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<v Speaker 1>The NBA for the past decade was fairly predictable when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it, because for the most part, we

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<v Speaker 1>had either the Warriors in there, or we have a

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron James led team in the finals. But now playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>are wide open. It's pure chaos because last night and

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers and Hawks tied up their second round series

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<v Speaker 1>at two piece. The Bucks and Nets are tied it

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<v Speaker 1>to a piece. Brooklyn's health questions looming. The Sun's had

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<v Speaker 1>an easy time of it, so they're just waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>whoever wins the Clippers or the Jazz series. The Nets

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<v Speaker 1>are still the overall favorite in Vegas, but it's clear

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<v Speaker 1>that this year's title is truly up for grabs. And

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<v Speaker 1>you go back to what happened the last decade or so.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great for TV ratings when you had Steph

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<v Speaker 1>Curry or Lebron James. You won't have that luxury. You

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<v Speaker 1>do have storylines here, some familiar faces with Kawhi Kevin Durant,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are a lot of medical issues to worry about,

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<v Speaker 1>and we may not have teams we're used to having

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<v Speaker 1>in the finals, but at least the postseason isn't predictable.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's what you want, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you root for, but that's what you have. It's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like a March madness feel to this right now, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's based on injuries. And this is what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to understand. And I know it's a different era, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know that athletes have the ability. They've opened the

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<v Speaker 1>door for pacing load management. But if you have all

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<v Speaker 1>this load management technology, better medicine, health, nutrition, diet, why

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<v Speaker 1>do we have all these injuries with marquee players. They

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<v Speaker 1>play less minutes less games. And this is a battle

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<v Speaker 1>of attrition right now. And I wonder what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say the Clippers get to the NBA Finals, do

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<v Speaker 1>we look at load management differently? We're gonna say, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>see it worked for him. Whereas Anthony Davis to me,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't in shape this year. James Harden wasn't in shape

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<v Speaker 1>this year. You've got Kyrie who's got a sprained ankle.

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<v Speaker 1>He's checked out a couple of times from the lineup.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Lebron had the sprained ankle. Now sprained ankles.

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<v Speaker 1>That's happened, that will continue to happen. There's nothing you

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<v Speaker 1>can do about that. But I do think with Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Davis with the groin injury, I just don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>he was in great shape. Joe l Embiid has the

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<v Speaker 1>knee injury. I don't know if he's ever been in

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<v Speaker 1>great shape. I don't know if he's carrying too much weight.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that happens something to do with this.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you start to look at today's athlete and

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're going to have load management in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the NFL is not bringing that up right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but seventeen games, it just feels like there will be

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<v Speaker 1>load management at some point. We haven't in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our baseball players, the pitchers, there's load management there. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>load up, throw as hard as you can, for long

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<v Speaker 1>as you can, and then we're going to take you out.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's pitching nine innings like we're shocked. If somebody has

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<v Speaker 1>a complete game, they're like, oh my god, you got

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<v Speaker 1>a complete game. Nobody's playing forty minutes in basketball, and

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like they're taking you more time off too,

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<v Speaker 1>extend their careers more contracts. Now you get another contract

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Lebron James has played four hundred more games

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<v Speaker 1>than Larry Bird did. Now just regular season. He has

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<v Speaker 1>three times as many postseason games as Larry Bird. But

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<v Speaker 1>if Larry Bird was able to have load management, he

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<v Speaker 1>would have extended his career. Steve Nash had a bad

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<v Speaker 1>back load management, maybe he would have extended his career. Yeah, seton.

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<v Speaker 1>But like James Harden has played almost as many games

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<v Speaker 1>as Magic Johnson and less seasons and is somehow softer

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<v Speaker 1>because there's load management now, whereas Magic would have somehow

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<v Speaker 1>we would think he would have just played every game.

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<v Speaker 1>But James Harden has played just as many games as

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<v Speaker 1>Magic Johnson. Yeah, he just wasn't in shape. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he went through the motions in Houston, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's caught up with him with his hamstring injury. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you start to see then Kevin Durant, Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Durant coming back from the Achilles and not looking like

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<v Speaker 1>he missed any anything, but he had that time off.

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<v Speaker 1>Clay Thompson is going to have all that time off

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<v Speaker 1>with Golden State. Yeah, Paul. Ten years ago, twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>NBA players during the regular season average thirty eight or

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<v Speaker 1>more minutes played per game. This season, not one NBA

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<v Speaker 1>player played more than thirty eight minutes per game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's totally different. Yeah, and you're you're watching this even

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<v Speaker 1>within bead last night. You know, he shouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 1>out there because he was hurting his team. And give

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<v Speaker 1>credit to the Hawks. They came, they were eighteen down,

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't turn the ball over. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>may have turned the ball over four times last night.

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<v Speaker 1>That series, I had two games apiece and Trey Young

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<v Speaker 1>had eighteen assists twenty five points, eighteen assists. Clippers beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Jazz. That series tied to two games apiece. And

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<v Speaker 1>what a big game tonight the Bucks at the nets.

