1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, I've got a story for you today. It'll 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: just you'll just scratch your head and go, huh. I 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: think that makes you go. The car Doctor told the 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: driver's side door electric window switch in the opposition and 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: slam the door three times and it works every time. Um, 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: I haven't heard that one. That's probably right up there 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: with rub your belly button three times counterclockwise while you're 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: driving over the g W bridge and chance Satan's name 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: and maybe the carl work. Welcome to the radio home 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: of Ron and Anian, the Car Doctor, since this is 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in the 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: garage doors are open, but I am here to take 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: your call at eight five and now he running. You know, 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: I've got another story for you today, and it's sort 17 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: of talks about well, it's it's probably the result of 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: the quarantine and the pandemic and everything we're all going 19 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: through right now. And you know it's funny you drive around. 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: If you get out of the house and you go 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: driving and you can drive, it's it's sort of very 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: pleasurable to drive, especially in New Jersey. It seems that 23 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: um as the roads are empty, so are empty of 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,279 Speaker 1: the people that don't know how to use directionals, stop 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: signs and you know, you get it. So Keith was 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: in this week. You probably don't know Keith, but Keith 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: is that you know every man, every guy, uh type 28 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: of person and real a real nice guy, just knows 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: everybody you know, has has got a thousand and one stories. 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: And he stopped in this week and we we talked 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: from afar. I had him, you know, on the other 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: side of the fence with the sirens and the whistles 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: going off while we were trying to converse, about twelve 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: feet apart. And he was there because he had dropped 35 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: off his two thousand four GMC workhorse Chevy workhorse called 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: it a Chevy GMC same thing, workhorse chassis, one of 37 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: those like big aluminum body bread truck type things. And 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: we were we were doing some work on it for 39 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: a mass airflow sensor fault, and we were just you know, 40 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: yakking because there's time now, and you know, it's sort 41 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: of like time to get to know your neighbor and 42 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: time to get to know your customer a little bit better. 43 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: Type of environment and type of world that we're living in, 44 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: and you know, it is kind of like Mr Rogers neighborhood. 45 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: And Keith told me the story of a friend of his, Fred, 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: who was up on the Canadian Intercoastal Highway a few 47 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: years back in a Stanley steamer, like an eighteen ninety 48 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: nine or a nineteen o two Stanley steam or something 49 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: from the turn of the last century. And he proceeded 50 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: to tell me the story of how Fred got a 51 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: speeding ticket. Now, Fred's in his mid eighties, okay, Fred's 52 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: Fred's he's getting up there, I guess. And as as 53 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: Keith would put it, and he told me this story 54 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: about how Fred got a speeding ticket on the Canadian 55 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: Intercoastal Highway that runs across the top of Canada there 56 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: for doing sixty three miles an hour in a in 57 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: a Stanley steamer, which is okay, But the section of 58 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: road he was in, well, there's there's two problems. First 59 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: of all, the speed limit on the section of road 60 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: he was in was fifty five and the second is 61 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: a Stanley steamer couldn't go faster than forty six miles 62 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: an hour. Fred had modified it some and you know, 63 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: the in a demonstration to show me, you know, to 64 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: show his ingenuity. And Keith thought this was hilarious. And 65 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: somehow this subject came up, you know how you're sort 66 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: of standing around just yacking it up. He said. He 67 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: told the police officer, he said, he said, he could 68 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: tell that the police officer was waiting for him to 69 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: try and talk him out of it. But the cop 70 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: was so Um A gag was the word Keith used. 71 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: And I guess he was surprised to see this eighty 72 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: five year old guy with goggles and a little beat 73 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: nick app on um driving a Stanley Steamer at sixty 74 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: three miles an hour. It just had to be quite 75 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: a site. And Fred leaned over to him and he's 76 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: sitting now, listen, you make sure you write that miles 77 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: per hour legible on the ticket, because I'm gonna show 78 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: that to my friends. They're not gonna believe me. Um, 79 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, what do you do with that? And the 80 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: cop did. He wrote him a ticket for sixty three 81 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: miles an hour. Fred gladly played the fine and um, 82 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: it's sort of you know, it's Fred lare As. Keith 83 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: would say, he uh, you know it's down in his 84 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: You know it'll it'll be something they talk about for 85 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: years to come. Now, I told you that story to 86 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: tell you this one. Fred also has a