1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Dear Governor is a production of I Heart Media and 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: three Months Media. Dear Governor Newsom, Dear Mr Governor Newsom, 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: this is an open letter to Governor Gavin Newsom, Dear 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: Governor Newsom. After the California Supreme Court, here's a habeas 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: corpus appeal for a capital crime. They have nine d 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: days with which to file their opinion. We had already 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: surpassed the nine week mark following Jarvis Master's appeal, so 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: we knew the decision was impending, soon to be delivered 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: to our inboxes. Anyone can stay apprized of ongoing Supreme 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Court cases by signing up at Courts dot c A 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: dot gov. At the sixty six day mark, we all 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: received an email with a subject line Supreme Court of 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: California Case Notifications for s one three zero four nine five, 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: the body of which read notice of forthcoming opinion to 15 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: be filed in three days and three days later, twenty 16 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: one days before their deadline, the eagerly anticipated email read 17 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court of California Opinion available online and then 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: in parentheses concurrence. I lost the English unanimously. That heard 19 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: it real bad, you know, but I mean just you know, 20 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: sucked it up for a while. I did a lot 21 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: of meditation and a lot of sitting in, a lot 22 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: of thinking, and one thing I was very very confident 23 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: in months out of this decision was that I will 24 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: try to feel in the same place ready to accept 25 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: whatever outcome that is. Jarvis's lawyers had filed his habeas 26 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: petition in two thousand five. It took the California Supreme 27 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: Court fourteen excruciatingly long years to address the petition and 28 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: then sixty nine short days to reaffirm what they had 29 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: already decided. Had the court moved with any sense of 30 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: urgency or a bare minimum respect for the goal of 31 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: a speedy trial, there's a possibility, however remote, it might 32 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: have been, that Jarvis could have already moved through the 33 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: Federal appeals, a far less politically fraught system, and inhaled 34 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: the wonders of freedom. When I heard about the decision, 35 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: my immediate reaction was I was crushed. I felt crushed 36 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: to the ball. Yeah. I was hoping that no one 37 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: asked me these questions about what it felt like, you know, 38 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: because to me, it would have been like I was 39 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: a specive than a subject card, uh, something to look 40 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: at you. I any want to be that way mm hmmm. 41 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: I described it as having just had your wisdom keeeth 42 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: pulled out and someone's trying to hold a conversation with you. 43 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: You know, it hurt it in that way. So that 44 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: was my first you know, That's how I responded to it, 45 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: and over the next ten fifteen hours, and so I 46 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: had to straighten up, you know, I had to figure 47 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: out how to straighten up off this, you know. And 48 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: when it comes down to your freedom, epis so long, 49 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: you really, deep down inside you know, want this. You 50 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: want to win this. And they caught up to me 51 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: that the idea of losing is one more long, long 52 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: time of being in prison for zero, for nothing, and 53 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: no one knew how. And I was saying this to myself, 54 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: No one knows how long a day is. I'm fucking 55 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: with someone that doesn't know what a day feels like, 56 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: innocent on the death throw. They have no idea. Then 57 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: they get upset because I'm upset. You know, what world 58 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: are you guys living in? Concerns that were key in 59 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: the two thousand five petition included, but we're not limited 60 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: to prosecutorial misconduct. Newly discovered evidence and ineffective counsel. His 61 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 1: appellate attorneys at the time wrote that his death sentence 62 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: rested on evidence that the prosecution had known or should 63 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: have known was quote inflammatory, unreliable, untrue, and or misleading. 64 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: In so many words, I had now hold everybody up. 65 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: I had now played the role of don't worry about this, okay, 66 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. You know that was just that was 67 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: role playing because I knew no one would understand where 68 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: I was really at. You know, silence for me was 69 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: the biggest hug I could have gotten, just so like 70 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: every time someone talked to me, I was able to 71 00:04:54,560 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: call somebody I had. I had to explain people were 72 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: calling you, but you felt like you had to comfort 73 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: them all the time. It just feels like I was 74 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: the strongest shoulder for people to lean on. And if 75 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: I was fillion upset, they were phillips. So Mynes, who 76 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: was not the shill upset because I knew it would 77 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: