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Speaker 1: The NBA for the past decade was fairly predictable when
Speaker 1: you think about it, because for the most part, we
Speaker 1: had either the Warriors in there, or we have a
Speaker 1: Lebron James led team in the finals. But now playoffs
Speaker 1: are wide open. It's pure chaos because last night and
Speaker 1: the Clippers and Hawks tied up their second round series
Speaker 1: at two piece. The Bucks and Nets are tied it
Speaker 1: to a piece. Brooklyn's health questions looming. The Sun's had
Speaker 1: an easy time of it, so they're just waiting for
Speaker 1: whoever wins the Clippers or the Jazz series. The Nets
Speaker 1: are still the overall favorite in Vegas, but it's clear
Speaker 1: that this year's title is truly up for grabs. And
Speaker 1: you go back to what happened the last decade or so.
Speaker 1: It was great for TV ratings when you had Steph
Speaker 1: Curry or Lebron James. You won't have that luxury. You
Speaker 1: do have storylines here, some familiar faces with Kawhi Kevin Durant,
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of medical issues to worry about,
Speaker 1: and we may not have teams we're used to having
Speaker 1: in the finals, but at least the postseason isn't predictable.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's what you want, that's what
Speaker 1: you root for, but that's what you have. It's almost
Speaker 1: like a March madness feel to this right now, But
Speaker 1: it's based on injuries. And this is what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to understand. And I know it's a different era, and
Speaker 1: I know that athletes have the ability. They've opened the
Speaker 1: door for pacing load management. But if you have all
Speaker 1: this load management technology, better medicine, health, nutrition, diet, why
Speaker 1: do we have all these injuries with marquee players. They
Speaker 1: play less minutes less games. And this is a battle
Speaker 1: of attrition right now. And I wonder what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Let's say the Clippers get to the NBA Finals, do
Speaker 1: we look at load management differently? We're gonna say, yep,
Speaker 1: see it worked for him. Whereas Anthony Davis to me,
Speaker 1: wasn't in shape this year. James Harden wasn't in shape
Speaker 1: this year. You've got Kyrie who's got a sprained ankle.
Speaker 1: He's checked out a couple of times from the lineup.
Speaker 1: You know, Lebron had the sprained ankle. Now sprained ankles.
Speaker 1: That's happened, that will continue to happen. There's nothing you
Speaker 1: can do about that. But I do think with Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis with the groin injury, I just don't think that
Speaker 1: he was in great shape. Joe l Embiid has the
Speaker 1: knee injury. I don't know if he's ever been in
Speaker 1: great shape. I don't know if he's carrying too much weight.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that happens something to do with this.
Speaker 1: But when you start to look at today's athlete and
Speaker 1: I think you're going to have load management in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I know the NFL is not bringing that up right now,
Speaker 1: but seventeen games, it just feels like there will be
Speaker 1: load management at some point. We haven't in you know,
Speaker 1: our baseball players, the pitchers, there's load management there. Uh,
Speaker 1: load up, throw as hard as you can, for long
Speaker 1: as you can, and then we're going to take you out.
Speaker 1: Nobody's pitching nine innings like we're shocked. If somebody has
Speaker 1: a complete game, they're like, oh my god, you got
Speaker 1: a complete game. Nobody's playing forty minutes in basketball, and
Speaker 1: it feels like they're taking you more time off too,
Speaker 1: extend their careers more contracts. Now you get another contract
Speaker 1: in there. Lebron James has played four hundred more games
Speaker 1: than Larry Bird did. Now just regular season. He has
Speaker 1: three times as many postseason games as Larry Bird. But
Speaker 1: if Larry Bird was able to have load management, he
Speaker 1: would have extended his career. Steve Nash had a bad
Speaker 1: back load management, maybe he would have extended his career. Yeah, seton.
Speaker 1: But like James Harden has played almost as many games
Speaker 1: as Magic Johnson and less seasons and is somehow softer
Speaker 1: because there's load management now, whereas Magic would have somehow
Speaker 1: we would think he would have just played every game.
Speaker 1: But James Harden has played just as many games as
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson. Yeah, he just wasn't in shape. You know,
Speaker 1: he went through the motions in Houston, and I think
Speaker 1: it's caught up with him with his hamstring injury. But
Speaker 1: you know, you start to see then Kevin Durant, Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant coming back from the Achilles and not looking like
Speaker 1: he missed any anything, but he had that time off.
Speaker 1: Clay Thompson is going to have all that time off
Speaker 1: with Golden State. Yeah, Paul. Ten years ago, twenty five
Speaker 1: NBA players during the regular season average thirty eight or
Speaker 1: more minutes played per game. This season, not one NBA
Speaker 1: player played more than thirty eight minutes per game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's totally different. Yeah, and you're you're watching this even
Speaker 1: within bead last night. You know, he shouldn't have been
Speaker 1: out there because he was hurting his team. And give
Speaker 1: credit to the Hawks. They came, they were eighteen down,
Speaker 1: but they didn't turn the ball over. I think they
Speaker 1: may have turned the ball over four times last night.
