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Speaker 1: Hi, gain everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast.

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Speaker 2: The I'm Coming Home. I'm Coming Home.

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Speaker 1: Addition, As I catch up with this week's ruler of

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Speaker 1: the Jungle, the one and only Adriel Jeremiah Green, we

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Speaker 1: reminisce about his remarkable decade in Cincinnati, discuss the Bengals

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Speaker 1: track record for drafting great wide receivers, and talk about

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Speaker 1: the team's current stars, Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. I

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Speaker 1: think you'll enjoy hearing what AJ has to say. Then

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Speaker 1: I'll look ahead to the Baltimore game with Logan Wilson

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Speaker 1: and Ravens. Broadcaster Jerry Sandusky and Dave Lapham joins me

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Speaker 1: for a closer look at why Joe Burrow struggled so

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Speaker 1: badly in Week one. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought

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Speaker 1: the Jungle. That's the name of a new coffee table

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Speaker 1: book about the Bengals that was written by my friend

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Speaker 1: James Rapine. It's a comprehensive season by season look at

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Speaker 1: Bengal's history with vivid color photographs and some fun stuff

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Speaker 1: like all decade teams in Bengals trivia. And I was

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Speaker 1: flattered when James asked me to write the foreword. If

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Speaker 1: are sold. Now, let's get to my first guest, who

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Speaker 1: is frequently mentioned in that book. Now, an I formation

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Speaker 1: backfield on first and ten, play action fake.

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Speaker 3: open h Green catches it the eighteen.

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Speaker 1: It's a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: For Adriel Sharamiah Green his eighth consecutive game with a

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Speaker 3: touchdown catch on a beautiful fifty seven yard bomb from.

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Speaker 1: The red rifle to play action fake. Dalton sets up

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Speaker 4: He rangs it deep for a wide up at AH

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Speaker 4: Green catches instide lett him go hit the twenty to

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Speaker 4: ten the fun touchdown. Bengals eighty one yards to eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Boyit out to the right. Here's a pass to.

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Speaker 3: AJ wiggles out of an ankle tackle and runs into

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Speaker 3: the end zone for a Bengals touchdown. Great yak yards

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Speaker 3: after catch produces a touchdown for Adriel Jeremiah Green. Dalton

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Speaker 3: takes a shotgun snap against a five man rush. He's

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Speaker 3: gonna fire, teach. AJ Green is open. He bobbles it.

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Speaker 3: He's done it. That's the funny wait cut. He's still

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Speaker 3: running ten five touchdown Adriel Jeremiah Green seventy seven yards.

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Speaker 3: The former juggler as a kid made a juggling catch

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Speaker 3: and took it to the house to give the Bengals

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Speaker 3: a twenty one to sixteen lead. On first and ten,

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Speaker 3: Dalton fakes to mix hims a eye Indeed. BJ Green

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Speaker 3: catches at the buffalo forty spretty torment on the field

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Speaker 3: of the vine and five touchdown seventy seven yards. Andy

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Speaker 3: Dalton finding AJ Green, who roasted the rookie cornerback true

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Speaker 1: White boyd goes in motion. Dalton back to throw, steps up,

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Speaker 3: Bengals has Ammy. Dalton floated a high rainbow fifty four

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Speaker 1: It's a four man rush AJ gunfield for a J Green.

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Speaker 4: He cutches in and goes into the end zone.

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Speaker 3: Touchdown Bengals a twenty five yard touchdown and the Bengals

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Speaker 1: Dalton back to throw. We're down to five seconds left

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Speaker 4: Is Baba yeah cod hey Jas takes the catch on.

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Speaker 3: The ricochet hail Mary, a forty nine yard touchdown pass

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Speaker 3: Adriel share Amiah Green.

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Speaker 1: AJ Green announced his retirement in February and finished his

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Speaker 1: career number two in Bengals history in catches, receiving yar

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Speaker 1: never heard Bengals fans more excited about the selection than

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Speaker 1: they are this week for one of the greatest leaders

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Speaker 2: You know, I was a little surprised because it was, uh,

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Speaker 2: Me and I it was just like honor man. I

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Speaker 1: Sometimes when a player leaves in free agency, there's a

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Speaker 1: but that certainly did not appear to be the case

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Speaker 2: I think for me, it's just we didn't leave on

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Speaker 2: And I understood the business side of football. Like I said, man,

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Speaker 2: it took care. Took care of me for ten years,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of people don't last ten years in

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Speaker 2: me my chance. And you know, they're just great people.

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Speaker 2: The Brown family are great people, man. And I you know,

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Speaker 2: there's always out of respect and and that's the least

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Speaker 2: I can do, is you know, come back and uh

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Speaker 2: be a fan and and uh just I just want

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Speaker 1: When you left, you didn't really get a chance to

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Speaker 1: say goodbye in person, and Bengals fans didn't get a

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Speaker 1: chance to give you the tribute that they would have

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Speaker 1: there's a little bit of that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, you know, when you leave and you

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Speaker 2: because you've you envisioned yourself leaving on a higher note.