collection of 87 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: brass cars, Stanley Steamer brass cars and would body cars. 88 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: He's got an eighteen nine seven I thought. Keith said 89 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't an Aurora. I'm not sure on the name now, 90 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: but it was something from two centuries ago. And they 91 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: took the car to Bermuda. And you know, it's funny 92 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: how things right come home to roost and how you're 93 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: it seems like you just get to know everybody in 94 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: the car business. And Keith was telling me about this 95 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: wooden bodied car that Fred had, that it went to 96 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: Bermuda to be in a competition because Fred competes with 97 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: these older cars. Um, there's a hill climb, I think, Keith, 98 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: that's another story. Keith told me so many there's a 99 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: hill climb up in Massachusetts. I think it is um 100 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: dead Horse Hill. I think they called it because in 101 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: the old days, when Tom Ray, my producer, was a kid, 102 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: them if if if the horse and wagon tried to 103 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: pull that hill, if the horses weren't strong enough, are 104 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: healthy enough, it would kill him. It was so hence 105 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: the name dead Horse Hill. So they would have contest 106 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: to see, you know, when when the horseless carriage came 107 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: out at the turn of the previous century, they would 108 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: have contest to see if the car could get up 109 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: the top of the hill. It was so Fred's got 110 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: a couple of champion dead Horse Hill cars. That's another story. 111 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: So anyway, they take this car to Bermuda. I'm off 112 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: the subject here. They take this car to Bermuda, this 113 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: wooden bodied car, and during the course of the competition, 114 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: it develops a fuel leak. Now, you know, these aren't 115 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: cars the way we think of them as cars. These 116 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: are cars that you know, they're they're there crewed by 117 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: today's standards in a sense, but they're very mechanical as 118 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: they were because that was the basis of the foundation 119 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: of the industry at that time, a hundred and twenty 120 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: some odd years ago. So the problem was the copper 121 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: fuel line that was over the top of the hot engine. 122 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: Can you see this coming developed the crack and it 123 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: started to drip gasoline out of the fuel line. It 124 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: was just a gravity fed fuel system. No, it wasn't 125 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: fuel injected. There was no computer hook up two scan 126 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: tool to that car. See what happens, go find the 127 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: port well. As Keith told that, he said, it wasn't 128 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: a matter of time before the gas ignited and the 129 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: car caught fire. Now, I'm engine, You're in Bermuda in 130 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: a competition, and your wooden embodied, you know, five thousand 131 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: dollar rare seven. Whatever catches fire, you get the fire 132 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: put out. And the fire kept flaring up and they 133 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: couldn't figure out why until they realized it got so 134 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: hot it melted the sodder out of the connections for 135 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: the copper line to the tank, so that now it 136 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: just kept dripping. They'd get the fire to go out, 137 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: and then some more fuel would drip out, and then 138 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: the fire would flare up again, and in eventually, in 139 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: eventuality they lost the car. The car just burned to 140 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: the ground. Now you know, this is the part that 141 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: just kind of got me. And I you know, was 142 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: Fred okay? And you know you Fred was fine. Um, 143 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, Fred actually wasn't driving it. A friend of 144 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: his was driving it. And the friend said said, you 145 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: know he felt bad, and um, you know, chief Fred, 146 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: I burned up your wooden body eighteen nineties, seven, eighteen 147 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: nine six, whatever, this was car, this classic and Fred says, 148 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: and this is what Keith is his Keith talking now, 149 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: Fred said, he explained to his friend list it doesn't matter. 150 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: You're ready for this. He goes, I've got Grundy insurance. 151 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: And you know what. I turned looked at Keith and 152 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: I said excuse me, and he went, yeah, I've got 153 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: Grundy Insurance. And I said, Grundy, the Grundy Car Insurance, 154 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: Classic car Insurance has Why you know him? I said, sure, 155 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: he sponsors the radio show. I talked to him all 156 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: the time. We talked about classic car insurance and um, 157 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, different types of coverage and and and and 158 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. And uh, it's just amazing 159 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: to me how small a world, the automobile industry, the 160 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: automobile business, collecting classic cars. Everybody seems to be tied 161 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: into everybody else. Um. And by the way, I should 162 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: point this out, um, Keith told me. He said, it 163 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: was close to a million dollar are lost by the 164 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: time they had the cart or the car was appraised 165 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: for a million dollars. And I might have them, I 166 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: might have my numbers A little wrong with the point was, 167 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: he said, Grundy covered every bit of it, and um 168 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: they did so you know, Um