense is built around Kyler Murray and what he

1227
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: can do, and all he needs to do, all he

1228
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: needs is a step and he's down that sidelines, or

1229
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: all he needs is one little step outside and that

1230
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: ball comes out to Zach Ertz for a big game.

1231
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: So this is a difficult team because they are so

1232
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: much built around the improvisation of what Kyler Murray can do.

1233
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: All right, he is Steve Rabel, the voice of the Seahawks,

1234
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: joins us every single week for the huddle, and you

1235
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: can hear him, of course, on the call for this

1236
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: game alongside day Wyman. You guys will have much time

1237
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: to finish up your conversation, so pill be pleased to know.

1238
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Rapes. The floor manager is counting us

1239
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 1: down now in three, two, one, Okay, mister Rabel, you're free.

1240
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: Thank you? All right. I can see Bumpus looking at

1241
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: some Cardinals tape here. So we'll be joined by John

1242
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: Boyle next, and the four of us will take a

1243
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: look ahead at this upcoming Week six matchup and figure

1244
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: out some keys to the game that's next. Now we

1245
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: are joined by Josh Wine for us at ESPN dot com. Josh,

1246
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: how are you doing today, ma'am? I'm great, Thanks for

1247
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: having me. You know, another day, another dollar. This week

1248
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: we take on the Arizona Cardinals. I don't know what

1249
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: to feel about that team right now. Man, what are

1250
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: the vibes with this offense, with his defense Kyler Murray Kingsbury?

1251
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: Just what's the overall filling of the Cardinals today? I mean,

1252
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: you talk about another day, another dollars, like another day,

1253
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: another vibe with this team, right like it it shifts

1254
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: as a wind blows. Really, you know, it depends on

1255
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: where they're playing, It depends on who they're playing, It

1256
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: demends on who's playing. Like there's so many factors that

1257
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: have gotten into this season so far, but basically, this

1258
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: team can't win at home, and they can't score early

1259
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: in games where I think they're still the only team

1260
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: in the league that hasn't scored in the first quarter

1261
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: this year. And you know, by time they get going,

1262
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: it started usually the second half, and then Kyler Murray

1263
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: turns on the Jets. You know, he looks like a

1264
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: human video game out there, and he starts to making

1265
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: plays happen, puts the team on shoulders, and all of

1266
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: a sudden boom, they're back in games late in late

1267
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: in the third, three and fourth quarters. But it's really

1268
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,919
Speaker 1: basically like nobody knows what to expect with this team,

1269
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: and it's they've been fortunate because they play teams that

1270
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: can't put them away early. Those teams that can't put

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00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: them ay early do. So this week's gonna be another

1272
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: one of those kind of situations where we don't know

1273
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: what what's gonna happen, Like, are the Seats gonna be

1274
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: able to get up big early and hold onto that lead?

1275
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: Because what happened in Vegas in a week two where

1276
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: the Raiders got up huge, but then the Interest team

1277
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: get foot off the pedal, they like step on the brake,

1278
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: and that's let the Cardinals come back. So to beat

1279
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: this team, teams need to be able to get on

1280
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: them early and just keep on them. And I don't

1281
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: know how many teams can do that. We feel your

1282
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: pain over here in Seattle. Sometimes we don't know what

1283
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna get, but we know we got to go

1284
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: out there and compete. Man. And I look at Kyler

1285
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,439
Speaker 1: Murray and from the outside looking in, I wouldn't wonder

1286
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: about his body language and his leadership. And maybe that's

1287
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: just us. We're not in the building with this guy.

1288
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: We don't cover the team. Am I Am I reading

1289
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: that correctly? Are there some questions with his his leadership

1290
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: and the language? Yeah, there's always been right, And I

1291
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: don't know if it's so much the leadership aspect of it.

1292
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: I think that he's not your role rock quarterback, right,

1293
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: He's not the guy who's going to always be super

1294
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: positive all the time because he knows his teammates are

1295
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: looking at him, He's going to lead by example and

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01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: by doing that, he'll put the team on his back

1297
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: and be like, guys, I told you we're still in

1298
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: That's that type of thing. Now. The body language has

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01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: always been an issue, right, Like like Cliff Kingsbury from

1300
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,959
Speaker 1: basically day one has told us the media that he's

1301
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: tried showing Kyler videos of Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson and

1302
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and how they handle themselves on the field

1303
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: because we don't really see them throwing their hands up,

1304
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: throwing their head back. Like Kyler is a very emotional

1305
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: player on the field. He's still four years into this.