create a lot of unhealthy ways for me personally. The 78 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: star witness against Jarvis was a black guerrilla family member 79 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: by the name of Rufus Willis, who testified under grant 80 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: of immunity from prosecution at the trial that he had 81 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: been in the prison yard when the b GF gang 82 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: were planning the assassination of Officer Birchfield, where it was 83 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: agreed he said that Jarvis would provide the tip of 84 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: the spear. In the preliminary hearing, Rufus Willis described Jarvis 85 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: as standing five seven, chubby, with a stomach, wearing glasses, 86 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: clean shaven, and free of tattoos. Note in fact that 87 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: Jarvis masters is six ft one, slender, didn't wear any glasses, 88 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: had a mustache and goatee with a tattoo on his 89 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: left cheek. An inmate named Harold Richardson, however, confessed to 90 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: playing the role in the crime that Rufus had attributed 91 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: to Jarvis, and fit the physical description Rufus had articulated 92 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: to a t seems like a slam dunk for reasonable doubt. 93 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: Right just have him testified before the jury. Not so fast. 94 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Harold Richardson refused to testify, citing his right against self incrimination. 95 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: Jervis's council pleaded with the judge to grant immunity for prosecution, 96 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, the judge refused. Jervis's council also 97 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: pleaded with the judge to allow expert testimony regarding the 98 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: unreliability of jail house informants, and for whatever reason, she 99 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: refused that plea as well, do you feel like you're 100 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: losing hope? You know what? And there you're talking about, Well, 101 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: can you hear the Buddhist here? I'll I don't want 102 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: to get into what hope post to do for me 103 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: right now, you know, I don't. I don't think hope 104 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: is gonna that's gonna help me resolve where I'm that. 105 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: I just don't think hope is a necessary thing to 106 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: have right now. I think it's really unhealthy. I think 107 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: it has no real value to it. Yeah, I think 108 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: that I'll be chasing something that you know, I don't 109 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: know where it would go one way to other, and 110 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: Hope is not going to be responsible for that. I 111 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: would not let that be my response. I would not 112 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: give Hope that responsibility. In other words, I really don't 113 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: want to put hope o front street, you know so, 114 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: I think that is a very very Buddhist way of saying, 115 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: you know, hope is not an issue that you should 116 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: put everything into. Okay, what do you want to put 117 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: on street? If not hope? The idea of not expecting anything. 118 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: Work with that? Why do I need to spend time 119 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: trying to effect one outcome from the other. To not 120 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: be that smart to know and to live in that 121 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: space of unknown, not knowing. That's a very comfortable space 122 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: if you can control it, if it can be maintained. 123 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: How do you do that? Oh man, I don't really know. 124 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: You know, I know what the practice is. I really 125 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: don't know how to do that. I can give you 126 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: the basic instruction, but I don't I don't know how 127 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: it works. And that's what they call it. What a 128 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: practice is. You get better at it, you discover more, 129 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: it becomes more of a way of thinking. It supposed 130 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: to create balance in your life. H Quit trying to 131 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: tell yourself what you don't know. I mean, that's just 132 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,479 Speaker 1: the way I see it in prison. On me, I 133 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: I cheech this kind of stuff to people. So I 134 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: mean my way of saying it to a lot of 135 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: guys in here is, you know, quick trying to tell 136 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: you know yourself you know something. When you don't, all 137 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna do is fall asleep and want some bit 138 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: once some timely lost because of it, leave it alone. 139 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: Trying to be in the best place when it happened. 140 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: So just be in the place of not knowing what 141 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: you what you really don't suppost and know anything about, 142 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: and be smart enough to think that you don't need 143 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 1: to know what you're not gonna be told to you 144 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: until it happens. Lawrence Woodard, the man who was accused 145 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: of masterminding the murder of Sergeant Birchfield, was sentenced to 146 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: life without possibility of parole. Andre Johnson, the man who 147 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: was accused of a single stab wound that severed Sergeant 148 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: Birchfield's pulmonary artery, was sentenced to life without the possibility 149 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: of parole. Jarvis Masters, accused of manufacturing the tip of 150 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: the spear, was sentenced to death after a penalty phase 151 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: hearing at which a prisoner named Johnny Hose, a member 152 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: of the Black Guerrilla Family, testified