Speaker 1: That series, I had two games apiece and Trey Young
Speaker 1: had eighteen assists twenty five points, eighteen assists. Clippers beat
Speaker 1: the Jazz. That series tied to two games apiece. And
Speaker 1: what a big game tonight the Bucks at the nets.
Speaker 1: That's game five. Yeah, mclemman. You know I'm looking back
Speaker 1: at it. You know, Magic, we just did this stat
Speaker 1: the other day that Magic's Lakers got swept. He hurt
Speaker 1: his ankle in the finals. Larry Bird, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: his game like he got hurt all the time. There's
Speaker 1: only really one superstar whose injuries is not derailed, and
Speaker 1: that's Jordan. The rest of all the other guys got
Speaker 1: hurt too. I'm not sure we're being fair like back
Speaker 1: in the day. Yeah, they were not load managering, but
Speaker 1: they got hurt all the time. But they were playing
Speaker 1: all the time. They're playing all the time, but then
Speaker 1: their careers got cut short in the thirties by injuries,
Speaker 1: just like we're seeing now. Yes, palling. But I'm wondering
Speaker 1: if a team could go opo like where I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get my five best players on the court more forty
Speaker 1: minutes a game, because my best players, even though they're
Speaker 1: maybe a little tired, are better than your bench guys
Speaker 1: who are playing all those minutes. Will a team go, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have my five starters play forty minutes a
Speaker 1: game like they did you just ten years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you don't care about the regular season. I would
Speaker 1: like that these teams don't care about the regular season.
Speaker 1: The Clippers didn't care where they were seated wise, the
Speaker 1: Lakers didn't care. But I wonder if you could be
Speaker 1: in better shape going into the playoffs by playing more
Speaker 1: Minute's not babying yourself, and I don't know, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it's it's a possibility. Yeah soon. How much of this, though,
Speaker 1: is just that, like classic my generation is tougher than
Speaker 1: this new softer generation, Like every generation thinks of theirs
Speaker 1: was a lot tougher than these kids today, you know,
Speaker 1: Like the players in the eighties were so much tougher
Speaker 1: than the players in the two thousands or something. Well,
Speaker 1: I think they played through injuries. I don't think today's athlete.
Speaker 1: And look, it's a business decision. You're probably saying, you
Speaker 1: know what, maybe I'm gonna take a little time. I
Speaker 1: think James Harden took more time off because the regular
Speaker 1: season didn't mean anything to the nets. And then he
Speaker 1: came back and here he is, he's out again. You know,
Speaker 1: Kyrie with an ankle injury. That happens, Lebron ankle injury,
Speaker 1: that happens. I think Anthony Dave this was affected by
Speaker 1: a quicker turnaround after the bubble. And I don't think
Speaker 1: he was in great shape. Joe lmbad, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's ever been in great shape. Fabulous player, just caring.
Speaker 1: He's carrying more weight than he probably needs to. And
Speaker 1: with that knee, he's gonna have knee surgery after the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mc clean. But wasn't the same story thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: I mean Bill Walton would have had an unbelievable career,
Speaker 1: but he had what was it feet or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think Bill was gonna have an unbelievable career.
Speaker 1: Oh he's a pro, Okay, Yeah, that that was early
Speaker 1: that he had it. I thought he was on a
Speaker 1: trajectory at least be like sort of like he was
Speaker 1: if healthy. But like, yeah, Sam Bowie couldn't say healthy.
Speaker 1: There's all the NBA histories littered with guys who couldn't
Speaker 1: say healthy. It's not just now. It just kind of
Speaker 1: feels crazy this well, Sam Booie there was you know,
Speaker 1: he kept breaking his leg and it was no matter
Speaker 1: what happened to him, it just felt like he was cursed.
Speaker 1: He was he was spindling. He was he was built
Speaker 1: like a thoroughbread. He had legs like a thoroughbread. Who
Speaker 1: is that guy who you covered in the draft who
Speaker 1: you knew at bad knees and couldn't make it. Who's
Speaker 1: a really good player, Brandon Roy. Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of guys who still get hurt. Yeah, but these are
Speaker 1: things where a groin or a hamstring to me that
Speaker 1: I don't think you're in shape. And Lebron has invested
Speaker 1: in this. He you know, he's put his money there
Speaker 1: to be. Jordan's the first to do it. You know,
Speaker 1: Jordan hired a personal trainer. This is after they you know,
Speaker 1: the Pistons roughed him up, and then he decided he
Speaker 1: was going to have his own gym, and he had
Speaker 1: his own trainer, Tim Grover, and he changed. He changed.