1306
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: He's still trying to get used to and comprehending process

1307
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: of losing because he didn't do a lot of that.

1308
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's still coming easy to I

1309
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: think it ever comes easy to anybody. But I think

1310
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: it's he's he's trying to get used to that, and

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01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of this, right And the

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01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: other part of it is he has, you know, expectations,

1313
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: as every quarterback does, where he wants his player who's

1314
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: teammates to be in certain positions. But at the same time,

1315
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: not all the mistakes are the play or his teammates fault. Right,

1316
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes he makes the bad play, and I think that

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01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: that that what people see is kind of what what

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01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: what the Cardinals are? God right, it's a guy who's

1319
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: very emotional, who his body language I think probably does

1320
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: need to improve. And I don't think anyone inside that

1321
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: build they would disagree with that. It's all to me.

1322
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: The big question is how does his teammates react to that?

1323
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: And publicly they say they're they're okay, Hey, Josh. I

1324
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: feel like all eyes are always on the Cardinals offense,

1325
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: whether it's because of Cliff and Kyler or because of

1326
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: Hopkins suspension, whatever it is. I have no idea how

1327
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: their defense has been doing. I mean, fill me in here.

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01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: How are they looking this year? They're getting better, right,

1329
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: They've they've progressed? Us are they offense has throughout the season?

1330
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: They have their their issues, right, Their cornerbacks have been

1331
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: a major liability except for Byron Murphy. You guys are

1332
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: very familiar with up there um and then they're um

1333
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: trying to think that their defense are fronts very good.

1334
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: Their pass rush is another issue. They have the fear

1335
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: stacks in the league. They're not They're getting to the quarterback,

1336
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: they're just not getting him down. And to me, that's

1337
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: a Derek result of not bringing back Chandler Jones who

1338
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: they let walking free agency. Have Marcus Golden on one side,

1339
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: he's getting a ton of attention from offensive lines. The

1340
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: other side of that, it's the rotating door between you know,

1341
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: Divine Canard and Scar Deck and some other guys, and

1342
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: they're just not producing. But the interior of the defensive

1343
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: line is very good. Inside linebackers are solid. This team

1344
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: is able to get a lot of pressure on on

1345
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: offenses and that have to really save this team so far.

1346
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: Right they've in Carolina, they had I think five passes

1347
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: that were batted down. They you know, a couple of

1348
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: pigs they're able to get. They love to blitz, which

1349
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: is advanced Joseph Staple. They love to bring that pressure

1350
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: and from there they kind of forced mistakes to happen.

1351
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: And that's been kind of where this team has been.

1352
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: May've been carrying this team as far as the offense

1353
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: has kind of found themselves. Hey, Josh, I look at

1354
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: this offense and in total yards, you got to rank

1355
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: fifteen through fifty two per game. But then I look

1356
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: at the roster and I look at obviously the absence

1357
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: of Hopkins, So you feel like something's going to happen

1358
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: there once he gets back. But Marky's Brown, I mean,

1359
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: he's stepped up in a big way so far. Thirty

1360
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: eight receptions, four in in seventeen yards, three touchdowns, had

1361
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,959
Speaker 1: a beautiful run last week. It was awesome to watch

1362
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: a J. Green has kind of been a ghost right

1363
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: miss a game because of an injury. Only eight receptions

1364
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: forty nine yards. Do you feel like there is a

1365
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: next step that this offense can't take? Because on paper,

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01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys look like there's a lot of

1367
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: potential there. So your fantasy team on paper, right, they

1368
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: have all the names, it's but they're not producing on

1369
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: the field. I mean every time I look at this team,

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01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: I get flashbacks to like the early two thousand Lakers

1371
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: with Karl Malone and Gary Payton and all these dudes

1372
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: that just had all these big names but didn't do anything.

1373
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how I see this team right now.

1374
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: When DeAndre Hopkins gets back, I think that'll be the

1375
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: biggest that'll answer a lot of questions because what he

1376
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: does to an offense is pretty impressive, right He forces

1377
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: the defensive coverages to roll his way in. What Cliff

1378
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: King's very likes to do smartly is kind of make

1379
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: him that isolated receiver to one side of Tyler and

1380
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: he lets you know, he two receivers or trips or

1381
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: whatever it is to the other side. That's why it

1382
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: opens up the field if the defenses continue to do that.

