1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about Nick Castianos. We were 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, after his divorce from the Phillies, 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: the Padres landed him, and you put and you wrote 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: in your article the Padres were elated to land a 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: quote baller like Nick Castianos. What was your read on 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: this and him fitting into that clubhouse because as a 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: lot of people have talked about, you know, with personalities 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: like Manny Machado or Fernando Tatis, that seems like a 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: clubhouse he might fit into. 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, he and Manny grew up together. 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: I mean since you know, nine years old, played against 12 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 2: each other, you tournaments and everything else, so they know 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: each other well, you know, being born and raised in Miami. Hey, 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: you know the A. J. Peller did a lot of 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: a research. He talked to coaches who had him, players 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: that played with them and saying, you know what, perfect 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: you know, you get a freebie like many Manchatto said, 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: you know, pennies on the dollar, so it's a no risk. Then, 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: you know, they didn't know about the beer incident, but 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: you know, like Eric and Aj said, you know, no 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: big deal. I remember back in the day come the Royals. 22 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: The guy was pitching no hitter, and he cracked open 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: a couple of beers on the bench. He's not that 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: big a deal, so I think they thought things got 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: way overblown in Philadelphia. This just gives him a fresh start. 26 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: He's excited, and it's definitely first base because this team's configuration, 27 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: he's not he's not playing right field. He's definitely not 28 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: getting in even the fourth outfielder. So first base is 29 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: a position that, like you said, it's not even really 30 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: if he doesn't do well, they can cut him and 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: it's they're not on the hook for anything. 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: Right. But in ty France this morning, Uh so I 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: think they're you're planning to play him on your left field. 34 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna see a lot. 35 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 4: Of d H. 36 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: So I agree. I mean, uh, Tatis, you know, plays 37 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: plays a lot. So it's not like he's going to 38 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: be needing right field. You know, maybe once every few 39 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: weeks something like that. But I think the big thing 40 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: would be more DH than anything else. 41 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 5: That makes sense, Bob. On this team, they need a 42 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 5: first basement, right, they need a first basement. The outfield 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 5: stack DH can be covered with sheets or whoever they 44 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 5: want to use it for. I like this move for 45 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 5: the Padres. It's a no lose situation. If he stinks 46 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 5: they're like eh, you can always release them and have 47 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 5: them move on and try something else. 48 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: Right. 49 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 5: So I mean, listen, I know this as somebody that's 50 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 5: had things said about me in the past. When you 51 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 5: go to a new team, you go and you say, Okay, 52 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 5: what did people say about me? 53 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 6: Okay, well maybe. 54 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 5: This is whatever, And you look yourself in the mirror 55 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 5: and say, maybe this is true, maybe it's not. But 56 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 5: then you go and at least for one year that 57 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 5: Castian is gonna be on his best behavior. I would think, 58 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 5: not that he's a bad guy anyways. He just says 59 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 5: what he means. He's honest with people, and people don't 60 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 5: like honesty. Bob, trust me, I know that right. He's honest. 61 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 5: He tells people where they stand, he tells people what 62 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 5: they think. And everybody in today's game world, however you 63 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 5: want to put it, wants to be told you're the best, 64 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: you're the best. Nobody wants to hear that, hey, you 65 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 5: know what, you're not very. 66 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 6: Good at that. Work on it. And so I like this. 67 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 5: I think it stirs up the clubhouse a little bit, 68 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 5: especially if Manny's on board, because one of the things 69 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 5: that you know, and I know from being around San 70 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 5: Diego a little bit, is you need Manny on board 71 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 5: to make things work with the Padres. 72 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's certainly his clubhouse. You know, he's got me 73 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: on bored. You know, we all know about the Soto 74 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: things with him and Manning and to tease that sort 75 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: of thing. But yeah, I think Manning's excited to he's 76 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: excited and uh, you know, look we didn't hear an 77 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: these things going on in Philadelphia. Have things with that 78 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: bad and with the Phillies they could trade him or 79 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: release them during the season, so you know, things kind 80 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: of got blown up. I think, you know, big time 81 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: once he left. I mean, how many times we hear 82 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: that when when players leave and managers get fired, we 83 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: hear things. You know, it should have been said at 84 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: the time, you know, not now when he's gone. 85 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: One of the things people need to understand is then 86 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: Nick got to choose this. Nick didn't get placed on 87 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: the Padres or the Padres didn't offer more money. I 88 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: think people really understand that part of it was this 89 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: Nick's best option of a team that was good. Have 90 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: you heard or talk to Nick or talk to anybody else, 91 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: and the other options that he had. 92 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: He said he talked to a couple of other teams there. 