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<v Speaker 1>That's game five. Yeah, mclemman. You know I'm looking back

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<v Speaker 1>at it. You know, Magic, we just did this stat

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<v Speaker 1>the other day that Magic's Lakers got swept. He hurt

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<v Speaker 1>his ankle in the finals. Larry Bird, I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>his game like he got hurt all the time. There's

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<v Speaker 1>only really one superstar whose injuries is not derailed, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's Jordan. The rest of all the other guys got

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<v Speaker 1>hurt too. I'm not sure we're being fair like back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day. Yeah, they were not load managering, but

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<v Speaker 1>they got hurt all the time. But they were playing

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. They're playing all the time, but then

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<v Speaker 1>their careers got cut short in the thirties by injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>just like we're seeing now. Yes, palling. But I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 1>if a team could go opo like where I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get my five best players on the court more forty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes a game, because my best players, even though they're

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little tired, are better than your bench guys

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<v Speaker 1>who are playing all those minutes. Will a team go, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have my five starters play forty minutes a

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<v Speaker 1>game like they did you just ten years ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't care about the regular season. I would

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<v Speaker 1>like that these teams don't care about the regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>The Clippers didn't care where they were seated wise, the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers didn't care. But I wonder if you could be

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<v Speaker 1>in better shape going into the playoffs by playing more

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<v Speaker 1>Minute's not babying yourself, and I don't know, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's it's a possibility. Yeah soon. How much of this, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is just that, like classic my generation is tougher than

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<v Speaker 1>this new softer generation, Like every generation thinks of theirs

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot tougher than these kids today, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the players in the eighties were so much tougher

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<v Speaker 1>than the players in the two thousands or something. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they played through injuries. I don't think today's athlete.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, it's a business decision. You're probably saying, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, maybe I'm gonna take a little time. I

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<v Speaker 1>think James Harden took more time off because the regular

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<v Speaker 1>season didn't mean anything to the nets. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>came back and here he is, he's out again. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyrie with an ankle injury. That happens, Lebron ankle injury,

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<v Speaker 1>that happens. I think Anthony Dave this was affected by

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<v Speaker 1>a quicker turnaround after the bubble. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he was in great shape. Joe lmbad, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he's ever been in great shape. Fabulous player, just caring.

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<v Speaker 1>He's carrying more weight than he probably needs to. And

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<v Speaker 1>with that knee, he's gonna have knee surgery after the year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>mc clean. But wasn't the same story thirty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Bill Walton would have had an unbelievable career,

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<v Speaker 1>but he had what was it feet or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Bill was gonna have an unbelievable career.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he's a pro, Okay, Yeah, that that was early

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<v Speaker 1>that he had it. I thought he was on a

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<v Speaker 1>trajectory at least be like sort of like he was

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<v Speaker 1>if healthy. But like, yeah, Sam Bowie couldn't say healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's all the NBA histories littered with guys who couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>say healthy. It's not just now. It just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>feels crazy this well, Sam Booie there was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he kept breaking his leg and it was no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to him, it just felt like he was cursed.

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<v Speaker 1>He was he was spindling. He was he was built

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<v Speaker 1>like a thoroughbread. He had legs like a thoroughbread. Who

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<v Speaker 1>is that guy who you covered in the draft who

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<v Speaker 1>you knew at bad knees and couldn't make it. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>a really good player, Brandon Roy. Yeah, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of guys who still get hurt. Yeah, but these are

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<v Speaker 1>things where a groin or a hamstring to me that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're in shape. And Lebron has invested

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<v Speaker 1>in this. He you know, he's put his money there

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Jordan's the first to do it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan hired a personal trainer. This is after they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Pistons roughed him up, and then he decided he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to have his own gym, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>his own trainer, Tim Grover, and he changed. He changed.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's a couple of athletes who have really changed

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<v Speaker 1>their sport. Martina Navratalova changed the sport. It wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>let me stand at the baseline and look cute on power.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming after you. I'm coming to the net. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>working out. Uh. She famously worked out with Nancy Lieberman,

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<v Speaker 1>great baske ball player, and really transformed her body. Where

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<v Speaker 1>now we look at tennis players, they're athletes. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not one of those that I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to play tennis on Sunday afternoon at the club.