1383
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: When you have a guy like Hollywood Brown, I mean,

1384
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: AJ Green's going to be there on occasion, Rondale Moore,

1385
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: zach Ertz, they have a lot of weapons that can

1386
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: really take advantage of an open field because right now

1387
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: defense doesn't have to really they can double a Hollywood Brown,

1388
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: but there's really no one else the Cardinals can go to.

1389
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: If you double or triple or bracket or whatever you

1390
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: want to do with DeAndre Hopkins, that opens up the

1391
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: field for Hollywood Hollywood Brown, and that's pretty dangerous, you know.

1392
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: And then the run game is going to be an

1393
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: issue this week. They were down three running backs. Last week,

1394
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: they had one guy left from most of the second half,

1395
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: and I don't know if they're going to be how

1396
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: healthy they're going to be going into this year or

1397
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: going to this week. They are bringing some guys in,

1398
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna sign some guys, But from that, from that

1399
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: four man rotation, I just I don't know. I think

1400
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: you're only gonna have one, which is you know, Benjamin.

1401
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: But other than that, I mean, this offense is there's

1402
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: a lot of potential there. I just don't know if

1403
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: they're going to realize that potential at any point in

1404
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: this season. Josh, I gotta be really honest. I think

1405
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: hearing I don't know how the run is going to

1406
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: be this week. They're pretty banged up. Has Seahawks fans

1407
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: going oh because the defense has been giving up roughly

1408
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: five hundred rushing yards per game. I mean, that's just

1409
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: kind of like a statue, like a general kind of

1410
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: shot in the dark, but it's probably close to that,

1411
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if out in Arizona they see that

1412
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: as an opportunity or if I guess what I'm asking is,

1413
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: let's say Seattle is able to cut down keep it

1414
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: to under one hundred rushing yards, would it say anything

1415
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: about the Seahawks defense or is Arizona really in trouble there?

1416
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: I think Arizone's really in trouble. I mean they James

1417
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: Connor is dealing some rib injuries, GARYL. Williams, Jonathan Ward.

1418
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: So like three your top four running backs from down,

1419
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: you're left with one Emio Benjamin who's super fast, super quick.

1420
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he could care up a defense by himself.

1421
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: But if they can keep the Cardinals under one hundred

1422
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: rushing yards, it will be impressive, just because I think

1423
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: EOL can do that. But at the same time, you're

1424
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: down your top three backs. Now, the other part of

1425
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: this is the Cardinals running game really has had a

1426
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: chance to get going because they've hardly had a lead

1427
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: this year. Right, They've been playing from behind so much.

1428
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: He can't really run the ball. So if if if

1429
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: the Seahawks can get out to a lead, enforce the

1430
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: Cardinals to play from behind, mind, which means that's a

1431
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: third of all and they can't run I do, I mean,

1432
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: that'll be even more impressive for the Seahawks. Fames right,

1433
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: that's exactly right, all right. He is ESPN's Josh Wine

1434
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: Fist favorite of the show, joining us on the huddle

1435
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: today for an opponent preview. Josh, thanks so much, Yeah,

1436
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: thank you having me all right. That was a look

1437
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: at the opponent this week with Josh Winefizz of ESPN

1438
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: Don't Go Anywhere. John Boyle joins us next for a

1439
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: look at this team and some final thoughts. This is

1440
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: the Huddle with Dave Winman, Michael Bumpus, and Stacy Ross

1441
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: joining us to wrap this show up, just as he

1442
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: does every single normally Thursday, today, Wednesday, given the Mariners

1443
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,439
Speaker 1: playoff game tomorrow, it is John Boyle off Seahawks dot Com. John,

1444
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: We've already talked about the addition of Bruce urvn with

1445
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: with Steve Rabel a bit and kind of what he

1446
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: could potentially bring to this defense. I wanted to like

1447
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: skip over that to get started. Normally I had asked

1448
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: you about a new player and what's going on here,

1449
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: But instead I'm going to ask kind of what you've

1450
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: been you know, hearing from from this team this weekend,

1451
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: talking about in terms of the defense and whether that

1452
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: three four scheme is a big part of it or

1453
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: they're making any changes. You know, I don't think we're

1454
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: going to see anything drastic change. I just don't think

1455
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: it's you know, Dave could speak to this morning me,

1456
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: but I just don't think it's that realistic to either

1457
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: overhaul scheme or you know, the roster totally. So there,

1458
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, you make fine tuning things where you can.