93 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: I can't say what it was, but I think that 94 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: Pottery's was so aggressive. I an Aj Probler yesterday said 95 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: that he was talking with Dave Dobrowski and says November 96 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 2: just never lined up on a trade. And I think 97 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: the thing was, I'm sure he thought, you know what, 98 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: we know he's not going back to Philadelphia. Well, summone 99 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: trade for him. We're gonna gamble that gets released, got released, 100 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: and eight pounced on it. You know, he was released 101 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: on Thursday. They were in a conference call, you know, 102 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: Friday morning, and then you know, boom playing right out 103 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: uh to Arizona. So I think it, you know, I 104 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: think it was a natural fit. You know, probably from 105 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: last month or two. 106 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: All right, Bob, when you first joined, we were going 107 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: to ask you about Zach Gallen and then we. 108 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 2: Couldn't hear you. 109 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: So we'll ask you again about Zach Gallen. You know, 110 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: every off season we talked about this. At least one 111 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: free agent who rejects a qualifying offer can can get a. 112 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: Little bit burned. But what did you make of Zach. 113 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: Gallen returning to the Diamondbacks. You know, AJ and Eric 114 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: talked a lot about how it's a comfortable place for 115 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: him to be. He knows the staff, everybody knows him. 116 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: It's easier to make adjustments there. What's your take on 117 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: that situation? 118 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, agree, she was the only one person against burn 119 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: every year, and he's he was a guy, uh you 120 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: know in Arizona. Finally say you know what, here's the deadline. Well, 121 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: we want you to sign by the weekend or forget 122 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: about it. We're not you know, we're extending money for you. So, 123 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: you know, fourteen million dollars was deferred. Obviously, would have 124 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: been better off just taking the uh, you know, the 125 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: qualifying offer from the get go. He thought he'd get 126 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: a you know, long term contract. You know, so did 127 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: the agent, Scott Borris. You know, I did too, and uh, 128 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: you know, some teams came, you know, kind of low 129 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: ball and multi year offers, but not at twenty two 130 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: a year. So you better himself, you know. He said, 131 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to hit the market again. 132 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: And I agree with the agent. He said, I think 133 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: he's gonna have a monster year, and I think he's 134 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: going to have a big time chip on his shoulder 135 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: and said, hey, you could have me, you could have me, 136 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: let me show what you're missing out on. Uh. You know, 137 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: he's a Philadelphia area and kid, and he pitches his 138 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: best when he's facing the big boys like the Yankees 139 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: and Mets things like that. So I think he's going 140 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: to have a spectacular here. 141 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 3: He was on our show and he actually had on 142 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: his phone a list of teams that he had a 143 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 3: little bit of a chip on his shoulder about. I 144 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: think that list probably has gone to about twenty eight. 145 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: I don't think he's mad at the Rockies that. I 146 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: think he's fine with how whatever happened with the Rockies? 147 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 6: Is this? 148 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: Is this because there's always one there's always one person 149 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: each year? Is this enough to get rid of the 150 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: qualifying offer because there's somebody like this? I get it 151 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,119 Speaker 3: more than one could have this happen to him. But really, 152 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: I mean, Zach Allen's the one unfortunate. But do they 153 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 3: change entire qualifying offer because one of fifteen or fourteen 154 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 3: to seventeen guys however many got them each year, get 155 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 3: screwed because of the qualifying offer. 156 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: I think it's going to go away. Remember now, in 157 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: the last cbamus League Baseball said we'll get with the 158 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: qualifying offer if we can have an international draft, and 159 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: that was debated back and forth with the Union and 160 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: everything else, and the side the international draft was more important. 161 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: Several agents were upsets. Oh my god, it's going to 162 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: hurt free agency. 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Please support our show and tell 193 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 7: them Foul Territory sent you. 194 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 5: Bob mentioned that in the last CBA it was discussed, 195 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 5: and I remember they changed some of the things about 196 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 5: you can't get more than one, and if you're traded, 197 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 5: you can't have a qualifying offer, and there was a 198 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 5: lot of things that they kind of made tweaks to 199 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 5: in the last CBA. Well, the CBA, as we all know, 200 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 5: is up in December. What is something that the owners 201 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 5: would need to get that power back to. I mean, 202 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 5: I know the World Draft, but I just don't know 203 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 5: that that's ever going to be a thing because of 204 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 5: the way the Latin American countries are scouted and guys 205 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 5: are signed Japanese guys. But is there something else the 206 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 5: players could say, Hey, we hate this qualifying offer, we'll 207 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 5: give you besides a salary cap obviously. 