they were happy to 169 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: do it, he said. Fred. Fred had nothing but nice 170 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: to say. And um he said he you know, as 171 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, he's got his entire fleet of 172 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: classic cars ensured by Grundy. And I said, well, I 173 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: sort of know Fred. I see him at the coffee shop, 174 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: I said, knowing Fred, Um, that says a lot if 175 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: if Fred's content with them, So just you know, there 176 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: you go prove positive right. Um, you just never know 177 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: where you know it's gonna come home to roost. If 178 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: you take the time to sit and talk to somebody, 179 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: uh you know just exactly what will happen? And um 180 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: uh you know how you can um come full circle, 181 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: get to know your neighbor, get to know your customer. 182 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: By the way, and the reason Keith knew so much 183 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: about it? Are you ready for this? Keith and Fred 184 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: became friends on the basis that Keith is a cabinet maker. 185 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: What her cabinets made out of? Would what did key? 186 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: What did Fred need made a customed wouldn't ashboard and 187 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: body parts? Guess who made them? Keith? After I believe 188 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: it's Jim Grundy. It paid the check to ensure it, 189 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: to repair it, to put it back together. How's that 190 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: for how things go full circle? Right? It's uh. It's 191 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: who you know and who you bump into it become 192 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: lifelong friends. That's what cars are about. And that's a 193 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: story you can take to the bank. Eight five five 194 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero running any of the car Doctor, 195 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: coming back to answer your questions right after this. Hey, 196 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: we're not going anywhere, Yes, sir, we're going anywhere. We're going. Well, 197 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: now what well, because we have a special announcement to make, 198 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: and here it is. Happy annivers Happy annivers Happy anniversary. 199 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: Yea to you. Thank you? Yeah, thank you, Tom. Your 200 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: thirty nine years. Imagine that she's put up with me 201 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: for thirty nine years and you know what, we're about 202 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: to nominate her for Stwood. Well I think I think 203 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: we're past that. Um, you know, but yeah, thirty nine years, 204 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, Tom. I appreciate that. Um. I appreciate that. 205 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: Can we we go to break now? Of course? Okay? Good, okay, 206 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: thank you sir, I'm running any of the car Doctor. 207 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. O. God, that's right. 208 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: If you call and we're not live. You can leave 209 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: a message and we'll call you back to get you 210 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: on the air with Ron eight five five zero nine 211 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Speaking of Ron, here he is. And 212 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: by the way, I should mention I failed to mention 213 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: it before we left at that last segment that if 214 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: you're looking for information about Grundy Insurance is Grundy Insurance 215 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: dot com. Jim Grundy, if you have, by chance you 216 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: ever get to talk to him, is such a car 217 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: guy if you've got a classic, but you don't have 218 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: to be a classic to ensure it. Um, there's there's, 219 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: there's all kinds of different levels and categories of vehicles 220 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: that they do. But Jim is just such a car guy. 221 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: To sit and talk to him, He's got stories. He 222 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: makes Keith look like he's not talking. And he's got 223 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: he probably got stories about Fred. I should probably talk 224 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: to him about Fred at some point, But um, they don't. 225 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: They they're just they're they've Fred and Jim, from what 226 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: I understand of growing to become very good friends. And um, 227 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: uh just just just a heck of a car guy. 228 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: Grundy Insurance, Uh, Grundy dot Com I believe is the website. 229 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: Let's go and talk to Joe in Virginia. Joe sixty 230 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: four Mustang. Yes, Joe, how can I help? Hey? Ron, Um, 231 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: I really love your show. Me and my dad we've 232 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: listened to you for many, many years. Thank you. But Um, 233 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: I got a sixty four. It's a six four and 234 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: a half Mustang with a two sixty V eight in it. 235 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: And I was reading through the owner's manual and I 236 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: saw that it said that Ford recommended back in the 237 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: day ninety two obtained leaded fuel. And I know letted 238 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: fuel is not a thing anymore. Um, but what would 239 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: you recommend? This card gets driven probably about once or 240 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: twice a month. It might get maybe three or four 241 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: thousand miles a year on it. Um, what kind of 242 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: obtained fuel would you recommend? And would you like recommend 243 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: that I use non ethanol fuel or do you think 244 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: sanolf it would be fine in it? If you can 245 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: get non ethanol, I think you're better off just simply 246 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: because of the damage that ethanol can do on a 247 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: vehicle that sits a lot. Now, the one thing that 248 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: you can do to help combat it is go out 249 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: to whereas the Burman products. Go at the Burman Products 250 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: dot Com and you can start to read some about 251 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: their fuel