1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants of 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: crackheads in the ghetto Cutter the same as the rich 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: pill poppers in the penthouse. The Clearinghouse of Hot takes 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Maller starts right now, nine in the air Everywhere and 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Welcome in the Weekend is now underway. Another Pipe and 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: Hot addition of the Fifth Hour with Ben Mallard and 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: Danny g Radio fresh out of the Oven. I hope 11 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: you've had a wonderful week and you've enjoyed the shenanigans 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: on the Overnight Show, all the nonsense that has taken place. 13 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: We had the Great Game Show scandal involving Eddie Garcia 14 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: and Justin Cooper and we're still working through that on 15 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: the show. It was quite the week involving a regular caller, 16 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: Justin and Cincinnati in cahoots with Eddie and Cooper Loop 17 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: conspiring against me. But we're not here to talk about that. 18 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: This the Friday Podcast and opportunity realizing that on the 19 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: radio we have a format which does not lend itself 20 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: two interviews. I can come in early and tape a 21 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: bunch of interviews. I know some of my competitors do that, 22 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: but I don't want to do that. I don't want 23 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: to do taped radio. I don't want to take part 24 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: in that. Uh. It needs to be live. The podcast format, 25 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: which is obviously on demand, is a much different animal, 26 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: and that is the domain that we are in now. 27 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: And why not take advantage and schmooze with some of 28 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: our our friends who happened to be NFL typeside. Today 29 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: is an NFL there, and the last couple of weeks 30 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: have been NFL heavy weeks. It kind of pays the 31 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: bills around here, and we are very excited to welcome 32 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: for the first time to the Fifth Hour with Ben 33 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: Maller and Danny g Podcast. A living, breathing NFL insider. 34 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: You've heard him on Fox Sports Radio various shows over 35 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: the years. He hosts his own radio show. He's regularly 36 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: on NFL Radio on Sirius xmi's based in Philadelphia. Spent 37 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: a long time as an NFL guru at ESPN. He 38 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: has broken many a story over the years, some of 39 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: them big, some of them not so big. That's part 40 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: of the job. And so without further ado, that's welcome 41 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: in Adam Kaplan who joins us now on the podcast, 42 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: And Adam, I actually met you in Los Angeles at 43 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: Radio Row. That was my maiden voyage. We had not 44 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: met before my maiden voyage to the super Bowl. But 45 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: I know that's your domain, right, You're there all the time. Yeah, Ben, 46 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: gonna be with you. Yeah. Yeah. My first Super Bowl 47 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: it was out to the game was terrible. It was 48 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: the Bucks Raiders h It was awful. But the week 49 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: was phenomenal in San Diego. I have to say, if 50 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: all the Super Bowls have been to, it was the 51 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: best week. Obviously, you can't beat the weather. The stadium 52 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: was old, that's why they stopped having it there in 53 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: a while. Of the churches moved, but the week was fantastic. 54 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: You didn't as you know, Ben, anytime, you don't need 55 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: a car to get around this as well before Uber. 56 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: It's a good thing because all the events were handled 57 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: near the gas antistrict in downtown San Diego. Yeah for sure. 58 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: But just being part of that event was great and 59 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: meeting you and some of the other people that was 60 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: was wonderful. So you are an NFL insider. That is 61 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: a very cool title to have among other titles that 62 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: you own. Is this something that you set out to do, Adam, 63 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: or did you stumble into this type of job. Well, well, 64 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: it's funny. Ben. As far as the title, let me 65 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 1: just address this. I didn't want the title. They gave 66 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: it to me at the ESPN. We had to have 67 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: it because you know, in this business you have to 68 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: have some sort of title. I find it corny, but 69 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I understand. We for those of 70 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: us who cover the NFL full time for living, you're 71 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: gonna know some things that maybe the fan won't know, 72 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: or something that you know if you cover the entire league. 73 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: So maybe the the beg writer who's good may not 74 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: know certain things I know, And I get it. That's 75 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: just the way it is. So uh yeah. I started 76 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: covering league really in two thousand. From an injury standpoint, 77 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: I was known as one of the top injury and 78 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: ciders in the country, and then I just kind of 79 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: transferred into not just injuries, but contracts and hires and 80 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: firings and transactions and stuff like that. That's kind of 81 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: what happens when you cover the league from a national basis. 