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Speaker 2: But that wasn't the case. So coming back here after

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Speaker 2: It's better than I'm being somewhere else. And then I

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Speaker 2: got to come back. But to be done with football

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Speaker 2: Green is unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Let's turn the clock back to April of twenty eleven.

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Speaker 1: The Panthers take Cam Newton with the first pick, the

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Speaker 1: Broncos take Von Miller with the second, the Bills take

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Speaker 1: mister big stuff Marcel Darius with a third, and now

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Speaker 1: the Bengals are on the clock. Did you know you

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Speaker 1: were going to be the pick? And what do you

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Speaker 1: remember about that night? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Man, the crazy thing. I didn't know I was going

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Speaker 2: to the Bengals because I had got a call from

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Speaker 2: Atlanta and I'm like, oh, are you going to Atlanta?

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Speaker 2: But I guess it's somebody playing tricks on me, like

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Speaker 2: we made the pick, Like I'm made from my phone

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Speaker 2: at the four or four and I'm like, what in

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Speaker 2: the world's going on? Like Atlanta don't have the fourth pick,

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Speaker 2: but like, yeah, we're taking you. We got the fourth pick,

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Speaker 2: and I hung up. I'm like this is weird and

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Speaker 2: then I got a five to one to three number

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Speaker 2: number four. So I'm like, what is going on? And

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Speaker 2: he was like, no, You're about to be a Bengal

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, okay, And it's exciting, man, just

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Speaker 2: to get my name called that early. The have a

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Speaker 2: paid off and I couldn't be much more happy.

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Speaker 1: At that point, Chad Johnson was still on the Bengals roster.

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Speaker 1: He didn't get traded for a few months until after

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Speaker 1: the draft. Did you think about the possibility of you

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Speaker 1: and Chad being teammates?

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Speaker 2: Of course, I'm thinking about Chad. I'm thinking about t O.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking like Carson. I'm like, oh, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: be the young book and go out there just like

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Speaker 2: true a little bit. Don't have to be you don't

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Speaker 2: have to do too much, learn from the guy, learn

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Speaker 2: from some future Hall of famers, and uh got time

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Speaker 2: to develop. And but that wasn't the case, No, it

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Speaker 2: was not.

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Speaker 1: After picking you in round one, the Bengals obviously took

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton round two and for eight years. It was

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Speaker 1: the Andy and a J Show. Did the two of

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Speaker 1: you hit it off right away? And if so, why, Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Of course. I think for us to come in together,

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Speaker 2: you know, you when you come in with your a

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Speaker 2: guy in your class, you always create that bond. And

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Speaker 2: I think Andy and I created that bond from day one.

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Speaker 2: You know, we both come from humble beginnings, both great families,

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Speaker 2: and we both had, you know, want to win, and

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Speaker 2: he came from a great program at TCU. He did

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Speaker 2: some great things, and then we grew up, we grew

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Speaker 2: So last week we went out to dinner and uh,

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Speaker 2: it was fun, but it's just that's my guy, no

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Speaker 2: matter what. Just family.

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Speaker 1: Now, your first seven years were basically as good as

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Speaker 1: any wide receiver in NFL history. Do you have a

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Speaker 1: favorite game, a favorite moment, a favorite catch, any sort

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Speaker 1: of favorite thing that sticks out?

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Speaker 2: Andy and I were just talking about that, like, well

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Speaker 2: with you know some of our favorite moments. I think

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Speaker 2: for me it was the Seattle game when Seattle was

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Speaker 2: coming off that Super Bowl in twenty fifteen, when we

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Speaker 2: beat him at home, when I've had some great catches

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Speaker 2: and Andy was playing at the MVP level that year

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Speaker 2: before he got hurt. And then probably one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite catches probably the playoff game that night game with

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Speaker 2: the Steelers, even though we lost. That's probably one of

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Speaker 2: the highlights of my career, just scoring that potential game winner.

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Speaker 2: It didn't happen that way, but should have happened that way.

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Speaker 2: But my best catches, but Seattle game was good, and

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Speaker 2: then Baltimore when I had like two hundred yards. That

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Speaker 2: was a good game.

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Speaker 1: We beat Baltimore there to twenty seven against the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: and it's appropriate you are the ruler of the Jungle

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Speaker 1: in a game against Baltimore because you tormented the Ravens

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Speaker 1: throughout your career. John Harbaugh famously said it would be

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Speaker 1: nice just once to cover aj before he retires. Those

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Speaker 1: were good Baltimore teams. Is there are reason why defensively

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Speaker 1: they did something that kind of played into your skill set?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Man. I think they just played a lot of

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Speaker 2: main a lot of you know, you versus him, and

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Speaker 2: I think their defense is built like that. They also

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Speaker 2: start up front great corners. I know Jimmy Smith and

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Speaker 2: I always had great battles together, so I got the

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Speaker 2: best of the them a couple of times. But you know,

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Speaker 2: we used to probably wanted the hardest game, harder hitting games.