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<v Speaker 1>You got athletes are out there. And Jordan did this

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<v Speaker 1>with basketball. You never lifted weights. And I think with

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<v Speaker 1>today's athlete, you know, are they pacing themselves? And we've

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<v Speaker 1>allowed that to happen. This sport has allowed that to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Even baseball, you know we five innings? My god, I

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<v Speaker 1>got five innings out of my starter. How many complete games,

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<v Speaker 1>nine inning complete games have been thrown this year the

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<v Speaker 1>entire league. Yeah, I'm guessing Jacob deGrom probably has a

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<v Speaker 1>majority of those, but the entire sport of baseball? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have twenty complete games? I would take the under Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>give me a second, right, So what kind of pull

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<v Speaker 1>question you got, Nicklevin? By the way, you know there,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they're going to Are they instituting a new

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<v Speaker 1>role or is this the same rule that Baseball's had

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<v Speaker 1>with doctoring a baseball because it feels like it's been

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<v Speaker 1>on the books here and it felt like the Mothership

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<v Speaker 1>had breaking news that Jeff Passon had found out that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to it's a ten day suspension if they

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<v Speaker 1>find that you have anything, A pitcher has anything that

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<v Speaker 1>he's using any kind of substance with pay. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>ten days, not ten games and with pay. Wow, they're

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<v Speaker 1>cracking down. Do not mess with the Baseball Players Association. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>if you get caught cheating, we're sending you on vacation

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<v Speaker 1>and we're paying for it. Now you take that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you learned your less as I did. I did.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a take ten days off, keep your pay to

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<v Speaker 1>take ten days off. Yes, it's just the shame that

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to live with. Shame, shame. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>should do that. If you get caught in the four

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<v Speaker 1>they shame you out of the ball bar, everybody sham

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<v Speaker 1>end of the bullpen, shame yes time. And you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna miss one start. You're probably gonna miss two starts,

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<v Speaker 1>which up ten days. Yes, m yeah, go down to

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<v Speaker 1>Cabo and think about what you yea, yes yeah. That

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<v Speaker 1>rule h ten game suspension has been in play for

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<v Speaker 1>over one hundred years. They're in the original rules of

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<v Speaker 1>baseball that were well over one hundred years ago were written.

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<v Speaker 1>No players show intentionally discolor or damage the ball by

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<v Speaker 1>rubbing it with soil, rosin, paraffin, licorice, sand paper, emory paper,

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<v Speaker 1>and other foreign substances. The umpire that that should tell

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<v Speaker 1>you how old this is. This this is in the

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<v Speaker 1>new role. Licorice. It looks like three fingers brown. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got licorice on this ball. During probition, we'll have no

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<v Speaker 1>doctor in the baseball. The umbuyers shall demand the ball

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<v Speaker 1>and remove the offender from the game, and the offender

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<v Speaker 1>shall be suspended automatically for ten games. Okay, this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a new rule. There's there's nothing to see here. It's

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<v Speaker 1>ten days and you get paid. Wow, that's a deterrent

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the first time you got caught with steroids? Was

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<v Speaker 1>it like three game suspension or did you get a

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<v Speaker 1>warning now you stopped taking? Hey, you stop that, Get

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<v Speaker 1>that syringe out of your arm right now, right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Check on them in club and let me know if

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<v Speaker 1>But wasn't. It didn't start out like you know, we're gonna,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, verbally spank you and that's it, or three

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<v Speaker 1>games or something and that's five or something. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>get past here of Mordecai three fingers brown reference. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a ped to have only three figures a spin. You

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<v Speaker 1>could get on that. Yeah, yeah, licorice? He got some

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<v Speaker 1>liquorice on there? Is that licorice on there? Yes it is.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gone ten days with pay? What are you in for? Licorice?

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<v Speaker 1>Like a baseball prison where you go in there? What

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<v Speaker 1>are you in there for? Hardcourt steroids? What are you

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<v Speaker 1>in here for? I was taking some speed and what

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<v Speaker 1>are you in here for? I put some liquorice on

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<v Speaker 1>a baseball and I'm gonna do it again. Don't mess him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna break out of here after ten days. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tunnel my way out of here. Who's with me?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's three fingers Brown? All right, let me take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Florio is going to join us. I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>disappointed in our brethren because the Aaron Rodgers situation, it

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<v Speaker 1>just brings out these breathless reports. How is this fixable?

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<v Speaker 1>Will he not play in twenty twenty one? I just

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<v Speaker 1>figured let me have Florio on and he might be

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<v Speaker 1>a buzz kill because you know, we want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>this story going. But I'm just curious. Aaron Rodgers under

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<v Speaker 1>contract and it doesn't feel like packers are trading him

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<v Speaker 1>and he can't trade himself, so you want to sit

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<v Speaker 1>out and not play? Is that where we're headed? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that what all of this is based on? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if Aaron Rodgers is going to be any

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<v Speaker 1>other place than Green Bay. Foyo Joints is coming up next.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll settle on a pole question. Glad to have you

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<v Speaker 1>part of the program. We're back after this in the

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<v Speaker 1>set the over under at twenty complete games in baseball

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<v Speaker 1>so far this season. Pauli said he'd take the under.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a team eighteen complete games so far in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one. We'll settle on a pole question. Did we

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<v Speaker 1>settle on a pole question? McLeman? Wow for mister Florio.