82 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: You know, I when I work for Fox Sports dot 83 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: Com for a year leaving up to the lockout eleven, 84 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was doing. So, yeah, that's what 85 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: I've done for the last twenty years or so. Is 86 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: there a golden rule to being an insiders? There is 87 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: there something that you follow? That's the secret? I would say, 88 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: Ben never stopped having a thirst for knowledge. You never 89 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: know as much as you think you know. And that's 90 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: kind of been a story of my career and why 91 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: I got into it because I growing up in Philly, 92 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: I just felt like I was not learning enough. I 93 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: want to know why did they Why did the Eagles 94 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: in this case? Does that's what I'm from that market? 95 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: Why did they sign that player? Why did they trade 96 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: that player? Why they cut that player? Why did the 97 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: coaches call that play? You know? Yes, I I handle 98 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: a lot of transactions and movement in the league, but 99 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: I also as a fan. I love the game. Ben, 100 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: A lot of reporters don't love the game unfortunately. They're 101 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: just they like doing it, but they don't love They 102 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: love covering the league, but they may not love football 103 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: as much as I do. Uh, And I wanted to 104 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: learn about how you put together game plan, Why did 105 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: you call that play? Why is that guy benched? That 106 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: was really the the I would say, the impetus and 107 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: one of the bigger reasons why I became someone who 108 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: was very interested covered the league. Was there a particular 109 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: Eagles team, Adam, that you fell in love with or 110 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: was just growing up you just watched the Eagles all 111 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: the time because you're from that area. Well, it's what's funny, 112 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: ben Is, and I think you noticed, as an NFL 113 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: fan and someone who's been observatively for for decades, just 114 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: because you grew up in an area doesn't mean you're 115 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: always a fan of that team and no matter what 116 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 1: support it is. Like in the NBA, I'm a Dallas 117 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: Mavericks fan. Although I love the Mavericks, also love the Sixers. 118 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: I actually was a Raider fan growing up in addition 119 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: to be an Eagles fan because I grew up here. 120 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Then at one point, you know they have to pick 121 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: sort of. You can't be a fan of two teams. 122 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: I think when you when you're a family of NFL team. 123 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: So I wanted more of an Eagle fan than a 124 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: season ticket holder. But then the thing What happens is 125 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: when you cover the league, you stop being a fan 126 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: and you wait. When you particularly when you cover all 127 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: thirty few teams, the fandom for rooting leaves you. I 128 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: don't what what Eagles do win or lose, does not 129 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: matter to me. It's just like that with all the 130 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: two teams. I root for coaches and executives to keep 131 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: their jobs. Is there's a lot of turnover, but it 132 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me who wins our loses. Now, are 133 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: you like me as a talk show host doing and 134 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: you do radio as well, but doing the overnight show, 135 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: I'm always looking for the story and I want the story. 136 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: I want the good talk radio. That's what I want. 137 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily care who wins or loses per se. 138 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: Obviously from you know, I gambled occasionally, so that from 139 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: that part of it, I care. But I just want 140 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: the great story to talk about. That's what I'm looking for. 141 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: I don't know all the other stuff like it's great 142 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: and all that, but I want to know this and 143 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: have you become that guy now, because that's you've been 144 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: the media a long time. That's when you know you've 145 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: crossed over when you're just going for the story. You 146 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: just want the story. Well, well, I'll be honest with you. 147 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: So over times in my career there's been reports that 148 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: I've had where maybe I under I underestimated that the 149 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: the magnitude of the story that I put out when 150 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: I worked at ESTN, I don't I don't really care 151 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: how big the story is. I'm just after the story, 152 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: the importance of it, because I know it's important to anyone. Uh. 153 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: We would drive stories by our reporting, no doubt about it. 154 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: But I wasn't worried about seeking my chest out. Wow, 155 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: I had a big story today. It was cool, but 156 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: it was just about the information, getting it out and 157 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: moving on to the next one. Now this week, you 158 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: know or recent stories that the Colin Murray contract fascinating 159 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: and I know you know on Fox Sports Radio you 160 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: guys been covering it. That's just fascinating to me that 161 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: that that's just very interesting. I've never heard of a 162 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: contract language. Because I've covered I specialize in contract reporting. 