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Speaker 1: So when the Bengals made the Super Bowl two years ago,

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Speaker 1: This is the first time that you've been healthy and

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Speaker 2: But right now I'm just being my boys. I coached

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Speaker 1: I know you've been back to Cincinnati once. What are

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Speaker 1: Thank you for a decade of great football in Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Dan Aj, his wife Miranda, and their two boys will

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Speaker 1: paycoorp dot com. In last week's twenty four to three

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Speaker 1: in Joe Burrow got a haircut. This reporter would describe

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Speaker 7: People were talking about the haircut for all the kids

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Speaker 1: So Game one this year was not good for Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 6: And he needs repetition to breed comfort level just like anybody,

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Speaker 6: when he misses him, he's going to be rusty. He's

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Speaker 6: going to be a tick off. I mean, he was

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Speaker 6: a tick off. So many times he got ticked off,

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Speaker 6: you know. I mean it was just one of those,

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Speaker 6: one of those things. And look at a tape of

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Speaker 6: that game, it was amazing how he was just a

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Speaker 6: little bit inaccurate compared to the way he normally throws it.

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Speaker 6: His receivers weren't making them, they were just sort of

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Speaker 6: making the play when he was a little bit off.

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Speaker 6: They were a little bit off. He's a little bit off.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the whole thing, the whole it just snowballed

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Speaker 6: and they never got any any kind of a rhythm

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Speaker 6: or timing or anything close to it. But honestly, when

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Speaker 6: I when I watched that game again, I think that

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Speaker 6: Zach and the coaching staff decided to go to a

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Speaker 6: quick passing game because of the medical issue that Joe

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Speaker 6: was dealing with. And it's like, we don't want him

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Speaker 6: holding the football, subjecting himself to hits or having to

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Speaker 6: run around back there and not knowing what the outcome

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Speaker 6: might be. So everything was short, intermediate at best to

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Speaker 6: the perimeter passing game. And then the rain that we

458
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Speaker 6: talked about, the heavy mist made it very very difficult

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Speaker 6: to get the ball out of her hand that quickly.

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Speaker 6: He was having problems with it. Put on a glove

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Speaker 6: about the third or fourth series, had it off, had

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Speaker 6: it back on again. I mean the whole thing. The

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Speaker 6: wet ball, you know, was a little bit of a factor.

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Speaker 6: And then Schwartz's game plan was the perfect game plan.

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Speaker 6: He pressed his coverage, He squeezed the field. I mean,

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Speaker 6: he put a lot of different looks on the front

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Speaker 6: end and the back end. He inverted coverages. He had

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Speaker 6: defensive linemen playing all over inside, outside, giving different looks

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Speaker 6: and lining him up in different formations. Schematically, he caused

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Speaker 6: some communication issues and they had to eventually make adjustments.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he printed a book basically on how to

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Speaker 6: defend that short passing game, you know, and I think

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Speaker 6: bottom line is better open it up, you know, and

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Speaker 6: roll the dice a little bit in terms of what

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Speaker 6: the situation is with you. I remember saying, Dan, how

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Speaker 6: about if we throw a deep one time just to

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Speaker 6: make them defend it, just to loosen things up. How

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Speaker 6: about a deep ball? And then right away in the

479
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Speaker 6: second half, got the eighteen yard pass interference and went

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Speaker 6: deep again. It was incomplete, but at least, you know,

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Speaker 6: it made him do something different. They were just sitting

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Speaker 6: on all those short intermediate routes. And I think, I

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Speaker 6: don't think that it's not Baltimore's game. Baltimore is a

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Speaker 6: team schwartz. The schwartz has the Cleveland Browns attacking at

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Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage. They want to invert the line

486
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Speaker 6: of scrimmage. They are penetrating, they're hitting get they're attacking.

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Speaker 6: Baltimore up front is not read and react, but they

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Speaker 6: are a gap control defensive front. And on the back end,

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Speaker 6: Cleveland was playing press man and they were They had

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Speaker 6: ten guys within five yards of line of scrimmage a

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Speaker 6: ton and they were playing press man. Baltimore does not.

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Speaker 6: Baltimore plays more zone. So Baltimore is very good upfront

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Speaker 6: and very good on the back end like Cleveland is

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Speaker 6: from a personnel standpoint, but schematically they're very, very different.

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Speaker 1: The Browns did not have a bunch of sacks last Sunday,

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Speaker 1: but they did get a lot of pressure on Joep.