1459
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: You you know, you make the little roster moves here

1460
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: and there, you bring in a brewserver and who you

1461
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: hope add some depths and experience and leadership to the group.

1462
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's more just about cleaning up some of

1463
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: these pretty egregious mistakes we're saying, seeing where look, if

1464
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: you're not giving up multiple fifty yard plays a game,

1465
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: and on top of that, penalty is on third down

1466
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: that are staying drives. The numbers may not be great,

1467
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: you might not be holding teams to ten to twelve points,

1468
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: but you're putting yourself in position to win games. So

1469
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: I think for me right now, it's just clean up

1470
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: the big mistakes. First, turn that fifty yard run into Okay,

1471
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 1: he gets first down, he gets fifteen yards. It's not great,

1472
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: but you still live to fight another day. Let's flip

1473
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: the five. So that's really the theme of the show

1474
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 1: that I'm going with, Flip the five. Sure, what has

1475
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 1: Bruce Urban been up to? Yeah, just you know, we

1476
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: haven't talked to him yet, but I think we're gonna

1477
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: hear from Bruce tomorrow. But I think, you know, he

1478
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: did play a little bit and last year with the Bears.

1479
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 1: I think he's just probably been working out, stay in shape,

1480
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: I'd imagine, you know. I don't want to speak for

1481
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: the guy, but I got to think at this point

1482
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: in his career, when he's unsigned at this time of year,

1483
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 1: year also weighing the decision, and you know, how much

1484
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: longer do I want to keep fighting through this and

1485
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: fighting for a chance versus calling into a career. He

1486
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: has had a very solid career. But it's cool to

1487
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 1: see him back. I mean, he's such a great dude

1488
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: in the locker room and just a fun guy to

1489
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: be around. So I'm really excited to see, you know,

1490
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: hopefully he can have a little juice left and help

1491
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: both of that defense a little. I thought Trery Brown

1492
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 1: was going to be one of the one of the

1493
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: starters at corner. Just a little update on him anything,

1494
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, But also what about the way these young

1495
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: guys playing. Man, it's a Kobe Bryant. I mean, I

1496
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 1: think all of the penalties that they got and it

1497
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: pass interference him and Threequel and starting to starting to

1498
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: pay off. Yeah, you know, the Trey first. I don't

1499
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: think we've heard from Pete on him. He was asking, hm,

1500
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: I want to say two weeks ago, and it was

1501
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, not like he's gonna be back any day,

1502
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: but he's getting closer. He's running full speed now, so

1503
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think he's really close to be

1504
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: in game ready, but we could see him return to

1505
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: practice sooner or later, I would think. But again, we

1506
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: need to hear from people. But yeah, the young corners,

1507
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: it's been so fun. I mean it's crazy. You've seen

1508
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: four turnovers out of those two guys in the last

1509
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: two weeks, just doing a lot of good things. You

1510
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: mentioned the penalties those you know, they've been getting better

1511
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: than the first couple of games. There was there was

1512
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: one we saw last week on Trek that was you know,

1513
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: as Pete said that he felt like it goes perfect

1514
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: press coverage. So they don't agree with that call, but yeah,

1515
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: it's I mean, what those two are doing, it it

1516
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: just builds really well for the future of this team,

1517
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: and then you know, eventually you do get a guy

1518
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: like Trey Brown Backett. I just think that position could

1519
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: be really exciting for for a few years to come here.

1520
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: It's been such a pleasant surprise to see how the

1521
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 1: offense has been able to keep utilizing DK and Tyler too.

1522
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: A conversation we kept having in the preseason is you

1523
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: just paid DK. How can you use him when you

1524
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: don't have Russ? And here we are watching the art

1525
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: exactly and here you have. You know, you're watching them

1526
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: score thirty points per game. I mean, has this surprised you?