163 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: People follow my curb probably know this, and I've never 164 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: heard of language in there for making sure the player 165 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: of the quarterback studies. I remember heard anything like that. 166 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: And by the way, that's a major sports talk radio topic. 167 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: I get that as a sports talk radio host for 168 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: over well over twenty or almost twenty five. Yeah, I'm 169 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm big on big, natural stories like you are. It's 170 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: just you and I may see them differently. What's more 171 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: important to you? You might like if you're in, if 172 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: you're a hot take guy, you may find something that 173 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: somebody said that that has something new with the NFL 174 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: more of a hot tape where I look at it differently. Yeah. 175 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: The Kyler Moore Murray story is a ten I'm right, 176 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. It is fascinating, like if 177 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: you have an employee like I. I I look at it 178 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: like if I was running a business at him and 179 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: I had an employee that was not putting the right work, 180 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: and why would I give them this massive contract and that. 181 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: So it's like the Cardinals are doing two different things. 182 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: That they're rewarding Kyler Murray with this massive amount of 183 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: money the riches of Solomon, but at the same time 184 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: they were also admitting, you're not really doing what you're 185 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: supposed to be doing here. So it's very odd that 186 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: they would do that. Why do you think they went 187 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: down that road? Well, let's be honest about it. Then 188 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: I think you just hit on it. They they obviously 189 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: felt that they need to hold them accountable in some way. 190 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: Now a right, by the way, did not have to 191 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: agree to this, And by the way, the big thing 192 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: and we we should give a little to the teaching moment. 193 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: Tip study, which is the All twenty two is paramount 194 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: true quarterback development and Carler Burry, by the way, it's 195 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: been in solid quarterback, he's gotten bad. He struggled late 196 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: in the season because of the loss of DeAndre Hopkins. 197 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: That that could tell their offense. But yeah, it's certainly 198 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: not a great sign when you're when you were saying, okay, 199 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: if you want this deal, you have to greate a 200 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: certain amount of hours and the way we want it done. 201 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: Now we don't. Here's the question, Yes we don't. He 202 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: did tape study. But what did they not like in 203 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: his response to for instance, you know you go in, 204 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: you know quarterbacks go in. They watched the tape of 205 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: the coaches and then did he not have good recall? 206 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: Was he was? He fuzzy on some of the details. 207 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: So there's gotta be a reason. But I think you 208 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: hit on it. Why they felt they need to put 209 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: this in there and that's the point. Well, and getting 210 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: to the bottom of it though at them, because you know, 211 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: I saw earlier this week Cliff Kingsbury bunch of the 212 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: players and they're they're obviously towing the company line. They're 213 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: saying all the right things about Kyler, but clearly there's 214 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: a disconnect somewhere along the way. And I put him. 215 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: I talked about this on my show The the Night 216 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: that Kylie is one of these guys. And you see 217 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: this probably all the time being in locker rooms, Adam. 218 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys that play football that it's 219 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: not their passion, it's not their life's love. They just 220 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: happen to be good at it, or they can make 221 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: a lot of money at it. And I I put 222 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: Kyler in that category. I get the sense, if it 223 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: wasn't for his father and some of the people around him, 224 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: he'd be playing baseball right now, and if it was 225 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: up to him, he might just be playing video games. 