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Speaker 1: The average time from the snap to the Browns applying

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Speaker 1: pressure was one point nine to five seconds, less than

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Speaker 1: two seconds. That tied for the sixth fastest since they've

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Speaker 1: been measuring that stat beginning in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 6: And that's that's a stat that needs to get better. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: there's there's no question about it, and I think it

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Speaker 6: will improve. I do think the offensive line, you know,

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Speaker 6: as rusty as Joe Burrow was, there were a lot

505
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Speaker 6: of guys that were knocking rust and dust off their uniforms.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there were a lot of guys that went

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Speaker 6: out there without any live game experience in the preseason,

508
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Speaker 6: working next to each other and alongside, you know, teammates

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Speaker 6: and communicating back and forth. I mean, I think Jo

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Speaker 6: and as receivers, they were communicating again, just looking at

511
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Speaker 6: each other like what's up, just to tick off, you know,

512
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Speaker 6: it just could not quite just could not quite complete

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Speaker 6: the task and never ever got in any kind of

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Speaker 6: a rhythm, timing, tempo, None of that was there. And

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Speaker 6: I mean third down, jeez, what they go two for

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Speaker 6: fifteen and they went one for seven when it was

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Speaker 6: third and one to five one for seven. Second third

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Speaker 6: down was the third and one they convert the first

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Speaker 6: third down. Second one is a third and one they

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Speaker 6: don't convert, and then it's just three and out, three

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Speaker 6: and out, three and out. I mean they had seven

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Speaker 6: three and out possessions I believe during the course of

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Speaker 6: the football game and fifteen possessions, but the last one

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Speaker 6: was the kneel down one play. So literally half of

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Speaker 6: their possessions seven of their fourteen possessions were three and out.

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Speaker 1: So went back and did some research on how Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow has historically bounced back from the worst games of

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Speaker 1: his career. So, if you look at the three lowest

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Speaker 1: passer rating games he ever had before this one, right

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Speaker 1: in the next three games, he threw seven touchdown passes,

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Speaker 1: one pick, passer rating of ninety five. If you look

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Speaker 1: at the three lowest yardage games of his NFL career,

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Speaker 1: the three games after that, he had a passer rating

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Speaker 1: of one twenty eight point nine. So Joe Burrow has

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Speaker 1: always bounced back the next week. We anticipate that he

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Speaker 1: will against Baltimore this Sunday, but I wanted to learn

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Speaker 1: some more about how he bounces back. So I ask

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Speaker 1: this question of offensive coordinator Brian Callahan, what's Burrow like

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Speaker 1: after a bad.

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Speaker 8: Game the same as he is after a good one,

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Speaker 8: which which makes him consistent. I think that's that's the

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Speaker 8: name of the game in the NFL. You know, there's seventeen.

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Speaker 8: There's seventeen games, and you're gonna play well in some

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Speaker 8: and not in others. And some defenses are tough matchups,

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Speaker 8: and some games you play outstanding and some games you

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Speaker 8: struggle to score points. And I think as long as

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Speaker 8: you never really ride that roller coaster of emotional reactions

548
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 8: to things, and you've come in and fix it needs

549
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 8: to be fixed when you win, in you lose, and

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Speaker 8: then you move on and get ready for the next one.

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Speaker 8: And I think that's a pretty standard approach for guys

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Speaker 8: like Joe, and I think that's how our team is.

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Speaker 8: So so we have to keep doing.

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Speaker 6: The interesting thing during the pressure with Joe, you know

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Speaker 6: has talked about that. Not only is Joe that way,

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Speaker 6: the coaches, you know, Zach Taylor and Brian Callahan talk

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Speaker 6: about Joe being that way. Joe talks about them that way.

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Speaker 6: The opposite was true. Joe Borrow said that Zach is

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Speaker 6: totally consistent in his approach and there's not the roller

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Speaker 6: coaster highs and lows. Brian Callahan the exact same way.

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Speaker 6: So I do believe that as a football team, it

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Speaker 6: starts at the top with Zach to the coordinator, you know,

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Speaker 6: to the quarterback to his teammates, compartmentalize and move on.

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Speaker 6: Don't ignore it, it happened, Watch the tape, learn from it,

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Speaker 6: make any necessary adjustments, and then put it in the bank,

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Speaker 6: way back in the memory bank, and move on.

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Speaker 1: the Bengals offense struggled in Cleveland, the defense played pretty well.

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Speaker 1: The Browns only scored two touchdowns on fourteen possessions, and

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Speaker 1: one of those TV drives lasted eighteen yards. I discussed

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Speaker 1: last week's game and this week's matchup against the Ravens

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Speaker 1: with linebacker Logan. Logan is a fan. When your team

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Speaker 1: has a rough game, it lingers until the next game.

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Speaker 1: As a player, how quickly do you move on?

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Speaker 5: Twenty four hour rule.

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Speaker 9: That's our mindset, you know, learn from the mistakes that

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Speaker 9: we were in that game and learn from the good

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Speaker 9: things as well.

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Speaker 5: But it's on to Baltimore this week after twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: I've got a buddy who's a diehard Bengals fan. When

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Speaker 1: the team loses, he watches recorded episodes of America's Funniest

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Speaker 1: Home videos just so he can completely put it out

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Speaker 1: of his mind. Do you do anything like that or

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Speaker 1: do you kind of replay the game until that twenty

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Speaker 1: four hour rule is finished?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's kind of you know, replay like

590
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Speaker 9: maybe certain plays that you think you messed.

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Speaker 5: Up on that you want to be better on.

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Speaker 9: You and then just like I said, you just learned

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Speaker 9: from it, and then at the end of the day

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Speaker 9: you try to get your body right to go.

