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Hold ahead, 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:06.680 he got jacked. 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:12.000 This is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:13.440 and Gilbert Smurry's. 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:16.400 Gonna score touchdown Slim to the ground by Buddha Baker. 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:19.400 Like a torpedo, he keeps flying into the back deal. 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:25.000 The Rage is brought to you by santan Ford and 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.200 Gilbert right on the Price right on the corner of 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.760 the Santan two oh two Freeway in val Vista Seek 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:36.760 your Ticket to Great Seats, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.360 Visit Azycardinals dot Com Slash Podcast. 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:46.560 All Red Sea is rising up, Dude, You're rising Vision 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.000 Flurry Rage, take it Ober. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.800 Here's Paul CALVICI I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:54.240 I'm telling you I'm ready. 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.360 And Ron Woolfley. It doesn't get any better than that. 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:06.840 The NFL regular season might stop. The Big Red Rage 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:14.160 does not the original Thursday Night Football No Winter Advisories 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:17.920 here in the az to postpone. This edition all presented 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.680 by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santane Ford, Paul Calvec, 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.240 Ron Wolfley, soon to be joined by Cardinals tight End 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.319 coach Ben Steele, all, we have quite a bit to 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:32.679 talk about with a position coach of Trey McBride and company. 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.399 That is straight ahead, Ron Wolfe, did you know, speaking 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:39.160 winter advisories, that this whole buffalo thing and now they're 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.759 expecting yet another winter storm to hit over the weekend 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.640 and they already had the game postpone last week. Do 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:47.919 you know the name of the guy who's the key 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:49.880 to the Bills playoff run? 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:50.559 Uh? 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.120 No, it goes he goes by the name Squirrel. 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:54.000 Squirrel. 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:58.920 I read this earlier today. Hands well, sort of. He's 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:05.760 Josh Allen's name, and he's a retired farmer who win 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:09.400 needed is called upon to dig the Bills quarterback out 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.000 of his own driveway and get him out of his 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.519 own place and to the stadium, either for practice and 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:15.960 for games. 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.480 WELLI there are guys I know that live in Orchard 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.280 Park or East Aroar somewhere out there. They've got some 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:25.320 acreage and suddenly they've got I don't know, one hundred 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:29.600 yards of driveway. And suddenly, if it starts to snow 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.960 and you get six to eight inches, or maybe you 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.679 get six feet, you're in trouble. And you got to 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.959 call your neighbor to come and bail you out. 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.240 In fact, it was so bad earlier this week that 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.840 they had a travel ban in Orchard Park and all 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.240 the surrounding towns ron Willfleet, and yet somehow all the 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:50.600 Buffalo Bills made it to practice. So apparently they allowed 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.000 the Bills to hit the road obviously because they've got 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:56.000 a big playoff game come up against Kansas City. And 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.680 so there you go. There's your winter update. And of 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.120 course Cardinals do go to Buffalo next year. So all 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.560 the sideline reporters, we hope, you know, on behalf of 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.040 all of us that that game is a mid season 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:07.959 instead of late season. 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:08.680 Here comes hooping. 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.119 Yeah, all right, so here we go Cardinals. They're under 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:15.280 the off season, and the question becomes, all right, what's next? 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.880 We know last off season there was a lot of change. 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:19.520 We had our. 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:23.840 Hashtag no allegiances. As of right now, only eight draft 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.799 picks remain from the last four years. That's a thirty 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.000 two draft picks. Only eight remain. It's sure to be 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.880 fewer than that by the time next season starts. And 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:37.320 guess what this roster coming up this year? If nothing else, 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.240 Now that they has a year under his belt as 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.480 head coach. They know what to expect. Year's your head coach, 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:42.520 Jonathan Gannon. 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:46.360 Who's ever back here in twenty twenty four? They understand 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:51.160 what's expected and how we operate. And if they're back here, 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.520 I feel really comfortable myself and mine and the coaching 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:58.840 staff feels really comfortable about their roles. But I always say, like, 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:01.760 the price of admission is team and then you. And 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:03.640 if they're back here in twenty four, they have that. 