226 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't know where football falls on the spectrum, but 227 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: I put him in that category. Is that a fair 228 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: statement of makers that unfair? Well, it's a little bit 229 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: unfair because we don't know exactly how much she puts 230 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: in or what is. Firstly, you would have to be 231 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: very close to his dad, by the way, has been 232 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: a coach, so obviously comes from a football background. We 233 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: know about the baseball in his background. But they want 234 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: to they won a way to make sure and it's 235 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: not like they're push him to study eighty hours a week. 236 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: They like they put a minimum of time in which 237 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: he is gonna do anyway. But I just I'm with you. 238 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: It is very curious why he and his agent and 239 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: another assignments which is fascinating. His agent, Arc Parker, also 240 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: represents the head coach, Cliff king Burr. It's just a 241 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: fascinating scenario for the quarterback in the head coach to 242 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: be working together and they have the same agent. Yeah, 243 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: well we I see that a lot in the media 244 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: business though, right, these guys that have the same agent, 245 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: good jobs and stuff like that. But I hear what 246 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: you're saying on that now. I'm gonna bring up to 247 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: Shawn Watson here, Adam, which is a dangerous point of 248 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: reference because at the time we're talking, uh, this has 249 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: not been adjudicated. There's a lot of chatter that something's 250 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: going to come down. So in the most general of 251 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: ways here is is the moment of reckoning, shall we say, 252 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 1: going to happen here in the next ten days, this 253 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: obviously airing on a Friday. So are we closing in 254 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: on this or is this just completely open ended? This 255 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: thing can drag into the regular season. I was told 256 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: by a very strongly source expected expector Sir Robins Sudden 257 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: before district to former federal judge it would take at 258 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: least two to three weeks for her to go over 259 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: both legal briefs from the nfl PA side and the 260 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: and the NFL side, because you remember, she's the one 261 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: who has to do it, and she has to make 262 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: your decision, and she's not gonna rush through it because 263 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of notes, there's a lot of information 264 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: given by both sides. But the source said it's a 265 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: recent expectation will take at least through to three weeks, 266 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: which means that the end of July is when we 267 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: could have an answer to answer your question. That's the 268 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: best I could get you, because that's what I was 269 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: told by so and I trust yeah. And there's been 270 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: all kinds of shatter and I'm sure you've seen it. 271 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: You've heard the same stuff I've heard everything from he's 272 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: gonna get suspended for the season two, he's gonna get 273 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: a very minimum suspension, and some saying he's not even 274 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: gonna be punished at all. Um, what have you heard 275 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: that you believe is the most credible regarding Deshaun Watson's punished. 276 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take I'm gonna take a little bit of 277 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: a different sway, but within what you're asking the way 278 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: that one attorney who's dealt with the NFL for years 279 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: explained to me. He goes, Look, if you look at 280 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: some of these penalties have been reduced over the years, 281 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: historical president matters. No matter how bad it looks for 282 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: Watson on the surface, if the the NFL P, particularly 283 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Kesler, who's the NFL's NFLPS attorney, who has won 284 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: so many casesn't done it. Some people have called a 285 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: Thornians on the against the NFL. For you, because he's 286 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: won a lot and he's had he's had companies reduced. 287 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: Kessler is a master at it. If if if he 288 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: could find a way to get the potential suspection reduced, well, 289 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: think of it this way. And this is also very 290 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: This is really interesting and important to note, and I 291 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: don't know why the nflp agreed to this, but if 292 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: there's if Sue Robinson recommends no games, it cannot be appealed. 293 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: If she recommends four six, eight ten, it absolutely can 294 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: be appealed. That's the key here is And remember, and 295 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: here's the key point that the appeals officer is the 296 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: commissioner where his designating and obviously that that question will 297 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: be severely biased towards the NFL. That's the part. I 298 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: don't understand why the why the NFL he would agree 299 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: to that, But if there are giftbacks and negotiations, that's 300 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: a massive giftback. So just tinking it this way, if 301 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: Watson gets suspended, there's a very good chance it could 302 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: be increased on decreased. But historically if he gets off 303 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: from from this, from the situation, it's it's going to 304 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: be because somehow, some way, Sir Robinson felt historical president 305 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: President was taken largely into account and quite frankly be 306 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: ignoring some very strong evidence that something occurred. Yeah, and 307 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: this is an unprecedented situation. I mean, guys have gotten 308 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: in trouble, right, we all know that over the years, 309 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: but the volume, the number accusers. So this is uncharted 310 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: water here for the NFL and and Roger Guido and 311 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: what and whatnot. So we'll see what happens with that. Now, 312 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson turned the page. You're Adam Lamar Jackson. I 313 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: heard from my buddy in Baltimore that said the Ravens 314 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: have offered Lamar Jackson the second largest amount of money 315 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL as far as quarterbacks are concerned, behind 316 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: the aforementioned Deshaun Watson. But he hasn't agreed to the contract. 