Speaker 1: There's there's a couple of athletes who have really changed
Speaker 1: their sport. Martina Navratalova changed the sport. It wasn't a
Speaker 1: let me stand at the baseline and look cute on power.
Speaker 1: I'm coming after you. I'm coming to the net. I'm
Speaker 1: working out. Uh. She famously worked out with Nancy Lieberman,
Speaker 1: great baske ball player, and really transformed her body. Where
Speaker 1: now we look at tennis players, they're athletes. It's not
Speaker 1: you know, it's not one of those that I'm I'm
Speaker 1: going to play tennis on Sunday afternoon at the club.
Speaker 1: You got athletes are out there. And Jordan did this
Speaker 1: with basketball. You never lifted weights. And I think with
Speaker 1: today's athlete, you know, are they pacing themselves? And we've
Speaker 1: allowed that to happen. This sport has allowed that to happen.
Speaker 1: Even baseball, you know we five innings? My god, I
Speaker 1: got five innings out of my starter. How many complete games,
Speaker 1: nine inning complete games have been thrown this year the
Speaker 1: entire league. Yeah, I'm guessing Jacob deGrom probably has a
Speaker 1: majority of those, but the entire sport of baseball? Do
Speaker 1: you have twenty complete games? I would take the under Yeah,
Speaker 1: give me a second, right, So what kind of pull
Speaker 1: question you got, Nicklevin? By the way, you know there,
Speaker 1: I guess they're going to Are they instituting a new
Speaker 1: role or is this the same rule that Baseball's had
Speaker 1: with doctoring a baseball because it feels like it's been
Speaker 1: on the books here and it felt like the Mothership
Speaker 1: had breaking news that Jeff Passon had found out that
Speaker 1: they're going to it's a ten day suspension if they
Speaker 1: find that you have anything, A pitcher has anything that
Speaker 1: he's using any kind of substance with pay. By the way,
Speaker 1: ten days, not ten games and with pay. Wow, they're
Speaker 1: cracking down. Do not mess with the Baseball Players Association. Yes,
Speaker 1: if you get caught cheating, we're sending you on vacation
Speaker 1: and we're paying for it. Now you take that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope you learned your less as I did. I did.
Speaker 1: That's a take ten days off, keep your pay to
Speaker 1: take ten days off. Yes, it's just the shame that
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to live with. Shame, shame. Maybe they
Speaker 1: should do that. If you get caught in the four
Speaker 1: they shame you out of the ball bar, everybody sham
Speaker 1: end of the bullpen, shame yes time. And you're not
Speaker 1: gonna miss one start. You're probably gonna miss two starts,
Speaker 1: which up ten days. Yes, m yeah, go down to
Speaker 1: Cabo and think about what you yea, yes yeah. That
Speaker 1: rule h ten game suspension has been in play for
Speaker 1: over one hundred years. They're in the original rules of
Speaker 1: baseball that were well over one hundred years ago were written.
Speaker 1: No players show intentionally discolor or damage the ball by
Speaker 1: rubbing it with soil, rosin, paraffin, licorice, sand paper, emory paper,
Speaker 1: and other foreign substances. The umpire that that should tell
Speaker 1: you how old this is. This this is in the
Speaker 1: new role. Licorice. It looks like three fingers brown. It's
Speaker 1: got licorice on this ball. During probition, we'll have no
Speaker 1: doctor in the baseball. The umbuyers shall demand the ball
Speaker 1: and remove the offender from the game, and the offender
Speaker 1: shall be suspended automatically for ten games. Okay, this isn't
Speaker 1: a new rule. There's there's nothing to see here. It's
Speaker 1: ten days and you get paid. Wow, that's a deterrent
Speaker 1: wasn't the first time you got caught with steroids? Was
Speaker 1: it like three game suspension or did you get a
Speaker 1: warning now you stopped taking? Hey, you stop that, Get
Speaker 1: that syringe out of your arm right now, right now.
Speaker 1: Check on them in club and let me know if
Speaker 1: But wasn't. It didn't start out like you know, we're gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, verbally spank you and that's it, or three
Speaker 1: games or something and that's five or something. I can't
Speaker 1: get past here of Mordecai three fingers brown reference. That's
Speaker 1: a ped to have only three figures a spin. You
Speaker 1: could get on that. Yeah, yeah, licorice? He got some
Speaker 1: liquorice on there? Is that licorice on there? Yes it is.
Speaker 1: You're gone ten days with pay? What are you in for? Licorice?
Speaker 1: Like a baseball prison where you go in there? What
Speaker 1: are you in there for? Hardcourt steroids? What are you
Speaker 1: in here for? I was taking some speed and what
Speaker 1: are you in here for? I put some liquorice on
Speaker 1: a baseball and I'm gonna do it again. Don't mess him.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna break out of here after ten days. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tunnel my way out of here. Who's with me?
Speaker 1: Where's three fingers Brown? All right, let me take a break.