1527
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: And have they been talking about, you know, kind of

1528
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 1: getting them even more involved. Yeah, you know, obviously you

1529
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: would assume that if this offense is going to do well,

1530
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: those two need to be pretty prominently involved, and they

1531
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: have been. I think if a thing surprised me, it

1532
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: has just been how well that I mean, really, you're

1533
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: talking one game where you're facing probably the best defense

1534
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and it was ugly that game. But

1535
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: otherwise you're talking four really strong games of quarterback play,

1536
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: of just overall offense. I mean, I love that they're

1537
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: going out and scoring fast. They got three touchdowns on

1538
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: their first five opening possessions. They've scored on four of

1539
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 1: their five opening possessions, So just that they're going out

1540
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: putting up big numbers I mean it's unfortunate. If the

1541
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: defense were playing a little more or playing a little better,

1542
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: we're probably talking about a four and one team right now.

1543
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: So love what the offense is doing, especially Gino Smith.

1544
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: And it seems you know, they're gonna miss Penny for sure,

1545
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: but otherwise it seems pretty sustainable. I mean, there's nothing

1546
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 1: going on there that you're like, oh, this is flukey.

1547
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna see you know, it might

1548
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 1: not be forty points every week, but I think we're

1549
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: gonna see this offense be good all year. We've been

1550
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: seeing what changes they're gonna make on defense. Last week

1551
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: I saw Ryan Neal a bit more, a lot more

1552
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: than Stones. Should we expect more the same this week?

1553
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: Where do you see? I wouldn't think so. I mean,

1554
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll spoke pretty highly of Ryan Neil on Monday

1555
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 1: when he was asked about him, So I think they

1556
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: like what he brings. He's you know, to me, the

1557
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 1: best thing we saw to him was there a couple

1558
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: I think both were third downs where you know, guy

1559
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 1: catches the ball short of the sticks in space and

1560
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 1: Ryan Neil is there to bring the guy down, and

1561
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's been a big issues some of

1562
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 1: those open field tackles. So you know, it wasn't a

1563
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: perfect game for him. There a few mistakes he's gonna

1564
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 1: want to clean up. But I love the way he bring,

1565
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: the way he plays, the energy brings in, the accountability

1566
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: he brings. I mean, I don't know if you heard

1567
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 1: his comments after the game, but he was very harsh

1568
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: on himself and that entire defense about just how they

1569
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: need to be better. And I think that's good for

1570
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: that defense. I have a veteran there and like, look,

1571
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: we're not playing up the standard. We gotta get this right.

1572
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: I think one of the last plays in the game

1573
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 1: last week was what people thought maybe was a thick

1574
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: punt and heard it was not a fake punch. So

1575
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 1: but kind of what have you heard from Michael Dixon there?

1576
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: And it looked like they were trying to sit up

1577
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: a root? Yeah, I don't Yeah, I have not heard

1578
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 1: anything from Michael Dixon on the head. I don't think

1579
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: he was in the locker room when the media was

1580
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: in there today, but it sounds like from Pete, yeah,

1581
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: they were trying to do a rugby style where you

1582
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, I think it just kind of messes with

1583
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,560
Speaker 1: a team's return game where you know the returners not

1584
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: expecting it. You put them in a weird spot where

1585
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: maybe he makes a mistake, maybe he doesn't field it,

1586
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: and the ball goes sixty yards seventy yards rolling out,

1587
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 1: so you just you get a nice punt out if

1588
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: they were not trying to run the ball on what

1589
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:23,839
Speaker 1: was the fourth and fifteen or something with the penalty,

1590
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: it just it looked really bad because it kind of

1591
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 1: broke down on Dixon. He felt like if he tried

1592
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: to get that punt off a give block, so it

1593
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: was a mess. They got special teams. It's weird this year.

1594
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: They've done a lot of really good things on special teams.

1595
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: Myers has made some big kicks, they scored a touchdown,

1596
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: but they've also put themselves in some really bad spots

1597
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 1: with that play with a fumble, so kind of been

1598
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 1: boom er bust on special teams. They got to clean

1599
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,759
Speaker 1: that up a little early. I get it early question,

1600
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: but I'm looking at Tariq. Yeah. I don't see any

1601
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: other rookie corner or any other rookie defense player playing

1602
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: the way that he's playing right now. Is he an

1603
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: early candidate for rookie, he's got to be right. I mean,

1604
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 1: he's only gonna get an interception every game all season.

1605
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: I mean, great if he might. Great if he did.