317 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: And I don't know how much of that is actually 318 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: real money and how much of that is fake money, 319 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: and how much of how much of that is guaranteed 320 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: and whatnot. But if it doesn't get done, here does 321 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson enter free agencies. He's just gonna be franchise 322 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: tag year after year after year, like similar to Kirk 323 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: Cousins was in Washington years ago. Yeah, and here here's 324 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: the situation. So Kylin was kind of like with Kylin 325 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: Murray and the Cardinals did not have to do that deal. 326 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: They could have just waited and and had him. Now, 327 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: the difference is that remember Murray's drafted one year after Jackson. 328 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: But all they had to do is the Cardinals could 329 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: have tagged him. The Cardinals could have just simply rolled 330 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: over the fiftyear option, tagged him twice and had him 331 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: on a well plus the season for four years just 332 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: but they wanted they wouldn't direct by the player. Yes, 333 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: they got They got a huge break with the fully 334 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: guaranteed money. Now, if Jackson you mentioned this, the key 335 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: here is fully guaranteed money ex signing. Let's say let's 336 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: say a guarantee it's reported, and I you know I've 337 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: reported on a lot of these things. I can explain 338 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: to you. Let's say the total guarantees are hundred sixty million, 339 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: ninety million, hundred million fully guaranteed it signing, meaning if 340 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: they cut the player, they still own that money. The 341 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: rest of it, the rest of the guarantees, let's say 342 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: the rest of the six fifty million he has to 343 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: being a loster on the third year on the in 344 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: the third year on March did all that money becomes 345 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: fully guaranteed. So they're gonna cut them after you after 346 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: year two been if they don't think he plays well. 347 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: That's all you need to know. With all these contract negotiations. 348 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: It's not like n being a contracts and they have 349 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: so many rules. NFL contracts are very easy to explain. 350 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: And that's really it. And yes it's it's the fully 351 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: guaranteed money. It's signed because my understanding. Now here's the 352 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: other problem. He does not have an agent. This deal 353 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: would have been done last year. Trust me on that. 354 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: If he had any agent stunt quarterback deals, this would 355 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: have been done last year. And the Ravens won him. 356 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: They adore Lamar Jackson. He'll never walk, that's not gonna happen. 357 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: They wanted to be their guy and and don't forget 358 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: their offense starts with him, but with the run game. 359 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: That that's what people need to understand. But Adam. At 360 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: the same time, from a if you look at the 361 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: way Lamar Jackson plays, in the style of play, from 362 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: a team perspective, to go year to year would actually 363 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: probably be the better. It would be rude to Lamar, 364 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: but from the team's perspective, if you're the Ravens, wouldn't 365 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: you be better off doing that? Just saying all right, 366 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: this guy's he's a high risk guy to get hurt, 367 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: So we'll just go a year to year. We'll make 368 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: a ton of money each year. But that's it. We're 369 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: not gonna have a long term committment. No, they won't 370 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: do that. I mean no, no, I mean, look, here's 371 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: the deal. They want to get a deal done. They 372 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: know they have what's called the franchise marker. If they 373 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: need to use it, they could use it twice. They'd 374 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: rather not do at They'd rather like to take care 375 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: of him and not asking to do that. You know, 376 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: it's the one position in the NFL other than Kirk Cousins. 377 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: Are very few players, very few starting quarterbacks that don't 378 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: get that extension. The fact teams are doing it now 379 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: after the third year. That's the by the c b A. 380 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: That's that's you have to wait three years to to 381 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: extend a drafted player. They don't. They don't because he's 382 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: the face of the franchise. Teams are not waiting anymore. 383 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: They think it's really rude to be answered that. They 384 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: just don't think it's right as a leader to make 385 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: because it it's way too much heat on the club. 386 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: And by the way, when you do it early, you're 387 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: getting a huge break on the guarantees. That's that's the 388 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: thing that that fans don't understand. You to do this early. 