stabilizers and fuel system um cleaners and so 252 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: on that will help stabilize and help protect against ethanol 253 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: based fuels. So you know there's there, there's two options 254 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: there as far as octane. Just keep in mind in 255 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: nine sixty five, fuel was rated different, and we don't 256 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: really talk about that here. It doesn't generally come up, 257 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: but I remember it when it happened. I believe it 258 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: was seventy two because I was working in the gas 259 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: station and the octane ratings changed. I believe it went 260 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: from a research octane it was research octane, and I 261 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: don't remember what the other definition was. But fuel has 262 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: changed in the way that they rate it. So you know, 263 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: ninety two octane today is a lower octane on that 264 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: newer chart, if I remember correctly. So just you know, 265 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: keep that in mind. You're not You're not. You want 266 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: to run premium in it for the amount you drive it? Great, 267 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: you want to run premium non ethanol related fuel in it. Yeah, 268 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: I get it. But you know you're not gonna find 269 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: a ninety two I think the best. Well, actually, you're 270 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: gonna find something better. I think Sinocco. Um, I'll run 271 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: Sinocco in the hot rod. It well, it was three 272 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: dollars a gallon the last time I looked. I don't 273 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: really look. When I fill up, I just give the 274 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: guy fifty bucks and say here. But you know, you know, 275 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: it's as my late father in law one said, hot 276 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: roger or just better than a case of beer on 277 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: a Saturday night and go cruising around. Um, you know, 278 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: just just go and have some fun with the hot rod. 279 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: Now with the case of beer on the hot rod, 280 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: UMU as far as the let it goes. And I 281 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: think part of that is that you're going to see 282 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: a difference, you know, like I think that car is 283 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: going to react differently, different fuels, different brands, and you're 284 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: you're going to see that and feel that. That being said, 285 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: you know, the real question is do you run a 286 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: lead editive or not? And that question I get a 287 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: lot And you know, a very dear friend of mine, 288 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: Jeff all Right uh an engine builder for thirty five years. 289 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: And then every time this question comes up and I 290 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: try to approach the conversation with me, he he brings 291 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: up the point. He says, listen for all the engines 292 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: I've built, and for all the engines I've I've seen 293 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: run and take apart, he said, you know, even on 294 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: unleaded fuel without lead, I've yet to see an unleaded 295 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: fuel caused damage to a valve seat by itself, especially 296 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: on a vehicle that drives such short term. You know 297 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: that that's from the guy doing the open heart surgery. 298 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: All right, that's from the guy that's you know, and 299 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to guess how many engines over his 300 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: career Jeff has done. Uh, you know, he's a he's 301 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: a sort of a saft for this stuff. You can. 302 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: He's terrible to take the car shows. He'll walk past, 303 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, it goes that's got the wrong valve cover 304 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: on it. How do you know, Well, because that's a 305 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: that's a I don't know. Fifty seven Corvette is supposed 306 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: to have a nine fin valve cover, but it's only 307 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: got a seven because you can't find the nine fin 308 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: valve cover because it's such a rare option. They only 309 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: made it for sixty two weeks, you know, or or 310 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: six and a half weeks in the month of January. 311 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: You know. It's just it's so arguing with Jeff is 312 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: just you might as well talk to the wall. So 313 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: that being said, UM, you want to be fussy, you 314 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: want to put a lead editive in it? Goodead. I 315 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna matter. I would run I would 316 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: I would run a good grade of fuel, I'm sorry, 317 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: a good grade of oil. I would run a zinc 318 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: based oil for it. And they do make Fortunately, there 319 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: are a lot of manufacturers out there now making oil 320 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: that is classic car rated. For lack of a better 321 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: way to put it, um, you know, with zinc in it, 322 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: it's you know, again, it's not cheap, but this hobby 323 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: is not cheap because it's a hobby. Now, get out 324 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: to UM driven Racing Oil. I can't remember the website, 325 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: but if you google search driven Racing oil and I, UM, 326 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: what's the guy's name? Speed? Something Speed? I can't but 327 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: we've had him here on the show. UM. I actually 328 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: run there, uh five thirty zinc based HR two I 329 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: think it is HR two or HR one in the 330 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: hot rock and it works. It works really well. I'm 331 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: happy with it that I get that. You know, oil 332 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: to me is a little bit more critical than fuel. 333 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: Fuel is going to be a what does it run 334 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: best in type? Of a scenario. But yeah, if you 335 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: can find if you can find non ethanol, do so. Listen. 