that Jarvis had bragged 153 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: about murdering a San Quentin prisoner in nine four, though 154 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: this case had never been adjudicated. Subsequent to the trials 155 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: and sentencing, all three States witnesses Rufus Willis, Bobby Evans, 156 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: and Johnny Hose have recanted and sworn statements saying that 157 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: they had lied at the trial in hopes of obtaining 158 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: favorable treatment for themselves. The rufus Willis statement also said 159 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: that he had coerced Jarvis, out of fear for his 160 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: own safety, to write the incriminating kites, which Masters copied 161 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: from the writings of Willis and Woodard. Finally, Andre Johnson, 162 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: Jarvis's co defendant convicted of actually stabbing Birchfield to death, 163 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: provided a sworn statement saying that Masters had no role 164 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: in the murder. Were you surprised when they came back 165 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: with the death penalty? Yes, Jeffrey Rockline, lead defense counsel 166 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: for Jarvis Masters from nineteen eighty six to nineteen Jarvis 167 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: testified and he was very compelling, very believable, very likable, 168 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: very human, very warm, sympathetic. You know, he told a 169 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: story about his life that was, you know, really sad, 170 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: very upsetting, and you know, he testified to the jury, 171 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: I thought, in a very communicative way. And then we 172 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: had other experts on the stand about you know, his background, 173 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: Craig Haney was was excellent. So yeah, I was surprised 174 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: that they came back with death, very very surprised. Do 175 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: you remember talking to Jarvis about it after? Oh? Sure, 176 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how was that to him? Well, it was hard, 177 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was difficult thinking with him. But you know, 178 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: he Jarvis is a is a tough, strong guy, you know, 179 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: and he's a real fighter. And I really grew to 180 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: like Jarvis, you know, and like him very much like 181 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: him and feel for him and have sympathy for him 182 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: and as as a human being, as a person who 183 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: was able to actually pull himself out of you know, 184 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: that whole gang prison culture and the criminal culture. Um. 185 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: So I have a great deal of respect for him. 186 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: And number one number two, there was so much evidence 187 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: that was kept from us. Um, there's so much of 188 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: the bad evidence that has flipped over, has reversed that. 189 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: You know, if he were tried now, whether I would 190 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: handle it or another defense lawyer would handle it, you know, 191 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: they'd get an acquibble. I think there's this overwhelming reasonable 192 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: doubt that Jarvis was was guilty of the crimes. That's 193 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: what I feel. So I'm glad you're doing this work. 194 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: It's very important. He should not be on death row. 195 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: He shouldn't be in prison actually for this crime. You know, 196 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: it's really a tragedy. Um, it really is. You know, 197 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: it's really unfair. How do you hear the decision? Who 198 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: told you? How did you find out? Art from at 199 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: least a dozen people, you know, they were coming at 200 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: me from all over the place, and what I noticed 201 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: about most of them was they wanted a response. They 202 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: wanted to know my first reaction, and they wanted to 203 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: know it in a way that it's so really really 204 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: sickening to me. It's almost like people are looking right 205 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: down you, right down your throat and wanting to know 206 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: what aposted to feel like, you know, how does it 207 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: feel for that to happen? I'm sorry, but I really 208 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: want to know how you're dealing with this. I wanted 209 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: to look in your eyes and see something you know 210 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: that that all, yeah, I can see, I mean that 211 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,599 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So I think what happened was I 212 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: dealt with it by trying to fear show I was 213 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: not defeated, you know, and I was ready to take 214 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: it to the next level that it's not as bad 215 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: as it was supposed to be. You know, the court 216 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: basically preached us with some really good issues, and that 217 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: was the issue by Blue and the other justice speak 218 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: the two issues that really we can really really build 219 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: on the two issues that Jarvis is referencing that may 220 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: help as he navigates the federal appeals process. Written by 221 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: California Supreme Court Justice Goodwin lou in his concurring opinion 222 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: on Jarvis's habeas corpus petition, he writes, we have no 223 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: occasion in this posture to consider whether, in light of 224 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: the trial evidence, as well as the reference hearing and findings, 225 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,239 Speaker 1: we can be confident of the verdict beyond a reasonable 226 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: doubt and to quote, nor do we have occasion here 227 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: to consider whether, in light of all of the relevant circumstances, 228 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: the fact that Masters was sentenced to death while his 229 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: co defendants were not maybe indicative of arbitrary nous in 230 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: the application of the death penalty. I had the last 231 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: god I killed executed was on my watch with my 232 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: client in two thousand and six. And that's another thing 233 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: that makes me so sick death. I'll tell you when 234 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: you have that kind of direct experience of it, as 235 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: well as the experience of standing up there next to 236 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: my client, Jarvis, and having the judge condemned him to death. 