Speaker 1: Mike Florio is going to join us. I'm a little
Speaker 1: disappointed in our brethren because the Aaron Rodgers situation, it
Speaker 1: just brings out these breathless reports. How is this fixable?
Speaker 1: Will he not play in twenty twenty one? I just
Speaker 1: figured let me have Florio on and he might be
Speaker 1: a buzz kill because you know, we want to keep
Speaker 1: this story going. But I'm just curious. Aaron Rodgers under
Speaker 1: contract and it doesn't feel like packers are trading him
Speaker 1: and he can't trade himself, so you want to sit
Speaker 1: out and not play? Is that where we're headed? Is
Speaker 1: that what all of this is based on? Because I
Speaker 1: don't know if Aaron Rodgers is going to be any
Speaker 1: other place than Green Bay. Foyo Joints is coming up next.
Speaker 1: We'll settle on a pole question. Glad to have you
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Speaker 1: set the over under at twenty complete games in baseball
Speaker 1: so far this season. Pauli said he'd take the under.
Speaker 1: It's a team eighteen complete games so far in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one. We'll settle on a pole question. Did we
Speaker 1: settle on a pole question? McLeman? Wow for mister Florio.
Speaker 1: Will Aaron Rodgers be undersetter for the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 1: a week ard? Every three weeks we throw it up
Speaker 1: there to see where people are. I know, yeah, I would.
Speaker 1: I would guess today's results would be different than three
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Do you want to give odds here, Paulie,
Speaker 1: because I'd maintain all along. Aaron Rodgers is in Green
Speaker 1: Bay to start this season barring injury right where. He's
Speaker 1: a scheduled Day one starter for the Packers barring massive injury. Yes,
Speaker 1: I would bet a thousand to anyone's five hundred, A
Speaker 1: thousand to five hundred, yeah, anybody? All right? Let me
Speaker 1: see if Florio wants a piece of that. He's got money,
Speaker 1: Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live joining us. Now you
Speaker 1: want to jump in on this, Mike, No, No, I don't.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I have money is I don't
Speaker 1: waste on gambling. Look. I go back and forth on
Speaker 1: this too. It's a beautiful mystery. It's what Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: wants us to think, he wants to not know. I
Speaker 1: think the Packers, specifically the CEO Mark Murphy, doesn't want
Speaker 1: him to show up. I think he's daring him to
Speaker 1: not show up. I think that's the only way to
Speaker 1: make sense of that gratuitous for Mark he made last week,
Speaker 1: calling him a complicated fella. I think Murphy would rather
Speaker 1: move on with Jordan Love save thirty five million dollars
Speaker 1: in salary, and they would get bonus money back from
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. They don't have to worry about him playing
Speaker 1: for the Broncos or anyone else and making them look stupid. Now,
Speaker 1: they could trade him after the season, but I think
Speaker 1: at this point, Murphy, you attached him to a lot
Speaker 1: of detector tests. He'd have to say, yeah, I'd rather
Speaker 1: the guy, and I'll show up this year. And maybe
Speaker 1: maybe that vibe makes Aaron Rodgers more determined to show up.
Speaker 1: But you want to trade him, don't you to get
Speaker 1: something for him? So you wouldn't You wouldn't do anything now,
Speaker 1: you would wait until after the season. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: at this point, you get more after the season, you
Speaker 1: get more teams to the table. Be like Hayton Manning
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, you'd have ten teams. I think he'd
Speaker 1: easily have ten after the season. Right now, you got
Speaker 1: the Broncos, maybe the Raiders, maybe the Raiders. The Raiders
Speaker 1: saying all the right things about Derek Carr. But if
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers becomes available and you're looking at him going
Speaker 1: to the Broncos, how do you well, he's not make
Speaker 1: a phone call if for no reason other than to
Speaker 1: drive up the price the Broncos have to pay. But
Speaker 1: after the season, when we have another I was gonna
Speaker 1: say two hundred and fifty six, it's now two hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy two games, teams will look at their quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and said, got to get rid of that guy. Oh,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is available, Let's go get in line and
Speaker 1: try to get him. Yeah. I'm just trying to understand
Speaker 1: the timing of all to this, Mike, that if you're Rogers,
Speaker 1: give me Rogers side of this, that what is the
Speaker 1: end game for him this year? Well? I find it
Speaker 1: fascinating Dan. The guys like James Jones who played with
Speaker 1: Rogers still talk to Rogers, and more importantly, Rogers still
Speaker 1: talks to them after they do media and say what
Speaker 1: Rogers has said. I think Rogers he is doing a
Speaker 1: little puppet mastery through guys like James Jones. He says
Speaker 1: it's fixable, it's fixable, Well, okay, then then fix it.
Speaker 1: Tell us what it's going to take to fix it.