208 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I think international draft that won't is that 209 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: big to players. I mean, you know, we know a 210 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 2: lot of players that get upset when setting guys over 211 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: from you know, Cuba and different things like that and 212 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 2: don't work out, and things like, hey, if you were 213 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: born to raise this country, you know you're going to 214 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 2: get a maximum signing bonus and a draft where if 215 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: you come from a foreign country there's no limit when 216 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: they give you. So I think they'll give that up. 217 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: They really do, and I think that's all it takes. 218 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: I don't think that's that big of a give for 219 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: the Players Association to say, Okay, you can have international draft. 220 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 2: We don't want that qualifying offer. We don't want restrictions 221 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: on free agency ever. Again, I think just too big 222 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: of a burden. And I think of all the guys 223 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: who you know, and the qualifying offer attached to him, 224 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: I think it definitely hurt Gallon by far the most, 225 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: and nobody else that really came up, but with him, 226 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: that's all you're heard from everybody was I don't want 227 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: to give up those raph picks. 228 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 3: I want to circle back to the Padres real quick 229 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: and hit aj Preller aj Prellys comments from you know, 230 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: from Manny Machado about a J Pereller. Nobody can deny 231 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: that a J Peller wants to win. Is this season 232 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 3: or the coming seasons of the extension and everything all 233 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: that stuff for him happens. Is this his fault if 234 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: they lose ultimately some players, but is it his fault 235 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: if they win? Also because of what's been written about 236 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: him about how he butts heads, He's been through a 237 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 3: lot of managers and they haven't gotten to the place 238 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: where this roster should be, which is a world series. 239 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not too many gms. I'm not sure 240 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 2: I can think of when that survived that many manager changes. Well, 241 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: I think he's fourth or fifth manager. That usually doesn't happen. 242 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: Usually get two and that's it. They've been knocking the door. Obviously, 243 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: they sell out most of the games, so financially they're doing 244 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: well at the gate. You know, it's not his fault. 245 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: The TV money kind of went away in San Diego. 246 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: They should have knocked off the Dodgers two years ago, 247 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: up two games a one in the best of five series. 248 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: Dodgers in a bullfing game, no Freddie Freeman and blow 249 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: him out. And then of course one game five, two zero, 250 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: even though you darbage pitch so well. So they're knocking 251 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: the door. They're in the playoffs. They spend a lot 252 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: of money. I mean when Peter Salder was alive, it 253 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: was almost like the George Darmer days. Get whoever you want. 254 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 2: I mean, the only reason they got Xander Bogart so 255 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: he got two hundred million dollars is good. They were 256 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: offering over three hundred and fifty million dollars for Trade Turner, 257 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 2: and they were going to go over four hundred million 258 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: even more for Aaron Judge, but he want to go 259 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: back to the Yankees. So they spend amount of money. 260 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: You know, now they're kind of, you know, up against it. 261 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: So I think a year from now will be very 262 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: be fascinating to see what big contract has to go. 263 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: And the one guy here he talks about Strtis because 264 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: his contract is certainly tradable. 265 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: All right, bob Let's transition to the Twins a little bit. 266 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: We've heard a lot about this Byron Buxton thing, how 267 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: he was upset, you know, with the Twins for basically 268 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: not declaring their loyalty to him, because he felt that 269 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: he did that for them, you know, when he told 270 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: the media in the off season and during the season 271 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 1: last year that he wasn't going anywhere. He was a 272 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: little upset that the Twins didn't come out and say, yeah, 273 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: we want him to stay here, like blatantly. Right, They 274 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: said that they were hoping he would. But in my mind, 275 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, isn't that understandable that the Twins didn't come 276 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: out and say that, because you know, everybody is on 277 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: the table and they'll listen to offers from other teams. 278 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: What was your take on that? 279 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, nowadays it seems like, you know, players 280 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: are more sensitive to that sort of thing. I mean, 281 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: they had apologized to get tell Martine Arizona for listening 282 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: to offers. But Buckston had a you know, no trade class. 