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Speaker 1: The next week, we're chatting with Logan Wilson. The defense

596
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Speaker 1: played well. You four seven punts, you had two takeaways.

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Speaker 1: If not for an eighteen yard drive in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: the Browns probably wouldn't have scored twenty points. What did

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Speaker 1: you think of the defense as overall performance?

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Speaker 9: You know, I thought we did some things really well.

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Speaker 9: I think there's some things that we still need to

602
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Speaker 9: continue to do better at. Obviously them scoring too many

603
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Speaker 9: points is the biggest thing, and just continuing to learn

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Speaker 9: from those those good things, like forcing those those turnovers,

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Speaker 9: those are huge. The more often that we can get

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Speaker 9: the ball back to our offense, the better off we're

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Speaker 9: going to be as a team. And we understand that,

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Speaker 9: and so we're always trying to find ways to hunt

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Speaker 9: the ball, and I think that's a big thing for us.

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Speaker 5: To go on moving forward.

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Speaker 1: It was a wet, sloppy day. It was obviously hard

612
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Speaker 1: to throw the ball. How was the footing?

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Speaker 5: Footing was was average to say the least.

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Speaker 9: It wasn't It wasn't horrible, but just because really because

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Speaker 9: the grass was kind of brand new. It was the

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Speaker 9: first game on that grass before it gets all torn

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Speaker 9: out throughout the year, which is probably good.

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Speaker 5: But I was not expecting it to rain that much.

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Speaker 9: I remember checking the forecast that morning it was like

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Speaker 9: fifteen percent chance of rain and just decided to rain

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Speaker 9: the whole game.

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Speaker 5: So it was it was weird.

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Speaker 1: You didn't come out. You were in for all seventy

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Speaker 1: four defensive snap snaps. Jermaine Pratt played sixty six of

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Speaker 1: the seventy four. Is that a big point pride for

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Speaker 1: the two of you, that you don't have to come out,

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Speaker 1: whether it's first down, third and long whatever.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we pride ourselves on being able to play all

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Speaker 9: three downs, and you know, We push each other within

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Speaker 9: the schemes of our defense to do things that you know,

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Speaker 9: we might not have done in the past, and we're

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Speaker 9: always trying to grow from each other and learn. And

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Speaker 9: I think that having that mindset of like just never

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Speaker 9: being satisfied has helped us grow into the players we

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Speaker 9: are and will continue to help us move forward.

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Speaker 1: We're visiting with Logan Wilson after last year's playoff lost

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City. I remember talking to Jermaine in front

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Speaker 1: of his locker and I was thinking, this is probably

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Speaker 1: the last time I do this. I didn't seem likely

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Speaker 1: that he would re sign, just because of the contract

641
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Speaker 1: situations on the team. Then on the first day of

642
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Speaker 1: free agency, signed a three year extension. Were you a

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Speaker 1: bit surprised? What was your reaction?

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Speaker 9: I mean, I was a little bit surprised too. I

645
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Speaker 9: wasn't sure if we were going to get him back.

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Speaker 9: But you know, I'm obviously exact that he came back

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Speaker 9: and that we got to continue what him and I

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Speaker 9: have going forward. And I think that, you know, we

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Speaker 9: can continue to establish ourselves as one of the best

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Speaker 9: linebacker duos in the NFL. And you know, I think

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Speaker 9: that having that continuity is so rare in this league,

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Speaker 9: you know, Like for him and I to be going

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Speaker 9: in now year four together, I think is rare to

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Speaker 9: have that. And I think that he and I both

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Speaker 9: know and trust each other of what we're going to

656
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Speaker 9: do on each play, and it helps us just play fast,

657
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Speaker 9: and you know, we can talk through things pre snap

658
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Speaker 9: that help us be on the right page, you know,

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Speaker 9: within that play.

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Speaker 1: You got your extension done about a month ago, so

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Speaker 1: you're going to be here for at least four more years,

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Speaker 1: which were thrilled about. What was that whole process like

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Speaker 1: for you?

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Speaker 5: I kind of just let my agent take care of that.

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Speaker 9: You know, at the end of the day, I was

666
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Speaker 9: just trying to to better my craft on the field

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Speaker 9: and help our defense as a whole start to gel,

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Speaker 9: you know, some new guys back there, and I really

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Speaker 9: didn't worry about it a whole lot.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 9: Obviously I was in contact with my agent and we

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Speaker 9: were exchanging words with what was going on and whatnot,

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Speaker 9: and you know, I'm very excited and exetic that it.

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Speaker 5: Was able to get done.

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Speaker 1: You're a wyoming guy. Is there a big plot of

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Speaker 1: land in your future? Will you buy horses? Will you

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Speaker 1: and your wife see the world. What are some of

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Speaker 1: the things you have planned?

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Speaker 9: I think, well, you know, we'll eventually build our like

680
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Speaker 9: forever home back there in Wyoming. I think we're trying

681
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Speaker 9: to work on that right now, but we haven't bought

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Speaker 9: any land yet. That'll be in the future.

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Speaker 5: One thing.

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Speaker 9: Not gonna worry about that stuff right now during the season.