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.640 See, that is the beautiful thing, Paul. Right now, that 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:10.480 is the beautiful thing about this The foundation of this 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:14.440 culture has been laid. It has so the foundation it 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.760 was all about, okay, what kind of football are we 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:19.880 going to play here? And if we're going to play 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.640 this kind of football here, what kind of football player 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.000 do we need to go get? That is the foundation 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.599 right now. Now, what's the next step, Paul, What is 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.640 the next thing to do? I think Manti asen Fort 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.400 and Jonathan Gannon and the coaching staff. Of course, the 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:41.360 entire organization has got to start building vertically. Somebody's got 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:43.640 to bring the two by fours in right now. The 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.560 foundation is there. Now you have to build, and you 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:49.760 have to build a house vertically. 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.040 By the end of the season, the Cardinals were the 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.480 third youngest team in the NFL. You know, the youngest 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.920 team in the NFL right now, Green Bay Wow. Second 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:01.960 youngest team the La Rams, who who started in three 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.520 and six and then won seven out of eight and 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:06.920 went into the playoffs and had that narrow loss of Detroit. 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.560 We'll get into that a little bit later. But now, 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.120 at least do you have the answer to a couple 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.760 of questions, what do you want to be as a team? 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:14.200 Yes? 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.200 Who is going to be part of this team? And 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.520 or who is needed? At least now you have some questions. 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:22.880 Where is a year ago? At this time all you 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.039 had were questions, Okay, what is this head coach all about? 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.360 Are these players going to be? And you don't really know. 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:30.799 And I said this earlier this week and Cardinals underground. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.640 You can agree or disagree, and I know you will, 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.719 but you don't truly know what you have as a 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.560 head coach and a general manager until the regular season starts. 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:41.760 Until you get regular season snaps. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:42.000 Right. 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.520 Craig Dorsch barely made the fifty three by the end 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:47.960 of the year, He's one of your key contributors. So 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.760 you never would have expected that when the season started. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.240 You need regular season snaps. 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.440 Yes you do, Pauli, there's no doubt about that. But 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.599 the foundation has been late. And when I say that, 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:01.120 once again, I'm talking about football players. They already know 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.640 they have a really good idea when they look at 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.159 the roster, and I'm talking about JG and Monty assin 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.640 Fort and the coaching staff. When they look at the roster, 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.400 they already know do you want that guy back? Do 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.479 we want this guy back? And this guy proved he 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:18.240 belongs here. Whatever it is, it's football and football players ball. 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.520 When I talk about building vertical pull now, it's time 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:23.920 to go and identify the guys who are going to 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.040 be a good fit for the foundation that is that 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.520 has been laid. They're going to be a good fit, 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:33.200 but they're more talented. That's what you've got to do now. 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:38.240 Building vertical means going out and bringing more talented players 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:41.279 in to build on the foundation that you have. 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.000 All Right, So there's Kramitt vertical, which is the run game. 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.680 Then there's build it, build it vertical. Okay, here's the 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:51.280 quarterback Kyler Murray. Just on the leadership from the top down, 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.200 a new head coach and a new GM. 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.960 It's like refreshing, just you know, to have you know, 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.480 guys up stairs that you know believe in it and 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:03.080 really to it and hold everybody accountable. You know, it 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.120 trickles down, you know, starts at the top. You know. 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.240 I think every great organization business understand you know, it 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.160 starts at the top and the guys really believe in 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.280 what they appreciate. You know. I'm very confident in what 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:14.120 we got going. 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:18.760 There's that word again, accountability. People ask about, Okay, well, 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.080 what is the difference with Jonathan Gann and maniasin for 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:24.000 That's the first word I start with. That's the word 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.600 that Michael Bidwell, the team owner, cited in making the 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:30.720 coaching change last off season that needed to be addressed, 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.160 that needed to be instituted do a greater degree. And 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:35.760 I think what you saw over the course of the 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:39.560 year was finding those guys willing to buy in to 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:43.119 that accountability and those who are not were no longer 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:43.560 with the team. 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.560 Listen, I call it pads. Okay, I've heard you. 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:50.840 Know an acronym pads physical. 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.480 P It starts with people physical. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.880 You're looking at me like I should write this down. 0:07:55.680 --> 0:08:01.240 I'm just saying exactly, Okay, for accountability, d for discipline, 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:06.080 S for smart. That's what you want on your football player. 