389 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: You're you're getting get You're getting it, you're getting give 390 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: back from the agent. Okay, we'll still we'll extend you now, 391 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: but you're not getting a fully guaranteed contract. If you're 392 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: gonna do it this early. Now, where are you on 393 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: the sary count? You're the perfect guy to bring up 394 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: the Adam the sary cap. I talked about this all 395 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: the time. I'm a salary cap truther. I believe that 396 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: you can finagle the numbers with the salary cap. We've 397 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: seen the Rams do this. And every time I see 398 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: teams and say, wow, we can't come up with the 399 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: money when they release a player, I it reminds me 400 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: of my experience in the radio business, where if they 401 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: really want to keep somebody, they're gonna find the money. 402 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: And I think the same thing goes on in the NFL. 403 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: And it always bothers me when people call up radio 404 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: shows like what I do and say, wow, you know 405 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: they just can't afford the money. They gotta release this guy, 406 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: Like No, look at what the Rams have been able 407 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: to do. You can move the numbers around. That's always 408 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: been my belief on this. Where are you at on that? 409 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: Let me let me addrest the RAM situation, what they 410 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: actually did is they walked away from three or four players. 411 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: They have a cornervator run players are paying and that's 412 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 1: really it. The restaurant did the low level deals and 413 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: they they have their very poor depth at certain musicians. 414 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: As one one UH one team told me, he was 415 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: a ready taming the roster. They the Rams have made 416 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: it pretty clear how they're gonna win. We're gonna vo 417 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: with their court players. Pay those court players, like five 418 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: or six of them big time money, and that's it. 419 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: And they just don't. They just start willing to walk 420 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: away because they have to because you can't pay everybody. 421 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: See that's that's the thing that they're doing, which is 422 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: which is sort of different, sort of different, but not 423 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: that different. But you're right on manipulating the cat. What 424 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: you do is you just you kick the can down 425 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: the road. So many teams restructure, restructure, restructure. Now the 426 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: reason why teams think they're gonna get away with it, 427 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: not just the last but other teams. Then the cap 428 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: is gonna take a major jump in twenty three. This 429 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: is when the big new TV money hits is the 430 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: big number and that that's why you see teams massively 431 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: restructuring because they know the cap bumbers will go up, 432 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: but the coundt seller cap is gonna go up. So 433 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: you're right, No, they teams know this. There's a lot 434 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: of maneuverability within the cap. There are very few. Let 435 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: me make this perfectly clear because this on your questioning 436 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: your point, there are very few cap casualties. It's very 437 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: rare in today's NFL for team to walk away from 438 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: the player. That was different from when I when I 439 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: first started covering to the League of Night and in 440 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: two thousand, all sorts of cap casualists because the cap 441 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: is much more. Yeah, and speaking of quarterbacks getting paid, 442 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: you're in an interesting location there in the Philadelphia area 443 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts. I'm not convinced he's the guy. Other 444 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: people seemed to think he is the guy at him 445 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: so the Eagles if you look at his contract, this 446 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: is a big year for Jalen Hurts. Does he get 447 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: the next extension? Does he get the big extension or 448 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: do the Eagles go a different direction. First of all, 449 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: he's on a contract next year. This is third years, 450 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: four year deal, so they have to do anything. It 451 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: was not a first round pick so he just don't 452 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: have a fifth year option for him just to be 453 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: the starter next season. That not only really have to 454 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, he won't have to be a big 455 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: reason why. Whereas they won with him, they have to 456 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: be he had to bigger, be a big reason why 457 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: they want and he was not last year. Yes, he 458 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: was part of the run game, which was the best 459 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: of the National Folk League since Week six. But the 460 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is he's got to play better. 461 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: From a passing standpoint, it clearly was not good enough, 462 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: but they failed talking needles. They feel like then he 463 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: had a much better off season because he's in the 464 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: same offense for the first time in his football playing 465 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: care for for two years since early in high school. 