237 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: Attorney Michael Satras sat second chair on Jarvis's defense team 238 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: from nineteen through nineteen nine, and his death penalty sentence. 239 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: I've always been against that penalty. I get a add 240 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: taste in my mouth from it, and every experience that 241 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: I have of it to me, just shows how wrong 242 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: and arbitrary and capricious it is. And for Jarvis to 243 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: end up with the death penalty when wood or jury 244 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: hangs on the issue, which is the same jury we had. 245 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: Woodard is the he's the true believer. If anybody is 246 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: in participation in the gang, he is indisputably the leader 247 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: of those three. So the jury hangs on him and 248 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: then comes back with the death penalty for Jarvis. And 249 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: then you have Johnson, the actual killer, who gets the 250 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: death penalty by his jury, and the judge modifies it 251 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: because it is kind of arbitrary. He's sort of a 252 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: fall guy in some ways from Woodard and the higher 253 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: ups picking him as as the good soldier who wants 254 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: to make his bones and whatever to commit the killing. 255 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: But he's kind of just this not very bright, innocent 256 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: young man. And so the judge, to me, that was 257 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: a very good move on her part. And then we 258 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: come up for pronouncement of judgment, and by all rights, 259 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: by all signs of justice and whatever should have been modified. 260 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: In reference to the three States witnesses recanting their testimony, 261 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: the California Supreme Court wrote that while Jarvis had demonstrated 262 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: them to be generally liars, he does not offer any 263 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: persuasive reason to credit their recantations over their trial testimony. 264 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: In other words, we know that prison snitches are prison snitches. 265 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: We know that prison snitches lie when it benefits them. 266 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: We know that there was a chance that they were 267 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: lying in the original trial, and there's an equal chance 268 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: that they lied in their recantations, and because of that, 269 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: we unanimously endorse the execution of a man because you know, 270 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: we really don't know in this prison context. Yeah, I mean, 271 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: you're accurate in observing that these people, many of them, 272 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: the snitches, are unreliable. They tell different stories. Jeffrey Rotwine, 273 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: again lead defense counsel for Jarvis during his murder trial. 274 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: We attacked Ruvius Willis. We attack you know, Johnny Hoes, 275 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: Bobby Evans, the people that were, you know, cooperating with 276 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: the government. And typically there's a whole history of cooperation, 277 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, and and and requests for leniency or money 278 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: or reduction and sentences or dismissal of cases, and you 279 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: have to kind rely on the institution, the district attorney 280 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: and the you know, the prison and the Department of Corrections, 281 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, to disclose and and produce all the records 282 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: and information varying on that person's character and background and 283 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: motives for testifying. I asked Larry Marshall, a professor of 284 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: law at Stanford who happens to be consulting on Jarvis's case. 285 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: Now that the habeas corpus opinion has been rendered on 286 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: the state level, what is next for Jarvis? So the 287 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: next step, after one goes through the state system of 288 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: the direct appeal and then the habeas is we give 289 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: a defendant capital or otherwise the right to go into 290 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: federal court. And two show that the state court was 291 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: unreasonable in rejecting his or her ca institutional claims. So 292 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: it's not enough to convince a federal judge that my 293 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: rights have been violated and that I should have been 294 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: given relief. You have to show, and this is since 295 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: since the anti terrorism and effective death penalty app you 296 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: have to show that the state court was reasonable, that 297 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: it unreasonably applied settled law, Settled Supreme Court, United States 298 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: Supreme Court precedent. So it's a very high burden. But 299 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: on the other hand, it's a burden that has met 300 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: at times in outrageous cases. And it also has to 301 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: be the claims have to be federal constitutional claims, and 302 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: this is a very This federal habeas is a very 303 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 1: odd bird in the structure of our court system because 304 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: it kind of puts it does put a federal district 305 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: court judge and then a federal Court of Appeals in 306 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: the role of reviewing the reasonableness of what the state 307 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: supreme court has done. We don't do that in civil cases. 