336 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: It's funny you bring up fuel. Tom was telling me 337 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: a story. H he spoke to someone this week and 338 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: they were talking about Sonocco fuel they found at the 339 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: pump and it was almost fourteen dollars a gallon, and 340 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: he sent me a link for it and we found 341 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: a you can buy it online. You can go to 342 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: Sonocco Racing Fuel dot com whatever it is, and you 343 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: can you can spend I think it was um uh, 344 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: they sold a fifty five gallon drum of it. It 345 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: was two hundred and you know, you can start a 346 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: gas station right there in the garage pumps and all. 347 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: Um uh. You know. But I don't think you need to. 348 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: I really don't. I think you know, choice of oil, 349 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: quality fuel, and I think you'll be just fine. Joe, um, 350 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: I really do. So. Enjoy it, get it out and 351 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: drive it and the best best way to self quarantine 352 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: would be six ft apart from the car in front 353 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: of you and behind you and just have a good time. 354 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of the weekend. Thanks, Joe, I appreciate it. 355 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: You You take good care down there, Virginia way, I'm 356 00:18:34,480 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: running eating the car doctor. We're back right after this. Hey, 357 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: welcome back. We're name of the car doctor. That's who 358 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: it was, Lake Speed, the gentleman from Driven Racing Oil. 359 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: Uh Lake Speed Jr. I believed to be correct him. Boy, 360 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: there there's a guy who knows his motor oils. He's 361 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: um remember having him on the show. He can just 362 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: walk you through it if you happen to be lucky 363 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: enough to get him on the phone. Just to make 364 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 1: sure you have a couple of coffee or a cup 365 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: of ta because you're gonna be there a while. Um, 366 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: only you ask one question. Uh, you'll be there for 367 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 1: a half hour. So real good guy, real knowledgeable too. 368 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: Let's get over to David and Iowa. Oh one old 369 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: mobile and some questions. David, welcome back, sir. How are 370 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: you today? Oh? Well, Ron, yes, sir, the phone is 371 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: kind of weak here. Uh we're out here in Iowa. 372 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: And uh, I was wondering how I took it the car? 373 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: What was it rene? Your car? Uh? If you're two 374 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: oh one GMC two thousand one GMC Oldsmobile. Okay, yeah, 375 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: so we and they wanted to a hundred twenty dollars 376 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: for a little switch in the door. Is that realistic? 377 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: How much was the part? Okay? Probably? David? Think about this. 378 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: How old is that car? How old is the two 379 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: thousand one? Nineteen years old? Yeah, my wife told me 380 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: to get some w D four from my back. Well, 381 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: I listen, brother, I'd be thrilled that they still had 382 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: the part for a nineteen year old car. Well, I 383 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: wonder where he's gonly good? Well, that's just it, and 384 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: it's been sitting on a shelf and inventory waiting for 385 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: you to have that one car that's gonna break, and 386 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: you know not not to mention Oldsmobile is an obsolete 387 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: car company. They've been gone fourteen years, thirteen years, so 388 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: you know you're talking about listen. Well, all then maybe 389 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: they're getting it out of a salvage yard. But are 390 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: you going to find one in a salvage yard? Do 391 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: you know where there's an old sol Well, how about 392 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: hot wire? Well? Yeah, sure, go ahead, David. How much effort? Listen, 393 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: I get it, times are tough, but how much effort 394 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: are you gonna put into finding It's not a thousand 395 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: dollar switch, it's a hundred dollar switch. Yeah? Well, you 396 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: know well, is he is he telling me? Well, wait 397 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: a minute, now, is he telling you a hundred dollars 398 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: for a used one or a tondred dollars for a 399 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: new one? Yeah? Well, yeah, so the story changes. You 400 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: have to go do your homework. You've gotta do a 401 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: little more research. You gotta you gotta ask him. Listen, 402 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: how much is the switch? How much is the labor? 403 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: It's easily a half hour of time to take a 404 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: door panel apart. Easily. That's on a bed. That's on 405 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: a good day. All right, It's it's a half hour 406 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: to take a door panel apart and swap a switch. 407 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: So what are we talking now? I'm in I guess 408 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: I think you're passed. I think yeah, you're probably right 409 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: around there. That doesn't That doesn't work, David, Well, listen, listen. 410 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: You know what. You're not calling because I'm gonna tell 411 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,120 Speaker 1: you what you want to hear. I'm gonna tell you 412 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: what you need to know. You know what, Well, yeah, 413 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to hear your voice and make sure you're 414 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: still alive up there. I'm still alive up here. What 415 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: else would go wrong? Well, you gotta take care and 416 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: you stay out of the way of the buyers. Yeah, absolutely, 417 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: I'm I'm actually they actually admitted on the radio that faith, 418 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: uh in some kind of a god or you know, 419 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: helps It sends signals through the brain and the brain 420 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: starts to, uh take care of the body. So I believe. 