283 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: He was just upset to the Twins and say, hey, 284 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: you know we're not moving you under any reason. Uh, 285 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: no circumstance will change that. So he was upset by that. 286 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: And there were teams that were telling him, hey, hey, 287 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: waiter trade class to Dodgers waider trade class. Here, we'll 288 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: take you in a hurry. But those Minnesota you should 289 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: you should get rewarded for that. But I remember when 290 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 2: Kevin Towers was a GM, the San Diego potter Is, 291 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: and he would tell teams, hey, you want to make 292 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: an offer for Tony Gwym, You want to make an 293 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: offer for Trevor Hoffin, go ahead. You know, I don't 294 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: think there's any way up. We'll move them. But sudden 295 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: blows away, well sure, think about it. So a lot 296 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: of jams will say, you know what, we'll listen to everybody. 297 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: And maybe that's what the Twins were thinking too. Okay, 298 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: if somebody blows his away from Buckston, let's see if 299 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: he wants to leave. 300 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 5: But Bob, why does it matter. He's Byron bucks He 301 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 5: has a no trade clause. Who cares if they say 302 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 5: they're like get like, I don't understand why we're mad. 303 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 5: Like Byron Buckson is a great player, but why are 304 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 5: we you have a full no trade. Guess what, Byron? 305 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 5: If you don't ever wave it, you're a twin for life. 306 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 5: So why does the team have to come out and 307 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 5: say we're not gonna trade him before they even trade you. 308 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 5: They'll have to do what they had to do to 309 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 5: Nolan Arnado. Hey, Nolan, will you go here? 310 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 6: No? I don't want to go there? Okay, will you 311 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 6: go here? 312 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: No? 313 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 6: I don't. I'm gonna stay here in Minnesota. 314 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 5: And he has that right until the end of time 315 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 5: unless they release him and eat the money, which the 316 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 5: way the Twins are going, they need to save every penny, Bob, 317 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 5: So tell your son not to like get a pretzel 318 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 5: at the concession stand or anything, because they might charge 319 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 5: him double. Okay, but you see what I'm saying, Like 320 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 5: he has the like I don't understand why this is 321 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 5: a thing, Like, oh, they didn't say to me that 322 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 5: I'm not getting traded Byen you have the power you 323 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 5: don't have. 324 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 6: You'll never be traded if you don't want to be traded. 325 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 5: You can sit right there in Minnesota, fish out on 326 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 5: Minnetonka right, go to Maynards, go to wherever you want 327 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 5: in Minneapolis and have a great time, and you can 328 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 5: be a twin for life. 329 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 6: Buddy. 330 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: I think players now just want that kind of support. 331 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: They want the Twins, like you said, even though he 332 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: has a bower. They want the Twins to come out 333 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: and say, oh, there's no way in the world will 334 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: ever trade you. We love you. Then you just players 335 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: like you want that. I look at Philadelphia, you know, 336 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: when Date Dobrowski, you know, talked about Bryce Harper helpfully 337 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: become an elite player again. I think it was a 338 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: big deal. Sort of that kind of stuff went on forever, 339 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: but obviously it bothered Harper and he still talked about 340 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: it extensively yesterday. So I just think it's a different, 341 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: you know, time and life for players. You know, so 342 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: a lot different from when you know you played AJ 343 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: and Eric too, nobody worried about those things, but now 344 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: I think just everybody's very sensitive. 345 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: Let's take both of those stories, and I want your 346 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: resolution of both of those stories. Buxton saying what he said, 347 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 3: and I agree with AJ. It's kind of like whatever, 348 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: like it's totally fine, you have all the power. And 349 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: Bryce Harper being called not elite? Is this the first 350 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: stepping stone to maybe a time when Byron Buxton changes 351 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: his mind and says, you know what, I'll play after 352 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: this season he has two more years, I'll go play 353 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: somewhere that wants to win. And is there something that 354 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: could possibly come of the Bryce Harper you know rift 355 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 3: or tiff that's going on? 356 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know Harper still remember you want 357 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: extension years ago and they said, come on, you said 358 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: that contract, you didn't want the opt out clause, so 359 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: nothing really came about it. I still don't think Harper 360 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: leaving there. I still think he's the you know, face 361 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: of the franchise obviously, you know, with Kyle Schwarber so 362 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: beloved there, and I think he likes playing Philadelphia too. 363 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: He loves that intensity. Nember when both of them were 364 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: free agent, it's called Harper Machado. I think worked out perfectly. 365 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: I think Harper would have been bored on his mind and 366 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: seeing Diego, and I'm not sure Manchada would have loved 367 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: playing in Philadelphia. So worked out great. Busting in our hand, 368 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 2: you know, all you got to do is look at 369 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: both you know Texas and met straight Brandon Nemo had 370 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: a no trade class too. Obviously something sent him off 371 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: where he say, you know what, I want to go. 372 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: Samon didn't have no trade cost those two places, but 373 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: he was probably willing to go to New York. So 374 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: it could be a case here too where if he's 375 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: a little discreunted, he can say, you know what, I'm 376 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 2: from Atlanta. If Atlanta wants me, I love, I love 377 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: to go there. You know, keep it quiet, but that 378 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 2: we leave. I mean colech Gray had no trade class too. 379 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: It wasn't until Houston came out and say wait a minute, now, uh, 380 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: you know what's going to happen here he was even 381 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 2: thinking about leaving at all. And when they present it 382 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: to him, he jumped at the opportunity. 