308 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: And civil cases, if there's a federal issue, you go 309 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: straight to the Supreme Court. You don't get to go 310 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: into federal court and have a judge sort of second 311 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: guess at some level what the state court has done. 312 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: But again, because we do recognize that constitutional rights in 313 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: the criminal setting are particularly cherished, we do provide we 314 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: do provide this remedy. And just as an historical note, 315 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: it was born in large part over the fact that, 316 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: let's say, during reconstruction, a lot of states in the South, 317 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: we're not respecting the constitutional rights of black defendants. Congress 318 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: had a mechanism, they had those defendants had a mechanism 319 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: of going into court um and saying to the federal 320 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: court book, our constitutional rights are being violated, and there 321 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: was a sense that the federal courts would be more 322 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: independent and more willing to recognize those constitutional rights. I've 323 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: told Jarvis that I will work very hard to help 324 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: put together a terrific team of the lawyers pro bono 325 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: lawyers who will take on his representation in federal court. 326 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: That I will be more than willing to consult with 327 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: those lawyers as they as they as they work through 328 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: the case and to the you know, part of the 329 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: team in that sense, um, in an informal in an 330 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: informal way, but I do believe they play that he 331 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: needs to get some lawyers who are both passionate and 332 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: brilliant and and very eager to get involved in a 333 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: in an injustice like this. I asked Larry what he 334 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: believes that we as a society oh to those who 335 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: have languished on death row and in prison in general, 336 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: only to be found innocent years, if not decades later 337 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: after their incarceration. I believe that and this might sound corny, um, 338 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: which I guess is appropriate, but I'm pumped there you go. 339 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: I I believe that the main thing we owe them 340 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: is to learn from our mistakes. Is the main thing 341 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: we owe them is that their pain have not been 342 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: in vain and that um other people will not suffer 343 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: because of what they went through and what we've learned. Now, 344 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: that's not all that we were. We owe them, We 345 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: owe them, we need to make them whole as best 346 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,239 Speaker 1: we can really can't. Part of the way we do 347 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: that is through money, uh, and judgments and the ability 348 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: to try to rebuild or build a life. Um and 349 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: I think those are vital as well. But it does 350 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: seem to me as a society that if we go 351 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: through that with an individual, we learned that the individual 352 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: was wrongly convicted, and then we nonetheless just go back 353 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: to business as usual. That is just this massive slap 354 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: in the face to the person who has been exonerated 355 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: and two people coming down the pike. The late Geronimo 356 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: Pratt served two tours in Vietnam, where he earned two 357 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: bronze stars, a silver star, and two purple stars. When 358 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: he returned to the States, he became a high ranking 359 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: member of the Black Panther Party and was eventually imprisoned 360 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: in San Quentin for twenty seven years for a murder 361 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: he did not commit, and was awarded four point five 362 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: million dollars from federal and local governments as settlement in 363 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: a wrongful imprisonment suit. Here we have Geronimo on tape 364 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: decades ago bearing witness to his friend Jarvis J. Masters, 365 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: at the launch party for Jarvis's first book, Finding Freedom, 366 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: Writings from Death Row. Hey, UM, met Jarvis Masters in 367 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: prison while we were in the hole in San Quentin's 368 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: adjustment center, shortly after he was charged with the murder 369 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: of Sergeant Burstville. No, I should say, wrongfully charge. And um, 370 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: he's a very beautiful brother. I kind of two did 371 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: like I do with Uh. I did, but most youngsters 372 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: kind of took him under my way for a minute 373 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: the brief time we were together, and uh I noticed 374 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: that specialness about him that made him stand apart from 375 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: most youngsters his age. And uh later on when I 376 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: learned that he had written a book and that he 377 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: had continued just practices and to his disciplines that we 378 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 1: had been trying to promote as older prisoners, and I 379 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: was very proud of that. And then when I got 380 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: the book and read it, and I knew he was there, 381 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: and so uh, even though he sits on death row 382 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: and facing death, I was also up there for eighteen months, 383 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: but I was not facing officially the death. I know 384 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: what it's like. But now that I know, he has 385 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: reached this nirvana at this level, and I'm sure that 386 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: the Jarvis is this in a safe place, even though 387 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: he still physically needs our help to get him off 388 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: of death row. And hopefully through these methods and channels 389 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: now we'll we'll be able to generate enough support, enough 390 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: funds or whatever to effect his release from uh the gallows. 391 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: And I want to encourage all of you to get 392 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: this book. Read it. You will find a lot of 393 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: knowledge and a lot of freedom in this book. And 394 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: it might sounds fames that you will find freedom from 395 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: a guy locked up, but take my word from it. 396 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: Read this book. You will find a lot of freedom. 397 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: Where do we find our freedom? I describe situations where 398 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: someone has a very very beautiful home or two door 399 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: garage right off the beach, great job, a trained dog, 400 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: and how their lives are so miserable. At the same time, 401 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: their life is so miserable, and every time they pull 402 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: out the parking lot, they don't. There's a stretch of 403 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: beach that they never get to see going to work 404 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: and coming back, and to think that you have all 405 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: these proper tilities two find your own freedom, to be blessed, 406 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: to be fortunate to not have that, but always with 407 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: a sense of being on death row is doesn't have 408 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: to be in prison, you know you can't. Don't do that. 409 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: Don't learn just from people in prison on death row 410 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: in San Quentin. We'll learn from the misery that you 411 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: see other people have when they when they're alcoholics, when 412 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: they are dope finds are very abusive to their spouse, 413 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: where Vinus is right in the next door, not necessary 414 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: on the streets. You know, just because you're out doesn't 415 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: mean that they're free. That's a myth. That's a very 416 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: very clear myth to me. And I learned that they 417 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: beat me in the Buddhist I really did that. There's 418 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: something that I can directly relate to. Having exhausted his 419 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: state appeals, Jarvis now heads to the federal courts. Brian 420 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: Stevenson of the Equal Justice Initiative introduced Jarvis to Stanford 421 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: professor Larry Marshall, who in turn introduced Jarvis to the 422 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: prestigious international law firm Kirkland and Ellis. They have recently 423 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: committed to represent Jarvis pro bono and his federal habeas 424 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: proceedings and other post conviction proceedings. His lead attorney, William F. Williams, said, 425 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: after decades of litigation in the California state courts, we 426 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: now have the opportunity to raise in federal courts the 427 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: serious constitutional issues that deprived Jarvis of a fair trial, 428 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: and we look forward to presenting his claims to a 429 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: federal judge. We will continue to support Jarvis and help 430 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: tell his story far and wide as the riveting details unfold, 431 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: and we remain optimistic that Governor Gavin Newsom will hear 432 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: our open letter and revisit the unjust case of Jarvis 433 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: j Masters. The vast majority of legal insights into Jarvis's 434 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: substantial claims of innocence were published in the article Unrequited 435 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: Innocence in US Capital Cases Unintended Consequences of the Fourth 436 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: Kind by Rob Warden and John Seasley, published in the 437 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: Northwestern Journal of Law and Social Policy in the spring 438 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen. Not only does this fascinating read profile 439 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: Jarvis's case, but the cases involving twenty four more condemned 440 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: men and women whom the authors believed to be innocent 441 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: as well. We linked to the article in our show notes. 442 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: Special thanks to Alan Sinaki for providing legal insights into 443 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: Jarvis's case as well. Today's episode was written and produced 444 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: by Donna Fazzari and myself, Corny Cole. Our theme song 445 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: sentenced is compliments of the band's stick figure from their 446 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: albums Set in Stone. Stu Sternbach has composed the original music. 447 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: Nate Defort did the sound design. Visit free Jarvis dot 448 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: org to find out more about Jarvis's case and to 449 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: sign your name to our dear Governor Newsom petition. 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