Speaker 1: What does it take? I don't know. And as I
Speaker 1: told you on Friday, I think this is a high
Speaker 1: States pr battle where each side is trying to make
Speaker 1: the other side look like the bad guy. And I
Speaker 1: just think right now, Aaron Rodgers wants to create chaos.
Speaker 1: What was the line from one of the Batman movies.
Speaker 1: Some men just like to see the world burn. I
Speaker 1: think that Rogers is just trying to make the front
Speaker 1: office of the Packers burn. It's one thing that he
Speaker 1: says he loves everything about Green Bay. He loves the tradition,
Speaker 1: he loves the fans, he loves the coaching staff, he
Speaker 1: loves his teammates. So one, if you don't like somebody
Speaker 1: in management, and if it is fixable, then what is
Speaker 1: it that needs to be fixed? Is what I want
Speaker 1: to know, because you can't undraft Jordan Love. That's not
Speaker 1: fixable unless you say we're going to trade him and
Speaker 1: they don't want to do that. Here's your poll question
Speaker 1: for today, Yes or no? Is there someone in management
Speaker 1: at your workplace that you hate overwhelmingly? Yes? And you
Speaker 1: still show up every days. So and it's not like
Speaker 1: he has to deal with Mark Murphy in the locker room.
Speaker 1: And I would advise Mark Murphy and Bryan Goudicoints to
Speaker 1: avoid the locker room in the practice field this year
Speaker 1: unless they're gonna work cups. But yeah, you're there with
Speaker 1: your teammates, you're there with your head coach, you're there
Speaker 1: for the fans. I just the whole thing is is
Speaker 1: pr driven and who knows what Aaron Rodgers wants, And
Speaker 1: that's what he wants. He wants us talking about it,
Speaker 1: and he wants to reserve the right to say why
Speaker 1: are you talking about it? Yeah, but I don't know
Speaker 1: what the endgame is Mike. Does he is he willing
Speaker 1: to sit out and not play football this year? Does
Speaker 1: he want to be traded? Like at some point you
Speaker 1: have to get to Now, let's sit down and discuss
Speaker 1: what's going to happen here? Is he just going to
Speaker 1: show up and play football this year and act as
Speaker 1: if none of this happened. I thought for a long
Speaker 1: time that that's what he would do, Dan, that he
Speaker 1: would show up and basically says, what's the big deal
Speaker 1: is there? You know a booker that I'm unaware of?
Speaker 1: Why is everyone looking at me? And act like it's
Speaker 1: a media creation? Because it always is our fault. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they create the template that we react to, and it's
Speaker 1: our fault for reacting to it. But I just really
Speaker 1: truly don't know, and I change my mind all the time,
Speaker 1: and I think I am am a victim of what
Speaker 1: he's trying to create. It would be very easy for
Speaker 1: him to say what he wants, how he wants it.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to Packers fans get upset with me,
Speaker 1: or more accurately, Aaron Rodgers fans get upset with me
Speaker 1: when I say he should tell people what he wants. No,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to, But when you don't, you create
Speaker 1: these situations where we end up obsessing over what the
Speaker 1: guy wants because for whatever reason, he won't tell us
Speaker 1: what he wants. He's like Florio. Pro Football Talk Live
Speaker 1: co host with Chris Simms, You've got went less than
Speaker 1: two weeks for the veterans to show up two weeks today.
Speaker 1: What's going to happen with to Shaun Watson? Is he
Speaker 1: eligible to show up for training camp? This is a
Speaker 1: great question that has taken a back seat to the
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers drama. And Nick Kissario, the GM of the Texans,
Speaker 1: was on radio in Houston yesterday and he said, what
Speaker 1: the talking points have been for weeks now, They're not
Speaker 1: saying anything about Watson, etc. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the answer, he said, as we get close to training camp,
Speaker 1: will make the best decision that we can in the
Speaker 1: interest of the Houston Texans. Dan, I think that the
Speaker 1: Texans have been hoping, and I know that the Texans
Speaker 1: have been hoping that the twenty two lawsuits pending against
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson would be settled, because if they're settled, you're
Speaker 1: able to trade Watson and you're able to get a
Speaker 1: lot for him in tray. That's the thing that teams
Speaker 1: are waiting to have goal way if they can properly
Speaker 1: resolve the cases. And I've been an advocate of Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson facing the music, having his reckoning, making these twenty
Speaker 1: two individuals feel like they've gotten justice, had their quasi
Speaker 1: day in court, write the check and move on with
Speaker 1: your life, and then he can be traded. There's a
Speaker 1: possibility that the Texans are gonna have to make a
Speaker 1: decision without the cases being settled. What do you do
Speaker 1: with DeShawn Watson as training camp arrives. Do you trade
Speaker 1: him for whatever you can get, which is a lot
Speaker 1: less if the twenty two cases are pending, or do
Speaker 1: you let him show up because I think you will
Speaker 1: show up because if it gets put them a paid leave,
Speaker 1: which people think will happen, Texans have to pay ten
Speaker 1: million dollars to not play for them this year. So
Speaker 1: I think for the Texans, they have to ask, if
Speaker 1: the cases aren't settled, do we just take whatever we
Speaker 1: can get bargain basement deal to trade Watson? Or do
Speaker 1: we run the risk of paying him ten minim and
Speaker 1: the other side of it too. And Sis and I
Speaker 1: were talking about this earlier to day. At some point
Speaker 1: the league, I think, oh, is it to Watson, the
Speaker 1: Texans and any team that would want to trade for Watson?