466 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: But are the Eagles a legitimate good team? Were they 467 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: just a product of the schedule they played last year? Well, 468 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: it's funny, you're right. They had a very good schedule 469 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: and they got smoked by the Bucks in the playoffs. 470 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna give him credit was the next year on 471 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: his first season, they didn't have very good roster. Last season, 472 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: They've addressed just about every need in one way or 473 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: the other. They've got in the NFC a top four 474 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: top five roster. They're barring something unforeseen, there'll be a 475 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: wild card team and they could be the first team. Ben, 476 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: And this is an unbelievable stat which I find hard 477 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: to believe, but it's absolutely true. I've looked it up 478 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: several times just to make sure. We have not had 479 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: a winner in the NFC East in nineteen years since 480 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and four? Are Ben? He's nineteen years? Yes, 481 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: we needles went back to back to back championships. Oh 482 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: two or three or four? How is it possible when 483 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: you only four teams in that division? But it's true. Yeah, 484 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: not only that, but it seems like for stretches Washington, 485 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: the Giants have been terrible, the Cowboys mediocre for a while. 486 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: He speaking of the Cowboys of the Eagles win the division, 487 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: Does that mean Mike McCarthy is doing television next year? Yeah, yeah, 488 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: I know with Jason, I know it's hilarious. Look, everybody 489 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: knows that that Sean Payne is very close to Jerry Jones. 490 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: We all know that it's an ound secret that would 491 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: obviously be his number one candidate if if McCarthy's can. 492 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: But let me just say this about Jerry Jones, because 493 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: like Cowboys. People always remind me Jenny is actually very patient. 494 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: Remember how many times if the fans wanted Jason Garrett fired, 495 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: like it was like a three or four year period, 496 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: he just wouldn't fire him. And I mean finally did it, 497 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: which not that I wish anyone to be fired, but 498 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: by merit, by the team collapsing. It's it's tough to 499 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: coach with Jerry Jones. It's just because he's the other 500 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: flush general manager and he does embarrasce the coaches from 501 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: time and time. That's just the way it is. It's 502 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: hard to coach there. I know guys have worked there. 503 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: He just pay pretty well. But the thing is he 504 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: he he lets that coaches stay, but he will get 505 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: involved with coaches of assistance being let that that has 506 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: happened over time. But Jason Garrett was part of the family, 507 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: right Mike McCarthy, He's not really part of the family. 508 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: Isn't that the difference? Wouldn't that be the difference to 509 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: change coaches? Yeah, I mean maybe so, maybe so because 510 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: he played there, I get it. There may be some 511 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: truth to that. But then I'm telling you, Jerry's got 512 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: had a lot of patients for all the losing they've 513 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 1: had over the last twenty five years and SICH of 514 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,479 Speaker 1: not winning many playoff games. So they're not getting back 515 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl since nine. Area look to have 516 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: got one. As much as twy friends would like. They 517 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 1: draft pretty well. Uh, they have not developed the players 518 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: well enough, and that's certainly been an issue. Well, and 519 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: Jerry has been the master though of keeping the Cowboys 520 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: relevant in our business. Credible, He's a maestro. It's unbelievable 521 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: and we love it. No, we look, Look, he's a 522 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: human sound bite. He's the greatest. You never know what 523 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna say at this advanced stage. Well until the seventies. 524 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: Is son Stephen is a little bit most of date. 525 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: They're very interesting family, no question about it. And look, 526 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: there's never don't know when a big d I look 527 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: forward hopefully to go to ox Dart soon to visit 528 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and uh that's always a fun camp because 529 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: there's always some kind of side story with the Cowboys 530 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: typically been of waiting too long to extend contracts. That's 531 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: yet another issue that Cowboys have had over the years. Well, 532 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: moving on from the Cowboys, Bill Belichick did something that 533 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: is seemingly out of character. This week he was buttering 534 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: the biscuits of Mac Jones. Uh, it's very odd. I 535 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 1: I know. I guess in the past he's he had 536 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: said some good things about Tom Brady. Somebody, some one 537 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: of my friends in Boston told me when Brady was 538 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: early on his career, he was praising him too. And 539 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: but it just seems like that's out of character for Belichick, 540 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: the way he's operated for the last twenty years. Uh, 541 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: what do you make of that, Adam Is? Is that legitimate? 