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<v Speaker 1>Will Aaron Rodgers be undersetter for the Green Bay Packers

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<v Speaker 1>a week ard? Every three weeks we throw it up

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<v Speaker 1>there to see where people are. I know, yeah, I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I would guess today's results would be different than three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. Do you want to give odds here, Paulie,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'd maintain all along. Aaron Rodgers is in Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay to start this season barring injury right where. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a scheduled Day one starter for the Packers barring massive injury. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I would bet a thousand to anyone's five hundred, A

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<v Speaker 1>thousand to five hundred, yeah, anybody? All right? Let me

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<v Speaker 1>see if Florio wants a piece of that. He's got money,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live joining us. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>want to jump in on this, Mike, No, No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the reasons I have money is I don't

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<v Speaker 1>waste on gambling. Look. I go back and forth on

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<v Speaker 1>this too. It's a beautiful mystery. It's what Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>wants us to think, he wants to not know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Packers, specifically the CEO Mark Murphy, doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>him to show up. I think he's daring him to

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<v Speaker 1>not show up. I think that's the only way to

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<v Speaker 1>make sense of that gratuitous for Mark he made last week,

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<v Speaker 1>calling him a complicated fella. I think Murphy would rather

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<v Speaker 1>move on with Jordan Love save thirty five million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in salary, and they would get bonus money back from

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers. They don't have to worry about him playing

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<v Speaker 1>for the Broncos or anyone else and making them look stupid. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>they could trade him after the season, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, Murphy, you attached him to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of detector tests. He'd have to say, yeah, I'd rather

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<v Speaker 1>the guy, and I'll show up this year. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that vibe makes Aaron Rodgers more determined to show up.

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<v Speaker 1>But you want to trade him, don't you to get

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<v Speaker 1>something for him? So you wouldn't You wouldn't do anything now,

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<v Speaker 1>you would wait until after the season. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, you get more after the season, you

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<v Speaker 1>get more teams to the table. Be like Hayton Manning

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twelve, you'd have ten teams. I think he'd

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<v Speaker 1>easily have ten after the season. Right now, you got

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<v Speaker 1>the Broncos, maybe the Raiders, maybe the Raiders. The Raiders

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<v Speaker 1>saying all the right things about Derek Carr. But if

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers becomes available and you're looking at him going

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<v Speaker 1>to the Broncos, how do you well, he's not make

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<v Speaker 1>a phone call if for no reason other than to

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<v Speaker 1>drive up the price the Broncos have to pay. But

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<v Speaker 1>after the season, when we have another I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say two hundred and fifty six, it's now two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy two games, teams will look at their quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>and said, got to get rid of that guy. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers is available, Let's go get in line and

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<v Speaker 1>try to get him. Yeah. I'm just trying to understand

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<v Speaker 1>the timing of all to this, Mike, that if you're Rogers,

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<v Speaker 1>give me Rogers side of this, that what is the

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<v Speaker 1>end game for him this year? Well? I find it

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating Dan. The guys like James Jones who played with

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers still talk to Rogers, and more importantly, Rogers still

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<v Speaker 1>talks to them after they do media and say what

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers has said. I think Rogers he is doing a

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<v Speaker 1>little puppet mastery through guys like James Jones. He says

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<v Speaker 1>it's fixable, it's fixable, Well, okay, then then fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us what it's going to take to fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>What does it take? I don't know. And as I

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<v Speaker 1>told you on Friday, I think this is a high

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<v Speaker 1>States pr battle where each side is trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>the other side look like the bad guy. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just think right now, Aaron Rodgers wants to create chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the line from one of the Batman movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Some men just like to see the world burn. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Rogers is just trying to make the front

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<v Speaker 1>office of the Packers burn. It's one thing that he

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<v Speaker 1>says he loves everything about Green Bay. He loves the tradition,

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<v Speaker 1>he loves the fans, he loves the coaching staff, he

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<v Speaker 1>loves his teammates. So one, if you don't like somebody

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<v Speaker 1>in management, and if it is fixable, then what is

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<v Speaker 1>it that needs to be fixed? Is what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know, because you can't undraft Jordan Love. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>fixable unless you say we're going to trade him and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to do that. Here's your poll question

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<v Speaker 1>for today, Yes or no? Is there someone in management

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<v Speaker 1>at your workplace that you hate overwhelmingly? Yes? And you

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<v Speaker 1>still show up every days. So and it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>he has to deal with Mark Murphy in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would advise Mark Murphy and Bryan Goudicoints to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid the locker room in the practice field this year

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<v Speaker 1>unless they're gonna work cups. But yeah, you're there with

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<v Speaker 1>your teammates, you're there with your head coach, you're there

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<v Speaker 1>for the fans. I just the whole thing is is

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<v Speaker 1>pr driven and who knows what Aaron Rodgers wants, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he wants. He wants us talking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wants to reserve the right to say why

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about it? Yeah, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the endgame is Mike. Does he is he willing

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<v Speaker 1>to sit out and not play football this year? Does

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<v Speaker 1>he want to be traded? Like at some point you

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<v Speaker 1>have to get to Now, let's sit down and discuss

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen here? Is he just going to