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:10.320 You want them to be physical, accountable, discipline, and smart. 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.840 That's what you need. Pads is what they Now, you 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.920 know what, You've got guys who are checking those boxes. 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.280 Now you've got to go out and you gotta find 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.280 more guys to do that. And that's what manti ascid for. 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.840 That's why the draft, that's why having eleven picks in 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:30.560 this draft coming up is so critical because I guarantee you, 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:34.559 whether the guy is a cornerback, whether he's he's a safety, 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:38.439 whether he's a center, a guard, he a full back, Paul, 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:40.840 whomever it may be that you're going to bring in 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:45.800 these doors, he's gonna check all of those boxes right there, 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.640 or they're not gonna bring him in. That's my hot tag, Paul. 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.320 They're not going to bring him in if he doesn't 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.400 check every one of those boxes. Whether it's a free 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.080 agent that you sign in the offseason, or whether it's 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:03.520 a kid you're going to draft out of Kansas. 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.920 Pads, physical, accountable, discipline, smart. Why do I have this 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:06.800 feeling that you have that on a white grease board 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.560 and they are woefully garage for your eighth grader vetter. 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:14.640 All right, it's actually on the computer. I see. 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.560 Well, look you I mean the Cardinals rookie class. To 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.480 your point, the Cardinals know what they want. They led 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.000 the NFL with eleven rookies that started at least one 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:27.360 game that combined for an NFL high sixty four starts 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:31.720 by rookies. And we all know that you can draft measurables. 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:37.960 But it's the person, it's the mentality. It's when Ammania 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.800 Sapport says, you know what, we met with Garrett Williams 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.880 and we knew after fifteen minutes he was our sort 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.240 of player. We met with a Michael Wilson and we 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:51.120 knew he had our sort of mentality. So up and 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.199 down the draft class, look at all the contributions and 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.080 if you can stack another draft class this year like 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.760 you did last year. To your point, that is how 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.000 you build it vertical, correct, that's. 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.280 What you do. You build it vertical. You build on 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:08.080 the foundation. Now it's time to bring in more talent. 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.520 Hey join the Airs on a cardinal season ticket priority 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:15.400 list today twenty twenty four. Opponents include the Bears, Chargers, Patriots, Jets, 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:17.880 Lions Commanders, and of course the NFC West. Just go 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:21.480 to Azycardinals dot com slash priority list. All right, Ben 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.559 Steel tight ends coach. We'll talk about Trey McBride and 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.079 more when we come back on the Big Red Rage 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.079 presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.760 Trey McBride has been one of the best receiving tight 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:35.680 ends in football. 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:40.200 Tray McBride grows strong grasshopper near sight. 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:41.720 It is undercron comin. 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:43.560 It's at the ten yard. 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:44.319 Line by mccride. 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.880 First Cardinal tight end in thirty four years with a 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.679 one hundred yard receiving game. 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:54.760 Oh my goodness, Trey McBride, have a day, baby. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:59.000 McBride fighting for the first down at the two. He's 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.640 still pushing the pile. Kenny pushes it into the end zone. 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:06.640 Put it dutch down. Trey McBride all muscle buyer's lap 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:07.600 in the end zone. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:09.080 It is caught by McBride. 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:10.280 Hey, it's a touchdown. 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.080 Big time play by Trey McBride. 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:16.400 Caught inside the five yard line by mccride for a 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:17.160 first down. 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:20.839 We want to talk about a vertical game, and Trey 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.360 McBride went up and grabbed that ball. That was an 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:25.520 elite catch. 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:27.800 That was spectacular. 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:29.679 What a beautiful grab by mccride. 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:34.080 Nice catch by Trey McBride. McBride with that catch sets 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:38.320 the Cardinals single season record for most receptions by a 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:43.440 tight end. His second NFL season has been phenomenal. 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:47.040 And it continues no doubt. NFL is all about what 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:51.680 opportunity and when you get one, and sometimes you only 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:56.920 get one, you better seize thy opportunity. And Trey McClay, 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.840 as we call him, led the Cardinals not only in catches, 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:01.959 he was second in receiving yards. He was top ten 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.120 in both categories in the NFL. And we have his 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.319 position coach here on this edition of The Big Red 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.840 Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert we are santan Ford, 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.720 Ben Steele joins us over a decade in the NFL, 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.040 and you're nodding, it's good to hear Trey mcbriden highlights 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:18.560 it is. 