542 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: Is there some kind of other message Belichick is trying 543 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: to get out when he was just waxing poetic about 544 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: how great Mac Jones is. All right, two things, I'm 545 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: told by a very strong Patriot source that Matt Jones 546 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: is incredibly smart and processes very well. What that means 547 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: is he's given a lot of vinment the playbook he 548 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: was well had last year of where most rookies would be. 549 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: And yes, they feel very strongly about it. But let's 550 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: not forget all the praise that Belchick keeped on Cam Newton. 551 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: So before we we have to understand Bill Belichick is 552 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: will do things for strategic reasons. I want you know, 553 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: he always wants to prove that he's right. And I'm 554 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm a Belichick supporter quite frankly, I'm not a hater 555 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: at all. But Bill is like other coaches. They do 556 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: things for strategic reasons. Bill doesn't he praised just to 557 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: do it. He does it sometimes because he wants to 558 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: show that he's right, whatever the case may be. I 559 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: strongly suspect that Bill did that for a reason to 560 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: get it out there that this is this guy. And 561 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 1: don't forget them. The craziness of the lack of an 562 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and who I was going to call the place. 563 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: Whether it's m Patricia who's worked with the quarterbacks I'm 564 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: told really since the since the spring, or if it's 565 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: Joe Judge, I mean, you tell me, man, that's just 566 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: bizarre to me. Actually, I think it's Judge's work with 567 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, Patricia with the offensive line. But anyway, it's 568 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: because they've never called place before, They've never drave the quarterback. 569 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: It's just bizarre. I don't get what Belichick is doing here. 570 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: Why would you want to do that with a young quarterback? Well, hey, 571 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: plus you're gonna know the first quarter of the first game, right, 572 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: you just look on the sidelines. You're gonna have a 573 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: pretty good idea who's who's the one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 574 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: no doubt, and Billy Bill will be heavily involved in 575 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: it's all like you won't be involved. Yeah, so well, 576 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: speaking of odd situations, the Pittsburgh Steelers, who always seemingly 577 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: have a good team every year. Mike Tomlin no more 578 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, though he's been pretty pretty mediocre the last 579 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: couple of years of his career. But now they don't 580 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: have an established quarterback. Are the Steelers gonna be any 581 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: goodness year at him? I do, I do, and they'll 582 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna open more than hang on a second different media. 583 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, they here's the thing. Then they will definitely 584 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: do more because with den Louisberger with his the lack 585 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: of downfield throwing, and they were very limited to what 586 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: they can do. So yeah, they're gonna open it up 587 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. And you've got two a lot of 588 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks who obviously much younger, almost twenty years younger than Rothisberger. Yeah, 589 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna be fun. I'll be I'll be at the 590 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: camp very soon. I look forward to seeing and and 591 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: re engaging with the coaches. And see what's gonna be 592 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: a little different. But you're gonna see some different things 593 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: with their quarterback situation. All right, we'll get you out 594 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: of here on this. So Russell Wilson is in Denver now, 595 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: he's still doing the same crazy stuff on social media 596 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: and all that. How how big an impact? Obviously he's 597 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: been a great player in Seattle, never an m v 598 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: P type player. So what do you expect from Russell 599 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: Wilson with his new team in Denver. Then I'm gonna 600 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: go on a limb. I'm gonna pick them to win 601 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: the af C West. I know it's a great division. 602 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: I know Denver was what seven ten last season. It's 603 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: all because of the quarterback. They're gonna be very aggressive. 604 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: There will be no micro managing of Russell Wilson in 605 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: the past. The game I peek with like with Carol 606 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: in Seattle. Now here's the difference. First of all, the 607 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: head coach with Denver is actually gonna call the play 608 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: as in eight Hackett. So things are being aggressive. They've 609 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 1: got tremendous talent at tight end, running back, in wide receiver. 610 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: Dever Denver Bronco fans trap band. It's gonna be a 611 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: fun year. Adam, thank you so much. I appreciate it 612 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: and we'll have you on again. And thanks for the time. 613 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. You got my friend anytime. Thank you.