1606
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: But let's say he gets it up to five or six. Ye,

1607
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: he's playing really good coverage. That he's got to be

1608
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 1: in the conversation. I mean, I think it's probably easiest

1609
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: for a pass rusher to win that a work because

1610
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: if you know, you get going as an edge rusher

1611
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: and get sacks. We see the same thing with Defensive

1612
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. It tends to go to pass rushers.

1613
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 1: But yeah, if he's if he's getting those really good coverage.

1614
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,719
Speaker 1: It's nice now that we have enough different metrics measuring

1615
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: that's not just like, oh he got this interceptions. We

1616
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: can look at his opponent passer raiding against, which I

1617
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 1: think is around forty right now, which is phenomenal that

1618
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: you know, the grades on sites like Pro Football Focus

1619
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 1: are really favoring him as well. So yeah, if he

1620
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: keeps this up, he's definitely a strong candidate for that.

1621
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to scroll through, um some defensive stats. I'm

1622
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: going back to twenty fifteen. I want to say, if

1623
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 1: he gets six interceptions, would it be the most since

1624
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: Richard German, because I know Quandra has gotten five two years,

1625
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: two years in a row, and I think it would

1626
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: be the most since uh eight twenty thirteen. Should have

1627
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: been defensive player that you're trying to right, But how

1628
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: did no one on that defense? I digress. All right,

1629
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: we got a couple more minutes here. I wanted to

1630
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: have us wrap up final two minutes look ahead to

1631
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 1: Arizona here, keeping it really simple with just a key

1632
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 1: to a win. If you have someone that goes before

1633
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: you and says the same thing you want to say,

1634
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: feel free to say it if you think it's that important,

1635
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 1: just to maybe add some more context if you can,

1636
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: so it'll get a little trickier. John is our guests.

1637
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: You want to get us started with a key to

1638
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: a win. I mean, I'm gonna be so simple, just

1639
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 1: again the big plays on defense. You don't need to

1640
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 1: play a great perfect game on defense, just nothing over

1641
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: thirty yards, capping it at that. If you get those

1642
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: plays out of your defense, then the other things will

1643
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 1: come along slowly and you'll get better. But those are

1644
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: the ones that just killing pet Carl said it when

1645
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: you ask him about playing good defense. He says, you

1646
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: can't get beat on the huge plays and you gotta

1647
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: stop the run. And right now they're not doing either

1648
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: of those. Well enough like that six plays over twenty

1649
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: they gave up in Detroit and then last week it

1650
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: was three. So this week it needs to be won

1651
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: and then you know, I would say, is long until

1652
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: you get it fixed. Keep taking the ball away, you

1653
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: know that's that's the one thing that can change things immediately.

1654
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: Just trequel and have three interceptions yeah, one two three

1655
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: inch and field to field goal that and recovered. Yeah yeah, amazing.

1656
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: Second week in or wrong, I'm gonna say special teams.

1657
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean, when you have a blocked punt and you

1658
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: get that good field position, in two plays later they're

1659
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: in the end zone. You're not making offenses work. Hard

1660
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: said the same thing. Last week we had phobals on

1661
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: on a pump return. Um you had a fake pump

1662
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 1: return or a fake punt that was converted on them.

1663
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 1: In last week you got the block punt. Those players,

1664
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: you just made that seventeen points right there. No one said,

1665
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 1: contain Kyler Murray on the edge, keep from running outside.

1666
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: That's really you guys so sweet? Uh No, I mean

1667
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: I assume that all three of you would say something

1668
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: like this, although all three of you made fantastic points,

1669
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: and all of these are important keys to a win.

1670
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 1: But obviously the Arizona Cardinals you mentioned this Dave, outside

1671
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: of Buddha, greatest weapon is obviously going to be Kyler

1672
01:16:58,360 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: Murray and what he can do with his legs. He

1673
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: he's a headache and a half for defenses who are

1674
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: playing together and do have that chemistry and do you

1675
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: have it all figured out? Seahawks are still working on that.

1676
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: So don't let him be even more of a nightmare

1677
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 1: than he already will be. So contain the edge and

1678
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: stop those explosive plays. All the other good stuff you

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Speaker 1: guys said. Thank you John for joining us and for

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Speaker 1: every week putting up with my end of the show

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Speaker 1: game here figuring out how they got to play for

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Speaker 1: next week. They We're gonna get really weird, alright. This

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Speaker 1: has been the huddle. Don't go anywhere