421 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: I believe that, David, you take good care of I 422 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: pray for everybody. Thank you for the whole United States. 423 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: I have to live here. Well, thank you, David, and 424 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: we're glad to have you. You take good care and 425 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: be safe out there. Let's go over to Let's go 426 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: over to gym in Maine. Twelve Kia Sorrento. Hey, Jim, 427 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: welcome to the car. Doctor, sir, how can I help? 428 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: Thank you for taking my call? Yeah, he said. I 429 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: have a two thousand twelve Kia surrental Alex all wheel drive. 430 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: It's a six cylinder motor. But the last year been 431 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: having some issues and constantly consistently with the charging system. 432 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: It seems like every couple of days this battery's dead 433 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: to jump and we've replaced the battery and recently have 434 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: replaced the alternator and have had it tested afterwards. It 435 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: seems to be putting out what it needs to, but 436 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: something is continuously drawing this battery and we just can't 437 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: figure it out. Okay, So so who's we You? You? Yourself? 438 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: Are you and a mechanic or you know who's doing this? 439 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: Well me and a friend of mine who works on cars. 440 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: So let me just hold your feet to the fire 441 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: for a second and I'll be gentle. But before you 442 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: change the alternator, did you test it was it? Was 443 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: it charging? Um? It was charging, but didn't seem as 444 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: if it was giving enough of a charge. It was down. 445 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: The alternator was putting out about twelve point four volta 446 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: And what's the new alternator? What's the new alternator putting 447 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: out about? It fluctuates between thirteen three and thirteen five 448 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: and that's you know, it should typically be a vault 449 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: higher at least at a minimum. So it sounds like 450 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: you legitimately had a bad alternator, all right. So that's 451 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: number one. The other thing I always like to look at, 452 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: if you've got a way to measure it, is what's 453 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: the current output of that alternator? Because we all know 454 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: that just because you replaced it. What is news stand for? 455 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: Do you know what news stands for? Jim? I don't, 456 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: but I think I'm gonna find out. Yeah, new never 457 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: ever worked all right, so you know, you know they're 458 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: not used parts, they're field tested. So sometimes used parts 459 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: are better than new parts. It depends. But the point 460 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: the point becomes, we want to do a voltage test, 461 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: and we want to see what sort of amperage or 462 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: current output we can get out of that alternator. And 463 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: we also like to see we'd also like to do 464 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: a voltage test and a current test underload. Now you 465 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: know you can. You can use a very high piece 466 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: of high tech piece of equipment UM, a carbon pile 467 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: machine or or there's other methods for testing batteries and 468 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: charging systems. UM. If you want to read about it, 469 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: just get out to believe it's Associated Equipment dot com 470 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: and you can read about or just Google search associated equipment. Uh. 471 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: They're the makers of probably the best charging system and 472 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: battery test equipment in the country, probably close to the 473 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: world in my opinion. But UM, you know you want 474 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: to read about testing procedures that will tell you so 475 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: you know. The other thing to be aware of here 476 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: is once you've established yes, now it's charging, and you 477 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: believe that battery is good, you put a new battery 478 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: in it, you load test that new battery, the battery 479 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: passes a load test, that's a question. M hm. That's 480 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: having to jump this vehicle consistently every two to three days. 481 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: Is there any other problems? And I probably created for myself, 482 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: right Sure, you ever leave you ever leave the porch 483 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: light on and not know it. And you know if 484 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: you've got a porch light on. So if you've got 485 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: an electrical drain somewhere in this car and you don't, 486 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: you can't see it with the eye, you're gonna have 487 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: to measure for it. So do you have a digital voltometer? 