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<v Speaker 1>show up and play football this year and act as

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<v Speaker 1>if none of this happened. I thought for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time that that's what he would do, Dan, that he

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<v Speaker 1>would show up and basically says, what's the big deal

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<v Speaker 1>is there? You know a booker that I'm unaware of?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is everyone looking at me? And act like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a media creation? Because it always is our fault. Obviously,

0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:16.680
<v Speaker 1>they create the template that we react to, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>our fault for reacting to it. But I just really

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<v Speaker 1>truly don't know, and I change my mind all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I am am a victim of what

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to create. It would be very easy for

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<v Speaker 1>him to say what he wants, how he wants it.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have to Packers fans get upset with me,

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<v Speaker 1>or more accurately, Aaron Rodgers fans get upset with me

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<v Speaker 1>when I say he should tell people what he wants. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have to, But when you don't, you create

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<v Speaker 1>these situations where we end up obsessing over what the

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<v Speaker 1>guy wants because for whatever reason, he won't tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what he wants. He's like Florio. Pro Football Talk Live

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<v Speaker 1>co host with Chris Simms, You've got went less than

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks for the veterans to show up two weeks today.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going to happen with to Shaun Watson? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>eligible to show up for training camp? This is a

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<v Speaker 1>great question that has taken a back seat to the

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers drama. And Nick Kissario, the GM of the Texans,

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<v Speaker 1>was on radio in Houston yesterday and he said, what

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<v Speaker 1>the talking points have been for weeks now, They're not

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<v Speaker 1>saying anything about Watson, etc. But at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the answer, he said, as we get close to training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>will make the best decision that we can in the

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<v Speaker 1>interest of the Houston Texans. Dan, I think that the

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<v Speaker 1>Texans have been hoping, and I know that the Texans

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<v Speaker 1>have been hoping that the twenty two lawsuits pending against

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<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Watson would be settled, because if they're settled, you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to trade Watson and you're able to get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot for him in tray. That's the thing that teams

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<v Speaker 1>are waiting to have goal way if they can properly

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<v Speaker 1>resolve the cases. And I've been an advocate of Deshaun

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<v Speaker 1>Watson facing the music, having his reckoning, making these twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two individuals feel like they've gotten justice, had their quasi

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<v Speaker 1>day in court, write the check and move on with

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<v Speaker 1>your life, and then he can be traded. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>possibility that the Texans are gonna have to make a

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<v Speaker 1>decision without the cases being settled. What do you do

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<v Speaker 1>with DeShawn Watson as training camp arrives. Do you trade

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<v Speaker 1>him for whatever you can get, which is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>less if the twenty two cases are pending, or do

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you let him show up because I think you will

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 1>show up because if it gets put them a paid leave,

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:41.399
<v Speaker 1>which people think will happen, Texans have to pay ten

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 1>million dollars to not play for them this year. So

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I think for the Texans, they have to ask, if

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<v Speaker 1>the cases aren't settled, do we just take whatever we

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<v Speaker 1>can get bargain basement deal to trade Watson? Or do

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:54.280
<v Speaker 1>we run the risk of paying him ten minim and

0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:56.200
<v Speaker 1>the other side of it too. And Sis and I

0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>were talking about this earlier to day. At some point

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the league, I think, oh, is it to Watson, the

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Texans and any team that would want to trade for Watson?

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 1>To get people an inkling of what they're thinking, are

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you putting on paid leave? You know, they had a

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.199
<v Speaker 1>lot of uncertainly with Antonio Brown two years ago. They

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:16.520
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't tell teams what they were going to do, and

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>then no one would touch him with this. He's under contract,

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 1>He's getting ten million this year from somebody. I think

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 1>they should let the irrelevant people know what they're going

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 1>to do so people can make their their best decisions

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>about what they're going to do moving forward. The most

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 1>interesting training camps will be where well, obviously green Back.

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean that that's a giving whether Rogers is there

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:43.399
<v Speaker 1>or not there. It's either gonna be Rogers and you know,

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>making his passive aggressive comments and then getting mad when

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 1>people point out that he's made passive aggressive comments, which

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 1>I always like, Seattle is going to be compelling because

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>yeah he did. Did you hear Russell Wilson never asked

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 1>for a trade. Now we didn't have to. He went

0:25:57.680 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 1>on your show and he made it clear he wants out,

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and the agent comes out and says, well, my client

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:03.159
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to be trained, but in the event that

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.119
<v Speaker 1>you're trained, these are the four teams he played for.

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Of course, he was disgruntled and unhappy. He was miserable

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>at the Super Bowl watching Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady.

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 1>How's that gonna go? Are they able to set all

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>that aside and easy on board with the Shane Waldron offense?

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 1>And you know the Jaguars training camp just for shared

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 1>tament purposes with Tim Tebow and the college approach that

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Urban Meyer is bringing to town. Is that gonna work?