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.520 I hope he doesn't hear that montage that you guys 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.480 just played with. I keep telling him he's only as 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.800 good as his last play. So yeah, tremendous year for 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:27.079 the guy. 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.760 I'm super proud of him, you know, It's funny because 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.240 it seems like the guys in that room keep him 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.360 in line and keep him humble, because every time I'm 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.320 over in that area of the locker room, they're giving 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:37.040 him the business. 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.040 Yeah, they definitely do. They definitely do. 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.559 We've got a great room, you know. And Trey's a 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.400 humble enough guy himself. He's not gonna get away from him. 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.679 But you know, there's times that I remind him every 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:48.800 single day. And it was after his first one hundred 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.439 yard game. I told him, I was like, yeah, great game, 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:52.520 he had one great game. 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:53.280 Like who cares? 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.320 The NFL is about consistency, like you said, So I'm like, 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.880 you got to do it again, you know. You know 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:00.920 that's something in the stretch line. I'll come by and 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:02.760 tell him, Hey, great ones show up every day. It's 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:04.920 not just like on Sundays. So today we got to 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:09.080 work right there. He just and he he puts it. 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:12.080 He put it, He puts the work in, and you know, 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.120 tribute to him. I'm just super proud of the guy. 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.200 So talk a little bit about the season that he had, 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.760 how he started the season and and where did he 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:21.000 grow the most. 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.760 Coach, Well, you know, coming into the season, obviously was 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.000 a little bit of a of a difficult spot for 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.000 him to be in, you know, being in the shadows 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.880 of Zach Ertz coming back off of his injury, and 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:33.920 then when Zach got hurt again and eventually went on 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.360 ir you know, Trey got his shot and he took 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:37.920 advantage of it, and I knew he would, and he 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:39.920 didn't say anything. He just kept working and kept his 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.839 head down. So I'm super proud of him for that. 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:44.680 And I told him that at the time, like, hey, 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.160 your time is gonna come, and when it does, like 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.760 it's gonna be huge, and and it was, and he 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:53.560 wasn't too big for it. And he, you know, like 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:55.680 I said, he does the little things that it takes 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.520 to be great. And hopefully that continues. I think it will. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:00.160 How did he. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.360 Great out, you know, week in and week out, I mean, 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:06.160 because what we saw were some spectacular plays at times, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:07.720 but we also saw a guy who was hard on 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.720 himself as a sideline reporter. It's amazing how hard he 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.880 was on himself at times on the sideline. So I'm 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.080 just curious, you know, what did you make and how much. 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:16.600 More is there? 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.600 How much more potential is there going forward? In his 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:19.760 game that was only year two. 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.360 Yeah, there's a ton of potential still there, you know, 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.920 and even the games that he you know, has the 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.680 stat lines that are super high like his his Really 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.480 his last two games I thought were his two best 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.320 games of the year because he didn't just do the 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.880 pass catching part of playing a tight end. And to me, 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:37.840 that's what a tight end is. It's not a one 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.720 dimensional I'm just a slow wide receiver. I don't block anybody. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.800 I'm a dual threat. And everyone at the combine when 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.160 I ask him who's like the most impressive tight end 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.040 the league, they all say George Kiddle. Why because he 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.800 blocks and he catches the ball obviously, and he's not 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.760 always the go to guy in San Francisco, so you know, 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.080 and Trey really works to do both, and he can 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.200 do both, and he does both, and he's gonna stick 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.200 his head in there. And I mean, he had some 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.080 really good blocks in those last two games. I don't 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.400 know if they were the best stat line. I know 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:07.680 they weren't the best that he had this year, but 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:11.120 by far he grated wise as far as blocking and 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:12.960 just being a complete tight end, it was. 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:13.960 It was unbelievable. 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:17.080 Well, guess what. Wolf cited it during the broadcast, especially 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.720 as the season war on, and then the head coach 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.640 had as much to say about Trey McBride's blocking. 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:24.960 He's a complete player in his mind. 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:25.800 He would tell you this. 