488 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: I know the friend of mine that's working on the 489 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: vehicle with me does. Yeah. Okay, So now we've got 490 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: to do a current draw test. He shouldn't know how 491 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: to do this, but just as a refresher, we want 492 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: to set the meter up in Milliams all right. We 493 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: want to look at Millie millie or an amperage draw 494 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: up based on Milliams on the Milliams scale. All right, disconnect, 495 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: We'll disconnect the negative battery cable. Um, sometimes I cheat 496 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: and whatever is easier to get apart, but um, you know, 497 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: we'll disconnect the negative battery cable. Hook our leads up 498 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: and look and see what sort of an amperage draw 499 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: we got. Now it's going to start out high. Um. 500 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: And just as a suggestion, you want to make sure 501 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: that you've got the keys out of the ignition. UM. 502 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: I prefer to take keys away from the car nowadays 503 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: because there are certain cars that have keep alive memory 504 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: that will just create a draw. So take the keys 505 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: and move them ten feet away from the vehicle and 506 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: then close the hood, make sure the door is closed, 507 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: open the driver's window so you can, you know, access 508 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: anything you might want to access. And at that point, 509 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: look at milliamperage draw. You've got to have less than 510 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: fifty milliams to be considered a pass. The average car 511 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: is going to be less than fifty. The average car 512 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: will go down. You know, it's got to be under fifty. 513 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: But i'd like to see you know, fifteen to twenty. 514 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: But it all depends on the car and how much, 515 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: how how many or how much how much electronics are 516 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: lack of a better way to say it are on 517 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: that vehicle. But it doesn't happen right away. It could 518 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: take anywhere from twenty minutes to two hours for that 519 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: vehicle to go to sleep, all right, now here's the kicker. 520 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: That vehicle could wake up at random. It could have 521 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: an intermittent module draw that causes that vehicle to wake up. 522 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: Put a draw on the battery. But before we go 523 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: there and talk about some of the tricks we're finding that, 524 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: let's just do an amperage draw test. See what kind 525 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: of numbers you get, and call me back next week. Okay, 526 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: all right, and we'll go from there. All right, Jim, 527 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: thank you very much. You're very welcome, sir, Good luck, 528 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: stay safe. We're in any of the card doctor eight 529 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: five zero zero. We'll be back right after this. Welcome back. 530 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: We're in any of the card doctor ate by five 531 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: five six zero zero eight five five zero zero up 532 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: next on the Car Doctor hot line. Let's go and 533 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: talk to Linda in Florida seventeen suber b U. Whoop 534 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 1: you do in my suber bru. Linda, welcome aboard, How 535 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: can I help? Thank you so much? Thank um. We 536 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: had um two occurrences on March seven. The car was warm, 537 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: it had gone about a mile down the road to 538 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: the store, and all the icons went off on the 539 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: dashboard and it's got forty two miles on it only 540 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: and the emergency brake, the A B S, the collision 541 00:28:53,160 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: avoidance lane, departure anti skid all became disabled. Okay, and 542 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: um we brought it to the super dealer here in Zarasota, 543 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: Florida immediately where we purchased it, and they tried to 544 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: do what they could, but all they could do is UM, 545 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: reset the computer and sent us on our way. And 546 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: then on a the same thing happens. And now it's 547 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: been there for seven days and they said they cannot 548 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: replicate the occurrence and therefore they cannot diagnose anything. So 549 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: they still have the car. And I don't know what um, 550 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: and I do not say this coldly, but welcome to 551 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: the world of new automobiles. Um. You know, the electronics. 552 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: This is what's going to drive the technician and the 553 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: consumer crazy going forward for the next years. So my 554 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: questions would be, if we were standing at the counter, 555 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: as this car ever been in an accident, No, okay, 556 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: no collision work of any kind, No any aftermarket accessories, nope, okay, UM, 557 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: always important, same radio, original radio that came with the car. Yeah, okay, 558 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: you know the issue is And if I were ventured 559 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: to guess from the description of modules, I would pay 560 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: very close attention to the brake system. Everything you describe 561 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: their ABS, lane departure, UM, collision avoidance UH UM, emergency 562 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: brake light you said was on right uh to me, 563 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: all centers around the brake system. Any one of the 564 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: brake sensors could replicate it. I'd be curious if I 565 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: unplugged a wheel speed sensor for the anti lock brakes, 566 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: could I duplicate the condition at least to see to 567 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: the same lights command does the vehicle exhibit the same symptoms, 568 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: and then at least I have something to look at. 569 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: Part of the problem in diagnosing it, it's it's it's 570 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: like it's like trying to fix coronavirus. Al Right, we 571 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: have no we have no previous knowledge until we can 572 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: duplicate it and see the effects of trying this or 573 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: trying that, because some of allto repair is trial and error, 574 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 1: just like fixing the virus. Um for lack of a 575 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: better way to say at this time and age. But 576 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: you know they have they have deep resources, have they 577 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, have they talked to Subaru tech support. You 578 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: can't be the only person, I mean, unless it's lucky you. Um, 579 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: you can't be the only person in the continental United States, Linda, 580 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: that's got this particular car, that's got this particular problem. 