Speaker 1: To get people an inkling of what they're thinking, are
Speaker 1: you putting on paid leave? You know, they had a
Speaker 1: lot of uncertainly with Antonio Brown two years ago. They
Speaker 1: wouldn't tell teams what they were going to do, and
Speaker 1: then no one would touch him with this. He's under contract,
Speaker 1: He's getting ten million this year from somebody. I think
Speaker 1: they should let the irrelevant people know what they're going
Speaker 1: to do so people can make their their best decisions
Speaker 1: about what they're going to do moving forward. The most
Speaker 1: interesting training camps will be where well, obviously green Back.
Speaker 1: I mean that that's a giving whether Rogers is there
Speaker 1: or not there. It's either gonna be Rogers and you know,
Speaker 1: making his passive aggressive comments and then getting mad when
Speaker 1: people point out that he's made passive aggressive comments, which
Speaker 1: I always like, Seattle is going to be compelling because
Speaker 1: yeah he did. Did you hear Russell Wilson never asked
Speaker 1: for a trade. Now we didn't have to. He went
Speaker 1: on your show and he made it clear he wants out,
Speaker 1: and the agent comes out and says, well, my client
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be trained, but in the event that
Speaker 1: you're trained, these are the four teams he played for.
Speaker 1: Of course, he was disgruntled and unhappy. He was miserable
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl watching Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: How's that gonna go? Are they able to set all
Speaker 1: that aside and easy on board with the Shane Waldron offense?
Speaker 1: And you know the Jaguars training camp just for shared
Speaker 1: tament purposes with Tim Tebow and the college approach that
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer is bringing to town. Is that gonna work?
Speaker 1: So you know, there's always that short list of must
Speaker 1: see training camps that obviously never end up being the
Speaker 1: subject of hard knots, But I wish they would. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me you touched on Tim Tebow. I thought he
Speaker 1: was going to be a big distraction. We haven't had
Speaker 1: that distraction with Tim Tebow. When is that going to happen? Well,
Speaker 1: they've kept him from talking to reporters, and I'm not
Speaker 1: up on the rules of when accesses mandatory in the offseason.
Speaker 1: Once you get into the regular season, everyone's got to
Speaker 1: be available at least once during the week and after
Speaker 1: each game. But the weirdest things happened, Dan. There's been
Speaker 1: at least two straight Urban Meyer press conferences and the
Speaker 1: folks covering the Jaguars haven't asked about tea Boat just
Speaker 1: haven't asked about him. And I get the impression locally.
Speaker 1: They've gotten used to it, and that's helped this kind
Speaker 1: of not be a factor. He's just kind of going
Speaker 1: about his business. And I don't know, are they getting
Speaker 1: the vibe that Meyer doesn't want to be asked about him?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he's there. They're selling jerseys and
Speaker 1: he's quietly learning the tight end position. I still think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be on the team this year. They're gonna
Speaker 1: find a way to get him on the team. On
Speaker 1: the field catching one yard touchdown palaces, throwing one yard
Speaker 1: touchdown passes, or having one yard rushing touchdowns. It'll be awesome.
Speaker 1: It'll be awesome. That's another cottage industry. Do you realize
Speaker 1: the cottage industries we have in our world? And I
Speaker 1: love them, Like Aaron Rodgers, that's a cottage industry that
Speaker 1: the story about those covers the stories. Lebron is a
Speaker 1: cottage industry. Tom Brady is a cottage industry. There's certain
Speaker 1: guys that you have. I mean, the Mothership has moved
Speaker 1: people around from city to city to cover Lebron. James, yea, hey,
Speaker 1: we want you to relocate to Los Angeles to cover Lebron.
Speaker 1: It's pretty it's pretty crazy. Dan. People ask me why
Speaker 1: do I keep writing and talking about Aaron Rodgers. Easy response.
Speaker 1: I am a businessman. I have access real time to
Speaker 1: my traffic. I see which stories people read. I give
Speaker 1: the people what they want. Isn't it funny? In this business,
Speaker 1: You've got the people who give the fans and the
Speaker 1: readers what they want, and then you've got the people
Speaker 1: who give them what they think they should want, and
Speaker 1: those are the ones that don't stay in business. It's
Speaker 1: that simple. I'll check back in with you soon, Mike.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bud. That's Mike Flord Pro Football Talk Live
Speaker 1: co host. It's just when somebody comes on the air
Speaker 1: and it's just that can this be fixed? In Green Bay?