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>So you know, there's always that short list of must

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>see training camps that obviously never end up being the

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>subject of hard knots, But I wish they would. Okay,

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:38.159
<v Speaker 1>let me you touched on Tim Tebow. I thought he

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>was going to be a big distraction. We haven't had

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 1>that distraction with Tim Tebow. When is that going to happen? Well,

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 1>they've kept him from talking to reporters, and I'm not

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>up on the rules of when accesses mandatory in the offseason.

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:57.159
<v Speaker 1>Once you get into the regular season, everyone's got to

0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.440
<v Speaker 1>be available at least once during the week and after

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>each game. But the weirdest things happened, Dan. There's been

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 1>at least two straight Urban Meyer press conferences and the

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 1>folks covering the Jaguars haven't asked about tea Boat just

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 1>haven't asked about him. And I get the impression locally.

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 1>They've gotten used to it, and that's helped this kind

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>of not be a factor. He's just kind of going

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 1>about his business. And I don't know, are they getting

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>the vibe that Meyer doesn't want to be asked about him?

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but he's there. They're selling jerseys and

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.959
<v Speaker 1>he's quietly learning the tight end position. I still think

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:34.640
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be on the team this year. They're gonna

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>find a way to get him on the team. On

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>the field catching one yard touchdown palaces, throwing one yard

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>touchdown passes, or having one yard rushing touchdowns. It'll be awesome.

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 1>It'll be awesome. That's another cottage industry. Do you realize

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the cottage industries we have in our world? And I

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 1>love them, Like Aaron Rodgers, that's a cottage industry that

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the story about those covers the stories. Lebron is a

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>cottage industry. Tom Brady is a cottage industry. There's certain

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>guys that you have. I mean, the Mothership has moved

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>people around from city to city to cover Lebron. James, yea, hey,

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 1>we want you to relocate to Los Angeles to cover Lebron.

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty it's pretty crazy. Dan. People ask me why

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>do I keep writing and talking about Aaron Rodgers. Easy response.

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I am a businessman. I have access real time to

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:35.120
<v Speaker 1>my traffic. I see which stories people read. I give

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the people what they want. Isn't it funny? In this business,

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>You've got the people who give the fans and the

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>readers what they want, and then you've got the people

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 1>who give them what they think they should want, and

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>those are the ones that don't stay in business. It's

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that simple. I'll check back in with you soon, Mike.

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Bud. That's Mike Flord Pro Football Talk Live

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>co host. It's just when somebody comes on the air

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's just that can this be fixed? In Green Bay?

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>How can it be fixed? When will it be fixed?

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Is it over for Aaron Rodgers? Will he retire to

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>take the Jeopardy job? I'm like, is Rogers gonna walk

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 1>away from all this money? He's made a lot of money.

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Is he gonna walk away and just sit? I think

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna play. Yes. See, you're supposed to say, We'll

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>tell you why Aaron Rodgers is walking away from thirty

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>five million dollars next right after this. Yes, you have

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to pretend to have an answer to something unanswerable and

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>then not answer at the next segment. That's the move Dan. Yes,

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Florio has this Aaron Rodgers puppetmaster. He's in the Aaron

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Rodgers is manipulating everybody kind of yes, with school there's

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>like a multiple schools on how you approach this. And

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 1>he kind of thinks Rodgers is brilliant, which I kind

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>of like. I see that as a compelling argument. What

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>is he getting out of this? I have no idea.

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>If you tell me that's why he did it, that's

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>all I want to know. Okay, what needs to be fixed?

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:15.960
<v Speaker 1>It's fixable according to his former teammate, But what is

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>it that has to be fixed? I'd be curious about that. Well,

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Florida is saying it's almost for his own entertainment or

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>amusement to see everybody scramble without real facts. You know,

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's true. But maybe Rogers. You know,

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>he's got a different side. He's kind of a funny guy.

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Is it possible he could end this all tomorrow by

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>saying something? But I don't wait. You think he's just

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>sitting back going. I think maybe he's enjoying this to

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>some extent. Maybe that's just take. I completely agree with that.

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Aaron Rodgers a guy who needs attention

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>or needs headlines, but I think he enjoys being the

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>puppeteer of the media. I think he's sitting back with

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 1>a drink in his hand, watching first take or something,

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>going look at this and how wrong they are, and

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>he enjoys. Not what do you get out of that? Oh,

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>like just snarky entertainment? Yes? No, no, remember relaxed r

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>A l X, Thank you Mclub. It does seem like

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of work just for mere entertainment of a

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:21.479
<v Speaker 1>professional quarterback, Like, yes, has he or his agent been

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 1>asked straight up what needs to be fixed? Well, no

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 1>one's allowed to ask that question. Is No one's running

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>down Rogers. He stays in the basement of his house.