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Speaker 9: We can look into that kind of stuff in the

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Speaker 9: off season.

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Speaker 1: Let's look ahead to this week's opponent, Baltimore. In your

688
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: first three seasons, they were going to try to run

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Speaker 1: it down your throat. Now they've got a new offensive

690
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Speaker 1: coordinator who came from the college ranks. Do you expect

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Speaker 1: them to be much different?

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Speaker 5: There'll be some differences, for sure, you know.

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Speaker 9: I think that there they'll have some stuff that their

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Speaker 9: offensive coordinator ran at Georgia, and then they'll have some

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Speaker 9: stuff that they've kind of ran in the past. It'll

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Speaker 9: be different with more past concepts. You know, we know

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Speaker 9: what to we don't mean, it's always hard to know

698
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Speaker 9: what to expect because you get preseason guys and they

699
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Speaker 9: don't always show our preseason games and they always show everything.

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Speaker 9: But they're starting to show some stuff obviously in the

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Speaker 9: Houston game, and you know, well, at the end of

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Speaker 9: the day, we'll rely on our rules and fundamentals to

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Speaker 9: adjust to whatever they throw at us.

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Speaker 1: You played these guys in back to back games at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year, final game of the regular season,

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Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs. Does it feel like you

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Speaker 1: just played Baltimore?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 9: Not really, honestly, just because it was a while ago.

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Speaker 9: But you know, I think that they're always They're always

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Speaker 9: a tough opponent. It's always those division games are always tough,

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Speaker 9: and I think we have one of, if not the

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Speaker 9: best division in the National Football League right now, and

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Speaker 9: so we always have our hands full playing him, and

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Speaker 9: we always look forward to the challenge.

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Speaker 1: In that playoff game, you had a hand, actually two

717
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Speaker 1: hands in the most famous defensive play in Bengals history,

718
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Speaker 1: the fumble into jungle. You forced it, Sam ran it

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Speaker 1: back for the touchdown. Do you have a framed picture

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Speaker 1: of it or any sort of keepsake as a memory

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Speaker 1: of that great moment.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's funny because that football that Sam ended up

723
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Speaker 9: scoring with was in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: And when the family it came down.

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Speaker 9: When I did that softball game during OTAs we went

726
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Speaker 9: down to the Canton before we left for the summer,

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Speaker 9: after which he has has finished and got to see

728
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Speaker 9: that picture in the Profoball Hall of Fame with that football,

729
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Speaker 9: So it was pretty cool to see that. I mean,

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Speaker 9: I'll always have Eventually, I'll probably get a frame photo

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Speaker 9: of that because I think that's going to be an

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Speaker 9: Alzheimer for me.

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Speaker 1: There's no question that that's going to be an Alzheimer

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Speaker 1: for all of us, and we look forward to the

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Speaker 1: next Alzheimer whenever that happens. Best of luck this week.

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Speaker 1: Thanks much for the time as always, and beat the Ravens.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate it. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: In Lamar Jackson's five NFL seasons, the Bengals have faced

739
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: the Ravens eleven times, including last year's playoff game. Baltimore

740
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: is six and one when Lamar starts and zero to

741
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Speaker 1: five when he doesn't. Lamar's missed the last three meetings

742
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Speaker 1: at pay Corps Stadium. The Bengals Booth podcast is presented

743
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,280
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744
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,720
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00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: inside the Bengals app. The Bengals appear to be in

746
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Speaker 1: good shape in terms of injuries heading into Sunday's game.

747
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: Josephsi practiced on a limited basis on Wednesday, and it

748
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Speaker 1: sounds like there's a good chance he'll be able to

749
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Speaker 1: go on Sunday. The Ravens, on the other hand, have issues.

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Speaker 1: Their best running back JK Dobbins suffered a season ending

751
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Speaker 1: achilles tear last week, and offensive lineman Ronnie Stanley and

752
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: Tyler Linderbaum both left the opener with injuries. They're considered

753
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Speaker 1: week to week. Safety Marcus Williams suffered a pectoral injury,

754
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Speaker 1: so he's definitely out, and their best cornerback Marlon Humphrey

755
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Speaker 1: had foot surgery in mid August and did not play

756
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Speaker 1: in the opener. Lap and I discussed those injuries and

757
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Speaker 1: much more with Ravens broadcaster Jerry Sandusky when he joined

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Speaker 1: us on the Bengals Game Plan Show.

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Speaker 7: Other than that, Missus Lincoln, you're gonna love the second

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Speaker 7: act of the play. Look, I think you're gonna see

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Speaker 7: the Ravens have to make a lot of ajustice on

762
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Speaker 7: the offensive line the rest of the season. They've got

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Speaker 7: adjust to the backfield. I doubt we'll see Marlon Humphy

764
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Speaker 7: since they didn't practice day, so you know Week two

765
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Speaker 7: and you know, the Ravens new offense really now becomes

766
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Speaker 7: an offense that has to adjust on the fly.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of new offense, offensive coordinator Todd Monkin plenty of

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Speaker 6: experience as a coordinator in the National Football League and

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Speaker 6: then with University of Georgia National championship run. What kind

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Speaker 6: of a coach is he, Jerry.