581 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: They've got to have seen this somewhere in the data bank. 582 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: All right, it's it's it's one of the reasons why 583 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: mechanics use a database, at least in my opinion, the 584 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: better ones that are going to do the research, because 585 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: fixing cars today is research. It's not just yeah, we 586 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: know what it is. It's going to be this or that. 587 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: Here's a car where you've got a condition. You can't 588 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: replicate it, you can't duplicate it, you can't find anything wrong. 589 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: I could sit here and say, hey, did they try 590 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: twisting the wiring harness around? That They go around and 591 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: double check connections and make sure all the harnesses are 592 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: seated properly, and those aren't bad things to do, all right? 593 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: This is this is this is no different. Have you 594 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: ever had a and this is this Maybe this is 595 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: a poor example, but have you ever had a light 596 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: fixture in your house act up where it doesn't always 597 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: come on, or it flickers sometimes, or or maybe you've 598 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: got a bad phone, a bad connection where you've got 599 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: static on the line, and they'll come out and they'll 600 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: what do they do. They check all the connections, They 601 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: look at the harness, they visual everything. Is everything plugged in? 602 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: Is everything seated? Before we even go to component level, 603 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: because component level you've got so many components in those 604 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: four or five systems that you're describing to me. You 605 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: would you would randomly, you would intermittently randomly replace half 606 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: the car can't do that. So your your questions to 607 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: them are as the guy listen, this sounds like, doesn't 608 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: it sound like one system could be triggering all these lights? 609 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: Because that's what I think is going on here. Um uh, 610 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: you know, and ask them if we unplug one of 611 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: the wheel speed sensors, could we see what would happen? 612 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: How would the car react to that? It's it's no 613 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: different than it's it's no different than a doctor. You're 614 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: going to a doctor and saying, Doc, my elbow hurts, 615 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: my my, my, my, my, My knee hurts, my back hurts, 616 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: my hip hurts. Every time I touched them, it hurts, 617 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: all right. He's looking for the common thread and in 618 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: that case, your finger is probably broken. That's why he's 619 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, you're touching yourself. Your fingertip is busted. Um, 620 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: so we're looking for the common three we're looking we're 621 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: looking for the broken fingertip. If you unplug a wheel 622 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: speed sensor, does it turn on and duplicate those lights? Okay? 623 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: If it doesn't, let's create a failure in one of 624 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: those systems and go through each one of those systems 625 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: that the lights come on for. How does that? How 626 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: does that cause the vehicle to react? At least it 627 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: gives you some hierarchy of failure, some probability of failure. 628 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: All Right, I gotta go. I'm up against the clock. 629 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: But try those things. Let me know how it works out. 630 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here to offer you anything I can. 631 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm glad to talk to you anytime. All right, Linda, 632 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: you take good care. We're a nating the Car Doctor. 633 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Welcome back nat Car Doctor. 634 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: By the way, I should finish out the hour talking 635 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: about this, so at the top of the hour, if 636 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: you go back, if you're podcasting, or if you want to, 637 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: you can podcast um get out to get out to 638 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: the podcast site, go out to our Car Doctor show 639 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: dot com click on go to the podcast. UM. What 640 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: I was talking about? So Keith brought in his motor home. 641 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: I didn't tell you the rest of that story. Keith 642 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: brought in his motor home and um or his workhorses 643 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: two thousand four gmc workhorse chassis. And I was diagnosing 644 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: a mass airflow centor fault code and it turned is 645 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: out it was a performance fault to P zero one 646 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: on one, and it turns out, you know, I'm looking 647 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: at it and we're going through some basic evaluation. And 648 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: I could see where the oil, the oil filled cap 649 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: is right in front of me and the air and 650 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: take duc toes goes down to the left and comes 651 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: forward about six inches for the mass airflow sensor to 652 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: pick it up. And I could see the stain of 653 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: oil running down the duck. And what happened was somebody 654 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: been ating oil over time. The oil was on the duct, 655 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: the oil got down to the sensor, it creeped its 656 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: way into the sensor and ruin the mass airflow sensor. 657 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: Be careful with that motor oil, folks. I'm rondinading in 658 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: the car doctor, reminding you until the next time. Good 659 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you