383 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: All right, Bob, let's talk about where you're at right now. 384 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: You're obviously at the Angels camp. And we've heard a 385 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: lot about Mike Trout in the news a lot recently, 386 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: whether it's talking about center Field, whether it's talking about 387 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: the WBC. What's the latest with Mike Trout that you're 388 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: hearing from Angels Camp. 389 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: Well, he met with the Perrymanesium in the GM and 390 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 2: also with the versus Zuk and the new manager, and said, 391 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: I want to go back to centerfield, and they said, okay, 392 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: let's work that out. So he plans to play center 393 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: field now for four or five days a week. He 394 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: was bored as a DH. They said he was taking 395 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: thousands of swings during the game. He hated being in 396 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: DH and he had the worst year of his career. 397 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: His best year was twenty twenty two when he played 398 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: centerfield for about her and twenty games. So did that's 399 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 2: try it? He feels healthy, so he's going to be 400 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: back in center field WBC. He says he badly wanted 401 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: to do it, but the insurance was a hang up. 402 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: He's very disappointed. He loved being there in twenty twenty three. 403 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: He kind of feels takes pride that so many guys 404 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: want to do it now because they had so much 405 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: fun in twenty twenty three. But you know, insurance reasons. 406 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: Insurance reasons stopped it, and he wasn't going to be 407 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: you know, the every day you know outfield anyway with 408 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: that as loaded as that team is. But he's certainly 409 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: wanted to be. 410 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 5: On it, Bob, How could can the Angels be? I mean, 411 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 5: they're they're they're kind of in a tough spot right 412 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 5: with the Astros, the Mariners, the Rangers are supposed to 413 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 5: be should be better this year. 414 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 6: What what? 415 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 5: What can the Angels be in this division? I know 416 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 5: they've tried to make some move, some of their young 417 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 5: guys have gotten to take another year, another step, But 418 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 5: can the Angels actually compete this year in that Al 419 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 5: West which is getting has been good and continues to 420 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 5: get better. 421 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: I think it moved closer to five hundred. I don't 422 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: think they can contempt a division. They're still parrolls still 423 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: pretty low. You know, they got Rhythm and Dome contract, 424 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 2: but it's not like they spent that money. You know, 425 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 2: Redomet contract has now deferred. But I think their pared 426 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: roll is only about one hundred forty eight million dollars, 427 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: so well before the luxury tax threshold. So I just 428 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: don't think they want to spend money yet because you 429 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: don't think they're ready to contend. So I think they're 430 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 2: making some slow progress things like that, but I just 431 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 2: can't see them being a true contender, and you know, 432 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 2: and challenging Seattle marriage or Houston Astros, or even Texas 433 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: for that matter. 434 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: All right, take a look at the bet MGM futures 435 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: al Manager of the Year odds. 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All right, guys, 445 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: give me your take on the Manager of the Year odds. 446 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: You got Dan Wilson, John Schneider, Stephen Ute, Craig Albernas. 447 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: What do you think aj? 448 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 6: Where's Will Venable on that list? 449 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 5: Kevin Cash, Patricia But I think Albernas to me is 450 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 5: the one on this list. It makes sense just because 451 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 5: he's going to a team that's supposed to be super talented, 452 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 5: right they've kind of underachieved last year. If he gets 453 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 5: them to the postseason, he'll get some votes. Hinch is 454 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 5: supposed to win votes won two years in a row. 455 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 5: They're not going to give him the repeat. I don't 456 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 5: think Dan Wilson, John Schneider. They both have good teams, 457 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 5: so they're expected to win. I think Albernas on this 458 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 5: list is the one that really stands out at plus seven. 459 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: Hundred yep one hundred percent and I was boring, but 460 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 3: that's the one voter's not gonna win three years in 461 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: a row, whether they do good or not. I think 462 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 3: Craig Albernas has a playoff team. If he gets him there, 463 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 3: the voters will vote for him. 464 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 5: Isn't ironic that they're together, they're the same odds and 465 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 5: they're like best of friends. 466 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 6: Isn't that funny? It's funny. I think they have a 467 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 6: side at where they're like who wins me or you