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.880 To take the next step of being a completely dominant 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.760 player at that spot. I think he wants that to 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.520 be a little more consistent. But he does an excellent 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.920 job in there with that improves every week. 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.520 And there you go. Jonathan Gann, Yeah, you know what, coach. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.240 I tell him all the time. Do not just be 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.280 a pass receiving tight end. 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.880 I told him, I have heard that. I've heard you 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.920 say that on the radio before. Yes, I promise you, 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:54.560 if I have anything to do with it, he will not. 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:57.640 And I can tell that, and I can see why 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.320 he's gotten better because he's got a coach that is 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.240 demanding that wide Coach, would you ever lower the bar 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:07.160 for him? It's always raised the bar right. He's capable 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:07.960 of doing. 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:08.560 It, no question. 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:12.000 And it helps our team. Y is on a first 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.840 and second down, If we know that you're only going 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.840 to be in there to catch the ball, like, it 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:18.920 doesn't help us in the run, game winner, play action 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:22.400 and all that compliments itself. So you know that's the 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.440 biggest part as for me as a tight end coach 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.400 that I want out of a guy is to be 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.280 able to and willing to work at both. 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.040 Yeah, you know, for me, eleven personnel is such a 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.200 huge part of a lot of NFL teams today, even 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.280 in rundown situation first and ten second and one to 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:42.119 six eleven personnel one back, one tight end, three wide receivers. 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.080 That to me, you've got to be capable of doing 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:49.320 both out of eleven personnel running the ball or throwing 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.840 the ball, and that tight end is so critical, as 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.800 you know, coach, in that eleven personnel, if you're going 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.200 to run the ball, you better have a true stud 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:01.400 tight end who can do both. Tray is that guy. 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:02.720 He is that guy. 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:04.760 And it's the same thing on third down when you 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:06.520 know you want to be in a seven man protection 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.879 and you got to bring in your jumbo tight end 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.800 or whoever that is. You know that the teams are 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.600 gonna a lot of times pressure more so, like we 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.320 actually had an audible against the Eagles and we were 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.679 in a seven man protection. Tray came down, sealed the 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.480 end and we scored a touchdown. So yeah, you got 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.800 to be multi multi as a tight end for the 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:27.800 sake of the offense. 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:30.880 And hey, how about his tight end coach? Right, I mean, 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.600 if you're looking at his blocking, I would think you're 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.880 the guy to be mentoring and tutoring im. Considering your background. 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:38.879 You look at your resume, tell us about just some 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.840 of your experience because you've been an on line coach 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:43.120 along the way as well, right. 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:44.600 M h yeah, I h. 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.560 The last two years I was working with the offensive 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.119 line as the assistant on line coach in Denver and 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:54.000 in Minnesota coach tight ends before that in Atlanta and 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.400 Tampa Bay, but former player, former tight end as well. 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.400 And you know that was also something for me as 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.679 a player, is you know, I was mainly a special 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.480 team's role playing guy. But you know, for a tight 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:07.399 end in this league, to be able to be in 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:10.560 there every single down, that's what I want and that's 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:11.199 what you know. 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.720 I'm here to do special teams? Are you kidding me? 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.680 Right down? Don't get me started on that, coach? 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:17.040 All right? 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:21.080 I tell you can we bring the kickoff back coach, 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.840 no question, Oh my goodness, we gotta do something about. 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.880 It, no question. That bothers me as well. 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:28.879 And I talk a lot of special teams in the 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.159 tight end room, like you know, especially the guys in 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.560 the roster. I'm like, listen, special teams is about effort 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.480 and just willing to go hit somebody in the mouse 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:40.720 And if you're not the starting tight end, you better 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.359 be contributing on special teams. 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.880 And on that note right there, tell us a little 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.800 bit about Elijah Higgins and where do you see the 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.800 upside for this guy? How much better can he get? 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.159 I'd like to see him put some weight on as well. 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.439 No question, Yeah, I'd like to see him put some 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:56.280 weight on for sure. 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:58.600 Right how much? Coach? Like, what do you think? 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.399 I mean eight to ten? I think he could hold that. 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.120