Speaker 1: How can it be fixed? When will it be fixed?
Speaker 1: Is it over for Aaron Rodgers? Will he retire to
Speaker 1: take the Jeopardy job? I'm like, is Rogers gonna walk
Speaker 1: away from all this money? He's made a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna walk away and just sit? I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna play. Yes. See, you're supposed to say, We'll
Speaker 1: tell you why Aaron Rodgers is walking away from thirty
Speaker 1: five million dollars next right after this. Yes, you have
Speaker 1: to pretend to have an answer to something unanswerable and
Speaker 1: then not answer at the next segment. That's the move Dan. Yes,
Speaker 1: Florio has this Aaron Rodgers puppetmaster. He's in the Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers is manipulating everybody kind of yes, with school there's
Speaker 1: like a multiple schools on how you approach this. And
Speaker 1: he kind of thinks Rodgers is brilliant, which I kind
Speaker 1: of like. I see that as a compelling argument. What
Speaker 1: is he getting out of this? I have no idea.
Speaker 1: If you tell me that's why he did it, that's
Speaker 1: all I want to know. Okay, what needs to be fixed?
Speaker 1: It's fixable according to his former teammate, But what is
Speaker 1: it that has to be fixed? I'd be curious about that. Well,
Speaker 1: Florida is saying it's almost for his own entertainment or
Speaker 1: amusement to see everybody scramble without real facts. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. But maybe Rogers. You know,
Speaker 1: he's got a different side. He's kind of a funny guy.
Speaker 1: Is it possible he could end this all tomorrow by
Speaker 1: saying something? But I don't wait. You think he's just
Speaker 1: sitting back going. I think maybe he's enjoying this to
Speaker 1: some extent. Maybe that's just take. I completely agree with that.
Speaker 1: I don't think Aaron Rodgers a guy who needs attention
Speaker 1: or needs headlines, but I think he enjoys being the
Speaker 1: puppeteer of the media. I think he's sitting back with
Speaker 1: a drink in his hand, watching first take or something,
Speaker 1: going look at this and how wrong they are, and
Speaker 1: he enjoys. Not what do you get out of that? Oh,
Speaker 1: like just snarky entertainment? Yes? No, no, remember relaxed r
Speaker 1: A l X, Thank you Mclub. It does seem like
Speaker 1: a lot of work just for mere entertainment of a
Speaker 1: professional quarterback, Like, yes, has he or his agent been
Speaker 1: asked straight up what needs to be fixed? Well, no
Speaker 1: one's allowed to ask that question. Is No one's running
Speaker 1: down Rogers. He stays in the basement of his house.
Speaker 1: Nobody's been around him. But someone's got to be able
Speaker 1: to ask the mark Rogers or the agent the question
Speaker 1: or get a note to him. And then if he
Speaker 1: doesn't respond, that's one thing, But I don't know how
Speaker 1: if it's not they're not responding. And Rogers when he
Speaker 1: was on with Kenny Maine, I guess Kenny asked him,
Speaker 1: but he chose not to answer that he was on
Speaker 1: Sports Center Live and that he could have cleared up
Speaker 1: anything he wanted to hit open rain. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Mark Rogers, is Russell Wilson's ASA, right, and David is
Speaker 1: I think that's what Todd said, is it? I dope
Speaker 1: it's a Rodgers kid of you? Is that? Is that why?
Speaker 1: But the agent still needs David? Yeah, but the agents
Speaker 1: usually don't. Maybe that's why we haven't gotten Aaron Rodgers on.
Speaker 1: You keep saying to Mark Rodgers, is Aaron available? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it's funny. The ages ages never really
Speaker 1: except for Drew Rosenhouse speak publicly. I'd love to hear
Speaker 1: what Aaron Rodgers agent has to say here. Well, you're
Speaker 1: seeing the spin with Russell Wilson that you know he
Speaker 1: didn't want out, but if you were going to trade him,
Speaker 1: he had four teams to go to. Nothing to see here.
Speaker 1: Everything's good and Russ seems to be happy there. They
Speaker 1: whatever they needed to fix they fixed. Because Russ didn't
Speaker 1: ask for a trade. Uh, Seattle wasn't going to trade him.
Speaker 1: They fixed it. I don't know what Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 1: asking for, and I don't know if it's fixable because
Speaker 1: if your feelings were hurt, he told that to us.
