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Speaker 1: Dan Pitcher, lou Anarumo, and Darren Simmons on six of

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Speaker 1: the most important questions facing the Bengals when training Camp

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Speaker 1: Turtle Soup. The Bengals held their annual pre training camp

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Speaker 1: media luncheon on Monday, an event that is affectionately known

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Speaker 1: as the Turtle Soup Luncheon among veteran Cincinnati reporters. That's

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Speaker 1: because since the early days of the franchise, when team

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Speaker 1: founder Paul Brown presided over the festivities at the downtown

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Speaker 1: Queen City Club, the appetizer has always, and I mean

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Speaker 1: always been mock turtle soup. If you've never had it,

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Speaker 1: there's no turtle meat. The key ingredients are ground beef, veal,

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Speaker 1: ketchup eggs, Worcester sauce, and lemon. It apparently used to

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Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds. Would I order it in a restaurant, doubtful,

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Speaker 1: But I happily consume a small cup every July, knowing

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Speaker 1: Now time to look at some key topics that were

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Speaker 1: discussed at this year's luncheon. When training camp begins on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: I'll be sharing my five observations on Twitter or x

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Speaker 1: if you prefer, at the end of every practice. In

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Speaker 1: six important questions facing the Bengals at training camp. Number one,

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Speaker 1: the status of Joe Burrow. Zach Taylor told reporters on

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Speaker 1: Today I asked team president Mike Brown for his opinion.

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Speaker 1: When you watched Joe Burrow this spring? Did he look

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Speaker 2: I thought he looked up to speed, He was at

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Speaker 2: From what I saw, he threw the ball with zip,

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Speaker 1: Joe has stated publicly that he has learned from previous

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Speaker 1: be proactive building days off into Joe's schedule to essentially

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Speaker 3: How much is Joe starting to look like Joe again?

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Speaker 3: I've only seen him physically walking down a Hallway. So

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen him throw yet, but you know, everything

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Speaker 1: In fairness to Zach, Burrow's health has been a big factor.

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Speaker 1: But there will clearly be an emphasis at this camp

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Speaker 4: I just think we're we're aware of it, you know,

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Speaker 5: It's all what you emphasize every single day, and attacking

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Speaker 5: Every year we prepare to win the first game of

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Speaker 5: So yeah, we think about it, we talk about it,

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Speaker 1: Actions speak louder than words. And for the first time

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Speaker 3: But you choose to do two joint practices just the

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Speaker 3: I think it's a great opportunity, not only to practice

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Speaker 2: The right time.

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Speaker 1: Joint practices are intense and competitive and should help the

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Speaker 1: drama despite no deals. It's no secret the t Higgins

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Speaker 3: Te's character has shown brightly the four years he's been here.

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Speaker 5: There's no bigger t Higgins fan than me. I've seen

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Speaker 1: As for Hendrickson, he's coming off of seventeen and a

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Speaker 4: He's had a great offseason. Like a lot of our guys,

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Speaker 4: him tell you that. But he's a great player.

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Speaker 1: Trey is among the best pass rushers on the planet.

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Speaker 1: The hope at camp is that Sam Hubbard, Miles Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Now onto training camp. Topic number four the future of

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Speaker 1: Dax Hill. When he was drafted in the first round

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Speaker 1: working with cornerbacks coach Chuck Burks as he battles with

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Speaker 3: How do we help him reach his full potential? Because

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Speaker 1: Cornerbacks are susceptible to injury, and depth at the position

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Speaker 1: Following Burrow's wrist injury in mid November, Jake Browning kept

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Speaker 7: to paraphrase what he said, he said, we're going to

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Speaker 2: What we want to do.

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Speaker 7: How is an offensive coortin do you go about making

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Speaker 1: Dan Pitcher strikes me as being very Burrow like in

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Speaker 1: six and perhaps the most obvious roster battle this year,

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Speaker 1: the punt off between Brad Robbins and rookie Austin McNamara.

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Speaker 6: You have to go earn it again. And just like

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Speaker 6: I really like the things that Brad did. We identified

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Speaker 6: There's a lot also positive things that Austin does well too,

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Speaker 6: He's very advanced in terms of his understanding about that position,

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Speaker 1: So those are six important topics heading into camp. But

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Speaker 1: turtle soup luncheon. Last year, Joe Burrow injured his calf

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Speaker 2: I try to stay away enough that I don't get

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Speaker 2: I overstepped and did a dumb thing. I was convinced

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Speaker 2: I respect him, I like his family. I don't want

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Speaker 1: Here's hoping that Mike gets to watch a healthy Burrow

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