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's been around him. But someone's got to be able

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>to ask the mark Rogers or the agent the question

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>or get a note to him. And then if he

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>doesn't respond, that's one thing, But I don't know how

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>if it's not they're not responding. And Rogers when he

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 1>was on with Kenny Maine, I guess Kenny asked him,

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>but he chose not to answer that he was on

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Sports Center Live and that he could have cleared up

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>anything he wanted to hit open rain. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:31:57.040 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Mark Rogers, is Russell Wilson's ASA, right, and David is

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what Todd said, is it? I dope

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>it's a Rodgers kid of you? Is that? Is that why?

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 1>But the agent still needs David? Yeah, but the agents

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 1>usually don't. Maybe that's why we haven't gotten Aaron Rodgers on.

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>You keep saying to Mark Rodgers, is Aaron available? Yeah?

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but it's funny. The ages ages never really

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>except for Drew Rosenhouse speak publicly. I'd love to hear

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>what Aaron Rodgers agent has to say here. Well, you're

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>seeing the spin with Russell Wilson that you know he

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.959
<v Speaker 1>didn't want out, but if you were going to trade him,

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>he had four teams to go to. Nothing to see here.

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Everything's good and Russ seems to be happy there. They

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 1>whatever they needed to fix they fixed. Because Russ didn't

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>ask for a trade. Uh, Seattle wasn't going to trade him.

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>They fixed it. I don't know what Aaron Rodgers is

0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 1>asking for, and I don't know if it's fixable because

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>if your feelings were hurt, he told that to us.

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Draft night, He's watching the Packers draft his replacement, and

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 1>they didn't tell him. Buccaneers said to Tom Brady, we're

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>going to draft Kyle Trask. They at least gave him

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>a heads up. Now, granted, he's what six years older

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 1>than Aaron Rodgers, not a first round pick either, but

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe the Buccaneers said, oh, well, we don't

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>want to do that to Tom. We should at least

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 1>give him a heads up. Here, Aaron didn't get the

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>heads up. That's not fixable because I truly think this

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>management wants to move on to Jordan's Love. And if

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>they get one more year out of Aaron Rodgers and

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Love gets to absorb the system, then they're going

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>to be in a better situation salary cap wise. You know,

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>do they lose one of the great quarterbacks of all time? Yes,

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>But it feels like they're letting the fans know, look

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 1>at what we deal with, and so you you kind

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>of curry favor with the fan base to go, hey,

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, we loved him, but you know what, you're

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>almost preparing the fan base for. He's not going to

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 1>be here. He's choosing the you know, someplace else. He

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to be here. This isn't fixable, yeah, point,

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>And like you said, they were in a position probably

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>where they thought they would do this a year ago

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>or this year. But Rogers is too good. The team's

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>too good that they're too close to contending. They are contenders, obviously,

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>one of the three best teams in the NFC, so

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>they had to delay their plan a year. All it

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:39.839
<v Speaker 1>is is the Packers bet against Aaron Rodgers. Let's get plain.

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Is simple, because if he had an MVP season, they

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have drafted a quarterback. If they went seven and

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 1>nine last year, then he's not your quarterback. They would

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 1>have traded him and Jordan Love would probably be your guy,

0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 1>or you'd have a bridge quarterback. It's just put up

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 1>an incredible season and they bet against that happening, and

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:10.760
<v Speaker 1>now they find him in a situation that's supposedly fixable.

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:13.360
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<v Speaker 1>really about a father's son relationship. And Right Thompson is

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>only he can as another bestseller. Every time he comes on,

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 1>we make his book the number one book on the

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 1>New York Times list. And we'll do this again. We'll

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 1>have him on Next Hour and it's a great Father's

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Day gift. Wonderful. Another Father's Day gift is John Wortheim

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:42.800
<v Speaker 1>from sixty Minutes. He has written a book about the

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>year nineteen eighty four. All the now there's music involved

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 1>in it with Springsteen and Prince, but there's Michael Jordan,

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Mary lou Retton, Carl Lewis, all of these crazy stories

0:37:56.160 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>that just all intersect the USFL boxing Wayne Gretzky, and

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:07.720
<v Speaker 1>it's about the year nineteen eighty four. It's not George Orwell,

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>but it's nineteen eighty four. It's really well done. That's

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.440
<v Speaker 1>another book for Father's Day that I would recommend. I'm

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>reading that one now. I've already read Pappy Land. Yeah, Poli,

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I haven't even read the Worth Time book. But if

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:21.319
<v Speaker 1>you start thinking back, just off the top of your head,

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 1>was Michael Jordan drafted to eighty four? Yeah? Doc Gooden? Yeah,

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>they talk about Doc Gooden. I mean, there's so many

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>new athletes who came around eighty Patrick Ewing with a

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>senior at Georgetown. But all of the stories and then

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:36.279
<v Speaker 1>you like each chapter, it's like, God, that happened in

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty four. I think Lebron was born in nineteen

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 1>eighty four, but they're just so much that went on

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 1>that year. And you know, even with Donald Trump trying

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 1>to force his way into the NFL, he had the

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>USFL the New Jersey Generals, and they had a time

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 1>frame that I think that they could have had a

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 1>couple of teams absorbed because they had some star players