Speaker 1: Draft night, He's watching the Packers draft his replacement, and
Speaker 1: they didn't tell him. Buccaneers said to Tom Brady, we're
Speaker 1: going to draft Kyle Trask. They at least gave him
Speaker 1: a heads up. Now, granted, he's what six years older
Speaker 1: than Aaron Rodgers, not a first round pick either, but
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the Buccaneers said, oh, well, we don't
Speaker 1: want to do that to Tom. We should at least
Speaker 1: give him a heads up. Here, Aaron didn't get the
Speaker 1: heads up. That's not fixable because I truly think this
Speaker 1: management wants to move on to Jordan's Love. And if
Speaker 1: they get one more year out of Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 1: Jordan Love gets to absorb the system, then they're going
Speaker 1: to be in a better situation salary cap wise. You know,
Speaker 1: do they lose one of the great quarterbacks of all time? Yes,
Speaker 1: But it feels like they're letting the fans know, look
Speaker 1: at what we deal with, and so you you kind
Speaker 1: of curry favor with the fan base to go, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, we loved him, but you know what, you're
Speaker 1: almost preparing the fan base for. He's not going to
Speaker 1: be here. He's choosing the you know, someplace else. He
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be here. This isn't fixable, yeah, point,
Speaker 1: And like you said, they were in a position probably
Speaker 1: where they thought they would do this a year ago
Speaker 1: or this year. But Rogers is too good. The team's
Speaker 1: too good that they're too close to contending. They are contenders, obviously,
Speaker 1: one of the three best teams in the NFC, so
Speaker 1: they had to delay their plan a year. All it
Speaker 1: is is the Packers bet against Aaron Rodgers. Let's get plain.
Speaker 1: Is simple, because if he had an MVP season, they
Speaker 1: wouldn't have drafted a quarterback. If they went seven and
Speaker 1: nine last year, then he's not your quarterback. They would
Speaker 1: have traded him and Jordan Love would probably be your guy,
Speaker 1: or you'd have a bridge quarterback. It's just put up
Speaker 1: an incredible season and they bet against that happening, and
Speaker 1: now they find him in a situation that's supposedly fixable.
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Speaker 1: hour with his book as well. Tom and Iowa joins us. Now, Hi, Tom,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Well, good morning, five nine
Speaker 1: one seventy. I have a take on is Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: that nobody's talking but the most route of manaster you read,
Speaker 1: not afford to retire. And it has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with money. If you're dating a very successful actress. Part
Speaker 1: of the allure of being Aaron Rodgers, his league MVP,
Speaker 1: perennial contender for a title, all this. I don't think
Speaker 1: that in his selfness, his selfishness, his eagle will allow
Speaker 1: him to retire for a chance he may lose her,
Speaker 1: not saying she's shallow, but part of that whole package
Speaker 1: is that. And if he becomes a retired football player,
Speaker 1: well that changes the whole dynamics of the relationship, no
Speaker 1: matter how much money he had. Well, thank you, Tom.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Shaleene Woodley is hanging on to
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers while he still plays and if he retires
Speaker 1: that somehow she'll move on to somebody else. I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Yes, not that Tom and Iowa tipped his
Speaker 1: hand too much on which way he's leaning on that,
Speaker 1: But if I can recap that call correctly, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is selfish and his future wife is shallow back to you,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't made up his mind about I'm not
Speaker 1: really sure how I feel about it, but it's selfish
Speaker 1: ego and she's pretty shallow. So yeah, not that I'm
Speaker 1: saying that, but no, yea. She does add a bizarre
Speaker 1: element to this because they met to an astrologer, right,
Speaker 1: Isn't that the story? That's a published report? So it
Speaker 1: makes you think that he's into some sort of Hollywood Jeopardy.
Speaker 1: There's so much in this. Yeah, we haven't even mentioned
Speaker 1: Jeopardy of weeks, have we. I don't think he's getting
Speaker 1: the Jeopardy job, and just I'm just saying astrologer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they Aaron Rodgers in California. People do weird things out there,
Speaker 1: is our listeners. Now, Yeah, but maybe maybe he's puppeteering this.
Speaker 1: Maybe we could sell you on this that this is
Speaker 1: all just entertainment. Is he that bored? He's got a
Speaker 1: fiance like you've been traveling? He like, he's like, man, uh,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of bored with Hylene. Let me see I
Speaker 1: can whip up some drama here in Green Bay. Ah,
Speaker 1: this is so much fun. Like I don't, I just don't.
Speaker 1: That doesn't strike me as what Aaron Rodgers is. He's
Speaker 1: got that golf match that's coming up in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. I don't. Well, it seems like he's doing okay.
Speaker 1: He's made over two hundred million dollars, got a place
Speaker 1: in Malibu. He's engaged, but not engaged with the packers. Yes,
Speaker 1: but he wants to be working because his future wife
Speaker 1: is gonna be on set, traveling doing all her things.
Speaker 1: You gotta be working. He can't be one of those
Speaker 1: guys sit around the trailer on set. I get. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just can't imagine that he's he's so
Speaker 1: diabolical that he's creating this. We'll set a lot of
Speaker 1: pull question more phone calls, get to those game five
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