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Speaker 7: He's terrific. I'm so impressed with Todd Munkins because he

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Speaker 7: empowers his players and he puts He gives his players

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Speaker 7: a lot of latitude in this offense to make adjustments.

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Speaker 7: You know, Lamar for the first five years of his career,

775
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 7: play comes in thinking about a helmet, falls, the huddle,

776
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Speaker 7: run the play, whether you know it's gonna work or not.

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Speaker 7: In Monkin's offense, Lamar comes to the line. He can

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Speaker 7: adjust protection, he can read the defense. Now, he can

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Speaker 7: call audibles, and he can suggest things and so it's

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Speaker 7: much more of a conversation. It's much more. And Dave,

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Speaker 7: I don't care if you are in football broadcast, if

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Speaker 7: you sell dining room tables for a living. When the

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Speaker 7: employees feel like they are involved in the decision making,

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Speaker 7: they're going to put their heart and soul, not just

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Speaker 7: their hands in the back into it, and long term,

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Speaker 7: I think you're gonna see really good results because of that.

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Speaker 6: So you're saying he empowers people.

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Speaker 5: Huh.

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Speaker 7: Completely really impressed with Todd Monkin.

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Speaker 1: We are visiting with the Ravens radio voice Jerry Sandusky.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore has drafted some wide receivers in the first round

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Speaker 1: in recent years. It hasn't always worked out, but it

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Speaker 1: looks like it might be working out this time. Zay

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Speaker 1: Flowers taken twenty second overall. He had nine catches last week,

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Speaker 1: and based on everything I've read about training camp, sounds

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Speaker 1: like Zay Flowers is exactly what the Ravens were hoping

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Speaker 1: for when they took him, and.

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Speaker 7: It's what they've been looking for in the draft since

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Speaker 7: nineteen ninety six. They've never found that guy. They found

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Speaker 7: him in Zay Flowers. Dan, you know, the Ravens are

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Speaker 7: the only NFL team that have never drafted a Pro

802
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Speaker 7: Bowl wide receiver ever, no Pro Bowl wide receivers. And

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Speaker 7: I'm not I't believe me. I'm not elevating the rookie

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Speaker 7: to Pro Bowl already, but he's already had the best

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Speaker 7: first game of any Ravens rookie, I almost double the

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Speaker 7: number of reception. He's got quickness, he's got football IQ.

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Speaker 7: He's He's the kind of guy that if you get

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Speaker 7: him the ball in space. Remember how you felt about

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Speaker 7: Jamar Shase the first time you saw him, he realized, Okay,

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Speaker 7: he's got to get in the ball. He's going to

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Speaker 7: make plays. He's a different style than Jamar, but he

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Speaker 7: has the same quality of get him the ball some way, anyway,

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Speaker 7: he'll make plays.

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Speaker 6: What about the running game, I mean, do you think

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Speaker 6: that uh, basically Todd Munkin and John Harbaugh based put

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Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson under wraps or did Houston take away Lamar

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Speaker 6: Jackson as an option running the football when he was

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Speaker 6: doing the you know, the RPOs, his own reads and

819
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Speaker 6: that kind of thing. It will Lamar Jackson be as

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Speaker 6: big a running threat quarterback run threat as he's been

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Speaker 6: in the pastund Todd Munkin, Dave.

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Speaker 7: I think he's going to be as big a run threat,

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Speaker 7: but from a different angle. What I mean by that

824
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Speaker 7: is the in the Greg Roman offense, the read option

825
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 7: was the base of that offense. Along with power running

826
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Speaker 7: ISO's trap that was the base of the offense and

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Speaker 7: everything worked off of that. The Reid option is part

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Speaker 7: of this offense. You'll see it some weeks, it will

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Speaker 7: be a lot of weeks you don't see it. Where

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Speaker 7: Lamar's going to get his yardage is this is more

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Speaker 7: of a West Coast spread the defense horizontally offense. Well,

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Speaker 7: when you spread out of defense, you will eventually give

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Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson big running lane and if the passing opportunity

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Speaker 7: is not there, he'll get chunk yardage extending plays. And

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Speaker 7: I think you're going to start seeking this point forward

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Speaker 7: in Lamar's career, getting his running yardage as secondary not primary.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Jerry, two years ago in this rivalry, in the

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Speaker 1: two games, Joe Burrow threw for nine hunty one yards

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Speaker 1: and the Bengals scored forty one points in each game.

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Speaker 1: Last year, he never topped two twenty against Baltimore. The

841
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Speaker 1: Bengals offense never scored more than twenty. Does Baltimore feel

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00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: like it's got a pretty good formula for keeping the

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Speaker 1: Bengals offense in check?

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Speaker 7: So? I think they did last year, but I don't

845
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Speaker 7: know about this year because two years ago they felt

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Speaker 7: like they did and they gave up a thousand yards.