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 1>and this was like the ABA. But they pushed the

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 1>time frame up too quickly and they ended up, you know,

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.760
<v Speaker 1>going bankrupt. Yeah. Time, he's got stuff about bird magic

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and that till Over and christ Everard like it covers

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 1>like all the sports. Yeah, Olympics, Mike Tyson missing out

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>on the Olympic team. Yeah, it's really well done covering

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 1>the Olympic trials. When Bob Knight first saw Michael Jordan

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and Charles Barkley, and Barkley would have words for Bob Knight,

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, he kind of talked back, make fun of him,

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 1>and Bob Knight didn't have him on the Olympic team

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>in eighty four. But Bob Knight realized he had just

0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:43.800
<v Speaker 1>seen the best basketball player he had ever seen, the

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.880
<v Speaker 1>most talented player when he saw Michael Jordan when they

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 1>had these Olympic trials, and the fact that Michael wanted

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>to stay his senior year at North Carolina. An hour

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 1>and a half before a press confert, Dean Smith said,

0:39:57.040 --> 0:40:00.479
<v Speaker 1>you're going, like you gotta go. He didn't. He didn't

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 1>want to risk an injury to Michael Jordan, and Jordan

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 1>wanted to stay at North Carolina one more year. They

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:08.399
<v Speaker 1>had a press conference and an hour and a half

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 1>before that, you know, Michael was basically told you're going,

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 1>You're going to the NBA. But just imagine, I mean

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 1>he went his junior year. He could have stayed and

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:24.799
<v Speaker 1>if he had gone one more year than he would

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>have been there with Patrick Ewing. And we'll talk to

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 1>John worthime. He'll join us tomorrow to talk about this book. Right,

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Thompson will join us coming up in about a half

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 1>hour with his book as well. Tom and Iowa joins us. Now, Hi, Tom,

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>what's on your mind today? Well, good morning, five nine

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:48.240
<v Speaker 1>one seventy. I have a take on is Aaron Rodgers

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:51.399
<v Speaker 1>that nobody's talking but the most route of manaster you read,

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 1>not afford to retire. And it has nothing to do

0:40:54.640 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 1>with money. If you're dating a very successful actress. Part

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 1>of the allure of being Aaron Rodgers, his league MVP,

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 1>perennial contender for a title, all this. I don't think

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:15.360
<v Speaker 1>that in his selfness, his selfishness, his eagle will allow

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 1>him to retire for a chance he may lose her,

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 1>not saying she's shallow, but part of that whole package

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 1>is that. And if he becomes a retired football player,

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 1>well that changes the whole dynamics of the relationship, no

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.879
<v Speaker 1>matter how much money he had. Well, thank you, Tom.

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Shaleene Woodley is hanging on to

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers while he still plays and if he retires

0:41:39.200 --> 0:41:42.839
<v Speaker 1>that somehow she'll move on to somebody else. I don't

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>think so. Yes, not that Tom and Iowa tipped his

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 1>hand too much on which way he's leaning on that,

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 1>But if I can recap that call correctly, Aaron Rodgers

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 1>is selfish and his future wife is shallow back to you,

0:41:57.680 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 1>but he hasn't made up his mind about I'm not

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>really sure how I feel about it, but it's selfish

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>ego and she's pretty shallow. So yeah, not that I'm

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>saying that, but no, yea. She does add a bizarre

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>element to this because they met to an astrologer, right,

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that the story? That's a published report? So it

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:17.760
<v Speaker 1>makes you think that he's into some sort of Hollywood Jeopardy.

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 1>There's so much in this. Yeah, we haven't even mentioned

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Jeopardy of weeks, have we. I don't think he's getting

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 1>the Jeopardy job, and just I'm just saying astrologer. Yeah,

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 1>they Aaron Rodgers in California. People do weird things out there,

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 1>is our listeners. Now, Yeah, but maybe maybe he's puppeteering this.

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we could sell you on this that this is

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 1>all just entertainment. Is he that bored? He's got a

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 1>fiance like you've been traveling? He like, he's like, man, uh,

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of bored with Hylene. Let me see I

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>can whip up some drama here in Green Bay. Ah,

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>this is so much fun. Like I don't, I just don't.

0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't strike me as what Aaron Rodgers is. He's

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:07.439
<v Speaker 1>got that golf match that's coming up in a couple

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:12.400
<v Speaker 1>of weeks. I don't. Well, it seems like he's doing okay.

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 1>He's made over two hundred million dollars, got a place

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>in Malibu. He's engaged, but not engaged with the packers. Yes,

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 1>but he wants to be working because his future wife

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be on set, traveling doing all her things.

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 1>You gotta be working. He can't be one of those

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 1>guys sit around the trailer on set. I get. I

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I just can't imagine that he's he's so

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 1>diabolical that he's creating this. We'll set a lot of

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:47.320
<v Speaker 1>pull question more phone calls, get to those game five

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 1>bucks nets. We'll talk to Reggie Miller about that. Coming up.

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