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Speaker 7: It's one of those things with this rivalry. There are

848
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Speaker 7: a lot of really good coaches in this rivalry. I

849
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 7: think Zach Taylor has evolved into a terrific young head

850
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Speaker 7: coach in this league. I think lou Hana Rumo is

851
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Speaker 7: one of the best defensive coordinators in the entire league.

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Speaker 7: And I think, you know, the Ravens has some really

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Speaker 7: I've told you how much I think of Mike of

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Speaker 7: Todd Monkin. Mike McDonald is now in his second year

855
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Speaker 7: and he's a terrific young coordinator. So I think we're

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00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 7: gonna see games where the defense really does a great

857
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 7: job putting lid on. But look, both of these teams

858
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Speaker 7: now have big time playmakers. We haven't even talked about

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Speaker 7: Objays as well as A Flowers, Mark Andrews. With what

860
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 7: you got in that and that received, there's gonna be

861
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 7: Sundays where defensive coordinators do great jobs, and there's gonna

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00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 7: be Sundays where playmakers make plays. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 7: involved in this rivalry is either arrogant enough or dumb

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Speaker 7: enough to think they've got the formula to stop the

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Speaker 7: other guy. Sunday in and Sunday out.

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Speaker 6: You know defensively, when I look at both of these units,

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Speaker 6: a lot healthy dose to respect for what the Baltimore

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Speaker 6: Ravens have up front, healthy dose respect respect the same

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Speaker 6: way for the Bengals and the back end. Now you know,

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Speaker 6: the Bengals have a lot of young talent in the

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Speaker 6: back end. The Ravens got some talent on the back

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Speaker 6: end as well. But the position group that doesn't get

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00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 6: talked about as much but is really good the linebackers.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Smith and Queen combined for what twenty seven

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Speaker 6: tackles in the first game. Logan Wilson and Jermaine Pratt

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Speaker 6: played at an extremely high level for the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 6: They're three down linebackers. It might come down to which

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Speaker 6: dynamic duo is the most dynamic at linebacker.

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Speaker 7: It was wild you brought it up because I was

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Speaker 7: doing game preps a little bit before I jumped on

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Speaker 7: the call with you guys, and one of the big

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Speaker 7: things that I circled was this might be the best

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Speaker 7: matchup of inside linebackers we'll see all year until we

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Speaker 7: see the Bengals again later down this year, because both

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00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 7: defenses rely so heavily. The green dot is inside that group.

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Speaker 7: For both teams. The big tackle numbers are inside that group.

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Speaker 7: The sacks are driven from that group. And when I

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Speaker 7: watched the tape, I see Jermaine Pratt, Logan Wilson doing

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Speaker 7: a lot of what I see from Rokwan Smith and

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Speaker 7: Patrick Queen. They're moving guys in front of them, They're

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Speaker 7: checking the secondary. They're the brains of the unit, They're

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Speaker 7: the heart of the unit, and they really have become

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Speaker 7: mirror groups who are huge impacts. We're going to talk

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Speaker 7: a lot Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson, but I think

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Speaker 7: the outcome on Sunday is going to be which one

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Speaker 7: of these two inside linebacker groups has a bigger impact

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Speaker 7: on the game.

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Speaker 6: And finally, and freciate you, as always, Jerry, special teams.

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Speaker 6: You can never talk about a coach harball team without

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Speaker 6: addressing the special teams because everybody knows it's so important

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Speaker 6: to him. How do you see the special teams match

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Speaker 6: up in this one?

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Speaker 7: Well, I think if either offense gets the ball the midfield,

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Speaker 7: you're a scoring age. And I'm not think Justin Tucker

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Speaker 7: and Evan McPherson have the strongest legs and the most

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Speaker 7: accurate deep legs in the NFL. The two guys I

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Speaker 7: feel bad for are the kick returners because they might

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00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 7: as well take Sunday off because unless the teams want

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00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 7: to kick it high and short and want to force

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Speaker 7: a return, there will be no kick returns in this game.

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Speaker 7: And that you know, really, when you think about it,

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Speaker 7: if you're the offensive coordinators, you can literally look at

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Speaker 7: this and say, I only have to chew up half

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Speaker 7: the field to get points. There are there aren't many

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Speaker 7: offensive coordinators who say the fifty yard line gives me

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Speaker 7: a shot at scoring, and everything in there just increases

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Speaker 7: my likelihood of points. Again, you know, these two teams

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Speaker 7: have evolved into a lot of similar ways. Great edge

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Speaker 7: pass rushers, great young quarterbacks, explosive wide receivers, terrific inside linebackers.

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Speaker 7: And you've got a third year kicker whose world class,

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Speaker 7: and we've got a twelve year kicker whose world class.

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Speaker 7: There's a lot of parallels and Mike variance, Dave, and

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Speaker 7: I think you've probably feel similar is that when you

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Speaker 7: put two teams on the field, the coaches know each other,

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Speaker 7: players know each other, The talent level so high, a

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Speaker 7: lot of equals. It just comes down to which playmaker

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Speaker 7: is going to make a plays one o'clock on Sunday.

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